Subject: SLID feedback
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 17:06:03 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
This is after just a quick glance at your proposal and without knowing many of the details.
I don't quite understand how you will have the proposed $25-$30 billion in 6 months by levering the countries resources. 6 months is a really short time for such a sizable amount of money. Are you saying you'll be able to have these monies in hand within 6 months?
You all talked about doing this without donor funds. I don't know if this is really necessary. I have often wondered about the corporate citizenry of these big companies overseas. In the states they all have a corporate giving wing of their organizations, are they really taken to task and required to be good corporate citizens in Africa. You are going to need a trained workforce so this would be one way this could be paid for; through corporate sponsorship. I don't think this will foster dependence and these companies should be giving back on a larger scale.
You talked about education for all, I read recently there is a shortage of teachers. How will this plan address this?
With farming, how will you address the need for proper training and farming technology and what is the plan for modernized farm equipment. What's the plan to move from subsistence farming to feeding the country and ending the dependence on food imports and moving to food exports.
Does SL have sufficient control over its natural resources? If not, what is the plan to do so?
How will SL begin to mine its own natural resources?
Whats the plan for trade and marketing these resources?
Are there binding contract with companies that would make taking control over these resources impossible right now?
One caution I see with this plan is the case of Mozambique. When they took control of their diamonds, they were shut out of the diamond market. The big diamond companies wanted them to play the game their way or not at all. Maybe someone on the forum is familiar with this.
Salone has the potential for becoming a model state with the proper use of resources and the will of the people. The size of the country makes this a managable task. With conflict in the past and the newly democratically elected president, this makes Sierra Leone attractive to investors as long as peace is in place. Transparency and accountability are such buzz words right now so this administration really has to be on top of things down to the number of paper clips on their desks.
Subject: Re: SLID feedback
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 17:21:44 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
ERICA,
PLEASE ADD YOUR IMPUT TO THESE GUYS HAVE PROPOSED. BETTER STILL IF YOU HAVE YOUR OWN PLAN, PRESENT IT. IF YOU HAVE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS, STATE THEM.
WE SHOULD AVOID THE NAGATIVISM. THESE 2 GUYS HAVE DONE WHAT THEY CAN. CAN YOU PLEASE ADD TO THAT OR QUIT BEING NEGATIVE?????
Subject: Re: SLID feedback
From: Bright Piece of Illiterate Nonsense
To: All
Date Posted: 18:07:53 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Mr. Fofana,
Erica Adam's questions/comments were very thought-provoking and reasonable, as even "A-1" proposals/plans do have flaws and shortcomings. I see her questions as an attempt to initiate the post-proposal dialogue that very often fleshes out the practical implications that may not have been foreseen by its initiators. If anything, her questions/comments have contributed more to the original proposal than your otherwise gallant attempt to dismiss her.
Subject: Re: SLID feedback
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 17:27:07 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
I'm not being negative. You can't see the post now and it's not archived yet, but yesterday someone asked me specifically for my input. I didn't take my time looking through this manifesto just to be critical. I posed the questions because just by looking at the document I didn't know the answers.
Subject: MBALU: ARE YOU A LEIBIAN?? COME OUT SISTER!
From: Ttatalya.
To: All
Date Posted: 15:04:57 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
MBALU I AM SERIOUS. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, ONECE AGAIN I AM ASKING YOU. ARE A LESBIAN???? ONE DAY, YOU WILL COME OUT OF THE CLOSET AND TELL US THAT YOU ARE ONE. WHY? YOUR REASON WILL BE; "WELL MEN ALWAYS DUMPED ME BECAUSE OF MY LACK OF SEXUAL PLEASURE DUE TO FGM.
WE NEED TO KNOW NOW PROFESSOR!!
Subject: Re: MBALU: ARE YOU A LEIBIAN?? COME OUT SISTER!
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 15:14:37 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Guys lets leave Mbalu alone. She is fighting for a cause and we hard her loud and clear. So what if she is a Lesbian? After all, all Harford school girls are lesbians. Just that they called it fejeh. So she will not be the first.
Insane I am.
Subject: For Togondoe on FGM Vs. FGC VS FGP, wow!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:05:31 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Toe,
First of all, I wish to acknowledge that I have followed your postings on this forum, your articles to Cocorioko's main page and I read your own website and I must say that I admire your courage and sense of responsibility. I am not here to praise you, but you are one guy I admire and I look forward to meeting you soon. I always visit New brunswick area and will find a slick way to meet you. Thanks for your good work.
To respond to your posting on FGM vs FGC (female Genital Circumcision) Vs FGP (Female Genital Piercing), I must first agree with you. Maybe switching the name to Female Genital Circumcision or simply Female Circumcision will be more civil and kind of a more toned-down language. I agree, but I did not coin that phrase.
You want to know my take on FGC vs. FGP. Toe, I am surprised that as intelligent as you are you get two things that have no connection confused. What are you talking about? Some adult decideds to place a tatoo on their body, or hang a ring from their ear, or use contact lenses when they medically donot need them or Pierce their clitoris and hand a ring from it and you compare that with female circumcision. FGP is an adult's decision. It is not a culture, no body forces them to do that. Go to S/L today and I bet our sisters are doing the same just as they have picked up tatooing especially their lower backs so that you JCs can have a nice sight during your "butu motion" connection - sorry, I just want to be funny:). So please donot compare apples and oranges.
As far as branding me as a westernized sycophant, brother you got that one wrong too. Why are you calling me names because I choose to fight against an outdated and barbaric tradition. I said this before and I am going to say it again. I donot give a hoot about any western people and what they have to say about our traditions. I am picking a fight against something I personally experienced and you accuse me of selling out. That is one reason why when I go to Freetown to continue this fight, I am going to spend my own hard-earned dollars. I could hook up with people I know within certain circles here in the U.S. and raise quick funds, but guess what? I am not doing it for money. I donot want my daughter or younger S/Leonean sisters to suffer from low sex drive and possiblly contract diseases from non-sterile instruments used to cut off their precious clitoris.
You also mention that if FGM is cried down,then medicine should equally be cried down due to medical malpractices. That is another area wherein you really surprised me. Your thinking process during the time you wrote your piece must be really fuzzy to compare the two. A medical malpractice is often times a pure accident and the overall benefit we get from medicine outweighs the few problems associated with it. Common man, be real.
Last but not least, you mentioned that non-FGM females have more hygiene problem and are more prone to contracting AIDS. Not to insult you, but that is a silly and an uneducated pronouncement. Absolute garbage. Look here, if a female does not wash that thing (FGM or NOT) it STINKS BAD BAD. If a female washes up everytime they go to the bathroom, like our people back home, then that thing will ABSOLUTELY smell like a FRUIT BASKET. And even you Toe can go down without hesitation (I mean lick, suck or eat the pussy, whatever!). As far as getting AIDS is concerned, I am not gonna comment. Only a fool will think that AIDS will discriminate against non-FGM females. Those of us who studied science at secondary school level in S/L know better.
I love you Toegondoe, have a great weekend. How is Charles Margai doing anyway?
Subject: Re: For Togondoe on FGM Vs. FGC VS FGP, wow!
From: Researcher
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:06 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
How about using the word colorize for a change? Or clitorisation?
Subject: Re: For Togondoe on FGM Vs. FGC VS FGP, wow!
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:51:16 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
DECLITORISATION can supercede FGM much better.
Subject: Re: For Togondoe on FGM Vs. FGC VS FGP, wow!
From: Researcher
To: All
Date Posted: 14:57:30 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
Oh I see.
Subject: Re: For Togondoe on FGM Vs. FGC VS FGP, wow!
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:31:36 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
Hey! You know what, now that Ramadan is over I am making the same proposal I made few months back and that is about wanting to take your hand in marriage. If you think I am too ugly and not educated enough to be your husband or you are too beautiful enough to be my wife,just a trial will convince you that you are wrong big time. ORYANDO EEYAYMA KOR BOATAMU EH KALA.ee YAYMA NANTHA MU MBORH.WOASANEMI LEMP LEMP!
Now that your stand in FGM is clear and rigid, what is your take on gays and lesbians?
Subject: Re: For Togondoe on FGM Vs. FGC VS FGP, wow!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 15:54:19 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Not my area of interest. You can take on the gays and lesbians all you want.
Subject: ENOUGH OF THIS NONSENSE ... WE HEAR YOU
From: TAKE THIS RESEARCH ELSEWHERE
To: All
Date Posted: 14:17:19 10/19/07 ()
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Subject: Palo Conteh
From: Ayodele
To: All
Date Posted: 13:29:46 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: dele25@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-70-17-81-246.res.east.verizon.net at 70.17.81.246
Message:
The negative articles on Palo Conteh's trip to the United States illustrates why Sierra Leoneans from the Diaspora are reluctant to go home and serve their county. Since 1990 Palo Conteh has travelled to the United States over 20( Twenty) times from the United Kingdom where lives, to see his extensive family and friends who are in the US. He only becomes Defence Minister after been confirmed by Parliament and takes the Oath of Office. We love and respect Palo for his discipline and commitment to Sierra Leone and we wish him well and hope President Koroma's inspired choice
will soon be appreciated by Sierra Leoneans.
Subject: Why are we so backward?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 13:17:32 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I love Salone but we must admit to ourselves that we have a negative, backward culture that is holding us back. This has nothing to do with being "dazzled and blinded" by Western culture, or an inferiority complex.
Any country that permits the slicing of the clitora of its womenfolk (Bondo), allows the brutalization, incuding the mutilation of the backs of boys (Poro), and the rampant dehumanization in other societies like Wondeh, Gbangbani, Ojeh and others... needs a serious reality check.
Most of these secret societies have zero cultural value right now. They have been hijacked by politicians and mainly used, as opposed to the past, to intimidate opponents and "strangers". Unless we reevaluate our priorities, our vaunted culture that we are so jingoistic about, will continue to hold us back. And there is nothing a political party can do about it!
Subject: Re: Why are we so backward?
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 13:51:03 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
We you see Limba man look and call e pikin MANDAY nor to for natin bra. You nor talk but creole man & wate man lodge oh. May be na wa a crase
Subject: Re: Why are we so backward?
From: Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 13:59:01 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Secret societies are all a bunch rubbish. Where were they when Foday Sankoh was on the rampage with his
following of crazed child soldiers?
Subject: Abarakasefa, abarakafa - hand go- hand cam
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:58:49 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
A mandingo or susu phrase, i dont know if i pronounced fine..
Give a helping hand today..
Lets leave the sweah talk, and belittling comments for satuday..
Tiday nah Friday...
If mosque nor dey near you...
Pull sara here..
If even you gave some at the mosque or church.
Skip 1 beer tonight..
Or 1 less hamburger this week.
5 bucks..
We are trying to raise a 1000 to send to this poor poor lady.
Subject: Re: Abarakasefa, abarakafa - hand go- hand cam
From: Four Foot Arata
To: All
Date Posted: 13:30:43 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bra Candid - Wey you de geda people dem money so – how we go get for know say the money done reach de pikin.
Ar trust you, but me pardi dem de laugh me say – na money way are done donate nor get for reach na pikin, na for natin I donate.
Please prove them wrong, and tell me and other skeptics on this forum how we will all know that the total of “X” dollars came from VSL or Candid Opinion to Pikin Business.
By the way - I sabi Ardonis O!
Subject: Re: Abarakasefa, abarakafa - hand go- hand cam
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:54:26 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Well if you di donate, great.. if not.. dont waste my time..
This amount of effort, while at work.. risking my job, been online almost 8 hours a day apst 3 days..
For you 20 dollars.. or 50.. or hundred..
You think ah idle.. or ah nor get pikin dem for feed..
Fityeye...
YOur concience is all that matters..
If you did give without hesitation.or pressure.. and with a heart heavy seeing another human down.. and dont want to just pass by without asking, can i help..
No need for ask...You have done your part..blessings are already credited to your account..
VSL is handling this.. and trust me.. we oba dey solid..
Sorry if i sound a bit harsh..dont want anyone else to joke this kind joke.. pan fityeye..
Subject: Re: Abarakasefa, abarakafa - hand go- hand cam
From: PLEASE!
To: All
Date Posted: 14:12:57 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Maybe let me say it in English - I have already donated, and because of that I believe my question was a legitimate one. I gave with all my heart and God’s know, so please separate my giving from the question that I asked. My question is one of accountability because YES! I would like to know whether my donation is used for the intended purpose. People give to charities like United Way, etc. and they ask questions, so was it wrong for me to ask? Besides, I do not know the folks at VSL – the only reason I donate THROUGH them was because of you, and see how you are addressing my question.
Me man – why do we do such to one another. I trusted you instructions and give without any reservations, but know that I ask questions you get offended. Please!
Subject: Re: Abarakasefa, abarakafa - hand go- hand cam
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 14:24:19 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Sorry.. sorry..sorry..
I did not mean it to sound like it came across..
I am nor offended, not at all..
I did thank you for donating.
Well if you di donate, great.. if not.. dont waste my time.. ---candidO
When i saw the 2 foot arata handle it seemed like a joke and i subconciously became defensive.
My question is one of accountability because YES! I would like to know whether my donation is used for the intended purpose. People give to charities like United Way, etc. and they ask questions, so was it wrong for me to ask? Besides, I do not know the folks at VSL – the only reason I donate THROUGH them was because of you, and see how you are addressing my question. ---(Dont even know what to call you)
Thanks for the trust..
VSL is our own baby, and the same trust you extended to me, please extent tru me to VSL...thats all i can ask...
We have a member goign to salone next couple of days.
They will hand over the money to Adonis Abboud (I hear he is in the UK) as soon as possible, and have a receipt posted on VSL.
God Bless..
Sorry again.. your handle, and the tone of your last post prompted the last responds..
Subject: Re: Abarakasefa, abarakafa - hand go- hand cam
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 14:35:06 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Send me your 501(C)(3) number so I can claim my donation come tax time.
Thanks
Subject: Re: Abarakasefa, abarakafa - hand go- hand cam
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:38 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
You are not donation to me, I do not have a number..
There will be no claiming on this side of the realm sadam.. Your claim will be made one you meet god..
This nah Charity, noto ossusu..
Okay, i had to joke a bit..
But this is all for give sake.. nothing to claim..
Charity is channeled tru pikin bizness and i doubt if they know what a 501(C) is, of that applies to salone charities.
Read about our effort here.
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&FID=10&PR=3&PN=1
We are just championing this..to give the boy and mother a day or 2 of smiles..maybe a toy.. maybe warm cloths.. anything.. We just believe she must have been tru hell past year..
Subject: Apology Accepted
From: Palva Don
To: All
Date Posted: 14:28:24 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Subject: Factual Indicators
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 12:46:36 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
When APC came to power, the president rush to swear himself in the very same day he was elected. After that, the president went to work. on of the sudden, he called all the former ministers and told them to stay in their respective positions and they did. After that, he appointed few ministers, and then few more and that was it. Now all his doing is photo-up with Jack and Jill. We are now approaching the 100 days deadline and this is what he has accomplished so far:
1 Do nothing
2. Do nothing
3. Photo-up with chiefs
4. Photo-up with fulas
5. Photo-up with Liberian President
6. Gave the most demamding misistry to his girl friend. I mean energy and power ministry
7. Have started to monkey around with little kids
8. Photo-up with the power plant employees
9. Chastized Sam Sumana aka sleep head
10 Do nothing.
When is he ever going to gets of his behind and do something. I guess I am just insane to see all these things.
Subject: FOR ITK: Berewa: "We got the votes but lost the elections"
From: Correction
To: All
Date Posted: 12:29:47 10/19/07 ()
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Message:
ITK wrote: "There's no need for pointless sarcasm; this is a serious matter of national concern. The credibility of the NEC (and to some extent, the 2007 election)is at stake. You obviously do not recall that 2 Commissioners resigned over the handling of this matter-- on the grounds of what they deemed questionable conduct by the Commissioner."
ITK:
Sorry abut the late reply. I am afraid that what you consider "sarcasm" is anything but. It is an incontrovertible fact -- attested to by multiple credible sources in the international community and by the actions of the SLPP and its leader, Solomon Berewa -- that the SLPP and Mr. Berewa are foolish.
It is that fact which dooms your defense of them against charges that they were complicit in the "over-voting" and illegal obstruction of opposition candidates in the south-east of Salone during the last elections. As you would recall, that defense consisted of your opinion that the SLPP and Berewa did not attempt to rig the south-east polls because they would not be so foolish to do that in a SLPP stronghold. Your opinion is easily dismissed based on its demonstrably false assumption that both SLPP and Berewa are not foolish.
As regards your attempted justification of the violence perpetrated against opposition leaders, Koroma and Margai ("Koroma was warned not to go into those areas with Charles Margai-- someone the people considered Enemy Number 1 at the time. "), let me ask you a question: Since when did any citizen or group of citizens have the right to declare any public place in Salone out of bounds to another citizen of Salone?
Finally, I don't think you need worry about the credibility of the NEC -- certainly not at the behest of the SLPP regime. It seems to me that the SLPP's sudden apparent conversion to accountability should start with its leaders -- Kabbah and Berewa -- accounting to the people of SL for their devastation of the standard of living of millions of Sierra Leoneans during there regime, while they received over $2 billion ion foreign aid.
After -- but not before -- accounting fore their apparent malfeasance, the SLPP can then ask the NEC to account for the much more recent and relatively insignificant claims being bandied around desperately
by the shameless SLPP cabal.
______________________________________________________________________________________________
Posted by ITK on October 18, 2007 at 11:32:19:
In Reply to: Re: Berewa : "We got the votes but lost the elections" posted by Correction on October 17, 2007 at 22:06:21:
Correction:
There's no need for pointless sarcasm; this is a serious matter of national concern. The credibility of the NEC (and to some extent, the 2007 election)is at stake. You obviously do not recall that 2 Commissioners resigned over the handling of this matter-- on the grounds of what they deemed questionable conduct by the Commissioner.
To answer your question, this is what I am saying:
In its statement certifying the results, the NEC indicated that it had invalidated votes (something it did not relish doing) as it had determined that such action would not affect the outcome of the elections. While one can accept this at face value (as the SLPP did), given the NEC's reticence to disenfranchise voters-- as it in fact did, it ought to have provided concrete evidence to support its determination.
Additionally, the NEC indicated in its statement that it had "discovered" fraudulent result forms from polling station throughout the country, and subsequently "recovered" some of the true, original forms, the results of which were added to the presidential election tally. Something just does not go down well with this statement. There needs to be a full explanation as to how this occurred under the NEC's nose and watchful eyes.
Last, the NEC indicated that it would "continue to collaborate with the law enforcement agencies in the investigations of ALL ELECTORAL MALPRACTICES REPORTED" (emphasis mine). This is absolutetly essential, but more importantly, there must be a satisfactory rconclusion to such investigations.
BTW, (not that I condone the violence that was involved-- I don't), Koroma was warned not to go into those areas with Charles Margai-- someone the people considered Enemy Number 1 at the time. Very relaiable sources told me that the people had no problem with Koroma campaigning, provided he did not bring CM with him, as he planned to do. I don't blame them-- you just don't unilaterally pledge the support of voters to a party they historically detest. Especially when you make yourself out to be an agent of change, and succeed in attracting those voters away from their traditional party of affiliation. I trust that I do not need to further elaborate.
Subject: Re: FOR ITK: Berewa: "We got the votes but lost the elections"
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 15:19:29 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Correction:
No problem. I know folks have a life outside of Cocoriko.
As for your reply, you are merely shifting the goalposts (and obviously trying too hard to villify the SLPP).
Provide credible support for your statement that the SLPP "were complicit in the 'over-voting'", and you and I have no argument. Better yet, read the NEC statement with respect to its certification of the presidential election results. Tell me where exactly the SLPP's "complicity" is reflected.
With respect to the attack of the Koroma/Margai convoy, tell me what part of my statement you don't understand, and I can help you. Better yet, Read my lips: I did not then and do not now condone that act of violence, just as I did not condone the attacks on SLPP supporters during the election campaign, the violence perpetrated against SLPP Ministers (as well as their relatives)after the elections, nor the destruction of SLPP properties, as recent as last week.
Last, I suggest you take out your dictionary, review the meaning of the word "justify", and then re-visit my posting and yours. Thereafter, tell me where I attempted to justify any act of violence. Maybe you simply missed (or chose to ignore) it-- I specifically said that I don't condone whatever violence had occurred.
Subject: Re: FOR ITK: Berewa: "We got the votes but lost the elections"
From: Obai
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:57 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I agree with you. Anybody in Sierra Leone has the right to pledge support to any party he chooses. That should be justification by violent SLPPers to attack Charles Margai or Ernest Koroma. The SLPP must renounce violence once and for all if it wants to be taken seriously.
Subject: Re: FOR ITK: Berewa: "We got the votes but lost the elections"
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:25:28 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Obai. What is the justification of the latest and past violent attacks on the SLPP by the APC supporters.
Subject: Re: FOR ITK: Berewa: "We got the votes but lost the elections"
From: Obai
To: All
Date Posted: 13:08:25 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Oops, I meant top write, "That should NOT be justification by violent SLPPers to attack Charles Margai or Ernest Koroma."
Subject: Re: FOR ITK: Berewa: "We got the votes but lost the elections"
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 15:54:15 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Obai:
I absolutely agree with you-- one can support any party one wishes to support. But that is not what my posting referred to in passing. Rather, it alluded to the fact that lifelong supporters of the SLPP felt betrayed by Charles Margai's unilateral pledge of PMDC support to the APC candidate. Ordinarily, this would not be a big issue, except:
(1) CM had wooed these SLPP supporters with a message that suggested that he/PMDC would be agents of change-- one that positioned the party as a viable alternative to traditional SLPP supportyers in the Southeast, only to cast his lot with a party that most, if not all, of said supporters reject outright; and
(2) CM made the pledge, in the minds of many, unilaterally and in a cavalier manner (resulting, in fact, ina pr nightmare and resignation of a party official).
To spare me repeating myself, read my response to Correction regarding justification of the attack on CM and Koroma.
Subject: Re: Defence Minister and APC Victory dance in Washington DC
From: Jan
To: All
Date Posted: 10:05:04 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-111-132.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.111.132
Message:
Who is footing the bill for the defence minister's (Palor Conteh) trip? I suspect it will be the tax payer because Palor would not have contemplated such a trip from Sierra Leone had he not been a minister. If this trip is nothing but official then fine otherwise it will be construed as a misuse of power which could be a breach of his fiduciary duties at this early stage of his political career.
Subject: Re: Defence Minister and APC Victory dance in Washington DC
From: SHOOT UP
To: All
Date Posted: 10:53:21 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
Message:
Retired Major Parlor contemplated on this trip way before his appointment. Do you know that he has his son and fiancé here in the US? Major has been in the U.S on two separate occasions this year. Did you pay for his traveling expenses?
In fact, he not has officially took his appointment, how can the Government pay for his trip?
It is people like you who have not been back home for dooms years, writing all kinds of trash on the internet. Why don’t you do something productive for yourself and your country?
Do you know how much he had to endure since 1986.It takes a lot for him to even think of going back considering all the odds against him. His perseverance is a testimony that all our ex-military Power Brains Can come back and become positive part of our nation building effort.
As the next Defense Chief, our military Moral will rise from 0 TO 360 degrees. Take my word to the bank and stuff it up your …………………and shut up.
FOOL
Subject: Re: Defence Minister and APC Victory dance in Washington DC
From: Jan
To: All
Date Posted: 11:39:07 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-147-238-122.range86-147.btcentralplus.com at 86.147.238.122
Message:
I have made my points. Period!
Subject: Re: Defence Minister and APC Victory dance in Washington DC
From: Pointless
To: All
Date Posted: 12:04:19 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
The only [point you have made is that which marks you points as pointless.
Subject: Re: Defence Minister and APC Victory dance in Washington DC
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:18:05 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator6071.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.181.216
Message:
Buddy how many tax-payers do you have in Salone?
Subject: Bai Bureh - We dey take 5-10-20 anytin..
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 11:04:27 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Can you imagine the smile on this boys face..
Stop typing for a second.. and picture it...
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1226&cntnt01returnid=15
This face.. with a smile on it..
And at the bottom scrolling text..
This smile brought to you by Bai Bureh..
Watin beat that on a friday like this when we cant get to the mosque.
Please click here to donate.
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&PID=27487#27487
Subject: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:09:19 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Please pull sara..Its FRIDAY
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&PID=27487#27487
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&FID=10&PR=3
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 11:37:18 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: us_proxy_indy.xh1.lilly.com at 40.0.40.10
Message:
I do not want to sign-up on VSL, so what are my other options to donate.
Thanks!
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:12:50 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Shabba..
You shouldn't need a paypal account... but obviously they try to point you in the other direction. See where it says; Dont have a paypal account? click continue
Thanks man..
God Blell You and yours.
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:09:55 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: us_proxy_indy.xh1.lilly.com at 40.0.40.10
Message:
I donated - it's Girl by the way!
- SHABBA
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:13:54 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
My Bad...
Totally sorry..
Cheers and God Bless you
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 10:44:51 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
candido.. have been absent from the forum.. Anyways will be in freetown in two weeks... can i make my contribution in person?
If so how? Who will i make my contribution to?
Thanks BRO.
I am Alieu The Great.
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:57:38 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Alieu..
Thanks mate..
Please make the enquiry here..
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&FID=10&PR=3&PID=27537#27537
I believe you are not the only one with questions like these.
If you are not a member of the site..
Its only a minute to join.
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 11:34:23 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
just signedup.. I do have a paypal account, but OH yah man forget the password...will call them and se if they can get me into my account.
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: BUFORD HWY
To: All
Date Posted: 12:40:12 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-228-219-218.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.228.219.218
Message:
PAYPAL NO PAYPAL IF ME MONEY NOR REACH ME SICK BROTHER,AR SWEAR TO ME UNCLE EE BEAR BEAR ALIEU CUTAWAY SESAY GO GEE ME BACK ME MONEY,BECOS AR KNOW SAY ALIEU "CUTAWAY" SESAY GO TAKE WE MONEY FOR GO HELP EE SLPP LEADERSHIP CAMPAIGN.
Candido I know you slpp GUYS are quick to get your hands on someone's money,but please do not ALLOW ALIEU CUTAWAY close to PIKENBIZNESS money.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEEEE.
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 13:01:21 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Usai you bin hide?
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: BUFORD HWY
To: All
Date Posted: 14:42:07 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-71-204-124-192.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 71.204.124.192
Message:
WAITMAN WOK ACROSS DE BORDER.I am about to board a flight back to the ATL.WE HOOK UP WITH YOU LATER.
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:51:50 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
If you donated..
God bless you..
Insha allah leh allah double am gee you more.
Leh allahs hand always be in your back pocket.
If nah provoking..
Nor go outside when place dark en tendah crack..
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: BUFORD HWY
To: All
Date Posted: 15:00:29 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-71-204-124-192.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 71.204.124.192
Message:
"Leh allahs hand always be in your back pocket."
I prefer my FRONT POCKET,because you,ALIEU CUTAWAY and your SLPP KABODOHS will be seen coming if you try to PICK my POCKET.
"Nor go outside when place dark en tendah crack.."
BRA IF U SWEAR ME HOW U WAN FOR LEH AR GEE ME DINERO?
ANYWAY AR NOR WAN DAY TIFF DUCKS EGG DEM,SO AR NOR DAE FRAID.EN BESIDE NAR DEVIL HOLE AR MEM.
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 15:29:19 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Humour my friend makes the world bearable..
Its a hard neighborhood, ironic we live in the milky way.
Me nor see no gravy.. so so pain en yanga..
Please pass some of that dinero to the ones who are less fortunate..
Cheers for your charity.
This money nor dey go tru HQ oh..no green fingers gwan touch it..
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 13:30:19 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Thanks for the good work BRO
Subject: Re: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: Gonos
To: All
Date Posted: 10:25:07 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: Gonos@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-65-105-98.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.65.105.98
Message:
What????? Lord have mercy.........We need amoured jackets for some of these postings.....the bullets are flying everywhere.
Subject: While we have donated close to $1000 on VSL forum.
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:04:40 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Meanwhile..
Co co rio and co..
With all its alagba's.
Potential leaders, book worms.. potential 3 foot arata's..2 foot leppets, Ernest im borbor dem.. Ekutay cabal, SLPP top guns, cyber muskyats, Sylvia wannabe's..
YOu name it..
Bing bing.. sabi book.. ah get PHD.. ah get money pass you.. Me brother na minister..ah get busniess nah salone, mortgage BROKER (en en en BANKER), Lawyers, ECONOMISTS, ETC ETC ETC..
All heard and seen here...
I had almost thought this place had a fine crop of men..
But woyang...
Clitoris talk, politics, PHDowners, are the topics of the day..
Charity.... ????????
Nah lie.. Some man allergic to tha concept..
Please DONATE
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&PID=27487#27487
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&FID=10&PR=3
Or i am pointing fingers at you with single posts.
ONE at a TIME.
Noto all tem we for be donor recipients..
Subject: ALL SO-CALLED ANTI-FGM ACTIVISTS ARE BIG HYPOCRITES!
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:53:47 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator6071.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.181.216
Message:
People are making so much noise about the disadvantages of FGM but hardly do they mention anything about the advantages.Is FGM so bad that nobody wants to even mention an iota of positivity about this 14-century-old practice? Is it that despicable, or heinous or barbaric as some people want us to believe? Please don't set my teeth on edge!
The hypocrisy about the whole thing is that our so-called civilised sisters had to wait only when they are in the western world to realize the negativity of the practise and that is after they themselves have massively benefited.The worst thing is that they are kissing up to the westerners who found the practise cruel and backward when they have their own skeletons in their cupboards but I will come to that later.The fact of the matter is money-making by some of our sisters who think the only way to make fast money is by selling out to the white man who is hell-bent on bringing down anything black or african.
I know about a lady in Denmark who made a meagre 10000 dollars in working so hard to expose the bondo secrets.She made a documentary and went as far as Magburaka and Freetown masquerading as someone who wants to help the 'soweis' and 'digbas' out.The people swallowed her bait hook,line,sinker and all especially after dishing some small amounts to the society bigwigs.What happened afterwards taught her a lesson she will never forget! She did not get all the money as was promised by his white colleagues and when the film was released her name was nowhere to be seen.She was expecting to win the oscar or Nobel prize but ended up being a sore loser who has made a lot of enemies.She made an empty threat of going to court but had no support.
Coming to the westerners who think everything black or african is bad and have launched the fiercest campaign against FGM, my wonder is their neglect or keeping under the wraps the ills of their rancid and depraved societies. Come on guys, do these people want the world to beleive that HOMOSEXUALITY is better than FGM? For argument's sake let us say it is their right to do whatever they want and that they are not answerable to anyone ás long as what they do does not encroach on another person's right.But the million-dollar question is:WHY DID GOD DESTROY SODOM AND GOMORRAH AND HAS NOT DESTROYED FGM-PRACTISING COUNTRIES? Can somebody help me out with an answer?
To all anti-FGM activists if you are not big hypocrites why don't you criticise or bedevil homosexuality? You can stand out at Times square or Hyde Park so that people can realise that homosexuality is not only barbaric but bestial too.Remember there are gays and lesbians in Salone too and please don't feed me with the crap that we have none in our country. what is good for the goose is good for the gander!
Now before anyone pounces on me I have a lukewarm opinion on FGM.My advice to all girls is if it feels good then go for it! After all people have undergone initiation for umpteen years with only negligible casualties which should remove all causes for concern.
Subject: Re: ALL SO-CALLED ANTI-FGM ACTIVISTS ARE BIG HYPOCRITES!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:13:10 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Bai Bureh,
You seem passionately anti-gay and you being a warrior, you have the necessary credentials to fight against it. A common saying goes like this "One man can not fight a dozen". I choose to campaign against FGM why can't you take up the fight against HOMOSEXUALITY. You can start at Times Square, the Mall in DC and then take it over to Hyde Park in London. All good venues with potentially heavy crowds as audience and good luck. Of course we have gays in S/L. You need to stop them too.
By the way, are you HOMOPHOBIC? Do somethiong about it. Tell the westerners that their culture stinks (I guess thats what you portrayed in your piece).
Subject: Re: ALL SO-CALLED ANTI-FGM ACTIVISTS ARE BIG HYPOCRITES!
From: Ttatalya.
To: All
Date Posted: 13:36:41 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
TRATOR your are the one who is BONDOPHOBIC AND CULTUREPHOBIC
YOU SORRY BAD BAD!!!
Subject: Re: ALL SO-CALLED ANTI-FGM ACTIVISTS ARE BIG HYPOCRITES!
From: Ttatalya.
To: All
Date Posted: 13:47:46 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
MBALU, ARE YOU A LESBIAN BY THE WAY? IT APPEARS AS IF YOU ARE A SISTER WHO IS TRYING TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET BUT FINDING SOME JUSTIFICATION. IT WILL NOT BE A SUPRISE LATER TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE ONE BECAUSE OF PROBLEMS YOU ARE EXPERIENCING WITH MEN DUE FGM.
Subject: Re: ALL SO-CALLED ANTI-FGM ACTIVISTS ARE BIG HYPOCRITES!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:22:37 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Ttatalya,
Have a good weekend kid and remember to stay in school, don't be a fool.
Subject: Re: ALL SO-CALLED ANTI-FGM ACTIVISTS ARE BIG HYPOCRITES!
From: Ttatalya.
To: All
Date Posted: 15:01:25 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
MBALU I AM SERIOUS. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, ONECE AGAIN I AM ASKING YOU. ARE A LESBIAN???? ONE DAY, YOU WILL COME OUT OF THE CLOSET AND TELL US THAT YOU ARE ONE. WHY? YOUR REASON WILL BE; "WELL MEN ALWAYS DUMPED ME BECAUSE OF MY LACK OF SEXUAL PLEASURE DUE TO FGM.
WE NEED TO KNOW NOW PROFESSOR!!
Subject: Re: ALL SO-CALLED ANTI-FGM ACTIVISTS ARE BIG HYPOCRITES!
From: Boli
To: All
Date Posted: 10:21:29 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: Boli@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-65-105-98.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.65.105.98
Message:
My friend FGM is outdated and barbaric. Why do people cry for the death penalty to be abolished? This has been a practice for centuries too. Why are we against public flogging? Do we still stay a husband should beat his wife because she has not put food on the table on time? These are practices of the past and should be treated as such. When I was at school we were told that 'the rod is made for the back of fools', does that make it right? As far as I know, most initiates of the Bundo Society are under age (as young as 5) and have no say in whether they are initiated or not.
Whatever your stance on Gays and Lesbianism, you will concede that it is sex between consenting adults. I am not aganist the Bundo society and what it stands for, but I am against the doctrine that you have to be harmed (by FGM) before you can become a member. I am a member of a secret society in Sierra Leone and it has given me an good and positive insight into the African culture. The people who are complaining about FGM are not only non-initiates but initiates themselves and I am sure you will agree with the phrase 'who feels it knows it'. I am against it but I leave it with the women to decide.
Subject: We TAKE 5-10-20-50-100 Anytin
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:10:28 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Please pull sara..Its FRIDAY
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&PID=27487#27487
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&FID=10&PR=3
Subject: Re: ALL SO-CALLED ANTI-FGM ACTIVISTS ARE BIG HYPOCRITES!
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 10:10:26 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
I feel you Bra!
Subject: Sadam insane - Please pull sara..Its FRIDAY
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:12:34 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Please pull sara..Its FRIDAY, Leh god sorry for we all.
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&PID=27487#27487
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&FID=10&PR=3
Subject: Re: Sadam insane - Please pull sara..Its FRIDAY
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 10:34:40 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Awojubilia me na satan. Al ham do lilahe i feel hungry. Ara mani ara him to McDonald.
May God bless you all. Have a happy Friday. Mbalu I will see you in Freetown not in a bad way but curious to see how it will work out for you. You have a tough battle ahead of you.
Insame I am.
Subject: Re: Sadam insane - Please pull sara..Its FRIDAY
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:17:57 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Thanks Sadam,
for the kind words. I guess you may not be insane after all. So are you pretending or what?
Ain't you suppose to spend your vacation in Iraq? What will you be doing in S/L. :)
Subject: Re: Sadam insane - Please pull sara..Its FRIDAY
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:17:47 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Thanks Sadam,
for the kind words. I guess you may not be insane after all. So are you pretending or what?
Ain't you suppose to spend your vacation in Iraq? What will you be doing in S/L.
Subject: Re: Sadam insane - Please pull sara..Its FRIDAY
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 14:49:26 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Hay, I got killed in Iraq. This is my second coming so i choose Sierra leone. Just kidding. I am a Sierra Leonean and I am from the Southwestern part of Sierra leone.
On a serious note though, if you realy want to pursue that of your research, do it without this forum. Most of us are on this forum to get some of you angry for the topics you bring beside the usually politicing.I look forward in seing you and will be happy to assit you if need be.
I have to commend you for being so tough in the animalitic forum of ours. Keep the fight. We need more women like you in the sierra leone community. I say this with all due respect, I remain Insane or better yet Sadam
Subject: Haja Isha Rahman
From: Halida Rahman
To: All
Date Posted: 08:31:41 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: halidauk@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac0a1cc.bb.sky.com at 90.192.161.204
Message:
Thank you so much to all that have taken their time to mourn with us in this sad time. Indeed our mother was an incredible woman that will be greatly missed by all of us.
Thank you for all your kind words....it means more than you can imagine.
Lots of Love
Halida
Subject: Luck Dube is Dead!!!
From: Lucky Dube
To: All
Date Posted: 06:18:19 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: f298781.ga.unc.edu at 152.4.31.217
Message:
S African reggae star shot dead
During his career Lucky Dube released 22 albums
The South African reggae musician, Lucky Dube, has been shot dead in front of his children in Johannesburg during an attempted car hijacking.
He had been dropping his teenage son and daughter off in the suburb of Rosettenville on Thursday evening.
Police say they were already out of the car when three shots were fired through a car window killing their father.
One of South Africa's most popular artists, Lucky Dube toured the world singing about social problems.
The BBC's Mpho Lakaje in Johannesburg says the murder reflects the high crime rate in South Africa.
Legend
Our correspondent, at the crash site on Thursday night, said Mr Dube's silver-grey Chrysler was surrounded by a group of investigating officers.
He noticed bloodstains on the seats and shattered windows.
Police said after the shots were fired, the car rolled a few metres down the road and crashed into a tree.
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He will be missed as a great musician and for his love for the children and the suffering people in Africa
Abitekaniza Denis, Kampala, Uganda
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"He was declared dead on the scene," Police inspector Lorrain Van Immareck told the BBC.
She said it was suspected that three people were responsible for the attack.
Earlier this year, Lucky Dube told the BBC how he came by his name.
"When I was born I was sick so they thought I was going to die so they didn't give me a name till I was six months or so... They waited for me to die, but when I didn't die they said, 'Wow, he's a very lucky boy!' So they called me Lucky," he said.
He began his career by singing mbaqanga (traditional Zulu) music and recorded his first album with the Super Soul band in 1982.
He later moved into reggae, producing Rastas Never Die and Think About The Children in 1984.
His albums Slave, Prisoner and Together As One saw him gain first national, and then global, recognition.
Three years ago his 1989 anti-apartheid hit Together as One, which calls for world peace and harmony, was voted one of Africa's top 10 songs by BBC readers and listeners.
Lucky Dube released his most recent album, Respect, in April.
Culled from BBC
Subject: FOR SADAM INSANE
From: MRS INSANE
To: All
Date Posted: 06:01:54 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4576842a.dyn.optonline.net at 69.118.132.42
Message:
WHY IS SADAM INSANE FIGHTING SO HARD IN FAVOR OF THE BUNDO BUSH? I HAVE THE ANSWER.
1. HIS PENIS IS VERY VERY SMALL, BECAUSE HE IS FAT WITH A BIG STOMACH AND WHEN HE CANNOT PLEASE ME HE BLAMES IT ON MY NONEXSISTING CLITORIS.
2. HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO PLEASE A WOMAN, SO HE PREFER WOMEN WHO HAVE NO CLITORIS AND CANNOT FEEL ANYTHING.
THIS ASSUMPTION IS COMING FROM HIS WIFE AND I AM READY TO POST HIS PICTURE AND HIS NAME. SO INSANE BE WARN
Subject: Re: FOR SADAM INSANE
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 08:10:01 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
All you can do is loan me your wife if you have one is see if she will return back to you. I rest my case and I remain Insane.
Subject: Is Kallon a qualified coach?
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 05:20:40 10/19/07 ()
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I know that my question will open the flood gate for attack against my being. But, I care less. It is not in the interest of football fans to see that their favourite sport is being usurped. Kallon has no business in training Leone Stars. He must show his footballing skills. I know that in Sierra Leone, everything can be done by anyone to gain attention. Even, Saidu Bangura joined Leone Stars contingent to South Africa. But, this is a new dawn and it will be unprofessional to hire any coach or encourage Sierra Leonean footballers to stamp their authority over qualified individual.
First and foremost. Leone Stars in order to be tactically competitive, needs to hire a professional coach. The team does not need any mediocre coach that has no Coaching certificate. We should not allow our emotions or love for an individual player to confine Sierra Leone at the bottom of footballing ranking.
Please, read below what will trigger the decline of Sierra Leonean football, if styeps are not taken to curtail the influenceof individal players.
Peters denies Sierra Leone job
By Mohamed Fajah Barrie
BBC Sport, Freetown
Nigerian coach James Peters has denied having talks with the SLFA
Nigerian coach James Peters has denied being appointed as the caretaker coach of the Sierra Leone's national football team.
This comes despite the Sierra Leone Football Association (SLFA) announcing that Peters would take charge of the Leone Stars as coach.
Peters had been expected by the SLFA to oversee the side's two 2010 World Cup preliminary round matches against Guinea Bissau.
However, the 55-year-old Nigerian did not lead the team out in their 1-0 win over in the first-leg game.
Peters told BBC Sport such permanent coaching arrangements were never discussed between the two parties.
'Surprise'
"I do not consider myself coach of Leone Stars because nobody from the SLFA has discussed that with me," said Peters.
"There is no paper to prove I am the coach.
"Surprisingly I heard it on the radio that I had been appointed and I think they were just deceiving the public.
"I was sent to Sierra Leone by the West African Football Union (Wafu) President-elect Dr Amos Adamu to come and give technical assistance for the Leone Stars last two matches against Benin and Bissau respectively.
"So the question of employing me as coach should not have arisen."
'Kallon'
Peters also claimed that he was not given the chance to give out technical assistance to the team as was agreed by Dr. Adamu and the SLFA.
"I was not on the bench for Bissau match because I was not given the chance to help in training the team before the match.
"I went to help train the team but I was not allowed to as I was told that Mohamed Kallon was training the team as coach instead.
"It was unprofessional and I made it clear to the SLFA that I can not be contesting for the coaching job with Kallon."
But Bah has reiterated that he agreed with Peters that he should take up the job.
"I would not be so irresponsible to go public and announce the appointment of Peters and Kanu (without it being true).
"I discussed the issue with him, together with his assistant Ahmed Kanu, and both of them agreed."
Peters is due to return home to Nigeria on 25 October.
Subject: To Sengbe et SLPP:Portrait of a State Run Amok.
From: Oumar Farouk Sesay
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Date Posted: 05:19:55 10/19/07 ()
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The APC is inheriting a largely dysfunctional state, disjointed and disconnected like hacked limbs. What held the state together during the tenure of the SLPP were personal connections to the presidency and not institutional relationships amongst the different state agencies. But the presidency was itself dysfunctional. The ex-president believed he was in the departing lounge of his life and presidency and he would rather amuse himself than get involved in the hard task of governance. The vice presidency was transformed into one big campaign trail that gave a blind eye to the corrupt and inept as long as they paid campaign dues. The state became one messy macabre portrait of deliberate deformation to create patrimonial connections and rent seeking.
The rot runs through all institution like a rogue gene contaminating everyone and every thing; department designed to regulate were left languishing without resources to perform their regulatory functions. The ministry of works was, for example, supposed to regulate the Sierra Leone Roads Authority. But it was so lacking in financial resources and technical capacity that most times the pyramid of authority was inverted –the SLRA led and Works followed. The same dysfunctional theme was evidenced at the Ministry of Energy and Power. It lacked both energy and power to regulate the National Power Authority. Result: the NPA had a blank cheque to perpetuate ineptness.
The disconnect between the Finance ministry and other government departments was manifested in the near absence of adequate disbursement of budgetary allocat1ons to various ministries to enable them carry state functions. In most cases over 50% of budgeted funds failed to get to the beneficiaries .The funds either got lost in the accounting quagmire of pegging expenditure on anticipated revenue or simply missing in action in the vast battle field of rent seeking. Either way the state was left starved of much needed funds - reducing the process of annual budgetary appropriation to a symbolic ritual of governance that lacked substance.
Internal Affairs Ministry was supposed to regulate the police, prisons, immigration, fire force etc. But officers of Internal Affairs need clearance from the prison director to visit the prison under their purview. Immigration became a one-woman show and all they did at immigration was issuing and renewing passports. All other immigration functions like manning border crossings and enforcing compliance with immigration laws were left to atrophy. The fire force was incommunicado with the Guma Valley Water Company because the former killed the manager of the latter over some pale of water. They are in court. Meanwhile no water for the fire force in all hydrants except one.
A failed state emerging from the abyss of war with weak institutions usurped by individuals whose political connections gave them immunity to plunder - and then launder in the washing machines of an arrogant political campaign. As most state organs became dysfunctional commissions were created to set things aright. Many of these commissions became like rogue and cancerous genes mutating the purposes of their creation; popping up hydra heads that cannibalized the body-politic; squirrels running riot in the groundnut fields of the state. What has the National Commission for War Affected Children been doing? Or the National Commission for Democracy? What standards has the Standards Bureau been implementing? Or the Telecommunication Commission; what has been happening there that has been promoting telecommunication in the country?
The many commissions were set up by the out going Government with lofty ideals remain as lofty ideals with no practical reality either because of funds or absence of guts and technical expertise to carry through?. The National Privatization Commission is the vanguard of inept commissions; it is yet to revitalize a single parastatal. Of the many options available to the commission -marketization; restructuring, joint state-private sector ownership; management contract etc - etc they chose to micro manage the twenty plus companies under their remit - reinventing patrimonial connections; ensuring that nothing works under their mandate. They held the leash tied to the necks of over twenty institutions that could otherwise transformed the economy of the country but for an inept commission on oath to decommission effort.
Oversights institutions are leftovers without sights. The Anti-corruption commission has been anti-itself since the going away of the expatriate assistant and the sacking of its first commissioner. The Audit Service did a good job and laid its report before parliament in 2004. Parliament killed it and the report now sits somewhere keeping the company of cockroaches. The Office of Ombudsman was being run from private chambers,
Of course, certain institutions were working; but these are mainly as a result of the Project Implementation Units that were heavily micro-managed by international institutions. The Institutional Reform and Capacity Building Project that housed the decentralization secretariat have task managers for different component somewhere in Washington.
The same was also true for the numerous other things of state that appear to be working. The police was micro-managed by an expatriate Inspector General and a Commonwealth Community safety and Security Project for quite some time. Great. many reforms were instituted and the police leadership was up to a time up to the task of entrenching the reforms. But this was no longer the case in the latter part of the Kabbah presidency. The Police were undoing the reforms and returning to the bad old days. Reasons: police corruption and lack of funding and commitment to policing ideals by a vice presidency which primary interests were not professional police matters. The military was largely prevented from messing up because of the presence of the International Military Assistance and Training Team.
The civil service was left to continue to slide down the path of the uncivil. Regular civil servants were left to their own devices. When serious things needed to be done project implementation units were created to do them. This created scrambled reporting and accountability lines that brought about rancor and detracted from the abilities of the implementation units to meet their objectives. Efforts at functional and structural reforms of the civil service were thwarted by reactionary forces within the political leadership and civil service. A greedy presidency hacked units off many ministries and attached them to a presidency that lacked the staff capacity to design programs and provide effective and efficient oversight. The praise singing staff at the presidency grabbed more than they could chew and vomited dysfunctionality all over the place.
This dysfunctionality weighed far more heavily on ordinary people. But it was a dysfunctionality that was functional to the governing group. That was why they thought they were doing well, and with arrogance and lack of public shame wanted the people to continue to support them. But the people knew better. They wanted a system that is functional for the people. Building this system starts with reining in the amok state and placing it at the service of the ordinary person.
Subject: Re: To Sengbe et SLPP:Portrait of a State Run Amok.
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 10:22:59 10/19/07 ()
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I would like to take this opportunity to thank you, Mr.Oumar Farouk Sesay for the posting of this article.
Mr. O.F. Sesay, would you please state the source of the contents of this article?
Is it part of the report submitted to President Koroma by the transition team headed by VP Sam Sumana?
Did you, Mr. Sesay write this report based on your own personal investigations?
It is very important that the source of the contents of your posting be disclosed in order to respond to it appropriately.
Please grant us this wish.
This is indeed a very sad indictment on the collective mentality of ALL Sa Lonians, not just the SLPP as the outgone governing body in that country - the so-called Salone mentality toward work and professional obligations / responsibilities, in general.
Subject: Re: To Sengbe et SLPP:Portrait of a State Run Amok.
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 09:12:01 10/19/07 ()
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Excellent descr1ption of the status quo, but I would venture to say that this sad state of affairs is not entirely the fault of the SLPP. We look to the new administration to start working on turning things around.
Subject: Re: To Sengbe et SLPP:Portrait of a State Run Amok.
From: Tamba Moiwo
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Date Posted: 08:54:26 10/19/07 ()
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Rubbish and more Rubbish from an APC apologist:
"The APC is inheriting a largely dysfunctional state, disjointed and disconnected like hacked limbs". Total bullocks.
"Building this system starts with reining in the amok state and placing it at the service of the ordinary person."
Do you mean to say Salone must be a Temne Hegemony then????
Subject: Re: To Sengbe et SLPP:Portrait of a State Run Amok.
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 12:43:38 10/19/07 ()
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"Do you mean to say Salone must be a Temne Hegemony then????"----Tamba Moiwo.
Tamba, what is the justification for this incendiary charge? I checked Mr. Sesay's article and couldn't see any reason for this charge.
Subject: Re: To Sengbe et SLPP:Portrait of a State Run Amok.
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Date Posted: 05:35:28 10/19/07 ()
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you really must be joking, have you forgotten SLPP inherit a bankrupt and war-thorn country from APC or probably it is just selective memory
Subject: Re: To Sengbe et SLPP:Portrait of a State Run Amok.
From: FAD
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Date Posted: 12:12:29 10/19/07 ()
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SP, SORRY TO TELL YOU OR TO REMIND YOU THAT THE SLPP NEVER INHERITED GOVERNMENT FROM THE APC.
THEY USED THE ARMY BOYS (BRIG. LANSANA & HINGA NORMAN) TO OVERTHROW APC IN 1967
THEY INHERITED GOVERNMENT FROM THE "MAADA BIO" NPRC AFTER THE "JAMES JONAH" RIGGED ELECTIONS OF FEBRUARY 1996, AND CONTINUED IN POWER FOLLOWING THE "WALTER NICOL" RIGGED ELECTIONS OF 2002; BUT FAILED TO CONTINUE IN POWER AS DR. CHRISTIANA THORPE REFUSED THEM THE OPPORTUNITY OF DUBIOUSLY HOLDING ON TO POWER IN 2007....
AR SURE SAY YOU DON UNDERSTAND ME NOW. NOR LIE PAN WE YAR... WE NOR FORGET YET.
Subject: LUCKY DUBE - Bambay Lans Kamara
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Bambay,
Please kindly post us a fitting video in tribute to a great African reggae star Lucky Dube. 'Remember me' would be a nice one to post. Thanks and God bless.
Subject: Re: LUCKY DUBE - Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 04:25:54 10/19/07 ()
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Bambs - your request. Now the legend leaves on. Pride goeth before a fall!
Subject: Lucky Dube is dead! Killed ny robbers
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Date Posted: 02:22:11 10/19/07 ()
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Last Updated: Friday, 19 October 2007, 04:29 GMT 05:29 UK
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S African reggae star shot dead
Lucky Dube's most recent album, Respect, was released in April
The South African reggae musician, Lucky Dube, has been shot dead in the commercial capital, Johannesburg.
A police spokeswoman said the artist was dropping his son off in the suburb of Rosettenville on Thursday evening when he was attacked by armed robbers.
His son was already out of the car when he saw what happened, and then ran for help, Capt Cheryl Engelbrecht added.
One of South Africa's most popular artists, Lucky Dube toured the world singing about social problems.
Lucky Dube began his career by singing mbaqanga (traditional Zulu) music and recorded his first album with the Super Soul band in 1982.
He later moved into reggae, producing Rastas Never Die and Think About The Children in 1984. His albums, Slave, Prisoner and Together As One saw him gain first national and then global recognition.
Lucky Dube released his 21st and most recent album, Respect, in April.
Subject: Re: Lucky Dube is dead! Killed ny robbers
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Date Posted: 04:23:33 10/19/07 ()
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/7052050.stm
Subject: Re: Lucky Dube is dead! Killed ny robbers
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 03:32:36 10/19/07 ()
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May his soul rest in peace. He is going to be a bigger star now thanwhen he was alive. Lucky Dube created too many enemies. May will all learn from this!! People like him should not be targetted by robbers. Africa clean your acts - STOP THE KILLING OF YOUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS!
Subject: Re: Lucky Dube is dead! Killed ny robbers
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 08:26:13 10/19/07 ()
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Nobody needs an enemy
Subject: WHO DETERMINES??
From: CULTURE CULTURE
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Date Posted: 01:09:20 10/19/07 ()
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CULTURE.
1. AFRICAN CULTURE
2. WESTERN CULTURE
3. ASIAN CULTURE
4. RELIGIOUS CULTURE (DIFFERENT RELIGIONS FOR THAT MATTER)
5. TRIBAL CULTURE
6. REGIONAL CULTURE
WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT CULTURES, CAN WE ALL GET ALONG? CAN WE STOP PUTTING DOWN OTHER PEOPLES CULTURE?
THIS IS EXACTLY WHY THERE ARE SO MANY PROBLEMS ON EARTH TODAY. WHO IS WHO TO DECIDE WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IS NOT GOOD. WHY CONDEMN OTHERS CULTURE AND TRY TO FORCE YOURS ON THEM?
UNLESS AND UNTIL WE CAN STOP DEMONIZING OTHERS CULTURE AND WAY OF LIFE AND RESPECT EACH OTHERS CULTURE, THERE WILL NOT BE PEACE ON EARTH.
Subject: Re: WHO DETERMINES??
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 08:25:32 10/19/07 ()
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AMEN!!! Culture Culture. You hit the nail on the head.
Subject: Re: WHO DETERMINES??
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 05:23:52 10/19/07 ()
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Si vis pacem, para bellum - if you want peace prepare for war. You cannot have peace if one culture does not possess strong and overwhelmingly superior armament. We are told that readiness to fight dissuades attacks that weakness could invite, thus keeping the peace. Strong cultures have to emerge to contain and persuade the weak to yield to the strong without a fight. in a world game like this, the strong cultures should learn to compliment the weaker cultures through a process I call, explorative reasoning.
Friend, we need the energy nof each other to survive therefore an impossible task for other cultures to leave others alone.
Subject: Re: WHO DETERMINES??
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 08:46:55 10/19/07 ()
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Your statement and logic are flawed. Have you ever heard in politics of "Balance of Power" and the effect of "mutual deterrence"? Deterence is maintained when opposing forces have equal power and force, such that they come to understand that it will not be in anyone's interest to go to war with each other because it will only lead to MAD (Mutual Assured Destruction).
This was a theory and concept of the Cold War when peace prevailed in the world despite the existence of dangerous nuclear weapons.
Do you know why Hitler started World War II? Bcause they thought they were more powerful than the rest of the world put together.
Do you know why the Japanese first attacked Pearl Harbor? Because they thought they were more powerful than the US, they didn't realise the US was a sleeping giant.
Do you know why the US dropped the nuclear bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima? Because they knew Japan didn't have one to retaliate with, so they felt more powerful than Japan.
Do you know why Dictators intimidate, harrass and kill opponents? Because they are the POWER.
Basically, all these are examples of the fact that peace is endangered when there is an imbalance of power in any environment. Hence, people invest more into peace when they know there cannot be a winner.
Subject: Re: WHO DETERMINES??
From: Ose broke!
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Date Posted: 07:57:36 10/19/07 ()
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Culturee is a norm that requires discipline and in the event when it embraces evil tendencies, all steps need to be taken relinquish it.
We inherited traditions that do not strech our imaginations to be susceptible enough to adhere. However, history has shown how traditions have made life miserable for those who hold on to certain cultural norms.
In the case, of Sierra Leone, we have seen how politicians and their supporters have managed to plant trabilism, hate and fear unto those who sharply refused to practice and be part of a culture that creates unfliendliness, vengeance, dishonesty and lies.
If culture is to be meaningful, its adherents must conform to emerging changes that seek to uuphold human rights, freedom, and tolerance .
Subject: Re: WHO DETERMINES??
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 09:51:14 10/19/07 ()
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There is a difference between culture and tradition. There is a difference between behavior and moraise. There is a difference between intrinsic culture and acquired culture (acculturation).
"Unfriendliness, vengeance, dishonesty and lies" are not culture or moraise, they are "behavior". A culture is a way of life that is rooted in traditional belief. Anybody can be a liar in any group or society anywhere in the world. But Temne or Mende culture are found only amongst the Temnes and Mendes, for example.
"Emerging changes" have to be "acceptable" but not "forced". It has to be "convincing" but not "imposing", simply because there is no guarantee that the "change" is in the best interest of those being made to change, or if the people will adapt to the change at all. Just because its a "change" does not make it good. Homosexaulity is a "change", do you think the general mass of people will ever adapt to it?
Being from the old school of life, I find too many "changes" in our children of today that I dislike because the impact of many of those "changes" on the younger generation is not positive.
For example, all my life in America I have never seen such an implosion of elementary and secondary school kids going about shooting and killing in schools. I can attribute the action to many modern "changes" in the lives of our children:
1. Glorified Violence on TV and in Movies
2. The widespread availability of guns
3. The too much liberal laws allowing killers to go free. For example, such killings are not in Saudi Arabia because of the Sharia laws that haven't "changed" in centuries.
4. Children now having more rights than their parents, hence no regard for parental rights.
5. Children being taught sex education and being given condoms, yet society does not expect them to engage in premarital or premature sex and have unwanted pregnancies...really?
5. Too much DIVORCE, Why? You tell me...
Changes have to be good, acceptable, worthy and in the best interest of the people. When you force people to change, you create problems such as we are doing in Iraq. Saddam was "bad compared to our own ways". But is our own ways good for the Iraqis? He won 98% of his people's votes in the last election before the invasion and this forceful "change" was brought upon them. Did we ever ask the Iraqis whether they prefered Saddam to our own brand of Democracy? NO!!! We invaded and tried to force our own way and culture on them to make a "change". Has it worked? Will it ever work? I DOUBT IT.
Subject: Re: WHO DETERMINES??
From: Ose broke
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Date Posted: 08:58:17 10/19/07 ()
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Correction!
I want to say,"all steps need to be taken to relinquish it".
Subject: Re: WHO DETERMINES??
From: Ose broke
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Date Posted: 08:57:59 10/19/07 ()
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Correction!
I want to say,"all steps neet to be taken to relinquish it".
Subject: Komba Kambo released
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Date Posted: 00:06:19 10/19/07 ()
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Samuel Komba Kambo is interviewed at an Immigration and Customs Enforcement contract facility in San Antonio Friday, October 12, 2007, where he is being detained by U.S. Immigration authorities. Kambo remains in custody despite being cleared of accusations by U.S. Immigration officials of participating in atrocities in his native Sierra Leone where he was part of a group that overthrew a corrupt dictatorial regime. (AP Photo/Gloria Ferniz)
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Federal Judge Orders Detainee Released
By MICHELLE ROBERTS – 1 hour ago
SAN ANTONIO (AP) — A judge ordered authorities Thursday to release an immigrant from Sierra Leone who has been jailed for nearly a year while fighting accusations of involvement in the killing of counter-revolutionaries, charges another judge ruled were unfounded.
U.S. District Judge Xavier Rodriguez ordered immigration officials to allow Samuel Komba Kambo, a former energy minister in his west African country, to post bond while they appeal an immigration judge's ruling. He was released from federal custody in San Antonio and reunited with his family.
"I feel great. It's like a dream," said Kambo, who was embraced by his wife and four children as he left a downtown lockup. "I just want to be with my family for now."
Noncitizens like Kambo, who has been living in Texas on valid visas for 14 years, are subject to broad discretion by the Justice Department under post-Sept. 11 detention laws. They can be jailed during a prolonged appeals process that typically keeps cases in immigration court and the Board of Immigration Appeals for years before they can reach the federal court system.
Congress and some previous court rulings have chipped away at federal judges' power to intervene before immigration court appeals are exhausted, but Rodriguez said Thursday that he found "a sliver of jurisdiction given the facts of the case" to grant Kambo's request to post bond.
"The government has not demonstrated a reasonable justification for the continued detention," Rodriguez wrote in a 41-page order issued late Thursday. "Accordingly, the court finds that Kambo's continued detention under these circumstances violates his right to substantive due process under the Fifth Amendment."
Rodriguez ordered Kambo be allowed to post the $12,500 bond set by an immigration judge months ago. His relatives posted bond and filled out the paperwork.
"I feel like the world's load has been lifted off my head," said Hanaan Kambo, his wife, who has been raising their four children alone for the past year. "It's a wonderful day."
The government sought to deport Kambo, a fuels analyst for a central Texas utility, after the U.S. State Department accused him of being involved in the summary executions of 29 counter-revolutionaries in his home country.
Kambo, who was part of a government that took power in a bloodless coup in 1992, has denied any involvement in the killings, and an immigration judge ruled there was no credible evidence that Kambo had any role in creating or orchestrating the suppression of counter-revolutionaries.
Assistant U.S. Attorney Gary Anderson said Thursday that federal authorities still believe the immigration judge's finding in Kambo's case was wrong.
They have appealed to the Board of Immigration Appeals, which could revoke Kambo's bond and overturn the immigration judge's ruling that Kambo should receive permanent U.S. residency.
Kambo, who has a master's of business administration from the University of Texas and lives in Austin with his family, was taken into custody in October 2006 during what he thought was a routine green card interview. Despite rulings from an immigration judge that the government lacked evidence he participated in the killings and that he should be released, Kambo remained in lockup while ICE appealed.
In an interview with The Associated Press last week, he said the prolonged incarceration had forced his family to use up their savings and give up their health insurance as they struggled to pay their mortgage.
Kambo could have been released without Rodriguez's order if he voluntarily agreed to leave the United States, but he and his wife have four U.S.-born children, ages 4 to 13, and they decided to fight to ensure their children could be educated here.
Hanaan Kambo said the judge's order releasing her husband was almost surreal after nearly a year of disappointed hopes.
"Finally, we got it," she said, raising her palms in the courtroom. "Thank God, justice has been served."
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Subject: Re: Komba Kambo released
From: Candy
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Date Posted: 08:48:19 10/19/07 ()
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Thanks to God. I am happy for him. Whatever our feelings towards the NPRC regime, he was not the only one there.
See pictures of his release
Subject: Re: Komba Kambo released
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Date Posted: 07:15:11 10/19/07 ()
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Date Posted: 23:30:48 10/18/07 ()
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Subject: So true.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 23:23:54 10/18/07 ()
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Isn't that true!
Subject: Sierra Leonean scientist honoured in Nigeria
From: Taye Babaleye,
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Date Posted: 22:48:55 10/18/07 ()
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Sierra Leonean scientist honoured in Nigeria
An agronomist with the International Institute of Tropical Agriculture (IITA), Dr. Alpha Kamara has been honored by the Emir of Biu, Borno State, for introducing series of improved technologies that ensure food security and alleviate poverty in four Local Government Areas (LGAs) of the State. Dr Kamara, a Sierra Leonean, was honored during a recently held farmers’ field day at Wandali village in Kwaya-Kusa LGA.
The Emir of Biu, Alhaji Umar Aliu Mustapha who conferred the title of Sarkin Yada Iri (Chief Seed Producer) on Alpha Kamara(photo, right) said the gesture was in appreciation of Dr Kamara’s assiduous efforts in introducing improved agricultural technologies to farmers in his Emirate under the project, Promoting Sustainable Agriculture in Borno State (PROSAB), funded by the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA), and implemented by IITA. Dr. Kamara also received a work bull from the Chairman of Damboa Local Government in the Borno Emirate.
“Since PROSAB came to Borno State four years ago, our people have become major producers of maize, soybean, cowpea, sorghum, rice, and groundnuts. Their crop yields have improved through the use of improved crop varieties and improved crop management practices. The parasitic weed Striga which destroys maize and sorghum fields and made farmers abandon their fields is being wiped out in the farming communities through the use of improved technologies introduced by the project,” says the Emir.
In his response, Dr. Kamara said he valued the honor so much because it came from a traditional ruler and farmers, as a sign of appreciation. He thanked his colleagues from IITA who developed the technologies being extended to the farmers.
Ms Valerie Bilodeau, the CIDA Representative, said agricultural development could only be possible when there was cooperation among key players in the sector: the government, the private sector, and farmers alike. She expressed satisfaction at the level of improvement in agricultural practices in Borno State; adding, “We are delighted to support PROSAB which has succeeded in bringing female farmers into the mainstream of rural development,” She remarked that she would go back to Canada with good memories of what she had seen during the field tour of soybean farms in nearby villages.
Earlier, the State Commissioner for Women Affairs, Hajiya Maryam Bukar Petrol called on CIDA and other donors to intensify efforts to support rural farmers in the State through adequate funding of research institutes for more dedication, to face the challenges of food production in the State. She added that extreme weather conditions, poor soils, poor management techniques, and lack of storage facilities were some of the problems facing farmers in the State.
PROSAB has contributed to the turning around of the fortunes of thousands of farmers in the four LGAs of Biu, Damboa, Hawul and Kwaya-Kusa. This year’s farmers’ field day was attended by more than one thousand male and female farmers.
Subject: Re: Sierra Leonean scientist honoured in Nigeria
From: FAD
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Date Posted: 11:26:12 10/19/07 ()
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THIS SHOWS THAT SIERRA LEONEANS CAN PERFORM WHEN GIVEN THE RESOURCES AND EXPOSED TO THE APPROPRIATE ENVIRONMENT
Subject: "I am still a gay and Insane".
From: ON THE RAMPAGE
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Date Posted: 22:40:36 10/18/07 ()
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Subject: Quote of the Day
From: Salone Blondy
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Date Posted: 21:38:52 10/18/07 ()
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"The Road to hell is paved with good intentions."
--Mo Ibrahim, Founder of Celtel, on why even good African Leaders should not stay in power indefinitely.
Subject: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 21:32:23 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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Why would MALE circumcision be called "Circumcision" while FEMALE circumcision is called "Mutilation"?
Why would FGC (Female Genital Circumcision), be any worse than FGP (Female Genital Piercing with rings hanging on them)?
These semantics are not only due to cultural biases but it is an outright attempt at the continued campaign to destroy non western cultures around the world.
Western culture has always strived to be the dominant culture in the world by destroying all other human cultures. This is so that they won't have to loose or succumb to other stronger, more robust, much older, richer and more respectable human cultures.
AND THEY ALWAYS KNOW HOW TO RECRUIT AGENTS FROM WITHIN THE TARGET CULTURES TO HELP THEM DESTROY THEIR OWN VERY CULTURES SO THAT FINGERS WILL NOT BE POINTED AT WESTERNERS.
As if we have all shed and done away with our African-ness. As if some of the languages that have been used here can be used on western public TV or Radio. As if everyone here want to change the culture they grew up with. As if everyone want to be listening to these raw languages now being used by these acculturated propagators (now I am included). As if people on this forum are really the ones who matter in eradicating FGC
I AM AN AFRICAN MAN FROM A COUNTRY AND TRIBE THAT PRACTICES FGC (Female Genital Circumcision), AS A MATTER OF CULTURE, AND I RESPECT THAT.
IF THE PEOPLE PROPAGATING THESE WESTERN-ACCULTURATED MENTALITIES REALLY WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, LET THEM GO TO THOSE SOCIETIES AND EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE WHAT IS WRONG WITH FGC NAD WHAT IS SO GOOD ABOUT NON FGC.
For now, I want the person on this forum who is so gongho on FGC (Mbalu), to tell me the difference between FGC and FGP. FPG are those Night Club dancing women, often in Go-go Bars, who pierce their private parts for purposes of show, dancing and earning money. They often have rings hanging on them in their performances. Mbalu please tell me what is good about that versus FGC.
I can bet that if the westerners pushing to destroy other people's cultures were to say tomorrow that FGC is GOOD, we will witness these acculturated westernized sycophants instantly change their minds in celebration of the newly contrived virtues of their westerners instigators.
I have tried not to enter this debate, but it seems to be going on too long already. This will be the last time I will be making comments about it. But for God's sake, allow other people to practice the culture they are proud of and have not complained about:
1. God has not yet come down to earth and declared to all humans that FGC is bad for women.
2. FGC and FGP affect the same private parts. But FGP is carried on continually as a money making venture and less care for the preservation of the integrity of one's own body.
3. The people who practice FGC have not engaged in massive campaigns to denounce their own culture why should someone who doesn't even understand the culture.
4. Some detractors point to the very rare instances of unfortunate incidents from the application of FGC to be the reason why FGC is bad. If so, then we should all say that Doctors and modern medicine is bad because there are too many malpractices taking place in nearly all medical institutions.
5. As stated above, it is publicly known that many western night club women dancers do pierce their own private parts (Clits and Labia Majoras), and hang ear rings on them for show, display and money earning ventures. Which one has a better purpose in life, the one for cultural practice (FGC) or the one for making money (FGP). That is clearly one of the peripheral attributes of prostitution (selling one's body for money)
(a). Has any of these western Femi-Nanzis (to borrow from radio Talk Show Host Rush Limbaugh), raised any alarms about that in their own countries? What does Mbalu say about FGP?
(b) How much better is one practice (FGC)from the other (FGP)?
(b) Have they even tried to find out if the FGP women endure perpetual pains from the weight of the rings?
(c). Have they even tried to compare the effect upon the human psychie between FGC people and FGP people? I bet NOT!!! They prefer to push their own evil doings under the rug and publicly point at other people's actions.
3. For all I know it is the radical Femi-Nazis, who are going around and collecting NGO moneys from their various governments and institutions in order to create employment for themselves at the expense of these innocent rich cultures. Let's look at som eof the vantages:
1. HIV/AIDS researchers have now determined that AIDS spreads much more easily in UNCIRCUMCISED than in circumcised men.
2. Non FGC women have been determined to be more promiscuous than FGC women, hence more subjective to carrying Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs).
3. Studies have shown differences in the maintenance of body hygiene....and MORE!
I hope this sheds light on this topic once and for all and let's discuss something else.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 23:51:29 10/18/07 ()
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Bra Toe:
Set aside the culture war for a second and imagine how demoralizing the rationale for FGM is.
WHY REMOVE THE CLIT OF A WOMAN TO REDUCE SEXUAL URGES WHEN YOU CAN EDUCATE THEM? WHY?
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: KLA
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Date Posted: 13:26:53 10/19/07 ()
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KL,
please support the growing numbers of folks working towards the health and welfare of individuals not happy with the effects of the extreme form of SORORITY
HAZING called FGM.
This is a human rights issue of great importance.
Great progress in being made in other African Nations
like ETHIOPIA. Hope Salone follows suite.
tstm
xx
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 00:05:19 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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No, Please understand my point. I am not justifying the act. I am simply saying two things:
1. If the people who engage in that culture are not against it, then leave them alone. You will be depriving them of a culture wetsreners don't understand.
2. Don't condemn someone else culture when, in fact, a similar act is happening under your nose but you chose to overlook it.
Finally, let me also ask you. Do you think men should be circumcircised? Why? Do you know that both genitals involved in male circumcision and FGC are the same organs in humans? Why then should men lose theirs, but not women?
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Mbalu
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Date Posted: 14:10:34 10/19/07 ()
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Toe,
I am a member of the culture that I am now condeming. Why ignore me and speak as if a white woman from Somerset County is the one preaching against FGM. It is me, Mbalu, your S/L sister who has suffered from that ugly practice without my consent.
Hopefully you read my main response to your main posting.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 22:40:38 10/18/07 ()
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FGC is barbaric and inhuman(rights?).
FGP is a LIFESTYLE, period.
Hahaha...... Ar go dai wit laff.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 23:08:42 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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A clear indication of bias and prejudice FOR YOUR OWN WAY OF LIFE. I bet you, you think its more civilized? Hahahaaaaaaa
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 23:22:41 10/18/07 ()
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Toe,
I was just making fun in the way SOME western minds see things.
If it is alien culture, then it is barbaric. On the other hand if similar things are practiced in the west, then it becomes Lifestyle.
Hope you get my drift this time.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 23:43:45 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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I'm sorry I misunderstood your sarcasm. Honestly for a minute, I did think that you were being sarcastic. Anyway you are right. Anything unknown or not understood by them is barbaric. A very ignorant way of thinking.
I remember those days when they used to derogatively call Oriental people as "Yellow People" until in the late 1970s when Japan came up technologically, and started taking over the realm of technology. Only then did they become "Japanese" and now "Chinese".
That ignorance cannot be allowed to stand any longer in this modern world. I get offended by our own African people who never seem to see through these racist or prejudiced thinkings.
I just read about some Nobel Prize Scientist who has just goofed by saying Blacks are less intelligent. He attributed his prejudiced thought on factors that have no merit. His whole argument is based on blacks in America who exist in the same environment even though they have been deprived, segregated and cheated out of equal access to all amenities for centuries. All they look at now are blacks of today.
They want us to believe that the centuries of segregation and deprivation and relegation to the worst of everything in America had no impact on the black, what a farce. That type of thinking itself is flawed and such person needs to be taken to task on it.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 22:16:16 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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What you failed to highlight in your debate is the fact that unlike FGP women (women is the word you used), FGM girls don't have a choice. These girls are having this procedure thrust on them without their consent. If these were women making a lifelong decision, none of us would say a word. There is a big difference between a woman choosing a piercing and a girl being forced into a bush and having her sexual organ butchered against her will. Your agrument is comparing apples and oranges. One has nothing to do with the other.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 23:06:49 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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I am so surprised at what you said, that I had to reply against my decisions not to respond much further due to the ignorance I see in your thinking.
You have clearly demonstrated a total lack of understanding of the attributes of social value systems in various cultures. You need to understand that the value systems that a westernized Catholic attaches to the statute of Jesus and Mary in the church is as culturally valuable as the dragons created and displayed by Chinese during their festivals. And remember that there are more Chinese in the world with those belief systems.
Then conversely, try and understand the value system an unGodly person attaches to the same statute of Christ in a Catholic Churc. It is quite meaningless to them.
What I am driving at is that "CULTURE IS IN THE EYES OF THE BEHOLDER." IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT, THEN YOU ARE DELUDING YOURSELF IF YOU THINK YOUR OWN CULTUTRAL VALUES ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN THOSE OF THE NATIVE MAN, TRUST ME. What you hold dear in your own culture means nothing to other cultures.
As per your other argument, adults should never take their children to church until the children become adults and decide for themselves. In fact, they should not even attend school until they grow up and decide for themselves. Does that make any sense to you? YOU CLEARLY MISS WHAT THE PROCESSES OF ACCULTURATION IS IN HUMAN EXISTENCE.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 23:23:46 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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How am I showing disrespect by supporting someone who has undergone the procedure and says she doen't agree with it? You won't agree with every aspect of my cultural orientation either, but I won't call you ignorant or disrespectful because of it. I didn't make an assessment of anyone's values so maybe you read too much into what I wrote. I don't agree with FGM and I never will so at best I believe we can just agree to disagree. As for your agrument about church and school, I have yet to see a study that outlines the detriment of either. If someone brings the topic to the forum about how they were forced to attend school or church as a child, I will gladly examine the terrible side effects they bring to the forefront.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 23:59:18 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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Ok, Forgive me if you think I read too much into your thinking.
But what I will NOT agree with you is the thinking that every child gets "forced" to be initiated into FGC, but when you "order" your kind on Sunday morning to get dressed for church, that is not "forcing". Haven't you ever seen the case of children not wanting to go to school on and they even resist and cry? I have, in very many instances, man.
It especially happens the first time children are made to depart from their parents and go to school. This happens mostly at pre-school or kindergarten level... Its a fact you can agree with. Parents should not forece them as per your argument.
Many people can narrate their upbringing as if they were forced to do certain things because of their parents demands or expectations. For example, you hear many people say that because their parents were doctors, they forced them to be doctors or lawyers etc. It happens.
For FGC, in my tribe, most times girls look forward to being initiated especially because of peer pressure(except for now that these western interlopers are interfering). But in my tribe an uninitiated woman has no power of social reckoning in the tribe amongst her fellow women.
So girls look forward to becoming initiated so that they cannot become outcasts of society. The value that non initiated women hold in the society of my tribe is almost equitable to the value prostitutes hold in western societies.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 00:07:01 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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"So girls look forward to becoming initiated so that they cannot become outcasts of society. The value that non initiated women hold in the society of my tribe is almost equitable to the value prostitutes hold in western societies. "
Is this really a choice?
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 00:21:33 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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Is it, in both socieies? i.e the non initiated women in my culture and prostitutes in western culture? I don't think its a matter of choice. Its more a matter of socialization, culture and acculturation.
For example, in my cultural village, prostitutes are the worst looked down people. But in the western world, they even celebrate them sometimes. Big political leaders may deal with the "Madames", and big Church leaders do get involved with prostitutes.
In some countries in western Europe, they even provide officical locat1ons (brothels) for them. Even in those western societies where they are barred to officially operate, yet, they are tolerated somehow. In my cultural village, a prostitute is despised by her fellow married women because they feel she may be a detractors for their marriages.
Again I say, to each his own. Live and let live. Let the people make the change, don't make the change for them, or force a change on them, or your own values on them. We are now fighting similar problem in Iraq, trying to impose our own "democracy" on them, even though they have been surviving all along wayyy longer than the West. Now, Iraqis even prefer Saddam's era to what they have now.
We need to respect the value systems of other humans. There is no guarantee that alien values are better than traditional values especially if forced upon them.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 22:49:58 10/18/07 ()
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Is there a diffence between a woman choosing a piercing of her ear, and a girl being forced to pierce her ear?
Apply you rules to everything. Don't just apply selectively.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 23:10:22 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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There is a big difference in piercing your ears and altering someone's sex organ and effecting the way is was naturally designed to work. My ears are pierced and I can still hear. If you have been following on this forum, every woman who has undergone FGM does not feel her sex organ is functioning at it's original state after the procedure.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 00:31:18 10/19/07 ()
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Erica,
I bet, I could also state that I do not feel sex the same way about sex after I had undergone male circumcision. Oops, I wouldn't know since I was a baby boy when they did it.
My whole beef about this FGC thing is why don't they talk about the male version?
Is it because male circumcision is also practiced in western societies? If that's the case, then leave our uncivillised, barbaric cultures alone. People are meant to practice things differently according to their cultural norms.
To me, discussing FGC seems biased.
If you can allow men to perform male circumcission according to their cultural beliefs, then why not women according to each tribal cultural beliefs?
Some argue that the elders performing the process are not using hygeinic tools, therefore the initiates are more susceptible to HIV/AIDS and other diseases.
But, it is the same people that assists as midwives during births in the villages. So these village midwives use the same tools to cut placenta and the like in order to deliver babies, but when it comes to FGC they're incompetent to use sterilized tools.
What about male elders that are performing Male Circumcision in these villages, are they more medically servy that no one is opposing? Biased, if you ask me.
APPLY THE SAME RULES TO EVERYTHING SIMILAR, then you won't have opposition.
Just try to write or better yet have agenda to ban CIRCUMCISSION including MALE CIRCUMCISSION and see what comes up from western (because it affects the west also)societies.
My belief is that the native tribal heads should decide what is deemed to be their Tradition Culture.
We have paramount chiefs and their wives and advisers in the provinces, and Tribal Chiefs (Hade man) in Freetown to decide what is deemed good for their tribal beliefs.
Please LET US ALL LEAVE these circumcission/mutilation issues ALONE. FGC or lack of is not detrimental to the WELLBEING of mother SALONE.
Discuss issues that the country will gain from.
Just imagine.............
You came out from WAR. You have no meaningful job. You can't feed your family with even two cups of rice. You are thinking, "How will I send my children to School?"
Then.............
Out of the blue, someone comes to you and starts talking about FGC, instead of advising you or training you and supporting in making ends meet.
What will you say........ BO COMOT BIFOE ME DO!!!!!
Lets help to make their ends meet. Lets help ERADICATE POVERTY, by making the Nation thrive. LETs put our effort in providing economic avenues where they'll win and we also will win.
All the energy and effort on FGC mantras and research could be used for better purposes in economically improving the society. It could be used to improve CORRUPTION PERCEPTION.
A learned female professor wrote and boasted, that she will be in F/T this December to fight FGC.
That really breaks my heart.
I was having a dream that, she will take all what she's learnt from the USA and go and instead try to ERADICATE CORRUPTION or at least use the resources for minimising corruption. 'Cause CORRUPTION is what is currently the cancer in our society. First thing first.
Ar Nor geh natin foh eat now, tok bot how ar go geh ting foh eat.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 00:57:47 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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This whole debate got started because one Sierra Leonean woman stated she had been through this process and didn't like what she believed it did to her sex drive. I supported her then and I support her now. You can call me western, ignorant, and disrepectful, but the fact remains that I'm entitled to my opinion. Since this is a public forum, I will just say again we can agree to disagree.
P.S. In addition to all the areas of importance you have outlined, why can't this issue be important to Mbalu too. In a democratic society, are only the issues that some outline important and who gets to be the decision maker about what's important?
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: WISE WOMAN
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Date Posted: 01:31:01 10/19/07 ()
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Erica, it is true that Mbalu made that statement. Her statement may be true. May be there are other factors responsible for that and not the FGM. There are many NON FGM women in both the West and other places that hate sex or do not derive pleasure from sex like other. There are also some FGM women who are having "a ball" with their partners in bed. And therefore, to generalize that FGM IS THE MAIN CAUSE FOR SEXUAL DISPLEASURE IS UNFOUNDED AND MISPLACED.
WHAT ABOUT ALL THESE WESTERN WOMEN WHO GO TO SEX THERAPIST? IS IT BECAUSE THEY NOM FGM? ONE CAN NOT SAY THAT. WHAT ABOUT THOSE WHO EVEN DECIDE TO HATE MEN AND ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH MEN, BECAUSE OF PAST EXPERIENCES, THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FGM? WHAT ABOUT THOSE WHO LIKES ONLY THE SAME SEX RELATIONSHIP? IS IT DUE TO FGM OR NOT? YOU SEE, THERE ARE MANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 08:03:53 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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Thank you very much, Wise Woman. You are indeed wise. Narrow minds are difficult to crack. But thanks
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 01:28:10 10/19/07 ()
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Erica,
First things first!!!!!!
I'm at the bottom of the UN Human Index not because of FGC. Bring me up from the cesspit (bottom) of the UN Human Index, by providing means to do that Or join the band wagon of those who are doing so, and you'd have made my day.
No where currently have majority of Sierra Leoneans suffered en masse due to FGM (I've not heard about it so much pronouncely like POVERTY), but that Cesspit makes all of us suffer.
Divert the energy to the Eradication of Poverty or Minimising Corruption or ECONOMIC EMPOWERMENT issues.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 08:19:28 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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Message:
Great point, Babbob. Those who are crying about FGC should show us they care about human social problems by addressing poverty. No, they won't because their underlying objective is not about FGC, but about eradicating other human cultures so that only their own will survive on earth.
Take the Europeans, for example. When they went around the world as missionaries, colonial msters, traders etc. they never tried to learn or promote the languages and cultures of the people they came across. Instead, they imposed their own cultures and languages on the MAJORITY they came across.
For example, imagine how many Indians the British met in India. Yet they did not care to make Hindu the prime language or cultural value in India. Instead, they made English the main language so that all the millions of Indians would look up to them (the few British colonialists), and their values while abanding their own.
Today, English is spoken all over the world, that's always what the English wanted. Not that they wanted to "civilize people" people, but to dominate their culture and, if possible, eradicate them. Where are the American Indians today.
Now they are going around trying to eradicate FGC in other people's cultures, yet still they have and accept FGP and male circumcision in their own cultures. If they are against "circumcision", then let them be against "ALL" circumcisions not selected some based on their personal interests, likes or dislikes.
This is going to be my last. I think I have quietly convinced Mbalu, that's why she has conveniently chosen to be absent in this debate.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 00:42:54 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
You actually made my night with this argument. I love it. You are soooo right. I shall respond to it some more tomorrow. I am going to bed now. Hopefully Mabalu will join in tomorrow. I am on the East coast.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Fallacy!
To: All
Date Posted: 00:26:13 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-233-244-59.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.233.244.59
Message:
You have just made a fallacious statement. And this is it "every woman who has undergone FGM does not feel her sex organ is functioning at its original state after the procedure."
That is not true. It is not every woman that have undergone FGM feel so. On the entire Forum, only two claimed so and the 3rd. lady is a Gborkabana.
Erica, can you undertake a study of selected FGM women and non FGM women from different tribes, in different countries to proof or disproof all the assertions that the proponents of "ANTI FGM" are making? The study will have to be a longitudinal one for it to be valid. Until then, you are just blowing hot air.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 00:51:33 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
I totally agree with you. That is the most falacious argument of all. I know so bcause I will never say that about my FGC wife. I have had both FGC and non FGC wives (not just women),in my life, and they are the SAME, responded the same to me all the time. I can authoritatively say so.
In fact, what I know is that non FGM women with ultra high libido get to be very voracious and are quick to get satisfied and then turn over and go to sleep for the night. If you the man, want some more, forget it. But with the FGM woman, believe me, if you have "STAY POWER", only you, the man, can give up unless she just doesn't want to such as because of having worked all day.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 00:48:12 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
If I can clarify my statement.
Not every woman who has undergone FGM feels her sex organ is functioning at its original state after the procedure.
I hope that clears things up.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 00:55:51 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
Understand that we are all humans but we all don't perform at the same level. We all don't have the same strength. There are weak and powerful men and women when it comes to bed. The libidos are not the same because of differences in the biological make up. I don' think its largely because of FGC or non FGC.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 23:10:14 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
Is there? What is the ultimate result in both circumstances? AN EAR GETS PIERCED IN BOTH CASES, PERIOD!!!
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 22:21:23 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-68-49-178-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 68.49.178.95
Message:
They fall in the catigory of fruits. They both juicy. That analogy is getting old. Baboo and Monkey sound better. apples and oranges is for the west. I am from Africa. Insane I am.
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or PPP
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 21:48:57 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-68-49-178-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 68.49.178.95
Message:
Because men have nuts
Subject: Re: Respect Other Cultures...Change FGM To FGC Or FGP
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 21:36:48 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
Correction to the Subject header. I mant to write FGP (Female Genital Piercing)
Subject: Mballu is becoming a nonentity in her bid for FGM radication
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 19:16:21 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: smtpgateway.azdes.gov at 207.108.136.243
Message:
Mballu, if you are serious about leading the fight against FGM in Sierra Leone and expect a good result, you need to change your negative attitude about other people. Yes, it true that when you want to get a crock out of the river, you need to encourage it to come upland. This is how leaders work. On the contrary, you are here to fight against your critics. Bad idea. Don't become like John Leigh in his first years in this forum. JEL is very matured and smart, but his too much talks made him irrelevant to many forumites. Please refrain from decrying people who decry you. Otherwise, you are no different from those you decry.
Subject: Re: Mballu is becoming a nonentity in her bid for FGM radication
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 20:26:21 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-85-100-34.hsd1.de.comcast.net at 68.85.100.34
Message:
Mr. POLITICAL,
Thanks for your constructive comments, well taken.
However, we are S/Leoneans and I for one know how to handle my brothers and sisters depending on the direction a debate takes and the dictates of my reasonable assessments. I did my sixth form in an all boys school, I was in the thick of affairs when FBC Students Union needed a resuscitation during my time at Aureol, and I have spent over ten years in NYC. In a nut-shell, I am not your everyday woman. I am a very strong woman with tremendous self confidence. I can be out there with the guys and no one intimidates me. Sometimes it is absolutely necessary to respond to people in the same language they speak. For the most part, I am diplomatic in my approach to people and of course I am very humble and respectful. But when my buttons are pushed, I can be feisty.
Again, I will be in Freetown over the x-mas break and I will be pushing the FGM issue as far as I can go. I did my research and continue to do it. The various exchanges in this forum since I launched the debate are part of my research. No idea is too small or too big. But any fitiyae bobor go know say Mbalu nor dae take mess.
I will fully fund my endeavors using my personal money. Some folks made crazy comments about the salary of a college prof., but forget to ask me how much money I have or if I have any other sources of income. It goes to reveal how shallow people think. I am not rich but definitely rich by S/L standards and I can proudly re-state that I have enough to be included in the group of the financially stable here in America. Thats all. I need any moral help that anyone can offer.
Again, Big-ups Lady J and Erica and others that support me. Thank you.
Subject: Re: Mballu is becoming a nonentity in her bid for FGM radication
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 21:08:46 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-149-33.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.149.33
Message:
Mbalu,
You've got the intellect of an Ivy Leaguer and the feisty toughness of a ghetto hoochie...a very sexy combo. "You gets down, baby!"
I'm gonna be in F/Town during the X-mas break and will be gunning for you like a heat-seeking missile. I and my team will be on the look-out for any JC anti-FGM crusader because you already got me stewing in my special juices. If you are as passionate a lover as you are with your crusade, OH BABY!
You and I have a rendezvous with sweet, gentle, sensuous, smooching destiny, dearie. Beds are gonna explode in Freetown! I'm a master PUA. You are mine baby, and I, yours.
Subject: Re: Mballu is becoming a nonentity in her bid for FGM radication
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:17:25 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Somtin Butu,
Thanks Baby, I love you too.
Don't you think then that I should have your name?:)
Just kidding, have a great weekend.
Subject: Re: Mballu is becoming a nonentity in her bid for FGM radica
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 23:43:14 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: saigobe@lanset.com
Entered From: pool-71-179-99-138.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net at 71.179.99.138
Message:
Somtin Butu,
You are trash!
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: Mballu is becoming a nonentity in her bid for FGM radica
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 04:52:17 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-149-33.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.149.33
Message:
Yaya Fanusie,
How ba, you dae jelos?
Mbalu nar me baby-O, nor go near dae O!
Somtin Butu!
Subject: Re: Mballu is becoming a nonentity in her bid for FGM radication
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 20:58:14 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-68-49-178-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 68.49.178.95
Message:
The problem you are having is the inconsistencies in your statements. Do you remember your first statement in this forum about FGM?. IF I can remember, you said all the men were leaving you because you went to bondo and they cut your tin correct? There was no memtioned that you were about to do a research. As a professor, is that the way to start a research project? when some of us stated to respond, you start terrorizing every one of us that was negative towards your topic.
Now you have turned 360 degrees on us. You are now doing a rearch on this issue. My question to you now is, did you find a man and if so what is his opeion on this issue?. You see I am trying to be nice towards you because you will not win the fight but if this is for a research project we will give you our honest openion for us the uneducated once.
Just for the record please stop telling us about your education, some of you don't give a hoot about that. Here in America, you do not have to be well educated to be reach a la Bill Gate. You do not know the background for most of us. We might be crazy and have no brain left in us but we are alive and kicking.
I think you should have started by saying that you were aboout to do some findings on this FGM because you probably were very little when you went but now that you have got your act together, you think it is wrong. I would have been one of the first person to support you even though my mother is a degba.
My suggestion to you is to change the heading of this whole debate and see how the topic can be handle differntly. I am still a gay and Insane.
Subject: Re: Mballu is becoming a nonentity in her bid for FGM radication
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 21:13:54 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-149-33.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.149.33
Message:
"I am still a gay and Insane".---Sadam Insane.
REALLY?
Subject: Re: Mballu is becoming a nonentity in her bid for FGM radication
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 21:47:24 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-68-49-178-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 68.49.178.95
Message:
How ba you wan fen me plaba? Or you na gay too. If so bring it on sun shine!
Subject: Re: Mballu is becoming a nonentity in her bid for FGM radication
From: ON THE RAMPGE
To: All
Date Posted: 21:48:27 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
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Subject: Re: Mballu is becoming a nonentity in her bid for FGM radication
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 21:55:30 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-68-49-178-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 68.49.178.95
Message:
You made me laugh my nuts off. That was so good.
Subject: JOHN BENJAMIN AS PARTY LEADER? WITHER AWAY, SLPP.
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 17:48:09 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Did some one nominate John Benjamin on this forum for SLPP leadership? John Benjamin may have a pronounceable name, but the texture of his character is ill-suited for political party leadership. From the early 1990s when he served Valentine Strasser to date, John Benjamin has fashioned and refashioned himself so many times that the man cannot avoid being called a political hustler. Mr. Benjamin's readiness to hawk his wares as a political hustler is, however, the least worry I have about him. The Segbwema case in which he acted as prime mover behind the attack on Ernest Koroma during the presidential campaign, revealed a deadlier side of Mr. Benjamin. Political violence is nothing new in Sierra Leone. However, I was under the mistaken view that a man of John Benjamin's stature can be finicky enough to avoid being a warrior in circumstances where brains are needed. I was wrong!
Had the clashes in Segbwema claimed the life of {candidate} Koroma, Johns Benjamin and Karimu would have stood accused of starting fires they cannot extinguish. The battle for the presidency is not a war of attrition to be prosecuted with ambushes and cutlasses. Political opponents should be attacked with a superiority of ideas rather than a crudity of ambushes. In democratic politics, it is fairly acceptable to magnify an opponent's weakness, turn it into a scandal, and attempt to drag his name through the muddiest dirt. Physical attacks are simply unthinkable. A man that plots bodily injury against his opponent should not lead a political party in a country that has always known violence.
Political hustlers are job seekers rather than servants of their nation{s}. If President Koroma were to dangle prospects for an "oily" job in front of John Benjamin, the man will disrobe himself of his SLPP colors and join the APC as though he never knew a party called the SLPP. Once in power, people like Benjamin tend to insulate themselves with a batch of hangers-on. Well-meaning citizens will be eased out of the decision making process even when the need for realism is desperate. Tejan Kabbah ruled like that, and in the interest of our country, John Benjamin should not be inflicted on the SLPP as party leader.
Subject: Re: JOHN BENJAMIN AS PARTY LEADER? WITHER AWAY, SLPP.
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 21:25:43 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-149-33.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.149.33
Message:
Clear, lucid, cogent....definitely presidential material! One fine day, you will run for president and I will be right by your side, my friend, fundraising and campaigning for you. One day, Bra Enviable, One day!
Subject: Re: JOHN BENJAMIN AS PARTY LEADER? WITHER AWAY, SLPP.
From: You must be kidding!
To: All
Date Posted: 00:04:58 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
"Clear, lucid, cogent....definitely presidential material!"
You're kidding right? Bra Enviable for president? The fellow makes Alan keys, the know-it-all presidential candidate, appears like child play.
Subject: Re: JOHN BENJAMIN AS PARTY LEADER? WITHER AWAY, SLPP.
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 04:53:57 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-149-33.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.149.33
Message:
So, What's youy point?
Subject: Re: JOHN BENJAMIN AS PARTY LEADER? WITHER AWAY, SLPP.
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 04:58:44 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-149-33.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.149.33
Message:
So, What's youy point?
Dear Mammy Blessing,
I'm sure that you wanted to write:
"So, what's your point?"
Sorry.. just trying to be helpful.
Fen Plaba!
Subject: Re: JOHN BENJAMIN AS PARTY LEADER? WITHER AWAY, SLPP.
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 05:02:19 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-149-33.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.149.33
Message:
One of these days, ar go kaitch U nar fityie kornah. Wait nor mor!
Thanks for the grammar correction, buddy
MB.
Subject: Re: JOHN BENJAMIN AS PARTY LEADER? WITHER AWAY, SLPP.
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 13:38:41 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 66.250.191.180
Message:
MB, you grammar correct. Di borbor just poil you good english!! It is always fun to read your postings!!!!!!
Subject: FODAY MANSARAY???????
From: SHOW US YOUR CREDENTIALS!!!!
To: All
Date Posted: 17:25:51 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
FODAY PROOF YOUR CRITICS WRONG. POST ON THIS FORUM WHAT YOU GOT THAT QUALIFIES YOU FOR THE DEPUTY GOVERNORSHIP. IT NOT JUST TO THAT "HE IS NICE, HE IS KIND, HE IS PATRIOTIC ETC. SHOW US. PROOF YOUR CRITICKS WRONG PLEASE. FREE YOURSELF MR. MANSARAY. YOUR REPUTATION IS AT STAKE!!!
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY???????
From: Pa. Sandie
To: All
Date Posted: 18:47:48 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
He can't show us because he dont have any. I think he is dreaming to be appointed deputy bank governor. Let us dont waste our time, because EBK will NEVER appoint Foday as deputy bank governor.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY???????
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:44:00 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Let us first of all see what credentials mean because what you might understand about credentials is different from what the government might consider.
Credentials:
1. That which entitles one to confidence, credit, or authority.
2. Credentials Evidence or testimonials concerning one's right to credit, confidence, or authority: The new ambassador presented her credentials to the president.
Therefore, if you are anticipating the probability for the President to appoint him to such a position, psychologically, you might have thought highly of him. Then he has credence within your inexpressive psychic. That is from a psychological perspective.
Haven said that, I thought it fit to make one or two observations regarding this matter because many people, globally, are going wrong in this area without knowing it. Rather than impress, as that might be their goal, they expose their ignorance of what government is and capable of by judging base on their belief systems or the way they were brought-up to believe outside the moral confines of global beliefs or the beliefs outside their subcultures.
Do you actually know the said person, by knowing not just seeing them but have a thorough knowledge of their background or are you just talking presumptively based on what others have said or what you presume he is capable and incapable of doing considering primarily, your sub-cultural belief system?
Is it that he doesn't want to show us his credentials because he feels he doesn't need to prove himself to us but the President and the government, and the only thing he needs to show is his competence in performing his duties or is this just your perception of what might prevent him from showing you, because most of us are not interested in his credentials for the fact that, if we are anticipating that a President might appoint him in that capacity then that is satisfactory to suggested that there are formidable potentials that are equivalent to the credentials we desire to see proof of otherwise, we might not think of him in that fashion?
I have been amazed at how people are so sure about what others think or might do. What amazes me more is the authoritative nature they speak about what they perceive would be other peoples' opinion about issues.
We are talking about a President here and you have never held a tête-à-tête with the President to know what he might think or do about the said situation but are categorically and emphatically, authoritatively for that matter, stating with confidence as though you have had talks with the President, who told you that that is what he is going to do.
This is why when a government/governments are involved in an issue and I see certain people playing folly, I shake my head in wonder as to how callous people can be. This situation is unrelated but nonetheless, a President is not a joke. So we must wait to see if the President appoints him. If he does, be rest assured that he has credentials that qualify's him. We are basically guessing here, which qualifies the precinct of limbo as far as knowledge of the said person’s credentials or the President’s opinion of him. I do not believe and will never be convinced that you have the merits to challenge what the President’s opinion of him is. Therefore, whether or not he shows or proves himself to you does not matter in any way because you are in no authority do otherwise if the President and the government is satisfied; do you? Therefore, why can’t we concentrate on what our personal futures might be as whether or not he is qualified is not going to add a speck to a status in Sierra Leone or where ever we are. I see it as a waste of precious time to go out looking for people might or might have not accomplished when their issues are before a government, and the President for that matter
It bewilders me to see how certain people are so sure that they know more about other people, want to know more about other people though such efforts will not add a cubic to their heights.
People who know about governments, knowing that certain issues are in front of these governments, if it does not affect them directly, would mind their business.
Subject: Linking Websites
From: Lawrence Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 17:25:12 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: lawrence@lumleybeach.com
Entered From: at 84.54.30.6
Message:
I am a sierra Leone and I am suggesting that you link www.swissworld.org in your website as it has a lot of resources and things to learn about switzerland that is useful to students and people from different works of life.
Subject: This site is under construction.
From: Muck
To: All
Date Posted: 16:55:01 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: s0106001731677de8.wp.shawcable.net at 24.79.65.27
Message:
This site is under construction. Any opinion, suggestion or comment? I am developing this site for a sierra Leonean business man. Please note that content on the site is a demo.
Click: www.luckysib.com/osc
Subject: Re: This site is under construction.
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 17:06:25 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
If this Sierra Leonean businessman is going to be doing business in Sierra Leone, this pic probably must go.
Subject: Re: This site is under construction.
From: Muck
To: All
Date Posted: 17:22:36 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: s0106001731677de8.wp.shawcable.net at 24.79.65.27
Message:
Also don’t forget, this is an eCommerce application
Subject: Re: This site is under construction.
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 18:16:25 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
Enviable layout, warm and cool colors. And oh, the sans-serif fonts works out perfectly "ON" the menu. IMPRESSIVE!!!
Subject: Re: This site is under construction.
From: Muck
To: All
Date Posted: 17:19:39 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: s0106001731677de8.wp.shawcable.net at 24.79.65.27
Message:
Thanks for your comment
He is going to be using his wife's Picture there. i just used my design and created a template for him. We may also have to increase the font size on the word "International Boutique" and some other changes as well. Thanks though!
Subject: This site is under construction
From: Muck
To: All
Date Posted: 16:49:22 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: s0106001731677de8.wp.shawcable.net at 24.79.65.27
Message:
This site is under construction. Any opinion, suggestion or comment? I am developing this site for a sierra Leonean business man. Please note that content on the site is a demo.
Click:luckysib.com/osc
Subject: KHANJI DARAMY- WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?
From: Crawo
To: All
Date Posted: 16:44:04 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: crawo@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
You mean Khanji Daramy still wants to serve a President he criticized as uneducated and knows nothing about development?
Why cant we have some pride and know when it is time to say goodbye?
Subject: Re: KHANJI DARAMY- WHEN ARE YOU LEAVING?
From: KD
To: All
Date Posted: 07:16:36 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
Pas aa die
Subject: CAN SOMEONE HELP MY SITUATION????
From: Salone Man
To: All
Date Posted: 16:13:11 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: imtu71@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-255-153-112.cncdnh.east.verizon.net at 71.255.153.112
Message:
I have a burning situation and I'm in desperate need for help. I entered the U.S. as an international student and I've pursued my studies in Business Administration till my 4th year. I dropped out during my final semester due to economic hardship. However, I've been married to a U.S. citizen who is sincerely willing to help me out but the only problem is that she didn't make sufficient finance the previous year inorder to file an affidavits for me.I contacted the INS and I was told to find a Co-Sponsor. My wife has 3 children plus her and I which makes 5 in the family. I'll greatly appreciate if someone could help out with the affidavits of support within 125% poverty guideline. I'm willing to meet any reasonable demand requested in return for the favor. Please help a brother out of this situation.
Subject: Re: CAN SOMEONE HELP MY SITUATION????
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 16:44:41 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
Do you or your wife have a relative who meets the guidelines? We've helped relatives who don't meet the guidelines. My advice would be to deal with family. You don't want to have your immigration issues tied to others who may not have your best interest at heart or who may make you jump through hoops to get what you need.
Subject: Re: CAN SOMEONE HELP MY SITUATION????
From: Salone Man
To: All
Date Posted: 17:24:14 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: imtu71@hotmail.com
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Message:
We've had relatives that tried to help but didn't qualify because of the amount which is roughly about $35,000 per year for a family of 5. I also appreciate your advise but I'm running out of time.
Subject: Re: CAN SOMEONE HELP MY SITUATION????
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 19:22:15 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: aiscandari@aol.com
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Message:
call 510 615 6000 or write aiscandari@aol.com
Subject: Re: CAN SOMEONE HELP MY SITUATION????
From: Salone Man
To: All
Date Posted: 06:58:28 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: imtu71@hotmail.com
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Message:
Please expect my call in few hours.
Subject: FGM DEBATE IN SIERRA LEONE
From: A WISE WOMAN TO MBALU
To: All
Date Posted: 15:48:15 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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WHEN YOU COME BACK FROM SIERRA LEONE, PLEASE SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH US. I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE GOOD, BUT ALL THE BEST. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU TAKE THE DEBATE "FACE ON" WITH THOSE TRIBES AND AREAS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PRACTISING FGM. DO NOT JUST CONCENTRATE THE DEBATE ON THE NON FGM TRIBES AND OR AREAS!
I HOPE THAT NOBODY WILL PHYSICALLY MANHANDLE YOU IN THE PROVINCES. TRAVEL ARROUND THE COUTRY DEBATING IT AND ONCE AGAIN GOOD LUCK!
Subject: Re: FGM DEBATE IN SIERRA LEONE
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 16:18:02 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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I find it very hard to enter such a debate. in my cultural anthropology class of 1990, I was made to talk on a few subjects over the course of six months - among them was two important ones - to cut or not to cut and Born Gay. The latter I found out through available research was not a cultural custruct but a biological. The former - SUNNA - was a social custruct to keep jobs for the older women and also to reduce the sexual drives of young women. Where do I stand in the former? I am either way!! my grandmother was a Ya Bai and she performed this on so many young women - no shame in this as it was the parents of the soety she was in that trusted her to perform such. I tried to talk to her about it during my research on the subject but she told me it is not a man's thing. I explained to her what my role was - she was furious. I abandon the subject and I did not mention it again. My regret is that i did not push her to the extreme - she is now gone and what she held on SUNNA is also gone.
The subject as i mentioned earlier is a social custom, not a religious practice. However, in those Muslim countries where it is practice, SUNNA or the more extreme 'cut' (FGM) is often justified by a controversial saying attributed to the Prophet Mohammed that seem to favour sunna circumcision involving minor cutting of the clitoris. The authenticity of these sayings are unconfirmed, and some scholars have refuted them. Even if true, they only permit the practice; they do not mandate it.
FGM has probably been performed for at least 1,400 years (some references estimate 2,000 years), and started during what Muslims call "al-gahiliyyah" (the era of ignorance). The Qu'r'an, Hebrew scr1ptures (Old Testament) and Christian scr1ptures (New Testament) is silent on the subject. The Sunnah (the words and actions of the Prophet Mohammed) contains a reference to female circumcision.
"Those who advocate for FGM from an Islamic perspective commonly quote the following hadith to argue that it is required as part of the Sunnah or Tradition of the Prophet:
'Um Atiyyat al-Ansariyyah said: A woman used to perform circumcision in Medina. The Prophet (pbuh) said to her: Do not cut too severely as that is better for a woman and more desirable for a husband'." 1,8
It is a topic I cannot place myself on a particular/specific ambit. I pray we try to understand why the 'others' want the cultures that practice such to stop it! Why do they continue to pierce every part of their bodies?
I think we should look for a middle ground - let it be a matter of choice by a participating adult and not authorised by an adult on an infant/child.
We should not abandon our traditions - let our cultures be preserved!!
Subject: SAHR kAINGBANJA!
From: Paul Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 15:30:28 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: paulbangura2004@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-71-197-97-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.97.158
Message:
Posted by Paul Bangura on October 18, 2007 at 13:01:53:
In Reply to: SAHR KAINGBANJA posted by NAMWENCHE-SAYNANH on October 17, 2007 at 18:05:17:
This is the greatest unfairness a national can do to another national. WHY SALONE MAN NOR GO LEF FOR BE SMALL?
Mr, try to have something great in your mind when you get to this forum where very much is expected from users or contributors. This is disappointing about a Sierra Leonean with a decent up-bringing. You look like one of us back-yard guys who take pleasure in bringing down people. You can be sure that you will not succeed with this fine man, who is full of great things for the country you think you so love.
This guy is lovely; he has the desire and passion to see our likes improve so that we will turn our backs at doing unprogressive things-like going down so low as to insult people. You are a disappointment to that growing nation. Watch your words and be a good learner.
Sahr Kaingbanja is occupied with very important issues ( as I write this mail for the forum) about our country and I am sure you cannot derail that which he is doing with your peety talks. This fine guy is passing around in Sacramento doing no harm to even you who has chosen to insult him.
However, thank God he is here and some of us have been able to associate with him. If you know him really well, you need to come back to this same forum and appologize for your bad mouth. Kaingbanja is a blessing for those of us who know him. With his presence here in Sacramento, we have been able to learn greatly from him. He is an embodiment of knowlege who passes around unassumingly that you need to come close to so that you can share a gist of what he knows. You need to get close to him for you to know what I am writing. After knowing what some of us have known about him, you will slap yourself for being too small in your mind. You have really refused to grow.
I am not praising him; I am telling you the truth about this man who has love and passion for even those who do not like him, like YOU.
Thanks to brother allieu who is a legal-minded senior brother in the area and has told you that his association with the infamous regime does not make him criminally liable for any offense.
Please know this too. On his way out of Sierra Leone, he applied for visa; went for interview and was issued a visa to travel to this great nation to study. He has completed what you can't, I emphasize, CAN NEVER acquire in your life, by the way I have assessed you.
God who created us has passion for us,and becuase He created us in his own image, he (God)expects us to do likewise to our fellowmen, His creations. We don't damn others when we don't know them.
Look at who he is staying with, bra Allieu refers to him as an icon. If you know what that means, you should start going away from this kind of attitude-insulting people just because you are in America and have access to a computer you can use to insult people. This which you are doing to this man is equal to what the SLPP did to our people in Sierra Leone. Don't you know that? If you don't, then exert some more effort to know it, and don't insult this harmless and progressive man who means well for even you. Nobody holds anything against him in Salone, except your likes who will come out immaturely to damn others. This is unfair. I believe you do talk to him each time you see him in Sacramento and San Jose but will come behind his back to stab him. I predict, the same will be done to you in a not too distant future. People will damn you. This guy is too nice to be treated the way you are doing. Thank God, he is safe in the hands of Jesus. Many other people will tell this forum good things about this selfless man.
He has not stayed too long in the US but within this time of his stay here, he has tried to excel himself in what you and I cannot do. Just touch closer to him and you will feel the love he has for his fellow man; you will feel intelligence radiating from him; you will sense decency and straight-forwardness in a fine human being. He is not a thief, and not a killer. He is a devoted Christian with an appreciable degree of moral standing you can envy.
After all, there was a reconciliation talk for all of us so that we can be able to forge ahead as a nation. What did you understand by that? My brother, the AFRC was better than SLPP by my own assessment. If an infamous regime was able to provide electricity for the people in Freetown (where their activities were confined or rather limited) 24/7 for all the time they stayed in their so-called power, and the most popular SLPP could not until when there were elections around the corner, then I must praise people like Sahr Kaingbanja who lived in that government.
Can't you see? Open your eyes to see what lies ahead of us as a people of the world's most backward nation. Let us embrace one another so that we can take that country out from its present state to some enviable position. We have the human resources to do it if we do away with the kind of thinking people like you have. Do not judge the man by the government he served; judge him by his actions, by what he did. I think that will be human and can be acceptable by any right-thinking man. DON'T USE THE FORUM TO INSULT. If you know Pastor Ansu, talk to him about this man; I believe he is the Pastor's body and knows him better. Take that route, and not your INS who knows why the man is here and what good things he has done and is doing for the short time he has been here in the US.
Let me hold my breath for now and ask you to go back to this same forum you have used to insult this man to ask God for forgiveness. Go to the forum and send him an appology. I have told you that you cannot do an iota of what this guy is doing for our beloved nation. He does not talk, he acts. He moves around Sacramento with ideas of development, as to how we can, as a nation, walk out of poverty- TO MAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO STOP DOING DOUBLES IN NURSING HOMES OR....
Do you know that Kabbah who was President of Sierra Leone is a candidate for war crimes? I know you have been told this but you decided to come to the forum with unprogressive things to attract attention. This is unacceptable. Run away from this kind of attitude; it is of the devil. If you don't I will come down hard and make your true name known so that people will know that you are no good living thing that means well for others.
Follow Ups:
Subject: What happen to Bio's agricultural investments in Ghana?
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:26:07 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.243.137.231
Message:
During his tenure of office, Maada Bio was reported to have syphoned a lot of funds from state coffers so were others. The proceeds of these were invested in Ghana.
He was said to have opened a huge agricultural complex employing Ghanains.
Today, Bio is back in Sierra Leone to fight for power. To be honest, I have very little knowledge of these reports.
Could people who happen to associate themselves with these people shed some light into this? so we know exactly what's happening
Subject: Re: What happen to Bio's agricultural investments in Ghana?
From: Ibrahim Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 15:45:17 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: imtu71@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-255-153-112.cncdnh.east.verizon.net at 71.255.153.112
Message:
The last info I got was that he was grossly indebted due to government taxes. Since Rawlings was a close allied of his, he was granted the priviledges of tax exemption. Once the new government took over, the tax blanket was revoked and was forced to file for bankruptcy.
Subject: Re: What happen to Bio's agricultural investments in Ghana?
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:55:13 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
If all said is true, don't you think he should be investigated?
Subject: Re: What happen to Bio's agricultural investments in Ghana?
From: Curiousman
To: All
Date Posted: 07:27:36 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Investigated for what???for having investment in Ghana or for having links with Rawlings or for filing bankruptcy in Ghana???
Subject: Re: What happen to Bio's agricultural investments in Ghana?
From: FAD
To: All
Date Posted: 12:19:35 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: arlynd@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 65.91.143.30
Message:
well well well, Maada Bio told us on radio(FM 98.1) in salone when he was running for flag bearer of the SLPP that he has never been to/in Ghana contrary to what people have been saying about him.
so it is up to him.
NAR IM LOSSES N NAR IM PROFIT.
Subject: THE TRANSITION TEAM IA AS ITS NAME IMPLIES TRANSITIONAL
From: tataisu
To: All
Date Posted: 15:22:07 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: tataisu@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
The Transitional team is as its name implies is transitional. The State House Website should be the website of the Office of the President and not the Transitional Team. We expected much from you.
Subject: Talk is Over! Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development -SLID
From: Patrick S. Bockari
To: All
Date Posted: 14:21:52 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: patbock48@yahoo.com
Entered From: pat.fwhq2nat.dot.ca.gov at 64.174.7.191
Message:
Dear Fellow Citizens of Sierra Leone:
NOTE OF CAUTION: [If you are one of those "pessimistic Nay Sayers" full of negativity, and believe that Sierra Leone will never boldly develop or afford modern highways & roads, or ever get adequate electricity, water supply, the Lungi Bridge, and all the other great things that bring immigrants to the USA, Europe, Australia, China, Canada, and other developed countries, THEN DON'T BOTHER TO WRITE TO US. We need those who have something positive to add to our proposal, or constructively point our problems with our proposals. You will one day see this plan implemented!]
http://www.ivnps.com/SLID.HTML
Many suggested that I share my proposals with the government. I did not feel then that the SLPP government was up to the task. Well, in partnership with another brilliant citizen, Sahr K. Kaingbanja, we have the "Sierra Leone's Infrastructure Development Plan" drafted. Below is a web link to summary excerpts of the draft plan. EVERY SIERRA LEONE CITIZEN IS INVITED TO JOIN THIS PARTNERSHIP FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR COUNTRY. All the terms and conditions are still being worked out. But we need your comments and suggestions. Go to the link below for details:
The files are about 5 MB each and will each take 3 to 4 minutes to download. If you are a computer wiz, tell me how to improve the access. I have the document in Published 2003. We are looking forward to your constructive comments and suggestions. The summary proposal is on its way to the government in Freetown, and there is no turning back.
Thank you, Patrick S. Bockari, Senior Partner, SLID.
http://www.ivnps.com/SLID.HTML
Subject: Re: Talk is Over! Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development -SLID
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 22:15:07 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
After work today, I browsed through your document. I think that the two of you will be seen as the “Mulhollands” of Sierra Leone. You will go down in history as visionaries. I hope that the government will see this project and work with you to work towards a “BOLD REFORM.” You have done your research and planning. To be candid, some MPs, ministers and heads of department lack such vision.
There are 3 types of people on in this world. Type A, B and C.
1. Type "A" people are those who can THINK, PLAN and IMPLEMENT the plan.
2. Type "B" people are those who can not THINK, but can PLAN and IMPLEMENT what others Think.
3. TYPE "C" people are those who can not THINK, PLAN but, can IMPLEMENT what others THINK and PLAN.
I pray to the almighty that our leaders will be one of these types of people.
Subject: Re: Talk is Over! Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development -SLID
From: Patrick Bockari
To: All
Date Posted: 03:17:41 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: patbock48@yahoo.com
Entered From: 74-37-103-11.dsl1.ekgv.ca.frontiernet.net at 74.37.103.11
Message:
I can't thank everybody enough on this and other forums that have praised our hard work on the "Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development Proposal." We are continuing work on the Power Point Presentation that provides more galaring details. If the government fails to see this proposal for what it is, we will lobby and secure an agreement on a funding mechanism that the government will accept. Sierra Leone belongs to all of us, and we are no nonger going to sit by and allow the degrading and inhuman poverty prevailing in the country to continue while billions of dollars of our resources are being traded under grossly unfair and senseless agreements. I need to go to bed. Good nite everyone!
Subject: Re: Talk is Over! Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development -SLID
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 21:49:44 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-132-17-230.range86-132.btcentralplus.com at 86.132.17.230
Message:
Very impressive and promisingly reealistic. Pat and Co. Please note that a similar proposal was tabled before kabba and his cronies took it to the African Development bank and got one million dollars to do a feasibility sudy - nothing came out of it. Chief Kom kanda had this dream of seeing a bridge linking Freetown and Lungi - In the previous proposal the whole of the Lungi coast line was to be transformed into major industiral and commercial sites. the part of grafton was to also house industries and another terminal.
It is said that our leaders do not recognise the hard work of true and patriotic sierra leoneans. i pray Ernest and his team will include you in this venture. Similar gradeur projects are lying about in their offices. I pray your outfit can get the backing of the government.
Subject: Re: Talk is Over! Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development -SLID
From: Jay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:49:51 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
To say you guys are visionaries,would be an understatement.I hope your ideas are picked up by the current government.Nice job.
Another addition would be development of ecotourism which would help project our image abroad and thus bring in investors.
Also,how about the use of landfill decomposition which produces methane gas that can be used to fuel turbine driven electricity generators,thus taken care of our blackout situation.This is way cheaper than importing oil and it is also enviromentally friendly.
Subject: Re: Talk is Over! Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development -SLID
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 15:30:27 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
Patrick and Co,
Thank you very much. This is the kind of thing we should all be looking forward to. I like your Note of Caution below.
"NOTE OF CAUTION: [If you are one of those "pessimistic Nay Sayers" full of negativity, and believe that Sierra Leone will never boldly develop or afford modern highways & roads, or ever get adequate electricity, water supply, the Lungi Bridge, and all the other great things that bring immigrants to the USA, Europe, Australia, China, Canada, and other developed countries, THEN DON'T BOTHER TO WRITE TO US. We need those who have something positive to add to our proposal, or constructively point our problems with our proposals. You will one day see this plan implemented!]"
I have come across many Sierra Leoneans that are always full of NEGATIVE ENERGY!!!
Whenever you talk of take VERY EXCELLENT DEVELOPMENTAL Models AND SUGGEST THAT WE SHOULD TRY TO EMULATE THEM IN SIERRA LEONE, THOSE PEOPLE WILL SAY:
1. DO NOT COMPARE THE WEST WITH AFRICA
2. DO NOT COMPARE AMERICA WITH SIERRA LEONE
3. WE ARE A YOUNG DEMOCRACY AND THE OTHER COUNTIRS YOU MENTIONED ARE 100S OF YEARS AHEAD OF US, THEREFORE, IT WILL TAKE US THAT MUCH YEARS TO COME TO THAT LEVE
4. OH, YOU ARE COMPARING APPLES AND ORANGES
THEY ARE ALWAYS NEGATIVE TO BOLD REFORMS.
HOWEVER, THEY ARE FAILING TO LOOK AT A TYPICAL EXAMPLE IN THE COMMUNICATION INDUSTRY. SOME COUNTRIES MOVED FROM FOOT MESSENGERS TO HORSE BACK MESSENGERS TO LETTERS TO TELEGRAMS TO TELEX MESSAGES TO LAND TELEPHONES TO MOBILE PHONES TO FAX MACHINES TO INTERNET TO EMAILS. BUT WITH RATE OF PROGRESSIVE DEVELOPMENT, COUNTRIES ARE TAKING GIANT LEAPS! YES GIANT LEAPD IN DEVELOPING THEIR COUNTRIES. THE SCAPE MONEY STAGES OTHERS WENT THROUGH.
A CASE IN POINT IS THE MOBILE PHONE AND INTERNET DEVELOPMENT IN SIERRA LEONE. NO IS SAYING THAT BEFORE I GET A MOBOLE PHONE, I SHOULD FIRST GET A LAND PHONE!
SURE, WE ARE CAPABLE OF CONTRUCTING 3 OR MORE LANES ROADS WITH VISSIBLE ROAD SIGNS IN SIERRA LEONE TODAY IF WE WANT TO. WE CAN HAVE 24 HOURS ELECTRICITY IF WE WANT. WE CAN HAVE MODERN HOSPITALS IF WE WANT. WE CAN HAVE ALL THE THINGS THAT IS MAKING US RUN TO COME TO THE DEVELOPED WORLD IF WE CAN. IT ALL DEPEND ON VISSIONARY LEADERSHIP, DEDICATION, SACRIFICE AND STAYING FOCUSS AND ZERO TOLERANCE IN TERMS OF CORRUPTION.
SO BROTHERS AND SISTERS, LET US BE POSITIVE AND ALWAYS HOPE THE BEST FOR SIERRA LEONE.
Subject: Re: Talk is Over! Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development -SLID
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 17:00:55 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
I like this. Most of the time when I'm on this forum, I get frustrated because people tear down an idea before it can even be properly discussed. The other thing that I find troublesome is that people are too quick to dismiss everything western. Just because you modify something you learned from the west and use it to benefit your country, that doesn't mean you've abandoned your culture. If you look at societies that are a melting pot of cultures, that's what makes them thrive. They are able embrace the good from other cultures and use it for the collective benefit of the country.
Lastly, if people don't want to look at the west, aren't there examples they can glean from in the region? You can't be so closed that you can't appreciate what is working in another country, learn from them, and use what is working for them to help develop your own country. I always say, why reinvent the wheel?
Subject: Re: Talk is Over! Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development -SLID
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 22:21:30 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Erica,
Please, please, please discuss about the topic INFRASTRUCTURE (building roads, bridges, housing projects, construction of facilities....) Development.
These are the things that will take us from the bottom of that UN Human Development Index.
It is different from SOCIAL/ CULTURAL Development.
I'm an Engineer so I may likely add to this later since I'm quite busy now.
Subject: Re: Talk is Over! Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development -SLID
From: Patrick Bockari
To: All
Date Posted: 18:04:22 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: patbock48@yahoo.com
Entered From: pat.fwhq2nat.dot.ca.gov at 64.174.7.191
Message:
Erica you and Mohamed Fofana are deeply appreciated. I am superstitious. There is a good omen here. You two have beaten the doom & gloom people: those ready to bring every idea down - can't be, won't happen, too good for Africa, too expensive, you did not think this thru, you droped out of college, you don't even have a college degree, and so on, and so on. I am not out of the woods yet. But I already have responses from two people who believe they can guarantee the financing and then, we go to the government and ask for the reform to pay back the money over time. I can't see us failing here.
Patrick.
Subject: Re: Talk is Over! Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development -SLID
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 11:55:53 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
"we go to the government and ask for the reform to pay back the money over time"
Nice Proposal Sir. I read through the different files. You have a very brilliant idea.
my only hope is that the government will respond possitively to your IDEAS.
I will suggest you make this available to other donors-"for man can't tell".
Subject: Re: Talk is Over! Sierra Leone Infrastructure Development -SLID
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 19:08:59 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-233-244-59.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.233.244.59
Message:
That is the way forward. Keep it up.
Subject: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:21:42 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Forumites,
I must say thanks to some of you who help educate fools like Sadam, Sampa Kuthie and others like them. The struggle will continue. I am not here to make noise out of empty barrels. I am taking my debate down to Freetown over the x-mas break. Soon, I will have a webpage or Blog up and running so that interested S/Leoneans can visit the real FGM site rather than having to listen to some of these functional illiterates.
I have lived in the Bronx (NYC) for ten years now. I fluently speak my Krio, Themne, Fula and patch patch Kono plus a little bit of mandigo. I am not copying any western crap. I am a college Prof., financially and emmotionally stable. I advice the likes of Sadam and other refugee products to go to school. This is a land of opportunity, they can be whatever they wanna be. But, they have to educate themselves, that way they can see beyond their noses.
I write this piece, because I have no time to address those demented fellows individually.
Big ups Lady J and all my supporters.
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: WOE-MAN MBALIA
To: All
Date Posted: 19:07:10 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: smtpgateway.azdes.gov at 207.108.136.243
Message:
Mballu,
Refugees are not all inferior people. The misconception some people have is the word refugee is associated with inferiority. I dont think you are actually a professor. Please tell us which college you are teaching to find out for ourselves. Some of those refugees that you despise are far better than you in legal status and some even more stable financially than you think.
Some sierra leoneans have lived in this country for over ten years without legal papers.
Besides, I have known thousands of refugees who have better education and financially stable than non refugees. So quit the crap you are talking about refugees.
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 18:57:03 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: smtpgateway.azdes.gov at 207.108.136.243
Message:
Mballu,
In your blog or site, are youn going to show pictures of the process to show the world how inhuman the practice is if you're serious? You know what I mean
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: prof kalim
To: All
Date Posted: 16:25:50 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: prof@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-71-224-131-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 71.224.131.184
Message:
professors dont make much in the U.s>a . u need to stop posting lies in here. professors make money when they write books that people buy or they come up with something useful. i have never heard you name in the states. so you little comunity college professors in the U.s>a without jobs stop acting like you have it good in america and you doing you country a favor they should kiss u feet. just go home and serve your country
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 15:26:40 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.82.23.33
Message:
Mbalu,
My dear sister, you handled your brothers the way you knew how, for that I tip off my head-tie to you. In time, I believe you will approach them differently.
I earned my living using the art of communication, and everyday I’m confronted with those who have been labeled the “Hard to Serve”.
When I’m in their presence, I see what can BECOME, not what IS….
There are times when I will lead a group without saying a word, but my body language is enough to send the message of , “I’m listening … I care about you … you know you will be alright if you slow the speed of your tongue and do the deed etc ….” I apply the same method in a one-on-one setting ….. I love words, but sometimes SILENCE says it all.
When you decide to embark on your project, it’s not going to be a one-size fits all in Freetown.
As awful as our war may have been, it created an opening for enlightenment. The Demobilization and Reintegration process has brought in a different way of thinking, from those who sought shelters in different countries, and came back to their beloved Sierra Leone.
When you get there, SIT still and LISTEN before you VENTURE my dear, because the movement has already started …. I don’t want you to RUSH and get CRUSHED.
Apply the “Grey Dog” technique …i.e. … Those who have been there before you, know better, but they may not be doing it the right way … Therefore, you hook up with the Grey Dogs (ELDERS), and let them think your idea came from them … ( Nor say borku to them …. Yaing) It’s for a good cause. ….
BTW ….. My father is Loko/ Mende /Madingo from Kalangba and my mother is Fula /Temne from Sanda …. They call me Fula Musu because it’s my dominant feature.
I am a very proud Sierra Leonean, and respect my culture inspite of its pitfalls, which may change someday …. Thanks to sisters like you ….
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: POLITICO
To: All
Date Posted: 15:17:35 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 192.64.157.56
Message:
I think I have a dog in this fight. Madam professor, thanks for blowing your horn; albeit, in the wrong medium. You are educated, somehow wealthy and living a good life is the crap that disturbs. Education is not everything; I am generally offended when the so-called educated elite tries to belittle the unfortunate.
Mbalu, I am pretty sure with all your education, most of your students will get better jobs than you. WHY? I am still in touch with some of my graduate school professors…they are not happy campers. My point is keep your achievements to your self and family.
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:08 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
You said it all Mr Politico. By all indications, professor salary is psyche income. it has a big name but no money. I will not tell Mbalu about my status, I will leave her to punder herself. I am insame and I will remain so. But guess what? FMG FGM GFM is an insult to my people. As far as I am concern she can go to blases with it. I do not speak any other language beside mine. I refused. If I have to do it all over again, I will not even speak english.
I remain Insane
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 14:35:39 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
That is the problem with you Sierra Leoneans. You are alway afraid to debate the issues and bringing crap like illitrate. You might be educated and and have all the money but guess what? You are not feeding the needy in Sierra leone. Instead of doing something that will benefit the country, you are enbarking on some thing that is totally irelivant.
I am not a refugee as you claim. May be that is how you came to the United States. Or may be you parent or lelative of yours Deprived the people of Siera Leone and paid for you. Or it could even be that some man brought you into the United States and them find out that you do not worth it. Who knows?
You can take you education to banana Island and teach but leave the bondo society alone. This is not the place to discuss that crap. Once again go do a transplant if need be.
I remain Sadam.
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 14:34:34 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
Mbalu,
Keep us informed as your progress. You are right, we need a different format for this discussion. It's unfortunate that so many people believe you have to agree with a procedure you didn't even consent to having and can't even see that was a violation.
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 15:08:04 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
You are like a minister of finance without accounting or economics background. You are in experience in this topic so stay away from it. I am going to take it easy with you because you seems gentle. I need the educated Mbalu, village degba, and society revailing Monk. It is an insult to the Sierra leonean culture. She has no culture because she is in the United States with a very heavy accent. that is her culture.
By the way I will be in Freetown too. If I have to spend my money to stop you from adverting that crap, I will. We will see who is who in Sierra Leone. You have the book and I have the cover.
Insame I am.
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 16:23:02 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
Your opinion is just that, your opinion. That does not mean it is the best or the only one.
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: Lodoner
To: All
Date Posted: 15:54:39 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
You sound rattled! An educated WOMAN giving your 'cultural tree' a shake ...eh? Deep insecurities surface! Ha ha ha ha!
You've got your hands full mister! This trickle is going to flow into a raging river. Mark my words!
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:39 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
I feel no pain brother because of who I am. As far as I am concern, she is an educationist and I am a professional. That is the different between myself and her. Being insane is professional in my book. Borbor pain, very original. She wants to fight? I will say bring it on.
Subject: Re: FGM - Of Course! Thanks for your Support.....
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 16:29:41 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
Are saying that Mbalu does not have the right to express herself as a Sierra Leonean? You are posing this as a threat to her as if she is void of any rights. Even if Mbalu is living in the west, that does not mean she doesn't have any rights as a Sierra Leonean. If people don't want to hear what she has to say, it is their right not to listen.
Subject: Can You Please Confirm!
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 14:11:27 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: Brabanxx@aol.com
Entered From: static-216-83-121-130.sniparpa.net at 216.83.121.130
Message:
By a letter dated 17 October,2007, President Ernest Bai Koroma has relieved the Governor of the Bank of Sierra Leone(Dr.J.D.Rogers) of his duties with immediate effect. According to unconfirmed reports the erstwhile Governor had just a few minutes ago bid farewell to staff of the Bank.
Solo.
The above writer just posted the above caption on the Albert Academy Listserve. Is there any validity to this?
Subject: LEATHERBOOT CRAP
From: Four Foot Arata
To: All
Date Posted: 13:57:14 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: us_proxy_indy.xh1.lilly.com at 40.0.40.10
Message:
Is it a job or what?
It is in good faith that I write to suggest to the developers and/ or the folks leading the State House website development project to please take into consideration the suggestions made by many of the forum participants. Someone who goes by the name “Ametaur Webmaster” on this forum started, out of the goodness of his/her heart to construct a rather presentable State House website that is comparable to state websites around the world.
Question: Why is the state house reluctant to use the better constructed and presentable site, but is instead on using the one someone called Leatherboot has created. Who is this Leatherboot by the way? Have you seen the RED and BEIGE/ YELLOW Crap of a website they have created. I guess the rat race continues - APC/ PMDC representation.
Volunteer’s Site – BETTER: http://www.statehouse-sle.info/
Leatherboot’s Site – CRAP: http://www.statehouse.sl/
Subject: Re: LEATHERBOOT CRAP
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 14:22:36 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.208.251.21
Message:
In the spirit of profesionalism, the website should be bid out and professionally paid for by the govt. The site volunteered is a good idea, but it is amateurish and cannot represent our country.
Even the site before under the SLPP govt wasn't great. I'm sure there are a lot of Sierra Leoneans that can come up with a great informative, easy to navigate site properly suited to the business of the government of Sierra Leone.
I know Leatherboot does not know HTML from ABC, so it is a falsehood to say that he designed the red and yellow crap they have on the statehouse site currently.
The country's colors are green white and blue, and any site representing the govt, should have those colors or shades of those colors on it.
Subject: Re: LEATHERBOOT CRAP
From: Amateur Webmaster
To: All
Date Posted: 15:50:08 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
I am dissapointed at your referring to the website, which by the way is still under construction as amateurish.
Your judgement may have been impaired by the irony of the handle used, and you probably may not have an iota of what it takes to put a website together.
You may not even know a single meaning of any of the words with links in Spanish, French or Swedish.
Amateurish my ......
Subject: Re: LEATHERBOOT CRAP
From: ordoryor
To: All
Date Posted: 17:08:14 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Finish the job first and then ask for opinions. I honestly don't think this is the right place to ask for opinions on issues like that. the slpp guys will just mess you up. they would not want you to succeed in anything. can't you see that? heck those guys were kicked out because of gross incompetence; do you think they would want you to shine? chai!
Subject: Re: LEATHERBOOT CRAP
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 16:29:38 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.208.251.22
Message:
Amateur webmaster...I'm sorry you are dissapointed in my comments, but I'm being very objective.
Let me break it down for you.
First of all, you use inline styles for the font definition which as much as they work, will be hard to update should you want to change any of the font styles in the future. You should use a linked stylesheet, which can be updated once, and all the pages of the site will inherit the styles that they are linked to.
Second, there is no navigation on the pages to return from one page to the other, once linked. You are using tables for layout, and the site entrance is not intuitive (You have to tell me where to click to get to the content I want). I love the green white and blue, but too much of it, takes away from the content that you are trying to get to your audience. Less is more.
You did a lot of work to convert the site to different languages, and you are offering something better than what they have currently.
However, the design of the site is still amateurish and not enough. I stand by that.
We have a chance to change and we should now aim for the skies.
Subject: Re: LEATHERBOOT CRAP
From: Patrick Bockari
To: All
Date Posted: 14:47:56 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: patbock48@yahoo.com
Entered From: pat.fwhq2nat.dot.ca.gov at 64.174.7.191
Message:
If you good with computers, can you take my document in Publisher 2003 and format it in pdf so that it is easy for readers to access? If you can, send me an email. I have broken into 4 - 5 pages and still can of large - like 5 MB each and takes 3 to 4 minutes to open.
Here is the link:
http://www.ivnps.com/SLID.HTML
Subject: Re: LEATHERBOOT CRAP
From: Feedback
To: All
Date Posted: 15:06:13 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: us_proxy_indy.xh1.lilly.com at 40.0.40.10
Message:
Patrick - you are better off rendering your documents in html/xml instead of pdf, because PDFs could take a while to download, especially for users in locat1ons with low bandwidth. Also, most reader will need Adobe for pdf documents. Eventhough you can get Adobe free, it sometimes is an inconvenience.
Subject: Re: LEATHERBOOT CRAP
From: Patrick Bockari
To: All
Date Posted: 21:56:27 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: patbock48@yahoo.com
Entered From: 74-37-103-11.dsl1.ekgv.ca.frontiernet.net at 74.37.103.11
Message:
Thanks Feedback. I will ask my Internet guy to see what needs to be done.
Subject: John Benjamin for SLPP Party leadership
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 13:49:00 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.208.251.21
Message:
Given his show of dedication, hard work, and commitment to the SLPP during the election period and before, I nominate John Benjamin as the new defacto leader of the SLPP to replace the resigned SOlomon Berewa.
Your thoughts.....
Subject: Re: John Benjamin for SLPP Party leadership
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:50:26 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
Entered From: adsl-76-192-143-215.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net at 76.192.143.215
Message:
Town crier, perhaps you have cried too much in your village and you do not realize what you are saying. I can assure SLPP will never, I mean never elect a hooligan like John ben as leader. The NPRC days are gone forever. The fact that Kabba encouraged and enabled John ben to an extent does not mean that SLPP should adopt him. Kabba by his very nature attracts crooks,hooligans and tribalists. There is nothing classy or respectable about Kabba's thugs and to tell you something, SLPP does not need none of them. SLPP is going into a new era. Lonta
Subject: Re: John Benjamin for SLPP Party leadership
From: casava bread
To: All
Date Posted: 16:29:54 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: casada@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-71-224-131-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 71.224.131.184
Message:
no way John Benjamin. if you fools want to bury your party choose him. Is that man 100percent Sierra Leonean even?
Subject: Re: John Benjamin for SLPP Party leadership
From: casava bread
To: All
Date Posted: 16:29:38 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: casada@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-71-224-131-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 71.224.131.184
Message:
no way John Benjamin. if you fools want to bury your party choose him. Is that man 100percent Sierra Leonean even?
Subject: Re: John Benjamin for SLPP Party leadership
From: casava bread
To: All
Date Posted: 16:29:34 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: casada@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-71-224-131-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 71.224.131.184
Message:
no way John Benjamin. if you fools want to bury your party choose him. Is that man 100percent Sierra Leonean even?
Subject: Re: John Benjamin for SLPP Party leadership
From: fact
To: All
Date Posted: 17:11:01 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Benji is the right man for slpp. why? Because na two-foot arata en nazi.
Subject: BAISNESS!!!!!
From: WHY??
To: All
Date Posted: 11:51:19 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
BIASNESS TO THE Nth. DEGREE!!!
Please look through yesterday’s postings about Foday Mansaray/to nominated Deputy Bank governor; they have been removed! Why? Can anybody explain why?
Again, let me state here that people should not be distracted with the title "MROTGAGE BANKER". It is like when you "A NURSE". Yes a nurse, but what kind of nurse? CNA, LPN/LVN, RN with AA degree or RN with BSN or RN with MSN etc. You can not appoint a certified nursing assistant (CNA) to give medications or insert an "IV" into the patient or prescribe medication for patients.
A MORTGAGE BANKER is another word for a Real Estate agent or Realtor. You don't need a degree to become one. It is a certificate program, just like the CNA program.
Realtors or Real Estate Agent are most times not honest people. Their interest is their commission per closed deals!!!!! More deals closed, more commission. It is a number game. Therefore, they manipulate, deceive and dupe their clients just to get the commission. They will know that a particular is bad but if that is where they get the commission, they will not tell you that. They will tell you otherwise.
Besides, appointed bank governors are people that are well knowledgeable in economics. They may have written books about economics, or CEOs of reputable financial institutions that have made positive impact,
Professors that have very strong views on the subject and people that have a clear sense or direction as how and how they will take the institution to the next level if given the chance. The Bank governor and his deputy, control the financial life of a country and its people. I don't think that Foday Mansaray fits into any of the above categories. If he does, let him or his friends post his credentials, what he knows about the Sierra Leone economy, where and how will take the institution to next level, relative to the current local and global economy.
Subject: Peters denies Sierra Leone job
From: Mohamed Fajah Barrie
To: All
Date Posted: 11:22:55 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-76-21-180-12.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 76.21.180.12
Message:
Nigerian coach James Peters has denied having talks with the SLFA
Nigerian coach James Peters has denied being appointed as the caretaker coach of the Sierra Leone's national football team.
This comes despite the Sierra Leone Football Association (SLFA) announcing that Peters would take charge of the Leone Stars as coach.
Peters had been expected by the SLFA to oversee the side's two 2010 World Cup preliminary round matches against Guinea Bissau.
However, the 55-year-old Nigerian did not lead the team out in their 1-0 win over in the first-leg game.
Peters told BBC Sport such permanent coaching arrangements were never discussed between the two parties.
'Surprise'
"I do not consider myself coach of Leone Stars because nobody from the SLFA has discussed that with me," said Peters.
"There is no paper to prove I am the coach.
"Surprisingly I heard it on the radio that I had been appointed and I think they were just deceiving the public.
"I was sent to Sierra Leone by the West African Football Union (Wafu) President-elect Dr Amos Adamu to come and give technical assistance for the Leone Stars last two matches against Benin and Bissau respectively.
"So the question of employing me as coach should not have arisen."
'Kallon'
Peters also claimed that he was not given the chance to give out technical assistance to the team as was agreed by Dr. Adamu and the SLFA.
"I was not on the bench for Bissau match because I was not given the chance to help in training the team before the match.
"I went to help train the team but I was not allowed to as I was told that Mohamed Kallon was training the team as coach instead.
"It was unprofessional and I made it clear to the SLFA that I can not be contesting for the coaching job with Kallon."
But Bah has reiterated that he agreed with Peters that he should take up the job.
"I would not be so irresponsible to go public and announce the appointment of Peters and Kanu (without it being true).
"I discussed the issue with him, together with his assistant Ahmed Kanu, and both of them agreed."
Peters is due to return home to Nigeria on 25 October.
Subject: Bondo, Ernest, NPRC - All idle talk. A child needs help!!!!!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 11:01:55 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Komba Kambo,
Foday Mansaray,
Presidential website.
All idle.. idle talk talk business..
Show us what you got..
Action.. putting your pockit where your teeth cavity is..
Come on fella's let give this boy a decent christmas..
5, 10, 20, 50 ,100
Dollar,Pounds, we even take Guinea francs..
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1226&cntnt01returnid=185
We now have a credible means of making sure pikin bizness gets the money.
Please make donations by clicking on the link.
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&PID=27487#27487
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=2314&PN=1
Subject: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Amateur Webmaster
To: All
Date Posted: 10:31:45 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
Please visit the website under construction donated out of my own pocket to the new government. Please feel free to give your opinion.
Subject: ATTENTION!! This Guy was just doing a favor - checkout ...
From: Feedback
To: All
Date Posted: 16:06:19 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: us_proxy_indy.xh1.lilly.com at 40.0.40.10
Message:
the crap the state house prefers.
http://www.statehouse.sl/
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:38:48 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-137-189-222.range86-137.btcentralplus.com at 86.137.189.222
Message:
We can do better than this. Substandard!! You can commission students of web design to come up with a unique website and the winner will receive a handsome token. Let the colleges take on this task!!
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Ibrahim Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 15:34:49 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: imtu71@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-255-153-112.cncdnh.east.verizon.net at 71.255.153.112
Message:
I checked it out and it seems less appealing and very unprofessional, talkless of being less informative and attractive. It appears plain and simple with target of minor segment.Mind you, we talking about executive website. However, there is room for improvement so keep working and harder this time.
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Amateur Webmaster
To: All
Date Posted: 16:01:28 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
The site I posted was what was put together within 2 to 4 hours after I was approached.
However, the very individuals that had asked for my to build the website hijacked the domain I had signed up for, and replaced the website I spent precious time on with the leatherboot one you now have as the official state house website.
Now, compare what was created in just 2-3 hours with what they spent the last 2-3 weeks on and decide for yourselves. Besides, my access to govt info is zero.
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:20:01 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
Lilla bror, du har gjort jätte bra.Jag hopas du ska färdiga snart! Tack så mycket.
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Hashim Daboh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:11:24 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: Gboyama@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: host86-150-144-35.range86-150.btcentralplus.com at 86.150.144.35
Message:
Great work in progress and please accept my candid admiration for the effort to get away from the Kabbaisim . Hope you go all the way to make the site fully functional in a timely fashion . Moreover ,would you please try and include past presidential speeches dating from Sir Milton . At least let the APC show the difference and that its quite possible to do that .
However ,coupled with classified intelligence from Burkino ,Monrovia and elsewhere ,it appears we're in this for a long run as Campore seems to be everywhere in our political arrangements. Is there a subtle corner to this strange Boukina dimension .
First, Preso was seemingly obliged to visit Quagadougu -a country so far away or was it a pilgrim to the 'promised' land of m m m m . This is an issue i'll try to discuss with Preso after his hundred days grace period -why the Burkina hype in the system . Does it have anything to do with electioneering with a Liberian touch . Just a guess sir and never in haste .
Even the New State House Web seem to have a Campaore touch - whoa ! what a coincidence. But as i've said ,i'll give preso time to reflect and get his men team running before making this a matter. Both Ghadaffi and Campaore played pivotal roles in our decade of mayhem ,and Kabbah got much of his illgotten wealth from Libya save his Ship of rice for Naccit. Sankara was killed to give way to the rebels to move on with not only a training base in Burkina ,but a transit and full supply base of weaponry in our slaughter . What's going on inside the Sierra Leonean head. But let the vultures have their field day ,but be rest assured this story will come out and i hope Preso will understand my curiosity .
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Amateur Webmaster
To: All
Date Posted: 13:29:51 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
Varsågod! Men vet du att de ville inte ha det?
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 12:42:12 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
What is the official web address for the government of Sierra Leone and who owns it. This needs to be addressed so that there are not issues around this from administration to administration. The official address needs to be state property.
Good effort at getting a web presence for the new administration.
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 13:28:08 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
Erica, thanks for the question. The official website is the one that comes on when you click on the sl.org link to the president's office.
It is disgraceful - there no single working link, and none of the pictures showing. It crap compared to the one that was donated.
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Feedback
To: All
Date Posted: 12:23:23 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: us_proxy_indy.xh1.lilly.com at 40.0.40.10
Message:
1. Upon accessing the site after clicking on the seal – the landing page could be ANNOUCEMENTS or Main State House NEWS. Regular positing on key issues addressed, major activities happening or one-liners from the president could be posted daily, and would be great. Photos like the ones you currently have displayed is still acceptable, but put some context around it to make it significant.
2. The MENU items on the left are great, but have framing/ borders to help show some organization.
3. Include a CONTACT US section – This should have official contact information for key stakeholders or officials at the State House.
4. The Other Links/ Helpful Links section should have links related to actvties of the state or ministries (e.g. immigration office, ministry of tourism, NEC, ministry of education, defense, etc. and not foreign links, newspapers, or personal owned businesses.
5. Most men are color blind, so pay attention to your font color hues, and the use of certain colors in certain ways that may cause difficulty when users navigate your pages
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Amateur Webmaster
To: All
Date Posted: 13:17:47 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
Just a goodwill offer to the new regime. It was turned down for what leatherboot had put together. Me thinks every Sierra Leoneans needs to take part in decision making especially when it comes to issues representing their identity as a peaople and nation.
I'm positive there ain't many countries with websites in French, Spanish, etc representing their nation. Being the ones that help Mother Salone sit up again, the gesture was meant to attract the attention of the IC to invest more on the poeple of Sierra Leone.
Alas, it now seems color matters more to some of us than substance. Hmmm (as I lean back).
Thanks for all the feedbacks some of which have been worked on. Thanks ideed, although it however looks like leatherboot and co may be needing them more them than I would at this point.
What I could for Sa Lone I have done entusiastically. My business of donating a website to State House is over with. The one you just saw is going the garage.
In the meanwhile, think of what awaits a country where round holes are thrusted with square pegs.
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Feedback
To: All
Date Posted: 13:41:17 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: us_proxy_indy.xh1.lilly.com at 40.0.40.10
Message:
You did a fantastic job with the updated site. Especially for an official site that is going to be used by millions across the world. I hope they truly do not plan on putting up the crap I saw in RED and BIEGE.
Thanks for all the effort.
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Amateur Webmaster
To: All
Date Posted: 13:51:58 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
Je vous en prie! - You are welcome!
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 11:09:15 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
Great effort.
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Neutral
To: All
Date Posted: 10:54:54 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
Good effort.Please keep it up
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE
From: Feedback
To: All
Date Posted: 10:54:29 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: us_proxy_indy.xh1.lilly.com at 40.0.40.10
Message:
I would recommend that you replace "This site is under construction" with the "PLEASE Click on SEAL for Access" instruction, so the instructions is closer to the action you expect users to take. The construction al3rt should be more striking somewhere else on the page or when users access the main site. Look forward to seeing progress, but I must say is a great improvement so far.
Thanks for the opportunity to provide my feedback!
Subject: TRIBUTE TO A SALONE NATIONALIST- DR OLOH
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:13:50 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
From Standard Times Press News Paper
IN MEMORIAM
The Great Dr Oloh Gumbay And Milo Jazz King Of Sierra Leone....Gone But Not Forgotten
By Akie Deen
Oct 18, 2007, 05:33
Olufemi Cole, commonly known as Oloh, was born in the mountain village of Leicester near Freetown on the 20th of March 1944. Born of humble parents, Dr. Oloh never enjoyed the luxury of a secondary school education.
Due to the limited financial resources of his parents, he was forced to leave school at an early age to earn a living. He traipsed all over Freetown in search of those houses where musicians used to practice. It was clear that Oloh was looking for the opportunity to get into the music business. He was always fascinated by the maestro and guitarist, Dr. Dynamite (Masokoloko). His influence on Oloh was profound. At that point in his life, he was toying with the idea of becoming a priest. But his weak educational background hampered him and he quickly abandoned his ambition of becoming a priest. Oloh then switched to music and discovered a niche in the market. As they say, the rest is history.
Dr Oloh discovered that he could still preach to people through his music. He organised his first group, comprising percussion instruments. He composed and performed songs, which were relevant to the community. Oloh rapidly became a household name.
At the early age of 10, he started making music with empty milk cans and bottles. His musical ingenuity and his unending desire to develop Sierra Leone’s rich cultural heritage, forced him into the full-blown music scene. Oloh‘s ambition was to blend the native Sierra Leonean music Caribbean and Latin American musical influences. That was the birth of his internationally famous ‘Milo Beat’. Although ‘Gumbay Beat’ had existed, Oloh saw the need to blend both sounds in his repertoire. Oloh began gaining dominance after he was invited to perform with the Creole music exponent and legend, Ebenezer Calendar.
Oloh was “awarded” a Doctorate Degree by a grateful Sierra Leonean community, which was greatly impressed with his dedication and contribution to local folk and popular music. Oloh continued to develop his musical genre, which ultimately became known as ‘Milo Jazz’. Getting people out of their seats on to the dance floor was an easy task for Oloh. His music was exciting and electrifying. There were no steps or moves to learn. It was simply a matter of responding to the beat.
That was the new circuit of ravers that Oloh animated and musically helped to de-colonise in the late Sixties and Seventies. Prior to that period, the Creoles of Freetown remained in contact with their Africana roots through ‘Gumbay Music’. That music evolved during sojourns of their ancestors in the West Indies, and they brought it back with them after surviving the long period of enslavement.
Sierra Leoneans did not only dance to the infectious beat of Milo Jazz, they also accompanied him in the singing as well. It was no longer just the music of a group of people afraid of losing their culture; it became the music of the entire nation seeking to be reunited by its culture. Oloh had many student musicians in his college and had the ability to supply an ensemble for several engagements at the same time.
In 1989, Oloh was awarded the OR (Order of Rokel) by the Government of Sierra Leone, during the Presidency of H.E. Joseph Saidu Momoh, for his musical excellence and contribution to the national development of music and culture.
Dr. Oloh had a large repertoire. Dr. Oloh and his Milo Jazz Band performed for the first time outside Sierra Leone in 1991, when he was invited by international music impresario Akie Deen to perform at the Sierra Showcase Event at the prestigious Empire Ballrooms in Leicester Square, London. In 1992 he travelled again to the United Kingdom on tour. In 1994 he performed with other Sierra Leonean musicians at a benefit concert for the late musical legend, S.E. Rogie. His last performance in London was in 1996 when he performed at the Centenary Celebration of one of Sierra Leone’s heroes, Bai Bureh.
Dr. Oloh continued his musical career until his death after a short illness in Freetown on the 13th of October 2007.
© Copyright by www.standardtimespress.net
Subject: PLEASE VISIT OUR NEW SITE
From: president transition team
To: All
Date Posted: 09:11:44 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: dhcp5734.4u.com.gh at 41.204.57.34
Message:
It was designed by Leatherboot.
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR NEW SITE
From: KBM
To: All
Date Posted: 10:26:52 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: nnn@nnn.com
Entered From: local.ldc.co.uk at 195.92.110.42
Message:
Crap - total crap. This has to be a joke. I am an APC die hard, but believe that the State House site should reflect the national colours, not that of a party. Kasseh Burreh Makonteh
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR NEW SITE
From: Emmanuel Jarrett
To: All
Date Posted: 09:23:04 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: na6mk2fw01.fidelity.com at 192.223.243.5
Message:
Why do they have to create a whole new website? Why not leverage what was in existence....another question is even though the site does not load, but it seems there is a red colour....is the website an APC site paid by the APC for the President and his team or a government site paid by the government of SL....
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR NEW SITE
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 09:21:51 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
Guys - go with our national colors. Enough with the red, campaign is over!
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR NEW SITE
From: Gongoli
To: All
Date Posted: 09:21:17 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: gonos@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-66-102-151.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.66.102.151
Message:
Call me cynical, but I know leatherboot does not have the technical know-how to design a website. Wven if he did, look at the results. My suggestion is - get it up and running before advertising it. This is supposed to be a PRESIDENTIAL website.
I am disappointed. You can abuse me or call me names, but that is my humble opinion. YOU CAN DO BETTER
Subject: Re: PLEASE VISIT OUR NEW SITE
From: editor
To: All
Date Posted: 09:16:46 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.84.3
Message:
site not ready...good try though!
Subject: 12TH ANNIVERSARY OF MILLION MAN MARCH
From: LOUIS FARRAKHAN
To: All
Date Posted: 05:37:56 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
A life for a leader says Farrakhan for all the injustices done to black people. It is about time.
Subject: Rotten Judiciary
From: Observation
To: All
Date Posted: 04:41:32 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
Honourable Kemoh Sesay said, our Judiciary was rotten, because he was charged in the Court for fraud.Is he serious????
Subject: DIGBASOWAY GOT THE GBOARKABANAS STARTED!
From: Sampa Kuthie
To: All
Date Posted: 03:43:52 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: biomechanics7@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator5850.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.180.250
Message:
And I am going to add more salt to their wounds.
Research has shown that most nymphomaniacs are non-FGMs and what more, 90% of horny women on daily basis are non-FGMs.
The findings of the research also confirmed that most female AIDS victims are found in countries like South Africa, Thailand and India which lends credence to the fact that countries with high populations of non-FGM females are more vulnerable to the disease.
Now to the gboarkabana trio of Mbalu, Erica and Lady J:
Mbalu is the worst of the the trio.She claims to be a SHAYMA but why on earth she is revealing the secret remains a mystery.Bondo is not just about FGM but also discipline and secrecy and Mbalu does not display any of these and that makes her the biggest of all GBOARKAS! What makes her tick? Is it because she is now in the US and thinks she is an american? One can immerse oneself into water to swim but not to be transformed into a fish! Mbalu needs to get a life and grow up!She is already a stigma to the native girls of Salone!
As for Erica and Lady J they do not know anything about the secrets of the african woman.Their tribe knows nothing about the benefits of FGM and that is why they screw around.The married ones have no respect for their husbands and knows very little about how to treat a husband.They belong to the tribe of cassonova women.They have the worst job in their hands of always having a lime fruit for company as it helps them reduce the horny feeling.
Subject: Re: DIGBASOWAY GOT THE GBOARKABANAS STARTED!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:55:15 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Sampa Kuthie,
I know I should not respond to a fool like you but I am obliged to do so in the interest of moving the FGM debate forward. All of your statements are fallacious and do not worth a pintch of salt. You definitely can not comprehend what you read, otherwise you would not accuse me of revealing any Bondo secret in this forum. Never have I made any overt reference to bondo. My discourse has strictly been tailored around the surgical removal of a vital genitalia, PERIOD! My problem regarding this FGM issue bothers around two things: (i) the use of non-sterile instruments to execute the surgical process which puts those of us that are victims at a high risk of countless of diseases, and (ii) the after-effect of the lack of sexual drive that one is left with after undergoing such a crude procedure.
Now, if you grew up in S/L and attended school up to form five like me, and if you have average intelligence, go look at your biology text book (like the famous Stone & Cozens) and refute any of my concerns just highlighted above. Since you write like an immature functional illiterate, I refuse to further any arguments with you but rather ask that you stay away from the all important FGM debate.
To some of your other equally demented colleagues, I will be in Freetown over the x-mas break and they are invited to join me or confront me.
Subject: Re: DIGBASOWAY GOT THE GBOARKABANAS STARTED!
From: WISDOM
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:47 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
WHEN YOU COME BACK FROM SIERRA LEONE, SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH US. I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE GOOD, BUT ALL THE BEST. PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOU TAKE THE DEBATE "FACE ON" WITH THOSE TRIBES AND AREAS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PRACTISING FGM. DON NOT JUST CONCENTRATE THE DEBATE ON THE NON FGM TRIBES AND OR AREAS!
I HOPE THAT NOBODY WILL PHYSICALLY MANHANDLE YOU IN THE PRVINCES. TRAVEL ARROUND THE COUTRY DEBATING IT AND ONCE AGAIN GOOD LUCK!
Subject: Re: DIGBASOWAY GOT THE GBOARKABANAS STARTED!
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 14:17:13 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Why can't you go and do a transplant. If you think what your parent did to you was not right, them simple. Go see a doctor to help you out. You have money, you leave in America, what else do you want. leave that society alone. And if you cannot stand the hit on this forum, get out. It is either the mens way or the highway. I am gay and don't forget. By the way, how old is stone and cozen you mentioned? When was it publish? Please response positively.
Thanks
Sadam
Subject: Re: DIGBASOWAY GOT THE GBOARKABANAS STARTED!
From: obgyn
To: All
Date Posted: 13:48:05 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.84.3
Message:
Shame on you munku!!
Subject: Re: DIGBASOWAY GOT THE GBOARKABANAS STARTED!
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 10:41:14 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
I do not think Mbalu, Lady J or Erica should dignify your posting with a response. What proportion of the world's female population do you think are circumcised? Your bogus attempt at drawing a correlation between FGM practice and the incidence of AIDS beggars belief. You need to grow out of your mental chains. The chauvinistic slant of your piece aptly mirrors your mindset. The Mbalus, Lady Js and Ericas of this world are steadily on the increase. And guess what? Not even the blind loquacious stooges of cultural dogma can stop them.
Subject: Re: DIGBASOWAY GOT THE GBOARKABANAS STARTED!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:58:59 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Thanks Londoner,
Sorry, I responded to the fool prior to reading your piece. I would have definitely seek your advice and ignored the THICK-HEAD.
Subject: Re: DIGBASOWAY GOT THE GBOARKABANAS STARTED!
From: Ishmael Yillah
To: All
Date Posted: 06:08:02 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-96-231-118-16.washdc.east.verizon.net at 96.231.118.16
Message:
Sampa Kuthie
please provide the research, and state where & when the research was conducted? What type of evidence is included in the research. As someone in the medical field, I strongly disagree with you, as a matter of fact Nbalu was right.
Subject: Re: DIGBASOWAY GOT THE GBOARKABANAS STARTED!
From: Sampa Kuthie
To: All
Date Posted: 07:32:45 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: biomechanics@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator5850.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.180.250
Message:
If you want to see the research report come to the YARMAH in Waterloo.
Subject: Re: DIGBASOWAY GOT THE GBOARKABANAS STARTED!
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 11:24:18 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Sampa si dom ya. ose bondo Mbalu go? May be na gay lek me. e nor sabi forkol. Let her put that crap that she is talking about on radio in Freetown. Most of us will be there and we will make sure it does not happen.
As a go nomo a de go tell ya Degba. Yes na so a say
I remain Insane.
Subject: THE SEARCH - PLEASE HELP !
From: Alan Barry
To: All
Date Posted: 00:12:25 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip4da2899b.direct-adsl.nl at 77.162.137.155
Message:
I AM DYING TO LOCATE RUTH KAMARA. SHE LIVES IN LONDON, THAMES TO BE PRECISE. RUTH HAILS FROM MAKENI ( FLOWER CORNER).CAN ANYONE PLEASE HELP ?
Subject: Re: THE SEARCH - PLEASE HELP !
From: MR Kondoh
To: All
Date Posted: 23:32:33 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: acc940de.ipt.aol.com at 172.201.64.222
Message:
My wife RUTH has denied ever knowing you. My man what do you want with my wife??? Mr Moderator please note...this forum should not be used for contacting peoples' wives or as a retrospective dating service.Alan Barry i await your response.
Subject: Re: THE SEARCH - PLEASE HELP !
From: chaglar
To: All
Date Posted: 17:05:59 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: s0106001731677de8.wp.shawcable.net at 24.79.65.27
Message:
RUTH husband’s name is Mr. Kondoh, working in the S.L Embassy in Russia. Be warned, her husband takes no joke for his Ruth. Save yourself brother!!
Subject: Re: THE SEARCH - PLEASE HELP !
From: johnny
To: All
Date Posted: 05:22:03 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: acc940de.ipt.aol.com at 172.201.64.222
Message:
Is Ruth she your ex kolonko sweetheart. Move on man, she is now married with 4 kids. Her husband will skin u alive! Be warned.
Subject: Re: THE SEARCH - PLEASE HELP !
From: Canister
To: All
Date Posted: 04:50:51 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: Canos@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-66-102-151.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.66.102.151
Message:
The Ruth I know from Flower Corner is Sesay. I am in touch with her but the surnames are different
Subject: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: Isatta
To: All
Date Posted: 23:32:16 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: I.koker@yahoo.com
Entered From: 164.153-205-66.ftth.swbr.surewest.net at 66.205.153.164
Message:
The Sierra Leone Embassy in Washington has Chinese women working for them! Why is this the case? Can't they find any Sierra Leoneans to work there? What other country can you think of that has other nationals working at there embassy issuing visas? This is a shame.
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 06:16:41 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
Isatta: I am replying to the issue you raised on my understanding that the lady in question is not a Sierra Leone citizen and was probably recruited in Washington as a local staff. There are many embassies and high commissions who employ nationals other than their own to work in their missions abroad. Normally these are done for diplomatic, strategic and pragmatic reasons.
Let us assume, as I stated in my opening statement, that the Chines woman is not a Sierra Leonean and was locally recruited in Washinton. That being so, the Sierra Leone government would save substantial money by not providing her with services and facilities normally accorded to diplomatic staff ie accomodation, paying her rent and all her living expenses including utility bills, cost of living allowance, expensive private school tuition fees if she had children etc. But as a locally engaged staff, which in this case appears to be, the government pays only her salary based on the washington tax system. She is not a diplomat under these circumstances and should normally not be entiled to diplomatic privileges, which provides some insight in to why missions recruits some local staff to do certain jobs. Some people see this as a form of cheap labour.
Whereas if the government sent their nationals on posting they have to incure all the above listed expenses and more -such as free annual holiday home with their family members and various insurances.
I note your particular concerns raised about the Chines woman issuing Sierra Leone's visas in your embassy as this is a sensitive area to work, in any embassy. I have just come to the end of my three years posting in Belgium on crown service. One of the Entry Clearance Officer ECO is a Belgian national who was lacally employed, the office manager and significant numbers of staff in the British embassy in Brussels were locally engaged.
I am not saying that Sierra Leone govt should do same but only highlighting that the case you have raised in which presumbaly a Chines national is issuing Sierra Leone visa in your country's embassy is not peculiar. However, I do have my own private views, which I cannot state on this forum.
I would advise, however, that if you have serious concerns about the appropriateness of her appointment to perform that role and if you feel it has possible compromising influence on your country's immigration and her national security then forward your concerns to the new Sierra Leone foreign miniser. She is my sweety oh! a slip of tongue.
I hope this little will help.
Regards "Nico"
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 01:32:37 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip70-162-167-106.ph.ph.cox.net at 70.162.167.106
Message:
In Sierra Leone there were lot of sierra leoneans working in the US embassy. What's up with that?
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: Nationalist
To: All
Date Posted: 02:24:35 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Sierra Leoneans working in the US embassy in Sierra Leone either performed very low jobs, or were given jobs that required skills of local people.
The issuing of visas in am embassy should be done by citizens.
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: agree@yahoo.com
To: All
Date Posted: 04:46:02 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-71-224-131-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 71.224.131.184
Message:
WE always copy the bad habits of other country. now we outsourcing jobs to chinese and we dont even have enough jobs for our people . wow. i am gonna look into this one.
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: AMBASSADOR JOH LEIGH
To: All
Date Posted: 05:15:53 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
AMBASSADOR JOHN LEIGH STARTED THAT NONSENSE, WHE HE CAME AND FIRED PA JACOBS CLAIMING HE WAS A DRUNKARD AND THE CONSULAR OFFICER CLAIMING IMPROPRIETARY. WHAT A SHAME AMBASSADOR LEIGH. HE ALSO CLAIMED THAT THESE MEN WERE COUPLIGANS. HE THEN HIRED AN INDIAN DRIVER AN INDIAN CONSULAR OFFICER AND DROVE THE SIERRA LEONE LADY THAT WAS WORKING THERE.
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 20:52:53 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-233-244-59.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.233.244.59
Message:
I don't think that anybody should rush to castigate JL at this point. Someone has just accused him as a corrupt Sierra Leonean who did something wrong at the embassy. "See the post below"
JL has taken his time and outline what happened at the embassy. Can anybody proof on this forum that what he said is a lie? Has JL valid reason(s) of terminating the late man's service? Nobody is denying the fact that he was taking gifts for people to Sierra Leone. That has nothing to do with his embassy job.
Please try to counter JL's attestation instead of just condemning him. The only unfortunate thing is that the Pa is no longer alive to refute it. At the same time, those who knew him should stop talking if they do not know exactly what happened at the embassy. Or if they knew what exactly happened, they should come forward for proof. If not, let sleeping dogs lie.
Now below is the posting that JL responded to.
“AMBASSADOR JOHN LEIGH STARTED THAT NONSENSE, WHE HE CAME AND FIRED PA JACOBS CLAIMING HE WAS A DRUNKARD AND THE CONSULAR OFFICER CLAIMING IMPROPRIETARY. WHAT A SHAME AMBASSADOR LEIGH. HE ALSO CLAIMED THAT THESE MEN WERE COUPLIGANS. HE THEN HIRED AN INDIAN DRIVER AN INDIAN CONSULAR OFFICER AND DROVE THE SIERRA LEONE LADY THAT WAS WORKING THERE.”
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:57:00 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Dear Mr. Mohamed Fofana:
Thank you very much for showing the way as to how my response to the baseless accusations against me re the late PA Jacobs ought to be dealt with. Appreciated. - JL
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 10:54:19 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 87.114.69.199.plusnet.thn-ag2.dyn.plus.net at 87.114.69.199
Message:
There is no way any country will employ a foreigner to issue visas or entry clearances. Maybe this lady is one of those Chinese who bought our passport prior to the handing over of Hon Kong back to China. Sierra Leone employing a Chinese national to issue visas or entry clearance is like America employing an Iranian national to issue their visas.Or Britain asking an Afghan to perform the same duties for them. We may as well drop Zainab Bangura and appoint USA visa officer BARBARA of sa.lone fame as foreign Minister of our country. John Leigh can say and do anything. If a former diplomat can call his own countrymen LOW GRADE SAN SAN HUMAN BEINGS, waetin else ee nor go do? To use his official residence as a whore house? What a shame!
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:44:41 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
I never started anything bad at our embassy. I was reform-minded and determined to make the embassy a friendly, useful and helpful place to all law-abiding Sierra Leoneans and my country respected in North America.
First, I never claimed that Mr. Jacobs was a drunkard and fired him. I said I caught Mr. Jacobs drunk on embassy premises at about 11:00AM on one occasion in October 1996 and asked him to terminate such a disgraceful conduct during official hours on embassy premises.
Second, I also asked Mr. Jacobs never to bring booze again into the embassy or invite his usual hangers-on to join him drinking at the embassy. Those hangers-on included the Parking Meter Maid in the area, taxi drivers and obvious unemployed flunkies.
Third, Jacobs did not stop but continued with his drinking, entertaining undesirables during official hours at the embassy premises and bringing drinks into the embassy and finagling visas. I heard all kinds of rumors but did not catch him rightaway but did later.
Fourth, eventually I caught Jacobs on a workday with three liters of red wine at about noon, several cups, and glasses and a number of ildlers entering the embassy presmisess. I asked him again to cease and desist from such a conduct. I then went about on my own official duties. At about 2pm on that same day, I was in search of a certain document when I came upon Jacobs dunk, with three empty red wine bottles besides him, redwine-stained drinking glasses and in the presence of his usual hangers-on.
Fifth, at this point, I asked the Head of Chancery to investigate and report to me. He declined. So I investigated myself and found Jacobs to be grossly drunk. I eventually asked him to leave. He declined and kept on quietly coming into the embassy to drink and finagle visas. The gang of crooks knew all this nut kept the info secret from me.
Eventually, in November 1996, I terminated his appointment with the help of State Dept agents.
Sixth, I did ask my Indian driver to cross check in writing all those entering the embassy and for what purpose. This was during the interregnum and only after I had discovered the systematic theft of consular fees by collusive gang members hiding their activities from embassy loyalists.
I also did so because a gang of crooks was operating defiantly within the embassy and protecting each other against the national interest and I was hellbent to put an end this conduct.
My Indian driver, on the other hand, was loyal, truthful and efficient and never colluded with gang members.
Seventh, I did not hire my Indian driver. I met him at the embassy. He was the same Indian who drove for Ambassador Dr. Tom Kargbo, my predecessor.
Eight. I never hired an Indian Consul at any time. The official who handled consular matters was Mr. James Caulker, then the Second Secretary. And the only Indian who worked at the embassy during my time was my Indian driver.
Nine. The members of the gang of crooks operately arrogantly inside the embassy were eventually exposed as coupligans (the "p" in coupligans is silent) when their top man told me that I need to prepare an estimate of my relocat1on costs to Massachusetts as Johnny Paul had sacked me and as he has been appointed - and had accepted - the position of Charge de'affairs offered him by Johnny Paul. He directed me to vacate the embassy forthwith, claiming that Kabbah's government did not control the territory of Sierra Leone. The fellow was an ignorant dunce.
Tenth. No lady was driven out of the embassy by me during my time as ambassador. The secretary who worked with Johnny Paul's purported Charge de'affairs eventually left on her own free will after his boss was denounced by the US State Department and evicted from the embassy by US Secret Service Agents.
Incidentally, it was the Kabbah government that the US government recognized (as the de jure power in SL). The dumbo did not understand the huge distinction between the de jure power and the illicit de facto coupist occupiers.
Eleventh. During my days in DC I found out that Sierra Leoneans generally do not like working at the embassy because the pay is tiny, the workload heavy and the environment was socially difficult for some.
On the other hand foreigners - Indians & Filipinos - don't mind at all because they need the visa that comes with the job. If Chinese people now work at the embassy, I won't be surprised. Foreigners - Asians - have been on embassy staff since the 1960s. The claim that I started it all is thus not true.
Thanks for your attention. - JL
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:28:42 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
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JL.I know the late Pa Jekie, he was a good friend of mine and to see you run down this dead man who can't defend himself is unacceptable.( Nar die man den dey lie pan.) You should have taken the high road on this one. Krio man say; tuk half lef half. Lonta.
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 15:43:55 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Sabanoh:
I am merely responding to highly offensive accusatory allegations directed at me by bad people. Mr. Jacobs certainly has defenders. They are the ones who brought all this up for their own purpose.
I certainly have an obligation to defend my public service record. - JL
Subject: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: Kalos
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Date Posted: 13:30:35 10/18/07 ()
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John Leigh, you are shameless and a disgrace to any community. I have to go, I am almost late for my flight!!!! But, Mr. Jacobs was an honorable man that most of us will remember as PA JACOBS. He was a true diplomat that positively touched and changed many lives in Sierra Leone and the U.S.
Oh my God, where is your sense of decency? Is there any iota of professionalism left in you, John Leigh? Is this the medium for you to attack, misaligned, sabotage, impugn and falsely accuse our late PA JACOBS?
Ladies and gentlemen, Pa Jacobs was a model in our community that earned our respect. We loved him, respected him, adored him and revered him. Here comes this buffoon, John Leigh, trying to put down an institution. Pa Jacobs was an institution.
John Leigh, ethically you are erred by trying to bring down this fine man. He was your colleague or member of your staff. Is this the best you can do for your former staff?
John Leigh, take a deep breath, close your eyes and think of your posting about PA JACOBS. Now, you are human…that I agree with…WHAT WENT WRONG with you, John Leigh? I agree, we all make mistakes. This is a mistake. May the late man continue to lie in perfect peace.
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: John E, Leigh
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Date Posted: 18:24:00 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Kalos:
I am not trying to bring anyone down. In fact, I have no interest in doing any such thing. I merely responded to allegations against me involving Mr. Jacobs and his relationship with me. I initiated nothing but rendered the facts as I know thwm to be. -JL
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 16:04:12 10/19/07 ()
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I believe in everything John Leigh is saying. All the embassy staff in Moscow were a bunch of icon smugglers
and this included the ambassador.
Because of their legacy and criminal baggage no one took them for serious when it was time for business. Johnny Sumner who was head of chancery used to go to
student hostels to smoke canabis and follow young Ruski
gals.
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 16:03:59 10/19/07 ()
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I believe in everything John Leigh is saying. Att the embassy staff in Moscow were a bunch of icon smugglers
and this included the ambassador.
Because of their legacy and criminal baggage no one took them for serious when it was time for business. Johnny Sumner who was head of chancery used to go to
student hostels to smoke canabis and follow young Ruski
gals.
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: San San boy
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Date Posted: 16:43:06 10/18/07 ()
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Kalos, when I read your statement calling on John Leigh to be magnanimous in thought, shiver runs down my spine.
Thank you for being forthright and stand up for Pa Jacob's legacy. A man who will knock at every door to bring Christmas gifts that their families had sent from America. Not a single thing he will took from the package. As a small boy in one of his visits to Sierra Leone in the seventies, Pa Jacob came to our house and brought Christmas gifts from America.
May his soul rest in peace.
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 15:38:40 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear San San boy:
My information about Mr. Jacobs is at varience with yours in a number of important areas.
Your Pa Jacobs once worked at the SL Embassy in Moscow. He ended up in the DC Embassy because he allegedly stole Russian religious Art and sought to illegally export them.
After he was caught, he fled to the UK upon his expulsion. From the UK he came to DC where he was given a fake job by a member of his gang of crooks - the coupligan head of chancery.
The said job was in violation of the rules put in place by the NPRC. His patron did the appointment during the interim period after Ambassador Dr. Tom Kargbo had departed but before my arrival as ambassador when he acted as charge. The trick they sought to pull off was to give to Pa Jacobs the visa allocat1on intended for the ambassador's household staff. I stopped them from that continuing with that trick.
Moreover, after Mr. Jacobs departed from the embassy, I found numerous fake consular stamps which he used to finagle visas in exchange for money as well as extend passports beyond expiration dates for cash. He also was behind providing false information to the US State Dept. so that diplomatic visas would be issued to non- diplomats who either paid him or were friends from Sierra Leone.
After he initially left the embassy upon my request, he claimed and filed a report to our Foreign Ministry that he had left $15,000 in his desk drawer at the time he was sent home and that upon his return, the purported funds weren't there. With this bogus claim, even his gang members refused to believe him. In Freetown, no one took him seriously.
Xmas gifts or not, my personal knowledge of Mr. Jacobs' character is that he was not a nice man. - JL
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: Lawrence Billgreyhood.
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Date Posted: 15:38:46 10/18/07 ()
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Kalos! were you one of “His usual hangers-on?” Just checking. You were not there either. We should be patience until all the truth is known.
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: Kalos
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Date Posted: 08:55:12 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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Lawrence, thanks for asking. It is a shock to learn about the late Pa Jacob’s “His usual hangers-on”. I have been following John Leigh’s writings in this forum; sadly enough, I somehow validated some of them in trying to defend him. Trust me, this phrase is another canny tactic to support his vitriolic self. I am a very proud product of Pa Jacob’s kindness. Again, may his soul rest in perfect peace. What a man…….
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: SAY THE TRUTH!
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Date Posted: 12:43:07 10/19/07 ()
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WE HAVE HEARD YOU, BUT CAN YOU REFUTE WHAT JL IS SAYING ABOUT THE PA OR WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED AT THE EMBASSY? REMEBER, HE IS ACCUSED BY SOMEONE OF CORRUPTLY TERMINATING THE PA! UNFORTUNATELY THE PA IS NOT ALIFE NOW. JL ALSO HAS PEOPLE THAT ADMIRE AND ADORE HIM. HE HAS TO STRAIGHT THE RECORD. IS HE WRONG IN DOING THAT?
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: Kalos
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Date Posted: 13:29:58 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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JL has the right to defend himself; candidly I had had defended JL on numerous occasions in this forum and others. I know JL and was an initial admirer before he went to Washington, DC and the over-ambition ethos got into his watermelon head.
I am still traveling..... Hopefully, I will get an OK this weekend from Pa Jacob’s immediate family to provide a detail explanation of the circumstances at the embassy. I will then repost the allegation and the response from JL and my take on behalf of the late Pa.
Trust me, John Leigh will pay for this ill conceived attack on a dead man.
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:49:24 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear Kalos:
I don't know who you are but please be assured that I stand ready to respond point-for-point to all material allegations against me that contradict my public service record as SL ambassador in DC 1996-2002. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: SAY THE TRUTH!
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Date Posted: 14:38:21 10/19/07 ()
Email Address:
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I WILL TRUST YOU WHEN YOU DO THAT. THE BALL IS NOW IN YUOR COURT KALOS!!! TILL THEN, HAVE A NICE DAY.B
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 15:13:23 10/18/07 ()
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But did he use to drink at work? or can you confirm that what this guy has narrated is false.
Otherwise, are you just unhappy with the way things went? Please don't consider my questions to be either patronising or else. The reason I'm questioning this whole saga of past event is to try and get a clear picture of what happened in the embassy, I obviously do not know John Leigh or the other members of deplomatic mission in the US.
It will be interesting to know the affiars of our country.
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: awoko
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Date Posted: 18:35:00 10/18/07 ()
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Message:
ask saidu bangura , he will know.
Subject: Re: SHAME on you........John Leigh
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:39:23 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
Entered From: adsl-76-192-143-215.dsl.wotnoh.sbcglobal.net at 76.192.143.215
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Or ask Sento Bangura, she has been at the embassy since Amb Kargbo. Or maybe she is busy being yahwoo mamie this weekend.
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: FACT
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Date Posted: 11:22:20 10/18/07 ()
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Very funny. where is Pa Jacobs?
Subject: Re: Chinese women issuing visas at Sierra Leone Embassy
From: prophet
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Date Posted: 12:28:30 10/18/07 ()
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DRUNK....
Subject: India Arie
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 23:20:49 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Isn't that true?
Subject: This you would have to see
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 23:10:35 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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Nothing in this world
Subject: Stop pointing fingers and seek real change
From: Brima Rogers
To: All
Date Posted: 23:05:44 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: Brimar504@aol.com
Entered From: lib299c1.libpub.uni.edu at 134.161.239.70
Message:
When do we realize that our county, Sierra Leone needs a real change rather than pointing fingers and passing blames to those who are atleast trying to do something significant toward progress? I say you stop righ now! If you are a politican, you have been either elected or appointed by the people of Sierra Leone with the believe that you will demand change in the right directions, so forget about satisfying your immediate needs and serve the people to the best of your abilities. If you are Apolitical, try to do something worthy for your communities, scuh as adovocating for those whose voices has been discriminated against for God sake. There are many areas that needs urgent attention, such as health care issues, education, water resources, sanitation, employment, housing, children's walfare, food, morbidity and mortality rates, and combating hunger and poverty. These are just few elements that government officials and good citizens can work on to make life better for every Sierra leonean. Fortunately, we have just had an election, instead of all those political parties that did not succeed at wining the majority votes to distance themselves from the current government. I think it will be a great idea to find a common ground to work together in building broken Sierra Leone. And that time is now, what are you still waiting for. Get onboard and start making a difference in the lives of your people. We are great people, and I am sure that we can be able to work together if we are willing to comprise on hot pressing issues. Let find a holistic ways to bridge our gaps and reach out to everyday Sierra Leoneans who are suffering to provide for their spouses and themselves. Don't you think it is good and impressing to help others who are volnerable to crisis. Take a test drive and experience the feelings of doing something for others. Stop thinking only about yourself and your immediate family. You are in those offices to represent the people of Sierra Leone, so do it now or we will get you next election. As you know, this is the only time citizens can punish you politicians, so why not start doing something wonderful for your country,and communities in which you are part of. I hope we can become the susbtance to seek change and advert the course of history in a positive manner.
Subject: Re: Stop pointing fingers and seek real change
From: SGK
To: All
Date Posted: 23:58:32 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 91.84.136.50
Message:
My Rogers,
It seems here we are in the same reference frame.
I personally lost most of my family, relatives and friends due to the hardship of the country. Most of them could not cope. I was lucky i escaped from it, otherwise i would have been a victim just like them because we were living in the same conditions. Poverty is a big killer in Africa. It is high time these politicians do something to improve the standard of living of their people.
I am therefore kindly asking the president and his team to work very hard in order to provide the basic needs for the average person. The strong should always help the weak and that would make us stronger as a society.
Subject: Every time you go away
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 23:00:13 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thats for sure!
Subject: Foday Mansaray: Real Estate agent/Realtor!!!
From: Ta Tay SU
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Date Posted: 21:06:03 10/17/07 ()
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What doest it take to become a real estate agent and start selling and buying houses for people and or self?
How many people are there that are realtors without a degree? I think many! Becoming a realtor is not a BIG DEAL. All you need to do is to attend the certificate program and take the test to become a realtor. I don’t think that the program is even up to a year long. Realtors are not necessarily honest people. They most times deceived and dupe customers into bad loan deals just for them to get their commissions. So being someone buying and selling house is not enough to be appointed as a bank governor or deputy bank governor. There must be something more than that. The decisions that bank governors make, affect the economic life of a country and its inhabitants. Most times people appointed for such posts have written books in economics, have been professors, have a very strong opinion and sense of direction as to where they will lead the institution if given the chance and have been CEOs of reputable financial institutions. Let us get real and stop the blind support for our friends and or relatives!!!
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray: Real Estate agent/Realtor!!!
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 05:36:17 10/18/07 ()
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A mortgage banker is not on par with deputy bank governor of a country. In New Jersey you did not need a license or degree to be a mortgage banker. A deputy bank governer of a nation needs much more qualifications , preferrably advance degrees in economics and finance, Experience at reputable financial institutions.
May be Mr Mansaray has these qualifications. I know I have heard good and bad things about his business ethics from non africans.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray: Real Estate agent/Realtor!!!
From: Pa. Sandie
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Date Posted: 05:31:40 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
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Thanks for educating some people in this forum about realtors.
Subject: Is Gbondo (as it is today) our Culture?
From: Freetong Pikin
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Date Posted: 21:02:06 10/17/07 ()
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Gbondo is part of our culture so we are always told. But are cultures static?
Culture, culture, culture. Just what is culture
Some definitions of culture on the Web:
* a particular society at a particular time and place; "early Mayan civilization"
* the tastes in art and manners that are favored by a social group
* acculturation: all the knowledge and values shared by a society
The accumulated habits, attitudes, and beliefs of a group of people that define for them their general behavior and way of life; the total set of learned activities of a people.
usinfo.state.gov/products/pubs/geography/glossary.htm
A pattern of values, beliefs and behaviors shared by people with similar ethnic backgrounds, languages, religions, family values and/or life views, which provides them with their identities and a framework for understanding experience.
www.promotingexcellence.org/i4a/pages/Index.cfm
Values, ideas, and other symbolic meaningful systems that are transmitted and created by a group of people.
www.edgateway.net/pub/docs/pel/glossary.htm
Culture (from the Latin cultura stemming from colere, meaning "to cultivate"), generally refers to patterns of human activity and the symbolic structures that give such activity significance. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture
Cultures from what i gather from these definitions are developed over time. Therefore i believe they can and should be dismantled(sorry changed) over time as society deems fit.
Would the proponents of gbondo be happy today to accept the now defunct practice (culture) of burying servants alongside kings/chiefs especially if they were the servants? Nevertheless the practice was discontinued.
Gbondo, gbondo, gbondo. What is gbondo?
Gbondo from what i've gathered is the rite of passage from girlhood to womanhood. The time our young girls go away(for a few weeks) to be taught their place as a woman in the home and soceity at large.
All well and good but why send 2 to 14 year olds to undergo such an important rite?
And also the time spent for the process gets shorter and shorter(most take from 3 days to a week).
If they can change the length of time spent in the 'bush' to accomodate our modern lifestyle, can't other changes to the process be made?
For me these significant changes have reduced the essence of gbondo in our society to a mere cutting of the clitoris exercise.
Change is inevitable. We just have to embrace it.
Subject: Re: Is Gbondo (as it is today) our Culture?
From: lailah
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Date Posted: 21:51:18 10/17/07 ()
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Message:
What is GBONDO? Or Shall i say who is GBONDO?
Subject: Re: Is Gbondo (as it is today) our Culture?
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 02:35:13 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.219
Message:
Netter means BONDO. But then 'Gbondo' reminds me of the game Lodo, where you have to play as a 'slave' and, fustatingly mandate your opponent(s) to 'count' the numbers on the dice when you play. They can 'kick' all your seeds. We used to play 'Gbondo Back en Front'! ......So sorry for my kids! They miss all the original fun in Africa. It's TV, particularly 'Tom and Jerry' all the way. Perhaps, 'You Think You Can Dance' adds some bit of exercise to the show! Oh lovely Mother Salone. We miss you!
Subject: What you do not know will definately hurt you.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:49:58 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Ask the ones who know.
Subject: Re: What you do not know will definately hurt you.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:03:17 10/17/07 ()
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Didn't I tell you they do not know. They do not even know the difference. Can't you tell!
They are lost as salt in water.
Can't you tell the conceptualization, the commentaries and then expect me, Bambay, Pizarro to respond to fools; yah! I live it to those who are reading, watching and know what is on to secretely learn.
Subject: Can you imagine!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:38:38 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I have better things to do, really!
Subject: Would you be surprised? I know I'm not.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:31:12 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Maturity.
For some it is innate.
You will never shock me after I saw that, I knew for sure that some will make it their fight.
Subject: "SOLOMON BEREWA THE “ANTHONY GENERAL”
From: anthony
To: All
Date Posted: 19:30:52 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: tony@yahoo.com
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Message:
Wonders never cease. Has Sylvia Blyden abdicated her editorial position? Check some of the blunders made by one of her correspondents in an articlle titled :“Solomon Berewa Bids fear well to supporters in Sierra Leone” By James Bampia and Aruna Turay Oct 17, 2007, 18:30
-FEAR WELL
-Solomon Berewa DROVING out of the SLPP Headquarter in Freetown
-To CONCLUDED he called on all supporters
-that the leader was elected ON A CONVENTION
-being the longest serving ANTHONY General
BYE BYE “ANTHONY GENERAL” BYE BYE
Subject: Let us laugh
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:24:00 10/17/07 ()
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Message:
Things Dave Said In The Fire
Did Dave promise big things to Sue Hum in the heat of the moment?
Subject: Komba Kambo in court for war crimes
From: Freetong Pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 18:35:08 10/17/07 ()
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SalonePeople
Newsroom
Print
Former NPRC strongman in court for war crimes
SAN ANTONIO (AP) - A hearing Thursday in federal court in San Antonio involves a jailed man with alleged ties to war crimes in Africa.
Last October, Samuel Komba Kambo and his wife arrived at a government office for a green card interview.
But Kambo was arrested and accused of war crimes in his native Sierra Leone.
The fuels analyst, with an MBA from the University of Texas, figured questions about the execution of 29 counterrevolutionaries in Sierra Leone would be resolved quickly.
Kambo has never denied being part of a military government in Sierra Leone, and says he knew of some arrests -- but was unaware of plans for any executions.
Kambo's attorney, Simon Azar-Farr, is now seeking a writ of habeas corpus in federal court.
Kambo and his wife have four children born in the U.S.
He's twice been ordered released on bond. An immigration judge has ruled the government has no evidence to deport him.
Immigrations and Customs Enforcement has appealed.
Kambo told The Associated Press it's like "fighting with your hands tied behind your back. It's very unfair."
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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Subject: IS NPRC CREEPING BACK TO POWER? MAADA TO LEAD RSLAF AND TOM
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 18:23:49 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: cOttontree1800@gmail.com
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There is word within the inner circle of the APC that the excellence
president Ernest Bia Koroma in the name of unity governance has
tapped Ex Brigadier General Maada Bio to lead the Sierra Leone Arm
Forces. According to my source, quoting the president “Maada Bio will
bring a lot to the table, a former president and a brigadier general with
vast experience in arm conflict prevention and management.”
According his resume, he took advance courses in military operation
and tactics, military expansion and policy development at Strayer
University in the US.
Tom Nyuma was also tapped to head the newly established anti-
terrorism task force. According to the insider, quoting the president
“Tom demonstrated leadership skills during his tenure as minister of
defense. His resume states, he took courses in anti-terrorism and
global security, and disaster management at Ohio State University in
the US.
Members of the jury/panel/forum please render your verdict.
Subject: Re: IS NPRC CREEPING BACK TO POWER? MAADA TO LEAD RSLAF AND TOM
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 19:26:02 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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I think EBK is smarter than that. If you ask me I dont trust Bio and Nyuma as far as I can throw them.
Let us hope this is someones idea of a joke
Subject: Re: IS NPRC CREEPING BACK TO POWER? MAADA TO LEAD RSLAF AND TOM
From: Four Foot Arata
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Date Posted: 18:56:14 10/17/07 ()
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El Presidente - me sef yeri this talk ya so o. However, it was only regarding Bio, did not hear about the Nyuma one. So let's see how thing go - maybe EBK will change his mind and do what is right after all is said and done. Na wa o!
Subject: Re: IS NPRC CREEPING BACK TO POWER? MAADA TO LEAD RSLAF AND TOM
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 18:36:20 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
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Creepy doubts. Palo at Defense...Maada and Tom in the Army...quit the jokes
Subject: Re: IS NPRC CREEPING BACK TO POWER? MAADA TO LEAD RSLAF AND TOM
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 18:34:48 10/17/07 ()
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Bio and Nyuma given a chance to play gun-gun again...by Ernest Koroma? Wait a minute while I unbutton my trouser pants for a good THEL EGBAKA laugh. Teeheeheeheehee!
El Presidente, methinks your source is on crack, the hard-kicking Harlem ghetto type!
Subject: Re: IS NPRC CREEPING BACK TO POWER? MAADA TO LEAD RSLAF AND TOM
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 18:30:46 10/17/07 ()
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What evidence do you have to verify this source? I will give no verdict until verification
Subject: Re: IS NPRC CREEPING BACK TO POWER? MAADA TO LEAD RSLAF AND TOM
From: FAD
To: All
Date Posted: 11:54:38 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: arlynd@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 65.91.143.30
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YOUR CASE IS DISMISSED FOR LACK/ WANT OF EVIDENCE. I AM SURE YOU WILL NEVER FIND A SINGE EVIDENCE TO BACK UP ANY OF THE ALLEGATIONS BROUGHT FORWARD
MAYBE THAT CASE CAN ONLY BE HEARD IN A "COURT BARRAY"
Subject: OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT KOROMA
From: HINDOWA
To: All
Date Posted: 18:10:31 10/17/07 ()
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Open Letter to President Ernest Koroma
- Wednesday 17 October 2007.
Dear Mr. President,
Our leaders are so used to hearing either their own voices or to flattery and insincere sycophantic statements that their reaction to genuine honest truths and criticisms, which deviates from the usual you-are-the-greatest pap, is usually to seek to silent critical voices. I should start by advising you sir, for obvious reasons, against such practice.
I don’t need to remind you that opposition parties seldom win elections - it is the ruling parties that lose them - and surely you and your party didn’t win the 2007 elections per se, it was the SLPP that lost them! What this means is that you benefited from the people’s discontent with the SLPP. Your recent victory is no different from the SLPP’s victory in 1996. Such victories, and the support which bring them about - and this could be seen in the case of the SLPP - are always tenuous, ephemeral and fluid and could easily be lost. You can however build on and consolidate such support by good deeds and genuine efforts at improving the lot of the masses and initiating progressive programmes that makes us Sierra Leoneans happy and proud of our country and its leadership. That the SLPP lost in the last elections, is an indication of how they may have squandered an opportunity given them to get the country out of the quagmire that is characteristic of its existence. You and your party have been given a historic opportunity, and we are watching.
Some people might think that it is too early to start criticising you. I come from a school that believes the contrary. Criticism is an essential part of political and social life. Rather than seeking to silence, target or dismiss them, a wise leader takes his critics serious. If you want proof of the consequences of not taking your critics serious, ask the SLPP. Your administration, some will say, might still be very young, still trying to find its feet, but there are already signs (which are not very encouraging) that you are heading down the path of previous administrations in this country, and that is not a very good sign, it could only be a recipe for failure. Be reminded sir that we are watching and listening, and will judge you by your pronouncements, actions, achievements and failures.
I hate to remind you sir that you already have started reneging on some of the promises you made during the elections campaign. You did say, for example, that you wouldn’t appoint to cabinet any person elected to parliament for the simple reason that your party wouldn’t afford to be distracted from the task of governing. I wonder how you would explain the inclusion, in your cabinet, of persons who were duly elected to parliament in the last elections. I also am not sure whether you have separated the offices of Minster of Justice and Attorney General. If you haven’t then that is also another promise that you have reneged on. These might be considered insignificant issues by some, but to me, they are fundamental since they were part of the election package you presented to this country, on the basis of which you triumphed at the polls. It is too early to start reneging on promises, no matter how insignificant they might be considered. I do not know the circumstances that led to such U-turn, but if political pressure in your party is one of the reasons for such a change of heart, it shows that you are susceptible to pressure and that’s not a good thing.
I also cannot help but notice the composition of your cabinet and its somewhat blatant Northern preponderance. Don’t get me wrong, I am neither an ethnicist, nor a regionalist. I believe in the best people serving in government, regardless of which ethnicity they belong to and which regions they come from, as long as they can perform their duties well. I also do not believe in so-called “governments of National Unity”. I believe that if a political party wins an election, it should be allowed to govern, based on the programmes it has for the country, that it presented to the electorates during the elections campaign period. But your party, like every other political party in this country, is also a national party. That national character, regardless of where the bulk of your support comes from, must be reflected in the character of the government it forms. One might say whatever they like about Siaka Stevens, or even Tejan Kabbah, but their governments were always national in character. Do you mean to tell us Mr President, that you could find candidates of different ethnicities all across the country to contest all 112 constituencies in the past elections, but cannot find competent people from those same places who are loyal to your party to serve in cabinet? I guess the point I am making is that your cabinet is not reflective of the national party that the APC claims to be. It looks dangerously regional/sectional in my view, and that does not augur well for national cohesion. For you to succeed, you’ll have to lead a united country, and your proposed cabinet is not the right step in that imagined unity.
Moreover, some of the names are also suspect. I don’t mean to cast aspersions on anybody’s character, but a party like yours, which carries a huge historical baggage, has the burden of proof that it is indeed a new political outfit. You did well in constructing a new image for your party and in predicating your continued existence on a clean break with the past. However, a new image is nothing if it cannot be matched with deeds that reflect that image. The inclusion of some names which are linked to past scandals is not good for a party that is trying to clean its image. I am not debating the guilt or innocence of those linked to scandals; I am just concerned that they are included in a government that would do things differently. Don’t get me wrong, I do respect age and experience, and I believe in the presumption of innocence until found guilty in a court of law. I also believe that if anyone is qualified and has the right credentials, they should serve. But why wouldn’t you find people with clean records, people who are not linked to any scandal, so that you can clear any doubts that people might have, if your interest is really cleaning your image? The inclusion of certain names has just made some of us suspicious of what is really going on.
There are also reports of an internal shift taking place in the police, in which high ranking police officers who hail mostly from other regions of the country and who hold positions high up in the police hierarchy are being moved down that hierarchy and replaced by officers of Northern origin. The only two people who have not been touched so far are the first and second in command. These shifts (which might appear as demotions and promotions depending on how you see it), coupled with the composition of your cabinet would, if you are not careful create a perception that you have a regional, if not an ethnic, agenda. Be mindful sir that perception is everything in politics and no matter how good your intentions are and no matter what you do, if by your actions and policies you inadvertently or otherwise created a situation where people perceived you as a closet ethnicist with a hidden regional and ethnic agenda, you would lose credibility and your reputation would suffer as a consequence. What this means for a politician that seeks elected office in a multi ethnic society or a president that has as one of his foremost priorities uniting a fractured country, is anybody’s guess.
I have observed since I returned to this country about two weeks ago that various interests groups, individuals, based both at home and in the diasporas, have been, and still are, pitching their tents, jostling and jockeying for positions and influence in their quest to break bread with the ‘gods’. There is nothing wrong, of course, with anybody wanting to serve their country, and I applaud anyone, especially those who have returned from the diasporas, that genuinely want to make a difference in this country. But you should also beware and be careful with those that are always smiling in the face of the power, those for whom the ‘gods’ can do no wrong; those sycophants and low-life self seekers who would stop at nothing in order to benefit from any given situation; those who see your election as an opportunity for personal aggrandisement. If you really are interested in genuinely moving this country forward - and believe me Mr President, I understand the enormity of the task that any head of state of this country has - then you must deny these people that opportunity.
Our people have suffered for far too long, they have placed their faith in you and your party. The only thing that gives me hope, despite all that we have been through as a people and country, is the resilience of the average Sierra Leonean who negotiates hardship, poverty, hunger and disease everyday. It is that hope that one day things will get better, that somehow somewhere someone is listening to their cries for help, which as you might know have been going on for over four decades now. Will you be the one to heed their cries or will they be disappointed and betrayed once again? Is this a new dawn in this country or another missed opportunity for social transformation? The ball is in your court. Your actions and decisions would have real consequence on people’s lives and we are watching to see how the drama unfolds and we would continue to observe the actions and listen to speeches in the acts and scenes in this new play in the political life of Sierra Leone. 2012 may be far away, but is it really?
I thank you for your kind attention.
Sincerely,
Zubairu Wai
Freetown.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT KOROMA
From: Imran Silla
To: All
Date Posted: 11:12:46 10/18/07 ()
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Its a brilliant exposition Zubah, i share very many of your sentiments. A word to the wise they say, is quite sufficient. You are very constructive in your thoughts.
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT KOROMA
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 18:22:24 10/17/07 ()
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Hindowa Zubairu Wai,
Pray tell me, how long did it take you to write this long, boring hack job? Too long and illogical like some of the John Mannah crap. Are you guys study mates?
You wrote:
"I don’t need to remind you that opposition parties seldom win elections - it is the ruling parties that lose them"
That is so trite. You don't really believe that, do you? Ernest tangbay Berewapi!
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT KOROMA
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 03:08:25 10/18/07 ()
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This writer is finding a free ride to cast asperstions on the people's governmnet. After he betrayed John Leigh, he wants to steal the good riddance in Sierra Leone. Some of these so-called PHD holders are not honest. They always think politics is the place where they can gain emplyment.
The writer trash is an enigma of his frustration to minimise the number of pHD holders in this governmnet. If this trend continues to keep Phds holders at University and think tanks, then Sierra Leone will move from its lowly state. And many will not go at great length to study for a phd, cause it will not ensure ministerial posts for them.
Ernest Koroma, move on and forget about yhe so-called regional balance. We need honest and dedicated Sierra Leoneans. We do not want any tribal Ministers.
Go Ernest Koroma!!!
Subject: Re: OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT KOROMA
From: Stingray
To: All
Date Posted: 02:42:19 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.219
Message:
Me Man! The guy get point them-o! The Popay fit look into some of dem point den dae!
Wan other tin! The guy go don write so much becoz e get salone na heart! Solidarity!!!
Subject: SAHR KAINGBANJA
From: NAMWENCHE-SAYNANH
To: All
Date Posted: 18:05:17 10/17/07 ()
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IF THE INS CAN TARGET KAMBO SO ALSO SHOULD THEY TARGET SAHR KAINGBANJA. HE WAS THE EDUCATION MINISTER UNDER JOHNNY PAUL KOROMA. THEIR REGIME BROUGHT THE RUF INTO FREETOWN TO START AMPUTATIONS OF THEIR VICTIMS.
HE LIVES RIGHT HERE IN SACRAMENTO, THE CAPITAL OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, WITH REV. ANSU TURAY. I HOPE THE INS IS AWARE OF THIS CHICKEN EYED MOTHER FUCKER'S PRESENSE.
Subject: Re: SAHR KAINGBANJA
From: Paul Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 13:01:53 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: paulbangura2004@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-71-197-97-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.97.158
Message:
This is the greatest unfairness a national can do to another national. WHY SALONE MAN NOR GO LEF FOR BE SMALL?
Mr, try to have something great in your mind when you get to this forum where very much is expected from users or contributors. This is disappointing about a Sierra Leonean with a decent up-bringing. You look like one of us back-yard guys who take pleasure in bringing down people. You can be sure that you will not succeed with this fine man, who is full of great things for the country you think you so love.
This guy is lovely; he has the desire and passion to see our likes improve so that we will turn our backs at doing unprogressive things-like going down so low as to insult people. You are a disappointment to that growing nation. Watch your words and be a good learner.
Sahr Kaingbanja is occupied with very important issues ( as I write this mail for the forum) about our country and I am sure you cannot derail that which he is doing with your peety talks. This fine guy is passing around in Sacramento doing no harm to even you who has chosen to insult him.
However, thank God he is here and some of us have been able to associate with him. If you know him really well, you need to come back to this same forum and appologize for your bad mouth. Kaingbanja is a blessing for those of us who know him. With his presence here in Sacramento, we have been able to learn greatly from him. He is an embodiment of knowlege who passes around unassumingly that you need to come close to so that you can share a gist of what he knows. You need to get close to him for you to know what I am writing. After knowing what some of us have known about him, you will slap yourself for being too small in your mind. You have really refused to grow.
I am not praising him; I am telling you the truth about this man who has love and passion for even those who do not like him, like YOU.
Thanks to brother allieu who is a legal-minded senior brother in the area and has told you that his association with the infamous regime does not make him criminally liable for any offense.
Please know this too. On his way out of Sierra Leone, he applied for visa; went for interview and was issued a visa to travel to this great nation to study. He has completed what you can't, I emphasize, CAN NEVER acquire in your life, by the way I have assessed you.
God who created us has passion for us,and becuase He created us in his own image, he (God)expects us to do likewise to our fellowmen, His creations. We don't damn others when we don't know them.
Look at who he is staying with, bra Allieu refers to him as an icon. If you know what that means, you should start going away from this kind of attitude-insulting people just because you are in America and have access to a computer you can use to insult people. This which you are doing to this man is equal to what the SLPP did to our people in Sierra Leone. Don't you know that? If you don't, then exert some more effort to know it, and don't insult this harmless and progressive man who means well for even you. Nobody holds anything against him in Salone, except your likes who will come out immaturely to damn others. This is unfair. I believe you do talk to him each time you see him in Sacramento and San Jose but will come behind his back to stab him. I predict, the same will be done to you in a not too distant future. People will damn you. This guy is too nice to be treated the way you are doing. Thank God, he is safe in the hands of Jesus. Many other people will tell this forum good things about this selfless man.
He has not stayed too long in the US but within this time of his stay here, he has tried to excel himself in what you and I cannot do. Just touch closer to him and you will feel the love he has for his fellow man; you will feel intelligence radiating from him; you will sense decency and straight-forwardness in a fine human being. He is not a thief, and not a killer. He is a devoted Christian with an appreciable degree of moral standing you can envy.
After all, there was a reconciliation talk for all of us so that we can be able to forge ahead as a nation. What did you understand by that? My brother, the AFRC was better than SLPP by my own assessment. If an infamous regime was able to provide electricity for the people in Freetown (where their activities were confined or rather limited) 24/7 for all the time they stayed in their so-called power, and the most popular SLPP could not until when there were elections around the corner, then I must praise people like Sahr Kaingbanja who lived in that government.
Can't you see? Open your eyes to see what lies ahead of us as a people of the world's most backward nation. Let us embrace one another so that we can take that country out from its present state to some enviable position. We have the human resources to do it if we do away with the kind of thinking people like you have. Do not judge the man by the government he served; judge him by his actions, by what he did. I think that will be human and can be acceptable by any right-thinking man. DON'T USE THE FORUM TO INSULT. If you know Pastor Ansu, talk to him about this man; I believe he is the Pastor's body and knows him better. Take that route, and not your INS who knows why the man is here and what good things he has done and is doing for the short time he has been here in the US.
Let me hold my breath for now and ask you to go back to this same forum you have used to insult this man to ask God for forgiveness. Go to the forum and send him an appology. I have told you that you cannot do an iota of what this guy is doing for our beloved nation. He does not talk, he acts. He moves around Sacramento with ideas of development, as to how we can, as a nation, walk out of poverty- TO MAKE PEOPLE LIKE YOU TO STOP DOING DOUBLES IN NURSING HOMES OR....
Do you know that Kabbah who was President of Sierra Leone is a candidate for war crimes? I know you have been told this but you decided to come to the forum with unprogressive things to attract attention. This is unacceptable. Run away from this kind of attitude; it is of the devil. If you don't I will come down hard and make your true name known so that people will know that you are no good living thing that means well for others.
Subject: Re: SAHR KAINGBANJA
From: Amadu Kabbah
To: All
Date Posted: 11:17:51 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: amadutkabbah@yahoo.com
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It is unfortunate that people can loose their senses so easily. Do you know Sahr Kaingbanja well? No! YOU DON'T. If you knew him, you will mind your words about him and not abuse him in a public forum. You should be man enough to confront him with your charges so that he can educate you well about the issue you are talking about.
I read your charges against Sahr Kaingbanja with great dissatisfaction. There are times we should be in the position to know certain details about people before we start any unfortunate behaviors. This man, Sahr Kaingbanja, is one of the finest gentlemen you can ever come across. He is harmless and has his wits about him. The fact that he was an appointee in an infamous regime of Johnny Pual does not make him a criminal. His presence here in this great nation is known to the whole world and did not come here the way you are imagining. He is not in the hiding. He came through Lungi Airport with recognition and not a criminal. He is doing things you will hardly do in your whole entire life. In a very short time He has been able to earn himself that which in your whole wide dream you cannot acquire. Thank God he was in an infamous regime that made us to know him as a decent Sierra Leonean who has passion for his home land and paved the way for many Sierra Leoneans who came to do graduate studies in American universities.
If you know what you are about doing, it is but proper that you leave this guy alone. He has no charges against him for anything. He is clean and looks up for a better Sierra Leone like you think you are doing. He has never hurt a fly. He is rather a uniter. He loves his country just as much as you think you do.
Subject: Re: SAHR KAINGBANJA
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 07:53:49 10/18/07 ()
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But what did he do wrong? Just being an appointed member of a nefarious government does not make one a criminal. If that were so every person in the past SLPP government would be a criminal because they killed people like Kula Samba without due process of the law.
Give the man a break and also pastor Ansu who is a fine fellow and an icon in our community in the bay area.
Subject: Re: SAHR KAINGBANJA
From: PORROT
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Date Posted: 08:28:56 10/18/07 ()
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"SLPP government would be a criminal because they killed people like Kula Samba without due process of the law."
Implied logic? Same can be said for your DAD and the APC Government right?
Subject: Re: SAHR KAINGBANJA
From: sorieba kondeh
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Date Posted: 23:25:38 10/18/07 ()
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but to be truthful what has his father done to deserve being brought into the debate. address the mans issues.
Subject: Re: SAHR KAINGBANJA
From: PORROT
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Date Posted: 11:50:30 10/19/07 ()
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Logic....It is the issue.
Subject: Re: SAHR KAINGBANJA
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 18:10:08 10/17/07 ()
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You nasty, rude man. Watch the gutter language, imbecile! Damn untraining thing.
Subject: ONE MONTH & COUNTING - 100 Days
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 16:01:35 10/17/07 ()
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Its is now 30 days..
President Ernest Koroma’s 100 days in office priorities
President-elect, Ernest Bai Koroma has outlined five priority areas that his government would focus on during his 100 days in office. Paramount among these according to Concord Times is electricity, which he described as the engine for economic growth in the country, and reportedly promised to rule as a businessman. “I will run the country like a business entity and govern the citizens like shareholders”, President Koroma assured. He said he would focus on job creation especially youth employment, so as to restore the self-confidence of the youth. Another priority area according to the President is the restoration of hygienic environmental sanitation and deliver effective healthcare to the masses. Access to education and the granting of full autonomy to the judiciary, to address corruption and the appointment of an independent prosecutor for the Truth and Reconciliation Commission are other priority areas president Koroma reportedly hopes to tackle within his first hundred days in office.
For the bambai.. leh e nor say.. ah nor been say so..
http://www.uniosil.org/read.asp?newsID=588
Subject: Re: ONE MONTH & COUNTING - 100 Days
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 18:27:38 10/17/07 ()
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Candido, throw me some red meat for me to bite, boy!
Don't worry, you go get light, good road and Cleantown by Christmas, something the dunces of SLPP could not dream of in 11 years!
Subject: Re: ONE MONTH & COUNTING - 100 Days
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 17:23:30 10/17/07 ()
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"Tackle" does not mean "Solve". E lef 70 days.
Subject: Re: ONE MONTH & COUNTING - 100 Days
From: Paul Bangura
To: All
Date Posted: 13:13:24 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: paulbangura2004@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-71-197-97-158.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.97.158
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That was a great thinking. I know that even though "tackle" does not mean "solve", yet I am confident that my President our president, with our support, will solve the problems. Thank God they are problems and not difficulties. Problems have solutions but difficulties don't. The fact that he is ruling the country like a business man makes me think that he knows we are all stakeholders so that where our treaure is there our hearts will be also.
Subject: Girl called Mbalu
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:04 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
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Where is this disrespectful Mbalu coming from by the way? Does she know that talking about her so called formar clitoric in public is a disgrace to the Bondo society. why is she busy trying to mess with our culture? Does she know what culture is and what it signifies?. You should be ashame of yourself Mbalu. I am sure when you were being innitiated, you will told not to revail the secrete to men. Just because you made it into the United States, you now feel that the culture you were in is no longer a culture for you.
Please go back to school and do some Humanity courses. dat go make you no why baboo no de wear troses. Before you response to this posting, please make sure you clean up yourself because I am a muslim. Erica you go eat foofoo.
I remain Insane.
Subject: Re: Girl called Mbalu
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 17:51:09 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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If you really believe in that FGM crap then you are living in the past and need to snap out of it. FGM is cruel and wrong!! End of story.
A word of advice to you; please tone down your vulgarity this is supposed be a civil and meaningful forum not a place to trade insults.
Subject: Re: Girl called Mbalu
From: SP
To: All
Date Posted: 16:29:43 10/17/07 ()
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i definitely think that Mbalu is happy to be in the US of A because she is exposed to other nations and cultures and almost everybody believes FGM is wrong. FGM is not a SLeonean culture. it is a practice in most african countries as well as arabic countries. FGM is a an unhygeinic brutal tratment of women and it has to stop. do not get me wrong we need to keep our culture. i suggest the bundo bush should be use as a traditional training ground for all women teach them how to be a mother; how to stand on there own two feet; get an education and job; do not depend on sugar daddies; let them also know that beauty fade but education never does; also it can be use as a safe house for women being abuse by their husband.
Subject: Re: Girl called Mbalu
From: Sadam Insane
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Date Posted: 16:40:11 10/17/07 ()
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Do you know if they are being educated by not doing a lot of furking? Mbalu can answer that. Do you know why female dogs do not sit properly? it is because they have clit. AhAh. how ba we na nor de understand. There are abondant food in Africa to eat that clit. Me not to wait man. a nor de eat clit. na haram.
I remain Insane
Subject: Re: Girl called Mbalu
From: SP
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you are really an idiot without any tact. end of conversation.
Subject: Re: Girl called Mbalu
From: Sadam Insane
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Who the heck are you? Are you a tolole eater?
Subject: Sierra Leone: APC Supporters Attack SLPP Office in Kenema
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Sierra Leone: APC Supporters Attack SLPP Office in Kenema
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Concord Times (Freetown)
16 October 2007
Posted to the web 16 October 2007
Mohamed Vandi
Freetown
Supporters of the ruling All People Congress party (APC) are reported to have gone on the rampage yesterday in Kenema town thereby attacking the office of the opposition Sierra Leone Peoples Party.
According to our reporter, the desperate supporters were only contained by the police after using tear gas canisters to disperse the crowd.
Maada Sellu, Young Generation Leader of the Sierra Leone Peoples Party (SLPP), east yesterday complained to Amadu Kaikai, Local Unit Commander (LUC), Kenema Police Station, that APC supporters wearing T-shirts with inscr1ptions "kaka we nor wan yeri" during their victory celebration in the district mocked and intimidated SLPP supporters and at the same time pelted stones at the office of the SLPP.
"I am calling on the police to put a stop to such behavior," he said The APC had stated that the SLPP supporters pelted stones at them while trying to celebrate their victory in the last elections.
Mustapha Kamara, an APC supporter said the inscr1ption on their T-shirts was not meant to taunt SLPP supporters but to celebrate their party's victory.
"The victory dance is to preach reconciliation and peace because as Sierra Leoneans, we are all the same people," he said and added that their leadership has advised all APC supporters to desist from any act of violence.
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Further, the LUC had advocated for calm and assured that proper security has been put in place to avert trouble.
"Representatives of APC and SLPP have met in my office and I am sure the dance will go peacefully," he said.
Meanwhile, the police have arrested four people wearing APC attire for misbehaving during the victory dance.
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone: APC Supporters Attack SLPP Office in Kenema
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 18:06:46 10/17/07 ()
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I know Mr. Maada Sellu in Kenema. In my view, he is not a good person, nor is he good for the SLPP. But he might have changed since I last dealt with him. Even so, there is absolutely no need for violence in our country. - JL
Subject: All dem madingo, dem b***** oooh,”
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APC/PMDC Supporters boo at the Madingos
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The All People’s Congress and the People’s Movement for Democratic Change on Monday held a “Victory Rally” through the main streets of Bo. The Rally which started from Kebbie Town, saw jubilant supporters dancing through the Bo-Freetown Highway, where most of the supporters had gathered before 10am.
Dressed in their party colours, the Victory Rally went on peacefully from Kebbie Town through New London and unto Tikonko road. From Tikonko Road, the Mammoth dancing supporters started to split into groups, singing praises on HE President Ernest Bai Koroma. Provocative songs were heard from the various groups of supporters scattered through out the town. A group of supporters at the Bo Clock Tower shouted abuse at one Mrs Kaddiatu Barrie. When Awoko asked the supporters why, they alleged: ”She told us to abuse her should any party win other than the SLPP”. When the main rally reached the middle of town, shouts of abuse went out against the Madingo’s
“All dem madingo, we wan si dem, all dem madingo, dem k*** oooh. All dem madingo, dem b***** oooh,” shouted the supporters along the Mahei Boima Road. Meanwhile the Madingo’s held unto their peace.
Mohamed Sorrie, owner of 42 Mahei Boima road Kola Store told Awoko: “Did you hear us say anything? So let them do what they want”.
Subject: Berewa : "I am going as a happy man....."
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Concord Times (Freetown)
NEWS
17 October 2017
Posted to the web 17 October 2007
By Mohamed Massaquoi
Freetown
Defeated presidential candidate in the last elections of the opposition Sierra Leone Peoples Party (SLPP), Solomon Ekuma Berewa yesterday told members of his party that he is stepping down as leader as required by the party constitution.
Berewa stated that the party constitution stipulates that the leader and his deputy should cease to operate after losing a presidential election.
"I am going as a happy man after diligently serving my people as Attorney General and as Vice President of Sierra Leone. During my tenure, I contributed immensely towards the development of my country. I am handing over today and I will never be a leader in the SLPP. I am handing over the leadership to the party chairman," Berewa stated Berewa congratulated members of his party for voting in the SLPP parliamentarians though he failed to secure a winning.
"We got the votes but lost the elections. I am appealing to all SLPP members to maintain law and order and to also respect the current government," he said and noted that the SLPP is a peace loving party.
Chairman of the party, Alhaji UNS Jah expressed thanks and appreciation to the outgoing leader for his dynamic leadership and said, "We cherish the preservation of the people of Sierra Leone more than the quest for power."
Subject: Re: Berewa : "We got the votes but lost the elections"
From: Emperor Bokassa
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What does Berewa mean? "We got the votes but lost the elections".
This is sad but remeber how you crooked the conBention elections and booted good people like JLeigh out? You lied to the people that momodu was from Mile 91; spent all the social safety funds money on bribing paramount chiefs and then wanted to mount an Al Gore type legal wrangle to deny the wishes of the people.
You are just awakening to the realities of politics and if you can’t win an election to be president you probably are not qualified to be president.
Buy a hammock and a pipe; stop chewing snuff and enjoy your fvorite past time-SsssssssssssssssLlllllllEeeeeeeeEeeeeeePpppppppppppppp,and let the wine keep pooping until the ACC comes knocking.
Subject: Re: Berewa : "We got the votes but lost the elections"
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He means the cowardly incompetent Christiana Thorpe hurriedly called the elections for Ernest Koroma fearing that she would be challenged and her incompetence in handling the elections exposed. She knew SLPP got the votes for victory.
SLPP is a civil party. We let the power hungry APC take the mantle
Subject: Re: Berewa : "We got the votes but lost the elections"
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Emperor:
What part don't you understand? Clue? Remember, Gore got the votes but lost the election.
Besides, include the votes that were excluded by the NEC ina most controversial decision, you have a very diffrent election result. Berewas knows what he is talking about. The NEC still has to issue a report regarding its investigation (as per its press release prior to the decision to exclude votes from certain polling centres). So, I give it the benefit of doubt until such report is issued.
Subject: Re: Berewa : "We got the votes but lost the elections"
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Berewa is nor Gore. Gore did not try to steal the elcetion, as Berewa did, by stuffing basllot boxes with "over-votes."
When will you SLPP stop your corruption? Efven after you have been kicked out of poer, your old corrupt habits linger.
Subject: Re: Berewa : "We got the votes but lost the elections"
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Unfortunately, this is one of the misperceptions resulting from the NEC's hasty decision (on the heels of the SLPP's court action)to exclude votes from the final count.
FYI:
NEC did not attribute the alleged over-voting or "stuffing of ballots" to any person or party. How can it do so without evidence. Christiana Thorpe doesn't lack savvy. No, the NEC merely indicated that its returning officers had provided results that showed voting ranging from 95% up to and and above 100% in various polling stations. Additionally, the NEC made a determination (outside of the scope of its authority, according to the SLPP)that all votes from such polling stations would be excluded from its final tally for the Presidential election.
The question that the SLPP and others posed (rightfully so) is how did the alleged "over-voting" occur right under the noses of the NEC, which conducted and supervised the elections? Furthermore, the SLPP sought an injunction to halt counting and the issuance of final results so that a proper investigation could be launched into the matter (including whether sabotage had occurred, given the fact that the alleged over-voting occurred primarily in overwhelmingly pro-SLPP precints, areas that the SLPP party or Berewa-- as you allege without any evidence-- would be foolish to engage in fraud).
The fact is, as Berewa points out, the SLPP had the votes to win the election. With a little pressure from the International Community, the SLPP found it in the national interset to forgo further legal action (as provided in the Constitution, a representative of the party could have challenged the final results announced by the NEC).
We may never know the truth, but the 2007 elections were the most controversial in our history. If anything, the election dictates that legislation must be introduced (if common sense cannot prevail)to institute a more sensible way to annouce election results in close and potentially volatile elections. How can the NEC justify that days into counting 70% of the reported elections came from known APC strongholds. Moreover, from my conversations with those on the ground at that time, both APC and SLPP supportere confirmed that even in the broadcastof results over the air, the NEC Chairperson could barely conceal her apparent lack of neutrality. APC results were announced with gusto, whereas the SLPP results (which obviously were trailing the APC numbers)were announced in a manner calculated to deflate its supporters. This is unacceptable in a democracy.
I trustb you read the NEC press release on this matter. If you did, you should be aware that the matter is not over. Hopefully, the NEC will keep its word and provide a credible report of investigation.
Until then, the jury is still out on its role in the controversial 2007 presidential election.
Subject: Re: Berewa : "We got the votes but lost the elections"
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"... whether sabotage had occurred, given the fact that the alleged over-voting occurred primarily in overwhelmingly pro-SLPP precints, areas that the SLPP party or Berewa-- as you allege without any evidence-- would be foolish to engage in fraud)."
Are you saying the SLPP leader is not foolish? You must be from out of town, mate!
I suppose it was APC saboteurs dressed as SLPP supporters who attacked their own leader, Ernest Koroma in the conmpany of Charles Margai, in order to prevent them from entering the SLPP Kailahun stronghold?
Well, why stop at the ridulous when you can go for the sublime -- next, won't you be claiming that it was a John Karimu and a John Benjamin look-alike APC saboteurs who prevented the APC leader and the PMDC leader entering "SLPP areas" in the south-east of Salone?
Does the SLPP penchant for corruption know no end?
Subject: Re: Berewa : "We got the votes but lost the elections"
From: ITK
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Correction:
There's no need for pointless sarcasm; this is a serious matter of national concern. The credibility of the NEC (and to some extent, the 2007 election)is at stake. You obviously do not recall that 2 Commissioners resigned over the handling of this matter-- on the grounds of what they deemed questionable conduct by the Commissioner.
To answer your question, this is what I am saying:
In its statement certifying the results, the NEC indicated that it had invalidated votes (something it did not relish doing) as it had determined that such action would not affect the outcome of the elections. While one can accept this at face value (as the SLPP did), given the NEC's reticence to disenfranchise voters-- as it in fact did, it ought to have provided concrete evidence to support its determination.
Additionally, the NEC indicated in its statement that it had "discovered" fraudulent result forms from polling station throughout the country, and subsequently "recovered" some of the true, original forms, the results of which were added to the presidential election tally. Something just does not go down well with this statement. There needs to be a full explanation as to how this occurred under the NEC's nose and watchful eyes.
Last, the NEC indicated that it would "continue to collaborate with the law enforcement agencies in the investigations of ALL ELECTORAL MALPRACTICES REPORTED" (emphasis mine). This is absolutetly essential, but more importantly, there must be a satisfactory rconclusion to such investigations.
BTW, (not that I condone the violence that was involved-- I don't), Koroma was warned not to go into those areas with Charles Margai-- someone the people considered Enemy Number 1 at the time. Very relaiable sources told me that the people had no problem with Koroma campaigning, provided he did not bring CM with him, as he planned to do. I don't blame them-- you just don't unilaterally pledge the support of voters to a party they historically detest. Especially when you make yourself out to be an agent of change, and succeed in attracting those voters away from their traditional party of affiliation. I trust that I do not need to further elaborate.
Subject: Re: Berewa : "I am going as a happy man....."
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GOOD RIDDANCE TO BAD RUBBISH
Subject: Re: Berewa : "I am going as a happy man....."
From: Salone Boy
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Date Posted: 14:47:14 10/17/07 ()
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Good riddance indeed; he can now focus on grand openings of water wells and shacks built by NACSA as well as officiating at "Pull Nar Doe's"
The man was just a nuisance the sooner he leaves the better things will be for the party.
Subject: The Triumph of Party Loyalty Over SL's National Interest
From: Ayoub
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From Awareness Times Newspaper in Freetown
COMMENTARIES
The Triumph of Party Loyalty Over Sierra Leone’s National Interest
By Mohamed A. Jalloh (USA)
Jan 8, 2007, 15:20
In his opinion piece entitled "The Significance of Debt Cancellation to the Socio – Economic Development of Sierra Leone," John Mannah, who now tells us he has a Ph.D. in economics, claims to be an expert on Sierra Leone’s debt crisis. However, in the process of proceeding to “examine how we got into this crisis in the first place so as to give our leaders and citizens a road map into the complicated web of international finance,” as he put it, Mr. Mannah, unfortunately, unwittingly demonstrates that he needs much more help in understanding international finance than do the people of Sierra Leone.
In particular, John Mannah proves that he lacks a sufficient familiarity with SL's economy to warrant taking his characteristically copious but simplistic opinions seriously. Even more unfortunate, Mr. Mannah continues to deploy his unacknowledged, but plainly evident, deficiency in economics in aid of his quest to promote the interest of his chosen political party above the much more important interest of his own country. It is a familiar betrayal that I was obliged to document last year, in the interest of accuracy. Please see "The Betrayal of Sierra Leone by its Pseudo-Intellectuals." http://www.sierraleonelive.com/news/templates/politicsnews.asp?articleid=347&zoneid=25
As before, let us duly proceed to examine the latest evidence of Mr. Mannah's unfortunate tendency.
Although Mr. Mannah claimed to be an expert on how SL's debt crisis came into being, sadly, he failed to accurately identify the most elementary fact about that debt, namely, where it came from, in his opinion piece cited above. Specifically, Mr. Mannah misrepresented the sources of SL's foreign debt by claiming, by implication, that SL has never borrowed money from another country. Instead, according to Mr. Mannah, SL's debt came solely from "foreign banks and multilateral organizations." Similarly, Mr. Mannah, by implication, claimed falsely that the current SLPP government of President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah and Vice President Solomon Berewa never borrowed money from any foreign source -- be it a country, a bank, or any other entity. It was upon that transparent fiction that Mr. Mannah brazenly relied to falsely claim that the debt crisis in SL was created exclusively by the APC government.
In other words, Mr. Mannah would have us believe that the IMF and the World Bank -- the SL government's historical lenders of last resort who have largely kept the current SL government from sliding into bankruptcy -- have never lent money to the current SLPP government of SL. As clueless as the APC governments have been, no one -- before Mr. Mannah -- has blamed them for the debts that have been actually incurred by the current SLPP administration during the major part of the nearly fifteen years since the APC last governed SL.
It is from such plumbless lack of knowledge that Mr. Mannah, nonetheless, brazenly set out, as he put it, to "examine how we got into this [debt] crisis in the first place so as to give our leaders and citizens a road map into the complicated web of international finance, with the aim of equipping them with the necessary tools in electing responsible, experienced and informed leaders in the parliamentary and presidential election in July 2007."
Which raises a rather obvious question: Can Mr. Mannah provide anyone with an insight into SL’s debt crisis via his "road map into the complicated web of international finance," when he has conclusively demonstrated, albeit unwittingly, that he does not even know where SL's debt came from, or, much less, how it became a crisis? The equally obvious answer is that, clearly, he can not – and, predictably, he did not in his opinion piece.
Which leads to a final question: Why, then, would Mr. Mannah hold himself out to the unsuspecting S/Leonean public as an expert in the very subject – international finance -- in which he has shown himself to be so lacking in knowledge?
The answer is found in a brief exploration of Mr. Mannah's recent background. When we first encountered Mr. Mannah last year (at which time he told us that he was a Ph.D. student in economics), he was posing as an objective commentator on the performance of the current SLPP administration led by President Kabbah. It was a posture which, upon examination, failed to stand up to scrutiny, as I showed in my critique of his performance cited above. Now, Mr. Mannah has finally abandoned his untenable pretense at objectivity and openly identified himself as a political partisan -- specifically, "Director of Communications, SLPP North America."
And that fully explains why Mr. Mannah cravenly sees in the tenure of the SLPP government of President Kabbah and Vice President Berewa, a job well done. Yet, in reality, millions of S/Leoneans who have been the hapless victims of the duo's overlapping incompetence over the past ten years of the SLPP administration have seen their lives needlessly degenerate into a morass of daily deprivations -- no light, no potable water, no jobs, and no hope.
It would no doubt come as a cruel joke to those long suffering S/Leoneans that Mr. Mannah, at the end of his "road map into the complicated web of international finance, with the aim of equipping them with the necessary tools in electing responsible, experienced and informed leaders in the parliamentary and presidential election in July 2007," callously declared that President Kabbah, the chief architect of their decade-long misery, should be rewarded "with a very reasonable retirement package to send him into retirement for the type of job he has done for Sierra Leone ..."
Yet the cruelest joke of all was evident in what the undoubtedly patriotic Mr. Mannah recommends the people of SL do for Mr. Kabbah's close partner in their searing impoverishment. S/Leoneans, urges Mr. Mannah in revealing his true motive for his multiple misrepresentations, should " ... equally promote Vice President Berewa to the position of Chief Executive Officer (CEO) for the excellent job he has done, and continues to do as vice president to president Kabbah. This is because he has the requisite training, temperament, know-how and skill, vision, credibility, integrity, accountability and probity, charisma, humility and discipline to keep us on the part of economic and fiscal reform and prosperity." Not surprisingly, Mr. Mannah carefully omitted to set forth any evidence to support his unlikely claims of Mr. Berewa’s alleged excellent performance or his possession of any of the wishful attributes Mr. Mannah blissfully ascribed to him.
All of which would prompt the long victimized people of SL to ask a familiar question of their latest SLPP town crier. As those who are familiar with my above-cited rebuttal of Mr. Mannah's unsubstantiated opinions would recall, it is the same question that I was obliged to repeatedly ask of the very same Mr. Mannah last year, namely: Does he really know the meanings of the words that he so carelessly uses to mock the daily suffering of millions of S/Leoneans under the current SLPP government headed by President Kabbah and Vice President Berewa?
© 2007 Mohamed A. Jalloh
Editor’s Note: Moh’m Jalloh, Managing Director of Bridgedal Capital Management, LLC, in suburban Washington, D.C., is a native of Sierra Leone resident in Maryland, USA, who has had his views on economics and finance published multiple times since 1994 in The Washington Post, one of the two leading national newspapers in the USA. His first article in Sierra Leone, entitled “Foreign Aid: A Curse or Blessing?” was published in the We Yone newspaper in 1979.
© Copyright 2005, Freetown, Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: The Triumph of Party Loyalty Over SL's National Interest
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Hey Ayoub, can you please post the other article? I tried to bring it up by cuttiung and pasting the link, but i got an e5rror message every time. Thanks.
Subject: Re: The Triumph of Party Loyalty Over SL's National Interest
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U r right. anyways, i checked the web and I found it on another website. here you go:
Posted by Teacher Gboyo on October 16, 2007 at 06:51:08:
Flash back to 2006: The Betrayal of Sierra Leone by its Pseudo-Intellectuals
Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - SLL News
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First publish on wednesday, August 23, 2006
By Mohamed A. Jalloh
Like most S/Leoneans, John Mannah, who tells us that he is writing a Ph.D. dissertation in macroeconomics and finance at the New School for Social Research in Manhattan, New York, would be expected to mean well for his own country and its long suffering people. However, as is true of a relatively small number of misguided S/Leoneans, Mr. Mannah, unfortunately, has chosen to place his loyalty to his chosen political party above his much more important loyalty to his country.
Nowhere in Mr. Mannah's rather lengthy opinion piece in Awareness Times entitled "Why Sierra Leoneans should be hopeful about the unequivocal vote of confidence The (sic) World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz passed on The (sic) ruling SLPP Government," published on August 14, 2006, did he display such surprising lack of patriotism more than in his shocking claim that anyone who states that the SLPP government of President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah is corrupt is guilty of "bias against" the SLPP. Here is how Mr. Mannah explicitly put it: "The other issue Mr. Jalloh brought up, which showed his bias against not only Alhaji Fofana, but the current SLPP government in Freetown is the accusation that the government is corrupt, his yardstick for this allegation, (sic) millions of dollars have been pumped into Sierra Leone and that the government has been in power for almost ten years now without any progress, as there is no electricity and water supply in the country."
Which begs the following key questions that regrettably expose Mr. Mannah as an unpatriotic apologist for the corrupt SLPP government who cynically places the interest of the SLPP above the much more deserving interest of the people of SL:
1. Since the Secretary General of the United Nations, Kofi Anan, in his report to the UN Security Council in May of this year, categorically stated that rampant and growing corruption combined with an extremely high youth unemployment rate could lead Sierra Leone to renewed political violence, did Mr. Anan thereby "show[] his bias against not only Alhaji Fofana, but the current SLPP government in Freetown?"
2. Given that the G8 member nations, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia, the United Kingdom and the United States, uniformly identified corruption under the SLPP government of President Kabbah as a reason for denying much-needed debt relief to the people of SL in 2005, did each leader of the G8 countries thereby "show[] his bias against not only Alhaji Fofana, but the current SLPP government in Freetown?"
3. When the European Union, which also attended the same G8 summit in 2005 agreed with the leaders of the G8 countries that corruption under President Kabbah's SLPP government was so rampant that SL should be denied much-needed debt relief, did the leader of the country holding the presidency of the European Council and the President of the European Commission, who represented the EU at the meeting, thereby each "show his bias against not only Alhaji Fofana, but the current SLPP government in Freetown?"
Tellingly, a deafening silence is Mr. Mannah's revealing answer to each and every one of the above key questions arising from his brazen claim that anyone who criticizes the SLPP for its internationally notorious corruption is biased. It is that self-serving conspiracy of silence against the people of SL which, regrettably, cements Mr. Mannah's membership in the cabal of unpatriotic S/Leoneans who know the truth about the SLPP's longstanding record of rampant corruption in SL, but who, for their own purely selfish political profit from the SLPP, unpatriotically seek to lie about it to its victims. Those victims are the millions of their own fellow S/Leoneans whose lives have become a nightmare of unending deprivation under SLPP rule.
It is clear, therefore, that Mr. Mannah falsely sees in me what he truly sees secretly in himself, when he writes: "So Mr. Jalloh I cannot characterize you as someone who is ignorant of the facts here, but someone who knows the facts and ignores them for ulterior motive and political or social convenience." That is only one of the so many surprising errors of fact and logic committed by Mr. Mannah as to raise very serious questions about his ability to collect data and to draw the correct conclusions from such data. It is a legitimate question, therefore, whether Mr. Mannah's surprisingly shoddy scholarship indicates a need for remediation of the quality of the instruction he received or, sadly, only of his own personal learning skills? In order to answer that question, it is necessary to helpfully identify and analyze John Mannah's myriad unfortunate errors of omission and commission.
First, Mr. Mannah unwittingly signaled his unfamiliarity with the elementary rules of logic, as well as his inability to recognize objective, fair and balanced writing, when he failed to recognize the important question of fact that had been tellingly omitted in the "fair, balanced and objective" opinion piece by his self-admitted hero, Alhaji Morikeh Fofana. That question is whether Wolfowitz has any credibility to warrant anyone taking seriously his statement that the long suffering people of SL have suddenly been magically transformed by President Kabbah's SLPP government, into satisfied, peaceful and tranquil citizens. Significantly, not only did John Mannah not ask that crucial question but he also demonstrated, unfortunately, that he had no clue as to how to answer it, even if someone had asked it, as I properly did. What is the evidence of Mannah's regrettable multiple cluelessness, one might ask? The answer is that it is of the very best kind -- Mannah's own voluntarily written words. Let us duly proceed to that evidence:
According to Mr. Mannah: "The ongoing war in Iraq and Mr. Paul Wolfowitz's role in it have no relevance to his visit to Sierra Leone as President of the World Bank and the statements he made in Sierra Leone." Mannah's opinion, which, unfortunately, he omitted to support with any evidence, raises a series of questions that prove that, sadly, he has absolutely no clue about how to make logical inferences from data, namely:
If the institution that employs Wolfowitz, the World Bank, had concluded that the SL government was so corrupt that it denied our long suffering people sorely needed debt relief in 2005, and yet, barely a year later Mr. Wolfowitz came to SL and made statements contradicting his employer's statements, is it not legitimate to ask whether Wolfowitz should be believed or not? Moreover, if millions of S/Leoneans daily suffer under an SLPP government that condemns them to a turbulent life without reliable electricity, potable water, and affordable access to medical care, and yet Wolfowitz comes to SL and tells them that theirs is a life of "peace and tranquility," as Alhaji Fofana put it, is it not legitimate to ask if Wolfowitz can be trusted to tell the truth to the public?
And if the same Wolfowitz had made statements to the public in America in 2003 about Iraq, which led to the current devastating Iraq war, and those statements were later proven to be totally false, is it not legitimate to ask whether Mr. Wolfowitz's false statements to the American public represent a pattern of telling lies to the public that he has now compulsively repeated to the people of SL?
By what logic, therefore, can those statements, and the particularly harmful war it has led to, be regarded as having no relevance to Wolfowitz's like-minded statements that he recently made in SL, as Mr. Mannah claims in palpable error? The inescapable answer is: Only by the "logic" of someone like Mr. Mannah who, sadly, has demonstrated that he has no clue about logic, in general, and how to make logical inferences from factual data, in particular. Not surprisingly, Mannah blissfully declared that "[b]ringing the Iraq war into the World Bank President's visit to Africa, especially Sierra Leone is not only fool hardy (sic) but irresponsible." Which statement raises a legitimate question that, regrettably, lays bare Mr. Mannah's unfortunate additional intellectual limitations, namely: Does Mr. Mannah actually know the meaning of the words, foolhardy and irresponsible?
Second, belying Mannah's claim to knowledge of "the facts," he alleged that "the World Bank is the main instrument that rich nations have to fight" poverty. Yet, people who actually know the facts about the World Bank's record of abject failure in African countries during the past 50 years, have come to a totally opposite conclusion. As attested to by the widely-available published writings of the world's leading contemporary economists, such as recent Nobel laureates, Larry Summers of Harvard University and Joseph Stiglitz of MIT, it is now widely recognized that it is the World Bank itself that has caused poverty in Africa through its uninformed and inappropriate economic policies in African countries.
Which raises a question that proves that, sadly, Mr. Mannah is either not the expert on "the facts" about the World Bank that he loudly proclaims himself to be, or that he is, regrettably, intellectually dishonest. That question is: Does Mr. Mannah actually want us to believe that he -- the self-styled expert on "the facts" -- is unaware of this widely-known fact? If not, why, then, would be blatantly mislead his audience by conveniently omitting to inform them of the crucial fact that both Prof. Lawrence Summers and Prof. Joseph Stiglitz -- who have both worked at the most senior levels of the World Bank -- have openly accused the World Bank of promoting poverty, malnutrition, and bad governance in African countries over the past 50 years? Or, does the self-acclaimed, vaunted expert on "the facts" regarding the World Bank, Mr. Mannah, want us to believe that he is unaware of the widespread fact that even the World Bank itself has recently been obliged to finally admit what sober economists have been saying for more than two decades – that the World Bank is the cause of much of Africa's poverty through its harmful economic policies in hapless African countries?
Significantly, there are even more relevant facts that Mr. Mannah conveniently concealed from his unsuspecting readers: For example, both internationally respected economists, Dr. Summers and Dr. Stiglitz, are not alone in identifying the World Bank as the major cause of poverty and economic chaos in developing countries: In a widely-praised 2001 book, "The Elusive Quest for Growth" (MIT Press) and an op-ed article in London's Financial Times, World Bank economist William Easterly criticizes development aid unambiguously:
"Contrary to conventional wisdom, aid to the developing world has been a big disappointment. Consider the facts and it soon becomes evident that the $1 trillion spent on aid since the 1960s, with the efforts of advisers, foreign aid givers, the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, have all failed to attain the desired results."
Yet, in a shocking display of a surprising lack of diligence, Mr. Mannah idolizes the same, demonstrably failed World Bank thus: "The bank's ten thousand professionals form the brightest concentration of development thinkers anywhere in the world, and they combine brain power with practical experience." Which incredibly uninformed statement would reasonably cause any objective reader who knows the World Bank's globally notorious record of incompetence in economic development to wonder whether Mr. Mannah actually knows the meaning of the words he so carelessly uses -- even simple words such as brightest, professional thinker, and development?
Third, despite the ranking of SL in virtually all indices of human development as the poorest country on earth and the worst place to live, John Mannah, echoing the only slightly more clueless Alhaji Fofana, brazenly declares that "[i]t was a hopeful day for Sierra Leone" merely because World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz saw the SLPP government of SL as "a performing government," as Fofana put it. Which, of course, raises the question that any diligent researcher would have posed, namely: Does Wolfowitz have any credibility?
That question is important because a diligent researcher would have known that the SL government that Wolfowitz praised is the same government which international donors -- including Wolfowitz's employer, the World Bank, the United Nations, the G8 and the European Union -- had recently unanimously condemned for its pervasive and massive corruption.
Given Mr. Mannah's claim to knowing "the facts," one would expect that he would know that particularly shameful fact about the SLPP government of President Kabbah. However, if Mr. Mannah knows the fact that the international community had recently uniformly judged President Kabbah as the leader of a rampantly corrupt government, he failed to let his readers know that. Instead, John Mannah refers to the same President Kabbah -- whom the World Bank, the U.N. and the European Union had all called the leader of a corrupt and incompetent government in SL -- as a "president [who] returned to his home country and rescued it from total destruction and has sown the seeds for its socio-economic progress." Given the universally acknowledged falsity of Mr. Mannah's self-serving claim, it is a reasonable question whether Mr. Mannah is unwittingly or deliberately confusing the meaning of (near) "total destruction" of civilized life for millions of S/Leoneans under Mr. Kabbah's rule, with the meaning of "socio-economic progress" -- an illusion that the people of SL have yet to witness under the ten-year tenure of Mr. Kabbah's corrupt and incompetent government.
It should now be painfully obvious that Mr. Mannah's errors of fact and logic are far too numerous to permit their exhaustive narration in an article of any reasonable length. What remains to be noted is that Mr. Mannah's demonstrated lack of knowledge about my personal background is not limited to his demonstrably false claim that "[l]ike President Kabbah, Mr. Jalloh's parents originated from the Republic of Guinea." Had Mr. Mannah been as diligent as he wants us to believe he is, he would have easily discovered by rather elementary research that I do not share such a background with President Kabbah. Similarly, Mr. Mannah also claims to be an expert in differentiating relevant statements from irrelevant statements. Yet, he failed to tell his readers the relevance of the origin of President Kabbah's parents to the issue of Mr. Wolfowitz's lack of credibility -- the subject of my article to which he purported to reply.
In closing, Mr. Mannah, kindly permit me to help you actually distinguish between relevant and irrelevant issues. Whether President Kabbah attended St. Edward's Secondary School, or Fourah Bay College , or any of the three graduate schools which I have had the privilege of attending here in the U.S., is completely irrelevant to my views about his sorry record of corruption and incompetence in SL. Indeed, Mr. Kabbah could be my brother, and I would still speak the same truth about his record of unconscionable malfeasance that has needlessly destroyed the livelihood, hopes and aspirations of millions of our fellow S/Leoneans, despite tens of millions of dollars of humanitarian foreign aid sent to his government for the people of SL. To you, naturally, performing my patriotic duty by duly pointing out that inconvertible fact means that I have a "bias against" the SLPP government. However, any truly objective, fair and balanced observer would tell you the exact opposite, namely: That to the extent that I am biased, I am biased only in favor of the people of SL. Sadly, it is a measure of the depth of your lack of patriotism that you proudly admit openly that you pray for the continuation of the needless suffering of millions of your fellow S/Leoneans under the corrupt and incompetent SLPP government of President Kabbah in 2007 and beyond under his equally clueless, self-admitted "faithful follower," Vice President Solomon Berewa.
That, Mr. Mannah, is exactly how unpatriotic S/Leoneans "with Ph.D.'s and without" have needlessly and unconscionably destroyed the once bright future of millions of their fellow S/Leoneans. As anyone who actually knows me would readily confirm for you -- St. Edward's Secondary School or not -- I do not share with President Kabbah, yourself, or anyone else, such blatantly unpatriotic and selfish aspirations.
Subject: Re: The Triumph of Party Loyalty Over SL's National Interest
From: Need help
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Date Posted: 17:01:39 10/17/07 ()
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Much obliged, Ayoub.
Subject: Re: The Triumph of Party Loyalty Over SL's National Interest
From: Salonegal
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Date Posted: 14:44:40 10/17/07 ()
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The SLPP had two big lies that they annouc ned everywhere they campaigned during the elections. They said they brought peace to Salone and they paid off all the debts which the APC put on Salone's head.
I am surprised they did't claim that they brought light to Freetown. LOL Good-bye Belewa, lie-man.
Subject: Re: The Triumph of Party Loyalty Over SL's National Interest
From: Youthman
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Date Posted: 16:52:40 10/17/07 ()
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tell you the truth, that's not the biggest slpp lie i have heard. Check this out: Remember when exp-president Kabbah boasted in 1996 that he would build the Lungi bridge befiore he handed over power in 2001?
Tell me if there is a lungi bridge now. To me that is the biggest lie the SLPP fed to our people. Only the other lie youb talked about, about SLPP bringing peace to our country made them not be kicked out in the 2002 elecftions.
But, as our people say, God nor dae sleep. The third time the SLPP tried to lie to our people, dem faint late. The people already had their number, thanks to Emmerson/s Borbor Bele song. 2007 became another 1967 for the SLPP lie-londos. Dem say all tem for tiffman, one day for massa hose.
Subject: Re: The Triumph of Party Loyalty Over SL's National Interest
From: Alfred Thomas
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Date Posted: 17:12:41 10/17/07 ()
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That's not the biggest lie the SLPP told. remember after Berewa and his SLPP tried to stop the NEC announcing the election results? Well, after they failed, guess what big lie they started spreading? That they had won the election but they were "rogued."!! Boy, that is so rich!
It's like a thief going to the police station to report that his (stolen)mproperty had been stolen by somneone else!! Straight into a jail cell is where the fool tiffman will be thrown. Not that Berewa has escaped jail. He might still yet end up there, reunited with hios kleptomaniac cabinet and the biggest crook of the SLPP, Prezo Kabbah.
Subject: Re: The Triumph of Party Loyalty Over SL's National Interest
From: Abdul Koroma
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Date Posted: 12:18:01 10/17/07 ()
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"Yet the cruelest joke of all was evident in what the undoubtedly patriotic Mr. Mannah recommends the people of SL do for Mr. Kabbah's close partner in their searing impoverishment. S/Leoneans, urges Mr. Mannah in revealing his true motive for his multiple misrepresentations, should " ... equally promote Vice President Berewa to the position of Chief Executive Officer (CEO) for the excellent job he has done, and continues to do as vice president to president Kabbah. This is because he has the requisite training, temperament, know-how and skill, vision, credibility, integrity, accountability and probity, charisma, humility and discipline to keep us on the part of economic and fiscal reform and prosperity."
Ayoub, I read the article you posted last year. Speaking of jokes, I fell on the ground laffing at this wickedly funny line Mr. Jalloh wrote:
"As those who are familiar with my above-cited rebuttal of Mr. Mannah's unsubstantiated opinions would recall, it is the same question that I was obliged to repeatedly ask of the very same Mr. Mannah last year, namely: Does he really know the meanings of the words that he so carelessly uses to mock the daily suffering of millions of S/Leoneans under the current SLPP government headed by President Kabbah and Vice President Berewa?"
As the rejection of the SLPP's Berewa in the presidential election proves, it turns out that the joke was on the SLPP, not on the their victims, the Salone people.
Subject: Re: The Triumph of Party Loyalty Over SL's National Interest
From: Budu Savage
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Date Posted: 17:16:39 10/17/07 ()
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I don't believe the SLPP ever dreamed that they would not be able to rigg the elections. Look at all ther bootlickers that had left America and England to go to Sierra leone thinking that they were going to get jobs in the Berewa SLPP government. like Pops Shek used to say, dem faint late.
Subject: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: Broko Kunu Sef Get Owner
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Date Posted: 06:04:56 10/17/07 ()
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As much as I hate to lend more online-space to discussions about Sylvia Blyden, I cant help but remark on her transparent attempts to set the stage for an ideological coup within the SLPP. Mark my words this woman dares to see herself as a possible future SLPP candidate. She is now busy systematically discrediting elements within the SLPP in a 'I told you so' and 'if only you had listened to me' posture that sets the stage for increased ideological influence in political oposition to the new APC government. (Click the link and see her article below)
Subject: Re: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: Mensa
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Date Posted: 02:56:53 10/18/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
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So what is wrong with that! If she could convince the SLPP party members, then she must have some basic qualities of a good politician. Perhap, she's exactly what the SLPP needs right now to revive the sunken spirit of the party! Can't you afford to be a little objective!
Subject: Re: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: Scornee Vexation
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Date Posted: 13:20:01 10/17/07 ()
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Bra Enviable, are you also carrying a secret torch?
What is the difference between Blyden's article and Morie Mousaffa's own? I think Blyden's own is even better.
If you get snubbed, you take it out like this?
Join the queue...
Subject: Re: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: Babybob
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Date Posted: 13:59:29 10/17/07 ()
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Scornee Vexation, stop assuming. How do you know that was Bra Enviable? This is a public forum where anyone with a computer can write. Stop assuming and making comments without facts.
Subject: DOES PRESIDENT KOROMA’S CABINET REFLECT THE “NATIONAL UNITY
From: One Salone News
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Date Posted: 13:17:06 10/17/07 ()
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DOES PRESIDENT KOROMA’S CABINET REFLECT THE “NATIONAL UNITY” GOVERNMENT
HE WAS ESPOUSING, OR WAS IT JUST “ALL TALK”?
By Morie Mussaffa
My philosophy in dealing with any human being is that I will give you the benefit of trust until you give me a reason for distrusting you. And when that
happens, I will be the toughest to ever trust you again. When a person speaks, I take you for your word, unless you are made to speak under duress.
I still do believe that it’s too early to judge President Koroma and his objective for the nation. However, they say “charity begins at home”. And as I
have said, I don’t believe President Koroma was under duress when he declared that he intends to have a government of “national unity.”
I have been optimistic and trusted President Koroma until he named his cabinet. I am one of those who have been admonishing caution and asking
that President Koroma and the “new” APC be given the chance to show the country what the so-called “New APC” meant, and what President Koroma’
s “national unity” would reflect. Well, now that I have seen the new cabinet, my confidence has eroded, somewhat.
I am not one of those to complain about his choices. Yet, there is a blatant regional (if not tribal) bias represented in this APC cabinet already. I
believe that this is in contradiction to what President Koroma was espousing in terms of a government of "national unity". That does not mean that I
was not expecting him to choose members by political party since this is exclusively an APC government. On the other hand, we all know that there
are two major obstacles that have always been militating against what we all consider to be efforts for achieving “national unity”. They are:
1. Tribalism: Perhaps the worst of the impediments against any form of national unity. We all know how evil tribalism is and how much it reflects
inequitable access or distribution of the national resources can be to the various tribes. When Charles Margai and PMDC chose to support the APC in
the run-off elections, the whole world congratulated Charles and PMDC’s action as a positive step toward the dissolution of our traditional national
politics based on tribal lines.
2. Regionalism: This is definitely the second most destructive factor militating against national political unity, simply because our national political
system is virtually distributed on a regional basis. The South and East versus the North and West with a little give and take here and there. Again,
when Charles Margai and the PMDC opted to support the APC, there was exhilaration around the world about the possible blurring of that political
divide on regional basis by such action.
Of course, I am not oblivious to the fact that this is NOT a Coalition government. In fact, that's why I will not expect President Koroma's cabinet to have
necessarily reflected a political party representation. But I believe that any government that aspires to the eradication of the hurdles against national
unity must primarily address the tribal and regional factors head on.
I am proud as a PMDC member and very proud of the steps undertaken by our leader and the party to help in taking steps toward alleviating that
national problem. The action was a two-pronged attack against both factors. In doing so, PMDC stepped beyond political party, tribal and regional
obstacles to try to help forge a government of “national unity”. Everyone knew it was a hard decision to part with the traditional political alignments,
whether on a party, tribal or regional basis, yet we bit the bullet and did it.
President Koroma and the APC don’t seem to subscribe to the implementation of their own rhetoric. He talked about a government of “national unity”,
yet his Cabinet is largely made of people from the Northern Province. Is this anyway to start to bring national unity? Does President Koroma actually
believe that saying one thing and doing another will restore integrity to his government, knowing the past history of the APC and their notorious
affiliations to subgroups like Ekutay?
The only regional representations in this cabinet outside of the Northern Province were those provided largely by PMDC. This again reflects the
“national unity” objective of Charles Margai and the PMDC. The APC made little or no effort to reflect “national unity” in their own cabinet choices as
has been propagandized by President Koroma. Is this going to be another of the Old APC government in the New APC clothing? If so, I can see some
hard times ahead for the country again because no matter what happens, no Sierra Leonean will ever again contribute to or tolerate the actions of
the Old APC in that country.
Even if President Koroma’s intention is to make the Cabinet exclusively APC with the token PMDC representation, is he then making us believe that
there were no staunch or qualified APC from the Southern and Eastern Provinces who could have sufficed the regional balance in order to fulfill his
“national unity government” requirement? I don’t think so. Knowing the number of years the APC was in power especially as a One Party State, there
must be a whole lot of former or current APC who hailed from the Southern and Eastern Provinces.
I once again implore President Koroma and the APC to try and effect political change in the country rather than trying to continue the same old
divisive politics that lends to the lack of achievement of national unity that the country so direly need. There will be a greater probability for the APC to
easily win a second term if they implement what the country so direly need, for which the SLPP was kicked out of power. These include elimination of
corruption, eradication of the traditional political alignments, implementation of progressive and developmental programs in the country.
Subject: Re: DOES PRESIDENT KOROMA’S CABINET REFLECT THE “NATIONAL UNITY
From: truth teller
To: All
Date Posted: 18:38:24 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: truthteller@yahoo.com
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We all know Morie you are an oportunist. you were hoping to get seats thinking this is your time now. if you would have got ministerial posts as you wishes we would not have seen this post. dont give me that I am doing fine in AMerica. Bullshit I know you well. The little money you have you got through insurance fraud so you cannot full me. when you dont get positions you were promised you cry tribalism subtely. I say APC dont give none of you seats to these oportunists. They will bring your party down and run back to the states. people voted for Kabba thinking he was from the UN he would be clean. coruption exists in the first world too. so until sierra Leoneans stop thinking they answers rests in washed up politicians and wanna bees in AMerica that barely made it through comunity college the future is dim. Mussafa u are a wolf in sheep clothing.
Subject: Re: DOES PRESIDENT KOROMA’S CABINET REFLECT THE “NATIONAL UNITY
From: U Must be Joking
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Date Posted: 15:54:31 10/17/07 ()
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"...eradication of the traditional political alignments..."
Toegondoe, you must be joking. You guys just have this belief that the spots on the leopard will be obliterated through evolution. It has not happened yet, and it may never happen.
Do you really believe that the APC gives a hoot about you folks in the PMDC? They just used your gullibility to ascend to power. Now that they have it, you think you can change their evil ways? Never!!
The sooner they get entrenched into the power you've given to them than they would kick out the PMDC representation in their midst.
Unu nor feel ahm yaite! Unu wait for six months, and you'd believe the contents of this post.
One cannot be too trusting of northerners, can one?
And we do not want you guys back in the ranks of the SLPP. Fry in your own political fat, you bumbling PMDCians!!!
Subject: Re: DOES PRESIDENT KOROMA’S CABINET REFLECT THE “NATIONAL UNITY
From: Fan of Sylvia
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Date Posted: 13:55:37 10/17/07 ()
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Morie's article says exactly what is being whispered in many conversations. I don't know why people like to pick on Sylvia Blyden. Her article is brilliant and must be commended.
Leave these haters of the truth to expose themselves. God is using them to promote Sylvia Blyden to a position of leadership.
If that is her desire, so be it!!!!!!
Subject: Re: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: SHABBA
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Date Posted: 11:50:29 10/17/07 ()
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Guys – until you realize that the wind that continues to fan the flame that makes Sylvia Blyden more popular by the minute is Cocorioko and us (i.e. most forum contributors), she is going to become more popular, outrageous and even allow her to believe that she is a formidable force within the Sierra Leone political landscape.
Look! it’s all about ratings – the more you get irate about her or what she says in her paper, the more popular the Sylvia Blyden personality becomes – ask ANN COULTER and RUSH LIMBAUGH that’s how it works. There is nothing like bad publicity - publicity whether good or bad, is always good for business.
Suggestion: Leave Sylvia to continue in the path she has chosen, and pay less attention to her outrageous comments and “world revolves around me” attitude. Write less about her in your front page articles and do not give life to her propaganda by sharing it beyond her domain (i.e. Awarenesstimes).
Subject: Re: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 13:21:03 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
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Shabba wrote: "she is going to become more popular"
Mensa disagrees beacause she's already more popular that you thought.
Shabba Wrote: "and even allow her to believe that she is a formidable force within the Sierra Leone political landscape."
Mensa disagrees: She's already a formidable force within the Sierra Leone political landscape. The babe had got an impeccable political background.
The lady is on top of her game. She can screw the hell out of the smartest folks in this forum. Admit it! The babe is just intriguing. And the more you conspire against her, the more you transform her to a crowd puller.
Subject: Re: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: Na True
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Date Posted: 13:23:18 10/17/07 ()
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The strongest and most influential politician from the Western Area right now is Sylvia Blyden. Her influence is amazing both in Freetown and nationwide.
Subject: Re: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: EBOSIO
To: All
Date Posted: 11:05:26 10/17/07 ()
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I have just read the article you linked on your piece, the one on Awareness Times written by Blyden. Man what a divider that is. I have never seen it fit to get involved in the Blyden debate, but with this article, I draw the line. This is not about Blyden, it is about Sierra Leone. I don't know what this woman's intentions are, but whatever they are, the path she has chosen to arrive at her destination is one that may inevitably be destructive to Sierra Leone & Sierra Leoneans. Her emphasis on tribalism & regionalism is plainly scary. In a society where we should be educating our kits & kins with perspectives that should be strengthening our way of thinking, perspectives that should be consolidating our new sense of being, we have an individual in a very visible area of our societal makeup who is using her position to make ill rather than to make good. This woman should be taken to task legally. She seems bent on creating a line of significant divide between the the south and the rest of the country. In a society that has a large number of illiterates and semi-literates, this woman is going to be cruelly effective. Most especially with the semi-literates. It is heartrending to observe that a person who is suppose to be so highly educated, can use her education so effectively at destruction. Her way of thinking makes me wonder what type of education she has. She might have gone through the best unversities in the world, made the best grades, but she is definitely not a candidate for commonsense and good high ranking intelligence. That article on her rotten newspaper should hurt all well-thinking Sierra Leonean as it has hurt me, the most profound way. It's about time this horrible thinking individual is contained.
Subject: Re: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 13:12:14 10/17/07 ()
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We need to start giving our so-called illiterates a lot more credit. I am less concerned about the reaction of illiterates than I am about the influence of those that claim to speak on their behalf.
Subject: Re: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: Aruna Sowa
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Date Posted: 13:08:49 10/17/07 ()
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please email me on arunasowa009@yahoo.co.uk as i have a very serious thing to discuss with you about this Sylvia Blyden
Subject: Re: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: Aruna Sowa
To: All
Date Posted: 13:07:44 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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please email me on arunasowa009 as i have a very serious thing to discuss with you
Subject: Re: SHE REMAINS REASURINGLY TRANSPARENT.
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:10:38 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator6071.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.181.216
Message:
How bah nar you or nar you wan be de owner?
Subject: KOMBA KAMBO
From: Concerned
To: All
Date Posted: 03:59:05 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: gonos@yahoo.com
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What is happening to this guy. I understand he is still in prison fighting deportation. Will a petition for his release be appropriate?
Subject: Re: KOMBA KAMBO
From: John Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 16:37:33 10/17/07 ()
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Why should Komba Kambo bear the brunt of the NPRC mess? Nincompoops like Idriss Kamara is currently residing in Virgina should be held accountable.
Subject: Re: KOMBA KAMBO
From: Lawrence Billgreyhood.
To: All
Date Posted: 16:02:45 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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John Cole, what’s your problem with Idriss Kamara; why singled him out? If you have a problem, take it up with him so that he can “Kick you stupid Ass,” Calling people you don’t know “Nincompoops” The guy is in the U.S legally and doing his business. He was brought here legally by the United Nations. So you think; if there was any problem with Idriss and the others the U. S. government shouldn’t have taken action? Some of you guys are just full of hate.
Subject: Re: KOMBA KAMBO
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 15:02:41 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 62.189.241.185
Message:
Personally I have no sympathy for any of these guys. The word KARMA springs to mind "what goes around comes around"
Na Governor Clarkson in Sweh de catch dem one by one
"Should any person have a wicked thought in his heart or do anything to disturb the peace and comfort of our Colony, let him be rooted out O God, from off the face of the earth; but have mercy upon him hereafter"
(extract from Gov. Clarksons prayer)
A lesson to all politicians you can't screw Sa. leone and get away it no matter where you run off to.
Subject: Re: KOMBA KAMBO
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 13:10:42 10/17/07 ()
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"The evil that men do live after them; the good is oft interred with their bones."
Subject: Re: KOMBA KAMBO
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 11:49:05 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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Very touching and emotional piece on Komba Kambo. However, he was part of the cabal to execute Bambay Kamara and 28 others for greed and power. The world is not fair, our fingers are not equal...he is paying the price for his ill deeds. I was in Freetown in 1992, it was a somber day...the ghosts of Salami, Bambay and others will continue to chase anyone involved in their executions.
Subject: Re: KOMBA KAMBO
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 09:45:43 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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I think at this stage in the mess, instead of enduring the continued emotional and financial stress, I think Kambo will be better off by taking the option of deportation. As “a fuel analyst with an MBA …” he could contribute immensely to the development of Sierra Leone or any other country in Africa or elsewhere. Why continue in a fight the inevitable when you already know the end result. LOOK - it is evident that the US has seen it fit to determine that Kambo is no longer welcome in their “GREAT DEMOCRACY” – equal opportunity under the law ;-)- right!
Let’s face it – den go still rub oil pan am – whether na immigration problem den gi am or not, den go continue for fen sometime – so leh eh go back saful.
Na den all – norto all man America fit. Some of we need for torm back, and go do sometime beteh for we country. Is there a problem preventing Kambo from going back?
Subject: Re: KOMBA KAMBO
From: Ya duniya
To: All
Date Posted: 11:11:34 10/17/07 ()
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Is there a problem preventing Kambo from going back?
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Yep Salami Coker and 28 others on December 29th 1992. The ghosts of the innocent dead are still fighting their battles.
Subject: Re: KOMBA KAMBO
From: Candida
To: All
Date Posted: 11:20:21 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: Canok@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-65-2-127.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.65.2.127
Message:
I dont think there is a problem at all. Tom Nyuma, Maada Bio, Komba Mondeh etc etc are all in Sierra Leone without any problems. Where is his other friends and colleagues - Charley Bio, Karefa and Glover? Why dont they have the same problems as he does? Do they have visas to stay abroad and why did Komba Kambo not settle his visa before bringing his family into the states?
Subject: Re: KOMBA KAMBO
From: TRC
To: All
Date Posted: 11:18:07 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
Fully agreed, why single him out???There were others as well.
Subject: Re: KOMBA KAMBO
From: Memba
To: All
Date Posted: 12:20:26 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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You forget that Tom Nyuma was DEPORTED from the USA?
Subject: Re: KOMBA KAMBO
From: Deported
To: All
Date Posted: 13:58:45 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: Gonos@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-65-2-127.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.65.2.127
Message:
Yes he was deported. Are you happy to see your brother languish in jail? I think someone should talk some sense into Kambo's head and advice him to go home.
Where is Charley Bio, Karefa Kargbo and Idriss? They are in America but not been arrested. I honestly don't get it
Subject: FODAY MANSARAY
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 02:09:33 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: Brabanxx@aol.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-139-126.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.139.126
Message:
Foday Mansaray-in our culture it is easy to call someone we don't know "YOU"-is Foday Mansaray. Not only have I known this gentleman for over 20 years, I worked closely with him during the campaign leading to the eventual rising of the red sun once more in the four corners of mother Sierra Leone. Foday Mansaray's involvement in the 2007 elections was propelled by his trust in the cause of the new APC under the leadership of HE EBK and his resolve to create employment by luring businesses and investors to Sierra Leone. An APC victory was the ony thing he wanted after the elections. He thinks that it is only an APC led government that will create the atmosphere and transparency for the fruition of his plans for the country he loves so much.
As we speak on this forum, the nature and extent of his businesses and holdings in the US will not permit him to take up any appointment in Freetown. Presently Foday and I are talking to representatives from the energy sector about the possibilities of cheaper and alternative energy sources for our country. We are also looking at providing DSL service for internent use. We are currently talking to the owner of a leading restaurant in Freetown to expand that business to all 12 districts. After the opening of his community bank in New Jersey he plans to do same in Freetown.
In "my estimation" I think the late Sam Bangura was a formidable bank governor. However, he was not a PhD. I think when the time comes for Mr. Mansaray to serve his country in any appointed capacity he will do so to the best of his abilty. I know for sure that he his a perfectionist. Till then for those of you who don't know FODAY MANSARAY, I will enjoin my Mayor in Freetown when he said that in another forum-in which I belong-time and circumstances will restore the genuine.
ORSAII, ORWAII
God Bless Sierra Leone
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: Dada Man
To: All
Date Posted: 23:19:04 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-233-244-59.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.233.244.59
Message:
What doest it take to become a real estate agent and start selling and buying houses for people and or self?
How many people are there that are realtors without a degree? I think many! Becoming a realtor is not a BIG DEAL. All you need to do is to attend the certificate program and take the test to become a realtor. I don’t think that the program is even up to a year long. Realtors are not necessarily honest people. They most times deceived and dupe customers into bad loan deals just for them to get their commissions. So being someone buying and selling house is not enough to be appointed as a bank governor or deputy bank governor. There must be something more than that. The decisions that bank governors make, affect the economic life of a country and its inhabitants. Most times people appointed for such posts have written books in economics, have been professors, have a very strong opinion and sense of direction as to where they will lead the institution if given the chance and have been CEOs of reputable financial institutions. Let us get real and stop the blind support for our friends and or relatives!!! Foday Mansaray may be needed to work at the central bank to inject some of real estate experience into our financial/real estate system, but definitely NOT AS BANK GOVERNOR!!!
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 14:39:12 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
I think from what I've heard about Foday he is doing well buying and selling homes. That is not the same as filling the shoes of a Deputy Bank Governor if the role is not a bench warming political appointment. If it is a result driven financial institution, here is my challenge for my man.
Foday, prove your critics wrong.
" What is the microeconomic reason for US housing market down turn and what other options are available to freeze the down stream, besides the federal interest rate intervention?"
Given the current rate of Sierra Leone's economic growth in relation to projected population growth, calculate the ESTIMATED GDP in the next 5 years. By what percent can the GDP grow by the next fiscal year to guarantee zero deficit.?
SHOW NUMBERS MAKE ME PROUD.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: Question time
To: All
Date Posted: 11:28:27 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
Are we using this patriotic forum to lobby for ourselves and our friends to get jobs????
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY FOR DEPUTY BANK GOVERNOR.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 08:50:02 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
Message:
I do not know Foday Mansaray very well but I know that he is very generous to the Muslim community in New Jersey. I remember when the Muslim Jamat was looking for a place to worship, he gave up his building to the jamat. I hope and pray that Allah will bless him and I encourage other Muslims to emulate his good examples.
The only concern I have with him holding the position of deputy governor of our central bank, is that he has the tendency to usurp positions through the back door, for example, while Mr. Alex Mansaray(the chairman/CEO editorial board of Cocorioko)was in Freetown campaigning for the APC. Foday was asked to act in that office, but Foday claimed to be the substantive holder without the approval of the board.
Foady Mansaray did the same thing to my boyhood friend, Ahmed Conteh. While Mr. Conteh(the elected national public relations officer of the APC-N/America) was busy working for the party in Freetown. Foday claimed his position without the approval his the entire membership that elected Mr.Ahmed Conteh. While is Freetown, Mr. Conteh was distributing his complimentary cards( which states that he is the PRO,APC-N/America).
It makes no sense for the party to have two Public Relations Officers when its constitution only calls for one.
If Foday Mansaray is appointed deputy governor, I hope he will not wrongfully claim that he is the bank governor.
I know that in the APC, everything is up side-down but we the well meaning people of Sierra Leone are fed up of seeing confession in public offices.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY FOR DEPUTY BANK GOVERNOR.
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 09:40:34 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.82.23.33
Message:
Saidu,
You really don't know this young man .... I will rather you refraim from saying the wrong things about him, until you do your research.
If the roles were reversed, trust me, that young man will never tint your character, instead he will make sure you are guided into the right path.
Foday is a hardworking young man who is full of determination, perseverance and most of all ... He is Loyal, Versatile, Tolerant and Respectful to all those he comes across.
Saidu ... Your Character translates into your work ethics ..... This man's character will transform our rotten economy (If called upon)...
Foday will only wish the best for you, how I wish you can find it in your soul to wish for him, what you wish for yourself ...
That's Foday in 3 seconds ....
I can go on and on and on .... He was my senior in school, and we have remained BEST FRIENDS FOREVER
He promised my mother long time ago to make sure he keeps an eye on me .... He has never dissppointed my mother.
You go BFF ... I know will be fine. (Either/Or)
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY FOR DEPUTY BANK GOVERNOR.
From: Sorie Matadie
To: All
Date Posted: 13:46:02 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Lady J you give credibility to this Horses rear when you rspond to his posts. Every one who knows Foday, will judge him for who he is not what this piece of dirt says about him. He did the same thing to Alieu Iscandari and his family even though the young brother was responsible for his ungrateful self to be in the US. Those of us who know Alieu Iscandari and his family have only judged them for the people who we know they are and not for what this dirt bag says they are.
Just Ignore his posts and he will go away. hde is an attention seeker.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY FOR DEPUTY BANK GOVERNOR.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 18:51:01 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
Message:
Sorie, I stated that I do not know Foday very well but the little I know about is in my post.
For the last time, let me pump these facts into your sick brains:
(1) Nobody in the Abdul Iscandari family had anything to do with my coming to the USA. My sister(in New York) brought me to the USA and I will always be very grateful to her. If you send me your contact I will make sure that you and I call her on the phone, so that you can confirm that Alieu Iscandari is nothing but an useless liar.
(2) I ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA do not owe the Iscandari family anything. If they were not satanic and ungrateful people they will always be thankful to me for the good things I did for them while they were suffering in Freetown. Again, I encourage you to send me your contact, I will put you on the phone with Alieu's mom so that you will confirm that I do not owe them anything.
I pray for the day I will see Alieu Iscandari and his mom or dad in public. That will be a day Alieu will never forget in his life because both for us will prove that all the rubbish he had posted about me on this forum were false and baseless. Trust me , after that day Alieu will never disrespect any other person in this world.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY FOR DEPUTY BANK GOVERNOR.
From: Sorie Matadie
To: All
Date Posted: 08:10:59 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Saidu I still say that you are a horses rear. I look forward to the day when you will attack Iscandari or his mother in public. Your downfall is about to come and no one can save you now. You are on a slippery slope and you have picked up negative momentum and you are about to do the last act in self destruction.
Put me on the phone with alieus mom? Do you have their phone number? Would they accept a call from you? When you pick on Alieu Iscandari you have picked on someone that a lot of people like and atacking him or threatening to attack him or his parents in public would be the last thing that you do before you end up in jail.
you nar bor bor wae nor geh blessing. De people dem way hep you for cam nar america narf dem fos you bring halaki pan. You feba you raray mama en you tif man papa bad bad wan. Nar so ar say. Now go cuss dem iscandari dem back fro watin ar say. ar say you nar REBEL wit capital letter. Den you nar tiff man nar dat mek from way you cam nar america you dae pan mandalagee biz en dae tiff you compin dem. damn ass
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY FOR DEPUTY BANK GOVERNOR.
From: fenney
To: All
Date Posted: 22:13:25 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-66-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.26.251
Message:
SAIDU LRF LUK U WAY SAY YOU NOR OWE NOBODY. GOD GO HAMMER YOU. SAIDU NOR LEK PAECE. WAIT SLPP SEF GO DREB AM ,DE BOY GET SWEAR EN ALAKI. SAIDU WAY DE MUF EN NOR PAY RENT. ARE NOR BLAME AM NA DE ISCANARI DEM ARE BLAME
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY FOR DEPUTY BANK GOVERNOR.
From: KABS KANU TO ALPHA SAIDU
To: All
Date Posted: 09:01:36 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
ALPHA SAIDU,
Foday did not usurp anybody's position at COCORIOKO . Every appointment made was done legally and properly.
What you have said on this matter is therefore patently wrong, my dear friend.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY FOR DEPUTY BANK GOVERNOR.
From: REV
To: All
Date Posted: 09:07:17 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Since you two are BUDDIES, did he tell you about the GHANIAN that he duped?
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: Pa. Sandie
To: All
Date Posted: 08:31:25 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
Poor Sierra Leone, wonders will never end. Look at people praising someone who is a crook. I am in sympathy with poor Sierra Leone. EBK, please think twice. The expectations of the people are very high. To Foday supporters, can you tell the people of Sierra Leone what Foday have done for us. A crook who always dupe people. Look at that poor Ghanaian. The people of Sierra Leone are nolonger fools and they can't sit by and allow this to happen-Foday to be the Deputy Bank governor, NO WAY, my friend.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: ELITA WILSON
To: All
Date Posted: 16:23:36 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h2098.shi.com at 12.20.202.98
Message:
A CROOK IN THE USA WOULD HAVE BEEN IN JAIL BY NOW INSTEAD OF TRYING TO BETTER OUR COUNTY, SIRRA LEONE.
I HAVE KNOWN THIS MAN AND WORKED CLOSELY WITH HIM.
I WORKED WITH HIM AT THE FLAG STAR BANK, ESTERN AMERICAN BANK AND EVEN BEFORE HE STATED REAL ESTATE.
MR. FODAY MANSARAY HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS JOB.
MORE THAN 20 YEARS EXPERIENCE IS MORE THAN A PHD
DEGREE. HE HAS PROVED HIMSELF HERE IN THE USA, AND I AM PRETTY SURE HE WILL PROVE HIMSELF AGAIN IN SIRRA LEONE.
IF PRESIDENT KOROMA THINKS THE MAN IS SUITABLE FOR THE JOB, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO DISPUTE THAT?
HATER! SHUT UP! GIVE THE MAN A CHANCE.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: Pa.Sandie
To: All
Date Posted: 18:10:51 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
Are you sure you know this fellow? I dont think so. God forbid, he will never be our deputy bank governor.EBK is not a fool to appoint people like Foday. What has he done towards the socio-economic development of our country? Please ask Foday about the Parisco issue. Let him clear the air.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: peace
To: All
Date Posted: 10:34:01 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
Message:
I have your full name,address and phone number. If this information you are spreading is false and I know it is false. You will be sued for the largest law suit you ever seen. Enough of this. If you have beef with Foday, take it up with him instead of hiding. Thanks to technology, guys like you will expire soon when foday run into you.
BE PREPARED
You pussy .
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: WOW!
To: All
Date Posted: 14:34:51 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
What a crazy response and threat to a forumite's safety.
Can we just stick to issues and not discuss people in here. Who really cares about people. To Foday's supporters, you should know that we have all kinds of people in this forum. We even have Sadam Insane here. So when you bring up the name of a person here vis-a-vis blowing their horns, you should expect all kinds of reactions, including "mammy curse".
Thats how low people can get here! Like the Jamaican would say "you don know".
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: Pa. Sandie
To: All
Date Posted: 16:16:51 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
Why are Sierra Leoneans not growing? The appointment of a deputy bank governor is not a child's play, that is why I will encourage EBK to make the right choice. Look at Foday's supporters, talking trash instead of saying the truth. Ask Foday about what he did to Parisco in Philly regarding purchasing a house. Let us stop this habit of saying the truth. I have nothing against Foday, but honestly the position of deputy bank governor or what have you is not for him. He can still contribute to the development of Sierra Leone in other areas. Remember again that Sierra Leoneans are nolonger fools. I hope EBK will allow a free and vibrant press to expose crooks like Foday and others. I rest my case for now.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: Idriss
To: All
Date Posted: 08:16:37 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 66.23.15.6
Message:
FODAY MANSARAY IS A MAN OF HONOR,INTEGRITY AND RESPECT.I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT AND ADMIRATION FOR HIM FOR THE SELFLESS ROLE HE PLAYED FOR APC DURING THE ELECTION.GOOD JOB FODAY.CONTINUE THE GOOD JOB.GOD BLESS YOU
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: My Take
To: All
Date Posted: 09:18:33 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: f298781.ga.unc.edu at 152.4.31.217
Message:
You are putting the cart before the horse. The news about Foday is just rumors and it is being spread by a newspaper whose rumors it propagated during the elctions were discovered to be unfounded.
Secondly, choosing the next bank governor and his deputy is one of the most assiduous task a president must undertake. It is not a seemingly done deal for any individual to just assume he/she has been nominated by the president. After all, these individuals will be responsible in directing the nation's economy: how to redirect the economy in order to control inflation; what are the prevailing or proposed interest rates that will stimulate productivity and economy growth?; what are the fiscal responsibilities of the govt., especially the finance ministry. Indeed, the job involves real economists with wealth of experiences in banking and global economics. In such, gentlemen, the jobs goes beyond just mortgage banking as a litmus test; it goes beyond an individual's owning of a business; it goes beyond just being a party member; it goes beyond any hefty lobying for the job.
In such, my friend, the president has to be more careful to exclude sentiments and loyalty in choosing the individuals for the jobs. The resumes of these individuals should be thoroughly and carefully vetted in order to avoid future embarrassment. The moral characters of the individuals selected must also be carefully examined.
As I said, the newspaper that promulgated the news is not a credible paper. If I were you, I would discard the news as mere rumors.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: Haba?
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:56 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 196.44.99.114
Message:
That newspaper is the most credible newspaper in Sierra Leone right now. Who are you to criticise it?
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 08:53:11 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
I have been a close associate of Foday Mansaray since 1990 .Nobody knows you best than your close associates and those with whom you engage in financial transactions. For somebody to describe this humble, God-fearing gentleman as a crook just shows how Sierra Leoneans have sunk in depravity , even in their thinking.
Foday cannot be a crook because nar man wey geh shame bad and he cares about his integrity and reputation. He was a mortgage banker in the USA since I knew him 17 years ago and mention any case he has had before ? You know that America is not like Africa.Here , the least crime is prosecuted without fear or favor.And the American justice system is very hard on Pastors, church leaders, heads of financial institutions like banks, insurance and mortgage companies( Who have the ability to dupe people on a mass scale. ) If Foday is a crook, by now he would have had a case to identify him with.
I am Foday's closest friend presently .We talk over 10 times on the phone daily. I endorse him for any responsible position in Sierra Leone, if he is interested.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY
From: Wow!
To: All
Date Posted: 14:41:35 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Kabs,
I disagree, the American system is easy on Clergymen, Bankers and the rest that you mentioned. Take a look at the sexual molestation done by catholic priests to church boys and what happens to them, NADA. Take a look at Worldcom, and Harliburton, they dupe the poor and go free. Now take a look at Mike Vick, who only killed dogs, he is probably going to jail for life.
My advice, stop using this forum to promote Foday. He may be a great guy but can not write so can not be a Bank Governor, Period!
Subject: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: DIGBA-SOWAY
To: All
Date Posted: 02:01:08 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
Seems you people have nothing better to do or think of.For you to succeed in mobilizing opinions against a thousand-year old practise requires the determination of the himalayan heights and the support of the entire Africa and the middle east! As far as I can see you three don't have what it takes to meet those two requirements.
Erica and Lady J it is a pity you have not undergone FGM and that makes you ignorant of the benefits true initiates derive from the process.
Mbalu you claim you are an initiate but your anti-FGM stance has given rise to serious doubts over the authenticity of your claim.
According to a recent survey,it was found out that 95% of women involved in 'QUICKIES'are non-FGMs while only 5% FGMs are involved and that too for making the fast buck.The survey also revealed most non-FGMs can be easily laid in places like toilets,offices,street-corners,dark alleys and in cars because they can be easily turned on and lack self-control in such situations.Most cheating married women, the survey revealed too are non-FGMs because they find the easy way out whenever they get the feeling and find it difficult to wait for their husbands if they are not around.
Another survey revealed non-FGMs reach orgasm more easier and faster.Now what is the demerit of this? It is indeed true that after reaching orgasm the woman is satisfied and does not want to have anything to do with a man for sometime and if the man has not reached his he will not be satisfied.What if a man is sexually 'long-natured'? The survey also showed FGMs have a record long time to reach a climax and can well adapt to both sexually long-natured and short-natured partners.
So Erica, lady J and Mbalu see where you have landed yourselves? My advice for you girls is to quickly get rid of that protuberant bean-like structure and have some self-control and be at sexual peace with yourselves.You are more susceptible to the derogatory quickie practice and that makes you a free for all.
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:48:23 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Digba-Soway,
You must be a dummy to call me a "Gborrkabana". I went to Bondo, so who do you call Gborrka. Secondly, you are really dumb because the ficticious survey you cited is in agreement with most of what I said in this forum except for a few pieces that I believe you personally "dumbed-down" for your low comprehension ability.
My question to you is what is your take on the FGM issue. If you lack ideas to engage in the debate, then retreat into your peep-hole.
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: FGM
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:16 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.85.63.254
Message:
Lady J has.
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 09:43:46 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
The more I think about your words and the fact that women may actually believe this about themselves, the more I am saddened. Dog owners have their dogs fixed or clipped to prevent them from going into heat and thereby rendering them infertile. Based on your argument, women are like dogs and need to be clipped in order to quell their true nature. If there are women who think and believe the same way you do, this is truly tragic.
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: BOMBO INSPECTOR
To: All
Date Posted: 09:15:33 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 56.193-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be at 217.136.193.56
Message:
DIGBA-SOWAY, i think you are definitely on the right track. Everythng you wrote makes a lot of sense to me. As a player i have been here and there. The truth is the freaks are the "GBOARKABANAS". Easy prey easy lay.
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 10:57:16 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 87.114.69.199.plusnet.thn-ag2.dyn.plus.net at 87.114.69.199
Message:
As a player i have been here and there. The truth is the freaks are the "GBOARKABANAS". Easy prey easy lay.
i don't know what kind of player you are but as a SCRUM, i need no "GOAL KEEPER" in Rugby. I hope you get my drift.
Bless
Low Grade San San
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 09:46:31 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
If you've been laying down with "freaks," what does that make you?
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: BOMBO INSPECTOR
To: All
Date Posted: 10:26:25 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 56.193-136-217.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be at 217.136.193.56
Message:
You can easily tell by my name.What's the big deal about this FGM thing? There are so many DICKS out there that are more lethal than a razor, causing pain
and moreover spreading diseases. That's what important and what we should be discussing.
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:09 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
Thanks for your sympathy but me and my clitoris are going to the grave together. I believe God made me the way He intended me to be. God's word gives clear instructions and if he needed me to go to a bush and have somebody hack off my clit, he would have let me know. As far as your agrument that this is the only way that women can exercise self control, again I will point you to the word of God. God has instructions for everything and if you believe His word and live accordingly, you don't have to be put through this kind of abuse. In terms of your argument that you need FGM for prolonged lovemaking, that's also not true. Women are capable of multiple orgasims during a lovemaking sessions so we can just go and go. If you read all of my postings, you would know that I wouldn't even waste my time having sex with anyone other than my husband. I reserve all my quickies for him.
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: Tamba Moiwo
To: All
Date Posted: 09:52:42 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gateway-303.energis.gsi.gov.uk at 62.25.109.196
Message:
"but me and my clitoris"
What a way to say it Sis....You sound sufficiently liberated to think the way you do...but ha ! I have my doubts as to your real gender..
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 08:38:13 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-49-205-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.49.205.105
Message:
DIGBA-SOWAY:
The survey you mentioned, if true at all, was probably conducted by a pro FGM organization 500 years ago. Why don't you provide us with a link to add some credibility to your message?
Furthermore, you appeared to believe that women in general lack control of their sexual urges and that surgical, rather than moral or educational interventions are the answer to rectify such behaviours. SHAME ON YOU!!!!
You stated that:
"Another survey revealed non-FGMs
reach orgasm more easier and faster.
Now what is the demerit of this?"
----------------------
It is not a demerit, whatever that means.
But this is beginning to sound like the story of the sour grapes.
"It is indeed true that after
reaching orgasm the woman is
satisfied and does not want
to have anything to do with
a man for sometime..."
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Don't you wish you never had FGM?
A woman can cum as many times as dictated by the rigidity of dicky.
I am almost certain that the women you mentioned in your piece can confirm that.
"The survey also showed FGMs have
a record long time to reach a
climax and can well adapt to
both sexually long-natured and
short-natured partners."
---------------------------
How can FGMs adapt to short-natured men with a "record long time to reach climax" according to you?
It is possible you don't understand sex and you never reach the climax of that God given act. Sorry ya, sorry oh!!!
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 12:46:01 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Hay I am gay and my clitoric does't work. Mbalu and Erica can you help me?. I though I had one but having read all of the BOMBO/TOTO thing you guys are writing about, I decided to touch my tin. Lord and behold my tin is gone. I went to ask my partner but He (she)just laugh at me. So Mbalu and Erica please help?
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:52:39 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Sadam,
Your problem is you are INSANE and don't know your left from your right. Somebody told me you are a dwarf and that your head is so close to your ass that your brains are probably fried by gasses emanating from your Poop.
Go see a doctor, thats what you need. Or go to the green zone and have the American Soldiers execute your dumb-ass.
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: John Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 16:45:32 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Mbalu,
Why being so rude? If you cannot handle a debate, you have no business on this site.
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 15:16:37 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
So because somebody amputated your ass therefore I shoud do the same thing right?. Just look at yourself and pretend you are me. You will never get consern about your amputated ass. Now would you please help me solve my problem. Since your ass was amputated, you should have experence. As for you Erica, sit on it.
Subject: Re: TO THE GBOARKABANAS ON FGM: Erica, Lady J and Mbalu
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 15:04:29 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
Mbalu,
I love you. That was so well said.
Subject: INFATUATED WITH SYLVIA BLYDEN THIS AND THAT
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 02:00:46 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
Entered From: host81-154-219-22.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.219.22
Message:
Can someone tell the world why Cocorioko is so INFATUATED with Sylvia Blyden? A day had not passed in the history of that online paper without someone publishing Sylvia Blyden this and that. Leave the poor woman alone. She is a Sierra Leonean like everyone of us.
Subject: Re: INFATUATED WITH SYLVIA BLYDEN THIS AND THAT
From: SSS
To: All
Date Posted: 13:36:06 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 196.44.99.114
Message:
And the quality of the female writers... Oh God! They are just disgracing themselves with the Grammar in those articles. Articles don't have rhyme or reason. Just malice. Khadija, please shut up. You have turned Sylvia Blyden into the most popular Sierra Leonean next to EBK.
Subject: 2012 SLPP OPPONENTS : ENVIABLE and J . LEIGH!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 00:37:58 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-149-33.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.149.33
Message:
I had a belly laugh when I saw Bra Enviable and John Leigh give each other insincere compliments yesterday on the forum. The "You're the man, No you're the man!" crap became so intense that I nearly choked at the Hypocrisy Overflow. Enough already! Gentlemen, get out your daggers. I see two seasoned politicians testing the waters. Bra Enviable was all sweet and complimentary to JL, smooth-talking Ngor Leigh about working with him to 'reform' the SLPP, and 'sloughing off' the worthless craw-craw outer skin as the party fights to renew itself. Of course, Enviable considers JL to be one of the useless, corrupt deadweights and Cro Magnons that the party must discard, if it were ever to stand a chance of winning an election in Sierra Leone again.
Sure enough, Pa Leigh stumbled into Enviable's trap, effusively praising his rival and even blasting other old orthodox SLPP goats, like Kini Sengbe, who are not quite so forgiving of Enviable's flirtation with the PMDC.
But Bra Enviable was able to turn that act of disloyalty into a statement of principle. Whereas Bra Enviable 'left the SLPP' on principle because of the party's ineptitude and corruption, John Leigh hung around like a ghoulish denizen, doing pro bono attack journalism on Margai and Ernest Koroma and eventually capitulated and bowed before Berewa's candidacy. He became a peggy for a leadership that truly despised him, even as he waited for scraps to be thrown to him from the master's table. As JL painfully tries to spin his squirehood with Kabba's SLPP as valiat loyalty to the palmtree, Enviable floats around regally as strains of the National Anthem tenderly caress him.
Bra Enviable is not the Diasporan frontrunner yet, but he had a very good day yesterday. JL, if you want to be the presidential flagbearer of your party, you have to keep those instincts real sharp. Don't be caught sleeping at the wheel, OK? I'll be observing you, Bra Enviable and Kandeh Yumkellah. Good luck, boys!
Subject: Re: 2012 SLPP OPPONENTS : ENVIABLE and J . LEIGH!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:16:01 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Mr. Somtin Butu:
My response to BRA ENVIABLE was completely genuine and based on the facts on the ground plus my recollection of his postings in this forum. Even so, you are clearly entitled to your views, even if outlandish. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Education the key.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 23:15:06 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Education
Trump attended Choate Rosemary Hall in Wallingford, Connecticut, as well as Chapin located in New York City. After graduation, she spent two years at Georgetown University, then transferred to and graduated magna cum laude[1] from the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania with a bachelor of science in economics in 2004.
Subject: Re: Education the key.
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 00:54:10 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
Bro. Bambay,
I envision you as someone who'd do well on the show Jeopardy because your interest generally don't have a lot of practical use, but then you do a post like this and my only response is "Why"? I don't know if you stay up late smoking potent stuff that most of us gave up long ago, but again I'll say my only response is Why!!!
Subject: Re: Education the key.
From: SGK
To: All
Date Posted: 01:41:26 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 91.84.136.50
Message:
Erica,
This brother might be going through some difficult times. He might be a bit isolated. Probably he needs to talk to someone. I am also concerned about this brother.
Can someone who knows where he is render some support please? The west can be very lonely unlike back home. Please, please, please can someone support him by visiting him or making frequent phone calls? We need each other during difficult circumstances. By helping this brother out of his misery is equivalent to an immense contribution to our country.
Subject: Re: Education the key.
From: RUBBER DUCK
To: All
Date Posted: 05:53:25 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-57-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.57.158
Message:
Mr Kamara , Please don't go there, I don't know if you were on this Forum a few years ago when he threatened to end his life and was given help by some people, ask the forum how he betrayed that help, in particular to a Mr Jalloh
RUBBER DUCK
Subject: Re: Education the key.
From: SGK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:21:46 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 91.84.136.50
Message:
Mr Rubber Duck,
Thank you very much for your piece of advice. I am a new comer here. I only came to know this forum after the Holy month of Ramadan.
Subject: Re: Education the key.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:24:07 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Shame on America, Shame on the world and shame on Democracy that civilized people like us have to be advocated for by savages.
Subject: Re: Education the key.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:50:40 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Don't forget that I came from Africa, from a Third World Country, where, amidst all the problems, I graduated from college, worked at the President's office then came to America, the Greatest Democracy of the World, where I went to college, transcr1pts of which are on the President of the United States' desk, Madam Oprah Winfrey's desk, few Senators and Congress persons' desk, all major news media such as CNN, NBC and MSNBC have records of such a person's scholl records and other major records.
So whom is he isolated from?
Plus, he has just concluded a semester in college, now continuing another semester. For them to see the said persons had to be "rescued" and dumped, don't you think they would want the world to know how a man of that determination would need another person to rescue him, considering he has no crimal record, no bad credit, in fact, has not even established a credit and is legal within that system when the government has not taken his legal status from him, who are you to think you can do anything to such a person or can impress him in any flaky way?
I think sensible people who have been watching it all unfold have realized that it is all a mess.
I don't know what you are thinking orsmoking but I am feeling ire because my blood pressure in fact, after it was checked today, 17/10/07 is 118/70. Good huh! You know why? I am not buying whatever you are selling because I live in the greatest democracy of the world and should I fail that democracy has failed. I know this but you do not know this because you are bussy with self-exaltation; me, I am felling ire!
This is not Idiana Jones times. This is America and must go the American way; except that way has been changed by people like you; funny!
Mind you, we are in a computer age. Forgot! Oooops, my bad!
Are you really observant? Well that is the difference between you, the ones you wish to instigate and I.
How did I do?
Now cool your temperature with "Stranger!"
Subject: Moving back home next January
From: John Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 22:57:37 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: J_conteh@msn.com
Entered From: c-71-224-131-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 71.224.131.184
Message:
Moving back home and I am looking to rent a hhouse yearly. How much do people rent 6-8 bedroom houses. I would be coming with my family so I need a big place.
Subject: Re: Moving back home next January
From: awana north south
To: All
Date Posted: 15:01:44 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: fjallohson@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac51391.bb.sky.com at 90.197.19.145
Message:
John,its time you build your own or invest in one before
you intend on home going.However if you are still interested by then,please contact Awana north south at fjallohson@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: The Functions of Human Skin
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:23:20 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
The Functions of Human Skin
The skin is the largest organ of the body. This elastic, protective covering is thinnest on the lips and eyelids and thickest on the palms and soles. Following are the six primary functions of the skin:
Click a funtion to learn more
Subject: Pikin Bizness takes Hydrocephalus child to Kenya
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:20:47 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
One year old Francis Kpulum last Friday left the shores of Sierra Leone with his mother Emilia Gbassa for Kenya where an operation is expected to be performed at the Gertrude’s’ Garden Children Hospital to stop the swelling of his brain (hydrocephalus).
The Mother Emilia Gbassa told journalists that the sickness started when his son was three and half months old.
After this disclosure, she said she took Francis to the Bo Government hospital where she was told that he had hydrocephalus and that they cannot do the operation nor are they able to treat him.
Mrs Gbassa stated that she was then referred to Freetown.
In Freetown she said she took Francis to the Princess Christian Maternity Hospital (PCMH) where she was again told that they cannot perform the operation to cure him.
Speaking with a sad tone she explained that she then went to Mercy Ship but the conditions got worse.
She explained that three months later she traveled to Guinea where they did a brain scan on her son’s head and she was told that he had Hydrocephalus.
Because of the sickness she said that her husband abandoned her.
The mother said that she came to Pikin Bizness through a former Sierra Leone Peoples Party (SLPP) Parliamentarian who accompanied her to the office.
As they prepared to leave, she expressed the hope that with the help of Pikin Buziness “I know my child will be saved”.
Print
Subject: FODAY MANSARAY NA BOR-BOR PAIN
From: PEACE
To: All
Date Posted: 22:08:53 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74
Message:
The Foday Mansaray I know has been a licensed Mortgage Banker for the past 22 years. He was once employed at National Development Bank (SL) in the early 80's. He is a strong APC supporter. He studied in Italy and the United States. I know he studied Economics of Banking .He is a Community Activist, Businessman and owns his own Mortgage Company, Real Estate Agency, Interest in Title Insurance Agencies and Restaurants.
He is a trooper and one Sierra Leonean who will stand behind the green, white and blue to improve our banking system. A Close friend once told me that he refused to trade his citizenship, despite all his success hear in the U S.
Let’s give him a break…...22 Years Banking Experience ........Sierra Leone Can benefit something
out of him.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY NA BOR-BOR PAIN
From: PORROT
To: All
Date Posted: 22:12:42 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
"I know he studied Economics of Banking"
At what level and in what school?... Whats the name of the degree? Bachelors in Economics of Banking?
Bo mi man lef we yah.. The man is not FIT to be a KAKA BAILER let alone a Deputy top Banker.
Subject: Re: FODAY MANSARAY NA BOR-BOR PAIN
From: PORROT
To: All
Date Posted: 22:20:29 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74
Message:
NOW ,YOU DAY FEET EYE THE KAKA BAILER.YOUR STUPID IDIOT.EVEN KAKA BAILER NA SCIENCE YOU NEED TO DO JOB RIGHT.YOU ARE SO FIT AND NOBODY DAY TALK ABOUT YOU.
FOOL.IF THEN ASK QUESTION ABOUT HIM BY THE RIGHT PERSON EN HE FEEL FOR ANSWER FOR THE JOB . THEN THAT NA HIM PROBLEM WITH ERNEST.
WAIT LE THEM CALL YOU ASAHO.GBAKO
Subject: KEMOH SESAY HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 22:02:52 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
Message:
Kemoh Sesay entered the politics of Sierra Leone as a member of parliament for the PDP-Sorbeh in 1996. After the death of the Hon. Thaimu Bangura, Kemoh conspired with some other ill-motivated members of the PDP to destroy that formidable political party for their selfish needs.
In 2002 he joined the APC and represented Port Loko in parliament. While in the last parliament, he was properly involved in a shady passport deal. That matter is still under investigation.
Recently, Kemoh Seasy came to the USA and went to one of his friends in Virginia. He(Kemoh) asked his friend to allow him to make a toll free call with his house phone. Out of the kindness of his heart, the guy allowed Kemoh to use his house phone.
When the phone bill came the guy was surprised to see that Kemoh Sesay made an international call which cos ted the guy a huge amount of money. At a public gathering in Maryland, the guy attacked Kemoh for that act of dishonesty.
If president Koroma is really serious about eradicating corruption, he must withdraw the nomination of Kemoh Sesay for the position of transport minister immediately. Because Kemoh has clearly been proved to be very corrupt.
What sense does it make for president Koroma to assure us that he will weed out corruption and then nominates a very corrupt person to serve his administration.
Since he took over as our president, Mr.Ernest Koroma has not yet marched his words with his actions and that is not a good start.
We need a president who can translate his words into actions so that we will trust him. The president of Sierra Leone must be a credible person.
Subject: NOR BLAME OR FALA SAIDU BANGURA
From: awoko
To: All
Date Posted: 17:41:23 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: john k@yahoo .com
Entered From: pool-72-66-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.26.251
Message:
SAIDU NOR LEF FENI PAN NATIN. SAIDU E PAPA NA DEM TIFF NAR S.I.KOROMA FAM TAY DE FAM DON. E GET WAN STUPID BRODER NA LAUREL . SAIDU NOR TO BETEH BORBOR.
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD.
From: Bankie Liber man
To: All
Date Posted: 08:26:08 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-218-238-29.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net at 69.218.238.29
Message:
Alpha Saidu you nar disgrace to the POW alumni and its shameful. BTW "costed" is not an english word. Be it American or Temne. Bo pan all di L & D.S?
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD.
From: THOKO GBANA
To: All
Date Posted: 11:04:26 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Bankie ask saidu what happened to the funds of the OPWA when he was treasurer. HE STOLE THE MONEY AND THEY ALMOST LOCKED HIM UP FOR THIEVRY. LEH DIS CRASE BORBOR JUS CLEAROUT BEFOE WE NAR DIS FORUM YA ME MAN. NAR DREB DEM DREB AM NAR POW. TELL AM SAY NAR SO WE LIE SAY. WEEN DEM DREB AM NAR POW NAR PA ISCANDARI GO FEN SCHOOL FOR AM NAR COLLEGIATE. NAR UNGRATEFUL INGRATE.
NAR ME PAPA FOS PA ISCANDARI TALK TO FOR FEN SCHOOL FOR AM
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD.
From: Fact
To: All
Date Posted: 06:54:42 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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President Koroma has not appointed Kemoh as a Minister, and has just nominated him.If at all, he has any criminal record, Parliamentary Committee will dig that out.
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD.
From: twisted mind
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Date Posted: 02:42:47 10/17/07 ()
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saidu udat tiff reach you so called daddy en mammy
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD.
From: truth
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Date Posted: 02:05:59 10/17/07 ()
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what's the criminal record? the so-called passport deal under investigation? the unpaid long distance bill? are you serious? do you know the meaning of "criminal record"?
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD.
From: Bundoo willems
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Date Posted: 02:40:41 10/17/07 ()
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This man has made so many enemies on this forum that I wonder how he is going to exist in community of good sierra leoneans. The kemoh sesay that I know is an upstanding man from port loko.
saidu cannot genuinely speak about criminal records because he is nothing more than a rebel and that is the criminal record we all would like to know about. We also understand that both of his parents are serial embezzlers. His mothere is known to foster trouble in the st josephs convent old girsl association adn his father is a well known swindler. what can you expect from someone with that kind of parentage who is also a rebel. I personally know of people whose homes were raided by saidu in freetown during the RUF afrc 1999 invasion of freetown. saidu has nothing to add to the debate but lies which is to be expected of an RUF rebel.
Subject: Re: KEMOH SESAY HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD.
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 22:36:37 10/16/07 ()
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Kafri Saidu Bangura, thank you for bringing this very important matter of Kemoh Sesay to our attention. May Allah continue to tug at your heartsrtings. I, however, have a question I am dying to ask you...
Is it true that your psycotic anger at the APC is because the only position you ever held with the old APC was that of Piss Boy?
Job descr1ption of Piss Boy: When toilet facilities are unavailable, you hold a pail to the alagba's wee-wee so he can tinkle.
If you indeed have this job in your resume, congrats on your strong constitution. If, however, you have never endured such a job, then kindly forgive me for bringing it up.
Please carry on wilfully sliming people you just can't stand.
Your-in-pious vendetta,
Fen.
Subject: APC CONTINUES THEIR VIOLENCE EVEN AFTER....
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 21:41:49 10/16/07 ()
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Concord Times (Freetown)
NEWS
16 October 2007
Posted to the web 16 October 2007
By Mohamed Vandi
Freetown
Supporters of the ruling All People Congress party (APC) are reported to have gone on the rampage yesterday in Kenema town thereby attacking the office of the opposition Sierra Leone Peoples Party.
According to our reporter, the desperate supporters were only contained by the police after using tear gas canisters to disperse the crowd.
Maada Sellu, Young Generation Leader of the Sierra Leone Peoples Party (SLPP), east yesterday complained to Amadu Kaikai, Local Unit Commander (LUC), Kenema Police Station, that APC supporters wearing T-shirts with inscr1ptions "kaka we nor wan yeri" during their victory celebration in the district mocked and intimidated SLPP supporters and at the same time pelted stones at the office of the SLPP.
"I am calling on the police to put a stop to such behavior," he said The APC had stated that the SLPP supporters pelted stones at them while trying to celebrate their victory in the last elections.
Mustapha Kamara, an APC supporter said the inscr1ption on their T-shirts was not meant to taunt SLPP supporters but to celebrate their party's victory.
"The victory dance is to preach reconciliation and peace because as Sierra Leoneans, we are all the same people," he said and added that their leadership has advised all APC supporters to desist from any act of violence.
Further, the LUC had advocated for calm and assured that proper security has been put in place to avert trouble.
"Representatives of APC and SLPP have met in my office and I am sure the dance will go peacefully," he said.
Meanwhile, the police have arrested four people wearing APC attire for misbehaving during the victory dance.
Subject: Re: APC CONTINUES THEIR VIOLENCE EVEN AFTER....
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 22:53:10 10/16/07 ()
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Mr. Propaganda, U nor go blow?
By the way, I just got my "kaka we nor wan yeri" T-shirt. I plan to wear it at the next Salone function in the Piedmont and the Raleigh-Durham areas. I swear by the worthless palmtree, if any SLPP supporter- especially one with the initials, AS- tries to act funny, I'm gonna spaz on them. So when you see me all decked in red, greenies take cover. It's gonna be Osaaaaiiii!
Subject: Re: APC CONTINUES THEIR VIOLENCE EVEN AFTER....
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 07:35:48 10/17/07 ()
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Bo.. I am not in your neck of woods so we will not see. but in january, i will be in that part of the world for two weeks en ar go try for see some of UNU.
Subject: PMDC Nominees excited to serve
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 19:35:13 10/16/07 ()
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PMDC Nominees excited to serve
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As the final list of nominations for the cabinet position was read last Friday, the People’s Movement for Democratic Change(PMDC) which supported the ruling All People’s Congress (APC) party to emerge victorious in the Presidential elections has clinched four out of a total of 10 cabinet positions.
Dr. Moses Kapu (60+) a nominee for the Minister of Marine Resources said that he was very happy for the nomination as he feels excited to serve his country and his people. Dr Kapu who hails from Bonthe disclosed that he has worked for a lot of Universities in Africa and United States of America and has even worked as Senior Scientist at a US Government Agency in Atlanta Georgia.
The toxicologist who is a founding member of the PMDC and Chairman of the Georgia Chapter of the PMDC said that he believes in change and Sierra Leone need a positive change.
Captain Benjamin Davies the PMDC nominee for the Ministry of Lands Housing and the Environment said that this was the opportunity he has been longing for to work for the people of this country and he is excited with the appointment. The Maritime Capt.(50) who traces his origin from Freetown and Bonthe and later went to study in England said his Ministry will have an open door policy which will allow room for any questions and suggestions for a positive change.
Subject: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: HOLLY MOLLY
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Date Posted: 18:55:26 10/16/07 ()
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From Awareness Times Newspaper in Freetown
Breaking News
Sierra Leone's Bank Governor to be sacked by new President
By Awareness Times
Oct 16, 2007, 22:13
Governor of the Central Bank of Sierra Leone, Dr. James D. Rogers and his deputy, Alhaji Mohamed Fofana may soon be thrown out of their offices by the new All Peoples Congress (APC) Government, bank sources disclosed this evening.
Our sources say that President Ernest Bai Koroma was recently said to have held meetings with the duo asking them to prepare for their exit.
Our credible bank sources also confirmed that if Rogers is removed, he was to be replaced by Dr. Samura Kamara, the former Financial Secretary who is currently in town on a sabbatical from his plum job in Washington DC as an IMF Executive.
In the case of the Deputy Governor, Alhaji Fofana, our sources say he might be relieved by Ms. Andrina Coker, a senior Director at the Bank or one banker known as Foday Mansaray who is said to be an APC supporter from somewhere in the Diaspora. These two names of Coker and Mansaray are however unconfirmed.
Our sources however confirm that President Ernest Koroma has told both Rogers and his Deputy that he does not want them on his new financial team and even wants them to resign voluntarily a move they are both said to be resisting.
Meanwhile, the nominated Minister of Finance, David O. Carew this afternoon passed through the Appointments Committee in Parliament where he was approved by APC, SLPP and PMDC members in the Committee. David Carew should now face the General Body of Parliament on Thursday where it is expected he would be speedily approved.
As we went to press, efforts to get the two Central Bank bosses to comment on the pending decisions proved futile but both Samura Kamara and Andrina Coker were reported to currently be in America attending an international financial meeting on behalf of the Central Bank. David Carew is expected to join them in Washington DC at a World Bank meeting as soon as he gets approved on Thursday as Sierra Leone’s new Minister of Finance & Development.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 23:11:28 10/16/07 ()
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Whether, you fanatical termites, like it or not, Foday Mansaray is your next D.B.G. Learn to live with it! You will die of envy and 'bad hart'!
Congratulations, Mr. Deputy Bank Governor. May you amaze your critics and stupefy your detractors. You are the most qualified person ever to be nominated for such a senior position in the bank. You actually have serious banking experience. All the other guys in the past had zero experience. They just crammed a lot of chowder in school and grabbed some experience in an insignificant U.N job before trotting to Freetown for a political appointment. See for yourself the mess they made of the economy! Foday Mansaray, you go boy!
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: Governator
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Date Posted: 19:00:24 10/16/07 ()
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I don't know much about Foday Mansaray personally,my only contact with him is in this forum.If he thinks he is suitable to be Governor or Deputy,I would advice him to post his credentials so that we can objectively evaluate him.
Bank Governor is not an easy job,the candidate should be well vast in Economics,International Finance and International Relations.The minimum qualification in my estimation should be a PhD in Economics.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: concern citizen
To: All
Date Posted: 16:01:43 10/17/07 ()
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YOU ARE TALK A MAN WITH OVER 20YEAYS EXPERIENCE IN
IN FIELD.
na d sam bok bok don plew salone
Big book and no common sense.
shut up
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: kamara
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Date Posted: 19:04:30 10/16/07 ()
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If Foday Mansaray was going to be appointed deputy Governor. I am sure Cocorioko would have put it on the front page by now
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: HOLLY CRAP
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Date Posted: 19:05:27 10/16/07 ()
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Kabbs is on vacation.. Thats why.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 19:04:20 10/16/07 ()
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Steve Swarray was Bank Governor- He had no PhD....He
(mansaray) Might not need a PhD to be Deputy Governor.
This is the APC government-Square pegs in round holes.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: Lawrence Billgreyhood.
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Date Posted: 20:26:24 10/16/07 ()
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Entered From: caintdef.sbc.com at 144.160.130.16
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Foday Mansaray for Bank Governor? God forbid! We don’t want him there. The guy is not competent enough. Let him just forget about that. I know he is the one posting these “CRAPS” The leader is very clever, putting the right people in the right places. Way to Go E.B.K don’t let these “clowns in the Diaspora” fool you. They are very riotous. We need peaceful people to represent the A.P.C. Long Live E.B.K, Long Live Sierra Leone. To all you disgruntled Clowns in the Diaspora, BABU EYE OH!!!!!!! AH GO DIE WITH LAUGH. DEN DON BROKE!. AH!! AH!!! AH!!! AH. ME CHEST GO BUSS.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: O'Thaim Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:00:44 10/16/07 ()
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I don't know this Foday Mansaray guy personally but I have heard a lot about him .I don't agree with your comments about him.I learnt he is a good banker.He has his own mortgage company .In addition to that, he has qualifications in banking that make him fit for the job. I think we have to stop this Pull-Him-Down syndrome.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: CONCERN SIERRA LEONEAN
To: All
Date Posted: 22:06:37 10/16/07 ()
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It is ok to criticize someone out of good faith, but out of "BAD HEART" is what has lead us to where we are today.I believe we need successful people like Mr. Foday Mansaray who has over 20 years of banking experience to help rebuild our country. If the people os Sierra Leone trust EBK to vote for him, who are we to criticize his judgements?. Please stop this nonsense, let's stand behind our leader, trust his judgement in rebuilding our country.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: Alieru Bakarr
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Date Posted: 22:52:14 10/16/07 ()
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I am very proud of Foday, We need to give him our total supports.
Not to pull him down.
He has contributed alot to the Sierra Leoneans community in USA and back home. We need people like him. Someone who care about our country and ready to help.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: Pa. Sandi
To: All
Date Posted: 01:27:27 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
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God forbid. What do some sierra leoneans think about our country? They think our country is a dumpster where some of them can just put their garbage. Look at Foday Mansaray who wanted to become the next deputy bank governor. Crook Foday. I hope EBK will not even think about this. Foday, can you please give that Ghanaian fellow the money you took from him or a house.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: O'Thaime Kamara
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Date Posted: 09:03:14 10/17/07 ()
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Please stop this foolish character-assassination.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: Pa. Sandie
To: All
Date Posted: 18:15:56 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
Do you know what is character assasination? Do you think Sierra Leoneans are still fools? Give me a break. I know you are one of his supporters. No way for your bra.EBK is not the momoh type.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: Governator
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Date Posted: 19:50:07 10/16/07 ()
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Now I believe what someone said about you on this a while ago that you never understand what you read.Do you know what,"in my estimation" means.
Subject: Re: Foday Mansaray to be Deputy Bank Governor?
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 21:30:20 10/16/07 ()
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That was too harsh my friend.. Read my reply again and notice that there is a condition in my reply...'may not'...
Subject: Liquor Liscensing Board and the Planning Dept. must act
From: Fefelamp
To: All
Date Posted: 17:19:35 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: fefelamp@aol.com
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According to the Head of the Sierra Leone Fire Force: “Two Billion Leones (Le 2bn) Worth of properties destroyed by fire in Sierra Leone.
We are seating on a time bomb and there are no positive signs of coming out of the situation.”
He said people are making big mistakes with regards fire accidents, citing example of Filling Station across the country dealing in very high inflammable liquids like petrol and gasses where at the same time entertainment centres are housed. He said it is dangerous for one to drink and get drunk in a place where petrol is stored because according to him, in the event one lights up a cigarette, it may lead to serious fire accident.
Subject: KNOCK OUT QUOTE OF THE DAY
From: Justice
To: All
Date Posted: 17:04:41 10/16/07 ()
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Talking to Sengbe the tribalist, Bra Enviable finished him with the following words:
"Political opponents will surely love average thinkers like you, Sengbe."
Bra Enviable couldnt have said it any better. Sengebe the the AVERAGE THINKER needs to think beyond corrupt Ngor-ism.
Subject: Re: KNOCK OUT QUOTE OF THE DAY
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 23:15:47 10/16/07 ()
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Message:
Unu nor go blow for kiss Enviable ihn Axx?
Subject: If it was the life of YOUR child in danger!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 16:12:58 10/16/07 ()
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I read with a heavy heart the plight of a young mother and her sick son and it brought tears to my eyes, i hope it does to you too.
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1226&cntnt01returnid=15
If you missed it.. look again..
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1226&cntnt01returnid=15
The pang of helplessness, hopelessness hits me.. I can almost see the mother taking the child out for a wash.. the stares, the sneers...
Africa been what it is, I can almost hear it..
Witch, Korkor, satan.. Sweah...
When at most the only thing that is ostracizing this poor lady and her son in her community is a swelling brain which can easily be relieved by a shunt or modern western medicine and care.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocephalus
What can we do..?
How can we help..?
Creating awareness, pushing the media, prodding the business community the international and diplomatic community in salone?
Its not all about our beaches and kolonko's and diamonds..
Can we find a way to help..?
5 dollars. Top up, less than 20 minutes talk.. its gone.. This boy could use 5 dollars.
10 dollars. One round of Heineken at paddys.. gone.. end up pan piss.. en liver damage..
50 dollars. A night out with a soba tanni at Atlantic or Alex’s and you are not even sure she will give you some..
Can we find a way to help..
Please.. please please...
Use your kids Christmas toys money.. Pikin get enough already and even Christ will be happy..
Ramadan just don...If you did not pull sara... there could not be a better time and cause..
I am pledging a 100 dollars to pikin business to get this rolling...
If anyone knows how to get it to pikin business or this mother.. let me know at rarayboy@hotmail.com
Thanks for reading.
A few Heineken can save a life, and its not only yours.
Subject: Re: If it was the life of YOUR child in danger!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 23:35:19 10/16/07 ()
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Message:
I was trolling the net..
spoiling for a fight, at least a jab.
Saw the post by Candid One and was rearing to let loose a fusillade, mischievous glint in eye, granite jaw a-taut...
Read the post, started bawling like a colic baby..
My granite jaw, a mushy mess; my steely heart dissolved by the sorrow you broadcast and the empathy you showed..
I salute you. Will like to contribute, if a credible source is found. Been busting chops from top to bottom. I stop here tonight to reflect on the meaning of life and humanity.
Tomorrow, I troll again.
Good night, my friend.
Subject: Re: If it was the life of YOUR child in danger!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 08:22:32 10/17/07 ()
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This is a good fight to spoil for..
I hear even mike tyson has a charity..
HelpMikeKillDonKing.com
Subject: Re: If it was the life of YOUR child in danger!
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 18:53:18 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 62.189.241.185
Message:
This is very touching indeed can someone please provide contact details for this Pikin Business organisation as I would also like to make a donation.
Whilst I do not want to politicise a rather sensitive topic I can't help but say that this is a typical case of misplaced priority. If the Kenyans are equiped to perform such operations why cant we? Instead of splashing out on expensive 4x4's, expensive trips abroad and big mansions why can't we maintain and equip our hospitals???
I would not like to be in the same queue with certain people on Judgement day!!!
Subject: Re: If it was the life of YOUR child in danger!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 20:03:44 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thanks Salone boy,
I just got forward the email and phone number for pikin business.
All should note that My Abboud is not soliciting funds, neither am i affiliated to him or pikin business..
I Just thought we should not alway wait until we are asked.
For a pledge, you may contact Adonis Abboud : 0023276667557
or pikinbizness@yahoo.com.
Subject: Re: If it was the life of YOUR child in danger!
From: Hassan Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:38:39 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: kamson10@hotmail.com
Entered From: dsl092-165-252.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net at 66.92.165.252
Message:
Pikin business can contact me for a $100.00 (one hundred)through kamson10@hotmail.com. Please make sure you are an actual rep for the organization.
Subject: Re: If it was the life of YOUR child in danger!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 18:43:19 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Mr kamara, i am in no way affiliated with the organization..
I am also looking for a way to contact the mother directly or tru pikin business..
I read the story on Awoko and wanted to draw attention to the mothers plight..
My take is, if a lot of people hear the story, a good samaritan amongsts us might be a doctor in this field, and might volunteer there services.
Keep reading and i will post pekin business email as soon as i get it..
Subject: REVO - A Worthy Cause? Better than news about Sylvia anyday
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 18:53:05 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Reverend Kanu...
Can you please carry a scrolling ticker or a side banner of this boys story from Awoko and let us try and help this mother..
This is a cause noblier, bigger and worthier of a man of God and this manifestation of God tru his able servants as you..
I am going to forward this story to everyone on my mailing lists, plus forward it also to all the news papers and implored them all make this headline story..
Subject: Re: REVO - A Worthy Cause? Better than news about Sylvia anyday
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 20:42:52 10/16/07 ()
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Entered From: c-68-54-210-212.hsd1.in.comcast.net at 68.54.210.212
Message:
Great job Candid! You make a good point. Keep the pressure on - we need to make a difference.This is a worthy cause.
Subject: SLPP Publicity Secretary Admits Corruption
From: YUK
To: All
Date Posted: 13:13:54 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: yu_kamara@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 129.237.225.116
Message:
Sierra Leone: SLPP Publicity Secretary Admits Corruption
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Concord Times (Freetown)
16 October 2007
Posted to the web 16 October 2007
Mohammed Vandi
Freetown
Publicity Secretary of the Sierra Leone Peoples Party (SLPP), Kailahun district, Friday admitted that institutionalised corruption was rampant in the past SLPP government.
Vandi Moijueh who is also a Councillor in the Kailahum District Council told journalists at the Kenema Police Station that the international community was not in support of the defeated SLPP because the latter was siphoning donor funds meant for poverty reduction.
"I am calling on the All Peoples Congress (APC) government and the law enforcement agencies to investigate and bring to book all corrupt officials who contributed to the sufferings of the people of Sierra Leone," Moijueh said.
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On his own part, Councillor Moijueh said he is free of any corrupt dealings. "I am a strong SLPP Councillor and I was awarded the contract to rehabilitate the road leading to Kailahun district. I am corrupt-free because I implemented the contract given to me as required," he said.
Moijueh expressed his readiness to face the Anti-Corruption Commission to prove his case and maintained that he will forever be an SLPP stalwart.
"I will never leave the SLPP for any other political party," he said.
Subject: Re: SLPP Publicity Secretary Admits Corruption
From: O'thaim
To: All
Date Posted: 15:34:43 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.59
Message:
Sounds patriotic, at least from a distance. But ...... come to think of it..... I doubt very much if this Vandi guy could have taken such a bold declaration had the SLPP won the election. Looking at it critically, isn't it a kind of 'goody' trap? Once the investigation gets underway, these same folks might use it as an excuse to launch another rebel movement!
WAN...WAN...ANG WOOTH ANG TEP ENG-CAMPAIGN! KA-KAY MOYENG....AN-YEEKI. ANT-DAYR TE-TEP! GBENG GBENG NGA NUNG FINOOOUNG. ANG LOM ANG FOYEH LANEH-AY! KE TEK KENG! LONTHA!
Subject: Re: SLPP Publicity Secretary Admits Corruption
From: Ketkah
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Date Posted: 06:38:45 10/17/07 ()
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Munor pneh munor-adi. Anratha anfweh-laneh. Owaii Osaii.
Subject: Re: SLPP Publicity Secretary Admits Corruption
From: O'Thaim
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Date Posted: 13:09:05 10/17/07 ()
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TAMARANEH!
Subject: Professionals and Concerned Citizens
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 09:19:08 10/16/07 ()
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http://standardtimespress.net/cgi-bin/artman/publish/article_2191.shtml
Professionals and Concerned Citizens Should Join In Fighting Corruption
Posted by Dylan Sogie-Thomas of London United Kingdom on Oct 15, 2007, 17:01
Professionals and concerned citizens play a critical role in fighting against corruption. I am concerned about corruption in the public sector as it undermines democracy and the rule of law, leads to violation of human rights, allows organized crime and other threats to human security to flourish. I am trying to provide hard facts on major corruption in government and effort to motivate people to fight against it.
My focus group at the moment will be on the Transitional Team, Law enforcement personnel, Auditors and the Media.
Transitional Team
The Transitional Team is made up of professionals from all works of life. I am happy with the progress made so far in assessing government ministries and in discovering massive embezzlement or corrupt practices by government officials. I am only disappointed that their report will not be disclosed to the public .The Transitional team should find out about the following before submitting their final report.
-find out the signatories to every corrupt government institutions and should verify authorization for the withdrawal of funds.
-find out who the legal advisers attached to that corrupt department and try to find out if he/she advised these officials about the implications of embezzlement. If he/she advised them and they refused to obey his advised the Team should enquire why that individual continue to serve in that capacity. ‘Maybe he was enjoying kickbacks’’
-find out who the auditors were and the finance directors for that department or government projects. The Team need to ascertain when these corrupt activities started and what kind of audit report was given. Auditors and professional accountant should not be a party to fraud. If the audit report given was unqualified even though there was massive embezzlement it should cast doubt as to the competence of that auditor.
-The Team should identify the common abuse conducted in these ministries example bribery, kickbacks, patronage and nepotism.
-any government official that is ineffective or corrupt should be removed from their position. It would be a disadvantage to keep directors with failed policies.
-upon completion of the Transitional team report the public will expect government to seize and freeze suspects assets and accounts. Corrupt officials should be removed from duties and charged to court. Prison sentence should be imposed and banning order preventing such individuals from public positions. These individuals should also be reported to the Professional body that they belong or were they are members .example Bar Association, ICASL, ACCA etc.
Law Enforcement
Judges, lawyers, police including those responsible for investigation prosecution, punishment and assessment of crime should send out a clear message that society does not tolerate corruption.
-arrest and prosecute perpetrators
-provide assistance to other professionals in fulfilling their mandate to investigate
-advocate for policies and programs that facilitate prosecution and make criminal justice system more accessible.
-encourage law enforcement training programs to cover areas where corruption could occur.
Lawyers should also be convicted on money laundering in relation to sale of counterfeit goods or property. They should be held personally liable as this will motivate them to protect their integrity and cover their backs. Lawyers in the past have been involved in many corrupt activities ‘’sale of counterfeit goods and turning blind eye to it’’. Lawyers are aware that counterfeit goods/property were being openly sold they didn’t care as long as they were taking money from their client.
Bar Association should advise its members on all matters relating to corruption or money laundering including guidance to lawyers about their professional and legal duties and disciplinary actions should be taken when members breach such ethics.
Auditors and Professional Accountant should be able to protect and prevent intentional behavior and actions that undermines the will of the people, waste of public resources and activities that undermine accountability and transparency. Auditors must have a zero tolerance on corruption.
-identify supplier fraud- a supplier offering a purchasing or procurement officer a personal incentive , such as money or a car , land to sign a purchase contract with them over that of competitors .Government contracts should be transparent and suppliers should be chosen based on value for money.
-directors submitting falsified payroll or timesheets , creating fictitious staff members and diverting the wages or salaries into bank accounts they have access to should be eliminated.
Auditors failing to perform their duties should be reported to the relevant professional body such as ICASL, ACCA, ICAEW etc so that disciplinary actions can be taken.
Media and Concerned Citizens
The media can shape public perception about corruption, familiarize the public with available resources, educate policy makers about the problem and the need for effective services and policy. The media should encourage the public to come forward by reporting anyone suspected in corrupt practice ‘preventive method should be used to fight corruption’’. It would serve as a deterrent by warning perpetrators of the consequences of their actions.
It is the media responsibility for giving the people correct information .They should request for government information and advocate for freedom of the press. Transparency and accountability of government officials should be their main concern. The media should have access to public records and documents in which the ‘’the business of the people’’ is stored in some tangible form.
-convey message to perpetrators and would be perpetrators that abuse of public funds will not be tolerated and that they will be held accountable.
Concerned citizens can play a fundamental role. They can help spread the word about how corruption affects the country, advocate for needed policy and reform. Also report abuse when they suspect it. Citizens should also advocate for needed services and policies in their community in other to vote for a political party in the future.
Subject: Re: Professionals and Concerned Citizens
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 14:59:47 10/16/07 ()
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You have just spoken for many of us Sierra Leoneans if not all!!!
Thank you very much.
Subject: Re: Professionals and Concerned Citizens
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 13:57:37 10/16/07 ()
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A quiet encouraging and thrilling piece of work. My brother, this is a very good piece of writing I wish this could be implemented. If it is, then that would smack cruption good bye and say hello to full fledge development.
Thanks bro. God will bless you.
Subject: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 09:10:41 10/16/07 ()
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Brother John Leigh, the hints you dropped on this forum about the planned reconstruction of the SLPP did catch my attention. Political misfortunes come and go, and in their stead, those chastened by experience do emerge with stronger leadership qualities. Without necessarily knowing you in person, the unflagging style that marked your days at our diplomatic mission in the United States, came close to vouching for your character. If the announced bid to resuscitate the SLPP is as genuine as your steadfastness, then you can enlist the support of this writer. Once the old "contaminants" have been purged within its veins, thinkers with a nationalist vision can infuse the SLPP with a sense of direction to retake Sierra Leone.
The SLPP needs to slough off its unproductive skin, and yesterday's mistakes must never be forgotten. As a matter of fact, they should be brought to the fore, so that they can constantly remind the party's stewards that an abandonment of integrity can take the SLPP, and Sierra Leone, to rack and ruin. By bribing his way through a coterie of selfish friends, Tejan Kabbah's leadership of the party disappointed some of us long before his lackluster style could throw Sierra Leone and the SLPP into retrogression. A party that allows a few selfish individuals to commandeer the seat of leadership through bribery has failed before it could even test its mettle in power.
Some of us had to leave, confident in the belief that reformation was an impossibility as long as pirates controlled the party's rudder.
Now that bad blood is {apparently} on its way out of the party's arteries, the SLPP can be steered toward its nationalist goals. In the struggle to retake Sierra Leone from the APC, I am willing, and ready, to join popular efforts in making the SLPP a national party with roots stretching from Kabala to Kailahun. For the sake of the nationalist desires that brought the party into existence, the SLPP must shine anew with the same flame that replaced British colonial rule.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 17:02:33 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear BRA ENVIABLE:
Thank you very much. Yes, yes, I am determined to help reform my party. We need a two-party system in SL if we are going to build a genuine democratic society of prosperity and give voters the power to compel the good governance of our ravaged country by providing them with a choice of parties. This won't be easy.
I and others would most certainly be delighted to work with someone like you and your type who can debate fearlessly without holding grudges to help recreate the REAL SLPP even though I know that we won't always agree on every issue every time.
In my view, the SLPP of the ousted administration was really not the genuine SLPP at all. The leadership deviated from the party's core principles. The elite feared good people and promoted and protected some bad people.
Money-grubbing, kapu-kapu, favoritism, discrimination, selfishness, unreasonable dynastic tendencies and incompetence gained the upperhand then among the leadership group and their cronies. Hence, they did not appear to listen carefully to the peoples' cries and made decisions in their own image.
I never fitted in that terrible environment. In fact, I was deliberately held at bay by Kabbah's people! Now the rank and file want different arrangements to cope with the tough demands of a more enlightened public!
I thus look forward to an early opportunity to explore the possibilities with you in our country's best interests. Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 18:24:08 10/16/07 ()
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"The leadership deviated from
the party's core principles"
(John Leigh)
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John, it is refreshing to read about "core principles" pertaining to Salone party politics.
What really are those "core principles" of the SLPP?
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:40:01 10/17/07 ()
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Your Majesty:
Details at a more convenient time. Meanwhile, thanks for the inquiry. -JL
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Brother of Sengbe
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Date Posted: 12:31:20 10/16/07 ()
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Stay where you are at!! We do not need judases who hand power to the enemy on a silver platter just because they are disgruntled about intra-political activities that they did not have the fortitude to successfully oppose.
We in the SLPP do not need back-stabbers anymore in our party.
I say this to ALL PMDCians: STAY AWAY FROM THE SLPP!!! Stay within your ranks in the pmdc.
We very well know that we shall overcome in the future. We are regrouping amongst ourselves - the tough and trustworthy loyalists.
Our Party will NEVER AGAIN be impregnated with opportunists and disloyal cowards.
And where would the akartas be without the help of JUDAS? Would they be governing today? HELL NO!!
Please stay in the niche y'alls have carved for yourselves in marriage to the akartas. We will be just fine without your hypocrisy and cowardice.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 17:24:25 10/16/07 ()
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Dear Brother Sengbe:
We need to be a little be more forgiving of our PMDC siblings. I am very willing to welcome them with open arms back into our party because, in my view, many had legitimate cause to feel deeply frustrated and thus split from Kabbah's leadership. Many now realize that PMDC is really not the answer and wish to help steer SLPP back to its core principles. I am all for this.
Let's face it, the ousted administration was not ideal SLPP at all. Corruption was extensive, incompetence was widespread and leadership was truly poor. Besides, issues of dire importance to a poor struggling populace were not attended to. Makeni was unSLPP completely.
Only fellows like you and me were willing to take it on the chin for our party's sake and fight it out to the bitter, loosing end because we know what the REAL SLPP and the OLD APC are all about.
On the other hand, many party members do not really know our party well enough to stick with it through nearly five years of frustrating leadership and bad news.
I respectfully appeal to you to please be generous in your re-evaluation of ex-PMDCians. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Brother of Sengbe
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Date Posted: 17:04:31 10/17/07 ()
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Bra John, I thank you for the appeal in your response, and I will consider it affirmatively on the following conditions:
1. Loyalty to our party, the SLPP, MUST be adhered to under ANY and ALL CIRCUMSTANCES for a member to be considered to be a true-blooded SLPPer. We should not tolerate members with the mindset of little children, whom, when they lose the game would yearn to take their ball [or is it their "balls"] and go home to Momma and cry on her lap, or form their own "team" of "nincompoops".
2. We should have a amendment to our constitution stipulating that even though we cannot debar any qualified Sa Lonian interested in joining our ranks, we MUST NEVER allow DISLOYAL entities as returning participants / members from holding office within the ranks of the party. That way we can eliminate the political prostitutes / opportunists from infiltrating our party, and leaking sensitive information to our opponents as has been done in the recent past. These types of folks are not trustworthy. Once you leave / resign from our party we must ensure that the desire to return is almost constitutionally impossible, and unmanageable.
3. We MUST discourage the WATERMELONS and CHAMELEONS from accessing intra-party hierarchical seniority as office-holders within ALL political parties in Sa Lon. By so doing, we create room for new, loyal, and upcoming leaders in the polity of Sa Lon, and this is good for the practice of politics and democracy in our country. Furthermore, if this practice is accepted fresh faces will appear on the political scene in na we Sa Lon - NOT the same old recycled faces. Our politics must seem to be revolving, as opposed to be evolving with the same elements at the forefront. Give all qualified folks a chance at partisan leadership, and nationally, if they so aspire.
Bra John we must be adamant about the maintenance of LOYALTY, and TRUST within party ranks in Sa Lon. We MUST abandon this "here-today-gone-tomorrow-and-back-again" attitude with impunity in our polity.
Our politics must be about infusing new "blood", and new ideas in order for the country to move forward. We should have no time for stale ideas from stale, recycled politricians in the future.
We must ensure that entering the political field in Sa Lon involves SERVICE to the nation and peoples, and NOT self-enrichment through GREED and CORRUPTION at the detriment of the nation.
I agree that the rank and file members of the PMDC should be accepted within the ranks of the SLPP, if they so choose to rejoin the party. But the PMDC "orgas" MUST be scrutinized very throughly, and they should never again be top-ranked kings amongst us in the SLPP. This is as a consequrnce of their COWARDICE, and DISLOYALTY to the GOP (SLPP), in forging an unholy alliance with the APC, RUF, AFRC, UNPP, PDP, WESTSIDE NIGGRAS, and all the odious political entities of northern origin to defeat us during the last elections through malicious propaganda, lies, intimidation, violence, thuggery, and through our own ineptitude, arrogance, and ungratefulness to the magnificient 3, a la Berewa and Kabba.
Yes! we will welcome the rank and file back, but Toegondoe, Charles, Moijue, Bami, Soccoh, David, Femi, Jimmy, etc. [and Enviable], must stay away from us in the SLPP forever. They have slept with the devil, politically, and they stink to high heavens, in my estimation. We can NEVER trust them again.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 17:52:24 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Brother Sengbe:
Thank you very much. You've raised excellent points to help strengthen our party. Even so, I have one question for your kind consideration.
How are genuine SLPPers to respond when non-genuine SLPPers hijack our party and proceed to operate it in utter defiance of our core party principles and only for their own benefit and that of their cronies?
Further, while many opportunists, etc. abandoned our party at a most crucial time and solely because of their insatiable greed for personal benefits, some once-faithful members left us solely out of genuine frustration because of the bad conduct of opportunists-hijackers.
Certainly, we need reliable party people in good times as well as in tough times. We certainly do not need fair weather members at all any time. But if hijackers know that we will stand behind them all the time regardless of their transgressions, then they would permanently control the party and destroy it.
I will be delighted to hear from you again. Thanks. - JL
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 09:40:16 10/18/07 ()
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Bra John, we did NOT fight hard enough to keep the "hijackers" from overwhelming us, the true SLPPers, in the leadership fight during the last SLPP convention in Makeni. We stumbled, and they used their Machiavellian tactics to win the leadership roles in our party. And they have a right to do what they had to do to win, afterall in this game called politics winning is what we aspire to achieve. They "won" while we wuz "robbed".
A point of clarification is needed here, Bra John. If per se, you, Charles, and Maada Bio, had formed a coalition to oppose the hijackers, however unpalatable that suggestion may sound in hindsight, do you really believe Kabba and Co. would have easily defeated y'all as they did? They out-witted, out-spent, and out-maneouvered you guys at the Makeni convention, truth be told. You guys, the true SLPPers, should have had the vision to coalesce your support way before the convention ever took place. But then again the convention was thrust upon us out of the blue. No one but Kabba's inner circle was privy as to when the convention was going to be held and where, until the very last minute, so I am willing to forgive, and forget about the strategic misgivings of progressives like you, and others. I hope we have now learnt our lesson in this regard.
We are now in the process of wiping the slate clean, to start all over again with lessons learnt, and new ideas to be put forth.
Bra John, I am dead serious about amending the SLPP constitution to debar the political prostitutes from ever becoming top-ranked kings in our party again. We have many talented people at home and in the diaspora to transpose the disloyal elements from within the ranks of our party. No longer should we accept, and welcome the "here-today-gone-tomorrow-and-back-again" elements with open arms into our party. We must make them pay a price for their DISLOYALTY, and UNTRUSTWORTHINESS toward our party.
I am not saying they should be entirely ostracized, but they cannot be offered leadership roles within our party as a consequence of their treasonous offences against our party. We must strive to reward those very LOYAL elements in the party.
The forgoing is also recommended for all the other political parties in Sa Lon. We must strive to ELIMINATE "watermelonism", and "chameleonism" in the polity of Sa Lon, so help us God.
The recycling of (old) politicians in that country is the principal reason why the nation's development has been stifled for all these years. We must eliminate this aspect from our polity. Patriotic folks with new ideas, and stamina, are to be encouraged to participate in our polity through partisan legislation. Every interested party member must be encouraged to have his/her own "fifteen minutes of fame".
I know you understand what I am referring to.
I shall return after teaching my P.Chem class, to reply to any response you may post to this article.
Best regards!
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 11:03:54 10/18/07 ()
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Brother Sengbe:
Agreed. We must prevent bad characters and disloyal opportinists from leadership positions in our party.
Makeni was not a genuine convention. So no one truly out-maneuvered us. The victors merely seized power by deliberate, crass illegal means. No matter what, they were hellbent to seize power by whatever means will get the job done. The hijackers cared less and had all the power.
True SLPPers were helpless. Many of our members are poverty stricken. Threats to sack them, marginalize them and harm them otherwise were commonplace. Some threats had been put into effect prior to the conBention.
At Makeni, large numbers of delegates who accepted illicit envelops, I was told by several people, were compelled to drink raw goat blood under oath and threats. When people are superstitious or powerless, oaths are very powerful control devices.
Hence, for us to succeed, we must return SLPP to its core principles and discourage crass opportunists. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Sengbe
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Date Posted: 12:32:41 10/18/07 ()
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Thanks again for the response, Bra John, and illuminating some aspects/practices that debar the proper political implementation of western-style democracy in a third-world country like ours in Sa Lon, namely; ILLITERACY, SUPERSTITION, ENDEMIC POVERTY / POWERLESSNESS, GREED, NEPOTISM, CORRUPTIVE PRACTICES due to our cultural nature, and our innate desire for self aggrandizement.
To this list I would like to add and point out the heterogeneity embedded in our society, and culture, plus the tribalism and regionalism we have all agreed plays a very prominent role in the electioneering decisions made by voters in Sa Lon to elect a candidate or candidates.
We must find ways in implementing policies, and political practices that are democratic, to consider these facets that are both detrimental, as well as beneficial, in our societal cultures.
I do not yet know how this can be done, if it can be done, or what policies / practices must be put in place in order to homogenize the societal heterogeneity that will enable our development as a nation to take place with a minimum amount of outside help, or intervention.
As you very well know, for the past forty-plus years, our "independence" has depended entirely on the generosity of the outside-world.
We manufacture nothing. We can barely feed ourselves. Heck! we cannot even keep our cities clean, and sanitary. What are we really good for as nation of peoples?
Bra John, we have to consider all of these facets and aspects in the vision we have to portray in reinvigorating our partisan efforts, as well as our national developmental efforts.
Backing up to the topic at hand; we must remember that the power-grabbing opportunists who infiltrated our party to cause most of the divisions, and dissentions, are no longer at the helm in our party. It is a new day now, so we must ensure that the next set of top-ranked kings are true-blooded SLPPers no matter how young they might be. We must therefore set rigorous rules to ascertain the quality of this new crop of leaders in our party.
"...Hence, for us to succeed, we must return SLPP to its core principles and discourage crass opportunists..." JEL
That statement of yours is true to the core.
Maybe we should go to the SLPP Forum and continue the exposition of our thoughts about the future of our party. It is a more friendly and appropriate environment to do so. Won't you agree?
Accessing that forum is the problem, I guess. I am on the verge of trying, anyway.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 16:05:56 10/19/07 ()
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dear Brother Sengbe:
Thank you very much. I agree with you. The issues we have been discussing in this forum are the types of issues we ought to thrash out in a secure SLPP Forum.
Of course, a secure SLPP Forum must be governed by written rules and under sound management. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: nico
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Date Posted: 05:09:53 10/17/07 ()
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"Let's face it, the ousted administration was not ideal SLPP at all. Corruption was extensive, incompetence was widespread and leadership was truly poor. Besides, issues of dire importance to a poor struggling populace were not attended to. Makeni was unSLPP completely."
You are right again, the SLPP will find it hard to win an election unless they recognised the fact that people who parted with the rogue kabba regime deserved some respect and as long as the frictions and mud-slanging continues between the SLPPERS and PMDCERS. POLITICAL OPPONENTS WILL ALWAYS BE THE BENEFACTOR.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 18:02:36 10/17/07 ()
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Dear nico:
Thanks very much.
We definitely need to bring back to the SLPP many who left us out of genuine frustration with poor/bad leadership. I have noted also that many people who voted for the PMDC during the first round on August 11, voted for the SLPP during the second round on Sept 8. We need to run the party in the public interest, rather than for the benefit of certain people. Thanks again. -JL
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: kamara
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Date Posted: 18:52:40 10/16/07 ()
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I have no problems with PMDC members coming back to SLPP.Unfortunately they cost SLPP the election because an individual bent on revenge because he did not win the top prize decided to split.. What did PMDC gain for joining APC . 10 seats and four ministerial positions. Big deal. What are the PMDC people fron kenema and pujehun going benefit from.
The party needs to reorganize and strenghthen our strongholds and not take them for granted. We need to fundraise, set up radio stations and papers that get to the average people. SLPP lost this election. We have nobody to blame but ourselves. We need to start with the local elections.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 15:58:24 10/16/07 ()
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Sengbe, The "Judases" and "disloyal cowards" are those who sold the Nationalist SLPP to theft and misrule without the scantiest regard for Sierra Leone or the espoused goals of the party. I left because I love Sierra Leone enough to distance myself from a leadership that was clearly going to self-destruct.
If conceding defeat to the opponent is one of your gripes against me, be rest assured that in the interest of Sierra Leone and NATIONAL UNITY, I will be the first SLPP member to accept defeat after an electoral meltdown. If the SLPP has no guts for that, then I may as well form my own party, serve Sierra Leone in another capacity, or simply graduate and use my academic credentials to make money in Western Ivory Towers. I have NOT changed one bit. We must either bring the party to face reality, or accept being permanent losers. Shame on you for being so unrealistic! Political opponents will surely love average thinkers like you, Sengbe.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Sabanoh
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Date Posted: 15:37:32 10/16/07 ()
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The party does not belong to you. So you cannot tell PMDC members who were once SLPP not to come back. All you have to do is come to the convention and vote who want to take over the party. John Leigh would not be the best choice right now because he has been a member of Kabba's crooked regime from the beginning to the end. The man did not even have the guts to seperate himself from Kabba or steer Kabba to do right. He is one of people(SLPP) who have large investments in Nigeria. Lonta
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 17:54:27 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Sabanoh:
Please get your facts right prior to publishing them.
For your information, I was never a part of Kabbah's "regime from beginning to the end" as you have falsely alleged. At Kabbah's request, I ceased being part of his government on October 1, 2002 - five years ago.
For your information Kabbah never liked good people. He prefers small, weak men who have no choice but to depend on him for their survival and thus who would fear and instictively obey him.
Independent-minded souls like me who can and will stand our ground he never wanted near him.
Not only did he quickly got rid of us, he usually sought to discredit us with false information. In my case, he was not successful as I countered in writing each and every false allegation against me.
And 18 months after separating from the Kabbah regime, I began writing articles in the SL press and in cocorioko about SL issues of importance. I tirelessly sought to steer the government to correct policies. I visted SL often. When I saw no changes, I contested the leadership. They retaliated with a most disreputable conBention.
After the conBention, when I noticed the unattractiveness of the "continuity" theme, I wrote up an alternate program for VP Berewa but he chose to concentrate on the continuity theme instead.
Thus, contrary to your false statement that "The man did not even have the guts to seperate himself from Kabba or steer Kabba to do right", for most of the last administration I was a well-known dissident who tried to help my party and my country but who never sought to split it.
Lastly, also false is your claim that I have large investments in Nigeria. I do not. I wish I were rich. Early in my professional life I went to work in Nigeria because there were no opportunities in SL. I did well there. In fact, always do well outside SL.
Thanks for your interest in my situation. - JL
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 05:00:04 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
"For your information Kabbah never liked good people. He prefers small, weak men who have no choice but to depend on him for their survival and thus who would fear and instictively obey him."
John, your above statement on Kabba's character is absolutely true. In fact this view is widely shared by people, some of them in high places in and outside Sierra Leone. I remember one lawyer in his first govt told me that Kabba do not like people with integrity and independent mind. Another, who was on the 1968 NRC commission who questioned Kabba about his involvement in embezzlement, recently told me that Kabba likes failures. Just fit in to what you said. For me Kabba is very deceitful, vindictive and manipulative. These are serious flaws that can never make anyone a good leader.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 20:10:46 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
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Message:
Mr Leigh,
I stand corrected. I have always looked at you as an agent/spokesperson for Kabba and his failed policies in Sierra Leone. I remember how you vehemently pushed/pursued his policies when you were in Washington. What bothered me is how an educated attorney like could fall for a common class thief like Kabba who had fled our country in the 60's after a warrant had been issued for him. How did you reconcile that aspect of his life? You must have come to a conclusion that it was either true and you don't care or it was not true. There were many things that went wrong in the convention that named Kabba the leader of SLPP. And as I look at it today, I realize that you helped the old regime(kabba,Demby,Jusu, Banya etc) wrestle power from Charles. For me, anything that has the smell of Kabba is damned. Guess, I will be anti-Kabba for life. I respect you for writing a rebuttal rather than cussing so I promise to discard my biased feeling about you and take a fresh look at you. I happened to know some of the people that worked with you at the embassy, I would start there. Thanks.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 17:34:33 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Mr. Sabanoh:
Thanks for promising to deal with me objectively. I am grateful.
For your information, I never agressively pursued what you termed President "Kabbah's policies" in DC. My instructions from President Kabbah were very broad and were to "develop good relations with the US". This I did very politely, quietly and most successfully.
He never told me how or when or if ever to respond to a coup or deal with embassy rouges. I developed those policies on my own and implemented them on my entire initiative.
After the 1996 elections, I spent some time in Freetown and observed that military elements were not too happy giving up power and whenever I would addressed individual ex-NPRC officers flaterrinngly as "Field Marshall" or "General" or "Brigadier" this or that they would be exceedingly jubilant.
So I secretly decided to myself to conceive a counter-coup policy in the event of a coup when I am in DC.
So when I was informed of the violent AFRC coup by an uneducated dunce Foot of State, I was ready with my counter - to the utter shock of many opportunists, SLPPers, governments and diplomats alike!
The aggression you are talking about came in only in my response to the AFRC coup; the violent ARFC/RUF regime; the 1999 trashing of the people of Freetown and the role of foreign inter-medlers (such as Taylor, Ghadaffi; Blaise Campoare and diamond profiteers) in the Sierra Leonean strife. In these matters, I acted more as a violated citizen of Sierra Leone with governmental powers than as an agent for any specific individual or regime.
If I had been respresenting a non-Kabbah government that had been illegally and violently overthrown, I would have struggled likewise to restore our constitution, our parliament and the overthrown government back to their rightful places in our country. Thus the work you observed me do in DC was purely the execution of my civic duty as a nationalist.
As for the SLPMB inquiry involving Kabbah, that was in 1967/68 - way beyond (26 years)the statute of limitation, so to speak, at the time of the SLPP 1995 convention. In the intervening period, Mr. Kabbah had gone to law school, graduated, called to the UK Bar and had serverd the UN for 22 years. No warrant had ever been issued for his arrest as far as I knew.
Thus my view of him in 1994/95 was that he was a different person from his days with the corrupt and incompetent Sir Albert Government and that his SLPMB experience should not be held against him forever. Even so, I never campaigned for, nor supported him at the SLPP 1995 Convention.
I came to his aid only after those who knew him far better than I had selected him as our presidential candidate. Again, I was supporting my party's presidential candidate rather than supporting Kabbah specifically. If another individual had been selected instead of Kabbah, my support would have been no less.
As for Mr. Charles Margai, my view is that he has a very bad attitude: i.e. because his father and uncle had been SLPP leaders, he is automatically entitled to that position whether qualified or not. And if he does not get what he believes is this his entitlement, he will bolt the party and join the competition to ruin us.
Besides, I do not think Mr. Margai has the leadership qualities necessary to govern our country successfully.
Again, I appreciate your willingness to be open-minded as we seek to move forward. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 14:56:45 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-2b8472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.43
Message:
Where did the SLPP go wrong?
Perhaps the toothless chimpanzee fight against corruption & the Makeni ConBention?
http://allafrica.com/stories/200710160621.html
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:08:46 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.243.35.127
Message:
Do you think you have a legitimate right to ban someone from serving their country?
I think if the man have what it takes to be a leader in the SLPP, there's nothing you can do to stop him.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 14:54:34 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
The guy is not an SLPP, those who spoke their minds about the misdirection of the party are the real genuine supporters. Those who kept quiet in the face of injustices and corruptions against the state caused the defeat of the party. They are sycophants and bootlickers who should not be trusted in the SLPP. As far as I am concerned, I make no apology for criticising the kabba regime, i think for the sake of democracy and progress it was necessary for the SLPP to be defeated. This will cause them to look into how they got it wrong and make sure they don't take the country for granted next time. Brother Sengbe you did not help the party when you knew its failings would cost them the election. You should not be talking as if you own the SLPP, people like you are repellent in the SLPP.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: SLPP Teacher
To: All
Date Posted: 11:10:03 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ems0202onesto13.gsu.edu at 131.96.58.146
Message:
Bra Enviable, welcome back, son. The most important thing I have noticed about you is that you are not an opportunist. When the SLPP was in power and giving jobs and money to praise singers, you bitterly opposed the party for alleged corruption. Now you are coming back when the party is OUT of power as opposed to being IN power. Some one with your brilliance could have chosen to sing the praises of the new APC for attention. You have the intellectaul means to do that, but again you chose not to. You are definitely NOT an opportunist.
With your ability to communicate in many parts of Sierra Leone, the party needs your intelligence, and all the skills you bring along. Fullah in Kabala to Temne in Makeini, you can do it.
Welcome home, my son.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Cool Running
To: All
Date Posted: 14:27:24 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.99.234.59
Message:
Well now my pretty, that's the most laudable appraise I've read in a decade! Nothing short of eloquence, particularly when the character in question deserves it all. We'll keep listening ...... and reading ..... and wholeheartedly wish him goodluck. After all, the guys consistency of style makes him unique. If guided with modesty and tolerance, I think he can cruise all the way. Otherwise, people might feel intimidated by his towering intellegence. Guy can't be apologetic for such a god-given talent, but then he simply can't ignore what others feel about him. That's what makes our awareness of society wholesome! Stay cool man!
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Brima kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 10:05:18 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: brimakam@yahoo.com
Entered From: npj-proxy.wlink.com.np at 202.79.54.50
Message:
My brothers,
If the SLPP is indeed ready to restructure or revive itself, then that should be a move in the right direction. However I have some advices for them.
1. They have to really admit to themselves that they failed in their promise to deliver to the people of Sierra Leone. This is not to say that I am castigating them but from a scr1ptural point of view which dictates that only if you realise that you have done wrong will you to be able to rectify your faults. When they lost the last elections, instead of blaming their failure on themselves they were busy crying foul. I was one person who was not happy with that.
2. They should try to weed out all the opportunists who jumped on their bandwagon because they were the patrty in power. Most of those people have no love for the party or what the party stands for. They were only interested in enriching themselves to the detriment of the party forgetting that it is the party that suffers in the end
3. Getting rid of all those old recycled and corrupt politicians. Most of these guys have outlived their usefulness. You should try to get younger people with better ideas. You were relying too much on ideas of guys of the sixties forgotting that those guys belong to a bygone age.
4. Using their MPs to give the APC a run for their money in parliament. The SLPP has never been able to do well in opposition. They should try to change that this time around so that the APC will not take us for the same ride that they the SLPP did. If they can successfully challenge the APC in parliament then people will know that they are here for a change. We dont want those archaic way of campaigning by constantly refering to things that happened during the sixties and seventies when we are dealing with issues that are taking place now.
5. Try to recruit more people and try to get an ideological base. This is the same problem with all the parties in this country. In fact there is no way you can differentiate between the different political parties in this country as they have no ideological base like other countries. e.g In britain you have Labour with their communist style ideas, conservatives with protention of the british way of life and so on and so forth. That it one way to prevent politicians cross carpeting from one party to the other.
6. Giving the party a more national outlook. The present crop of politicians they have in the party have made people to think that it is a mende-man party. No wonder the rest of the country ganged up against them which led to their failure in the just concluded elections. The idea of the founding fathers of the partry was that it should have a national outlook which is far from the case today.
Some of us are really interested to ensure that the SLPP remains a credible party because we dont have a single party that we support. Our aim is to ensure that democracy prevails in our beloved fatherland and that no one (repeat) no one ever take us to the days of military intervention, dictatorship and bad governance. Please SLPP do this for us if even you dont want to do it for yourselves. The country need you at this time as a deterence to the APC behaving the way they did during the seventies and eighties. Lonta.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:35:09 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
First of all mr Kamara, If you forget. Sierra Leone was under an APC dictatorship for over twenty years, Therefore no opposition party could operate effectively without fear of the members being murdered . What happened to UDP?
These election outcomes were based on tribal sentiments. Regardless of what SLPP did , they were not going win in the Temne and Limba areas in the north. The southern vote was split. That is how APC won . It had nothing to do with the competence of APC. Soloman Berewa , a good man was not politically savvy enough to see through the people in the North to know that they were never going vote for a Mende President when they had a formidable TEmne'Limba candidate.Face fact and stop blaming SLpp. Yes , SLPP did not deliver all they promised and there was some corruption but I am not nebulous enough to believe that Ernest Koroma is going to stop corruption and solve the country's problems in 5 years. Sierra Leoneans have to develop their country through private capital not governmental.
We , the loyal SLPP will stay to reform the party. Unfotunately, We were not in Sierra Leone. We cannot be allowed to be fooled by by impostors and opportunists like Kabba.
The nomination of candidates should done delegates. It should be voted by members of the party. This will yield truly democratic candidate. If this done in 2006, SLpp would have had a better candidate .
Do not worry SLPP will be a credible party. All we want is for APC to preserve our democracy.
IF I look at the APC cabinet, it is a Northern party not very inclusive at all . My family is from the North and were original founders of SLPp and are very comfortable in the party and will never leave for anywhere else. We are in SLPp because of its fairly democratic history as compared to dictatorial APC\.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH!!!
To: All
Date Posted: 19:25:13 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-49-205-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.49.205.105
Message:
"IF I look at the APC cabinet,
it is a Northern party not very
inclusive at all."
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 05:46:36 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-172-31-93.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.172.31.93
Message:
I know you APC fanatics cannot face the truth because of your undemocratic nation. I know you are used to thuggery and GBoSe GBose when they question your party and leader. Continue with your BLah BLah Blah. Sierra Leone has changed.
SLPP had a more nationaly inclusive cabinet by far.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 13:22:18 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
Message:
I will have to agree for once.Ambassador in my book is a diehard SLPP and most definately a nationlist.
Lets go Ambassador.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:20:39 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Dear Mr. FODAY MANSARAY:
Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: I love my clitoris
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 08:52:17 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
I have up until now resisted chiming in on the FMG debate. Since there hasn't been much other interesting discussion on the forum, I decided to give my own take on the topic. My arguement is purely sexual. I am pro-clitoris because it is a sexual organ that offers pleasure to women when left intact. I believe sex is a gift from God for married couples. As such, His desire is that we derive pleasure from sex. I believe His intent is for us to derive ultimate pleasure in our married relationships. In reading the posts from this forum, there are those who either don't know or don't want to acknowledge the sensitivity of the clitoris and it's importance in sexual stimulation. Since you can have an orgasim just from stimulating the clitoris, it's importance can not be minimized. I don't oppose the practice of FGM because I think it's barbaric, I don't like it because women deserve to experience all of the sexual pleasures their bodies were designed to enjoy. I have included a link about the clitoris that gives a detailed explanation about the clitoris in all its glory.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 11:57:15 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.142
Message:
Erica, you have disappointed me with your conservative spin on the clitoris. What d'ya mean by "I am pro-clitoris because it is a sexual organ that offers pleasure to women when left intact. I believe sex is a gift from God for married couples"?
Titi nor make ar laff! You, I and the entire sexual world knows that unmarried people are also entitled to the joys and yelps of sex and we all celebrate La Clitora! How Ba You Wan Greedy We?
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 16:17:34 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
First of all, based on my own beliefs (which are biblical) I don't believe sex is an entitlement for unmarried people. With that said, I have experienced sex outside of marriage and I would say to any girl or woman contemplating doing the same to wait until marriage. The act of sex alone is not the same for men and women. I know very few women who derive pleasure from sex just for the sake of having it. True sexual pleasure for women comes from the intimate relationship we experience with our husbands. It's about the love, security, acceptance, and comfort we feel when you are in our mens' arms. If you read Lady J's post about the other ways to achieve sexual pleasure, a man who you are only casually involved with is not going to put that much time and energy into satisfying you. Your husband who loves and cares for you and genuinely wants lovemaking to be mutually satisfying will find out how to make things pleasurable for you both. Even to have the level of comfort needed to address the issues Lady J raised would require a very commited relationship. This is just my own opinion.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 14:01:19 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.82.23.33
Message:
Erica,
Thanks for a wonderful piece. As we continue the process of eradicating this ancient tradition, your above piece will someday become a selling point on why the clitoris should be left alone. Thanks a bunch. ….. (Transaction Completed).
I dedicate the rest of my response to those who had no say in the process of losing their clitoris.
“Many of the initiatees do not have a say in the process and are initiated without consent. All I am saying is that there should be some sort of INFORMED CONSENT”. (M. Alieu Iscandari Esq) Thanks brother ...
Alieu, until we get to that particular point of our journey, education is the key, just like Londoner responded to Erica’s piece ….….
We have too many initiatees who have given up on sexual pleasure just because their clitoris was taken away ….
We have to teach these young women how to make do without half of their external genitalia, and not blame their boyfriends/husbands for leaving them just because they have no clit …… (The primary genitalia or external genitalia: in males the penis and scrotum, in females the clitoris and vulva.)
Until we accomplish total eradication of this practice, let’s make sure we utilize our erogenous zones to the fullest, while we fight to protect those behind us ……
The other, hidden sex organs are referred to as the secondary genitalia or internal genitalia. (A more ambiguously defined term is erogenous zone, subjectively, any portion of the body that when stimulated produces erotic sensation.)
The vagina is a muscular, highly expandable, tubular cavity leading from the vestibule to the uterus. The vagina is the structure penetrated during vaginal intercourse, and during vaginal intercourse, contact with this structure provides sexual pleasure in some women.
The Bartholin’s glands are two small, round structures, one on either side of the vaginal opening. These glands secrete a mucus-like fluid during sexual arousal, providing vaginal lubrication.
The Grafenberg spot, or G-spot, is a small area (about 1 to 2 cm) on the front wall of the vagina (closest to the bladder and urethra), about halfway between the pelvic bone and the cervix, that is especially sensitive to sexual stimulation in some women and may be the source of a small amount of fluid ejaculated at orgasm.
The cervix (the lower part of the uterus that protrudes into the vaginal canal) During vaginal intercourse, contact with this structure may provide sexual pleasure in some women.
There are more ways to arouse pleasure without touching each other.... CREATIVITY is the key.
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 15:51:39 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Lady J,
Where were you when I started this debate? By the way nice piece. I wish to add one thing regarding the G-spot. If properly stimulated, the G-spot produces the highest, most sensational feeling of organism a woman ever gets. It does not happen every time with women that have their clits intact and I believe the G-spot is completely dead in those of us that are victims of FGM. By the way for the guys, there is an equivalent area called the A-spot (around the prostate), if accurately activated, produces the most intense and enjoyable organism ever.
It is amazing that Alieu dismissed my initial take on this issue claiming that my choice of words dragged the discussion into the gutter. Now after turning around 180 degrees, he is involved full fledge in an FGM debate. I wonder if this is a case of flip-flopping. If it is, be aware that flip-flopping is not conducive to a political career (or a politician wannabe).
Thanks to all involved in pushiong this issue of FGM in the fore front of debates on this forum. I will be taking my case to Freetown this December. I hope to use some of these debate exchanges as references for making my case. Those of you who will be in town, listen up whilst you are there. I surely will publicise the debate via TV and radio in addition to my presentation to government officials and medical practitioners. I will fully fund my endeavor with my personal money.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: fact
To: All
Date Posted: 06:47:29 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
''to all involved in pushiong this issue of FGM in the fore front of debates on this forum. I will be taking my case to Freetown this December. I hope to use some of these debate exchanges as references for making my case. Those of you who will be in town, listen up whilst you are there. I surely will publicise the debate via TV and radio in addition to my presentation to government officials and medical practitioners. I will fully fund my endeavor with my personal money."
You will need a couple of very strong bodyguards with this kind of project in Sierra Leone. Good luck.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 17:17:14 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-225-135-132.mia.bellsouth.net at 74.225.135.132
Message:
Mbalu
My dear sister ... I was here all along waiting for you to take a deep breath before stepping in.
Do not blame Alieu for dismissing your initial take .... I am not going to delve into it now ... It's taken the right turn (180) ....
This is where we are suppose to be .... You had no say in what happened to you, I hope you forgive those who did it to you, and make the best out of what's left.... You are a brilliant woman, sex is not just physical .... I hope your next partner will be able to appreciate what you have to offer.
Good luck my dear
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 16:28:29 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
Mbalu,
Good luck in what you are trying to do. You are right, you did catch hell when you first raised the issue on this forum. Maybe you caused the men to research the issue and some have come to realize that the clitoris is a sex organ. Just be encouraged and know that you will meet someone who will be understanding and concerned about your sexual needs. In Christianity, we are often reminded that the things we go through in life are not for us but for the benefit of others. If your efforts will help other girls and women not to experience what you have gone through; then hopefully this all will not have been in vain. When I was in Pakistan last year, one of the projects we visited used interactive theater as a way to address serious community issues. The outreach workers were the main characters but they would call on volunteers from the community to play roles. It was a form of improv. We were in a very remote community, just under the stars with the whole village gathered. The two issues which were addressed in the play were domestic violence and education for girls. It was very powerful because it allowed the community an opportunity to give input on how to address both of these community issues.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: NAR U SABI
To: All
Date Posted: 14:50:49 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-63-219.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.63.219
Message:
Lady J, You say there are more ways to arouse pleasure without touching each other ....CREATIVITY is the key
HOW can this be done?
NAR U SABI
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 15:08:26 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.82.23.33
Message:
NAR U SABI,
U sef U fen plaba oh .... Dee place go wahm for U ...
Have you ever allowed a woman to look deep into your eyes .... while you fantasize on what you want to do to her ..... and in that moment .... she lets her lips part slowly, and a twinkle appears in that beautiful eyes of hers .... as she lifts her slender fingers pretending to reach for your ...... ..
Ohhhh .... Bettttteeeehhhh ....
Enjoy and have a nice
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: LJS
To: All
Date Posted: 15:54:35 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
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Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: AristoCat
To: All
Date Posted: 17:21:31 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Meeeeeooowww
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Youthman
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:06 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: pablo.augustus@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 216.70.131.210
Message:
Erica,
can you please point me in the direction of previous discussions about FGM on this forum especially topics pertaining to the practice in Sierra leone? Thanks for your help and the wonderful point you pointed out.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 14:16:17 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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There is just a little bit of the discussion remaining from 10/14/07 on Alieu:FGM. Most of the recent talk has not been achived yet. I can't remember the month it all got started but if you scroll through the achives of late Sept/early October you'll find some discussion there too. The discussion all got started because one sister wrote on the forum that she believed her low sex drive was because she had been circumcised. Responses have run the gamut and when I thought the topic was dead, somehow it came back to life. It's been a really good discussion.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 09:35:22 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
Erica, thanks for a frank and informative contribution. Education! Education! Education is the watchword! You have my deepest respect!
Subject: TAKING A LOOK AT THE QUEEN
From: Talk True
To: All
Date Posted: 07:26:48 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: Truetalk@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 202.70.85.3
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Over the past few days, there has been a heated debate over some of our african practices that is ingrained in our culture most especially female circumcision. Some forumites have been lambasting the practice because according to some of them it is wrong and (quoting Wole Soyinka)a savage custom, barbaric and archaic or you name it. From my own point of view, most of them are swayed by western propaganda that normally portrays everything african as bad. I therefore want us to look at one od the oldest and most respected customs today in the world i.e the monarchy as practiced in England. Though I know that they it is quite different from the debate that has been raging on, yet it is a custom and traditional practice of one of the so-called bastions of democracy, Great Britain.
Sierra Leoneans living in England will not dare utter any opposition to that practice though it is one of the most undemocratic practice that is being perpetrated today in this day and age. If you go back to history, you will see the amount of blood spilled and lives that were taken to ensure that the present royal family maintain their present position. In fact the ancestor of the present royal family were local brigands and despots who killed as many people as possible to maintain their holld over their fellow men. Though at present they will want us to believe that she is just a ceremonial Head of State yet any student of history will telll you that it is a lie. Nothing in England becomes law without the signature of the queen. She is the De Juror and De Facto head of England. She nominates the Prime Minister, who as we all know is not elected by the British people but the leader of the party with the highest majority in Parliament. Everybody in England swears allegiance to her and not to the Prime Minister including the Armed Forces. She is treated as if she is a minor God. She belongs to the upper class that control 80% of the wealth of the british people. Her present wealth runs into billion of pounds. She has so many privileges and pays very little tax on her astronomical wealth. She is head and shoulders in class above the average british guy in the streets though her wealth was built on the sweat of these same British paople. This practice is very, very (repeat) very undemocratic, yet you have these same people telling us about democracy and whatever they say we swallow it whole heartedly.
When can we as africans realise that the white man is just here to make us look uncivilised and uncultured. Why do we have to think that the western world have the supreme right to determine what is good for us and what isn't good for us. I believe that every country, race or group has things that distinguishes it from the rest of the world. The sooner we learn to hold these things dear to ourselves as the british revere their queen, the better for us.
Subject: Re: TAKING A LOOK AT THE QUEEN
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 00:15:17 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
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When can we as africans realise that the white man is just here to make us look uncivilised and uncultured. --------------------------------------------------
We africans should soon realise that its about time that we stop blaming the "white man" for our problems and start looking at ourselves. When we behave "Uncivilized and Uncultured" and we get called on it, then we want to blame someone else and the problems keep perpetuating.
We are the PROBLEM and we must fix us.
Subject: Re: TAKING A LOOK AT THE QUEEN
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 08:31:55 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Talk True,
I heard that there is a royal Bondo in Britain. Is it true? So, is the queen a Shayma? If she is, I will surely endorse the practice in our country. Can you please find out? Pretty please?
Subject: Re: TAKING A LOOK AT THE QUEEN
From: lef joke
To: All
Date Posted: 08:42:30 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: npj-proxy.wlink.com.np at 202.79.54.50
Message:
Nor worry but dat. Na senior Gborka
Subject: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 06:46:43 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: dyn003334-hs01.accord-ne.org at 156.111.18.236
Message:
We come from Allah and to Him is our return.
May Allah forgive her mistakes and keep us on the right path.
Subject: Re: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: velma taylor
To: All
Date Posted: 12:38:24 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: vellosticss@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
Alimamy,
where u dae?
Subject: Re: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 15:23:57 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 134.74.170.97
Message:
Ar Dae Fouta
Subject: Re: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 08:18:18 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.183
Message:
May the Almighty Allah have mercy on her soul. She is a great loss to the Muslim Umma generally and a great loss indeed to the Islamic society of Sierra Leone. May her numerous Pilgimages to Meccah be, in the Day of Judgement, a salvaging testimony of her faith and help her gain the reward of Al-Janna.
Subject: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 03:30:47 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 251-66-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.66.251
Message:
The wolves are at it again to malign, kill and destroy Miss Alice Kamara who has said no to bribery and the issuance of Sierra Leonean passport to racketeeers.
Because Alice Kamara is not compromising with the crooks, they have organised a sit down strike to force the honest woman relinquish her post. The new APC must not allow these diabolical plot to get rid of the immigration boss!
We know that our passport has been give to forein=gners and crooks at the immigration office will issue it to any K=Jack or Jill.
We say no to the evil plan to get rid of Miss Kamara. Like Christian Thorpe, she is among the few Sierra Leoneans with respect and honesty.
Miss Kamara we will defend your honesty and we will be looking what the new APC will do to retain you in that important position.
Subject: Re: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 20:17:35 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
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Message:
Whats so evil in replacing a civil servant?
Subject: Re: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 02:15:38 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 251-66-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.66.251
Message:
When it is done with a vendetta!!!
Subject: Re: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:39:03 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.243.134.136
Message:
I have very little knowledge of this lady, but if she's being the boss all this while then I'm in support of you 100%.
The reason for my support is that, we have a very poor record on immigration fraud but recently things are improving. One clear evidence is that, Nigerians who obtained our passports during the war and used them to sought asylum in Britain were refused after their passports expired. I know a few who were deported because they were caught.
I discovered recently that our immigration controls have being tight. So this could only be as a result of good leadership, so yes my opinion is Alice Kamara should stay.
Subject: Re: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 08:26:15 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.142
Message:
Do you have a vested interest in keeping Alice Kamara in that position? Did she get her job through political patronage? Have you in any way benefitted from Miss Kamara's position? Answer these questions before we take up her case.
Subject: Re: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 15:37:05 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: mannahs@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: 251-66-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.66.251
Message:
Do you have a vested interest in keeping Alice Kamara in that position?
Ans: Absolutely! As a patriotic Sierra Leonean who does not belong to any groups, I find Miss Kamara's penchannt for honesty unparrellled as compare to her compatriots.
Did she get her job through political patronage?
That question is for those in the corridor of power.
Have you in any way benefitted from Miss Kamara's position?
My desire to achieve greater accomplishment will seek to falter, if I live in telling tale. I have known or met with Miss Kammara. I know the menmtality of our folks, when they do not have the grapes, they say its sour.
I hope my anwsers will tighten your mental facuilty to salute those who deserve honour. If Kabbah allowed corruption to plague Sierra Leone, he did appoint credible and honest Sierra Leoneans before he bowed power. I have been a strong critic of Kabbah, but I doff my hat to him for creating credible institutions to oush Sierra Leone forward.
Answer these questions before we take up her case.
Subject: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Madsan
To: All
Date Posted: 03:17:59 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: med-hopeclinic@optonline.net
Entered From: ool-4355b1b5.dyn.optonline.net at 67.85.177.181
Message:
My deepest sympathy to all the Rahman,Adams and Carew family on the death of a great woman. May her soul rest in peace. Ameen.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Halida Rahman
To: All
Date Posted: 06:27:20 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: halidauk@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac0a1cc.bb.sky.com at 90.192.161.204
Message:
Thank you so much to all that have taken their time to mourn with us in this sad times. In deed our mother was an incredible woman that will be greatly missed by all of us.
Thank you for all your kind words....it means more than you can imagine.
Lots of Love
Halida
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Hawa Mansaray
To: All
Date Posted: 05:14:14 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: talk2keita@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 194.19.96.20
Message:
Is an other blow to the nation. A stronge and engertic woman that other women can learn from has gone.I say to the family to have courage especailly to Isha. Gone but not frogotten .
From a friend.
MAY HER SOUL REST IN PERFECT PEACE.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Miriam Gidiglo
To: All
Date Posted: 04:12:54 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: jesuviva@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 194.221.74.26
Message:
Dear Isha
words cannot express how sorry I am to hear of the passing away of your mother.
My deep felt condolences. We all at Healthcare Commission miss you and your ever smiling face, and your calm temperament
I wish you strength as such a difficult time and hope that you will be surround by love and support
Love & hug
Miriam Gidiglo
Healthcare Commission
London
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Miriam Gidiglo (Makeba)
To: All
Date Posted: 07:08:39 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: jesuviva@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 194.221.74.26
Message:
PS: Sir Ian says to convey his condolences and regards as well
Regards
miriam
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 21:12:29 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
Message:
I extend my heart felt sympathy and condolences to her family.
May the Almighty Allah grant her entry into his "Jana".
YAAA-AYYATUHAN-NAFSUL-MUTMA-INNAH
IRJI-III ILAA RABBIKI RAA ZIYATAM-
MARZIYYAH
FADKHULII FII IBAADII
WADKHULII JANNATII. AMIN.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: amara thomas
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:30 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ibknorthampton@yahoo.co..uki
Entered From: at 78.145.235.50
Message:
iw extend my heart sympathy to rahman family haja a good woman to me and mum may her soul rest in peacefrom the thomas family at 26 kissy road
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 06:39:13 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
Our sympathies at Cocorioko to all members of the family. May her soul rest in peace.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Adiatu Savage
To: All
Date Posted: 05:58:13 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: adia.savage@slam.nhs.uk
Entered From: inetgw-65-sec.nhs.uk at 194.176.105.46
Message:
"we are confident, i say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the lord".
Our sympathies to all members of the family at home and abroad. May her soul rest in perfect peace.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Miriam Gidiglo
To: All
Date Posted: 04:14:42 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: jesuviva@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 194.221.74.26
Message:
Dear Isha
words cannot express how sorry I am to hear of the passing away of your mother.
My deep felt condolences. We all miss you and your ever smiling face, and your calm temperament
I wish you strength as such a difficult time and hope that you will be surround by love and support
Love & hug
Miriam
Healthcare Commission
London
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Liko
To: All
Date Posted: 06:46:30 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: f298781.ga.unc.edu at 152.4.31.217
Message:
Indeed, she was a great woman. I knew the family personally and one of his sons was my personal friend. We were in the same class at Albert Academy. May her sould rest in perfect peace.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Gibs
To: All
Date Posted: 11:32:45 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Yes, I went to school with one of her sons at AA too.I understand he is now a lawyer. May her soul rest in peace.
Subject: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Salone Blondy
To: All
Date Posted: 22:09:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: abc1122@gmail.com
Entered From: at 70.229.141.151
Message:
I am tired of Sierra Leoneans in this forum writing a litany of policies and advice columns for President Koroma. What a poor, fragile nation like Sierra Leone needs is a powerful, intelligent and visionary leader like the great Mustafa Kemal Ataturk of Turkey.
Wait, before all you internet revolutionaries get riled up and write (I mean type) your cassava leaf infused comments, give me a minute to explain the need for our own great "Ataturk."
A great leader should not be known for his reconciliatory speeches and appeasing gestures to opponents and detractors, no, a great leader will only be acknowledge and appreciated for taking decisive actions for the benefits of his nation; even if these actions are unpopular with half the population. Ataturk did not gain heroic statue and his pictures on the wall in every Turkish household by being a "soft", gentle business man; He is honored because of his vision and subsequent reforms that have moved Turkey (formerly the Ottoman Empire) from one of the least advance of nations, to a now powerful nation that the U.S. (Bush Administration) is currently begging to appease (for the Armenian Genocide Vote).
Ataturk had a vision to improve Turkey from a Muslim state to a Western style nation. He reformed the educational system from a religious base system to model European system. He also changed the style of Turkish dressing for men and women, and he granted equality for men and women (a revolutionary idea at that time, that is still considered revolutionary in the Muslim world today). These reforms were not always popular, but Ataturk articulated his vision to the people, and the people believe in him.
Sierra Leone is too wealthy, and its people are too intelligent to continue to be humiliated in every ranking of world development. The nation needs a leader who has the vision (the plan shall follow later) to lead the nation in attaining a modern and prideful Sierra Leone. We need a leader that is willing to take risks, (why not, the country is already on the bottom) be decisive, and strong enough not to be swayed by the interests of any political party, Ngo’s, or International Organizations. Sierra Leone needs its own Ataturk. Who will it be?
Subject: Re: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 08:55:39 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.183
Message:
It's just not feasible in our times. Firstly, the politics of intervention is becoming an outright permissible concept for the whole of Africa. The AU is working towards that. Secondly, nobody in his right mind would wish for another round of blood spilling in Sierra Leone. Those who lost their loved ones know exactly what I'm talking about. Thirdly, there are no guarantees that the eventual outcome would be just as Ataturk's case. People like Charles Taylor had unlimited ambitions to conquer the whole of West Africa while Gaddafi was backing him. Thing is, he failed in the end. Fourthly, our modern age just couldn't stand for such people. The whole world might be silent for a while, but they just can't stand idly by while people are being butchered. The vibrant media of today will help to hit the world's conscience into action.
There could be more reasons to support my disagreement. But I guess those four would surfice.
Subject: Re: Where is our Great Leader?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 03:49:00 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
Saloneboy: According to your statement above, I will mark former president kabba 0 out of 10. I mean it.
Subject: Re: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 22:56:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-178-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.178.188
Message:
Ataturk that genocidal maniac? You must be outta your plassasdamned mind! Ataturk engineered some cosmetic reforms in Turkey and spun those modest changes into a fulsome PR campaign with him in the starring role of Omnimodernizer and ..hehehe..Founder of Turkey. He had such a formidable personality cult that six decades after his death, they still have soldiers goose-stepping outside his mausoleum. The greatest atrocity he inflicted however is to undermine democracy in Turkey by giving effective control of the country to the military. This is one of the reasons why Turkey is still the backward boondocks of Europe.
If you want to give a strongman example, how about Lee Kuan Yew of Slngapore who transformed that city state into one of the largest and most vibrant economies in the world today? Infact Singapore just got delivery of the first A380 today, the world's largest and most luxurious plane.
Subject: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Salone Blondy
To: All
Date Posted: 22:08:14 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: abc1122@gmail.com
Entered From: at 70.229.141.151
Message:
leader like the great Mustafa Kemal Ataturk of Turkey.
Wait, before all you internet revolutionaries get riled up and write (I mean type) your cassava leaf infused I am tired of Sierra Leoneans in this forum writing a litany of policies and advice columns for President Koroma. What a poor, fragile nation like Sierra Leone needs is a powerful, intelligent and visionary comments, give me a minute to explain the need for our own great "Ataturk."
A great leader should not be known for his reconciliatory speeches and appeasing gestures to opponents and detractors, no, a great leader will only be acknowledge and appreciated for taking decisive actions for the benefits of his nation; even if these actions are unpopular with half the population. Ataturk did not gain heroic statue and his pictures on the wall in every Turkish household by being a "soft", gentle business man; He is honored because of his vision and subsequent reforms that have moved Turkey (formerly the Ottoman Empire) from one of the least advance of nations, to a now powerful nation that the U.S. (Bush Administration) is currently begging to appease (for the Armenian Genocide Vote).
Ataturk had a vision to improve Turkey from a Muslim state to a Western style nation. He reformed the educational system from a religious base system to model European system. He also changed the style of Turkish dressing for men and women, and he granted equality for men and women (a revolutionary idea at that time, that is still considered revolutionary in the Muslim world today). These reforms were not always popular, but Ataturk articulated his vision to the people, and the people believe in him.
Sierra Leone is too wealthy, and its people are too intelligent to continue to be humiliated in every ranking of world development. The nation needs a leader who has the vision (the plan shall follow later) to lead the nation in attaining a modern and prideful Sierra Leone. We need a leader that is willing to take risks, (why not, the country is already on the bottom) be decisive, and strong enough not to be swayed by the interests of any political party, Ngo’s, or International Organizations. Sierra Leone needs its own Ataturk. Who will it be?
Subject: Best deals for your holiday travel
From: Bhaskar
To: All
Date Posted: 21:50:58 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: bhaskarsmail@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe00195b4bf214-cm001a667071fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com at 99.227.232.7
Message:
Hey guys,
check this URL.
http://www.visitsierraleone.org/travelagencies.asp
Of these, I can strongly suggest Lamar travel, Lion travel and Karl travel.. others the risk is yours.. I have no personal motive with any of them, and if any of you need any help from these three you can contact me, I shall help FREE OF COST to organise a happy trip for you... also I can give you tips on what you need to carry for your christmas, for your baby (toddler) if you are travelling with etc.. ALL JUST COZ I LOVE SALONE.. you can write to me bhaskarsmail@yahoo.com
Subject: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 21:28:11 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
Entered From: at 208.115.235.86
Message:
For the benefit of those who don't know my friend and brother, Palo
Conteh, he is the finest Military Police . Kawuta Dumbuya was the first
military Police that became a lawyer .Palo is the second.He is a great
military strategist and a lawyer. He is very unassuming and dedicated
to the promotion of the efforts to rebuild our military to its glorious
past. .
His appointment by his Excellency is the well -awaited boost
our men and women in uniform needed to join our nation building
efforts.
Please join me in sending congratulations to Retired Major Palo Conteh,
wishing him all the best in his new appointment.
Say Amen.
Subject: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH IS APPOINTMENT GOOD?
From: Tamba Moiwo
To: All
Date Posted: 10:13:29 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gateway-303.energis.gsi.gov.uk at 62.25.109.196
Message:
"He is very unassuming and dedicated
to the promotion of the efforts to rebuild our military to its glorious
past. ."
Sir,your man maybe all of the above,but I have trepidations that he might be on a mission to revenge for the overthrow of his late Uncle (JS Momoh).
The question that naturally comes to mind is was Palo pushed or did he walk?If he was pushed and those who did the 'pushing'are still in the army,do they stand a danger of being victimised?Either way,my gut reaction to this appointment is to appease the Binkolo faction of the APC.
Salone don dae gradually wake up to the BINKOLO MAFIA- Ernest Koroma,Serry Kamal and IB Kargbo
Tamba
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH IS APPOINTMENT GOOD?
From: fact
To: All
Date Posted: 11:34:35 10/18/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
serry kamal is NOT from Binkolo.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH IS APPOINTMENT GOOD?
From: TAMBA MOIWO
To: All
Date Posted: 04:27:32 10/19/07 ()
Email Address: moiwo@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: gateway-303.energis.gsi.gov.uk at 62.25.109.196
Message:
OK ITS THE BOMBALI MAFIA......
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 05:52:48 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
We need people like Foday Mansaray to be appointed as Bank Governor. What do you think?
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: Governator
To: All
Date Posted: 18:50:49 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-140-34-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.34.194
Message:
I don't know much about Foday Mansaray,my only contact with him is in this forum.If you think Foday is fit to be Governor,can you post his crdentials so that we can objectively evaluate him.
Bank Governor is not an easy job,the candidate should be well vast in Economics,International Finance and International Relations.The minimum qualification in my estimation should be a PhD in Economics.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: Lawrence Billgreyhood.
To: All
Date Posted: 18:02:05 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: caintdef.sbc.com at 144.160.130.16
Message:
Foday Mansaray for Bank Governor? God forbid! We don’t want him there. The guy is not competent enough. Let him just forget about that. I know he is the one posting these “CRAPS” The leader is very clever, putting the right people in the right places. Way to Go E.B.K don’t let these “clowns in the Diaspora” fool you. They are very riotous. We need peaceful people to represent the A.P.C. Long Live E.B.K, Long Live Sierra Leone. To all you disgruntled Clowns in the Diaspora, BABU EYE OH!!!!!!! AH GO DIE WITH LAUGH. DEN DON BROKE!. AH!! AH!!! AH!!! AH. ME CHEST GO BUSS.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: NAR U SABI
To: All
Date Posted: 05:08:12 10/17/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-57-158.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.57.158
Message:
NOR DIE WIT LAF YATE O, wait fos befoe u die ar tink say na im go be the deputy
NAR U SABI
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: Manso Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 04:02:19 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
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A point of correction. Lt. Col.(Rtd) Kawuta Dumbuya (RTP) was the first military officer to become a lawyer.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: NAR U SABI
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Date Posted: 07:21:07 10/16/07 ()
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NAR U SABI. NOR TO SO THE CEO SAY?
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:30:01 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
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I think Foday Mansaray could be a fine Bank Governor. What about Alex Mansaray to represent us at the U.N.? and Bubu Kamara, though he was SLPP to be appointed as chairman of Lotto.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: NAR U SABI
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Date Posted: 08:50:04 10/16/07 ()
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THE MANSARAY`S are they related, just curious.
NAR U SABI
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:53:29 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
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No. They are not related. They are just friends. They are part of Cocorioko. Bubu Kamara is going back to his base,APC. He regretted contesting under the banner of the APC in Koya. I hope Foday and Alex will accept him.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: awoko
To: All
Date Posted: 10:44:56 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: malik @ yahoo.com
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Message:
WE WON BUBU LEH E COMOT BEHIN SLPP. E NOR DO AM, BUT DE MAN DEA ALL SIE. E GO CAM BAK EN DO E SEN KUPOR BIZZNESS.
Subject: BUBU KAMARA welcome home!
From: KOYA CHIEFDOM
To: All
Date Posted: 11:43:56 10/16/07 ()
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Bubu did not leave APC, APC left Bubu for the son of SAT Koroma. Abu Koroma is another opportunist cabdriver that APC wrongly and illegitimately imposed on the people of Koya. Bubu was the right candidate for APC, but he did not stand a chance because of the influence of SAT KOROMA. The people of Koya hate/detest SAT and his family. The father ruined our chiefdom, now the son is back to continue the damage. THE KOYA SEAT WILL BE HOTLY CONTESTED IN THE NEXT ELECTION.
WELCOME HOME, BROTHER BUBU, YOU WERE APC WHEN APC WAS NOT FASHIONABLE.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:56:43 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
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My mistake. Bubu Kamara contested under the banner of the SLPP
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 11:52:50 10/16/07 ()
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John, no need to apologize, you are on the right track. Bubu went to SLPP because APC decided to give the symbol to ABU, the son of the ruthless SAT KOROMA the terrorize the koya people. BUBU deserves any appointment by the APC government.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: foday mansaray
To: All
Date Posted: 00:39:30 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: fmansaray@aol.com
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Message:
For the record.Mr Bubu is my brother. I contributed to his campaign and wish him Success with SLPP.I have talked things out with my Mr.Bubu and we are back in bussiness.Bubu is a bussiness man and a true sierra leonean.Myself,Alex or any APC Loyalist does not have any vandatta against Bubu for coming back to his base.Bubu was already gone months before the nomination of Abu SAT. Mr Bubu contested the SLPP Chairmanship and lost in NJ.This is how much he was involved with the SLPP.Bubu is still a power house in KOYA.He needs to support the parliamentarians and chief to improve the life of the people of KOYA district.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 18:21:17 10/17/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
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Message:
Bubu K, take courage.
Subject: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 21:26:18 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
Entered From: at 208.115.235.86
Message:
For the benefit of those who don't know my friend and brother, Palo
Conteh, he is the finest Military Police . Kawuta Dumbuya was the first
military Police that became a lawyer .Palo is the second.He is a great
military strategist and a lawyer. He is very unassuming and dedicated
to the promotion of the efforts to rebuild our military to its glorious
past. .
His appointment by his Excellency is the well -awaited boost
our men and women in uniform needed to join our nation building
efforts.
Please join me in sending congratulation to Retired Major Palo wishing
him all the best in his new appointment.
Say Amen.
Subject: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 18:35:02 10/15/07 ()
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I have a whole flock of relatives who are Bondo initiates and I deeply respect the culture. I have also dated lots of FGM-ed gals in my life and I have dated just as many intact women too. With all due respect to my wonderful Bondorinas here and back home, I want to categorically declare that the uncircumcised sisters are better and more passionate lovers, who flow just so effortlessly with the groove. It just takes too much work with the FGMs. The uncut sisters here and in Sierra Leone simply rock! They're simply the best!
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 21:15:43 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Hahahaha..............
You better go take some lessons in S.x education. You fellas always forget that women are not built like men. For us men, it is "My eyes See" "I WANT" " I DO IT" "I AM SATISFIED" Next?........
Many ways to make a lady indulge in satisfaction which doesn't even require to go near FG.
You like the cheap option, and not mastery of the game.
Brothels are full with ready and willing anytime of the day.
It takes a whole process to put a woman in the right mood. Make your women fantasize throughout the whole day and you'll be king.
Don't come and talk about Circumcised/Not-Circumcised.
Put your personal effort / mastery to make the woman you love get satisfied.
Blah blah blah..............
Have you seen many sexual therapists back home? Well wake up Bro. There are so...... many in the west. If they're so O.K., why is it that they have so many Sex therapists?
Blah blah blah..................
Come to think about it, you're actually demeaning a whole populace.
What is the population of SL?
What are the largest tribes in SL?
What tribes practice FemExcision (as one forumite wrote)?
Go back to your roots, try and trace why the practice started and for what reason.
Different cultures, different attitudes of women towards S**.
Even in SL. Women in Freetown are more open towards encounters than in the provinces. In the villages, you sleep with anyone, everyone knows the next day. So the women are bound to guard their reputation.
In Freetown no one cares, thats the way of life.
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 22:35:00 10/15/07 ()
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Babbob, are U seriously trying to teach me about foreplay? That's a hoot, boy. Most guys I have talked to honestly believe that the Nonbondoristas are easier to paddle with, than the Bondorinas. Conduct an informal survey and see for yourself! It has nothing to do with the tribe or culture either. Even within the same tribe, the non-FGMers friskily parade around town with smiling hubbys/mates while the FGMers and their mates usually have forlorn, frustrated expressions.
You wrote: "Women in Freetown are more open towards encounters than in the provinces. In the villages, you sleep with anyone, everyone knows the next day. So the women are bound to guard their reputation.
In Freetown no one cares, thats the way of life."
I am sure the ladies in Freetown will thank U for trashing their reputation. Are U sure those villages and provinces that you visited were in Salone? You could have mistaken Liberia for Salone. My personal experience is that villager or city roller, they all frolic when you turn off the light.
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 16:10:01 10/16/07 ()
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Mr. Somtin Butu,
You are right and the other guy must be a virgin or an okobo that is just plainly telling a lie. You know back home in Salone, all okobo men always talk about woman biznez so as to fool the public that they can perform, when they can't?
Hey, quick request for you, why not push the poll thing to the guys of this forum. It is a no brainer, if you have the clit you get aroused and you fuck with passion. You can not force things when the feeling is not there. Guys will agree with me that it is better you have less work to do to arouse your girl than having to spend a whole night just to try and make akonkless bitch feel honey. And when she does feel honey, you better use some "chiness rub" to last at least an hour or else she would never climaxed (or cum). I am telling you out of personal experience. Those folks who followed my earlier debate will tell you.
Guys keep this debate alive, it is sure better than the name calling and the pull him down crap that our community is infected with. Check me out in Freetown this December, and join my campaign. It will be your opportunity to finally meet me......and maybe next time you will recognize me in the streets in the Bronx.
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Looking in
To: All
Date Posted: 20:02:28 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
As my teen son would say: "TMI" (too much information).
Subject: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:22:17 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
.. the things that matter the most
I think the FGM issues has been delved into and blown out of proportion on this forum – ironically, by the same gender group that introduced the practice into the traditional society years ago. Is there any other serious issue that is devastating our communities e.g. AIDS/ HIV that the chauvinist of this forum could opine. What about the AIDS/ HIV epidemic and the way it is RAVAGING OUR COMMUNITIES IN SILENCE? Isn’t AIDS more important than FGM – Oh I see! It is not as controversial as FGM, and folks like the controversial issues to make a name for themselves.
To all the FGM zealots on this forum who think FGM is more of a threat to our society than anything else, please get a life and let’s change the topic and focus on what matters the most - not what creates the most noise or controversy.
People are dying from AIDS/HIV, so maybe focusing on how we get more aid, grants, etc. to help educate the masses on prevention, testing and living with the disease would be rewarding
Peace!
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 17:01:00 10/15/07 ()
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Fullah Musu, Jarrah Mah.
Tana-Alla Torn?
In Futa Jalloh, your response would be "Jan Toon." This literally means "It's all peaceful."
You are absolutely right about putting the Bondo behind us. As a matter of fact, Kailahun District tradition forbids me, or any brother on this forum, from discussing the Bondo with unrestrained liberalism. Be that as it may, I often fret beneath my skin when an African tradition is attacked by Africans using the colonial master's logic. If the "civilized" West is so interested in saving Africa from backwardness, what explanation do Washington and London have for casting out chains of economic colonization to Africa through the IMF? Striving for responsible governance and poverty reduction should be much more topical among us than futile exercises in Bondo-bashing. Am I just as uncivilized for being a Poro initiate? May be so, in the eyes of His Imperial Majesty, Lord Lugard.
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 19:38:11 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Lovey Dovey
I hope you are not assuming the above article is mine.
Hey.... Come closer .... Yes closer ... Whiiiiissshhhh.
You are dying to hear from Sheba not so? .... One of these days she might just show up, but not to discuss the above topic...
AristoCat might not be far behind either, just to pull Long John Silver's leg ...
So far, it's all about the lady my dear
One another note .... I got it, will respond tomorrow.
Thanks for checking up on your sister. You are too kind.
Okay... Now go wash your eyes, and take a look at the name again ...... Whiiiisssssshhh ..... Ooooops
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 00:34:51 10/16/07 ()
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Message:
Lady J, I mistook SHABBA for Sheba. See How I miss Africa Online?
I can only hope Shabba will disregard the earlier posting.
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:53 10/16/07 ()
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Message:
Enviable – you are fine, your response was not offensive and besides, because you always show great common sense in your postings, I was not offended by your comments.
Regards!
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: PULL WHO'S LEG?
To: All
Date Posted: 19:58:20 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
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Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 20:32:05 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
AristoCat will get you.... U wait...
Meoowwww
Subject: TRANSITION TEAM REPORT IS NOT WORTH MUCH
From: Lumumba
To: All
Date Posted: 15:24:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: Lumumba@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
the transition team report seems to have little or no structure; does not give us snapshots of the status quo and lacks depth on the issues. A competent team as the one assembled should avoid the temptations of providing us with those 200 page long UN style documents.
President Koroma wants a snap shot, not a lecture.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION TEAM REPORT IS NOT WORTH MUCH
From: Expert
To: All
Date Posted: 05:23:52 10/16/07 ()
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Yes exactly so, and I wonder, who will even bother to read it.It reads more like a country-information sheet than report.I am sure, it has been copied from UN reports
Subject: Re: TRANSITION TEAM REPORT IS NOT WORTH MUCH
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 15:41:36 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Please give us a link so we can judge ....
Subject: FGM: For Alieu
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 14:53:13 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alieu,
This Bondo issue has been an issue in Africa well before the Human right protocols were developed. I don't know whether you are aware of this; but let me say that in Sierra Leone, we have tribes that are not practicing it at all. There are tribes that do practice it. The tribes that practice it are in majority. The women even laugh at each other, when those who practice it refer to those are not practicing it as “Gborokas” The story goes deeper than that. So those who are not practicing it are embarrassed sometimes when they are called "GBOROKAS"
As a matter of fact, those tribes that are not practicing it at all are in the fore front against FGM. You said that there have been studies conducted to show problems related to childbirth because of FGM? I don't believe you at all. And don't tell me anything about the reports or statements made to the Immigration, by some Asylum seekers, who have said that they ran away to seek asylum in the West because part of their body was cut off. Then the proof is that a medical doctor examined them and yes indeed, that was the case. Then they have evidence to back up their case. If any longitudinal studies have been done, show us the publications. That is why I said, to proof or disproof the assertions made, select experimental groups and control groups among different tribes in different countries and follow them for 20 years or so. Then interview them as they grow older and becoming parents about their childbirth, sex experiences etc. They will share their experiences under normal conditions and not when looking for asylum or something else.
Alieu, you are making people to go too deep into things that are not necessary.
Have done a study that compared childbirth complications cases related to FGM and non FGM women? Sow us the study. When we want something in the Western world, coming from a third world country, we say all kinds of lies, just to get asylum or grants as an NGO with the notion of going back to fight against it or educate people. We do that to ourselves.
Subject: Re: FGM: For Alieu
From: SOWEI
To: All
Date Posted: 18:13:07 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Why bother the learned Alieu with questions about Bilakorow bizness? In fact reseach has proven that the incidence of HIV/AIDS is less common among the circumcised. In east, central and southern africa circumcision is now encouraged, especially among men.
Can't you fathom that there is a direct correlation between circumcision and hygiene and between hygiene and HIV/AIDS. Forget about the terminology 'FGM'. In african lexicon we call the practice 'circumcision'. FGM is a new coinage. My english teacher at secondary told me many years back that the right term was 'excision'
The issues around the subject may be too passionate to elaborate and for that matter I'll stop here. Period.
Subject: A Rotten Brick in the Wall? No, Not Me!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:12:45 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Hey Guys, thank you all for being busy debating FGM. It is my pleasure to respond to one of you that wondered if I am a rotten brick in the wall or else that individual wanted to get my take on the debate. Well, I am alive and willing to participate in the debate. If fact, I have been reading all the exchanges but have no time to write responses or provide my own opinion. Reason, I have a lot of mid term papers to grade and other job commitments including a brief official travel. I am back and grades are in the system. Hopefully, I will have something to say soon.
I will be in Freetown on or around December 16, I will avail myself to all the major spots (or joints) hoping to see folks from the diaspora and probably seek some help pushing my agenda through to parliament and other higher places of government.
Eid Mubarak (belated) to my muslim brothers and sisters the world over.
Got to go teach now!
Subject: Re: A Rotten Brick in the Wall? No, Not Me!
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 18:20:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Mbalu,
Thanks for your response. I was wondering why you have not responded on a topic you started. That was why I tried to draw your attention. I am looking forward to response on the suggestion that a bill should be passed in parliament forcing FGM should only be performed by qualified doctors instead of banning it.
NOTE: When I refer to doctors I am not talking of Dr. Syvia Blyden. She is more of a journalist than a medical doctor.
Subject: Re: A Rotten Brick in the Wall? No, Not Me!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 11:59:38 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Political,
Thanks. I will start my responses and writing my opinions soon. On the FGM bill, I will definitely playing my lobbing role over the x-mas break down in Freetown.
Yes, I agree Sylvia is more of a newswoman (not a journalist) and businesswoman than a doctor. She is an interesting personality, to say the least.
Subject: concorioko is a lying skyamp - Awareness Times Editor.
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:53:12 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Nah joke...
Unu all too serious..
But what if it was true?
Did kabs fabricate a story?
Or did sylvia retract?
Or is this one of those preboxing hype kind of thing...? Where everyone is talking trash to hike the circulation numbers...?
Is there nothing better to report..?
What did Ernest eat for lunch..? Where ...? Nah Sia Cook..? Or nah want dem tanni..?
What did he wear..? Did he sleep at home..? Different bed..? Same room..?
How many relatives from binkolo now tap nah the compound.. ?
These are what we want to know.. (I meant if nothing betteh nor dey for report but).
Not which color draws sylvia wears, thongs of briefs..or if she even wears any..
Leave the poor gyal alone...we dont care...
Subject: CHEERS FOR BRA ENVIABLE
From: J.J BLOOD
To: All
Date Posted: 13:16:53 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cs307bimac019.gsu.edu at 131.96.237.28
Message:
Out of curiosity, I need to meet Envaible in person. Enviable can email me
at Freedomluvstruth@yahoo.com.
Each time Enviable converses on this forum, I get something from him
even when I disagree. From yesterday about Dr. Olloh to female genital
circumcision to cabinet posts, Enviable sounds enviable even when I do
not agree with him. I need to talk to this terrific brother.
Freedomluvstruth@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CHEERS FOR BRA ENVIABLE
From: WATERMELON
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:56 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: watermelon@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
JJ Blood we need your comments on Ambassador Leighs comments below.
"As you might suspect, SLPP was hijacked by powerful newcomers into the party and by their cronies (mostly crooks from the OLD APC)from genuine party members". Jonathan Leigh.
SO NAR UNA POIL THE TORGBOI Eh!!!
Subject: Re: CHEERS FOR BRA ENVIABLE
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:40:43 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
I second that..
Though i do not want to sound like you, almost in love with the man..
I do have greate admiration for the fella..
Subject: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 13:09:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.142
Message:
Now that SLPP partisans are threatening to beat up ex-president Kabba and scourge Pa Berewa with soaked kobokos, many potential aspirants for the top position are running scared. The SLPP gbogbo are in a particularly foul mood following the devastating defeat in the elections.
I understand that hamburger-gobbling diasporans who, after quaffing a coupla six packs of Bud, imagine themselves as leadership material, have suddenly become yellow about trying to become the big enchilada of the SLPP. They are scared of being manhandled by a mob of angry SLPPers. One SLPP honcho in Washington, DC was very clear about his change of heart. "I want to be leader, but I don't want to be whipped. Do you see the Kobokos they have stashed in HQ waiting to thrash Pa Kabba and Berewa?", my friend said. Even John Mannah the financial economist has decided to economise the pain of the whip and decline a run for the job of head honcho of the SLPP.
I am appealing to all my SLPP comrades in the Diaspora to please show some toughness and run for the leadership of the party.
ALIEU SESAY, CANDID ONE, KAMARA, ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA UNU YERRI EH? WETIN NAR SMALL KOBOKO BA? KANDA WARM, KANDA COLE.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:50:28 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
That position is meant for Charles Margai. He did not accept any position in the APC because he cannot call himself a true APC. He just helped the APC to defeat his old enemies that has been tormenting and preventing him from his rightful place. Charles is coming back to his base and would run against Ernest in 2012. My prediction, Charles will be prez in 2012. Lonta.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:01 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The SLPP old guard should retire gracefully and look for a young aspiring 'turk' to take things forward.
The whirl of activity since EBK became president (out and about hands-on leadership) shows why many democracies are opting for younger leaders.
Examples: Clinton and Bush in the US, Putin in France, Blair in the UK (and Cameron now Opposition leader), Sarkozy in France, Kabila in Congo etc.
We have to get rid of the "Pa knows best" mentality and give the younger generation a chance. After all, it is THEIR future that is at stake.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Lawrence Billgreyhood.
To: All
Date Posted: 21:12:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: caintdef.sbc.com at 144.160.130.16
Message:
"Examples: Clinton and Bush in the US, Putin in France, Blair in the UK (and Cameron now Opposition leader), Sarkozy in France, Kabila in Congo etc. "
Putin in France? That's "Cute" Bra! Somtin Butu. Much love Bro.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP! - Correction
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 16:01:49 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Sorry .. read as "Putin in Russia" (not France).
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Step Foward Youth
To: All
Date Posted: 16:00:56 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Yes Sir! I agree wih you.Considering that the majority of Sierra Leonean voters are between the ages of 18 and 40 years old why would they need sixty and seventy year old grannies and grandpas to lead them when they can better serve themselves?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:39:51 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Mr. Somtin Butu:
Your information that no one is interested in leading the SLPP is not correct. Here in the USA, a number of SLPP people, including myself, are working to clean-up the party and domocratically elect genuine chapters across the country as well as the party's Federal Executives.
Inside SL, a number of people have come forward to indicate their interest in seeking the leadership position as well as membership in the party's NEC that needs to be elected in the near future.
As you might suspect, SLPP was hijacked by powerful newcomers into the party and by their cronies (mostly crooks from the OLD APC)from genuine party members.
I am one of those working with those who are seeking to take SLPP back to its truely nationalistic roots. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 16:39:47 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-219-81-190.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net at 69.219.81.190
Message:
"mostly crooks from the OLD APC"
JL, I take offence to the above phrase, if anything these crooks were borrowed from the SLPP sinced its inception thus, the reason for the swift return.
You can be the best driver in the country, but from any other seat other than the driver's seat your talents will not manifest.
The above statement describes you: A man that have done plenty, and still can, but in the wrong seat of the vehicle.
Are you going to bid for the leadership?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 14:43:32 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
"As you might suspect, SLPP was hijacked by powerful newcomers into the party and by their cronies (mostly crooks from the OLD APC)from genuine party members."
Therefore, from the above statement Earnest koroma's cabinet is very strategic.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Kukujumuku
To: All
Date Posted: 14:19:20 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-148-52-112.range86-148.btcentralplus.com at 86.148.52.112
Message:
Bra Leigh, why dont you come out to declare your interest to lead the party as you are one the executive members of that party. you have all the qualities to be the leader of the party. be man enough to declare for the leadership and fight for the position. good example is president Koroma. from day one he wanted to be the leader of the apc and he fought tooth and nail for the position. today he has virtually reaped the benefit. i respect people like that.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:32:29 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Kukujumuku:
I am not an executive council member of the SLPP or any other party. Meanwhile, please note that I will make whatever decision is appropriate, if any, at the appropriate time only. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Kukujumuku
To: All
Date Posted: 15:22:23 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-148-52-112.range86-148.btcentralplus.com at 86.148.52.112
Message:
i awaits your decision as time is not on our side. Bra leigh, sierra leone needs you and you can not stay in the US and at the same time be leader of our party. i personally have great respect for you and i don't think their is anyone out there more qualified to lead our party than yourself. this is the most appropriate time for you to move in and fight for the leadership. it is not going to be easy but if you are aspiring to be the future president of our country, which i believe you are, this is the right time.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Frued
To: All
Date Posted: 15:14:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
I have not been following what is being discussed with any considerable depth. However, John Leigh would make,
would have made a good candidate for this job. Like him
or hate him, this is the reality.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Fact
To: All
Date Posted: 15:31:09 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
True, John Leigh will make a good SLPP leader. He is not tribalistic although he sometimes says outrageous things about some people.He also has friends and contacts all over the country and seems to love his country and is not afraid to speak his mind. I wonder however, whether he will fit into the SLPP mould, with people like JJ Blood, Benjamin, Karimu and all the other nasties. Will they give him a chance?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Gongoli
To: All
Date Posted: 16:11:15 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: gonos@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-66-127-21.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.66.127.21
Message:
John Leigh for SLPP leadership? If that's
the case you better close the party down and start a new one. This man is an opportunist who should not darken the doors of our political scene anymore. Any party in Sierra Leone needs a young and dynamic leadership and John Leigh has definitely passed his sell-by date.
He also cannot be trusted. I was in a meeting for the Albert Academy Old Boys Association where he stated that over a million dollars was collected in America to send to the school. This was not only a figment of his imagination, but thinking about it now, it was a pre election ploy that horribly went wrong.
What the SLPP or any political party needs now is not people who might want to recoup any losses they have incurred in the past. Most people are slating the APC for putting people without experience in ministerial positions. But the people they have chosen(in my opinion) are capable of doing a good job if they have the support and resources to work. You dont have to be a genius to work in government. As long as the
I prefer new people coming in rather than recyling the old stock. If the SLPP want to get back into power, they have young and upcoming contenders to take the mantle, forget about these old cronies who have failed us time and time again.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Frued
To: All
Date Posted: 15:51:14 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
They may give him a hard time but with the IC on John's
side thanks to his anti AFRC/RUF rhetoric during the junta days.
The fact that the country needs a good opposition watch
dog makes him even more fit for the job. The Benjamins
and co are just political hustlers ready to do anything
for a living.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:37:55 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Though i think this is an exercise in wasted bandwidth, let me attempt at clarity one more time..
I am not a member of the SLPP, never was, never been..
I supported them during the last election.. i would have voted berewa if i was a registered voter..
But i am not a card carrying member..neither would i care at this stage who is the top huncho..
I have added white and blue to my colors after the election.. and gone back to salone mode switching off election mode.. as we all should...
I do hope the SLPP chooses someone we can all aspire to and keep the democratic fire burning, if they bounce back and salivate me with proper national agenda, i might go green.. if Ernest's performs, first term goals and promises kept, i might be going red next election season..
Yes, call me flip flopper, burn me at the cross..
I am not a diehard..
My religion, is salone.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:02 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.232.76
Message:
Candido, you never cease to amaze me. Remeber we've been here before and you absolutely made it clear that you're a very strong SLPP supporter. Why change of view now.
Don't dessert your party because of misfortune.
As for me, I've always maitained that I don't have definite party to support but which ever does well for the good of the country.
This time I'm APC for the next five years. Don't copy my style.
Though I don't like loyal support for a party, because I believe loyal supporters are not always for the interest of the nation, meaning even if the party mess up they still go with the flow.
Stay blessed.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Mr Grant...
I expressed strong support.. and i will continue to do so as and when i see fit on this and other forum depending on the issue been discussed and what side of the bed i wake up or if i GOT SOME the previouse night.. my prerogative...
This thread is about leading the party.. and my handle was mentioned.. I just wanted to make it clear.. i am only a supporter.. i have never given a cent.. dont have a wardrobe full of green vests, not registered etc.. etc.. JUST support... thats it..i do hope thats not looked at in a negative light.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:18:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.243.122.56
Message:
My friend, the same is attributed to me like I said, loyal support for a party is not the answer for our democracy.
I have respect for you bro.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 14:15:24 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.82.23.33
Message:
Candid
I like your wit ... You made me LOL.
Thanks
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 13:13:02 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
I need fifteen years to contest the Leadership of my Party. When that time comes, i will proudly present my case to the SLPP and if i am elected, will lead them to VICTORY.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 16:48:06 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-219-81-190.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net at 69.219.81.190
Message:
How old will you be then?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 16:54:21 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Old enough to be constitutionally qualified to lead the Party and Nation...
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: the Guy
To: All
Date Posted: 07:25:10 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 130.36.27.151
Message:
Great! you got my vote.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: TINK YOU DO ME
To: All
Date Posted: 08:09:08 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-57-248.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.57.248
Message:
Right, I will send you your sixty thousand leones and wan bag res
Subject: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 12:45:54 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-74-225-144.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 72.74.225.144
Message:
A few days ago, Cocorioko had a "Plans to Blackmail Cocorioko' article on the website. I responded in a post that Cocorioko, is beginning to sound like Sylvia Blyden for putting up "news" like this and to not fall into the trap of putting up every attack on the newspaper and Mr. Kanu or to start reporting on "news" about individuals related to this newspaer as this just turns the newspaper into a trashy tabloid.
A couple days later over the weekend, Cocorioko followed with worthless crap about an Alex Mansaray running into Sylvia Blyden at Lungi and that she congratulated Cocorioko on contributing to the election win of EK and that she does not have beef with Cocorioko, it is a fine newspaper etc. Now there is another front page item that Sylvia on Monday, has printed a rebuttal and that she made no such comments.
HELLO! This is what I was warning about. Keep this a newspaper, please! You're doing a good job. There, you have a compliments. Don't start reporting on how so and so said Cocorioko is a great newspaper or how Cocorioko helped win an election etc. Let's step it up. Too much of our representation on the internet is so third world and backwards. Make this a shining example. Please and thank you.
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 19:11:39 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-184-51-107.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 71.184.51.107
Message:
Was just on Awareness Times and they have what amounts to a declaration of war (see below) re this issue! Wow, this is even beyond the worst case scenario that I expected from her. Mr. Kanu, see why you can't reduce your esteemed media outlet to tabloid junk. Stay away from the back and forth with other SL newspapers. If any of them attacks you, it does not merit a response.
To highlight what I was cautioning against, about printing news about Mr. Kanu. Look at Sylvia's little volley shot below. I don't know if this is printed in the actual paper in Freetown, but look at what people looking for news have to read. Its all about the woman.
The Editor of Cocorioko is hereby being kindly asked to IMMEDIATELY remove the article he has placed on his front page which said article is completely full of inaccuracies and misquotations concerning the friendly meeting between the Publisher of this newspaper and Mr. Alex Mansaray at Lungi Airport two days ago. It will also do that editor well as a self-professed Man of God, to reflect on his sustained publication of a wicked litany of lies against the Publisher of this newspaper who has, to her deep credit, mostly ignored his penchance for publishing dangerous, hate-filled and inciteful false articles against her person.
Alex Mansaray is a gentleman who was meeting Awareness Times Publisher for the second time. The first time was during a visit to one of her Internet Cafes during which they had a nice rapport.
"The only reference I made to Alex Mansaray about Cocorioko at Lungi Airport, was to describe it as a 'lie-lie' newspaper that has sought times without number to demean me in the eyes of the public! I never spoke about their role in the APC let alone congratulated Cocorioko for its role in the just ended elections during which period he published unprintable LIES about me and my personal life. LIES, which I carefully ignored. I have bitten my tongue and placed my trust in God just as I have done all these years when Cocorioko released ceaseless lies against me to the public domain," Sylvia Blyden asserts.
If the Cocorioko Editor does not know it, THERE IS A GOD IN THIS WORLD and the Almighty's wrath, when he exercises it, against deserving people like the Cocorioko Editor, is a thing to be feared.
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Forum Veteran
To: All
Date Posted: 13:24:09 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: aca3ec82.ipt.aol.com at 172.163.236.130
Message:
It is not worthless crap, Sam. It is an interesting piece of news that speaks a lot. Ask other veteran forumites. Sylvia has always been a chameleon. This article is sort of saying: "Hey, you SLPPers out there. Listen. Sylvia will soon jump ship."
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 13:13:11 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
Syntax versus semantics! Your heading is misleading to say the least. I think you meant 'tell a lie' as opposed to 'lie on'.
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: London
To: All
Date Posted: 13:12:44 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
Syntax versus semantics! Your heading is misleading to say the least. I think you meant 'tell a lie' as opposed to 'lie on'.
Subject: sloppy or no proof reading
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 12:34:08 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
Headlines in error is taking away the readership quality. Kabs please fire your proof reader. My American colleagues grilled (Provoke- krio) me this morning. I am so disappointed.
ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
LIE ON????
New Jersey Morgage Banker and Businessman
Morgage????
for its elections -time role
elections -time role????
during their chance meeting
chance????
Subject: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 10:04:22 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
A recurring issue on various internet fora has to do with the ethnicity of the members of cabinet. Why is this such an important issue for people? I am hard pressed to see what difference a Minister's ethnicity makes especially since they are no longer MP's representing a consituency. A cabinet minister serves at the pleasure of the president to implement the president's agenda. Which is why the forcible inclusion of opposition parties in a so-called government of national unity makes no sense at all. How can we expect members of the SLPP to work harmoniously in goverment with the APC and then contest an election against them in 2012? Who will take credit for any achievements or failures? Na so one-party state kin begin!
But back to the issue of ethnicity of cabinet Ministers. Is there a belief that cabinet members may be biased to one region over another in the distribution of government largesse/development projects? Is there any evidence to support this belief? In every presidential administration since 1970, there has been regional dominance in the cabinet. And for the most part, these guys have enriched themselves personally without regard to their home consituencies. Other than S.I. Koroma and a few others, many did not even direct development projects to their area of origin. So why is ethnicity considered to be so important?
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's - AND History...
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:06 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.87.143.3
Message:
KKW, I do admire your idealism (your quote from Shakespeare's Hamlet explains much about your thinking).
Unfortunately, unlike the US and other western democracies, sub-Saharan African states do not have the benefit of political parties based on ideology. Our countries did not evolve through voluntary alliances but were forged overnight via the barrels of colonial guns and the hangman's noose (remember Chief Bai Bureh?).
So, whether we like it or not our systems are currently tribal and will be so for a while until natural genetic intermingling makes the issue redundant. In the meantime, it is essential that major tribal and regional blocks feel represented in any national government that wishes to preserve harmony.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 12:47:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
Please don't try to make like you just entered SL from out of space. Tribalism and Regionalism are a matter of fact in SL politics. Those two factors definitely influence our political system.
Even if tribalism is not taken into account, but regionalism should, in order to show "national representation" for the sake of epecting national confidence. Visit this link and see the analysis
Would you have been happy to see all Mendes or only people from the Suth and East in an SLPP government?
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:36 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
Brother Toegondoe, is it true that the APC ARE SUSPICIOUS OF CHARLES? A TOP APC WIG has confided in me that they distrust your man. By the way your OneSaloneNews appears professional.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 10:41:57 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
KKW, The past instances discussed in your piece occurred when Sierra Leone was an authoritarian state with unchallenged powers in Siaka Stevens. In this "New Dawn" where accountability is supposedly in vogue, a balanced cabinet is needed for fair, developmental representation. I am NOT calling for SLPP men to be co-opted into President Koroma's government. Far from it. The APC has quite a number of South-Easterners in its fold, and an even-handed distribution of cabinet posts in a government promising fair play, will be acceptably appropriate.
Last week, you drew an analogy with the federal government of the United States with regards to political appointments. The error in that comparison lies in the fact that the American political system is a union of states with a lot of local autonomy and resources for the execution of everyday business. Poor and centralized as we are, the absence of representation from the center of state power in Freetown, could easily turn into neglect.
Neglect deepens into abandonment, which gives rise to cones of squalid poverty in return. Those living within such "Bantustans" of poverty invariably associate their conditions with ethnicity. I am saying this with all the experience and recollections I have as a South-Easterner. Such analyses may be wrong, but that is how Sierra Leone is observed in the interior when state actors are heavily concentrated within a specific region.
We are different from America, and comparisons pitting American modes of power distribution to ours, are a bit far-fetched. I have known you online for quite sometime, and you are one of the most harmless brothers I know. That is why I chose to go over this topic. I normally move on after the first discharge of opinionated steam. Have a nice, brother KKW
U Man,
Nya Ngaa Tikekeh
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: silent majority
To: All
Date Posted: 12:52:39 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 195.54.227.249
Message:
"Poor and centralized as we are, the absence of representation from the center of state power in Freetown, could easily turn into neglect.
Neglect deepens into abandonment, which gives rise to cones of squalid poverty in return. Those living within such "Bantustans" of poverty invariably associate their conditions with ethnicity."
Bra E, like you i am responding because i recollect some enlightening contributions from you on this forum.
You may be right about the perception of the people living in 'Bantustans' You may also be right about the fact that they blame ethnicity.
But by your own admission the heart of the problem is 'NEGLECT' by the centre of power. It is the president that has a mandate. If such a president is predisposed to neglecting large areas of the interior then surely he will suffer the consequences in this 'new dawn'. Furthermore the ministers serve at the pleasure of the president so again if the president is prepared to neglect any areas then even if the minister comes from that area he is still bound to do the president's bidding or lose his job. Result: neglect.
In my view the critical issues in the 'new dawn' are
a; whether the president has a programme for delivering sustainable jobs, running water, electricity and other developments for the greatest number of voters.
b; whether he can find the right people with talent, determination and resourcefulness to deliver this programme as he is bound to meet with resisitance from erstwhile vested interests and a general resisitance to change.
If you accept that analysis then it follows that the presidents overriding consideration in selecting ministers must be merit, commiiment to his programme etc. Not ethnicity. Because in the final analysis it is the President that will be called to account for his stewardship at the next elections and if he has not delivered on jobs, light and water the 'balance of his cabinet is unlikely to count for much.
In my view that fact that a 'state actor' is from one's area offers little more that a temporay 'feel good' factor. There is little to suggest that this is a great factor in driving the performance of a 'state actor' to the benefit of his area. The real driver of perfomance of the minister in this 'new dawn' is the programme of the president and the capacity of the president to monitor his ministers performance. So it is the presidents programme that must be balanced.
In conclusion therefore; what we really need in this 'new dawn' is a government of national delivery rather than a government of national unity.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 11:19:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
Bra E - we can agree to disagree on this point. As far as I am aware, there is no region in Sierra Leone, (even the capital) that is not dirt poor. From my travels around the country, I have not seen any evidence that one region is noticeably more developed than others. In fact arguably the cities of Bo and Kenema in the south east show more promise than say, Makeni or Port Loko.
Even looking at some of the projects in the Transition Committee's report, I do not see regional bias. If the correlation between ethnicity at the centre and distribution of the national cake were true, we should have seen the majority of projects going to the South-East during the last 10 years or so.
So I think we are talking about perception rather than reality. If people "feel good" that their kinsfolk are part of the administration, even though their region does not directly benefit from it, well, we're talking about an intangible, unsupported by facts.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: national unity
To: All
Date Posted: 10:38:41 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
They can be from APC but from other regions. That is what i believe is lacking in the current cabinet.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: SGK
To: All
Date Posted: 18:59:39 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 91.84.136.50
Message:
national unity,
My brother it is very difficult to find someone from the the east/south-east whole heartedly loyal to the APC party and the president as a whole. I think that was the conundrum for the president.
Subject: Looking for Ticket
From: mo
To: All
Date Posted: 08:54:29 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: mahamay22312@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 69.25.45.6
Message:
I guess there was someone who said they sell tickets to freetown through Brussels or France; could you please contact me by email or give a number with area code that you could be reach.
Or do anybody knows how i can get a better deal for tickets to Freetown? please help.
kind regards
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: Bhaskar
To: All
Date Posted: 21:32:10 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: bhaskarsmail@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe00195b4bf214-cm001a667071fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com at 99.227.232.7
Message:
Fly from anywhere in Canada to London (Gatwick) tickets are as less as CAD 400 return and then on from London fly AIR MOROC it flies to freetown twice a week now. London to Morocco change of plane to Freetown. Return in Air Moroc is costing CAD/US 1150 which means your total trip is of abour 1600 only. I am not a travel agent but a frequent flier in this route. Want more info write to me, i will be glad to help you.
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: Pa Sorie
To: All
Date Posted: 19:45:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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try 240 988 2918, they will beat any quote u have.....
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: BRITISH AIRWAYS FOR $2,380.00
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Date Posted: 10:40:06 10/15/07 ()
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I CAN SELL YOU A TICKET ON BRITISH AIRAYS TO FREETOWN FOR $2,380.00 CONTACT MOHAMED BARIGUE 240-724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: AIR FRANCE CONAKRY $1300
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Date Posted: 10:42:08 10/15/07 ()
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I CAN SELL YOU A TICKET ON AIR FRANCE TO CONAKRY FOR $1,300.00 PLEASE CALL (240)724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: SLOK
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Date Posted: 10:46:57 10/15/07 ()
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Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
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SOUTH AFRICA TO SENEGAL IS $1145.00
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: FROM SENGAL TO FREETOWN?
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Date Posted: 10:51:01 10/15/07 ()
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CAN I GO BY ROAD FROM SENGEAL TO FREETOWN OR HOW MUCH IS THE PLANE COST FROM DAKAR TO FREETOWN? THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: slok
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Date Posted: 14:59:13 10/15/07 ()
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Slok cost $199.00 and 325.00 round trip to freetown.
Flight leaves on friday, saturday and tuesday.South africs goes everyday to senegal from jfk and returns to JFK and DC.
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: SN BRUSSELS TO FREETOWN FOR $1457.00
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Date Posted: 10:44:25 10/15/07 ()
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I CAN SELL YOU A TICKET ON SN BRUSSELS TO FREETOWN FOR $1,457.00 PLEASE CALL MOHAMED BARIGUE 240-724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: FLY NOW PAY LATER
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Date Posted: 10:46:20 10/15/07 ()
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BILL ME IN 6 MONTHS OR MAKE PAYMENT PLANS. FOR THE LOWEST TICKET TO FREETOWN , PLEASE CALL MOHAMED BARIGUE @ 240-724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:04:37 10/15/07 ()
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Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Mohamed Barigue. his number is 240-724-6246. Lives in MD
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: BRITISH AIRWAYS REAP-OFF.
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Date Posted: 11:04:07 10/15/07 ()
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Why is British airways so expensive? Are they selling the tickets in pounds and then converting the currency and then charging us. Please link below on how they are stealing money from Africans
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: AIRWAY ROBBERY
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Date Posted: 11:11:34 10/15/07 ()
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They are responsible for the underdevelopment of African countries.
Subject: Cabinet
From: Observation
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Date Posted: 08:38:10 10/15/07 ()
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It is very distressing to see that a brilliant,patriotic and articulate Economist J. Sanpha Koroma is left out of the Cabinet.He could be a great Asset to APC.
Subject: Re: Cabinet
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 09:50:28 10/15/07 ()
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There are several other places for him to make a contribution.
Subject: Re: Cabinet
From: Reporter
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Date Posted: 11:40:16 10/15/07 ()
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I believe he (J. Sanpha Koroma) can best serve by continuing to encourage other S. Leoneans to participate in the private sector. He has made a huge contribution to the development of indigenous corporate ventures.
Whatever his faults, he should be respected and honoured for "putting his money where his mouth is" and creating 100s of stable jobs for his compatriots.
Subject: EKE HOLLOWAY IS A CROOK
From: Ibrahim Koroma
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Date Posted: 08:29:43 10/15/07 ()
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This man has been involved in so many dubious activities and has used his connections with the SLPP to get away with a lot of things.For instance he sold a land at Juba to my late uncle and was sued by someone else who claimed the land was his.Lawyers were reluctant to pursue the case given his strong connections with the then ruling party.Eke your time is up as you can no longer hide but face justice for your criminal acts.Sierra Leone belongs to all of us and with the new dawn upon us there shall be sacred cows.Lonta
Subject: Re: EKE HOLLOWAY IS A CROOK
From: Pa Sorie
To: All
Date Posted: 19:47:14 10/15/07 ()
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go court
Subject: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: David Conteh, Lagost, Nigeria
To: All
Date Posted: 07:40:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: poah76@msn.com
Entered From: c-24-128-87-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 24.128.87.202
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According to a Sierra Leonean resident in Nigeria, the Kabba SLPP siphoned millions of hard currency through the Sierra Leone ambassador to Nigeria,his deputy, and head of chancery. Mr. David Conteh, a student in Nigeria sent this report to The Patriotic Vanguard as a contribution under the headline, New Cabinet Ministers Announced. He earlier tried the awareness times and realized that it is pro slpp media so he sorted to put this information on The Patriotic Vanguard, appealing to the editor to pass this message to the present APC government. According to Mr. David Conteh, the three persons mentioned above are richer than a whole region in Sierra Leone and is appealing to the Koroma's administration to probe into the issue without delay. If that is true all ambassadors must be screened thoroughly with the help of their respective host governments. Mr. Conteh is also appealing to the press to make this issue known to the public. The Lebian President might also be of help to some of these allegations.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: Democracy Now
To: All
Date Posted: 12:49:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: alubless@comcast.net
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Message:
I hope the SL Government and the SL 'FBI' will take note of this rumor and treat it with seriousness. It is unrealistic to ask of evidence from an ordinary man who has simply try to tip the state of the information. We do not know who David Conteh is, he might be a blind man or a house boy who might be disregarded in secrete conversations so it is unwise to ignore such info on the basis of lack of evidence. In as much as rumor should not be granted as truth, it is also unwise to sit down without making any effort about it. I think it is the responsibility of the state to find the evidence if it can.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: You AxxHxxx
To: All
Date Posted: 08:23:41 10/15/07 ()
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Where is the Bank account, what is the name of account holder,what is the account number,who are the signatories???If you do not have answers for these, just sidom saful, and do not waste our time.We have a lot and lot of work to do.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 08:54:47 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
"We have a lot and lot of work to do"
I agreed with the above and accountability is major part of the work.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: David Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:53:21 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: poah76@msn.com
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Message:
Sorry for the spelling mistake on the above head line. It should be THE SLPP SIPHONED MILLIONS OF $ TO NIGERIA.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: who is conteh?
To: All
Date Posted: 07:57:11 10/15/07 ()
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Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Why should anyone believe you? Where is the evidence?
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 09:02:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
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It is unwise to provide criminal evidence on the internet before an investigation was made. I would suggest such evidence to be forwarded to the Salone authority. They will decide whether on the bases of information at hand is cridible to mount a prema facia case against the accused. Let us not redicle people who may have genuine case on corruption.
Subject: British boost Police force
From: Bridlington Today
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Date Posted: 06:49:05 10/15/07 ()
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Police gift to Africa
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View GalleryBy Jodie Beecroft
POLICE officers in Sierra Leone are going to be able to conduct interviews more efficiently after a donation from Humberside Police.
Interview machines are not available in Sierra Leone and Humberside Police's machines were surplus to requirements, because they had been replaced by more advanced models.
Deputy Chief Constable David Griffin said: "We are happy to help our colleauges in Sierra Leone.
"The machines have played a part in many successful investigations across the Humberside Police area and I hope they will do the same in their new home."
Subject: Response by Awareness Times
From: M
To: All
Date Posted: 01:28:09 10/15/07 ()
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Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher at Lungi
By Awareness Times
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The Editor of Cocorioko is hereby being kindly asked to IMMEDIATELY remove the article he has placed on his front page which said article is completely full of inaccuracies and misquotations concerning the friendly meeting between the Publisher of this newspaper and Mr. Alex Mansaray at Lungi Airport two days ago. It will also do that editor well as a self-professed Man of God, to reflect on his sustained publication of a wicked litany of lies against the Publisher of this newspaper who has, to her deep credit, mostly ignored his penchance for publishing dangerous, hate-filled and inciteful false articles against her person.
Alex Mansaray is a gentleman who was meeting Awareness Times Publisher for the second time. The first time was during a visit to one of her Internet Cafes during which they had a nice rapport.
"The only reference I made to Alex Mansaray about Cocorioko at Lungi Airport, was to describe it as a 'lie-lie' newspaper that has sought times without number to demean me in the eyes of the public! I never spoke about their role in the APC let alone congratulated Cocorioko for its role in the just ended elections during which period he published unprintable LIES about me and my personal life. LIES, which I carefully ignored. I have bitten my tongue and placed my trust in God just as I have done all these years when Cocorioko released ceaseless lies against me to the public domain," Sylvia Blyden asserts.
If the Cocorioko Editor does not know it, THERE IS A GOD IN THIS WORLD and the Almighty's wrath, when he exercises it, against deserving people like the Cocorioko Editor, is a thing to be feared
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 05:02:02 10/15/07 ()
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I have always known that this..woman Sylvia, is as slithery as a snake. If you play with a snake, get ready to be bitten "where the sun don't shine". Cocorioko should not be playing with a Gaboon Viper. This is a typical case of He Said, She Said. People are going to take sides on the isue. I firmly believe Cocorioko's version of events and I will leave it at that. My mouth is itching to let loose on Madam Awareness, but I heed Kabs' counsel that we let sleeping vipers lie.
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: FORREST GUMP
To: All
Date Posted: 06:47:57 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
I believe very firmly The Awareness Times version because Cocorioko has been known to twist stories around
FORREST
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:53:31 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
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Dear FORREST:
I respectfully beg to differ. As between Kabs and Sylbyana RUF Mrs. Foday Sankoh, Kabs is the more honest and responsible.
The other is a harloting, unprincipled, lying rouge who can turn against you in a flash in promoting her fickled-self-interests and should never be trusted, ever! Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: Patriot
To: All
Date Posted: 09:06:49 10/15/07 ()
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I believe Cocorioko because Kabs is more truthful than Sylvia Blyden. Everything that Kabs writes comes to pass. All Kabs reported about the election turned out to be true and APC won. SLPPers disputed everthing that came from his pen but Kabs was exonerated when everything came true. The Frog-Doctor on the other hand said Berewa had won the elections by 58% to 42% , going by exit polls she conducted all over Sierra Leone.It turned out to be just one of Sylvia's lies.
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: ADE LAUGH
To: All
Date Posted: 11:07:43 10/15/07 ()
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Kabs is real and Ninja girl a farce. My two cents is that Kabs should just ignore that ugly thing of a viper.
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: The Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 11:14:20 10/15/07 ()
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Entered From: f298781.ga.unc.edu at 152.4.31.217
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This should never have been reported in the first place; it is not a worthy news. Always endeavor to avoid your adversary as much as possible, even reporting favorable news about him.
Subject: SYLVIA BLYDEN A FAN OF COCORIOKO
From: U SA BI TALK
To: All
Date Posted: 00:09:04 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
Alex Mansaray commonly known as Lexo in the creole circle was very very upset to learn that this Buffalo
Journalist, is denying saying that cocorioko did a superb Job for APC during the last elections .The awarenesstimes newspaper Editor, is said to have been flaurting with Lexo when she revailed her true feelings for Lexo, cocorioko and APC.Cheers to Sylvia for letting it all hang loose.
Long live cocorioko.
Subject: Re: SYLVIA BLYDEN A FAN OF COCORIOKO
From: Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 09:11:41 10/15/07 ()
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What makes me believe that Sylvia said so is why would Kabs write a good story about his enemy ? After all, the article does a lot of good to Sylvia.Infact when I read it I was vexed and I asked whether Kabs has started again to praise and lift up Sylvia.
Subject: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:50:02 10/14/07 ()
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Buford why the silence my brother?
Are you now one of the PAs? Or are you a disappointed politician who expected to be a part of the Koroma Cabinet?
Usai you dae?
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: KONGOSSA
To: All
Date Posted: 08:53:53 10/15/07 ()
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Entered From: adsl-074-228-219-218.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.228.219.218
Message:
Buford hwy is doing find and he is in Canada working,but he comes back to the US every weekend,and he should be back somtime this week finally. Before he left for Canada,he was called upon to serve on the transition team,but turned it down because of his contract at his job.
Bra Salone needs someone like buford hwy's knowledge,and Bra A.I.and FODAY MANSARAY can testify to that. I am in DC,but everybody knows in the rank and file of the APC that BUFORD HWY does not want any poltical appointment.
BRA AR NOR WAN BLOW EI COVER,BUT DE BORBOH GET SENSE EN MONEY NAR HERE SO EN SALONE.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:08:10 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Ar need for see am wae e cam.. whenever that is.. I will be in Sierra leone this month.. and Canada next month-Toronto and Burlington to be precise.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: KONGOSSA
To: All
Date Posted: 09:34:58 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
watin do? u wan for mix am up nar den oona tiff en crook slpp way? doya lef de borboh saful.slpp eniside oona go nar for go corrupt.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:51:58 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
Bra yousef lef me . ah...Bo watin wrong with you ba?
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 04:52:09 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
Alieu, you have some serious issues that need to be resolved on a pschiatrist's couch. You and your co-SLPP fanatic, 'Alpha' Saidu Bangura need to stanch this immature glee at what you presume to be the 'misfortune' of others. By the way, did being a loyal foot soldier of the SLPP get you buttered with some of the loot your party stole? Well, the APC is not like that. Support here does not require a kickback. So as you laugh your head off like a hyena, and obsess yourself to distraction with tribal profiling of the cabinet, just realize that you guys are gonna be in the political wilderness for 40 years like Moses. Welcome to the poitical Sanai, chump!
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 07:33:12 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
"'Misfortune'"? Buford is a friend and his abscence is a concern. Go look for somebody else for FEN PLABA.
The SLPP will be back in 2012 trust me. Your party will not deliver on the numerous promises.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:12 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
Ah Alieu, the APC is gonna amaze, dazzle and scintillate the cheerleader out of your miserable party. We will deliver the goods to the Sierra Leoneans, while you greenies will be tapping wine from the barren palmtree. 40 years in power! Even Buford will get a ministerial post at some point in time.
By the way, is it true that SLPP thugs, egged on by the intellectual thugs in the diaspora have threatened to beat up ex-President Kabba if they ever lay their hands on him? I hear that a special rattan cane has been imported by John Benjamin from Segbwema for the express purpose of caning the former president. EH SLPP, U NAR NOR KNOW SAY U NAR GO TOTE SWEH FOR DAE FLAG OLD PA DEM?
Subject: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 22:23:00 10/14/07 ()
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I do not want to take part in the Bondo discussion because my views on this topic are very contrary to Western characterizations of this tradition. However, I have a question that has been lodged in me for quite some time. The phrase "female genital mutilation" is definitely very lurid, and that is how its {Western} originators want it to remain. Here is my question.
Why is it that Western moralists and prudes have NEVER referred to male circumcision as "Male Genital Mutilation, MGM?"
My intention is NOT to defend or trivialize the {perceived} abnormality in the Bondo society. However, I have quibbles with Western perceptions of Africa. As a student of International Relations, I am certainly no stranger to the manipulation of words and phrases by Western nations with racist intent. Racism is part of International Politics, and one only needs to look at the global stage to know why "genocide" was stopped in Bosnia only to have the lexical meaning of the word debated in Darfur. When the Spanish do the yearly "running of the bull" in which throngs of Europeans run in front of a charging seven-hundred pound bull, it is called a tradition. The sight of Africans doing a similar thing will be frowned upon as barbaric, hence the Western racist belief that Africans are mentally inferior.
The racist justifications for slavery continue today, albeit with subtlety. Deny a targeted people every chance to define themselves on their own terms, and move in with justifications for wanting them "civilized." This was the step taken toward slavery and colonialism. The West single-handedly decides what is civilized and what is not. Male circumcision will be probably called "Male Genital Mutilation" if it were not done in the West. Why is male circumcision not referred to as "Male Genital Mutilation?" Is it because Western policy makers are all circumcised adults?
After slavery and colonialism, why let John Bull continue to decide what is appropriate?
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 01:22:33 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bra Enviable, Ar dae wit yu.
I posed the same question to our cyber-sista (cyber-named Mballu).
The same women that are performing these rituals or as they call it, unscientific unwestern process are the same women that are performing as midwifes at birth time in the villages.
No one is crying about deaths at births in the villages upline due to unhygeinised non-medical tools.
The midwifes in the villages have been helping out even when there are no hospitals. Heck a lot of Sierra Leonean born in the provinces during 50s to 70s were not born in hospitals.
So who took care of all our fine women?
FGM is abnormal in civilised society so we should bash it. WHAT? WHAT?
Why did the Word "MUTILATION" even got appended to the practice?
I search for the word Mutilation in wikipedia and here is what came up.
According to western standards, examples of mutilation can be found in Africa. That's what is found on wikipedia when any race wants to find out about MUTILATION. No sample of anywhere else in world except Africa.
When westerners Scar themselves in these SADIST/MASOCHISM palours, oh no no no, It is NOT Mutilation. This is called a LIFESTYLE. Give us a break!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutilation
Now you tell me Brothers what you think.
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 01:35:38 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
My Bad!
One of the photos is from Papua New Guinea (PNG), but all the same a BLACK race.
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 00:45:31 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
This may come as a surprise to you Bra E. But male circumscision is mandated in the Bible and the Koran for many reasons chief amongst them is cleanliness. Female circumscision is however not mandated either by the koran, the torah or the bible. Male circus=mscision is derived from the dictates of the Abrahimic religions which is not so for FGM.
What will surprise you however is that there are studies that show that many men in the so called western world are actually uncircumscised.
I very much support your points on the issue of the wests racisit attitudes towards our people. But to what extent have we brought that upon ourselves? You see bra E people do not respect you if you do not respect yourselves. If wee want the west to respect us we must first start by creating societies that are liveable. FGM has no place in that new dispensation.
when we relate every effort to recreate our societies according to What is right, not what is expedient, the introduction into the calculus of arguments about wersternism is an unreasonable segue which is non conforming to the thrust of the present debate. All the same your points are well taken.
Stay Blessed bra.
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 08:07:47 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
Guys,
In 2001, the Africa Online forum went up in flame on this same issue, and it created unnecessary friction amongst participants who chose to contribute.
Alieu, you are well aware that FGM is an ancient tradition, as much as the majority of us opposes it, we have been going about the wrong way to dispose of it.
In 1999, the theme for International Women’s day was violence against women, and FGM was the main topic at the Africa Women’s Caucus. We sat in our own small room fidgeting with our big head ties on our heads trying to come up with proposals to challenge our elders back home.
In 2004, when we gave an update, there was some improvement here and there, but the elders are still succeeding. This means that we have to come up with “alternative” strategies to eradicate an old tradition.
This year , the International Women’s Day decided to use the same theme as that of 1999 …. Violence against Women. … FGM was on the list, but this time around, it was overshadowed by Rape.
Alieu, we have been doing the best we can, it’s going to take some time, but I believe you have seen some changes in Sierra Leone.
It’s a long journey, which requires a triple A card.
(Awareness, Acceptance and Action)
We are AWARE of the problem, we’ve ACCEPTED that it’s a problem, the most difficult task in our journey is taking ACTION against it.
This is where I support Lovey Dovey’s (Bra E.) sentiments … It’s our problem, now we know we don’t want it anymore, we have to apply the traditional method to eradicate it. Respect to those who believe in it, and let them know why it’s now outdated and has no use in today’s society.
In 1999, I was one of those fiery speakers at the Caucus, and I was considered too young and too passionate, even though they utilized me to the fullest …. Today, it’s a different story … I did what I did then, based on my limited experience, now that I know more than I knew then, my approach is totally different today.
What I’ve noticed so far amongst those who went through the tradition, is the anger they bring to the table because of their LOSS. This campaign is not about us, it’s about our younger sisters and those to come.
It’s about PREVENTION, not INTERVENTION…. If you have been through it, you just have to find alternative ways of getting pleasure, and sometimes taking the alternative route can be scenic, and might become the best route you ever took …. Your imagination and creativity is up for grabs
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:08 10/15/07 ()
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I enjoyed reading this response and it waslike a breath of fresh air.
Thanks!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: Lovey Dovey
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Date Posted: 09:16:30 10/15/07 ()
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Lady J, Nar so u sabi raps?
In future, we go make u
Foreign Minister for
represent Salone nar
dae international community.
U geh dae xperience already.
Enty u ready eh?
Na im dat. Leh man go school.
Subject: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 19:58:48 10/14/07 ()
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Alieu,
Of all your suggestions, I support the one below. May be we should train the local people as well and provide them with modern equipments to perform the practice for health reasons. Below is your quote.
"ONLY qualified medical doctors should be allowed to conduct the procedures and any violations of that law be sanctioned by imprisonment. (Now lets see them break their Hippocratic Oath)” This is the COMPROMISE and then follow with a longitudinal study of randomly selected subjects in different countries and tribes.
Mutilation of body parts done by self or someone else is not good. There are a lot of things done to body parts that are not right. However, any of the bad acts that either originates from the West or also practice in the west is OK. But when the practice is only done by Africans or the so called “third world”, it is evil. As for me, FGM, body piercing, tattooing, self cutting, removing part of your body for fashion like plastic surgery or removing part of your body because you don’t want to have a baby, are all bad. If it is for medical reason, that is OK. These things are done in the west, but no one is condemning it under the notion of CHOICE. Once it is done in the West or originates from the West and taken to other parts of the world, Oh, the West is the model for civilization and therefore, it is OK. Once it originates from the West or the act is a practiced or endorsed by the West, nothing is wrong. Why can't the local people be trained, give them modern equipment and them do a LONGITIDUNAL study. The study will look at all the alleged ills associated to FGM. May be conclusion of the study may find it healthy or most if not all the assertions are insignificant. Some of the things the study should look at are cleanliness/hygiene, reduction of promiscuity, problems related to child birth by the procedure etc. The study should have a "control group" as well. To see if there is a significant difference between those who underwent FGM and those did that did not. If there is any difference and that difference is it positive or negative.
I don't just want someone to condemn a practice because he/she is not practicing it. When enough of such studies are done, the scientific results published, then make a movie or video CDs/DVD for people to watch and become educated about the issue. The study may reveal that there is not a significant difference between the EXPRIMENTAL GROUP AND CONTROL GROUP. A LONGITUDINAL STUDY IS ONE IN WHICH YOU FOLLOW THE SUBJECT BEFORE THE FGM, AFTER THE FGM FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: POLITICAL
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Date Posted: 11:00:51 10/15/07 ()
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I guess Mballu may disagree with you because her version is concetrated on sexual fantasies not health issues. I want to hear what she has to say on this good suggestion if she is not another rotten brick in the wall.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 00:31:25 10/15/07 ()
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"reduction of promiscuity"
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I am laughing, my friend did you mean to say that? What if MEN were the victims of a "cultural process" that reduces their promiscuity? Would you be in support of that? Who are we to advocate for a process one of the side effects of which is to "Reduce womens promiscuity". This is a crazy idea my friend. Now lest address the other issues you have raised. MY opposition to the FGM issue is purely on human rights grounds, health and female welfare grounds nothing else. There are no positives to the practice and as a mater of fact it has been shown that many women who have undergone the process are more prone to have episiotomies during child birth than women who have not gone through the process.
I am an african and I would like to protect that aspect of our culture which is unique, but not that which in my opinion is reflective of the low esteem with which we treat our women folk. I am not opposed to FGM because it is a western idea.
So what if our culture has always been that men are subjected to a certain process which hinders their ability to sexually express themselves, or in other manners affect them negatively should we in this modern age acept that?
My take is that we gain education so that we can reflect on our societies and find ways to make it conform to the modern age. The practice has been outlawed in many other countries in Africa. Is it that we in sierra leone do not have the political will to make drastic changes in our society. My solution as outlined below is simple. Go back and read it. It does not stop the process it only provides for an educated and informed decision on the part of initiatees and their signifiicant family members.
I fully support a culture that helps to shapegirls into women, not one that mutilates them under the worst non septic surgical conditions and attempts to justify it with culture. Culture shouldnt hurt if we can help it and this we can. It is a health issue and a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE. Sure we have had many "Stupid" Ministers who have advocated for the continuance of the process. This can only be attributed to a pandering to the ignorance of our people. Many of the initiatees do not have a say in the process and are initiated without theor consent. All I am saying is that there should be some sort of INFORMED CONSENT. Whats wrong with that?
Stay Blessed brother!
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 09:24:08 10/15/07 ()
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Alieu,
This Bondo issue has been an issue in Africa well before the Human right protocols were developed. I don't know whether you are aware of this; but let me say that in Sierra Leone, we have tribes that are not practicing it at all. There are tribes that do practice it. The tribes that practice it are in majority. The women even laugh at each other, when those who practice it refer to those is not practicing it as “Gborokas” The story goes deeper than that. So those who are not practicing are embarrassed sometimes when they are called "GBOROKAS"
As a matter of fact, those tribes that are not practicing it at all are in the fore front against FGM. You said that there have been studies to show problems related to childbirth because of FGM? I don't believe you at all. And don't tell me anything about the report or statements made to the Immigration, by some Asylum seekers, who have said that they ran away to seek asylum because part of their body was cut off. If any longitudinal studies have been done, show us the publications. That is why I said, to proof or disproof the assertions made, select experimental groups and control groups among different tribes and follow them for 20 years or so. Then interview them as they grow older and becoming parents about childbirth, sex etc. Then share their experiences under normal conditions and when looking for asylum or something else.
Alieu, you are making people to go too deep into things that are not necessary.
Have done a study that compared childbirth complications cases related to FGM and non FGM women? Sow me the study. When we want something in the Western world, coming from a third world country, we say all kinds of lies, just to get asylum or grants as an NGO with the notion of going back to fight against it or educate people. We do that to ourselves.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Wan Ten Kemeh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:00:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: kemeh@yahoo.com
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I wonder where you got the idea that Bundu actually reduces promiscuosity. As I was saying, that is the slavish type mentality that has been ingrained in africans by the white man. I am sure that you will not oppose male circumcision because it is been practiced in the western world. To justify it, they have come up with studies that shows that it is good for men because it originated in Israel and later practiced by so-called europeans who were converted to christianity. These same white prople have produced tons of reports (like the one they used to convince the world that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction) that On the other hand bundo or Sande which has been given the name FGM by the white world is bad just because it originated in africa. Please try to grow up. Tha fact that you are living in the western world which to me means that you have that same slavish mentality does not make you or them correct.
When the white man came to africa hundreds of years ago, they told our people that the Gods thay worship are false Gods and their owm Gods are the true ones. We swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Now there are more practising christians in the third world than are in the western world. In fact according to a report released by the Chirch of England few years ago, they have more problems convincing their children that there is a God than the ones they faced when the came to Africa years ago.
have you ever sat back and look at the things that are practiced by white people that are either considered as good or as signs of good upbringing, etiquette class. Have you ever questioned some of the cultural practices of white people. They take some of these so important that someone like you will find yourself in Sierra Leomne the minute you try to question them. You however sit in europe, america or wherever you are opposing the very things that distinguishes you from the rest of the world apart from the colour of your skin. Try to grow up or as Bob Marley said "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery".
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Tribal Marks
To: All
Date Posted: 03:16:00 10/15/07 ()
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Of course Colonialists and their Stooges justify that Africans were colonized inorder to civilize them.,,But where does the buck stop?...
After FGM maybe the next so called human rights issue put forth by outsiders to civilize us will be traditional tribal marks(tatoos) who knows?....
To me,the fact that Debeers or Tiffany profits more from Sierra Leone's diamonds trade than Sierra Leone or Sierra Leoneans is more of human rights issue than FGM.
So let's get our priority in order...en Leh God sorry for we all!
Oona Don Eat!
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Wan Ten Kemeh
To: All
Date Posted: 22:07:16 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: kemeh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Thabks a lot my brother. The advice you have given in your piece is well worth it. I m personally opposed to this Bundu or Sande issue but it is purely on health and emotional grounds. If however your advice is followed, then I see no reason why we cannot continue with it in africa. This idea that is ingrained in the pysch of africans that their cultures and traditions are wrong because tgey are not approved by western nations is wrong. We should not as we say in Krio (fodom na wata en turn fish) just to please the westerners. We should cling unto our culture and traditions because that what makes us africans.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 22:54:17 10/14/07 ()
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Thank you too my brother!
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: you sa be talk
To: All
Date Posted: 00:22:14 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
This is a woman. Why are you refering to Wan Ten Komot
as a man
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 08:51:16 10/15/07 ()
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I am sory if you are a lady.
Subject: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 19:45:47 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Brabanxx@aol.com
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Message:
Chez & Babob
You are in the noble company of HE John Leigh and myself. I attended the AA and I taught mathematics and science 79-83 before proceeding to the US. Please email me at Brabanxx@aol.com. Our school neath the trees upon the hillside is in dire need of help from her sons and daughters in the diaspora.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 04:50:46 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.34
Message:
Hey! You guys. I am an Acdemician old boy too. Don't just count me out.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 05:51:31 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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We aren't counting anyone out. Chez and me just made known the good works of Pa Omopeh Harding and we got an invite from Brabanxx.
By the way, what years were you in AA?
Esse Quam Videri!!!
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 13:39:23 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
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Message:
I was there from 72 - 81. Knew lots of folks. I was around during the days of Omope Harding and Mamy Williams (Typing). I was a senoir of Little John. The Ansuma Bangura (son of Bishop Bangura) was a classmate. Bona Maturi, Alusine Deen, Babatunde Wagie, Alfred Beaty, Unisa Bangura, Ones Walker and later in the sixth form, Kevin Williams, Alimamy Dura Turay, Abdul Ajiji Bah, Estha Adenuga, Estha Barley, Rosemany etc. were all classmates.
Esse Quam Videri!!!
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 19:49:38 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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UK5,
I think we're in the same group but you were two to three years ahead of me. Somewhere within those years, Ones Walker and Alfred Beatty were my classmates.
I remember Alusine Deen, he used to make us proud on SLBS TV. Do you recall the gameshow all top schools used to participate in? something like TIC-TAC-TOE / Cross-word.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 02:12:01 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.83
Message:
Oh really? Ones Walker has been the Accountant of the Sierra Leone Breweries (Wellington). Alfred Beaty is in the US. I met Alusine Deen in London in 1990. We had a good time together. Accuidently bumped into people like Clifford Richards and Bona Maturi. That was way back in 1990.
Well, I hope to extend the rap later.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 04:02:38 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
Brabanxx, I was at the UK AAA Thanksgiving. it was well attended and I was happy to see mammy Findley. The UK group is doing well and the sermon was what you tocuhed on - to give back to our young minds what we were given. Dedication to such objectives was also a key area touched.
We are behind the new exec here in the UK - I sure hope their determination will address the issues you raised.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: The guy next door
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Date Posted: 16:56:51 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
What a name Chez, Mamay Findly I believe Geography, ho about Mammy Fanucie, Johnson(literature) and my darling Mammy Yellow?
I am much younger, student # 1735....
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 19:38:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Now, you're bringing the good times back.
Miss Johnson (Literature) was my class teacher in Form 1. How about Mr. McRae (mathematics)? Or Kama (PE)
Do you remember Miss Nicolson who used to live up FBC? (virtually our whole class used to be infatuated with her). I met her some years back when I went to SL for vacation. The woman doesn't get old and she's still elegant. I chatted her up and she didn't recognise that I was her past student, so I joked that I would have proposed marriage right now if she wasn't married then she laughed all the way.
Mammy Yellow was great, and she commanded respect from everyone.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 14:51:22 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.59
Message:
Then I must know you. All the names of teachers above taught me too. There was 'Okala' who later taught me maths in Form 3. I was surprised one day on my way home, watching from a Poda Poda, I saw Mr. McRae kissing 'Okala'. They have just wedded in a Church [don't know the name], exactly opposite Benz Garage, Blackhall Road. Can you imagine the surprise, seeing my two teachers kissing? Thank God it was a wedding!
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 01:51:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bra Bankie,
I'll get back to albertacademy@yahoogroups.com.
I've not peeped in for ages, but I'll see what's up.
I finished my 5th form at AA in 1980, but I can't remember you. Mammy Bailor was still Vice Pricipal. Mr. Kawa, Sellu (the bat) et al were still there.
Anyway, I'll touch base and send email at the addie stated above.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: Pa Sorie
To: All
Date Posted: 19:54:05 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
student No. 13317.....
Subject: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 19:31:19 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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Message:
During the campaign I told members of the APC in the USA that President Ernest Koroma has no respect and trust in any of them. But my brothers and sisters in the APC north America did not believe me.
I encourage members of the APC N/AMERICA region to look at the composition of Mr. Koroma's cabinet and tell me how many people he nominated from this region?
Please, do not tell me about Alhaji Abu Bakarr Jalloh because he has moved to Sierra Leone a long time ago.
Mr. Koroma does not appreciate your financial and moral contributions to his success.
I know for a fact that 65% of the money spent by the APC came from the USA chapter.
Mr.Charles Margai will never forget that most of the money his party(PMDC) used came from his USA chapter that is why he nominated three of his members for ministerial appointments.
I will like members of the APC N/America region to keep in their minds that any other position(deputy minister, ambassador, head or member of a board) given to them is lesser in rank and status to the position of minister.
A huge number of your members left the USA(their jobs and families), went to Sierra Leone helped the party win the elections but when the time for the APC to pay them back came, they were ignored. I am sure that Mr. Koroma promised members of the APC N/America some positions.
It is my understanding that the APC-N/America is organizing a victory dance on Oct.20th, 2007 in Maryland and all the proceeds will to go the Mr.Ernest Koroma when he comes the USA, very soon. It is interesting to know that you guys want to thank him(Mr. Koroma) for disrespecting your region.
This is the true APC- the party of ungrateful leaders.
SHAME ON ALL MEMBERS OF THE APC NORTH AMERICA FOR SUPPORTING A PARTY THAT WILL NEVER BE THANKFUL TO THEM.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 22:41:35 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Mr Bangura,
I am going to be very nice to you and tell you to please be quiet and fast again another thirty days and ask for God's forgiveness. You spew quranic phrases and quote suras like an ascetic Imam, whlle your heart smokes with malice and atrocious ill will to your fellow man. You pray five times a day and yet take pleasure in the misery of others. I am not a member of the APC franchise in North America and yet I find your glee at what you believe to be the misfortune of others, wretched, childish and absurd. Not everyone expects to be named a minister as a result of their contributions. Taking part in the democratic process that kicked out a corrupt cabal is reward enough. For many patriots, an electrified, job-creating, economy-expanding, safe, peaceful and democratic Sierra Leone is sweeter than any personal aggrandizement. Please readjust your patriotism to altruism, sir.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 21:17:56 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Brabanxx@aol.com
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Message:
Mr. Bangura I beg to differ with you on your characterization of HE EBK. In as much as it is true that the spoils are for the victor,in a situation like this, one should not expect the president to just appoint people because of their financial contributions alone. There are certain constitutional requirements that precluded members from the diaspora to be nominated to ministerial positions.One of which is that ministers and deputies should be registered voters. In one of my earlier posts I drew your attention to the fact that the constitution also precludes Mr. Margai from becoming a minister.
Twenty people from the the US went for symbols and sixteen were awarded. I don't think that was a bad representation considering the amount of people that were "home based." Most of the people in North America came into the political scene after the camp was loaded with home based die-hards. You will also agree with me Mr. Bangura that if the cabinet were filled with APC from the diaspora,you would have been the first one to cry foul-the cabinet was bought and sold by the APC in the diaspora. In the USA not all of the contributors to a political campaign get what they want. This is also true for Sierra Leone. At this point I will advise all APC North America members to take heart. Wata way nar for you e nor go run pass you.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 02:38:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
I think Alpha Saidu is a mischief maker. Firstly, has anyone complained to him about not being appointed to the cabinet? This is a very unintellegent glee. The APC, unlike the SLPP, is by far pro diasporas and knows how to look after its supporters. In contrast, the SLPP is anti -diaspora and needlessly practiced the politics of appeasement to the detriment of their own support base. The APC awarded the party symbols to 16 diasporean. The SLPP did not award symbol to a diasporean in the just concluded election. Correct me if i am wrong. One Kailahun lady in USA who made substantial contribution in community development in kailahun was a better candidate, but was fouled out by Dr Sama Banya in fauour of his home bases relative. I know several diasporeans who tried to secure the SLPP party symbols in kenema district but were all rebuffed. Alpha, you being a party faithful should be rather concerned with such didparaties.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:28:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear Mr. nico:
I thoroughly agree with you that the New APC under President Koroma is pro-Diasporan while the defeated SLPP appeared anti-Diasporan.
I know this from intimate personal knowledge as I was an intended victim.
First, APC awarded its red rising-sun election logo to approximately 21 Diasporans from both North America and Europe - all of whom won and are sitting in parliament today. One unfortunately died in a road
accident with the late Mr. Kaloko.
SLPP, on the other hand, awarded its palmtree symbol to only one Diasporan, a lady, Ms. Kowa, who won in Bumpeh, Bo District. But that is not all.
In the unreasonable and crooked events leading up to the notorious, gangster-like SLPP Makeni ConBention in September 2005, the SLPP-NEC that conducted that rouge affair had at its first meeting in four yearts in July 2005 at the Bank of Sierra Leone Complex at Kingtom, passed an anti-Diasporan resolution to bar non-resident party members(i.e.Diasporans)from holding certain high party positions(including the party leader, party chairman, secretary-general and similar positions), until they have returned home and established residence there for up to at least five years.
However, this resolution requires a second passing and by a subsequent party NEC. This never occurred.
And at one-or-two campaign stops in the provinces that I attended, I heard speakers demanding from the floor that no non-resident member should be given the party symbol to contest parliamentary seats because only those at home are with the people. But this mentality is changing and no one was denied the palmtree symbol merely because of his diasporan status. In fact, a Diasporan nearly won the palmtree symbol for the parliamentary seat in Sumbuya, Bo District.
Let's hope that all our leaders and our people will see the immense value of including all SLeoneans equally in the huge task of bringing sustainable progress to our country. - JL
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: poorman
To: All
Date Posted: 21:11:04 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: manso@yahoo.com
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Message:
SAIDU,1.WE NOR TO TEGLOMA 2 WE NOR PUT WE KUPUR FOR LEH E GEE WE POSITION 3 WAY SALEONE BETEH WE GO APPY 4 WE NOR DEA PLAN FOR BEAT WE YESTERDAY EN TEDAY LEADER DEM 5 USE DIS MOT MOT FOR MAK YOU BRODER DEN NOR BEAT WE EX PRESIDENT.6 WAYTIN HAPPEN WIT DE SPORT EN DIPLOMATIC PASSPORT BLUFF.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 20:39:34 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
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I don't know what may or may not have been promised, but it would be impossible for the president to repay all of his supporters with positions. The greatest way he can "pay back" those who supported him is by doing a good job and not betraying their confidence by not being a good steward over the countries resources.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Looking in
To: All
Date Posted: 20:12:10 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: nc-76-0-177-82.dhcp.embarqhsd.net at 76.0.177.82
Message:
The emphasis you place on who was given prime positions is sad. All Sierra Leoneans are in the position to contribute to their country and to contribure well. Positive politics is a good thing. If you have beef with your President, then support your party of choice, democratically, in the next election.
Subject: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 19:03:24 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
SEE THE ANSWER AND ANALYSIS ON THE WEBSITE PROVIDED BELOW: http://www.OneSaloneNews.com
Subject: Re: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 01:51:48 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.106
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Let's assume that what EBK term as a 'government of national unity' is not what we all had in mind. The magnitude of expectation may have been hyped. Perhaps, the term may have its rightful meaning when it comes to the distribution of dupty ministerial positons. But let's face it, what contibution did the SLPP made in APC election victory? It will portray some kind of deficiency in EBK's self confidence and command of leadership to even consider an unnecessary overture as rewarding the SLPP with ministerial positions as many of its folks were hoping.Rewarding them for what? For 'OPINKOL' politics! Bo Duya! It's winner takes all, remeber!
Subject: Re: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:54:36 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
EBK three foot you? You haven't seen nada... You just begin complain...You were the same dude calling the SLPP a tribalistic Party. In the APC proposed cabinet: there is no Easterner, and one southerner...
See how many people have lost their jobs already to Norterners is Freetown.
Subject: Re: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 22:54:19 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
The statistical tribal distribution of the population at large and that within the parties cannot allow for the balance some expected.
Besides, it does not matter who is minister and who is not. It is a matter of who will change the bottomline.
I don't care if you are a high school dropout or from the minority Loko tribe.
Subject: ATITI DA DA DA MAO MAO OH
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 18:50:04 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ewkY1JBTOgE
Celebrating our beautiful culture.
Subject: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Awareness Times
To: All
Date Posted: 18:45:33 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 196.44.99.114
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Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher at Lungi
By Awareness Times
Oct 14, 2007, 23:07
The Editor of Cocorioko is hereby being kindly asked to IMMEDIATELY remove the article he has placed on his front page which said article is completely full of inaccuracies and misquotations concerning the friendly meeting between the Publisher of this newspaper and Mr. Alex Mansaray at Lungi Airport two days ago. It will also do that editor well as a self-professed Man of God, to reflect on his sustained publication of a wicked litany of lies against the Publisher of this newspaper who has, to her deep credit, mostly ignored his penchance for publishing dangerous, hate-filled and inciteful false articles against her person.
Alex Mansaray is a gentleman who was meeting Awareness Times Publisher for the second time. The first time was during a visit to one of her Internet Cafes during which they had a nice rapport.
"The only reference I made to Alex Mansaray about Cocorioko at Lungi Airport, was to describe it as a 'lie-lie' newspaper that has sought times without number to demean me in the eyes of the public! I never spoke about their role in the APC let alone congratulated Cocorioko for its role in the just ended elections during which period he published unprintable LIES about me and my personal life. LIES, which I carefully ignored. I have bitten my tongue and placed my trust in God just as I have done all these years when Cocorioko released ceaseless lies against me to the public domain," Sylvia Blyden asserts.
If the Cocorioko Editor does not know it, THERE IS A GOD IN THIS WORLD and the Almighty's wrath, when he exercises it, against deserving people like the Cocorioko Editor, is a thing to be feared.
© Copyright by Awareness Times Newspaper in Freetown, Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Cocorioko's Publication
To: All
Date Posted: 18:49:53 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 196.44.99.114
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The Editor of Cocorioko , Rev. Wilfred Leeroy Kabs-Kanu, certifies before the Almighty God, that everything written in this article is a complete and correct rendition of the report made to COCORIOKO by the CEO , Mr. Alex Mansaray . Mr. Mansaray asked that it be published. As he always does, the Editor asked Mr. Mansaray TWICE whether he should publish the article .Each time, Mr. Mansaray said "Oh , yes , go ahead. That was exactly what transpired .She even took pictures of us ". There are other aspects of the story that we did not publish because the Editor deemed it PRIVILEDGED CONVERSATION .
Until Alex Mansaray calls to say that we should remove it, we will not adhere to the threats by the AWARENESS TIMES . Miss Blyden should contact Mr. Mansaray , who was quoting her , not COCORIOKO. The Editor has known Alex Mansaray for years and he is not the type that will fabricate such a story. We , his friends, often taunt Alex that he is one man who does not "Crack his teeth" to say anything because he is not afraid of people. Alex always says it bluntly as it is, often even at his own detriment . The Editor consulted with Board Chairman before publishing this article and Foday Mansaray too gave the go-ahead.
AWARENESS TIMES PUBLISHER ACKNOWLEDGED COCORIOKO'S ROLE IN THE LAST ELECTIONS : SAYS CEO ALEX MANSARAY
The Chief Executive Officer of COCORIOKO , Mr. Alex Mansaray , said today that a most unlikely source acknowledged that Cocorioko did a good job during the just-ended Presidential Elections. The source is the AWARENESS TIMES PUBLISHER, DR. SYLVIA BLYDEN.
Mr. Mansaray made the statement while informing other executives of COCORIOKO that he has assured the Publisher of Awareness Times, Dr.Sylvia Blyden that the COCORIOKO newspaper does not have any vendetta against her or any citizen of the Republic of Sierra Leone .Mr. Mansaray said certain things however went wrong that should be resolved and set right
The two newspaper executives had a chance meeting at Lungi International Airport on Friday .Dr. Blyden was said to be on her way to Ghana and Mr. Alex Mansaray, who is also Proprietor of the Duty Free Shop at the airport, was in the company of the All People's Congress ( APC ) Secretary General , Mr. Victor Foh and party official, Mr. Bash Kamara at the VIP Lounge of the airport. Mr. Foh was travelling to Burkina Faso to attend that country's party celebrations.
Dr.Blyden moved over and greeted all of them and congratulated them for the recent APC victory. During their discussions later , Mr. Mansaray brought the topic of the three-year-old misunderstanding between the Awreness Times Publisher and Cocorioko Editor, Rev. Wilfred Kabs-Kanu and the matter of the spoofing of the Cocorioko Forum.
Dr. Blyden denied spoofing the COCORIOKO FORUM and said that the allegation was an attempt by the COCORIOKO Editor to besmear her,
Mr. Alex Mansaray then told the publisher that the Cocorioko Editor and the newspaper had no vendetta against her or any citizen of the Republic of Sierra Leone. The paper criticises people in the interest of the nation , not out of vendettas. .He said that the COCORIOKO Editor is a Minister of the gospel and has assured him many times that he has no evil intent towards the publisher. Mr. Foh agreed with Mr. Mansaray that the Editor was a "religious man" and a gentleman .Mr. Mansaray stated that something however went wrong and this has to be resolved and set right.
The Awareness Times Publisher too assured Mr. Mansaray that she had nothing against the Cocorioko Editor or his newspaper..
Dr.Blyden said that Cocorioko did a good job in the recent APC victory .She congratulated the paper's CEO for a job well done. in helping the APC win the election.
The Editor of Cocorioko and the paper's Board Chairman, Mr.Foday Mansaray , were briefed by Alex Mansaray about the chance meeting between him and and the Awareness Times Publisher, Dr.Sylvia Blyden at Lungi Airport
MEANWHILE, Mr. Alex Mansaray has called on APC supporters, especially those in the diaspora to be patient with the government .He said that the cabinet announced by the President , Mr.Ernest Koroma, truly reflected the APC and everybody will have access to the power structure .
Also , Mr. Foday Mansaray agreed with Alex Mansaray that "All of us " have to be patient with the new government under these difficult circumstances. The President, he said, had many problems when he looked at the list of qualified persons for positions.. SEE TOMORROW'S ISSUE FOR MORE OF FODAY MANSARAY'S STATEMENT. Web site designed & hosted by Leeroy Wilfred Kabs-Kanu © 2007 at Homestead™
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Man of Honor
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:51 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 208.41.8.154
Message:
Ehmm, kabs-Kanu, I am sure you should know better. In america, you could be sued for Libel if Sylvia insists that she didnt make those statements. Just because your publisher/owner/CEO said so, does not imply that you have the right to publish something about somebody without first verifying/crosschecking with that individual.I would have first contacted Sylvia before going to press. Mind you, you, Alex etc are all part of cocorioko. Therefore, there is no independent individual to authnticate your assertions. I will suggest that you apologise to her or make a disclaimer. This is what a good journalist will do. Please dont ban me for disagreeing with you.
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Transmission Errors
To: All
Date Posted: 19:03:58 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 196.44.99.114
Message:
Third Party Recounts can have transmission errors.
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Not always
To: All
Date Posted: 19:24:39 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253
Message:
If Sylvia praised Cocorioko's role, there is no transmission problem. You either praise or blame. Certain issues are nay or yay.
Subject: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: N'tara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:38:31 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
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A lot of failures can be attributed to Tejan Kabba for the past 11 years rule of Sierra Leone. That is fact and part of history. Nonetheless, nobody can take away from him the fact that he is one of African heads of state, who did not tinker with the constitution to keep himself in power. He could have done that some years back if he was planning to stay in power after his two terms, but didn't. Look at Sitka Steven, Yayah Jameh, Hugo Chavez, Robert M. of Zimbabwe and many more who tinkers with the constitution just to stay in power till their death.
If you don't have right atmosphere and infrastructure for democracy in the country, such election will never be conducted.
So deserve to be praised for that if nothing else. I think that he deserves to be praised for establishing NASSIST, NRA and may be NACSA.
I hope that the new government will improve these institutions and create new ones.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 22:42:28 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
Kabbah had no way to tamper with the constitution nor extend his stay. Sierra Leone is a very conscious nation today. We eye done open.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 23:37:40 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
Message:
Response to your points:
1."That does not hide the fact that his government was extremely corrupt...”
Response: Nobody is objecting the corruption issue. We know that and a lot have been said about it. But he also deserves credit for not tinkering with the constitution to stay in power. Many other presidents have done it in the past and some are still doing it. Look at Lansana Conteh in Guinea. How long has he been president?
2. "NASSIT, NRA, NACSA what difference have these organizations made to the life of the average Sierra Leone apart from lining up the pockets of the various heads and their cronies.
Response: Yes some people are benefiting from it right now. Some citizens that have reached the age of retirement are receiving the benefit. Infact some people who never contributed to the fund are benefiting from it. Even parents of high level APC members have benefited and are still benefiting from it. I don't have to name names.
3. Even if Kabbah wanted to cling on to power Berewa would have prevented him from doing so.
Response: That is hard to believe. Let us give him credit that he did not try to do so at all. Many other leaders have done that and yet some are still doing it now and yet nothing is happening. Look at what Obasajo did to his VP and how the election went down in Nigeria. Let us talk about his short falls as well as his strength.
4. The man wanted power so bad that he could taste it...Babu Yie OH :-)
Response: What is your proof? Is that just your opinion?
5. Kabbah had no way to tamper with the constitution nor extend his stay.
Response: There are a lot of ways; he did not just try one because, he was not interested.
6. Sierra Leone is a very conscious nation today. We eye done open.
Response: I know that we are a conscious nation today. Yet still there are many more conscious nations where the leader are so much power conscious, that they are doing everything in their power to keep themselves in power. Kabba did not just try to do that. Give him that credit.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: David Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:40:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: saloneloudmouth@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe00195b4bf214-cm001a667071fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com at 99.227.232.7
Message:
NRA is a total scam. When did you visit SL last. Ask me, I can tell you every day tale of NRA pocketing in millios of leones - with proof of names.
And who told you NASSIT pays retirement benefits. NAME JUST ONE PERSON. As per their law, the first set of pensioners will commence only from 2010. Yes Ex Pr. Kabbah used NASSIT to help and bale out his pal Sam King by asking NASSIT to take a share in his doomed hotel. He tried the same with DATATEL but Rokel Bank stopped it. Dont even try in the least to praise Kabbah or his government.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 01:01:36 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-233-244-59.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.233.244.59
Message:
Since 2003 I have been visiting Sierra Leone every year. I normally visit for 2 months (March and April) each year. The corruption is undeniable!!! And as someone who has planned to go back home in 2009 to resettle, I wasn’t happy overall. As a potential business man, I know the hurdles, red tapes, bureaucracies and corruptions one has to go through to establish a business. No help at all.
However, what I am pointing out is that these institutions have been created. A patriotic and visionary leader can improve these institutions and make them very productive for the benefit of the country.
The main point I stressed is that with all the corrupt practices, yet HE DID NOT TINKER WITH THE CONSTITUTIN TO KEEP HIMSELF IN POWER.
As for NASSIST, you will get the fact later. But I know that some people who are 60 years plus are receiving some benefit right now.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 19:13:09 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 62.189.241.185
Message:
That does not hide the fact that his govenment was extremely corrupt.. NASSIT, NRA, NACSA what difference have these organisations made to the life of the average Sierra Leone apart from lining up the pockets of the various heads and their cronies. Even if Kabbah wanted to cling on to power Berewa would have prevented him from doing so. The man wanted power so bad that he could taste it...Babu Yie OH :-)
Besides the eyes of the world were on Kabbah so he could not have even dreamed of hanging on after his evident catastrophic failure.
Subject: Solo B CARELESS TALK NOR DAE PAY!!!!
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:50 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 62.189.241.185
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For those of us who were present a couple of years ago when Solo B was addressing some members of the Sa. Leone community in London he wrecklessly uttered that those who were not prepared to go back to Sa. Leone would languish here; whilst completely ignoring protestations about the lack of electricty and running water. In a similar gathering in Ohio a young lady commented on the filthy state of Freetown and asked what the government was doing about it. Solo B's reply was 'WE ARE NOT CLEANERS' A very iresponsible reply from someone aspiring to be president. The moral of the story is that IF YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO SAY; SAY NOTHING.
Subject: Jebbor Sherrington - Leone Stars Coach Sacked
From: freetong pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 14:42:05 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 80-45-43-34.static.dsl.as9105.com at 80.45.43.34
Message:
Sierra Leone coach John Jebbor Sherington and his entire technical staff have been relieved of their duties with immediate effect.
The sackings came two days after the Leone Stars lost to Benin in their final Nations Cup qualifying match on Friday.
Read more
http://www.salonepeople.com/
Subject: Re: Jebbor Sherrington - Leone Stars Coach Sacked
From: GEORGE S. WILSON
To: All
Date Posted: 08:12:58 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: samtheman1957@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-166-138-63.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.166.138.63
Message:
I wellcome the new minister of sports,DR,MINKAILU BAH.I have been praying that we know who will be our next sports minister,because of that south africa worldcup qualifying matches.SIERRA LEONE can make it to SOUTH AFRICA if the new bomber can work with good men and women.MR.MINISTER,IF YOU CAN TAKE SIERRA LEONE TO SOUTH AFRICA,YOU WILL GO DOWN IN THE GOOD BOOK OF ALL SIERRA LEONEANS.
Subject: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Nar Me
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:58 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: the newsletter@hotmail.com
Entered From: amontsouris-152-1-27-15.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr at 82.123.93.15
Message:
"Mr. Corruption" is definitely the killer.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 22:48:50 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
Tejan Kabbah and Co; for the execution of Kullah Samba, Max Kanga and all those who were merely required by thier station of duty to serve a military government that kicked him out.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 15:15:01 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 62.189.241.185
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TEJAN KABBAH for grossly letting the people of Sierra Leone down. For ignoring widespread corruption in his government and neglecting the needy citizens of the country. If he has any conscience he will have the decency to beg the people for forgiveness.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: DEMOCRAT
To: All
Date Posted: 18:07:03 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.20
Message:
Tejan Kabbah has been named by the APC "SIerra Leone's father of democracy". A man who has retired twice. Once from the United Nations as UNDP's Director of Management Services with a very fat pension for life and just recently as a rare breed of Sierra Leone's democratically elected president for two terms.
Those who the Almighty Himself has blessed no mortal can pull down. Kabbah is now part of Sierra Leone's history. If e hart u, go drink gbamgba!
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 20:32:46 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac0ea45.bb.sky.com at 90.192.234.69
Message:
Lets be very mature about this my friend; I could care less about how many times he has retired; that still does not hide the fact that he let the country down through poor management and thats why the people have spoken and booted him and his cronies out. And if you think its over you wait till the special court lay their hands on him we would see if he has indeed been blessed by the Almighty.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: DEMOCRAT
To: All
Date Posted: 17:56:38 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.20
Message:
Tejan Kabbah was not booted out. He successfully served two terms as president. Berewa just didn't click as there was need for generational change and the APC implemented a better campaign strategy.
When George Bush Snr lost to Bill Clinton that wasn't Reagan that got booted by Americans or Al Gore's losing to President Bush meant a 'kita' for Clinton. No!
Your wish to see Kabbah face the Special Court is another fairy tale. The court has already indicted those it believes bear the greatest responsibility for crimes commited during the rebel war. Kabbah was not among that class and there is certainly no indication that the court will open any new indictments. In fact it cannot under the circumstance and this makes your wish for Kabbah a mirage.
Let's get this straight: leaders don't get everything right. Reagan did not, Margaret Thatcher didn't, not even Bill Clinton did, and of course Kwame Nkrumah certainly did not get everything right. Sometimes they achieve, on other issues they don't. Kabbah made a huge success by ending a war he had inherited and brought about peace to Sierra Leone after a decade of cataclysmic and horrendous fighting among sierra Leoneans. Tell me he did not succeed on that score! When he came to power by 1996 government was neither visible nor present in much of the country. During his tenure government became present everywhere in the country.
At the time he came to power the situation in sierra leone was in such an abysmal state that efforts to lift it can only be appreciated if you understood from what depths the country had emerged.
The manner in which the just-ended elections was managed is due not to any other person's ability but due largely to the kind of political climate cultivated by Kabbah's leadership. In modern day african political context Kabbah came way before his time. He is examplary.
About the lives of politicians and how they get assessed and evaluated, this is deja vu. All politicians ( I mean political leaders of Kabbah's stature) end in failure. But it is the difference they make in the lives of the people they lead that matters. Tell me that Kabbah made no difference in the lives of Sierra Leoneans during his tenure.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 20:17:31 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac0eaad.bb.sky.com at 90.192.234.173
Message:
Kabbah by no means ended the war. Tony Blair ended the war in Sa. Leone; if not for his intervention I would hate to think what would have become of our beloved nation. I know Kabbah would like to take credit for ending the war and one day he will wake up and realise he is dreaming. If the likes of Late Hinga Norman were not determined enough Kabbah would have stayed in Guinea and not bothered to come back.
In terms of Kabbah making a difference in the lives of the ones he led you only have to poll 10 random people on the streets of Freetown and if you are honest enough if I challenge you to publish the results on this forum.
Subject: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 13:14:33 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.20
Message:
My fellow compatriots, I am comming to you from Sierra Leone, the home base.
I have been here since last thursday observing Sierra Leone and checking out important personalities in the APC government. Part of my reason for comming here is to be present at the start of things and to associate with the right personalities so that when I retire in one and half years and finaly return home it would generally be a smooth sailing for me.
I was also looking at the prospect of serving in the new government but was late to arrive. Any way, I met one on one with the President and have pictures for verification. I informed him that if he needs me I will cut short my stay and return home expeditously.
He gave me his word and that is all I need.
Serving as a Minister is not the only way to serve Sierra Leone. I will offer my service to the government at any time in what ever capacity as long as it is ready and genuinely committed to positive development.
I believe that the government of Sierra Leone under his excellency Ernest Koroma is committed and it has been quick to show signs as such.
I was present at Alpha Khans office when he escorted delegates back to lungi who together with the President inspected Sierra Leone's electrical equipments.
The President means business and he is waisting no time to implement major aspects of his plan including the provision of adequate electric supply.
It is no brainer to conclude that the standard of living and social conditions would be tremendously helped when good electric supply is available in the country.
The President would win even the hearts and minds of diehard SLPP supporters when he would have accomplished his plans.
The mood is excellent in Freetown and business is booming as usual.
I am on an observer mission and exploring the business environment. You do not need a lot of money here to do business. But you need discipline and some knowledge of record keeping and of course locat1on is key.
For those of you planning to do business in Sierra Leone this is the right time to come. When we would have had good electric supply the cost of doing business would be lower. Instead of generators and huge expenditures on gasoline we would have monthly electric bills at far lower cost.
Sierra Leoneans are survivalists. Everywhere you go you will find businesses of some sort. There are carpenters making furnitures including living room sets and china cabinets, welders and traders all over. They use labor intensive methods and crude instruments to do their job.
But the City in general is one hub of a mess and it is overpopulated.
It is hoped that with electricity provided by Bumbuna Power station in the future and a succesful agricultural development scheme migrants would find it attractive to return home.
I have just conpleted an artricle titled 'STRATEGIC DECISION MAKING AND TYPYA BUDGETING FOR INNOVATION IN AGRICULTURE'. I will publish it in two parts on 'We Yone Press' starting tommorrow. This is one of my contribution to the government. I am responding to Ernest Koroma's call for ideas.
You too can make a difference if you want. This is the time for all Sierra Leoneans to come together and pull together resources for positive development.
Dont be a nobody. Participate in nation building in what ever way you can and you or your children will surely reap the benefit.
God bless.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 13:51:24 10/14/07 ()
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Alie Formeh,
You have a fan in me. Your honesty is really a blast of fresh air. While some people will lie about seeking a job, you do not beat about the bush or resort to subterfuge. You state your true intentions, because you only have altruistism in your heart for your country. May you be called upon to render your service to country either in govt or business.
Pray tell the Prez and his inner circle, that they can help clean the filth in Freetown by employing the many unemployed youths milling aroumd Freetown to clean up the garbage and gutters. That act alone will ensure a cleaner city and a cash-happy youth in time for Christmas.
We are glad that the President is already clapping on the electricity business. Keep up the good work in informing us.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 15:49:13 10/14/07 ()
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Mammy Blessings , As I told you yesterday , before ALI Formeh's honest assessment. If you visit Sierra Leone, you will see that business is booming. The shops are full with goods. This has to do with the positive climate created by the former SLPP. Prosperity would trickle down to the poor masses from the entrepreneurs.
The govt is not going to solve the nation's problems solely. All they can do is to create a conducive society in which individuals can release their talents without fear of repression. Just look at the development the Sierra Leone music industry over the past five years.
I hope the APC/PMDC can allow democracy and a positive business environment. Unfortunately most of the people in diaspora criticising SLPP had not been to Sierra Leone in a while to see the changes that took place.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 17:13:29 10/14/07 ()
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I'm obviously not going to question your strong support for SLPP, but I would say your opinion on booming business due to SLPP positive climate they created.
My friend, I travelled to Sierra Leone twice every year to start with and no the business culture have always been there it was never the work of your incompetent SLPP. Can you remember during the peaceful days? when there was business boom, it was evident everywhere you go in Sierra Leone that business was the sole biggest employer of the average Sierra Leonean.
Most of your assessments and others were limited only in the capital Freetown.
I wish during the time before the war you were priviledged to visit the provincial cities so you could have being the judge to this that during the past ten years, business slowed down.
The booming business you're seeing now is only limited in the capital.
So cut that crap of SLPP creating a climate for business.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 20:48:25 10/14/07 ()
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you are right, the comments are based on my visit to Freetown in July and unfortunately I did not get the chance to go the provinces. I know you hate to give SLPP any credit but it was under their watch that peace was obtained. This fragile peace has allowed businesspeople to invest, mainly foreigners and foreign based Sierra Leoneans.Finally under their watch there was a democratically held election in which the opposition won both houses. This only augurs well for potential investment in Sierra Leone.
Hate them or not under SLPP peace was acheived and democracy maintained. It's up to APC to continue the good work.
Sierra Leoneans are entrepreneurs but the govt has to create a fertile environment in which sierra leonean entrepreneurs can flourish.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 15:02:34 10/15/07 ()
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It's true I hate to give SLPP credit that's because they badly betrayed my trust and the peace we are enjoying today was achieved during the SLPP rule. But the you'll agree with me now or later that peace was already due after the rebels and the breakaway SLA realised that the west is strongly opposed to their inhumane tactics and that there was no prospect for them to assume power, then they decided to accept the offer of a peace deal with government.
So the peace could have been achieved by any government at that time. It's not a miracle work by the SLPP.
In the issue of free and fair elections, well you know what, they had no choice but to allow this decision to take place. After their their disgraceful handling of the country with no care or respect for the people they know any attempt to stop changes taking place could spell untold desaster knowing that they've being hated by the masses.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: ITK
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Date Posted: 13:48:03 10/14/07 ()
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Thank you AFK:
I was signing off to head to church when I saw your inspirational posting.
I will surely have you, the President and our people back home in my prayers.
I wish there were more postings like yours on the forum. Don't know if you are a member or supporter of any party, but it is clear that you put country above party affiliation. I happen to support the Opposition party, but consider Ernest Koroma my President and his government my government. I would even serve(as you hoped to do) this government because by doing so I would be contributing in some way to the welfare of my country.
Let this serve as an appeal to all of us on this forum to put partisanship aside and strive to do whatever we can to help the government succeed in its national agenda. If the government so succeeds we all profit because our individual and collective interests are inextricably linked to the nation.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Sanfa
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Date Posted: 15:50:49 10/14/07 ()
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Alie is a supporter and in fact the son of an ex-APC minister in the 70's, Late Formeh Kamara minister of labour. I admired him for his honesty.
Subject: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: Borbor- Leon
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Date Posted: 11:42:29 10/14/07 ()
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Haven lived and worked in most parts of Sierra Leone and in few countries in the diaspora, I always find it challenging to get my head round the assumption that- are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough? Knowledge gained from my experience and discussions held with various individuals have still fall short to provide me with the answer to this conspiracy.
The following are my assumptions-------
We've got problems with identity- we like to re- create ourselves to somebody or something else. Majority of Sierra Leoneans have been misled or brain washed by the few educated and previleged class.
Most Sierra Leoneans are selfish and greedy.
It has to do with our culture- paternalism, nepotism etc.
Sierra Leoneans prefer to work with individuals from other nationalities than his/ her country person- this assumption has been proven by many individuals I have spoken to in both Sierra Leone and in the diaspora.
What do you think? Is this assumption right or wrong?
Subject: Re: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: ITK
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Date Posted: 13:05:45 10/14/07 ()
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Your first assumption captures the problem: Sierra Leoneans do not have a sufficiently strong sense of national idenity. Many of our problems-- some of which you list (both collecive and individual) flow from this anomaly.
In a nutshell, Sierra Leone has yet to evolve into a viable "national society". The good thing, there are clear resons why, so the solutions are not impossible to find. (I have read ahead, and Alieu Iscandri has come up with a few that address this issue). The key is not only the necessary political will, but the loyalty of the political elite and active participation of the people in what I will refere to as "building the nation".
Thanks for your views; they are on target.
Subject: Re: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 12:59:20 10/14/07 ()
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This is a subject I have grappled with for years. First off, I believe that Sierra Leoneans are incredibly patriotic, fiercely proud of their country and of their national heritage. Most Sierra Leoneans I know identify as Sierra Leoneans first, before their specific tribe. That being said, there are a number of factors that would make us appear unpatriotic. I will try to tackle them one at a time:
(a) Hospitality Culture - Most of our indegenous cultures put a high premium on welcoming "strangers". In my many visits to the provinces, I found this trait across all regions, sometimes to the point of embarrassment where people would give up the choiciest pieces of meat, palm-wine, even their own beds for the visitor. And back then, it was done with no expectation of a reward. It was just how people believed a visitor should be treated. In our mordern world, this deference to "strangers/visitors" has translated to how we treat "foreigners".
(b) Indegenous leadership culture - Our indegenous system of government gave absolute power to the chiefs and their families. In some cultures, the chief was a almost at par with the deity. Not unlike England, power was heriditary and absolute. With no revolutionary change in representation prior to colonial rule, the new colonial masters were simply regarded as "white" chiefs with absolute power and commanding the respect and homage of the masses. I will come back to how this impacted our sense of patriotism further in this analysis.
(c) Colonialism and missionaries - Enough has been said about the European colonial policy of divide and rule. It was not unique to Sierra Leone and its effects are still being felt all over Africa in senseless civil wars derived from forcing people to live within national boundaries drawn in Europe. A more subtle effect was the influence of the missionaries who made it their business to give young children so-called "christian" names, to replace their indegenous african names for reasons I still fail to comprehend. To this day, visa and passport application forms in Sierra Leone still ask for a "christian" name. The point here is that those with "christian" names began to achieve a higher status in the communities because they were perceived to be closer to God and the missionaries.
(d) Colonial administration and the influence of the krios - One of the factors that compounded the effects of colonialism in Sierra Leone was the resettlement of freed slaves in Freetown. As colonial rule began to fall out of favor in the mid 1930's the British colonial administrators had a ready made cadre of africans to hand over government responsibilities to. The krios were considered by the Brits to be "our guys" in Sierra Leone and indeed krios were sent to Gambia, Ghana and Nigeria as administrators. The masses viewed the krios as being interchangeable with the white leadership class (especially with their english names, mode of dress, and relative prosperity)and therefore deserving of the respect typically accorded to chiefs. Again, what we see happening here is the elevation of non-indegenes above indegenes reinforcing the image that a stranger/foreigner provides better quality leadership. That the krios subsequently squandered and abused this relationship is a whole other story.
(e) The nationalization/indegenization of Sierra Leone political landscape - Post colonization, the white men had gone, their krio proteges had been marginalized, and the indegenes were in power. Neither the governors, nor the governed could distinguish between a functional democracy and a traditional fiefdom. All praise and honor went to the president (beginning with Siaka Stevens). He was, essentially, the Queen of England. His portrait appeared everywhere, bank notes, coins, stamps, you name it. The machiavellian Stevens exploited tribal sentiment to the fullest. In addition to this, sub-standard work performance began to be tolerated in the civil service and crept into the private sector. The Brits had absolute authority, and no tribal affiliations. They hired and fired based on competence. The indegenes could not or would not exercise such independence. In any case, the "chief" needed to take care of his "subjects". Instead of giving them a goat or chicken, he could give them a job in the civil service. And if they misbehaved and he was forced to take disciplinary action, a legion of family members would come and beg for forgiveness. The slow slide into non-accountability had begun. So it happened that the hopes of the unconnected/unaffiliated masses were dashed, because even though "we" were in charge, we were worse of than under the terrible Brits and thier krio district officers! So once again, foreigners started looking a lot more attractive than our compatriots.
(f) Economic ruin and the rise of the JC's - Well, we all know what happened in post-1980 Sierra Leone after the OAU. Unprecedented economic hardship completely eroded the middle class and morale of the nation. Everyone below the age of 25 wanted to get out as fast as possible and never return. There was no hope or future in remaining in Sierra Leone. The few that got out, wrote back letter telling stories of faraway lands flowing with milk and honey. They visited at Christmas showing off everyday items that were now luxuries in Sierra Leone. Some even came back with foreign accents that solidified the belief that anything local was inferior. Having travelled abroad was now considered to be a qualification, irrespective of what, if anythng, was actually achieved while abroad.
To some up my longest posting ever - all of these factors have created a perception in 2007 Sierra Leone that non-Sierra Leoneans run things better and are more trustworthy than our kith and kin.
Subject: Re: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 12:40:17 10/14/07 ()
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All your assumptions can be applied to most other nationals. It is hardly a unique predisposition of Sierra Leoneans. The more economically distressed a country is, the more likely some of its citizens will be less enthusiastic about it. However, some of us will never be ashamed of our beautiful Salone. We will always work to make it better until we die, when we hope our bones will be laid to rest in the land of our ancestors.
Subject: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 11:28:19 10/14/07 ()
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I woke up this morning only to read on Cocorioko that my long-term musical star, Dr. Oloh has passed away into the land of our silent ones. As recently as last evening, I was playing Dr. Oloh's music to assuage my anxieties after running into a traffic jam that barely crawled. The authenticity in Dr. Oloh's music is as ever-green as it is Sierra Leonean. He sang in his native Krio tongue, and never sought to "modernize" {imitate?} Western musical tones with an English diction. Whenever he peppered his songs with English, Sierra Leonean themes and history could heard without doubt. Take the following words, for example:
"...boys and gals dem laf me den say I am a drunkard. Thank God I am a free born and Freetown is my colony. Everywhere I go sweety palmwine dae wait for me."
More admirable, Dr. Oloh's music was able to cross tribal lines with a stylish use of talent.
His music was well known for the Temne teaching in which he urged every young man to move on whenever a girl friend shows signs of jadedness. The last part of that Temne lesson ran thus.
"...komor konneh. Orlum or ti-dayrr". This roughly translates "make E go. Other wan go kam."
There is simply not enough space to appreciate this musical hero. Dr. Oloh has gone to join the ranks of nationalists like Bai Bureh, Sir Milton Margai and every deceased Sierra Leonean admired by this writer. Since he spoke Temne for musical purposes, "I Love You" from me to Dr. Oloh will be in Temne.
E botirr mu, Dr Oloh.
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: Gongoli
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Date Posted: 04:17:18 10/15/07 ()
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I was quite saddened to read about the untimely death of one of Siera Leones greatest musicians. Dr Oloh was a down-to-earth individual with a lot of charisma. He is one of the originals and I equate him with other top class Sierra Leone musicians like Salia Koroma, Calender, Pa Wilson, S E Rogie to name a few.
I also hope we can keep the music of these truly exemplary Sierra Leoneans alive by keeping an archive of their works. I have found it almost impossible to get any of Salia's music on tape or CD, and this would be a great loss if their music fades into the wind.
I wish to extend my deepest sympathy to his family and the rest of Sierra leone.
May his Soul Rest In Peace
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 17:36:11 10/14/07 ()
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May his soul rest in perfect peace!
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 12:16:50 10/14/07 ()
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What a touching tribute to Dr Oloh, Bra Enviable.
I know the great man is in the pantheon of Sierra Leonean Greats, making Heaven a little more joyous today. May God continue to favor him.
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 11:54:44 10/14/07 ()
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No doubt a legend in his own time! Just out of curiosity, id Dr Oloh create goombay music? I do not know of any other goombay artist.
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 12:31:52 10/14/07 ()
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KKW, That is a very good question. Being a child of the late 1960s, I do not have an authoritative answer to that question. However, Dr. Oloh, the man full of hints like "tap to me nor to married," and "Born pikin nor to married," was a legend in his own way.
I am actaully listening to him as I type this piece. Every African-American woman I have dated in this country knows about Dr. Oloh. I simply play his music with sickening frequency.
RIP, Dr. Oloh.
Subject: for Rev Kabs kanu
From: Pa Sorie
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Date Posted: 09:46:29 10/14/07 ()
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hey Rev. Will it possible to have a brief biographical info on the nominated ministers? thanks and have a blessed weekend.
Subject: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 08:54:47 10/14/07 ()
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After having thought about this long and hard, I have come to form an opinion about a possible solution to the FGM impassee. My solution is simple:
Every parent who has a child he/she wants to go through the procedure, should watch with that child, the documentary on the procedure by Dr. Olayinka Koso Thomas. After the review of the documentary, all participants would have to further undergo a therapy session on the merits and demerits of the surgery. This should be done at the Ministry of Health, either in Freetown or elswhere in the provinces. It should also be mandatory.
Secondly, every would be initiatee would have to sign a consent to surgery document after watching the documentary.Any consent signed by the initiatee must be countersigned by their parents, and any such consent to be valid must not have been obtained under duress of the proposed initiatee. Any consent obtained under duress is invalid. Any person who obtains any such consent under duress would be held criminally liable for practicing medecine without a license and be subject to penal as well as pecuniary sanctions.
No person under the age of consent (which in sierra leone is believe is 14), should be circumcised, with criminal sanctions for violations. The consent to surgery is a contract and therefore anyone who cannot be legally bound to a contract, or in the alternative whose contract may be legally voidable, cannot give such consent.
Further the government should also legislate that ONLY qualified medical doctors should be allowed to conduct the procedures and any violations of that law be sanctioned by imprisonment. (Now lets see them break their hippocratic oath)
The main purpose of this solution is that if we demystify the procedure and take it out of the realm of the "secret" society culture and make it an open medical issue, then people would become more aware of its ills.
Finally the government MUST charge a tax of 300,000 leones per initiatee and a waiting period of 9 months for an application process. All fees collected should then be ploughed in to a reeducation campaign.
SO WHATS YOUR TAKE ON THIS PRESSING ISSUE.
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: ABORTIONIST
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Date Posted: 17:14:16 10/14/07 ()
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Just because Dr.olayinka Koso Thomas happens to be Sierra Leone's first sophisticated ABORTIONIST,I think that she certainly lacks moral credibility on the issue of Female Genital Mutilation.
Dr. Thomas is reknowned for KILLING Fetuses just as how Bundu Women are reknowned for Mutilating Living Girls.
Considering the complicity of her practice, I think that most Sierra Leoneans would rather choose LIFE OVER DEATH.
On the question of MORALITY and HUMAN RIGHTS also, Most Sierra Leoneans would neither support Abortion nor FGM.
Therefore I think that Anti FGM proponents like yourself should better reference your arguments on work produced by people not as questionable as Dr Olayinka Koso Thomas.
Nar Dr. Koso Thomas fos begin perform abortion wit machine pan woman dem nar salone en most of im patient dem nor able born again....
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 18:38:39 10/14/07 ()
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You may be right about the facts as you have stated them here, however I fail to see th relevance of your argument that because she as a mendical doctor performed abortions, she is therefore not a positive reference point on the issue of FGM.Furthermore, I do believe that the thrust of your argument is a non sequitur and it is dismissed intoto as not being relevant to the issue being discussed.
Sorry.
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 11:34:42 10/14/07 ()
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Kabor. The "death penalty" thing was a trick to bring you back to the forum. Oosai u wan go? U sef. U pass mark. The more Agbas on dee forum, the merrier.
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 11:13:17 10/14/07 ()
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Bondo is supposed to be a Secret Womens' Society.
What is done in any Secret society should be left there.
If the women want to change what they practice in their secret societies, then let it be decided and done alone by women of the tribes that practice it.
Bra M.A Iscandri, I don't know you but I somehow have respect for you. Can you imagine if everyone start exposing all what are done in our various SECRET Societies. Ojeh comes to mind. You won't be happy.
Let the women dictate what is done in their SECRET societies. We Men have NO BUSINESS in discussing what's done in a WOMEN's SECRET Society. As far as I know or aware about, I have never heard women discussing about rituals done in Exclusively MALE SECRET Societies.
Let the women deal with their stuff. That's what our Traditional customs call for.
In fact, some of the women are to blame for all these discussions. Female Secret Societies were normally entered into in tribal settings in the provinces where everyone knows and understands the customs. Once they started doing it in Freetown where there exists a melting pot of different cultures, then all hell started with hair-raising stories.
MY Appeal To ALL INDIGENOUS TRIBAL WOMEN who undergo their customary rites, IS TO PLEASE GO BACK TO THE PROVINCES IN YOUR USUAL TRIBAL SETTINGS and perform your rites of passage. FREETOWN is Cosmopolitan and it is not the right place to do such. If the educated ones who had undergone the processes done in the WOMEN's SECRET society want to do modifications / improvement / amendments, then let them do that discussion (education) with the ELDERS within the confines of these SECRET socities.
These days, everyone wants to afix things to Human rights. Not everything that works in the west is supposed to work everywhere else. There's a reason why you have variety of people and cultures in the world. It seems Nature doesn't want us all to do the same things. The Aboriginal Cultures, The Native Indian Cultures, the chinese cultures are all different and distinct.
Are we all in Freetown aware of the rituals in crowning a Chief? Do we all know what goes on in these tribal chiefdom secret societies? Maybe we may start crying about human rights abuses when we hear them.
Would we like to breakup all our Tribal customs when we'll hear about them, since majority of what's done in the provinces seems to be violation of human rights according to western perspectives? Is Sierra Leone ready to breakup all its provincial traditional customary rites in order to fit the western perspective of human rights?
Why is it that, a babygirl would be taken to a medical center and have her ear pierced without any recourse? Is it not also human right for that baby girl to make that decision when she is over 18 and considered an adult?
Why is it that a babyboy is circumcised at such a tender age without any recourse? Is it not also human right for that baby boy to make that decision when he is over 18 and considered an adult?
By going into this, we erode most customs of the world.
Let the Tribes decide their customary rites!!!!!!
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 09:50:31 10/14/07 ()
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I am opposed to FGM and will never allow my kids to go through the procedure. I come from a community where FGM is religion for the womenfolk. In a strange way, women look at FGM as an exercise of women's lib. It is women who are at the forefront for the preservation of this culture; they will exert a heavy political price from any politician who attempts to restrict the practice in any way. What makes the situation even more confused is that FGM is just one aspect of the training about various beneficial cultural aspects that young women are subjected.
If the country is really ready to stop FGM, all the political parties AND the paramount chiefs should agree on a common strategy, and embark on a massive education campaign about the medical and social problems of this problem, before enforcing restrictions or an outright ban..
FGM is a political bomb that can explode if handled crudely. Can you imagine a political party or a tribalistic chief telling his people that Party A or B wants to destroy Bondo as part of a grand strategy to eventually destroying the tribe? Very toxic, man.
Subject: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 08:25:40 10/14/07 ()
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Tribalism exists because of MISTRUST by one ribe for the other. The krios have suffered from tribalism more than any other tribe and in the same vein, have been not only victims but also perpetrators of tribalism just as any other.
I propose that this government and its educational ministry put together a program where students in JSS 1 (Form one for those of us who are "old school") should have a s a part of their curriculum, a choice to learn at least two sierra leonean languages from native speakers, prior to graduating into the SSS1 ( form 4 again for the old schoolers). Further a program should be designed to have students spend at least one summer program in a different tribal envionment and learn the culture of that environment and be able to communicate and thrive within that environment.
My reason for making this proposal is that when students learn about their cultural and language differences, then they learn to appreciate these differences and to RESPECT them. I was blessed to have experienced sierra leone from the perspective of all tribes and I must say that my appreciation for the beauty of my people does exist. I started my primary school career at RC school in YELE in the Gbonkolenken chiefdom and consider YELE my home. I spent my toddler years in BO. Went to school at schlenker in Port Loko. Lived in Kenema, visited Moyamba, Bo, Mongerie,makeni,sefadu, Tombodu,Kaima, Kania,Massingbe, the whole western area, Ro kontha, Ro bathebol, Kambia, Kabala, Kamakwei, Gbinti, marampa Masimera, matotoka, Magburaka, Kono, Taiama, Lived at Mile 91, visited Moyamba Junction, can show you where Gbonga Babay is on the map. I am very much from Foulah Town the greatest place in all of sierra leone. (My personal opinion).
My apreciation for the culturs of all of our people can only be summed up in one word RESPECT.
When Kwame Nkrumah became president of Ghana, he sought to create a Ghanian identity and this method he used. Today Ghanians consider them selves Ghanians rather than thier tribal afiliations.
If MY president should have a legacy, it must be one that will stand the test of time. Putting together a program where our future generations will recreate a new NATIONAL IDENTITY should be a high priority.
So whats your take?
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 10:14:14 10/14/07 ()
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Oremi Iscandri, Odowereh! Tribalism has become a problem in Sierra Leone simply because politicians believe that they can scrape political capital by exploiting it. Left to the ordinary people, the tribes get along just swell. The problem is that, it is the educated elite and the political class who exploit the issue especially during elections.
I like your ideas about educating our young ones about the importance of national identity. It does not mean that the tribe should be obliterated. It simply means that we can celebrate the tribe and still be passionate about the national thread that binds all of us in a common destiny.
By the way, Schlenker in Port Loko was my first job after I finished at FBC...Nice teachers college, very nice Lebanese ladies, but the PLACE TOO DRY AND GBENKA. Got paid three times in one year and had to skip town fast!
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Mohamed Yongawo
To: All
Date Posted: 13:50:01 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: yongawomohamed@hotmail.com
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Mammy Blessing apart from your last sentence I could not have agreed with you more. Politics is what that brings out the tribe in people. We will get over it one day.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy
From: Democracy Now
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Date Posted: 15:34:32 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: alubless@comcast.net
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Mamy Blessing, you are so right. Tribalism is a thing of the elite class in order for them to win political power. In terms of tribalism, the ordinary Sierra Leoneans are more tolerant than the elites. An elite always wants to know your second name to decide whether you should be a close friend or an opponent. Most graduates from the tertiary institutions in Sierra Leone graduate with tribalism and regionalism through student politics. Tribalism is hard to confront since the main agents of change are themselves the holders of it. The class room therefore, is not a role model.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Pa Sorie
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Date Posted: 09:40:15 10/14/07 ()
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Chief I support your points on the need to promote national unity and putting an end to the cankerworm that is tribalism, but if my memory serves me rights I think the position you are proposing is already in place, about school children studying one or two other languages. But I think intsead of starting it at JSS 1 why not start in primay school as these are the formative years in any child development.
Nice that you are back......
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Borbor- Leon
To: All
Date Posted: 10:57:08 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: s.l.bangs@hotmail.co.uk
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Message:
Iscandri, your opinion is very correct. We should be working toward establishing a Sierra Leone where every Sierra leonean thinks of themselves as Sierra Leoneans rather than thinking of themselves as separate entities that are determined by tribal affiliation,regionalism, social class, political memebership and religion. We need to promote the core values of nationhood- 'Sierra Leonness'.
Fortunately, there is framework incorporated in our school curriculum for indigenous languages to be taught in schools. Unfortunately, I'm not sure whether such framework had informed school practices in the past. As you're aware there are fundamental issues that had prevented such good initiative to created the intended outcome. Besides, I'll like to see such idea to be extended even further to include parents, community groups and society at large. Importantly, do we have the structure in place and the required resources that will ensure the promotion of such ideal. Or are we making unrealistic demands on our new president and government. I think most Sierra Leoneans are anxious to see positive results, which previous governments have denied us.
However, it is vital for the our new government and the people of Sierra Leone to establish a strong sense of Sierra Leonness- minimising tribal tensions in Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 13:16:28 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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I think it will be nice for kids to learn other indegenous SL languages, but does language = culture? I don't think so. Even though we speak several differentlanguages, we do apear to have very similar cultures. And I would venture to say that we have a certain respect for our cultures.
In any case, how do we choose which languages should be taught without alienting some kids? We talk about major ethnic groups being Mende, Temne, Limba and Krio, but what about the 12 or 13 other ethnic groups? Its a slippery slope.
I hate to say it, but strong national identities tend to be formed when a nation goes to WAR against another nation. Take Germany, Japan and the good old USA. Strong national identity, shameful history of waging war. Canada on the other hand is basically a pacifist nation, with no strong national Canadian identity. But it works.
Rather than focussing on language, I would suggest aomething simlar to a history/civics class that teaches different Sierra Leonean cultures. I would also encourage students with common heritages to showcase their heritage in plays or extra-curricular activities. But a mandatory indegenous language class? I think thats a bit too much.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
To: All
Date Posted: 14:05:43 10/14/07 ()
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In any case, how do we choose which languages should be taught without alienting some kids? We talk about major ethnic groups being Mende, Temne, Limba and Krio, but what about the 12 or 13 other ethnic groups? Its a slippery slope.
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It is simple. Have the kids CHOOSE w2hich language they would like to speak and bring in native speakers of that language to teach a class once or twice a week. Examination on the languyages would be oral. The idea is to have a kid express himself in a language other than the language of their birth. This is a perfect segway into the idea of a mandatory "NATIONAL SERVICE" WHICH IS AN IDEA THAT IS BEING PRESENTED BY THE TRANSITIONAL TEAM for college students.
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I would suggest aomething simlar to a history/civics class that teaches different Sierra Leonean cultures. I would also encourage students with common heritages to showcase their heritage in plays or extra-curricular activities
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You suggestion is within the scope of possibilities. However your suggestion may not be enough to properly teach kids how to appreciate the other tribes cultures and mores. Encouraging students of Limba origin to stage a play in Limba, would be interesting however encouraging a child born to creole parents to PARTICIPATE in a play in limba would enhance that childs understanding of Limba much miore so than his or her passive incvolvement in beiung a member of the audience with no knowledge of what is being said.
I hope you get the picture. The Goal is to create an undersatnding of other language and tribal groups to ENHANCE our NATIONAL IDENTITY.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Bobor
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Date Posted: 23:57:36 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Krio is not one of the MAJOR ETHNIC GROUP in Sierra Leone. Krio as an ethnic group in Sierra Leone is small, but the Krio Language is commonly spoken. That is the fact.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 00:48:46 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
Good point except that you are looking at it from the point of view of numbers. In terms of the number of people that speak krio, it is a major of ethnic group if not the most major ethnic group in sierra leone. Therefore I ask that you pardon this small mistake because it helped me make my point.
stay blessed
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 15:48:37 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
Entered From: at 206.216.34.251
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Allieu’s point of incorporating local language education in our schools makes sense. The idea of having a National Youth Corps Service is also another way of introducing our youth to the cultural variations within our society and developing that sense of national identity. It is working well for Nigeria and can work for us too.
I am blessed to have had people like Mamy Mary at the St. Patrick’s School Bonthe; Teacher Gbondo of the RC School Kabala; Headmaster Turay of the RC school Port Loko who impacted and shaped my world and I can truly say my I am a better person because of their influence. My knowledge of Sierra Leone and the variety it presents comes from the opportunities I had to live and school in Freetown; Port Loko; Kabala; Musaia; Magburaka; Torma Bum; Bonthe and Makeni; said mass every other Sunday in Mokanji; Mongere; Gondama, Gendema and Gbap; spent holidays in Mattru Jong; Solon; Bendu Cha; Sulima; Gbondapi; Mamboma; Yengema; Bo; Sefadu; Kenema; Kono; Moyamba; Kambia; Mange Bureh and Tonko Limba. Gone are the days when people take pride in saying "ar nor ever cross waterloo"or look down on others saying "nar upline ee comot"
I am a Sierra Leonean first and foremost and then a creole/temne/fula later. I’d like to add that we need to put into place a system that ensures an even distribution of the country’s resources; providing equal opportunities for all, irrespective of where you find yourself. A child in Torma Bum in or Musaia in the Koinandugu District should have the same quality opportunities of achieving his potentials as the child in Freetown.
Subject: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: news
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Date Posted: 05:35:28 10/14/07 ()
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The statement below is a misrepresentation of one of Sierra Leone's finest military officers. I want to make it categorically clear that Palo Conteh was not in Sierra Leone when the NPRC overthrown the APC.
He left early in 1986 when he recognised that Momoh was straying away from the path of a "New Order.
Those of us who have worked closely with Rtd. Palo Conteh will proudly say he is a Man og integrity and honesty.
Retired Major Palor Conteh (A Northerner) is so far the only nominated Deputy Minister that has been named. He is to be the Deputy Minister of Defence. He is a nephew and former Military Aide to the late former APC President Joseph Saidu Momoh. He used to reside with the Momohs in their Spur Road residence and he went into exile when the APC was overthrown by the NPRC in April 1992 and has spent a considerable amount of time since then living in the United Kingdom.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - Yes, BUT...
From: Reporter
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Date Posted: 14:02:16 10/14/07 ()
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Yes. I have known Palor personally for many years. He is quite polished -- I always thought he would have made a good diplomat if he had not entered the military. I wasn't surprised when he left for the UK to study law.
But do we really need a Deputy Minister of Defence? I would have EBK could find a more pro-active use for Palor's obvious talents.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: Why O Why
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Date Posted: 09:44:21 10/14/07 ()
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Message:
Additionally rtd Major AP Conteh also acted as ADC to Late President Stevens before he left Sierra Leone.
Unlike appointed Brigadiers like Bio and others this Major was a CARREER OFFICER
Unlike previous mediocre appointments to defence,this officer is also a LAWYER.
Above all this humble officer was so popular with the rank and file that he was nicknamed "HOW ARE YOU"
Maybe these facts will help calibrate the inanity of the PHD (Pull Him Down) detractors.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: Bugsyb
To: All
Date Posted: 07:20:22 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: aburneynic@yahoo.co.uk
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Message:
I thought EBK had shown Political maturity to appoint a Minister of Defence, in light of what has happened in our Country in the recent past an important Ministry like Defence needs it's own full blown Cabinet level Minister. For the record I know the nominee Palo Conteh and always found him to be the epitome of an Officer and a Gentleman.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: Dr. S.M.Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 05:56:32 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Sm1turay@aol.com
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I can testify that Retd. Maj. Palo Conteh is one of the most competent sierra leoneans to occupy the post of dep. Defence Minister. He is a man of high integrity and honesty, cool and calculated. One of the best decisions taken by the President.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 07:32:55 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I agree.I knew Parlor since he was a studentand he is a good friend of my brother's.Met him personally when he and his brother came on a visit and stayed with my brother in NJ ( During Momoh's reign ). HE IS A FINE GENTLEMAN AND INTERESTINGLY, HE HAD LEFT SIERRA lEONE long before even Momoh was overthrown . He is also said to be a fine soldier and therefore he deserves his new post.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - For Kabs Kanu
From: Riverbend
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Date Posted: 08:51:02 10/14/07 ()
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Message:
Bo Kabs,
we dont expect you to say anything different. Since the inception of APC II, you have been bizzy praisesinging. So far, you have seen nothing wrong in anything they have done. I see no difference between your "webspace' and statehouse webpage. Your astute desire to take over Sylvia Blyden;s position as Senior Government Praise singer has dramatically lend your "paper" unreadworthy. I honestly expected much. I thought your critical position on SLPP was in the name of good governance, but your blatant and embedded nonsense that have been spewed since the APC II era speaks volume of your evil ploy. I know you want you want to be recognized as the official paper of APC II, but dont you think its too early to start propaganda? We have not even done anything yet, and you have already started calling us " a new dawn".
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - For Kabs Kanu
From: Fen Plaba
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Date Posted: 09:08:17 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Get over the SLPP loss, Riverbend. Sour grapes will only sour your soul. Go out, play and enjoy the sunshine of the new dawn. Cussing Kabs will not resuscitate the ghost of Berewapi! Sit in your little corner and wait till 2012 and give the SLPP flag to a sober individual, who will make your party more competitive. Meanwhile, take those lemons the electorate tossed you in the last elections and squeeze lemonade from them. Contribute positively to your country's progress!
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - For Kabs Kanu
From: Soja
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Date Posted: 09:29:17 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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SLPP will not get over it easily.Their defeat hurt them real bad.Some of them are still not eating.Some have sleep apnea and other problems. All the tribalism, all the nepotism, everything gone, swept away by Kabs Kanu's pen and people's power.They will cuss at Kabs for the rest of their lives, making Kabs the most popular Sierra Leonean.
Subject: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:31:15 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
Please make your pick with valid reasons. I will provide a complete analysis later but first let me see what you positive and patriotic guys think.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 10:54:14 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
BEREWA! For accepting a very controversial result.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 15:51:05 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Believe me or not, I've always thought that alieu sesay as a very dangerous man (political time bomb) when it comes to power and power alone is he interested in and not a better country.
Counting on all his contributions, this guy love any opinion that is politically incorrect or controversial. I'm not trying to say he's not entitled to his opinion, but you if have enough time go through his past postings which are to do with political debating you'll see what I'm talking about.
Talking of ACCEPTING CONTROLVERSIAL RESULTS, can you please explain what should Berewa had done instead of accepting the past elections results.
This is the same guy who's preaching about the current cabinet being a regionally based. It's an attempt to draw attention from other potential tribalist to create scene of seggregation.
Becareful my brother.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 17:28:51 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Edmond! I draw attention to issues people tend to avoid because,like you rightly said, they are controversial and politically incorrect.
I give credit where credit is due, i attck when i see a potential problem, and i stay away, where i lack any knowledge or information.
I remain a Nationalist and above all a sierra leonean...
My school mate- Lionel Akpabie a togolese student leader in EXILE calls me a weapon salone should use.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 09:55:09 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Ex president Tejan Kabbah. For all his faults, he did not make any attempt to tinker with the constitution and perpetuate himself in power.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 13:44:31 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
Former President Kabba would never have tried that, too dangerous for him to try it. He would have been forceably removed by people's power. He knew that. So that is not a credit to him.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Nar Me
To: All
Date Posted: 13:49:37 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: the Newsletter@hotmail.com
Entered From: amontsouris-152-1-27-15.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr at 82.123.93.15
Message:
Christiana Thorpe gets my vote for Sierra Leonean of the year.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 06:54:48 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac57384.bb.sky.com at 90.197.115.132
Message:
Charles Margai for his decision to merge with APC to save the people of Sierra Leone from another 5 years of poltical genocide. The man was bold enough to see beyond traditional tribal lines and make a decision that could have cost him his life. Lets face it PMDC votes did make an impact on the outcome of the election. Thats why Charles Margai gets my vote!!!
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:07 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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I absolutely agree with you. We have had several politicians in the past who claimed to be leaders, formed their own political parties, but made no impact at all and paled out of existence.
Charles Margai is the only one able to set up a new party, won 10 seats in less than two years under tremendous obstacles and succeeded in changing the political landscape of Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Capt Yamao Khati
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Date Posted: 14:04:37 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Margai has my vote.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Med Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:24:16 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: medconteh2005@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 89.241.145.222
Message:
I will go for Charles Margai
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Bugsyb
To: All
Date Posted: 07:24:31 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: aburneynic@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: accb8a38.ipt.aol.com at 172.203.138.56
Message:
I don't think that was Margai's reason for merging with the APC, he is a bit too Machiavellian for that.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: FENTHI
To: All
Date Posted: 05:58:46 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: fenthi@hotmail.com
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Message:
Dr.Christiana Thorpe
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 08:09:37 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I concur. Christiana Thorpe without a doubt. Had she not been a lioness in resisting the intimidation and threats, the elections would have been a wash and the country would probably be convulsed by violence now. She stuck to principle, without fair or favour, and delivered one of the fairest elections in the world...all this despite the machinations of fifth columnists within the electoral comiission itself.
PERSON OF THE YEAR----Dr. CHRISTIANA THORPE!
Subject: RE: EMMERSON LIVE PERFORMANCE IN LOS ANGELES...!!
From: MUSA
To: All
Date Posted: 04:02:02 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
It appears that the Emmerson show in Los Angeles on 10/13/07 run's at a loss due to poor advertisment.
members who went left earlier than they anticipated.
Reasons are unconnected with poor stratigies in their publicity method. The boy "Emmerson" try hard to motivate the crowd however, the turn-out of participant especially with the Sierra Leoneans was not impressive. It was mostly attended by most Liberians and Nigerians.
Subject: MARGAI BACK TO BASE!!!
From: INSIDER
To: All
Date Posted: 00:19:56 10/14/07 ()
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Message:
Honestly! Berewa should not have been the presidential candidate for
SLPP in the first place. He lacks presidential attributes and charisma –
the Sierra Leonean people were grateful for what he did for them so
they returned the favor. He should be grateful. Can you imagine your
head of state snoring and drooling at the UN general assembly?
Kabba don’t really care about SLPP, he dubious, self centered and very
vindictive. The deal was if he stayed out of the election process he
would be receive immunity and that’s exactly what he did. He can now
travel freely as he wants; chase the FBC girls and Nigerian actresses.
Common now, that’s a heck of a deal.
Berewa sorry it turned out this way, your former boss used you to
accomplish his personal agenda and victimized others in the process.
MAN! You should have known this guy was up to no good, but you
were power hungry. “You sell you oath for cocoa en yebbeh.” Well,
you’re back on the right footing continue to lobby and suck-up.
How it feels to be isolated? You teamed up with Kabba to marginalize
Charles, but guess what? He is highly respected. And if APC fails to
carryout the mandate of the people, he will be the next president – you
underestimated the chap, you know he is brilliant.
I warned you over and over about Kabba but you never listened. You
think book smart is street smart; let bygone be bygone my friend and
let the past be history.
Kabba is seen as a hero around the world for handing over power
peaceful. What a legacy! Funnily, he is very proud of his
accomplishments, you should hear him speak behind closed doors. He
is a man of multiple personalities, a dictator and the king of
vindictiveness. Sometime when he talks about religion, I just smile.
I can go on and on…I WILL GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT!
Subject: Re: MARGAI BACK TO BASE!!!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:41 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Mr. INSIDER:
If Mr Margai is "highly respected" as you claim, he is respected only in certain quarters, not nationwide. He is certainly not welcomed in large parts of the country as far as I know. And if you look at the results of the second round of voting, many, many voters deserted him for the SLPP. Thank you. JL
Subject: Re: MARGAI BACK TO BASE!!!
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
John: End your aggression and direspect for Cahrles Margai. Afterall both you and Margai were treated badly by an ungrateful party and a party that brought shame on itself. Margai decided to fight for a change from outside. I think he desserved respect. No third party has ever won 10 seats in an election in Sierra Leone. He will do better in 2012.
Subject: Re: MARGAI BACK TO BASE!!!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:27:44 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Mr. nico:
Thanks for your kind intervention. Please note that I am not disrespecting any one. I merely call the facts as I understand them to be.
Sure, Mr. Margai, I and several others were badly mistreated at Makeni by ruthless party hijackers but one thing I know for certain from personal experience is that my political culture is vastly dissimilar to Mr. Margai's. Thus, merely because he and I were badly mistreated in Makeni in 2005 does not mean that we are culturally and politically compatible.
Nor does it mean that because Mr. Margai and I are as different as night and day politics-wise, I do not respect his electoral achievements on the August 11 vote. As a matter of fact, I do.
But such is not the real issue. What matters is whether or not he could have behaved differently for the better good of all of us!
Again, I appreciate your intervention. -JL
Subject: KABBA STAY AWAY FROM THE SLPP
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:24:03 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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"Hands Off Our Party" SLPP Supporters Tell Ex-President Tejan Kabbah
Posted by on Oct 13, 2007, 06:47
Sierra Leone opposition supporters warn Tejan Kabbah Freetown, Sierra Leone (PANA) - Former President of Sierra Leone, Ahmed Tejan Kabbah, who retired after two five-year terms under the banner of the Sierra Leone Peoples party (SLPP), has been warned by angry supporters of the party to hands off its (SLPP) affairs.
Sierra Leone (PANA) - Former President of Sierra Leone, Ahmed Tejan Kabbah, who retired after two five-year terms under the banner of the Sierra Leone Peoples party (SLPP), has been warned by angry supporters of the party to hands off its (SLPP) affairs.
According to the pro-SLPP newspaper, "The Democrat", the former President had been informed he would be running a grave security risk by going near large gatherings of members of the SLPP, and therefore advised to keep his distance from his former party supporters as much as possible.
The development came in the wake of widespread speculations Tejan Kabbah had proposed a reconstruction of the party headquarters.
The ex-President had been accused on SLPP's FM 94.3 FM and at the SLPP headquarters of selling out the former ruling party and betraying the party's flag bearer and presidential candidate, Solomon Berewa, in the recently-concluded presidential and parliamentary elections.
Tejan Kabbah was alleged to have plotted downfall of Berewa and the SLPP, because he no longer felt safe with his former deputy and because of alleged jealousy, as he was said to have envisaged Berewa would offer a more effective leadership than him.
The former President has yet to react to the development because he is currently in South Africa on a private mission.
Berewa was defeated by Ernest Bai Koroma at in the elections
Subject: Re: KABBA STAY AWAY FROM THE SLPP
From: nico
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Date Posted: 15:03:23 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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Why did the party faithful had to wait for kabba to messed the party up before they moaned?
Subject: LIBERIA: GO TO SCHOOL OR GO TO JAIL. SALONE PARENTS BEWARE!
From: FLOMO
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Date Posted: 21:12:41 10/13/07 ()
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LIBERIA: Go to school or go to jail
Photo: Kate Thomas/IRIN
Many children spend their days selling food and other goods instead of going to school
MONROVIA, 21 September 2007 (IRIN) - Seven-year-old Assatou has been selling grilled plantains at a busy junction on the outskirts of the Liberian capital, Monrovia, for two years. "My family can't afford to send me to school," she says with a sigh. “So I learned how to cook plantain instead."
Under a new education policy, parents or guardians of children like Assatou will soon face fines or even be arrested for allowing their children to sell in the streets during school hours. President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf in early September announced the measure, which is said to be aimed at increasing school enrolment and curbing child labour.
However, the announcement is drawing criticism from local rights activists.
"We're not satisfied with the new [measure],” Joseph Harris of the Liberian children's rights group FOCUS told IRIN. "Imposing fines or arresting guardians is not the way to handle the problem of children working on the streets... The issue is due to complex economic and social factors. It needs to be solved rather than put under the carpet."
Parents say they would much rather put their children in school than to work, but they have no choice.
The Education Ministry says the policy, which will be phased in gradually beginning with the coming academic year, is intended in part to reduce child trafficking. Children are lured from the counties to Monrovia on the promise of education only to wind up as hawkers on street corners.
"Children are not breadwinners," said Hawa Gol Kotchi, deputy minister of education for information. "They should be in school, not working on the street."
Gol Kotchi said the move was part of a drive to meet a Millennium Development Goal to have all children enrolled in school by 2015. "It's based on common sense. We noticed a large number of children working on the street, and this is a good way to get them into school."
Compulsory but not free?
However, implementing the new policy is likely to prove difficult, particularly given that Liberia’s justice system is weak.
"Once the new law comes into force, the police will have to launch a mechanism to inform children and their parents why they are being arrested," Alvin Jask Kanneh, deputy commissioner of the Liberian National Police, told IRIN.
“And of course there is the issue of clashes with the police. Parents may refuse to comply," he said.
He added: "Many children don't know their age or don't have birth certificates. That will be another hurdle in the process.”
Liberia's much-hyped Free and Compulsory Education legislation – supposed to enable every child aged 5 to 11 to attend school free of charge – has been on the books since 2004, but is yet to be fully implemented.
Photo: Kate Thomas/IRIN
Children in a private school in Monrovia
Local human rights groups say the measure to punish non-school-attendance would be premature. In parts of Monrovia there are not enough classrooms for every school-age child so many parents are forced to pay as much as US$200 a year to send their children to private elementary schools, and they also have to buy uniforms, books and pens.
A police officer in Liberia can make $150 a month, a vegetable vendor up to $30. Unemployment stands at about 80 percent.
Mixed views
The rights group FOCUS said that unless the government measures were backed by practical action to provide free education for all children, the move would backfire. "Parents do not take pleasure in reducing their children to perpetual peddlers,” FOCUS said in a statement in Liberia’s The Analyst newspaper. “It is a measure of poverty and desperation."
Charlotte Kaicora, the headmistress of a private school in downtown Monrovia, said she believed many parents would resist. "Most of the children selling on the street on behalf of their parents are in low economic groups... Whether it can be implemented… I don’t know."
Her view was echoed by a group of women gathered at the busy ELW junction on the outskirts of Monrovia. "I want to send my daughter to school but I don't have the money," Lauren Jalloh, who makes around US$20 a month selling fruit and vegetables, told IRIN.
David M. Johnson, a father of four, also said Liberians were not ready for such dramatic measures. "Everyone wants their children to be able to go to school,” he said. “But until the state can provide free tuition for everyone it will be impossible."
Many children cheered when they heard the new government announcement. "If we don't go to school, we don't learn,” 12-year-old Patience told IRIN.
Some children, such as 10-year-old James, have to compromise. He works in the mornings and attends school in the afternoons.
Mohammed Kamara, a taxi driver, said having children in school would be good in another way. "Children make money by wandering among cars selling chocolate, sweets and water. But children are so small, and truck drivers don't always see them… there are many terrible accidents on the streets."
The Education Ministry’s Gol Kotchi said officials are under no illusions about the difficulties of implementing the new measure, emphasising that it would not take effect immediately. "We're not going to collect all the children working on the street right this minute," she said.
"We're slowly doing more assessments and renovating our teacher training institutions,” she said. “These are all measures we are taking in preparation for a full-scale free and compulsory education system.”
Subject: LIBERIAN EXECUTIVE SERVICE- WHERE IS SHEKU SESAY'S REPORT
From: CHAPCHAP
To: All
Date Posted: 20:53:15 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: chapchap@yahoo.com
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Republic of Liberia
Civil Service Agency
SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE
Vacancy Announcement (Repeat)
The Perspective
Atlanta, Georgia
October 8, 2007
Titles of Positions: 1) Senior Transport Economist, Ministry of Public Works
2) Senior Bridge Engineer, Ministry of Public Works
3) Road Construction Equipment Maintenance Specialist, Ministry of Public works
4) National Land Reform Program Coordinator, Land Administrative Reform Program Unit, Division of Operation, Ministry of Lands, Mines and Energy
5) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Justice
6) Lawyer, Ministry of Justice
7) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Commerce and Industry
Contract Type: SES Contract
Remuneration: Up to US$36,000.00 annually for each position
Duty Station: Monrovia
Duration: Three years (renewable yearly based on performance and funding)
Start Date: Immediate
Date of Issue: October 9, 2007
Closing Date: October 23, 2007
All applications should be addressed to:
The Program Coordinator
Senior Executive Service Program
Civil Service Agency, R.L.
63 Carey Street, Monrovia
Liberia
Email: edward.cuffy@yahoo.com or call tel: +231-6-903842
Background
The SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE is a key Program of the Government’s civil service reforms, intended to develop adequate surge capacity to provide leadership and management to implement priority programmes and catalyze strategic change in Liberia. The SES program has been established to attract and recruit competent and skilled Liberian professionals to help the Government work toward achieving effective management of public affairs, promoting economic growth and improving service delivery under the civil service code of conduct.
Objectives, Primary Duties and Activities, Reporting and Qualifications
1) Senior Transport Economist, Ministry of Public Works
Objective: Lead and direct the planning of the road transport network including traffic studies. Represent the Ministry of Public Works in all meetings and discussions with the Ministry of Transport in developing a National Transport Policy.
Primary Duties and Activities
Help formulate government transport economic policies
Study the effects of government economic and monetary policies, expenditure, taxation and other budgetary controls on the economy and the community transportation needs
Identify opportunities to improve efficiency and international competitiveness in regard to transport matters
Research, analyze and record the effects of the country transport programs on economic and industrial growth
Prepare forecasts, analyze trends and advise on transportation issues
Reporting
Reports to the Deputy Minister for Technical Services
Qualification and Experience
A Master Degree from a reputable institution in Transport Economics or its equivalent and a Bachelor Degree in Civil Engineering is an added advantage
At least ten years experience covering a full range of socioeconomic project evaluation and policy analysis in the transport sector. Previous exposure to road construction would be ideal
2) Senior Bridge Engineer, Ministry of Public Works
Objective
The Senior Bridge Engineer will supervise the planning, designing and coordinating construction of bridges and drainage structure in Liberia.
Primary Duties and Activities
Develop appropriate strategies in establishing the bridges and drainage structure for Liberia
Lead the design and delivery of bridge and highways structures projects using both traditional and design/build delivery formats
Manage a wide variety of structural engineering projects, including bridges, retaining walls, highway structures and waterfront structure
As the team leader, direct team members work, mentor junior staff and provide technical and quality guidance
Undertake appropriate client relationships and set up mechanisms to monitor client reactions
Reporting
Reports to the Assistant Minister for Technical Services
Qualification and Experience
A Master Degree in Structural Engineering
Must be a licensed Engineer and have at least ten years experience in designing bridges.
3) Road Construction Equipment maintenance Specialist, Ministry of Public works
Objective
Lead and manage a team in accomplishing specific tasks while operating equipment; perform safety inspection prior to operating equipment and monitor gauges and other equipment while in operation. Oversee routine maintenance and ensure that repair are undertaken.
Primary Duties and Activities
In consultation with the Mobile Workshop Director, prepare routine and periodic maintenance schedules of earth moving equipment and all related machinery
Conduct safety inspection of all earthmoving equipment and related machinery
Ensure that repairs are made to earthmoving equipment and all related machinery
Conduct in-house advance training for mechanics and related personnel
Effectively manage a team to ensure all tasks are undertaken in an efficient manner
Reporting
Reports to the Deputy Minister for Technical Services
Qualification and Experience
A Bachelor Degree in Mechanical Engineering; Masters Degree in Mechanical Engineering is an added advantage
At least five years experience as a Heavy Duty Mechanic (Master Mechanic) in earthmoving/construction Equipment
4) National Land Reform Program Coordinator, Land Administrative Reform Program Unit, Division of Operation, Ministry of Lands, Mines and Energy
Objective
Ensure effective coordination and implementation of the Government's Land Administration Reform Program.
Primary Duties and Activities
· Provide professional support to the office of the Deputy Minister for Operations to enhance the Ministry's effectiveness in land administration:
a) Coordinate the Ministry's endeavors to improve its administrative and regulatory effectiveness within the framework of existing laws;
b) Review existing internal institutional framework for land administration and propose revisions;
c) Review existing land surveying and mapping procedures and recommend measures for improvement;
d) Review existing land information systems and propose measures for improvements,
e) Coordinate implementation of selected and approved measures for improving existing land administration mechanisms.
· Oversee the Ministry's land sector coordination role and performance as lead agency in national land administration and coordinate government’s efforts to formulate a National land Administration Reform Program.
a) Coordinate all inputs by the Ministry to the National Land Administration Program formulation;
b) Provide national coordination services or advice to the inter-agency technical committee on land administration reform;
.
Reporting
· Reports to the Deputy Minister for Operations who Chairs the Inter-Agency Committee on Land Administration Reform.
· Receives reports from:
a) All staff of the Ministry involved with the Land Administration Reform program i.e, The Assistant Minister for Lands, Surveys and Cartography, the Directors of the Bureau of Land & Surveys, The Direct of the Bureau of Land Information & Training and the Director of the Liberian Cartographic Services; as well as the Technical Assistant for Land Services in the Office of the Deputy Minister for Operations.
Minimum Qualifications and Experience
· Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics, Land Surveying, Surveying Engineering or a related science discipline. Master’s preferred
The applicant should have at least eight years of experience in land administration, land reform systems, or land- related reforms in the public or private sector, with at least four years of practical experience. Minimum of 12 months of experience in coordination of entities around a common objective
5) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Justice and
6) Lawyer, Ministry of Justice
Objective
To strengthen the ability of the Ministry and the court enhance the representation of the Ministry in legal actions and manage the Ministry’s rule making process.
Primary Duties and Activities
Under the guidance of the Minister provide specialized legal advice on all aspects of law and procedure with an emphasis on criminal and international humanitarian law
Attend judicial proceedings and hearings at trial or on appeal and provide expert advice to the Minister in an expeditious manner on the various issues pending in various courts
Supervise research undertaken by the legal officers and provide the Minister with reports and decisions in a timely manner
Provide legal advice on procedural and substantive law and participate in meetings with Minister and staff;
Assist in the drafting and review of legislation and review legislation, draft and review contracts
Reporting
· Reports to the Minister
Qualification and Experience
· Attorney at law, JD/LLB preferably with specialization in international, criminal or humanitarian law
· Minimum of seven years legal experience, at either the national or international level, preferably with an emphasis in criminal law, international law or humanitarian law. Experience with litigation in Liberia, and/or knowledge of the Liberian legal system is a plus
7) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Commerce and Industry
Objective
Strengthen the ability of the Ministry to carry out its responsibilities through the provision of expert in-house legal services. In particular, review all documents with legal implications, advise the Minister on issues relating to rule of law, provide legal assistance and advice to key stakeholders, represent the Ministry in legal actions, and manage the Ministry’s rule making process.
Primary Duties and Activities
Advise the Ministry on the necessary underlying commercial legal structures to develop the strengthen Liberia’s economy
Serve on interagency teams that negotiate, interpret and enforce trade and investment agreements with foreign governments
Advise and be an advocate for Liberian exporters and investors. Respond to questions or problems that arise in local/foreign business transactions
Review the mandates of the Ministry and comply with all applicable legal requirements
Counsel the Ministry and assist government counterparts in legal action taken against any individual or business within the commerce of Liberia, in cases where the Ministry is being sued by any individual, business or organization
Manage the Ministry’s rule making process pertaining to the Minister’s oversight of commerce and industry
Liaise with the Ministry of Justice in all matters related to the mandate and function of the Commerce and Industry
Liaise with relevant line ministries to ensure compliance with all applicable treaties and trade obligations
Reporting
· Reports to the Minister of Commerce and Industry
Qualification and Experience
· Attorney at law, JD/LLB
· Must have 8 years of experience with a) litigation in international commercial laws, business law governing commercial transactions and activities and regulation, and/or b) professional academic experience in legal research of commercial theories, practices and regulations. Experience with litigation in Liberia, and/or Liberian commercial law is a plus.
Subject: take a look at me now
From: jackal
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Date Posted: 20:33:07 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzVUNQSs5f4
Subject: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: Forum Veteran
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Date Posted: 20:11:31 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I want to discuss something very important with him. Please tell me how I can contact him.
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: Another Forum Veteran
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Date Posted: 21:53:04 10/13/07 ()
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Message:
Don Webb was guite an old man. He had some kind of solution for any problem. He had elaborate plans for Sa Leone, the west to east, north to south rail road system the country needs, his paradise island Bonthe and many other ideas in Job creation and so on. It will be nice to have him back, if he is not below the grass.
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 22:47:01 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Might be right.. Thought he was gone too....
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: Curious
To: All
Date Posted: 05:43:50 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
alieu sesay, what do you know about Don Webb?
Subject: FAO:MOHAMEDBARIGUE
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 19:13:45 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 5ac432e7.bb.sky.com at 90.196.50.231
Message:
Can you contact the folling individual who wants a ticket to Freetown:
kadia - (001) 763 971 0059 / (001) 763 221 8533
Subject: Re: FAO:MOHAMEDBARIGUE
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 22:17:13 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bo Brah Do yah noh do dis aygane.
Now ah kin abul fen yu nah europe tru dah numba (Hahaha)
Always remember this is an open forum (you can't track all members). Emails are ok. (they aren't always on public record, but phone numbers are)
You nah Pa Harding ihn student, so arh consan.
Subject: Re: FAO:MOHAMEDBARIGUE
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 20:45:52 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: mohamedbaigue@yahoo.fr
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
mohamedbarigue@yahoo.fr
Subject: BRA CORNIE WHERE ARE YOU?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 19:00:55 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
About 1975, this Nigerian lp was the longest playing ever. If my memory serves me well, some called it "the African train". The real title, however, I will like to believe is "Ikenga Of Africa". Not absolutely sure of thas either. But one thing for sure, the lyrics includes "long live Africa"
Where can I get this song Bra Cornie?
I searched the net with no trace of it.
Please help Bra Cornie or anyone.
Subject: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Alieu Sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 18:01:24 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Did EBK really choose this GROUP of people?
Over Eighty percent of the ministers are from the NORTH. Why was the President telling the world that he is a uniter and not a divider?
Do we really need a FAKE uniter?
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 19:21:16 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
How do you know that 80 percent of his ministers are from the north? Some of those with Northern-sounding names may have been born and raised in the South and East. Point in case: You, Alieu Sesay, a very strong and passionate Southeasterncrat, have one of the most Northern surnames, Sesay, in Sierra Leone. I think the old rules of tribal profiling do not count anymore. Besides, some of those ministers were approved by the great Southern patriot, Charles Margai himself.
Do you want us to start listing the tribe/region of the ministers? For example, Dr. Succoh Kabia- son of the great Mende Paramount Chief Madam Ella Koblo Gullama of Moyamba and PC Bai Koblo Path bana of Lunsar..blahblah.
As long as all of the regions are represented in the cabinet, that is a step in the right direction. We will judge their performance later. Let's move on prof!
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:54:05 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Somtin? You mentioned Kabia, he is a northerner...and so are the fifteen others.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 18:51:00 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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If the SLPP cannot unite the South/East, then I must have my very own misgivings about this call for a "government of national unity" headed by the APC.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 19:26:30 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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Message:
I don't see any logic in a government of national unity. I think this concept is misnomal, it is simply inapplicable when a democratically elected govt had an overwhelming majority and can deliver its policies without the opposition alliance.
Beside unity government presupposes that the nation is fundamentally fractured to the point where inclusion of some agrieved opponents may be necessry to enhance stability and peace.
Koroma is not obliged either by constitution or otherwise to include any member of SLPP in his govt unless if he wishes to do so.
I am not an APC but my view is that koroma's judgement is correct both strategically and politically.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Panlamp
To: All
Date Posted: 20:14:22 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: panlamp2000@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-071-077-033-103.nc.res.rr.com at 71.77.33.103
Message:
This is the most National Unity cabinet you can get. Like it or not. What everyone should care about is results and this is the cabinet that will bring results to us all as a nation. You watch.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 19:38:59 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Na true yu tork so chief!
The best we probably can hope for in a government is individual responsibility not tribal or regional representation.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:47:30 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
KING! the SLPP did not ask for a government of NATIONAL unity... EBK did. But we dae watch dem.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 21:28:14 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
Alieu, seems like you are finding anything and everything to cry about. Given the rat-tar-tar performance of the SLPP during the past eleven years, the need to find the better qualified to change coruse trumps the need to get representation from the diffrent regions.. After all we are all S/Leonean. You guys love defining the line of regionalism and tribalism. Please lets fix your wrong first...
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:04:46 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You sound like my "name-sake" the "GREAT" one.
But the fact remains, the APC folks have called the SLPP a mende-man party, and that we are a bunch of tribalists.
Heck! look at what we are seeing.. A purely NORTHERN cabinet...Ar sorry for Salone.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 22:30:58 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
And I ask you my learned brother: Again, what is most important to you personally? getting folks that can get the job done? or National representaion of cabinet rank members? please give me a straight answer.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:45:28 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Call me spider.. but i think both... Why? The last election was TRIBAL and hence one will expect the CABINET to be inclusive so as to alley the fears of millions who think that the APC will marginalize and purnish them for exercising their democratic right to vote otherwise.
But what do i know?
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 23:16:44 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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In deed, if you vote otherwise you should expect otherwise; However, we all regardless of party affiliation we all stand to gain from the revivification of prosperity under APC. If you are not called to serve, then you are saved from all the trouble that comes with it. Except if abd only if "you man dem wan go complete the damage".
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Riverbend
To: All
Date Posted: 09:03:22 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-44c6f241.dyn.optonline.net at 68.198.242.65
Message:
Alieu:
i think I agree with you on certain grounds. I think there is ethics in politics. In essence, if you make a promise to the electorate, you must deliver on those promises - a reason why your SLPP was booted out. Therefore, EBK has the responsibility to do exactly what he promised - Form a government of National Unity. Or is it what John Leigh would refer to as Post-Election Statements - which no longer hold after elections?
Riverbend
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 09:18:32 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
EBK has put in place a govt of national unity, from all regions. Some people are more concerned with profiling people by their surnames. This is ridiculous. There are many Sesays and Kamaras who are Mende, and many Kandehs and Vandys who are Temne, Limba or Loko. This is a product of the tolerant culture of intermarriage in our country. Seems our forebearers were much more enlightened than the present educated elites who demand tribal purity in everything. We gotta move on and give this cabinet a chance. Let's judge them by their performance and not the base sequence in their DNA.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 11:00:20 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Fen Plaba! The proposed cabinet is very NORTHERN. There is no "ALIEU SESAY" type individual ON THAT LIST. Every Mansaray, Koroma, Kamara, Conteh, etc etc is from the North. Even Kabia whose mother was the PC from kaiyamba, he is also a Northerner.
Pray they perform, or else, the APC will be a ONE-TERM wonder.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 18:22:51 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
National unity was never an issue. The President did not say he will make ministers from every corner of sierra leone or from every party.
APC is showing SLPP how to run a government.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:44:31 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Oh yes he did. Not that it matters one way or the other. What is important is that the cabinet deliver. Let's move on.
Subject: Ah dae bust!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:38:56 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194097.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.97
Message:
Wahalah!
I am laughing like a fool!
Subject: Re: Ah dae bust!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 17:58:04 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Walahi, you are so right. Dr. Nahim is calling, homes.
Subject: SEX PAPER VIEW
From: CHARLES _CURTIS THOMAS RN MD
To: All
Date Posted: 17:23:53 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.133.139.165
Message:
This night i will be on my web cam performing live sex, so if interested please let me know. i have being masturbating for too long now
Subject: DO WE NEED FOURTY DEPUTY MINISTERS TO RUN SA LEONE?
From: INSIDER
To: All
Date Posted: 17:13:43 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The word on the street is that each ministry will have two DEPUTY
ministers. Why two?
Subject: Re: DO WE NEED FOURTY DEPUTY MINISTERS TO RUN SA LEONE?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 22:03:53 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Firstly, we need to know the job functions of the deputies.
If their job functions entails what the Perm Sec normally does, but the Deputy Min is there to be held accountable, then let it fly. We'll see.
We need to Ask the Government to publish job functions of all ministers and their deputies. If we know their functions, then we also can accurately judge their performances.
Hope COCORIOKO will help us in publishing these. Probably, make a section for Government Documents and publish all in pdf/word.
I'm beginning to like the IDEA of COCORIOKO being a PR outlet for APC. I PERSONALLY HAVE A LOT TO GAIN FROM THAT. Publish all customs tariff, government forms and official service fees.
Subject: Re: DO WE NEED FOURTY DEPUTY MINISTERS TO RUN SA LEONE?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 20:26:39 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
How credible is that piece of news? Some of the needless ministries duplicating themselves can be a burden on a weak economy. Having two deputy ministers in every ministry will be an unforgivable waste.
Subject: 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Mohamed Yongawo
To: All
Date Posted: 15:02:01 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: yongawomohamed@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
My concern is not the ethnic identity of the individuals. My concern, as I outlined in my last contribution to patriotic vanguard, is the share number of ministers. EBK DO WE REALLY NEED 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE? I still think we don’t. Nevertheless, EBK you are in the driving seat, you probably know what I do not know. I wish you all the best.
Subject: Re: 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 15:26:48 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 199.219.162.191
Message:
Your concerns are noted..but did you know Pa Kabbah had 25/8 Ministers? If Pres. EKB has reduced the cabinet to 20/3, I think he has done good so far...
Subject: Re: 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Mohamed Yongawo
To: All
Date Posted: 17:25:23 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: yongawomohamed@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
There was no justification for Kabba to have "25/8" ministers. Let me reiterate that irrespective of who is in power, 12/13 ministers are just enough for Sierra Leone. This has always been my view and it will remain so. Prior to the elections I made my position in a piece I sent to cocorioko but it was never published. Probably the editor judged it was premature. I still wish EBK good luck.
Subject: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 14:45:26 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 199.219.162.191
Message:
Pa Siaka once filled his cabinet will PhDs but time told that the Salone man bizness tranga still. H.E. Pres. Koroma has filled his cabinet with J.C.'s/New Breeds, hope SL will do better this time. The list includes:
VP Sumana
Mineral Resources Jalloh
Health Kabia
Lands Davies
Housing Saad
Marine Kapu
Defence Conteh
...............................
Others with International experience include:
Finance Davies
Foreign Affairs Bangura
Education Bah
..................................................
Home Grown Politicians:
Energy Kabbah
Children/Welfare Kandeh
Spokesman Kanu
Information Kargbo
Agriculture Sesay
Justice Serry-Kamal
Trade Koroma
Transport Sesay
..............................
JC-HG like:
Tourism Trye
Interior Kamara
Labour Mansaray
Subject: Re: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: Bugsyb
To: All
Date Posted: 06:27:39 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: aburneynic@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: acc9b12a.ipt.aol.com at 172.201.177.42
Message:
The nominee for Finance is Carew or is it a Fruedian slip? Raymond Davies was Carew's Boss(GOD) at KPMG for many years.
Subject: Re: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: HG Case File
To: All
Date Posted: 20:08:08 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-69-20.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.69.20
Message:
My Friend,Is Hindolo Trye really a JC-HG? I dont think so
Was he not the same person who legislated a press bill that required newspapers to have at least
one million or more leones in their accounts in case they get sued for libel? Was Mr. Trye not the Information Minister who
bought back to life television in Sierra Leone? Was he not the same person as Transportation Minister who made Taxicabs
to begin distinguishing themselves with yellow colored paint?..Considering his ministerial records I am sure other forumites will
agree with me The former Student leader is certainly not a JC-HG as you now alleging.
Subject: Re: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 17:47:28 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Very informative. thanx for dreaking it down for us.
Subject: HOW CAN CHANGE BE IMPLEMENTED TO MINIMIZE RESISTANCE?
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:00 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: Cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-206-51.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.206.51
Message:
What an interesting exchange regarding the cleanliness of the country.
These are the kind of civilized conversations we need in this forum.
Utilizing mind mapping/engaging in a meaningful debate to come up
with solutions for the issues the country is facing.
I concur with you guys that strict measures/legislations should be
enacted/implemented to keep the country clean. We should not forget
that implementing change is arduous; by nature human being do like
change – resistance to change.
There are certain steps that should be taken to minimize change
resistant and make it effectives. (1) Create the need for change
(urgency) - by explaining why the change is necessary/benefits, and
the effect if the change is not implemented/instituted; (2) Involve the
people in the process – by soliciting their ideas/inputs - make them
part of the change process; (3) Create an avenue for feedback – where
people can express their pleasure or displeasure; and finally build
consensus – supporters/ambassadors of change. The aforementioned
are some of the techniques use to minimize change resistant.
LETS KEEP THE DEBATE ALIVE MY COMPATRIOTS.
Peace and love
One Country and One People
Subject: Eid Greetings
From: Alieru Bakarr
To: All
Date Posted: 14:36:51 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-82-160-44.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 72.82.160.44
Message:
EId-ul Mubarak to all Sierra leoneans.
May the Almighty Allah Bless our President and his miniters.
May He accept our fasting, prayers and zakats.
God bless us all and Sierra leone.
Amin.
Subject: Re: Eid Greetings
From: Abdul Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 20:31:22 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: abdulcole@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-244-053-040.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.244.53.40
Message:
Wish you the same alpha Alieru and everyone.
Subject: Re: Eid Greetings
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 14:42:36 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: COttontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-206-51.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.206.51
Message:
EID-UL MUBARAK TO YOU MY FRIEND AND TO ALL MY COUNTRY MEN
AND WOMEN...
Subject: Thank God!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 14:18:27 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194097.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.97
Message:
It was a problem for our nation. Can you believe that!
You mean to tell me you still do not understand? And they still will not understand.Wow.
I have to go!
Subject: Re: Thank God!
From: Get help Bambay!
To: All
Date Posted: 18:13:45 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
I wish you the best, bro, as you fight to overcome the demons that are torturing you. I hope you seek help to quell the voices screaming in your head. There was a time when I would have said something flippant just to gas with your head. But mental illness is a very serious and misunderstood illness. It really is no joking matter. Please seek help and regain your health and well-being. You're gonna be just fine. All the best, bro. Please get help!
Subject: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 12:28:25 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: Cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-202-227.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.202.227
Message:
My fellow compatriots the president has finished selecting his cabinets/
team to help carryout his objectives and the mandate of the voters/people
of our beloved Sierra Leone.
There are familiar names with a track record and some are new in the
political arena. CAN SOMEONE HELP SHADE SOME LIGHT ON THIS LATEST
SELECTION?
Peace and love
One Country and One People
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 13:48:59 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.242.151.74
Message:
What are you talking about? And where do we need to "shade" some light? ooh to shed some light?
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 14:18:35 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-206-51.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.206.51
Message:
Eddie: Thanks for the correction. I meant to say shed, you got the
message, that is the essence of communication.
Peace and Love
One Country and One People
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr. Mechanic
To: All
Date Posted: 23:01:49 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
Happy 59th! Mr. President, Eid Mubarak!... What exactly are you not amazed about? or what is it that the APC does not seem to cease to amaze you about?
All your predictions or I should say dicta failed to attract any merit. What happen? Is that The palm tree tactic: if you talk about it enough, it may come to pass?
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr. Mechanic
To: All
Date Posted: 22:58:44 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
Happy 59th! Mr. President, Eid Mubarak!... What exactly are you not amazed about?
All your predictions or I should say dicta failed to attract any merit. What happen? Is that The palm tree tactic: if you talk about it enough, it may come to pass?
Subject: NOR MESS WIT SOAK LEPET
From: REYWAL
To: All
Date Posted: 11:50:17 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UyJuZef9r9c&mode=related&search=
Subject: Re: NOR MESS WIT SOAK LEPET
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 17:19:55 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
Holy Smoke!!!
Yes "NOR MESS WIT SOAK LEPET", or you will get beat up reel bad!
Subject: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 11:08:51 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alphaa Alieu Iscandari: You sound like a convinced exponent of the death penalty. I have opposed views to yours.
Why are you opposed to the death penalty? I whole-heartedly agree that in a nascent democracy, the nation's chief executive can always use the death penalty to liquidate his opponents after fake trials. We are an example of such farcical brands of justice, as every leader from Siaka Stevens to Kabbah, executed opponents after trials that never passed the mildest tests of civilized justice. In that sense, the death penalty can be a tool in the hands of a vindictive leader on the prowl.
What I have never heard from you, Lawyer Alphaa Alieu Iscandari, is an elaborate justification for wanting to abolish the death penalty in every circumstance. What form of punishment is most suitable for beastly crimes against humanity? How is genocide punishable, for example? Is society expected to lock up a serial rapist of kids and feed him three square meals a day at the expense of the aggrieved? You are probably itching with the liberal argument that studies attest to the fact that the death penalty does not deter crime.
In the United States, African-Americans tend to oppose the death penalty. Given the history of this country, African-American opposition to the ultimate form of punishment is understandable. After slavery, Jim Crow and a justice system tilted against blacks with racist intents, African-Americans have every reason to pout their lips in disgust when the death penalty is mentioned. On a wider perspective, the death penalty remains a fitting form of punishment in crimes that border on animalism, and I had fewer quibbles when the heads of Chemical Ali and Saddam Hussien were severed. The same Europe that opposes the death penalty today was the same geographic entity that allowed the Numremberg trials after subduing Nazi baboonery. After Nuremberg, the victors' justice sentenced some of the convicts to have a date with the hang man. Where was European squeamishness as the hang man tightened the noose after Nuremberg?
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 08:36:59 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
I am oposed to the death penalty because it is MORALLY WRONG. I still grieve for Salami Coker, Kula Samba, Abdul K Sesay, Boisy Palmer and all of those who are not personally known to me but who died needless deaths because they were on the other side of a political debate.
Salami Coker, James Bambay kamara and a host of others were BRUTALLY murdered by the NPRC on december 29, 1992. I am angry that no one is asking qusestions about the circumstances of their death. Salami did nothing to deserve to die in such a brutal way.
I read the supposed last statement of FM Minah and I shudder to think what would have been going through that poor mans mind knowing that he was about to be put to death in one of the most brutal ways by hanging. Why I ask do we have to be so brutal to ach other because we differ politically. There are many ways we can "punish" people for crimes committed against the state, other than by death or torture.
As an advocate for justice, and a "card carrying" member of this government, I will work behind the scenes for prison reform and penal reform.
THE DEATH PENALTY IS DEAD WRONG.
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:58:34 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
If you are sorry for what happened to FM then you do not know the history of the justice system in Sierra Leone. FM is a victim of his own stupidness, selfishness and power consciousness. In America, we say "the chicken has come home to roast". FM being a poster child to your opposition to the death penalty is a joke. He deserved what he got. What would you do with the killers of Sam Bangurah,Korubally,Wellington Street murder and the POW student that was killed at Brookfields because a girl? Retribution is what our justice is and will continue to be about. If you kill someone, you should be killed in return and it should be swift. No probation or parole because you or your family is rich or politically connected. Remember that Lady Justice is blind. Lonta
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 10:22:13 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
"the chicken has come home to roast".
I am sure you mean:
"the chicken has come home to roost". Sorry.
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:05:53 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: sabanoh007@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Fen Plaba, thats what I meant. Thanks. I am not easily rattled. Go fen oder person plaba. Lonta
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 12:26:49 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-54-210-212.hsd1.in.comcast.net at 68.54.210.212
Message:
Let's face it, the death penalty only brings relief to perpetrators of serious crimes and seem to be only a symbolic action to show the masses that justice is served. The reality is that it does not punish perpetrators duly, it just puts them out off their misery – whatever that misery or torment is that allowed them to become what they are. Let's face it, in Africa, life in prison is enough to deter a criminal, because our deploring conditions in the prisons are enough punishment for any crazy fool – lock-up in Sierra Leone is hard time sent in conditions that you will not wish for your worse enemy. So you see my friend, advocating the death penalty only creates some relief for some in the society that are overzealous for justice to be served, but what better justice it would be to allow a perpetrators of a serious crime to go though hard time, send life in prison and live every day to face the society and victims of the crime committed. Life in prison as opposed to the death penalty could be very tormenting and very overbearing for criminals who have no respect for life, society norms and the rule of law. Continue the death penalty and make a serious criminals dream come true - give them an easy way out.
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 16:30:26 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
"Let's face it, in Africa, life in
prison is enough to deter a criminal,
because our deploring conditions in
the prisons are enough punishment
for any crazy fool – lock-up in
Sierra Leone is hard time sent
in conditions that you will not
wish for your worse enemy."
--------------------------------
"Let's face it, the death penalty
only brings relief to perpetrators
of serious crimes and seem to be
only a symbolic action to show
the masses that justice is served."
(SHABBA)
I AGREE!!!
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: nyandadiamoh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:19:58 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-138-69-150.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 69.138.69.150
Message:
I agree with you Alieu Iscandari - Be it by hanging or by any other means, death is not a punishment but an end. DONT KILL Punish
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 11:40:20 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
If someone killed one of my kids (astafulie), I would want that murderer to swing from the end of a sturdy rope. If someone commits a heinous crime against humanity, like the crimes that went on in Srebrenecia and in Poland's concentration camps, or are going on right now in Darfur, my friend, line up the twisted criminals against the wall and I will pull the trigger.
If however the death penalty can be used to execute political opponents, as obtains in many African countries, then my opposition is resolute.
I am not trying to eat my cake and have it, guys. It's just a real tough pickle to bite. I guess there will always be shades of gray. My solution is to apply the death penalty only to heinous crimes and forbid it in political situations. It is not an ideal solution, but it is a start. For my part, I will never abolish the death penalty completely.
Even God punishes his violators with death, in all the major religions!
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 11:13:06 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Correction: You sound like an opponent, NOT exponent, of the death penalty.
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:32:00 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cat11.liblab.csus.edu at 130.86.14.111
Message:
Are we the ones to be talking about this especially when innocent
Sierra Leonean, a college graduate, an aspiring young man who has no
criminal record, has not bad financial record, most of us never in our
lives met him, the only thing we know is how we might make im
disrespected, trough which he has endured great deal of pain and
suffering but we incessantly continue to persecute him in any way
possible relentlessly trying to prove what we ourselves are aware are
false, fabricated, hate-generated and jealous-generated efforts; an
effort intended just to manipulate, which we ourselves are aware of
that our efforts are nothing but sadistic and narrow mindedness?
Are we mentally, spiritually , morally and psychologically competent to
see the reality of what these people go through in jail cells? Mind you
there are those who new him starting 1961 to the present and most of
them have been reading.
I have to study. I have two exams on he way.
Subject: INFRASTRUCTURAL DEVELOPMENT
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 10:36:05 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 199.219.156.131
Message:
PWD or MOW?
Subject: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 07:20:08 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
The elections have come and gone. As we roll into the Christmas season, the JCs are getting ready to fly in to showboat, peacock and strut their multi million-dollar-euro stuff, to the hero-worship of fan, kith and kin. However the days before chrismas are anxious ones for a most of our 'homebase' compatriots as they realize that their dreary economic status quo has really not changed at all. It will hit them like a ton of rutile concentrate that, despite the elections, they still can't afford one decent meal for their families, pay school fees, buy presents or get a job. Resentment is bound to grow unless the govt takes one impact problem (out of the myriad) and take a go at it. The issue of electricity should be tops because of its psychological effect (the perpetual blackout has become synonymous with the country's malaise), and its indication of a hopeful future, that things are going to be different now.
ELECTRICITY:
The president recently toured our crappy power stations which have for too long become the shelter of sheep, goats and other slithering animals taking advantage of the quiet surroundings. The president promised to light up Freetown and all twelve district headquarters. I don't think it is rhetoric at all. WE CAN DO IT! This is how:
NACSA, which has wasted about $100 million on about 1000 lousy projects with zero economic effect, still has about $50 million undisbursed cash at hand. That is money that can be used to buy the 2MW provincial generators and the 17MW thermal station for Freetown that could be in place to illuminate Sierra Leone by Christmas. We will get these stations while we continue our bilateral negotiations with the UN and friendly nations. Our development partners will respect us for it because they will see that we mean business; that we are not just going around panhandling like an international 'miskina'.
As for the thievery of electrical cables and wiring, just deploy a squad of cops and soldiers and tag them as the new Electrical Crimes brigade. That will stop the sabotage immediately. Let's get cracking, Mr. President. Let's change rhetoric into reality!
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 17:00:38 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
Entered From: at 206.216.34.251
Message:
"Changing rhetoric into reality" is not as easy as you believe. Your 30 days solution to the problem is a very unrealistic expectation of what even the most efficient, best organized and best resourced government can achieve in such a short time. As His Excellency did say, "The rest of the country has not had electricity for the past two decades and this is a serious situation”. The President's admission of the problem is a sign of courage and sincerity and he has clearly associated with the sufferings of the people. After ten politically catastrophic years, the new government’s challenge will be to go beyond the band-aid approach and identify lasting solutions to the country’s energy problems.
Project funding and I believe the unexpended NASCA balances are subject to bilateral/multilateral funding agreements and cannot be simply diverted to other uses outside the scope of the projects for which they are meant. Funding for a project can only be used for the activities within the scope and the physical limits defined by the project descr1ption.
“I’m not going to proffer any solutions now…” the President said, but I am sure he and his newly appointed Ministers will be coming out with short, medium and long term plans to address a problem which “has been given a number one priority…” on his agenda. Let us be fair and afford the new team the time to provide us with a realistic and comprehensive calendar of how, where and when things will happen.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 19:03:50 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Olu,
I understand that translating rhetoric to reality is not an easy task, but it is leaders of vision who have always marshalled men and women of good will to achieve seemingly impossible dreams. I have faith in EBK and I have faith in the average Sierra Leonean.
Just because the country did not have electricity in two decades does not mean we cannot have light by christmas. Maybe the reason for the silent light posts in the past is because of incompetent leaders who paled and became jelly-kneed when confronted by the problem. If the president is really serious about solving the light problem, there are companies here that can supply not only the generators, but also the expertise to run them...and that is no band aid.
I just used the NACSA stash as an example of fund availability.
You said that the "... unexpended NASCA balances are subject to bilateral/multilateral funding agreements and cannot be simply diverted to other uses outside the scope of the projects for which they are meant." Olu, that is the bureaucracy speaking. The tens of millions of dollars that NACSA has misused by funding wretched PR projects that have no economic viability or social value for the community is a national scandal waiting to explode. Any president worth his salt should be able to justify to donors why electrification is a far better enterprise than the present rubbish NACSA strategy of building decrepit shacks, and market places no one sells in because the people have nothing to sell.
The earlier the president moves and is seen to try something, anything, about solving some of these problems, the more goodwill he will have. If he gets into long talking sessions with his bureaucrats, forget about it!
If there is no electricity or a cleaner Freetown by Christmas, then my friend, let's get ready for the bootleg CD's from the SLPP's own Emerson. For real, bro!
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: CHRIS
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Date Posted: 21:15:13 10/13/07 ()
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Yes, I have always advocated that Our New Leader Grab a few easy Victories early on and lead with a sense of urgency. This kind of thinking, I do think he has, because he has already exhibited it, but, he has a long road ahead. The thing about the easy win tactic is that, it is based on a success cycle. Each little success leads to more success, more confidence which leads to bigger successes. Public sanitation and electricity which has been mentioned are a must, the sooner the better.
These issues are inescapable and there is no off-the shelf solution to them and many of our issues. He has to find creative solutions to our problems. One thing I do know is, with creativity and resiliency; he might not be able to micro-manage every problem but his can sure delegate responsibilities and hold Department heads accountable. For instance, it is in the police chief’s jurisdiction to ensure that our electrical wires and poles are not stolen, to do what he has to do, run sting operations and so on, if he wants to keep his job.
Being able to work through tough problems is a powerful elixir for anyone especially if you find that you are in over your head.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Olu Beckley
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Date Posted: 20:06:40 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
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The peoples expectations are well founded, but I pray that the new team does not whitewash the lamp posts with neon paper only so that they can glow at christmas.
I believe in President Koroma's quest for quality and his ability to handle such matters of national importance with the efficiency and expediency they deserve. He delivered for the APC and will surely deliver for Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: REY WAL
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Date Posted: 10:55:44 10/13/07 ()
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The Public Cleanliness or a health and safety code act should be passed Immiediately by Parliament. This act would outlaw the deposition of trash in the streets of freetown and will levy stiff fines and penal Sanctions for violations of the law.
The City council should be empowered to make laws which would prohibit the same acts and subject an offender to the same fines and penalties.
How this can be accomplished:
Within 30 days the City Council can legislate ordinances which would declare certain areas of the City as TRASH PILOT PROJECT AREAS" All of the western area from Campbell street and Pademba Road Junction all teh way west to Juba Hills and beyond and from Congo Cross Bridge westward to include Aberdeen Congo town and Wilberforce and Lumley. If you are familiar with the geography of the western area you would have realised by now that these two prongs are not mutually exclusive and that they intersect at many places.
Every home within the Pilot project area will have to buy a trash can into which it will place all of its trash. There will be a scheduled pick up twice per week in these areas. Any regulation sized trash containers should be determined by consensus. These containers could easily be made by a company in Freetown that manufacturers Plastic water tanks in Freetown. These containers should be made with wheels, for easy portability.
On scheduled pick up days, all participants shall have placed their containers at scheduled pick up points within their areas possibly in front of their homes for Pick up.
All Home owners shall be given a rebate on their taxes for buying Trash containers as an incentive for complying with the rules, further all homeowners who comply with the law shall be given a free pick up for the period of the Pilot programme which shall not exceed three months. All home owners who do not comply with the rules shall be fined an amount to be fixed by statute.
Any such fines levied would be levied against the property. Fines shall accrue Interest and fees. failure to pay fines within a specified period of time, shall subject any home owner to a judicial procedure to sell their home or land to the highest bidder in a public sale for the recuperation of any monies owed to the state.
Any one who dumps trash in the streets shall be subject to a fine of no less that One Million leones. Any one who sends a minor child to dump trash in the streets shall be subject to double the fine plus any costs incurred by the government to clean it up.
After a Three month assessment of the program, a subsequent program should be taken into the eastern parts of Freetown on an area by area basis.
Create an enforcement mechanism and enforce the law to its LIMIT.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: Medk
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Date Posted: 07:58:17 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: mohamedkamara@hotmail.com
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What about allowing companies to provide bins or rubbish Skips at strategic positions. Household will be charge for the use of the bins and the skips paid for by the Govt or Council.
The Company providing the bins and skips will collect rubbish every day.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 11:42:47 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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You need a big public awareness campaign with something like this. I can still remember a campaign from my childhood when trash cans were rolled out on every street corner. The message was to help keep America clean. People have to see the benefits of something like this and then they have to take ownership of it. To this day, I hate litter. I don't allow my children to litter and whenever I see it I feel upset by it. This is a solution that every Sierra Leonean can have a hand in.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 12:51:53 10/13/07 ()
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Believe it or not, we had that in SL when I was going up. Pa Shaki (believe it or not) had his Keep the City clean campaign and I remember tractors pulling dumpsters, taking them to the city dumpsite.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 23:10:16 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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Did it work? You can't just legislate something. Drugs have been illegal forever but unfortunately addiciton is not down. Prostitution is called the oldest profession which means it's been going on since the beginning of time. There is plenty of legislation which has not been effective, probably because legislation on its own does not work.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 11:16:18 10/13/07 ()
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REY WAL,
I agree with you that unless we get tough with sanitation, we will always have a filthy city with all the attendant health problems. Look at how Singapore, Dubai and other clean cities in the west maintain their spotlessness: Very severe sanctions! I think Singapore whips you for spitting gum. I am not advocating that kind of severity, but some sensible sanctions should be enforced.
About the trash cans homeowners will be forced to buy? My only caution is that some people will not be able to afford it. For these people, the local govt should foot the bill.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: REY WAL
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Date Posted: 12:22:16 10/13/07 ()
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The local government does not have to foot the bill. Any OWNER of a piece of property should be mandated to provide trash containers for their property. If not the government shall provide it and lien the cost to the Property and earn interest from that. You would be given a certain amount of time to pay the lien, a payment plan of sorts with interest accruing. Government gives NOTHING for Free unless it is a public benefit like innoculations against diseases that can become an epidenmic.
Theres absolutely nothing worn with Public Floggings but not as a punishment for a first offence, rather it may be the result of continued violations of the laws. First you make a fine so steep that it will serve as a lesson for those who may want to violate the laws.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: REYWAL WATCHER
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Date Posted: 15:56:49 10/13/07 ()
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REY WAL = LAW YER SPELT BACKWARDS. CAN ONLY BE THE ERUDITE ONE ALIEU ISCANDARI WHO MAY BE GONE BOT STILL BE HERE. YOU GO BROTHER WITH THE GOOD IDEAS.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 10:07:55 10/13/07 ()
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"As for the thievery of electrical cables and wiring, just deploy a squad of cops and soldiers and tag them as the new Electrical Crimes brigade."--Mammy Blessing.
You are right, bra. Most often, the sobotage is done from inside the facility. When heads roll through dismissals and prosecutions, culprits will know things have changed. It is no secret, for example, that spare parts and fuel meant for generators, are among the essentials stolen with impunity. If you want to fight corruption, you must be willing to prosecute and jail convicted felons, regardless of tribal affiliations. So far, we have not shown the societal sophistication to punish those who menace the rest of society without regards for tribal or familial connections. We hope Koroma succeeds in ushering in the New Dawn Sierra Leone needs.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Democracy
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Date Posted: 11:21:20 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: alubless@comcast.net
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Enviable, you are so right, they used to sell the fuel and the parts. The 'jebu' boys would carry the five gallons containers filled with diesel bought from them, 'engineers' and would sold to the drivers.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 11:59:46 10/13/07 ()
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When I was in Freetown, the "Jebu" boys at Bottom Mango {Wilberforce}, made no secret of the fact that stolen fuel, spare parts and essentials from government departments were the items on sale. No once cared to investigate the origins of such items, let alone think about prosecuting those who initiated the sales from inside those government deparments.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 07:40:46 10/13/07 ()
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#2 CLEAN UP FREETOWN
This is the easiest thing that can be done in that it is cheap, foreign expertise and imports are not required and you could say okay, lets start this in three days and be able to. If Freetown gets cleaned up and a way is implemented for it actually stay that way, since there are those that will be dumping their garbage in the streets, all man go collay pan we new president.
Mr. President, of all the challenges you face, duties you have to do for your populace, this is the easiest one. Light will obvioulsy take time, three meals a day for everyone, or chicken in every pot as they say, will take time, schooling and jobs will definitely take time. Cleaning up Freetown? You could have it so that by January, when the holiday makers are returning overseas they are telling everyone how incredibly clean Freetown is and how EK is the best thing to happen to Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: sgk
To: All
Date Posted: 08:49:44 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
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To my view electricity and water supply are very paramount at this moment. It is natural that people always volunteer to clean or do something for their country when they are happy about the situation of that country.
With the provision of these two basic necessities, i am quite confident that Sierraleoneans would do anything for
their country free of charge.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 10:20:26 10/13/07 ()
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Sgk, kudos for your electricity and water supply contribution. There are so many problems to solve that we may not even know where to begin.
Let's please explore Sam's sanitation idea for Freetown:
1) The government should order and install huge, mobile garbage bins (or contract it to a private company locally or in the diaspora).
2) A massive information campaign should be undertaken on radio, tv and the papers to educate people about garbage disposal in the streets.
3) Employ the unemployed youth as sweepers, cleaners and gutter cleaners at night (too many people and traffic congestion during the day). Pay a decent salary (every two weeks) and closely monitor the payrolls to avoid ghost workers.
4) Divide Freetown into sanitation regions headed by sanitation directors. Break up the regions further into streeets headed by sanitation supervisors. If this works, we can repeat this formula in the headquarter towns.
We could really end up with cleaner streets and happier, gainfully employed young people, if the govt is serious about tackling the country's many problems.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: SGK
To: All
Date Posted: 11:27:56 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
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What i am trying to say here is cleaning the country can be done voluntarily if the people are happy with the performance of the government. Our people are easy to win
over. Provide the basics and tell everyone that cleaning should be done at a specific time of the month or week say.
They would be very delighted to clean their environment.
The government does not need to even pay the youth. The money should be spent otherwise. If it was done during the NPRC dictatorship era, why not now when most people are happy with this government?
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 12:45:22 10/13/07 ()
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Message:
The post was "HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!" The electricity problem unfortunately, can not be fixed in thirty days. Pa Kabbah, whether he was lying or not I don't know, made it seem like by December this year, we would have light. Now the current government is saying 2009.
So again, sticking with the post, what can be done to make an impact in thrity days, clean the city. Obviously the filth is being cause by some of those living in Freetown, but there are others who are disgusted and unmotivated partly because when they look around their city, first thing they see is filth. You clean up, you motivate people. they have something to be excited about.
And we are not talking about a one time fix here. So yes, while you could mobilize people to volunteer, they won't be volunteering every week. We need paid folks who can do meaningful work and be proud of what they are doing and at the same time, feed their family.
Electricity is paramount and along with water, should be on top of the president's need to accomplish in the next six months' list. But as someone else stated somewhere else on this board, the honeymoon is over. Time to deliver and cleaning the city which in my opinion is the easiest to accomplish task at hand, would go a long way.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 11:58:17 10/13/07 ()
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Volunteerism does not really have a happy history in Sierra Leone. Many people who 'volunteered' to clean the streets during the NPRC's tenure only did so because they feared the beatings and molestation meted out to non-volunteers.
Even if all the people have well rounded tummies with oily tooth picks hanging from their greasy, well fed lips, and they are bathed in 24/7 electricity, most wouldn't want to fool around with Bormeh garbage and gutter crap.
The solution is to employ people for the job and pay them decent wages. It is a better, long-term strategy than volunteerism. You can put mechanisms in place to ensure that the sanitation enterprise does not become another unwieldy bureaucracy. Besides, you get the additional benefit of giving a decent job to the hopeless masses of unemployed youths.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: SGK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:49:20 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
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Message:
Mammy Blessings,
Your proposals are all fine on a long term bases. But i don't think they are feasible at this desperate moment.
Remember that Sierra Leone is the poorest country in the world except Niger if i am correct. If the government can
afford the cost i would rather see these tasks done simultaneously. What you are doing here is imposing western conditions on a country which is ranked the poorest in the world. Also remember that a baby creeps before it walks. I don't think those proposals are applicable at this moment when the people desperately need results. However, if EBK's government can afford it then he should go for it. I have got no right to underestimate his government. I am just suggesting that
the people take the issue of electricity and water more
seriously than the cleaning. Though a clean environment
would improve their health.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 15:45:31 10/13/07 ()
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aybo ow una keen mek nor understand so? We all want light and water NOW. But that takes millions and time. Even if EK got a call from say the UK tomorrow and they told him they like what he is doing so far and to help him out, they will send brand new power generators and supply oil for a year and expertise to run and maintain the equipment guess what? To diassemble the machines, put them on a ship, get them to Freetown and set them up again, it will take at least 60-90 days. They post here is "HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!"
And besides, the filth is a symbol of how run down our country has gotten, being poor does not mean you have to be dirty. Besides, EK can turn on lights, but he can't maintain them if he can't keep Salone clean.
Can posters expound on how the govt can maintain cleanliness after the initial cleaning exercise. The reason I ask is because unlike here in the US, you can't have people put out their garbage so to speak. The bins will be gone before they even touch the pavement. And you can't have a dump on every corner. So what is a suggestion(s)?
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 13:30:35 10/13/07 ()
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I know that a baby creeps before it walks. However given the tough situation we are in, this baby is just gonna have to get up and run. All the problems that we have been talking about need to be confronted some time, if we are serious about getting the country out of the boondocks. I absolutely believe that we have the resources to get into the country mobile generators that are more powerful than anything we have ever had (check the unspent NACSA millions) before Christmas. This is not a Pa Kabba-like Bumbuma election hype. It is do-able and practical. Cleaning the streets of Freetown with salaried workers is also do-able and cost-effective at that. You actually can kill the unemployment bird and the unsanitary bird with one stone! SGK, believe me buddy, this is no imposition of western conditions. Those beautiful things we want our country to achieve will not happen unless we make a focused, determined effort.
Subject: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: Koboko
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Date Posted: 06:41:30 10/13/07 ()
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it was rumoured that the president has earmarked Bra Iscandri for the position of Minister of Justice. after taking a look at the ministrial list, Bra Iscandri's name has not featured so far. what happened? could it have been of a change of mind by Prezzo. i hope he is given a chance this time because he is very brilliant and has something to offer.
Subject: Re: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
To: All
Date Posted: 09:23:31 10/13/07 ()
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Koboko,
Thanks for your reposit of faith in me. I am however not activly seeking an appointment to any position in sierra leone. I am gainfully employed in the US of A. However, If called by my president to serve, I will discuss that with the usual stake holders (my family) prior to making any decision to serve in any capacity. I would however decline a job as Minister of Justice as long as sierra leone has a death penalty statute which I would be constitunally obligated to uphold. I am simply put an anti death penalty activist. I will actively lobby this parliament and president to come into the fold of other nations, and abolish the death penalty.
In the history of sierra leone the death penalty has been mostly used against political opponents and President Koroma must lead the way in abolishing the death penalty in sierra leone, or precluding its use for any political crimes.
Of course that does not preclude my working within the department of Justice in another capacity.
I thought that I could leave this forum but unfortunately I couldnt stop peeping and responding to positive posts.
Stay Blessed.
Subject: Re: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 23:21:50 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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Alieu, you are not qualify to hold the position of Attorney-General and minister of justice because you are not a lawyer of a twenty year standing in Sierra Leone. That is the law.
Apart from that, please do not forget that Mr. Ernest Koroma has your past record and it does not meet his criteria.
Subject: Re: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: Sabanoh
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Date Posted: 06:57:51 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
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Besides Alieu not meeting Ernest's criteria, Ernest will not leave his classmates,Frank Kargbo( who is an outstanding attorney in Freetown) and Idrissa Bassey to pick Alieu whose motives are not transparent. Alieu's stance against the death penalty is indicative of his respect or lack thereof for victim's right. He come from the school that murderers can and must be rehabilitated at the expense of the gov't and society even if they kill again after their initial incarceration.
Subject: Re: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: Sabanoh
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Date Posted: 06:53:57 10/14/07 ()
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Besides Alieu not meeting Ernest's criteria, Ernest will not leave his classmates,Frank Kargbo( who is an outstanding attorney in Freetown) and Idrissa Bassey to pick Alieu whose motives are not transparent. Alieu's stance against the death penalty is indicative of his respect or lack thereof for victim's right. He come from the school that murderers can and must be rehabilitated at the expense of the gov't and society even if they kill again after their initial incarceration.
Subject: Re: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: KABBS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 09:38:36 10/13/07 ()
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Alieu, give me a call. I want to find out something from you.
Subject: SIERRA LEONE'S BLOOD DIAMONDS AND AMERICAN RAPPER
From: MOHAMEDBARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 05:16:22 10/13/07 ()
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CNN IS TO SHOW A DOCUMENTARY ON CNN SATURDAY MORNING STARTING AT 7 AM WITH AN AMERICAN RAPPER WHO WENT TO SIERRA LEONE'S DIAMOND MINES TO DO A RAP VIDEO ON BLOOD DIAMONDS . NOT MUCH INFO AT THIS TIME.
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE'S BLOOD DIAMONDS AND AMERICAN RAPPER
From: PAUL WALL
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Date Posted: 08:34:07 10/13/07 ()
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TO BE SHOWN ON CNN TOMMORRO RAPPING ABOUT SALONE'S BLING
Subject: THIS IS SO VERY TRUE
From: reality
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Date Posted: 05:00:09 10/13/07 ()
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Welcome to the S.L.P.P. Forum
Re: Shame
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Posted by Why on October 13, 2007 at 04:49:28:
In Reply to: Re: Shame posted by x on October 13, 2007 at 04:02:20:
"Mannah believes in democracy, he writes objectively and such attributes cannot be taken away from him."
How can you take take away something from Mannah that he does not have?
You head-in-the sand people are the reason why the SLPP was demolished in the elections. You bury your head in the sand and refuse to see reality. So, when Margai broke away, you foolishly boasted he was no threat to the SLPP's victory. Now, you look like the fools you were for saying such nonsense.
But you still haven't learnt your lesson. Here you are agaqin praising a life-long loser like John Mannah who still can't even write english properly, as someone you have learnt a lot from. Do you like learning bad English? Do you like learning how to argue without sense? Do you like learning how to use bad words in public? Do you want to learn how to lie about things you are not?
Then go ahead and "learn" from John Mannah how not to write English and how not to argue, and how to lie about yourself, and how to use bad words in public. But leave me out of it. I don't share your view. I just wish Mannah would go and learn english and how to argue. Most of all, I wish John Mannah would go and learn some good home training so that he would stop trashing our forum with his rude words.
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Subject: Re: THIS IS SO VERY TRUE
From: I like this better
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Date Posted: 05:15:29 10/13/07 ()
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Welcome to the S.L.P.P. Forum
Re: Shame
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Posted by SLPP Veteran on October 13, 2007 at 04:33:38:
In Reply to: Shame posted by John Mannah fan on October 12, 2007 at 18:09:26:
You are right, my brother. The name John is disaster to our party. The two people abroad that made our party to lose the election because of their lack of home training, lack of logic, lack of grammar and lack of self-respect whenever they open their mouth in public are John Mannah and John Leigh. The two people inside Sierra Leone that made our party to lose the election becos of their corruption in Kailahun during the election are John Benjamin and John Karimu.
Of all of them, to my mind, John Mannah suffers the most from low self esteem. That is what makes him to look down upon himself. To cover up his low self-esteem, John Mannah tries to bring everybody down to his level (Pull him Down or PhD).
Because John Mannah don't respect himself, therefore he don't respect others. Don't you see how he use bad language in public? And how he cusses those that are his superiors left and right? The man is so conscious of his poverty that he hates anyone that is not poor like him. Because he is slow in thinking, he don't understand that he is an outlier. So, he thinks that people are like him -- that they want to be a minister in politics to steal money.
I blame our party, too. If our party SLPP did not tolerate people like John Mannah, it would have expelled John Mannah from the party from the first time he made our party look bad to the public. That was when our party should have realized that John Mannah is not all correct in his head.
Is it not a man whose head is not correct that goes around boasting that he is something that everyone knows he is not? That's John Mannah for you. He will not see that he is disgracing himself and our party every time he opens his moutn in public.
So he won't shut his mouth like you asked him to. Only the SLPP can shut him up by expelling him from our party.
Subject: Re: THIS IS SO VERY TRUE
From: Calling Toegondoe Sagbah to the Podium
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Date Posted: 05:24:55 10/13/07 ()
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Re: An Apology and Plea to Debunge and Fellow Forumites
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Posted by Joseph Marrah on October 13, 2007 at 05:12:42:
In Reply to: Re: An Apology and Plea to Debunge and Fellow Forumites posted by Toegondoe Sagbah on October 12, 2007 at 22:59:53:
It takes a man to admit a fault, but it takes a man of integrity to appologize.
Toegondoe,
It takes a man of integrity to speak the truth. Has John Mannah apologized to Mohamed jalloh, the victim of his treacherous and malicious lies?
I hope you will start acting like a man of integrity by stopping this mealy-mouthed talk about Mannah being a man of integrity. Do men of integrity go arround telling lies about soemone they do not know? What man of integrity will make allegations about someone and when asked to prove them, he runs away? You people have to learn to speak the truth for a change. Otherwise, you risk becoming just like John Mannah -- a man so lacking in integrity that he tells lies about those he wishes to be like but can not quite work hard enough to become like them.
So, what does John Mannah do to avoid facing the painful reality that he is not up to the high standards of those he wishes to be like? He tries to pull them down! Do you call such a person like John Mannah a man of integrity? That would just expose you as lacking integrity yourself.
Subject: THIS TIME IT IS NOT EKUTAY BUT TOLONGBO OR TAMARANEH
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 04:40:52 10/13/07 ()
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The days of EKUTAY were long gone;
When the new APC born.
Now it is TOLONGBO
From Kenema to Songo.
You can leave Freetown for Bo
If you need to eat some freetambo.
It can also be TAMARANEH
When what failed us was WUTETEH.
So let us look to the future
We know it will be a brighter Salone for sure.
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Subject: Re: Discount cigarettes on-line
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 04:22:12 10/13/07 ()
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While people are struggling so hard to kick the habit you are busy promoting cancerogenics.Please spare us self-destruction.
Subject: Cornelius Hamelberg went Ballistics:Cuss Cuss nor mix
From: Alieu Oil
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Date Posted: 00:40:19 10/13/07 ()
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Ignorant son of bitch, I asked you for your name.
I am somebody else you see Mr. Ignorant Imbecile of many lies.
And which ideas are you talking about?
You don't know what an idea is.... perhaps you don't know the kind of idiot you are and what do you know apart from telling lies?
Subject: RUMOURS, QUESTIONS and COMMENTS
From: Mensa
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Date Posted: 22:23:57 10/12/07 ()
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To start with, we've got to feel free and be prepared to be a bit more tolerant. Some of the questions I may ask are just natural and in fact, they might just as well help us examine the elasticity of tolerance for some of our emerging APC diehards. Frankly, I can afford to be APC, but not a diehard because the word 'diehard' is too close to 'fundamentalist' and both can bring 'terminal' repercussions to someone in the region where I live.
Well, we all hear things about our country, the President and his Cab….
Now, wait a minute! Haven't I heard this 'Cab' thing before?
Oh, yes! It's got to do with the Vice President, Sam Sumana.
You see, what I had in mind, while trying to get a topic of discussion, was the word 'Cabinet'. But then, the caption shouldn't be unnecessarily long. So I decided to cut it short with the word 'Cab'. Funnily, it open up this issue I earlier read in this very forum about the VP being a former 'Cab' driver. [Strictly American VoCab.! – (There you go again, running from one Cab to another!).] But in our normal speak, we say, 'Running from one Taxi to another fighting to make a living'! So, should my caption now end with 'The President and his Cab Driver,' or 'The President and his Former Cab Driver'? Of course, neither! But it tells us one thing: As long as you are in the political spotlight, you should be prepared to be ridiculed. Not defamed though!
Yet, does it sound good to say: 'Running from one cab to another fighting to make a living'? After all, you could be sacked in one cab company and you go search for another.
Well, VP Sumana allegedly came with it! I mean lots of cab money!
No! 'Cab dollars' sounds better. [In my region, we say petrodollars.]
And delivered to the APC stalwarts before the elections.
RUMOUR No. 1: We heard that the money was from a pool of sympathizers who aspire to become potential partners in the development of Sierra Leone.
QUESTIONS: What are the expectations of these sympathizers? Will they remain sincere in their objective to help in the development of Sierra Leone? Are they waiting for Serious Sam to be well established and they surface to milk the returns of their previous investment? Could it have been a one-man show or does our country stand to bleed in future?
COMMENT: If you feel uncomfortable, then forget it. It's just a notable rumour.
RUMOUR No. 2: Just after taking office, President Koroma briefly visited Liberia, Guinea and Burkina Faso. Rumour has it that the real motive for going to these three countries was to block/arrest SLPP former ministers who would attempt to escape prosecution from the impending corruption heat in Sierra Leone.
QUESTIONS: Was there any grand plan for the PMDC leader, Charles Margai, to unleash a campaign of witch-hunting against former SLPP ministers before or after the elections? If yes, then why didn't he get the post of Attorney General? Is he going to be Interior Minister? If no, then forget it. It's just a notable rumour. Is Burkina Faso still important in the sustainance of peace in Sierra Leone?
COMMENT: President Koroma may have impressed a lot by playing his cards close to his chest. He's got to prove that he is his own man. He deliberated omitted Charles Margai in the first release of Ministerial positions to establish the fact that he is in control. Thus, we see the logic behind the two installments of releases! Could be more that two…..who knows!
RUMOUR No. 3: We heard that Hon. Zainab Bangura once worked in the same Insurance Company that the President, Ernest Bai Koroma, was heading.
QUESTIONS: Was it a good relationship? When she eventually left, did she misbehave or was it an amicable parting? Did he appoint her as Foreign Minister because he knows her output or because he wants to prove to her that he harbours no ill feelings and that she has been forgiven, or both?
COMMENT: We love her for being tough. But then, when she happens to find herself working under the same soft-spoken boss, she only has to remember that he is now the president. Perhaps, it will make a difference.
Next issue: There'll be more Essetial Rumours and Comments but on other topics like Oil/petrol discovery in Sierra Leone, the solution to the APC in-fighting, the disappointment of Hon. Abu Bakar Jalloh [Ambassador to Saudi Arabia was his preference] and more. Stay netted. For now, I just need to get some sleep!
Remember though: If you feel uncomfortable, then it's just a notable rumour.
Subject: Re: RUMOURS, QUESTIONS and COMMENTS
From: Somtin Butu!
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Date Posted: 05:20:57 10/13/07 ()
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There are so many rumours about Oil in Sierra Leone. That is something I am dying to get info, any info, about!
Subject: RUMOURS, QUESTIONS and COMMENTS
From: Mensa
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Date Posted: 22:23:06 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
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To start with, we've got to feel free and be prepared to be a bit more tolerant. Some of the questions I may ask are just natural and in fact, they might just as well help us examine the elasticity of tolerance for some of our emerging APC diehards. Frankly, I can afford to be APC, but not a diehard because the word 'diehard' is too close to 'fundamentalist' and both can bring 'terminal' repercussions to someone in the region where I live.
Well, we all hear things about our country, the President and his Cab….
Now, wait a minute! Haven't I heard this 'Cab' thing before?
Oh, yes! It's got to do with the Vice President, Sam Sumana.
You see, what I had in mind, while trying to get a topic of discussion, was the word 'Cabinet'. But then, the caption shouldn't be unnecessarily long. So I decided to cut it short with the word 'Cab'. Funnily, it open up this issue I earlier read in this very forum about the VP being a former 'Cab' driver. [Strictly American VoCab.! – (There you go again, running from one Cab to another!).] But in our normal speak, we say, 'Running from one Taxi to another fighting to make a living'! So, should my caption now end with 'The President and his Cab Driver,' or 'The President and his Former Cab Driver'? Of course, neither! But it tells us one thing: As long as you are in the political spotlight, you should be prepared to be ridiculed. Not defamed though!
Yet, does it sound good to say: 'Running from one cab to another fighting to make a living'? After all, you could be sacked in one cab company and you go search for another.
Well, VP Sumana allegedly came with it! I mean lots of cab money!
No! 'Cab dollars' sounds better. [In my region, we say petrodollars.]
And delivered to the APC stalwarts before the elections.
RUMOUR No. 1: We heard that the money was from a pool of sympathizers who aspire to become potential partners in the development of Sierra Leone.
QUESTIONS: What are the expectations of these sympathizers? Will they remain sincere in their objective to help in the development of Sierra Leone? Are they waiting for Serious Sam to be well established and they surface to milk the returns of their previous investment? Could it have been a one-man show or does our country stand to bleed in future?
COMMENT: If you feel uncomfortable, then forget it. It's just a notable rumour.
RUMOUR No. 2: Just after taking office, President Koroma briefly visited Liberia, Guinea and Burkina Faso. Rumour has it that the real motive for going to these three countries was to block/arrest SLPP former ministers who would attempt to escape prosecution from the impending corruption heat in Sierra Leone.
QUESTIONS: Was there any grand plan for the PMDC leader, Charles Margai, to unleash a campaign of witch-hunting against former SLPP ministers before or after the elections? If yes, then why didn't he get the post of Attorney General? Is he going to be Interior Minister? If no, then forget it. It's just a notable rumour. Is Burkina Faso still important in the sustainance of peace in Sierra Leone?
COMMENT: President Koroma may have impressed a lot by playing his cards close to his chest. He's got to prove that he is his own man. He deliberated omitted Charles Margai in the first release of Ministerial positions to establish the fact that he is in control. Thus, we see the logic behind the two installments of releases! Could be more that two…..who knows!
RUMOUR No. 3: We heard that Hon. Zainab Bangura once worked in the same Insurance Company that the President, Ernest Bai Koroma, was heading.
QUESTIONS: Was it a good relationship? When she eventually left, did she misbehave or was it an amicable parting? Did he appoint her as Foreign Minister because he knows her output or because he wants to prove to her that he harbours no ill feelings and that she has been forgiven, or both?
COMMENT: We love her for being tough. But then, when she happens to find herself working under the same soft-spoken boss, she only has to remember that he is now the president. Perhaps, it will make a difference.
Next issue: There'll be more Essetial Rumours and Comments but on other topics like Oil/petrol discovery in Sierra Leone, the solution to the APC in-fighting, the disappointment of Hon. Abu Bakar Jalloh [Ambassador of Saudi Arabia was his preference] and more. Stay netted. For now, I just need to get some sleep!
Remember though: If you feel uncomfortable, then it's just a notable rumour.
Subject: Re: RUMOURS, QUESTIONS and COMMENTS
From: news
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Date Posted: 04:45:43 10/13/07 ()
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People who have used to be in the corridor of power, never learn to forget their gains and sordid mind to plunder their nations'wealth.When they lose their priviledges and influence, they conjured evil tactics to scare away those who inherited the sorry State, they pillaged.
How many new appointees can be pointed at and tag him/ner with malfeasance. There is no one. The APC appointment brings hope and nobody will curse these honourable gentlemen.
2007 will ever be recorded as the year that God gives Sierra Leoneans a golden opportunity to move forward with hope and victory.
Our people will stand by those who sing praises to our great people who will puh Sierra Leone forward.
Subject: Re: Additional cabinet
From: Bankie Liba man
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Date Posted: 21:44:39 10/12/07 ()
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Any word on the new cabinet?
Subject: Re: Additional cabinet
From: Alieu Oil
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Date Posted: 23:51:05 10/12/07 ()
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1.Defence - Mr.Palo Conteh
2.Internal Affairs, Local Government and Rural Development - Mr.Dauda Sulaiman Kamara
3.Marine Resources - Dr.Moses Moisa-Kapu
4.Energy and Power - Haja Afsatu Kabbah
5.Tourism and Cultural Affairs - Mr.Hindolo Trye
6.Social Welfare Gender and Childrens Affairs - Mrs.Musu Kandeh
7.Education Youths and Sports - Dr. Minkailu Bah
8.Employment and Social Security - Mr.Minkailu Mansaray
9.Trade and Industry - Mr. Alimamy Koroma
10.Transport and Aviation - Mr. Kemoh Sesay
Subject: To what tribe does Ernest Koroma really belong?
From: Alpha Barrie
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Date Posted: 21:41:12 10/12/07 ()
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There has been some conflicting report at home and abroad about Ernest Koroma in relation to his tribal affiliation. Does anyone know for sure his tribe? If so, please explain in detail.
Subject: Profile: Ernest Bai Koroma, Sierra Leone’s new head of state
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 02:27:40 10/13/07 ()
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Profile: Ernest Bai Koroma, Sierra Leone’s new head of state
By Mohamed Samura, APA correspondent, Freetown
APA-Freetown (Sierra Leone) Sierra Leone’s newly elected President Ernest Bai Koroma, commonly called Ernest by his closest friends was born on October 2, 1953, in Makeni, capital of the Northern Region, one of eight siblings and the eldest of four boys.
Koroma’s parents are both from the north, his father from the Temne ethic group, the dominant ethic group in the north and the second largest in the country and his mother, a Limba. He was brought up as a Christian in the Muslim dominated northern part of the country.
Koroma attended the Sierra Leone Church Primary School, then the Government Secondary School (for boys) in Magburaka in the Northern Region. He later went to Fourah Bay College, University of Sierra Leone. He graduated in 1976 from Fourah Bay College following which he taught at the St Francis Secondary School in Makeni before joining the Sierra Leone National Insurance Company in 1978. He however moved over to the Reliance Insurance Trust Corporation (Ritcorp) in 1985 and became its Managing Director in 1988, a position he outstandingly held up to March 2002.
Koroma then resigned from Ritcorp to join politics and he was unanimously elected as leader/chairman of the opposition All People’s Congress (APC), and its presidential candidate for the March 2002 presidential elections. He however lost the elections to the ex-President Ahmed Tejan Kabbah, who won by over 60% in the first round. As leader of the APC, Koroma was however hit by a series of court cases against his youthful leadership and relying on the 2002 APC Constitution, he was eventually stripped of the party leadership by the Supreme Court of Sierra Leone in June 2005.
However, he was again re-elected leader of the APC at a national delegates’ conference in September 2005 and went on to become the minority leader in the Sierra Leone Parliament until his election to the presidency this year.
Under his leadership, the APC swept virtually all the seats in the Western Area during the last local government elections of 2004. This was in spite of the fact that some of the old guard of the APC dismissed his leadership as a matter of child’s play. However, President Koroma’s leadership style is a blend of old and new.
An astute business man and a Chartered Insurer, President Koroma is also a Fellow of the West African Insurance Institute (WAICA), an Associate of the Institute of Risk Management in the UK and a Member of the Institute of Directors in the UK. He also holds an unblemished and enviable public service record and spouts himself as a darling of democracy, the rule of law, human rights, good governance and probity, freedom of the press, transparency and accountability. Indeed, his admirers say he is not only a fine gentleman but also the hope for Sierra Leone’s future.
President Koroma, who will turn 54 years old on Tuesday October 2nd, was put forward as presidential candidate by the APC congress as "the democratic hope for Sierra Leone" which they described as "a country at the cross roads of change from the old order to a younger generation of visionary leadership of hope and development".
Koroma is tall, handsome, with a ’leadership jaw’ and a commanding presence. He is happily married to Sia Nyama Koroma from Kono District in the Eastern Province, ex-pupil of Annie Walsh Memorial School who holds a post-graduate degree in Bio-Chemistry from London University. His matrimonial blend transcends tribal and regional politics. They are blessed with two children, Alice and Dankay. He is widely travelled to the world’s leading democracies and beyond. He has vowed to be implacable in fighting corruption. "There will be no sacred cows. Everybody will be under scrutiny", he said in his election manifesto.
Subject: Re: Profile: Ernest Bai Koroma, Sierra Leone’s new head of state
From: SANTOS MANGA
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Date Posted: 04:44:04 10/13/07 ()
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A brother I knew back in makeni told me yesterday that his dad is Loko and mother Limba. He is not Themene. His ethnic identity however, is insignificant. For most of us what is important is that he delivers.
Subject: Re: Profile: Ernest Bai Koroma, Sierra Leone’s new head of state
From: Limba-Loko-Temne-Madingo
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Date Posted: 10:28:01 10/13/07 ()
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We know for sure that his mother is a Limba from Kamabai, Briwa Chiefdom. As for his father, it has bee rumored that he has a Madingo connection. How? I don't know!!! Time will tell and historians will write it his biography.
Subject: Re: To what tribe does Ernest Koroma really belong?
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 02:19:58 10/13/07 ()
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If your father hails from Yonnibana and you were born in Makeni to which tribe do you actually belong? Please do the thinking and figure it out for yourself!
Subject: Re: To what tribe does Ernest Koroma really belong?
From: Amadu Kabbah
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Date Posted: 00:48:29 10/13/07 ()
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If it is so important that you may not want to go without an answer, I think I know his tribe. He is a Sierra Leonean.
Subject: Re: To what tribe does Ernest Koroma really belong?
From: BouBakree
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Date Posted: 21:44:02 10/12/07 ()
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And why is this information so important Sir?
Subject: Candid One, Why Selleth Thy Soul To SLPP ?
From: Fen Plaba
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Date Posted: 21:39:30 10/12/07 ()
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Candid One,
I have noticed that you are one of the most intransigent SLPP ideologues in cyberspace. In posting after posting, you have tried to savage the duly elected president with your corny witticisms that belie your growling resentment at the APC for giving the 'Koboko' to your beloved SLPP, in the Mother of all electoral trouncings. When your incompetent SLPP was making a mockery of good governance and integrity, you were one of the pot-bellied cheerleaders assidiously singing 'bellah' songs for Kabbah and company. For eleven years, you were as silent as a lonely grave as your SLPP kith and kin robbed the country blind. Why are you now howling, like a rabid wolf, at the APC who are barely a month into their mandate? Are you scared that the rising sun is going to succeed massively even as the hobbled SLPP yelps from the green gangrene setting in from their self-inflicted corruption?
Bad hart nor mix O, Mister man. Whether you like it or not, Ernest will succeed and there's not a darn thing you or the other batolistas of the palm tree can do about it!
Subject: Re: Candid One, Why Selleth Thy Soul To SLPP ?
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 08:48:31 10/13/07 ()
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Is there anything wrong with being loyal to a party? Not every sierra leonean is an opportunist .SLPP yesterday, APC today, PMDC tommorrow. We will stay in SLPP and ensure that it makes the necessary changes.
SLPP lost the elections because of over confidence and arrogance. it had nothing to do with the help of APC fanatics in the diaspora. The electorates booted them out ,specifically Tejan Kabba's insensitivity to the plight of the people.
President Koroma is a novice , His inexperience is shown in his cabinet appointments. You do not appoint an auditor as a finance minister. You appoint a financial analyst who has banking or business experience. Someone who can negotiate with the world bank and international business. He needs someone looking forward who will be planning Sierra Leonean's financial future for the next ten years not some one who is going to investigate the past ten years. Why waste precious resources in looking backwards.
Hire an international firm to do the audits and let the finance minister concentrate on Sierra Leone's financial development. David Carew should have been part of the audit team whilst qualified former bank governers like Sampha and other qualified financial whizzes considered for the minister.
Even, If the govt audits all the ministeries , I doubt that they will recover more than $15,000,000 of looted funds if any.Look at the cost benefit.You need to spend more time building International goodwill. It is easier to send names of the ministers to interpol and forensic accounting companies to trace the funds than to waste ministry time.
The bottom line ,the loyal SLPP are not going keep quiet , they will criticize APC when the need arises. This is a democracy not a dictatorship. It is easy to crticize when in the oposition. Now it is time to deliver. I am not impressed so far. I praise Ernest for keeping away the old APC.
Subject: Re: Candid One, Why Selleth Thy Soul To SLPP ?
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 11:00:48 10/13/07 ()
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Kamara, as eloquently as you may try to convince us that the SLPP emperor was nattily dressed, the fact remains that, your incompetent potentate was naked. SLPP did not lose the "elections because of over confidence and arrogance", as you tried to spin it. They lost because they were incompetent, left the economy in a shambles and did not build even one "four road turn table" during their eleven years in power. They were also very, very corrupt. I am sure SLPP corruption is something you and I can agree on.
I disagree with you, however, that David Carew should not be appointed Finance Minister because he is an auditor. We've had plenty finance whiz kids and bankers in that ministry. Well....look at the result. Very unimpressive indeed! Just having a surgeon-specialist as Minister of Health is not going to solve the country's health crisis. What we need is a good manager who will shape up the ministry, and David Carew definitely fits the bill.
Kamara, I mean no disrespect to your party but EBK has more vision and competence in his little pinky than all the SLPP presidents and prime ministers put together. Get ready to be amazed by sheer genius, my friend. I will bet you $100 that you will 'cross-carpet' to the APC after Ernest has finished polishing off those problems that scared the bejesus out of your sorry party. O-KARMA, DIS NOR TO PIKIN BIZNESS O. IF U NOR DRINK GBANGBAN NOR ENTER YAR O!
Subject: Re: Candid One, Why Selleth Thy Soul To SLPP ?
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 20:16:51 10/13/07 ()
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Mammy blessing, I am a loyal SLPP supporter that will stay to make changes. I can never crosscarpet to APC. If I was going to do that , I would have done that long ago as a cousin of mine late AB Kamara was a VP for APC at one time.
Lets face it , Ernest or Charles are nowhere as intelligent as Soloman Berewa. Berewa is a lawyer and accountant. Berewa was not a savy poltician or orator. If he were trained politician, he would have known not to trust the people who told him the north was solidly behind him.
I think , you better visit Sierra Leone to see what SLPP did in 11 years. Starting with the airport. It is 1000 times better than it was in 1992.
Ernest is a beneficiary of APC chronoism. I agree that David Carew is the best FInance minister that Sierra Leone has had for a long time., but the Finance position should not be given to an auditor. It should be a person with experience in international banking like Sampha Koroma. The nation does not need a finance minister looking ten years backwards, it needs a minister looking forward ten years.
Rome was not built in a day . I do not expect Ernest to solve Sierra Leone's problems in 5 years. Sierra Leoneans have to do that. The govt can create an environment in which individuals can realize their dreams without fear. SLPP did that. International business had started coming back, Airlines had started coming. Go to the supermarkets in Willkinson road they are full with everything. This would trickle down to the poor man later like in every capitalistic nation.
APC?PMDC enjoy your five years because you would be booted out if you do not deliver. Do not make the SLPP arrogant mistake that money can buy the Sierra Leonean electorate.
Subject: Re: Candid One, Why Selleth Thy Soul To SLPP ?
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 23:30:58 10/13/07 ()
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"APC?PMDC enjoy your five years because you would be booted out if you do not deliver"---Kamara.
Agreed, Brother Kamara. However, I believe that Ernest is gonna succeed. Some of us are very dogged about bringing change that the average man in the street will feel. We will continue to offer solutions and raise hell, and push, nudge and shove until change is effected...to avoid the electoral guillotine in 2012! Always enjoyed my exchanges with you Okama. You have never folded like a cheap camera before. A worthy and patriotic Sierra Leonean indeed. Sure we cannot cajole you to crosscarpet, buddy? Enjoy the rest of the evening sir.
Subject: SLPP and the Mining Contracts.
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 20:46:17 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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The corrupt mining contracts that the SLPP government signed with shady mob bosses, particularly from the former Soviet bloc, needs to be urgently reviewed. For example, a shadowy refugee from the law, the Romanian criminal Vasile Frank Timis was virtually sold about half of Sierra Leone, to dig, blast and bulldoze for diamonds, as a result of the corrupt contracts he signed with the SLPP government. Timis is the head of Sierra Leone Diamond Company, which is constantly dynamiting the area around Koidu as it tries to crush the Kimberlite dykes. What do the people of Sierra Leone get from this odious business deal? Next to nothing! A measly 1.5% of profits, which equals Zero, after clever Hollywood accounting and under-the-table money exchanges.
President Koroma, please review SLDC’s twenty licenses and toss them out if a whiff of corruption stinks through. We need the money to grow the economy and fund the socioeconomic promises.
http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_200575.shtml
Subject: CABINET UPDATE
From: Newsflash
To: All
Date Posted: 20:10:33 10/12/07 ()
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Rev Kabs, please provide Forumites with the updated list of APC Cabinet Ministers. I hear that Haja Afsatu Kabba is Minister of Energy and Hindolo Sumanguru Trye is Minister of Tourism. Is is true?
Subject: Mr President dae in full control bra
From: Law
To: All
Date Posted: 18:10:22 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: delaw80@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-65-96-54-253.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 65.96.54.253
Message:
Front page posting to the other on cocorioko it is all glory for poyo boy EBK and the good work he is doing. Of course it is cocorioko so what should we expect? goodies about APC for sure. If i should deviant from that and post anything different bra Kabs will either call forum police to delete my writing or thunderbolt vernons will storm with response and name calling like "you SLPPer" etc etc. Honestly EBK is doing a good job especially after having a taste of his first official monthly salary. Like Tejan k did with SLPP, EBKoroma seats and listens attentively to APC folks as they yap and yap in there secret meetings but when he comes out in the open he does the opposite. His first cabinet is a clear example, the opportunists that gave up there jobs, sold their houses and ran to Freetown for a job from Koroma are complainings that he does not listen to advice and the advices are the promises that are yet to be fulfilled. Fanatics like Victor high barb FOH are a little on easy because of the route EBK is taking. There is still hope anyways for these unpatriotic folks because the parastaltals, oversea appointments are yet to come, trust me if EBK continues on the path is he on now and appoint the right people in the right place devoid of party, regional politics and tribal sentiments the first zombies to complain will be the disgruntled APCer's that are runing back and forth from state house everyday, they have nothing left to turn back to so by all means possible EBK should give them a job. I can name five that left The States throwing away there scrubs from the 20 year old nursing home job and are now in suits parading the corners of Freetown as EBK's entourage/special assistants. If it becomes a free for all appointment, i hope cocorioko will be remembered for the propaganda role it played and at least Rev Kabs be considered for a position in The ministry of misinformation please.Koodoos poyo boy EBK, keep up the good work
Subject: Re: Mr President dae in full control bra
From: The Lover
To: All
Date Posted: 22:50:16 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.220
Message:
Pretty interesting isn't it, reading inputs from two top folks. One revealed as the other enjoyed the sanctuary of anonimity. Yet I happen to love the 'Bra' ending of the postings! Sounds poetic and revealing.
Subject: Re: Mr President dae in full control bra
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 20:51:37 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
You hart warm O, my mans! Nar for take am wasy O. 18,000 more days of warm hart go cook you liver, bra!
Subject: FOR MR. MOHAMED DARIGUE PLEASE
From: krio boy
To: All
Date Posted: 20:01:34 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: krioboy@yahoo.com
Entered From: wnpgmb11dc1-161-174-190.dynamic.mts.net at 142.161.174.190
Message:
I left a call for you after my email to you was returned.Can you please reach back to my since i want more talks on this airline you just mentioned about at cocorioko please?
Subject: Re: FOR MR. MOHAMED DARIGUE PLEASE
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 04:55:02 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
THE CORRECT EMAIL ADDRESS IS: mohamedbarigue@yahoo.fr or bariguetransitetvoyages@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Mr President dae in full control bra
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 19:43:53 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Miserable .Some Sierra Leoneans perform to get back something in return and you are one of them. I don't perform to get anything back.Otherwise , you would not have had a forum to express yourself . But you nar Salone man . Negativity...That's what defines us, so you nor miss road.
Subject: Re: Mr President dae in full control bra
From: Law
To: All
Date Posted: 19:57:41 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: delaw80@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-65-96-54-253.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 65.96.54.253
Message:
Kabs Kanu i am a proud SIERRA LEONEAN who prefer not to mortgage his heritage for anything. Reference to your comment "negativity and what defines us as Salone man" i hold my peace on that. My posting was to express my political view, if you do find it challenging there could have been a subtle way to react rather than implicatiing your so called "Salone Man" theory into it. Thanks for the forum and i must say also that you should appreciate me and several others who comment on issues that you find not in your favor, at least we keep you in business. Any bible verse for me to keep my Salone mind at ease with REV????
Subject: Benin 2-Salone 0
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 16:10:23 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
Can someone please confirm these results.
Subject: Re: Benin 2-Salone 0
From: From BBC
To: All
Date Posted: 16:34:52 10/12/07 ()
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Last Updated: Friday, 12 October 2007, 18:33 GMT 19:33 UK
E-mail this to a friend Printable version
Mali and Benin qualify for Ghana
Kanoute's first-half goal sent Mali on their way
Mali and Benin secured places at the 2008 Nations Cup finals with victories in their final Group Nine games on Friday.
Mali were 2-0 winners against Togo in Lome and finish top of the group.
Riots broke out at the Kegue Stadium, with Togo fans angry at the defeat.
Benin beat Sierra Leone in Freetown by the same scoreline, and qualify as one of the three best runners-up.
The results dashed the hopes of Uganda, who finished second in Group Three with 11 points, the same tally as Benin.
But the Squirrels had the better goal difference, and will make their second appearance at the Nations Cup finals next January.
Fans injured in Lome
Freddi Kanoute put Mali ahead towards the end of the first half, converting a cross from Bassala Toure.
Mamadou Diallo sealed the victory in second-half stoppage-time, in a game that Togo had to win if they were to qualify.
Some Togo supporters threw objects onto the pitch after the second goal, and the BBC's Ebow Godwin says that some spectators were injured and taken to hospital.
A crowd of just 5,000 watched Sierra Leone squander chances as they went behind to Benin after 10 minutes through a deflected shot from Oumar Tchomogo.
Tchomogo scored again 20 minutes into the second half, capitalising on a defensive error.
The Leone Stars have failed to win at home since 2003.
Mali will be back at the Nations Cup finals after missing out on the 2006 edition in Egypt.
Subject: RE: NPA
From: Bankie Liber Man
To: All
Date Posted: 15:33:47 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gate02c.merckmedco.com at 167.211.190.2
Message:
How about closing the entire NPA power house and invest in newer machines.
Subject: Re: RE: NPA
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:06:43 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.84.3
Message:
All the government of Sierra Leone has to do is to ask for help in the provision and execution of a Modern POWER Generation regime.
New Power generating machines will be needed. The current rigged up machines could be phased out in stages. If the Government is serious in ending the dark ages of Salone, Mobile industrial Generators could be requested from the wealthier Nations as part of a aid related package.
The GOSL may have to get to the heart of the BUMBUNA delays, noting that with high GOLD and Diamond prices,the incentive to complete this project,could be lost in the quest for wealth by project participants.
The country must think in terms of being a regional POWER GENERATING CENTRE, capable of meeting the Power NEEDS of the MRU.The Aluminum Barons of the globe have thier eyes set on the massive Bauxite deposits of the MRU,and are willing to spend some big bucks on
creating this reality. Electricity capacity is a huge component the creation of Alumina from raw BAUXITE.
This is a simple and obvious piece of advice. The Energy planners of Salone and the MRU, must make use of the internet in executing their plans.
Subject: Plans To Blackmail Cocorioko
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 15:28:03 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Another attentive person already started a thread on this, but I'm doing another one as the related article posted by Cocorioko is very very troublesome. First of Mr. Kanu, you know that I am a very strong supporter of what you are doing and quite appreciative of the fact that you have provided this news outlet for us. It is invaluable. However, your "Plans To Blackmail Cocorioko" article needs to be addressed. I started reading it, and it made you sound like Sylvia Blyden. These are not the types of articles that one reads about in the New York Times or other first class newspapers.
While this is obviously your newspaper, you have a journalistic obligation to understand that you are a public servant so to speak and to act accordingly. This is no longer about you. If someone shows up and threatens you with a gun because of Cocorioko, maybe that's newsworthy, but to start printing every congosah and jealousy attacks aimed at you, you're just swimming in the same pool as Sylvia Blyden.
Second and more importantly, I know Cocorioko actually claims to be partisan. You have that on your website. So to start crowing about being responsible for having removed the last administration, you not only have us questioning your alleged partisanship, but as a "man of God" aren't you begining to commit one or two of Pope Gregory's deadly sins? You taking glory for the change of leadership is an insult to Sierra Leoneans. The percentage of elgible voters who went out and did their civic duty was one of the highest in the world. I think they deserve the credit.
Also, obviously news gets around, but the majority of your readers reside outside SL and did not vote. I'm getting this picture of you running around in NJ telling everyone that will listen that you effected regime change back home. Acting like some of our loud mouthed fellow citizens overseas who thing they are big shots, are wont to act. As you can see, its not a pretty picture so stay humble.
When you're good, you're good and everyone will notice. You don't need to get on a soap box and start turning what is currently a respected newspaper, into your personal tabloid.
Another bit of advice, they have a term back home called pull him down (PhD) syndrome. So attacks will come your way, ignore them. They're a dime a dozen. You pay attention to them, you are wasting time on negative energy.
Lastly, please do not have Cocorioko start overly ingratiating itself to the government. One, it's no different from us calling Blyden a stooge of the SLPP and it obviously just throws your partisanship into the gutter. We Yone (or whichever one was Papa Shaki's newspaper) already exists for that.
Stay True.
Subject: HAPPY EID TO ALL PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 15:16:45 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Happy Eid to all practicing muslims and plese don't forget to give charity to the needy.
Subject: Re: HAPPY EID TO ALL PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 16:12:08 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: hsl9.cait.osr.columbia.edu at 156.111.18.78
Message:
Thanks and May Allah reward you too. Every muslim (That can afford it) must give Zakatul-Fitri which is a charity/tax specifically for Eid-Ul-Fitri (We call Muduu). The needy must enjoy this day with such donations..
Subject: Re: HAPPY EID TO ALL PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:37:01 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
Message:
Eid UL Mubarak to all my Muslim brothers and sisters the world over.
May Allah accept our fasting and continues to surround us with his protection.
RABBANAAA 'AFRIG ALAYNAA SABRANW-WA SABBIT'AQDAAMANAA
WAN-SURNAA'ALAL-QAWMIL-KAA-FIRIIN. AMIN.
Subject: Re: HAPPY EID TO ALL PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
From: Mohamed Salleh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:39:04 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
They said to all practicing muslims, that excludes you who gets involved with juju and other occult matters.
Subject: Re: HAPPY EID TO ALL PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:24:56 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thanks my brother happy Eid to you too.
Subject: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: Mohamed Tayyib-Bah
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:14 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: tayyibbah@btinternet.com
Entered From: host86-151-65-62.range86-151.btcentralplus.com at 86.151.65.62
Message:
Can someone please send me Mathew's email address or phone number?
Mine is tayyibbah@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: coincidence
To: All
Date Posted: 14:38:48 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
mr. manso,
are your ears deaf? why pick on matthew, what has he done to you. what is your reason for the hate? can you hear the message of president koroma? pls get off this forum, we dont need people like you.
are you jealouus of him? Grow up pls.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: Manso Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:16:02 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Thank you for your response Matthew Kamara alias Coincidence. You've done nothing to me, but when a fool like you try to use the press for your selfish motives, I am compelled to respond.
I cannot run away from this forum because I hold a different view. This forum is a melting pot for divergent views.
I do not hate you because I am superior to you in terms of anything. I was with you in the military, and you were not a match for my professional proficiency. I cannot sit quitely when military officers write incoherent articles. It is a disgrace to all officers.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: coincidence
To: All
Date Posted: 16:25:22 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
Manso,
I am no matthew kamara, he doesnt even know me, but when people full of hate like you try to tarnish someone else's character, i do step in.
That is Pride of Life, you are superior to matthew, that means you are a witch. Careful now, so that when you are coming down you will not step on his toe. Remember he that is down fears no fall
As I said, grow up, we dont need people like you. You dont worry, matthew will reply when he finds time, he is such a busy family man. I admire him a lot.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: Manso Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:21:13 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Tayyib-Bah,
I don't think you want to associate yourself with that sycophant (Matthew Kamara), who cannot write a well-organized article. I know him very well; of course, I know the two of you. If he continues to write lop-sided articles, I will have no option but to respond appropriately. He is not a defense specialist. He was a medicocre military officer when he was in the military.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: coincidence
To: All
Date Posted: 16:28:15 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
Jackal, God bless you dear, this makes two of us. Manso has just double word. i dont want to use the appropriate vocab, because he will never understand.
He spoke about superior, the man is a witch.
cocorioko get people like manso off this forum or better still tell him to grow up.
I have told him Matthew will reply him accordingly.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 15:17:53 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
How do you know he is not a defense specialist? What qualifies you as a defense critic? If you can write better than Matthew how about assessing your last sentence..."He was a medicocre military officer when he was in the military."
For the purpose of correction, it is a redundant sentence. Dont call the kettle black dude.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: taybii
To: All
Date Posted: 13:36:01 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
i sent his #, say thanks pls.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: coincidence
To: All
Date Posted: 13:21:57 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: favor@hotmail.com
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
his # is 281 565 1123
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: Lawrence Billgreyhood.
To: All
Date Posted: 18:45:26 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: caintdef.sbc.com at 144.160.130.16
Message:
ORLANGBA (Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara,) IF YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, JUST DON’T POST ANY GARBAGE. YOUR ARTICLE GAVE ME “HEADACHE” I WAS CONFUSE WHEN I STARTED READING IT, AND GOT ENGULFED WITH THE NONSENSE. YOUR ADVICE IS A DISGRACE. I KNOW YOU WANT TO SHOW WHAT YOU CAN DO, BUT THIS BACKFIRES!!! I WAS FOLLOWING ANOTHER OFFICE (CAPTAIN KEN JOSIAH’S) ARTICLE AND I WAS PROUD OF THE MILITARY. AFTER READING YOURS, I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THE MILITARY (IS IT FEW INTELLIGENT GUYS?) TAKE IT EASY BROTHER. I KNOW YOU’RE GIFTED IN OTHER AREAS BUT NOT IN WRITING. NICE TRY!
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: coincidence
To: All
Date Posted: 16:30:05 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
This makes three of us now. Manso get off this forum. fool!
you will hear from matthew himself.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: Capt Yamao Khati
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:02 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip4da2899b.direct-adsl.nl at 77.162.137.155
Message:
Manso,
Maj Mathew Kamara was one on the finest officers we had in the RSLMF. You are tempted to refer to him as " mediocre " simply because he never held any major NPRC appointment, unlike his mates like Strasser, SAG, BIO et al. As colleagues, we knew why his mates mal-treated him, it had to do with malice, rather than qualification.
Subject: The Cocorioko forum is the best to me
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 11:49:24 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
I think the owners and the Moderator of this forum have been doing well and have failed to receive the praise due them. I have been visiting the SLPP and Awareness Forums as well,but one thing that fascinates me about this forum is the variety it provides.I may not be right but this is my opinion. The folks in the other two forums look tired and boring to me. Their names are insipid and the opinions straightjacket and boring. Here you meet more interesting characters like Subwanalai, Bambay Kamara, Candid Opinion, Patriot, Allieu Iscandari , Sylvester Johnny, Mbalu, Allieu Sesay, Chez Winnakabs, etc .who all provide variety .The topics dealt with by them are diverse and exciting. I will not give this forum for any other .I wish to thank the moderator for maintaining order and cleanliness on the forum. Just thought that you needed my 50cents on a forum that has become addictive to me, if you catch my drift.
Subject: Re: The ..Cease and Desist :)
From: Town Crier (the real one)
To: All
Date Posted: 15:43:42 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.208.251.22
Message:
Cease and desist...
This is an order from the ministry of handles at cocorioko. There is only one and only Town Crier on this forum. All others should desist from the use of that handle, and come up with their own handle.
Be warned..the pa don baranta
Subject: Re: The ..Cease and Desist :)
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:49 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.208.251.22
Message:
Cease and desist...
This is an order from the ministry of handles at cocorioko. There is only one and only Town Crier on this forum. All others should desist from the use of that handle, and come up with their own handle.
Be warned.
Subject: Re: Plans to Balckmail Cocorioko
From: Thomas Mahonney
To: All
Date Posted: 13:38:25 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: thomahonney@yahoo.com
Entered From: library-99.wireless.umass.edu at 128.119.194.99
Message:
I read with trepedition your claim that some news outlets may be planning to blackmail Cocorioko.
As a keen observer, this practice is not new in journalism in Sierra Leonean and perhaps in the murky world of politics. In fact, it has been and still is a common phenomenom in Sierra Leone; one reason well meaning Sierra Leoneans take news reports by some papers with a pinch of salt.
Notwithstanding this fact, you stated in your article that "we and progressive forces in Sierra Leone succeeded in defeating a whole incumbent government"; is this not a tacit admission that Cocorioko is partisan at best? Would such a stance not compromise your sense of fairness and independence in reporting events since your desire is to portray the APC in good light? Is it ethical for journalists to be partisan and how would this impact thier quest for truth?
While there is nothing wrong for journalists to have "vested interest" (whatever that means) in any party or for that matter government as you stated- "We have a special interest in this particular government"- it smacks off sycophancy and chauvinism. Taking such a posture has potential for failure to not see anything negative in a party or goverment of the day eventhough they may exist. This is certainly dangerous for our young democracy, and sadly, it has its roots in the odious days of the APC.
The fact is, Cocorioko needs to declare itself either as a party (APC) newsblog or draw a distinct line between blind political folly or as an independent voice of Sierra Leoneans in the diaspora.
Until then, your reporting will continue to be held suspect. Kudos for the blog!
Thomas Mahonney
Boston, USA
Subject: Re: Plans to Balckmail Cocorioko
From: Saloneman
To: All
Date Posted: 21:31:57 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-74-219-171.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 72.74.219.171
Message:
I was just as shocked when I read the "Plans to Blackmail Cocorioko" article. As soon as I read it, the first impression I got was that Mr. Kanu is beginning to sound a lot like Sylvia Blyden. You've created a wonderful entity here and we appreciate it. Do not turn it into a tabloid and worse, a tabloid about Babs kanu.
You know there is a lot of jealousy unfortunately in SL and as soon as you start making it, there are those that want to target you. Being that these attacks are a dime a dozen, please do not take it so serious that you start reporting everyday that Cocorioko is under attack. That's Sylvia's style. She lets you know that her newspaper is HER newspaper.
As I stated in my other post that mysteriously got deleted, your crowing about being responsible for the change in government is an insult to the Sierra Leoneans who went and did their civic duty. Most of your readers reside outside the country and did not vote, so lets temper the patting on the back.
You claim to be partisan, keep it so. Or if you want to be a mouth piece for the new govt, then state your intentions. Don't start ingratiating yourself to the new govt because that makes you no better than Sylvia Blyden who we all accuse of being a mouth piece for the SLPP.
When I read the blackmail article, I got a mental picture of you running around NJ telling every one who will listen that your powerful newspaper is responsible for bringing in the APC. You know like those loud mouthed of our citizens here and in the UK who like to run around at parties thinking they are big shots. Not a pretty picture as you can see, so stay true. You are a reverend, so try not to get corrupt. You are a journalist, maintain your journalistic integrity. Do not start sucking up the government now. Otherwise, congrats and thanks for the job you've done so far. Let's hope you continue on the right path.
Subject: Re: Plans to Balckmail Cocorioko
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:19 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-70-108-233-84.washdc.east.verizon.net at 70.108.233.84
Message:
Thomas Mahoney,
The problem with most Sierra leoneans is lack of appreciation and will always want and quest for praises where you are inclined. When Newspapers like Awareness Times and other SLPP's sponsored Newspaper where assasinating characters and reputation of APC members, where were you to have codemned or make a silly statement as you doing to the most liberal newspaper? These insidious attitudes of yours need to stop and try to be more patriotic and supportive of peoples possitive efforts.
Subject: Re: Plans to Balckmail Cocorioko
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 15:51:50 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Liberal Paper???????? Is this the same Cocorioko that we talking about???? Bo duya nor make ar choke.
Patriotism has nothing to with blind support of your government and its policies. A true patriot is proud of his country, not his govt.
Speaking of character assasination, the pages and archives of cocorioko are rife with the practice. The bottom line is you cannot claim to be non-partisan and then do everything that points out that you a die hard APC supporter....Cocorioko has essentially morphed into an APC newsletter. It has the readership because people want to know what the APC and its minions are saying, but that doesn't mean they take what is posted as gospel.
Subject: Re: Plans to Balckmail Cocorioko
From: poorman
To: All
Date Posted: 20:49:07 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: unis@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-72-66-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.26.251
Message:
cocorioko nar we yone. you mit yar don mek nor cam . you know the rest; you go kab kanu. a lek way you bit me nar fbc, are still dae colay pa you.
Subject: Re: The Cocorioko forum is the best to me
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 11:55:38 10/12/07 ()
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Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
True that..
The "Forum"..
Earlier opinion i expressed was about the Newspaper..
We all agree.. the forum is the best out there..
No doubt..
Subject: Re: The Cocorioko forum is the best to me
From: Online Veteran
To: All
Date Posted: 13:05:52 10/12/07 ()
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Entered From: ppp-70-244-79-31.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 70.244.79.31
Message:
THe only with Archives. Shows continuity.
Subject: Can the real John Mannah please stand up!
From: Dehunge
To: All
Date Posted: 11:03:32 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
John over the last couple of months i have followed your sparing with various people in cyberspace. I know you John as a charming and affable guy devoid of arrongance. Your great smile was always a welcoming and sincere sign of the great human being that i knew you to be. The John Mannah that i see on these forums is not truly the real guy that i know. I believe that you have allowed yourself to be dragged into being someone other than what you are. You spent a considerable part of your life in East end Freetown a bastion of detribalised themne guys. By all indications you got along well with with guys in Hagan street with little education. In Mount Aureol where i was two years your senior you showed yourself to be a great mixer. That was how you were able to display your leadership skills especially with AISEC. Not once did i see an iota of the tribal sentiments that seem to pervade your commentary on issues about Sierra Leone. I know that it is easy to want to stand up for your ideas. But you will agree with me that your style has drowned out what ever good ideas that you seek to propagate. In other words you have become the issue rather than the honest disagreements you share with people on the political and economic issuesof the day
My advice to you John as a good friend is to back off, take some time off and re-emerge as the real guy that you truly are. I remember Kabs writing an open letter to you when you stopped posting on Cocorioko in which he lauded your articles and invited you to continue submiting them to his newspaper. I may not have agreed with everything you wrote but the articles clearly met the intellectual stardards of a Forabite that one can be proud of. I like people with passion for their ideas, however John, Sierra Leone is a small country, you can practice your politics without alienating a lot of people as you certainly seem to be doing.
Therefore my brother take a deep breath and think about whether this John Mannah who is now coming across as elitist, boastful, arrongant and snubbish of people you consider less educated is the real John Mannah. I know that is not the real John Mannah at least not the one i knew.
Subject: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chapoyumu
To: All
Date Posted: 10:56:28 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: chapo@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
• The construction of Chancery buildings and residences in Ghana. The Ghanaian Government has allocated plots of land for this purpose. Project estimated at US$130,000 for 2008.
• The repairs and maintenance of Chancery buildings - the High Commission in Banjul, The Gambia. Project cost estimated at US$983,218.00 for 2008.
• The repairs of the Chancery building and Ambassador’s residence in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Cost estimated at US$773,339.00 for 2008.
• Development estimate for rehabilitation of buildings including the Chancery’s, Ambassador’s and Deputy Ambassador’s residences and Deputy Ambassador’s residences and other logistical needs for the Sierra Leone Embassy in Washington is estimated at US$497,930 for 2008
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 12:26:42 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-138-89-217.range86-138.btcentralplus.com at 86.138.89.217
Message:
I am in support of a modern mission house. Such residences projects who we are. My problem though is where is the mioney coming from? What are in place to attract meaningful and financially beneficial bilateral trade. As our current posotion stands, our overseas missions have not brought in trade for the bbenefit of the country. Most of the trade that is happening is personal trade that only employees of these mission houses benefit. An example is palm oil that was been sold at one time at our High Commision in London (Oxford Street premises). It was a shock to see that.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 13:08:29 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
Why spend $983,000 to repair a chancery in Banjul when you can build a brand new one for less! You've just made the point, if renovated embassies continue to be used as market places for fried fish and "cassada braid" then the return on investment is unjustifiable.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:17:36 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-192-18.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.192.18
Message:
True! True! This is then the time for our Foreign Minister to formualte policies and standards to attract trade for the benefit of the nation. Shakespear once said - costly thy habits upon clothes as thy purse can buy, rich nor gaundy for the apparel proclaims the man. if we are to spend such money on revamping our mission houses we have to do that with the hope in mind that they will surely serve as financially beneficial points.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 13:33:29 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
Costly thy habit as thy purse can buy, but not expressed in fancy, rich, not gaudy, for the apparell oft proclaims the man.
Sorry couldn't resist - this is a line from a speech I gave almost 25 years ago, but I still remember it verbatim.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:46:03 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-192-18.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.192.18
Message:
Thanks for the verbatim! I learnt this at the Albert Academy - will not tell you when - Omorpeh harding my tailoring teacher taught us about appearance and this quote he often used. Do you still remember which book it was taken from?
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 03:46:02 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Oh old time memories at AA.
Pa Harding taught us Permanent Turn-Up(PTU) and gave us the history behind it and upto this day, I still take my ready-made pants and modify them into PTU.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 06:32:46 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-205-203.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.205.203
Message:
Still remember who invented the PTU, the red tie and the man who could nopt seat in public for fear of crssing his trousers? Pa harding - a great teacher of fashion. To this day my tailoring is good - the visual side is impeccable. Thank God and tghe opportunity one got to have sat in a class of Pa Harding.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 15:14:41 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
It is from Hamlet.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:12 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-200-121.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.200.121
Message:
Thanks!
Subject: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: THAVARISH
To: All
Date Posted: 10:39:05 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-228-219-218.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.228.219.218
Message:
Check his interview and have your say on his perfomance.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 10:20:21 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
It was a tough outing for President Koroma. The host of the program is a notorious hard-hitter, and there were some unusual questions from listerens to contend with. Overall grade on performance(to answer your question): 6 out ot ten--
1. On delivery: much room for improvement, although to be fair, Koroma does not have the luxury of highly-paid voice, speech and image coaches (like Geore Bush and Gordon Brown do). At times, he sounded a little sluggish and overall lacked a certain "oomph". This , of course can be improved over time, but sooner than later as this shortcoming will only detract form any sense of gravitas.
2. On content: Koroma did fairly well, but would benefit from better preparation (again, he probably does not have seasoned policy experts and research archives at his disposal to prep him before appearances/press conferences (as do George and Gordon). One clearly deficient area, for example (judging from the interview) is foreign affairs. On most of the other topics, while there were no embarrassing gaffes or missteps, his tentativenes in some of his answers and reticence to take head-on some admittedly tough and leading questioning by the host gave me some concern.
3. On the intangibles: probably the strongest component for the President; Koroma came accross as amiable and was not rattled during a fairly heated interview (he was constantly interrupted mid-sentence by the host, who clearly knows how to go to the crux).
All in all, not bad. With the appropriate assistance that I mentioned, The President should get higher and higher scores in this department. Maybe he should put in a call to Gordon. Some of his folks may not be averse to a pro bono outing to Salone.
Please let us know when the Veep has his first major interview so that we can critique as well.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 15:52:23 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-184-49-40.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 71.184.49.40
Message:
He sounds somewhat Kenyan doesn't he?
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 16:12:16 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Pretty close. He's from Uganda, but does have that Kenyan "sound" to him.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 21:10:23 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
The tip is Swahili. They all speak Swahili and as we all know, the mother tongue do influence your phonetics in the English language.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:53:28 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Yes, good point.
Intersting thing though: Thre few times I visited Nairobi, I can count on my one hand the number of people I heard speaking any indegenous language. Man, they love to speak English (with that Swahili lilt), everywhere from the matatus (poda-podas) to nyama choma shops (cookery). Man, they really amaze me.
Subject: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 10:08:55 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: mohamedbarigue@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
On sale here are cheap electronic tickets to Freetown via Air France, by way of Conakry or SN Brussels by way of antwerp to freetown . from any U.S.city
Now available for only $1,300 one month return.
Please call Barigue travel and tours.
Tel: (240)724-6246 Email: mohamedbarigue@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:27 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-192-18.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.192.18
Message:
Are you a registered and regulated agent for scheduled or chartered flights? Do you have an operators licence to guarantee refunds if something goes wrong? What is the bond in this?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 13:17:58 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
Yes we are. yes we do. $50,000.00 same bond amount required for used car dealers, driving school operators, home improvement specialist.
you can always buy your own travel insurance if you want though and even that is optional.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 13:41:45 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
No one is pulling a prank on you. check the washington post travel section each sunday read the travel section especially the coming and going section and you will gain some enlightenment into the travel industry. By the way , the website is a philosophiiical statement and if you can tell me what it means before scrolling down to the index to see the explanation you win a round trip ticket to Freetown.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:24:27 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-192-18.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.192.18
Message:
Thank you sir! Such established information will attract more customers.
I am having trouble entering the website: www.cogo.com
Will continue trying. thanks again.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 13:33:20 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
The website works alright, but the information is not related to travel insurance....
I hope this GUY i not here playing a PRANK on FOLKS.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:19 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Mohamed:
How do you get from Conakry to Freetown? I have traveled on Air France via Dakar. There appear be more options from Dakar to Freetown. What is the comparative cost of flying through Dakar instead of Conakry?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 12:32:20 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
FROM THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT GOING TO FREETOWN BUT TO SOMEWHEE IN THE NORTH SAY KAMBIA OR PORT LOKO, CONAKRY IS BETTER AND CHEAPER, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO BY ROAD TO FREETOWN OR TAKE A PLANE FOR ONLY $100.00 MORE
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 12:36:00 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
So it is $1300 to Guinea and Not Sierra Leone- Freetown?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 12:46:51 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
IT is $1300 to freetown we pay the $100 ticket for you on paramount airlines or charter you a jeep for same amount to freetown if you want to go by road to Freetown, kambia , port loko, masiaka, moyamba, bo and Kenema
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:20:28 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Mr. Barigue:
Paramount Airlines was once listed by the main international aviation safety association as a dangerously unsafe airline, one of Africa's worst. It was also grounded by the Sierra Leone authorities as unsafe.
Is this airline now pronounced as certfiably safe?
For your information, I was attracted to yoyr posting because I am a frequent flyer to Freetown and I am always looking for inexpensive plane tickets. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:33:11 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-192-18.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.192.18
Message:
That's JL the refined diplomat!! How are you my boss? We do not seem to cross each others' paths these days? What is happening these days?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Waraba
To: All
Date Posted: 22:00:28 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: saigobe@lanset.com
Entered From: pool-71-179-99-138.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net at 71.179.99.138
Message:
Ohpoto Chez,
Mr. Leigh is not idle lekkeh you. Mr. Leigh is very busy making material contribution to the improvement of the living conditions of the peipul dem. Therefore there is no way your paths will meet/intersect.
Waraba
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 23:45:23 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-207-163.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.207.163
Message:
Misplacing my intentions again. He is on the forum and I was in the same footing on the 'CHEAP FLIGHT' issue. So I am idle just because? Waraba, I threw my corn and I did not call your foul type (oops fowl. I had a reason for extending such diplomatic discourse to JL. You will not understand what is in a man's mind. Profound wisdom is the only skilled helper. JL knows why we cannot "meet/intersect". Let peace reign!!
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: krio
To: All
Date Posted: 12:56:41 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Is this a STAND-BY ticket from US to Freetown on AIR FRANCE?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 12:46:35 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
IT is $1300 to freetown we pay the $100 ticket for you on paramount airlines or charter you a jeep for same amount to freetown if you want to go by road to Freetown, ambia , port loko, masiaka, moyamba, bo and Kenema
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:49:16 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Post your fine prints..
Disclosures..
I want to know what the catch is..
I believe in not getting anything for free.. and i am not interested in things that are too good to be true..
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 12:56:25 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
There is no catch my friend , it is up front price less the trimmings others charge. For example some will say they only sell you British airways for $2,300, plus you have to apply for a visa electronically. Even if you want to go with air morroco which is an air france partner it is the same price $1300. Air morroco now flies to freetown. Make life easy on you and your wallet. Even some may want to sell you aestreus airline from london for so much it is up to you,plus so much more on a US carrier to london for at leats we have done our research and so should you.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 13:50:38 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Are these prices for December? Because I just purchase ticket with another Sierra Leonean for $1800 traveling with air Moroco. But this is for December though? Can you please be more specific on the months and dates.
Thanks
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN THIS IS FOR REAL
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 14:33:03 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
I was encouraged by a friend to send a posting to Cocorioko telling the most enlightened Sierra Leonean forum about our unique travel program. Yes Air Morrocco to Freetown is selling for $1,800-$2,000 but it sells for $1,000-$1,300 to Conakry even in December because of the high taxes imposed by our development retarded NRA, that sees any investor as a target for rip off.
The same with SN Brussells charging thousands of dollars for their ticket to Freetown and maybe a thousand less to Conakry same thing because of high government taxes. So we have devised a system that guarantees that you get to freetown without breaking the bank or overcharging your credit card and that is 100% legal and very affordable.
You will like our way of doing this. It is so easy, take the plane to the next city , conakry, then take another plane to freetown or enjoy the country-side by going by road . You avoid high governmenet taxes and high airport taxes as well as a drifting ferry across the Atlantic or an old russian helicopter that may rotate endlessly before crashing. And by the way, Your Honorable Mr. Ambassador Leigh, Paramount is safe to fly, even there is SLOK air to Freetown, don't mind what People are saying Africans are using these flights everyday with no problems and of course life is not guaranteed and tommorro is not promised.
But one thing we can promise you is this, we can fly you to Conakry, help process you through customs and immigration, then we can drive you off to Freetown in a late model air conditioned jeep (we can't wait for the transafrica highway to be completed.) or you can take paramount airlines to freetown all at our expenses.
To many of you Sierra Leoneans who used our services last year, please come to our rescue. Our drivers were driving white Jeeps that got you to freetown in under 6 hours. Some of you even chartered our vehicles for your wedding programs. I don't want to name names but I guess if someone ask for references, I can use your names as references right?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 13:38:33 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: mfofana2004@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
You said that take off can be from any US city. I live in Los Angeles. If this plane can take me from Los Angeles to Freetown for $1,300, then it is good. Can you confirm for sure that this flight(s) do take off from LAX. If so what is the schedule?
Thanks.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:32 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
So there are no conditions...?
Or you just danced around my question..?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 11:14:20 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.242.28
Message:
That's about £650 which is not cheap. There are flight s from London to Freetown for £500.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: AMERICAN
To: All
Date Posted: 12:29:50 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
BUT WHAT I CAN BUY WITH $1000 DOLLARS IN AMERICA ,I CANNOT BUY WITH 1000 POUNDS IN ENGLAND. YOU ALL PAY 1000 POUNDS FOR AN APARTMENT IN LONDON BUT FOR $2000 I WILL BE IN A HOUSE IN WASHINGTON. CURRENCY EXCHANGE AND PURCHASING POWE ARE TWO THINGS. YOU GUYS MAKE LESS MONEY AND SPEND MORE IN ENGLAND. KEEP YOUR HARD EARNED POUNDS TO YOURSELF AND LEAVE ME WITH MY EASILY SPENT DOLLAR
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:11:42 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-192-18.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.192.18
Message:
You forgot about quality and safety also in the UK! It is an expensive island to live in but it is all worth it. He who survives in the UK for a year has luxury in the US.
Subject: BUT YOUR HOUSES ARE TOO SMALL TO LIVE IN CHEZ
From: okdok
To: All
Date Posted: 20:10:44 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
Entered From: wnpgmb11dc1-161-174-190.dynamic.mts.net at 142.161.174.190
Message:
Do you take this buddy?
Subject: Re: BUT YOUR HOUSES ARE TOO SMALL TO LIVE IN CHEZ
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 23:48:54 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Yes very small if you live in urban areas. Those in the rural have large Victorian types. The Island is not as big as the US and therfore has to meet the demand for space. They are well protected and safety is a paramount issue for the local authorities.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Nar Sabi Talk
To: All
Date Posted: 10:47:59 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thanks for the info... Cuz people are always looking for better deals to Freetown...
Is this just a one time deal or an ongoing one?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:33 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: Cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-202-227.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.202.227
Message:
Thanks for the information my freind, but this forum is not for
advertisement.
Peace and Love
Subject: CHANGE OF NAME
From: SUBWANALAI
To: All
Date Posted: 09:54:45 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
BECAUSE I HAVE GOT A DISTORTED SIAMESE TWIN, I SUBWANALAI HEREBY TAKE THIS OATH INFRONT OF AN ACCREDITED JP THAT FROM THIS DAY HENCEFORTH, I WISH TO BE KNOWN AND CALLED BY THE NAME: NAYABINGHI(JAH'S CHILD). ALL "CERTIFIED" DOCUMENTS BEARING MY FORMER NAME REMAIN VALID.
Subject: Re: CHANGE OF NAME
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 12:32:01 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Nayabinghi- what language is that?
Subject: Re: CHANGE OF NAME
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 13:01:07 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Mammy Blessings it is the Jamba Language( JOE HILL/RASTA).... This person sounds more like the Lawyer...
Subject: QUOTE OF THE YEAR
From: CraseMan-nah
To: All
Date Posted: 09:04:44 10/12/07 ()
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Welcome to the S.L.P.P. Forum
QUOTE OF THE YEAR
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Posted by DC Cab Driver on October 12, 2007 at 08:51:56:
"The answer, of course, is that you [John Mannah] are mentally disturbed. Not willing to face the reality of your unsatisfactory life, and running out of time to change your pauperous circumstances, at age 50, when most serious people have already reached the zenith of their professions, you started out to study economics through a correspondence course at a third rate college, while continuing to drive a taxi-cab on the streets of Washington D.C. It is your misfortune that, instead of recognizing that you had spent too long driving a taxi-cab to have any chance of reversing your failed life, you saw your correspondence course as an immoral ticket to joining your fellow SLPP looters of the Sierra Leone treasury in a Berewa-led SLPP government. But, as with most things in your life, John Mannah, you failed again.
A sober person would have taken his failure as a signal to avoid immoral quests. But not you, John Mannah. Instead, you regard your latest failure in life as an affront from God, especially when you look, with unnecessary bitterness at the success of other Sierra Leoneans like President Ernest Koroma, Vice President Sam Sumana, and now, Mohamed Jalloh."
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Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE YEAR
From: Batman
To: All
Date Posted: 09:34:46 10/12/07 ()
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vERY tRUE.
I remember Krase John Mannah abusing VP Sumana in the very first week after the victorious APC election. Nar man wae nor know say nar him bad hart make ee go alaki tae lakira.
Subject: Did SLPP use Bank Of Sa. Leone funds to finance campaign?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 09:00:42 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac0ea75.bb.sky.com at 90.192.234.117
Message:
Is it true that the outgoing SLPP government used Central bank money to the tune of 9 Billion Leones to fund their campaign?? If so just when are they going to repay the money (with interest)??
Can someone please shed some light on this if it is indeed true??
Subject: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: Patriot
To: All
Date Posted: 08:55:01 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I have been a regular reader of the Cocorioko Newspaper online and I agree with those who say that it is the best newspaper we have.I say this with no prejudice to the other newspapers.Kabs just has that uniques style of newswriting that others cannot match. What is a dull and boring item on other papers becomes very interesting on Cocorioko.
However, the paper has fallen in standards lately because of its allignment with the APC. It was not a bad idea to help the APC win the elections. I also dislike SLPP and I have respect for Cocorioko for helping to defeat them at the elections.
However, I think it is high time for Cocorioko to retrn back to the centre. They did a good job to defeat SLPP but now they have to return to the center and to the reporting of other stories and providing strong analyses of the country's problems.
We also wish to warn Cocorioko to beware of these politicians .They are not worth losing your credibility over.
I hope Kabs and Foday Mansaray will not ban me for expressing my opinion on this issue . I am saying this not to be a 'beller' to the paper like its detractors but because I am one of those who have been enjoying the paper for its interesting style of news coverage and writing which other papers cannot match. It is not worth losing credibility over our politicians.
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 10:43:12 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
Message:
Rev Kanu and I have always been very realistic. The unfortunate truth was SLPP did a terrible Public Relations Job. Clues……SLPP were always coming from a defensive position.
Elections are over and we are concentrating on nation building efforts. The Views of our forum participants are not the opinion of COCORIOKO or any of its board members.
As Sierra Leone's number one news outlet on the web, we take such constructive criticism very seriously. We will ask our moderator to post another poll which you the reader will be the independent judge as to our performance within the next ninety days. All political parties and stakeholders are welcome to submit articles and suggestions.
Thank You.
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:07:25 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Foday:
I agree with Patriot. As I understand his/her posting, he/she is not concerned with the views expressed by participants in the forum. Those views (provided they are not offensive or violate the rules of the forum) cannot and should not be sanitized, censored or otherwise curtailed. This is why I was troubled by your earlier suggestion that "false" postings would subject participants to punitive measures including banning from the forum.
What I believe Patriot is referring to (and I agree with him/her) is the editorial content of Cocorioko. No-one is saying that the paper cannot have a slant or bias-- most papers do. However, what has been lacking and blatantly so at Cocorioko since the end of the elections in Sierra Leone is even an iota of objectivity in both the reporting of news and the editorials.
I don't believe you need a poll to become objective. That is something you either decide to do or not to do. The ball is already in your court.
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:29:32 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"However, what has been lacking and blatantly so at Cocorioko since the end of the elections in Sierra Leone is even an iota of objectivity in both the reporting of news and the editorials." -----ITK
Not only that... even the content..
Natin pass HE, MR Preso, Uncle Sam..
Preso.. Uncle sam.. APC..
Cabinet..
Ok..
But what abotu this..?
http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_20056722.shtml
http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_20056732.shtml
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1206&cntnt01returnid=15
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1201&cntnt01returnid=15
There is more to salone than our new Messiah..
Get that lazy reporter out of statehouse and have him mingle a bit with the people..
Opinions, market women expectations, interview with the mayor.. hard questions.. about our city..
Army chief.. police chief..
Paddys.. kolonko price.. (man get for budget).
etc.....etc..
And once in a while.. Hit Pap Sam something something behend the bahckor...so he realises.. he is an employee.. VP glamour went out with SI koroma.. E geh luck e get siren sef for 250K..price used to be 700K
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 11:20:23 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Just bypass the newspaper and come to the forum..
Better yet.. bookmark the forum directly..
No one should force us to read soviet style news.. all things mr president.. lek we nar termite.. (its not all about the queen).
And no.. cocorioko is not the best news outlet online..
Awoko is..
awarenesstimes.
Vanguard
etc.. before cocorioko..
I am even leaning more towards newpeople these days..
Only if they update 3-5 times a week..
Better format.. eye candy..
anyways.. as we all have and are allowed to express opinions..
Thats mine..
Shape up Cabs.. (noto gym ah de talk bot)
Move away from this hwforums and who ever your host is..
Buy HTML for dummies and get a grasp on the basics..
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: Citizen
To: All
Date Posted: 11:35:39 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
I don't agree with you, Patriot, that Cocorioko should abandon its projection of President Koroma's government and move to the centre.The paper, in my opinion, has always been centrist. Why not be honest and say that you want Cocorioko to appease the SLPP by stopping to promote the APC ? That is what this whole thing is about . It's not about journalism.It's about SLPP.If Cocorioko had been promoting SLPP, what would you have said ? PRAISE TO COCORIOKO . And candid opinion was so disingenious .His preference for the New People shows my point. He believes New People is the best for the reason that it is promoting SLPP.So it is clear that this is about APC and SLPP.Cocorioko is being villified by SLPPers.Plain and simple. The paper is great to me.I see nothing wrong with it. I agree with Patriot that it is the best and Kabs should stop being confused by the noise of the SLPP market.
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:45:58 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Citizen,
We differ, i respect that..
And no.. i dont want him to be PRO anyone..
That was my point..
Newpeople is better formated and a better read..
We can solicit secondary opinion on that (No need to argue).
I read, cocorioko.. Newpeople.. awareness times, awoko, vanguard et all.. and apply my own filter and comeup with my own virtual news of the day.. thats how i keep myself informed abotu back home...
"He believes New People is the best for the reason that it is promoting SLPP" ----citizen
And you called me disingenious?
While virtually shoving words down my throat..?
Subject: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: Hon.Philip Tondoneh-SLPP.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:27:07 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
A Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP) parliamentarian Mr Philip Tondoneh has expressed concern over the linking of the Ministry of Finance with that of Development under the recently announced appointment of cabinet ministers by President Ernest Koroma.
Mr Tondoneh said that though it is a little bit premature to make an assertive statement, because there is a parliamentary appointments Committee, the combination of the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Development is a serious concern because these are two major Ministries and need a line of difference between the professionals.
“I would have loved those two Ministries to be separated so that there will be transparency and performance assessment as well as efficiency” he said.
Tondoneh took a jab also on the appointment of the Foreign Minister, saying “personally I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent to handle that post, somebody who is a Foreign Affairs person must know the issues, but let’s see what the Appointments Committee will come out with.”
The SLPP Member of Parliament also said that they will have to thoroughly scrutinize the appointees as to whether they have dual citizenship “we have to check also whether they are registered voters, these are our concerns we want to know their status.” he maintained
He however said that “I like and want the cabinet to be purely partisan, as of now, I do not see anything wrong with it”
The MP said that the idea of national inclusion is a donor driven ideology, “pointing out that that ideology affected his party (SLPP) as a lot of people who have joined the party were not loyal to the government and ended up sabotaging it.”
Subject: Re: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 10:33:31 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
This is why we have a parliament. Every appointment should be scrutinized and the nominee grilled on how they intend to carry-out their functions. If they are the right person for the job, they should be able to neutralize any doubts coming from parliamentarians. What I like about confirmation hearings is that it allows the people (through elected representatives) to pose questions to the president's appointees. It also creates a record for us to compare what they say they will do with what they actually do in the next four years. Great process.
Subject: Re: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 10:13:16 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: cottontree1800@gmail.com
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Message:
I totally agree with you and the honorable that all appointees should be
scrutinized to see whether they have the qualifications/know-how and
competent to perform their job functions. However, I don’t think not
having a dual citizenship or not being a registered voter should be a
roadblock for an appointment.
There are many Sierra Leoneans abroad that are highly qualified with
vast experiences that are willing/ready to relinquish their jobs to back
and help with the rebuilding process. We need to come together as a
nation to rebuild Sierra Leone. As longer as you’re Sierra Leonean by
birth you should be given the opportunity.
Many bloggers have indicated that the constitution state, “if you’re not
a registered voter you should not be appointed or not hold a
ministerial post.” I am not a lawyer neither a constitution expert.
HOW IS THIS LAW/PROVISION BENEFICAIL? WHEN LAST WAS THE
CONSTITUTION REVISED?
Please excuse my ignorance and enlight me.
Peace and Love
Subject: Re: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: Nar Sabi Talk
To: All
Date Posted: 09:35:06 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bra! Nar U sabi...
We don put de wan deh way unar feel say sabi, nahtin nor happen...
We wan see A woman, en nor to any kind woman oh!
Nar Madam Zainab Bangura...
U en you Parliamentarian jus get for go lick each other's wound...
Lef Salone gee we ya!
Hush oh,ya!
Subject: Re: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: SUBWANALAI
To: All
Date Posted: 09:47:01 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Philip Tondoneh is a first timer in parliament. And so what? This is what the change is all about, giving first timers a chance. So, in the same vain, he is the wrong person to cry Zainab Bangura for being a first timer. Could Tondoneh please step back and give the patriotic lady a chance. Or maybe his most recent job (world bank attachment to the former Veep's office)is still doing his brain in. So far so good, of all the appointees, Zainab is the nominee I would rubber stamp any time of the day
Subject: Re: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 11:15:19 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
I do not see any difficulties for Zainab to excel as foreign minister. I do not know her but I have some knowledge of some of her accomplishment. I attended a conference in London in 1998 as then secretary general of SLPP where Zainab gave a moving speech on the war and the attrocities committed by the AFRC/RUF junta regime. She was part of former president Kabba's entourage to solicit international support for the restoration of democracy in Sierra Leone. Zainab has also established herself in the civil society movement during which she gained requisite international experience and was employed as a UN administrator in Liberia. In contrast, what did momodu koroma did or achieved prior to his appointment as F M by Kabba. Nothing, apart from being Kabba's bag carrier and errand boy. Do not tell me he has a degree because Zainab has that as well. Zainab is more equiped and with the potential to perform well. Live her alone, she is my sweety. Lotta
Subject: WHAT? THIS FORUM IS CHANGING COURSE? OH KNOW! WHY?
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 07:59:13 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-202-227.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.202.227
Message:
We need to redirect this forum to focus on suggestions that will gear
toward to the development/betterment of Sierra Leone. The fact is APC
is in power and the president has elected/appointed his cabinets. We
may disagree or dislike some of his appointees for some reason; some
may even have dirt in their closets, but we need to support them until
they proof otherwise. We need to use our energy, ideologies, and
experiences in a positive way to support Ernest Koroma government in
the rebuilding process. However, if they falter or engaged in any
corrupt behavior or injustice, they should be exposed and be held
accountable.
This forum comprises of many intellects from various disciplines with
vast experiences. I suggest we start tackling the problems of Sierra
Leone by giving suggestions to the president/officials on how to fix/
resolve the many issues the country is facing. The biggest problem that
everyone is talking about is corruption? I would start by asking a
question…
HOW CAN CORRUPTION BE COMBATED WHEN THE AVERAGE MONTHLY
SALARY OF A SIERRA LEONEAN IS APPROXIAMTELY SIXTY US DOLLARS
WITH EMPLOYMENT AT APPROXIMATELY SIXTY FIVE PERCENT?
Your honest views and opinions are welcome – I will assure you that
they will be channeled to the appropriate individual/ministry.
My fellow patriotic Sierra Leoneans lets help rebuild our beloved
country, work together in the name of unity peace and justice for all.
The people of Sierra Leone are suffering, lacking the basis necessities
to sustain life – it is heart rendering.
I have no political affiliations with any party. I am a proponent of
justice and better living conditions for all Sierra Leoneans regardless of
their tribe or economic status.
Subject: Re: WHAT? THIS FORUM IS CHANGING COURSE? OH KNOW! WHY?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 12:50:36 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.22
Message:
Very impressive brother. I wish the momentum and good faith be transmitted to those in power. The momentum might be the key, but we are also watching critically. I tend to like the shrewdness of President Koroma. He's creating the image of someone with the curiosity to fix, visiting places of hopeful attraction, and yet talk very little. We are watching and waiting, just to be sure! Saloneman's love for his country can't be underestimated. When the time is ripe, there will be a pool of fruitful ideas to pick from.
Subject: Re: WHAT? THIS FORUM IS CHANGING COURSE? OH KNOW! WHY?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 10:12:01 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I don't beleive that there is any shortage of ideas that can create a meaningful turnaround in Sierra Leone. The priorities set out by the president on his campaign website and in his address to parliament are clear and can be used to construct action plans for each ministry. The issue with Sierra Leone has always been whether the leadership has the political will to follow through on the chnages that are necessary to spur development and discourage corruption. One thing I do know is that Sierra Leoneans will follow an inspiring leader. This was demonstrated in 1985 when Joseph Momoh initially set a tone by arriving at work at 8.00 am. Virtually the whole civil service followed suit. Of course that lasted for less than a month, but it demonstrates the power of leadership by example. We don't need grand masterplans, we just need great leadership and committment to positive change. Oh and we also need time and patience to get things working again.
Subject: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 05:19:34 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
So far so good save for a few typo errors. It enlightened me so much that I will recommend others to read the draft now and prepare for possible debates.
Another thing i noted in the 'Current Status' of the departments touched is the vacant posts that others - so qualified on the forum - may want to look into. There are job and there will be more jobs for qualified people. No stealing my dear - be prepared to serve your nation and not to go and rob them - GROUP FOR JUSTICE WILL BE WAITING and nother group will soon spring - OPERATION CLEAN HANDS. Such a body will help civil servant and other government officials, by way of education through seminars, workshops, training, policies and campaigns. They will be listened to and helped with their problems of not controlling their hands - OPERATION CLEAN HANDS - will cure any illness of kleptomania; it will recomment to the state and its agencies: i) better condirtions for workers ii) better standard of living iii) health and safety at work iv)Welfare security issues, etc etc.
Guys my OPERATION CLEAN HANDS is imaginary. I prray such a body is there to help our myopic kleptomanaics. A thing you do today will be known tomorrow therefore our actions and decisions of today are very important for our future comings and goings.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 18:00:11 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
There were a couple items of concern.
The first was regarding the Ministry of Education around page 110. The report states there are 1.3 Million primary schools. That seems like a high number; especially since there are a reportedly low number of children enrolled in school. What percentage of these schools are actually functioning (properly staffed and equipped)? How many primary age students are in Sierra Leone?
Dept. of Agriculture-Tractors were just given away?
Forrest expenditures were attached to this department even though Forestry is no longer attached to this department.
Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation-I disagree with opening new missions in other countries when the department and missions already open need major overhauls. The ministry needs to be in good working order before any other undertakings. The modernization is key. The department needs modern office equipment, modern modes of communications, and modern transportation for visiting dignitaries.
I had a chance to travel to Pakistan late last year. When you arrive in Islamabad, you don't even know you're in a third world country. The capital of Pakistan is modern and well kept. If you can't make a good presentation of your country in your capital city, you are doomed. If the center of government doesn't have what it needs to function properly, you've got major problems.
Last observation. I have read repeatedly on this forum about the number of trained professions in the country, but I remember reading time and again that there is a need to staff different departments within the government with competent staff. Is this report saying that competent staff was overlooked in favor of placing incompetent people into positions as paybacks or for other reasons not mentioned?
Overall this was a good report. It was disappointing to see that not all that was requested was delivered or it was not delivered in a timely manner.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 09:58:58 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I read through the whole document. I am certainly more enlightened about how the public sector works! A lot of work has gone into it, but it is a massive document for one person to absorb. I assume that it will be broken down by Ministry and handed to each incoming minister to draw up a plan of action. My observation (which is sure to draw a lot of fire) is that I find it hard to see where the alleged "millions" could have been looted from such relatively modest ministerial budgets!
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: So the evidence is not forthcoming?
To: All
Date Posted: 11:02:18 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"...My observation (which is sure to draw a lot of fire) is that I find it hard to see where the alleged "millions" could have been looted from such relatively modest ministerial budgets! ..."
Please tell that to the LIARS in your party (apc) who defamed the GOP (SLPP) in their propaganda to usurp power through lies to the voters, intimidation, thuggery and violence.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 11:08:21 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
I have wondered the same..
IT may seem SLPP got upstaged..3 footed by petty gossip..
And the number one gossiper and disseminator of cheap talk just happended to be ..?
Who else..
But enti you all know.. call name..nar im get palava..
Who the red cowboy hat fit.. ?
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:13 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Hay thanks. The report is hugh but some of the pages are actually blank. I printed 208 Pages. With a good format can be reduce to may be 180 at best.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Emmanuel Jarrett
To: All
Date Posted: 09:08:48 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: na6mk2fw01.fidelity.com at 192.223.243.5
Message:
To add to the format issue, I hope the final copy is formatted well. It will be a shame for such report to go out ....it is even a shame on who prepared this document....It should be done professionally...
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 09:12:44 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-134-99-113.range86-134.btcentralplus.com at 86.134.99.113
Message:
Do we know what a draft is? It was not meant for our consumption until the finished product but some sensible guy was able to make us know about it before completion. We should be grateful and construcftively make recommendations - not calling a draft 'shame'.
In constructive criticisms we can progresws. I understood every bit of then document, even with the typo errors. They have started a very good job. I put my country above partisan politics.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Emmanuel Jarrett
To: All
Date Posted: 09:44:28 10/12/07 ()
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"Do we know what a draft is?" I do know what a draft is...if it is out in the public away from who should be reviewing and making recommendation, it is almost the final copy...
"They have started a very good job. I put my country above partisan politics." You are always coming with this partisan politics crap, I do not belong to any political party and therefore when i do a constructive criticism...
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: law
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Date Posted: 19:16:41 10/12/07 ()
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Thanks to whoever made this draft a public document that we all have seen a glimpse of. I stand to share the view of few people for a clear explanation of the ZILLIONS of $$$$$$'s that were alledged stolen from government ministries to fund SLPP's campaign. Please APC substantiate your evidence for corruption and we will join in to press charges otherwise get up from your slumber and put your brain to work because the clock is ticking. Thank you.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 10:42:00 10/12/07 ()
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Mr. Jarret, I make it my duty not to labour on issues that we all argue for arguments sake - the leaked draft is not a final work but a draft copy. Thanks and I hope we are all in the understanding that it was aleaked draft that we are opportuned to see.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 09:24:56 10/12/07 ()
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Chez! I went through the Draft and there are a lot of recommendations. The one that caught my eye is the division of the Ministry of Agriculture...
If we are trying to save valuable resources/capital, why is the transition team requesting a new department/probably a ministry?
Subject: COCORIOKO, HERE I COME
From: SUBWANALAI
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Date Posted: 04:56:32 10/12/07 ()
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My appologies to all the decent guys of this forum. I have been away for too long. Guess what, during my trek, I could not but clutch to any thing COCORIOKO. Meanwhile, I was made to understand that some well know nuisance that fits the female gender has been riding on my wings(moniker). But I trust the resoluteness of the ever vigilantes of this forum. Let us all unite to wipe out crudity and disrespect for our values. Wa Salaam!
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO, HERE I COME
From: Mensa
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Date Posted: 08:13:13 10/12/07 ()
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Mensa Messiah would like to take this wonderful opportunity to welcome a dear sister back to the forum after a notable absence. One thing I've always enjoyed about her is her advocacy for Sierra Leone to remain as One Nation. Hate her or love her, the power she exhudes sort of intimadates, quite subconsiously, the surrounding. People that happen to be in the vicinity scream blue murder and she finds herself repelling a barrage of attacks from all angles! Yet, she has proven to be a lone striker and a surviver. She's an enigma so to speak! But when you come to know her well as a person, she's downright mindful of the existence of a living God. She has faith. Perhaps SUBWANALAI might not be the right log-in name to use in a cyber screen that nakedly displays religious violations. She might not be aware, but changing the 'W' to an 'H' in the name could give you one of the Greatest praises for the Almighty in Islam. The good angel in her will definitely help her realize this fact.
Hey, no doubt we stand to enjoy just a bit of temporary fun by engaging in these endless cyber debates. Literally speaking, outlets of idleness they are, these cyber debates! No hard feelings! But whatever we do in sincerity for the sake of God, we definitely reap that reward regardless of our way of life. We should always be hopeful that someday, we shall end up in the path of righteousness.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO, HERE I COME
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 09:11:10 10/12/07 ()
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If Subwanalah is who you think he/she is, I have no respect for the character because she is a wicked woman who has no love for our country but what she can reap illegally . You do not know her, my dear.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO, HERE I COME
From: Mr President
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Date Posted: 05:24:23 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: Cottontree1800@gmail.com
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Welcome my freind, you were truely missed...
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO, HERE I COME
From: Mr President
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Date Posted: 05:23:48 10/12/07 ()
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Welcome my freind, you're truely missed...
Subject: TOEGONDON SAGBAH'S ARTICLE
From: X
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Date Posted: 04:32:03 10/12/07 ()
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INVESTIGATING CORRUPTION IS NOT A WITCH HUNT
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Posted by Toegondoe Sagbah on October 09, 2007 at 20:27:45:
I am not one of those to start making judgements about the new government, its too early. There is still almost 5 years to go. But I will say one thing to this government. The pervasiveness of corruption in the past government was not just endemic, it was epidemic and the whole country knows about it.
If for whatever reason, this government fails to prosecute the corruption for which the SLPP government was notoriously rooted out of power, it will definitely be one of the reasons, they too may have a problem winning in 2012 because the people will NOT FORGET.
We already know that many of the prominently corrupt SLPP are making daily visits to the State House facilitated by the State House scheduler, a core SLPP. And some of their mouthpieces are already trying to dampen the effects of their corruption on the nation by referring to any investigations as a "WITCH HUNT". That's a fanciful word for "DON"T PROSECUTE". Any semblance of not prosecuting will be considered a recipe for continued corruption.
Forget about those calling any corruption investigation as a WITCH HUNT. IT IS NOT...PERIOD!!! Investigating corruption is a dignified way of upholding our laws and holding those who violated it to be accountable for their deeds.
The millions of dolars, Pounds and Euros that have been pocketed and aggrandizd one way or another must be salvaged for the sake of the country. We are not going to be lucky again to have those monies replaced by the donor countries, that's why we must recoup these ones. Crooked and corrupt politicians must not be allowed to make corruption an acceptable behavior, agenda or tolerable public policy in that country. All it does is prevent the country from progress because the money lost, is simply progress and development lost
If the corrupt embezzlers of the past government were allowed to go free, on what gorunds will you prosecute the next corrupt officials, and the next, and the next and the next, and so on...FOREVER!
Subject: Re: TOEGONDON SAGBAH'S ARTICLE
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 12:05:01 10/12/07 ()
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Yes, thank you. I do believe in what I wrote. I hope many other do. Corruption must be tackled, dealt with and defeated. Otherwise it will forever remain our own physical cancer.
Subject: SORIE FOFANA HAS SPOKEN
From: Jan
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Date Posted: 04:22:11 10/12/07 ()
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Sierra Leone: Sorie Fofana Writes to Sheka Tarawallie
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OPEN LETTER TO MR. SHEKA TARAWALLIE
Dear Mr. Tarawallie,
When I arrived here in London, to take up appointment as Information Attaché on 22nd September 2002, I made it a policy not to engage in any slanging match with some media colleagues I consider to be mere detractors.
On this premise, I have deliberately ignored the temptation of having to respond to some of your bile-filled and scurrilous attacks against me published in some newspapers and/or Online publications.
I have decided to respond to your latest article published on the Cocorioko Website on 9th September, 2007 because you deliberately mentioned the name of the Sierra Leone High Commission in London.
It is my duty to respond, in order to inform the public, and, to address the issues you raised against the Sierra Leone High Commission. I know where you are coming from.
You said the High Commission does not even know the number of Sierra Leoneans living in Great Britain. I tell you why? It is because of people like you who come to the UK and refuse to register with the Sierra Leone High Commission inspite of a public notice on our website to that effect.
I hope you are not trying to suggest that we embark on a head count of every Sierra Leonean resident in the UK. Do you expect us to be moving from door to door looking out for Sierra Leoneans to come to the High Commission and register with us? That is just not possible, my dear brother.
On the issue of the slained Zainab Kaloko (May her soul rest in peace), you said we made no attempt to contact the British Police after she was gunned down at a birthday party in London. I don’t wish to blame you because you are completely ignorant about the procedures involved in complaints made by foreign missions.
For the benefit of your readers, let me say that the Deputy High Commissioner, Mr. James Allie and myself visited the bereaved family of the late Zainab Kaloko around Denmark Hill in South-East London, a day after her death, and sympathised with them in the Sierra Leonean way (I hope you understand what I mean by the “Sierra Leonean way”). We assured them of our support and asked them to contact the High Commission whenever the need arose.
On the issue of not making contact with the British Police on the death of the late woman (Zainab Kaloko), you better contact the Desk Officer in charge of Sierra Leone at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office here in London. I need not elaborate.
On the question of the Sierra Leone High Commission Website, we are still in the process of re-designing it to meet new challenges. I wish to encourage our many readers and viewers to continue to be patient with us as we continue to vigorously pursue the process of modernising the entire Chancery, again, to meet new challenges.
Let me advise you, once again, that in your undiminished enthusiasm and desperation to grab a political appointment, you should be very careful not to destroy the image of our dear country. Sierra Leone is the only country some of us have.
Yours sincerely
Sorie Fofana (Mr.)
Information Attaché,
Sierra Leone High Commission (UK)
Subject: Re: SORIE FOFANA HAS SPOKEN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 05:01:23 10/12/07 ()
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WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Pa Sorie, you are still off your trolly. I remember in 2004 when we suggested to you guys that we register all sierra leoneans as it is important for the mission house to show that it is a responsible body.
I even went on, at a gathering a Blackfriars restaurant, to beg the High Commissioner that such was very important and it show that the state cares for it citizens.
I completed my form twice - a form I downloaded from the London High Commission website - but your office failed to communicate with those who completed their forms.
Your lack of diplomatic r5tact makes one wonder - what are you doing there? Are you there to make war with your people who write things against you or you are there to explain what is happening and would happen as activities grogress.
Suchn is undiplomatic:
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You said the High Commission does not even know the number of Sierra Leoneans living in Great Britain. I tell you why? It is because of people like you who come to the UK and refuse to register with the Sierra Leone High Commission inspite of a public notice on our website to that effect.
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A true diplomat or someone with tact would have written differently so as not to provoke other's involvement. i am now involved because of what you wrote - yactless. The writer, Shekito, is a Sierra leonean and has the right to vent out his concerns - your job was to diffuse his statement without inflaming it.
I completed my forms and you did not acknowledge or send out a report to all as to the number of registrants. Did you do that? How many times did I call to check if your office received my form and no one was able to answer me. They will transfer you from one number to another until the line eventually cuts off.
For simplicity's sake - when was the last time you gave information to the registered citizens their total count? never! When was the last time you even wrote to them with a way of including them in cultural activities that an Embassy should organise? Never! You guys need a lot to do to understand the importance of that mission house. Try and visit the Ghana Consulate at Highgate and you will see what they do for children of Ghanaian parentage. Young boys and girls are encouraged to volunteer to clean the Ghana High Commission, Consulate; participate in cultural Ghanaian activities, bi-monthly meetings - a joint review - the information and trade attaches - brief thier citizens and prospective investors as to how the economy is moving. Pa Sorie there is so much that you guys have neglected that should bring financial benefits and glory to our beloved country but your mission house thinks it is the fault of the citizens. It is your job to convince them that you are there representing them and not yourself.
Please send me my registration number or certificate. Another thing you should do right away, instead of coming to a senseless but vain defence, is to check out your facts - visit your site and check if the registration form links aere working.
L'homme qu'il faut a la place qu'il faut.
Subject: Re: SORIE FOFANA HAS SPOKEN
From: SUBWANALAI
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Date Posted: 04:44:27 10/12/07 ()
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Shekito was warned.
Subject: Urgent information needed
From: The Group for Justice
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Date Posted: 03:57:47 10/12/07 ()
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The 'GROUP FOR JUSTICE' is a new association formed in order to enourage all Sierra Leoneans to come together and bring some people to justice for embezzling funds from our country.
We welcome every useful comments and information you would have that will help us trace these rogues and their wealth. Please forward any evidence to the address below.
groupforjustice@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Re: Urgent information needed
From: Nar Sabi Talk
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Date Posted: 07:02:31 10/12/07 ()
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We need more info about the group, such as members and mission etc, etc...
Subject: Re: Urgent information needed
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 04:16:18 10/12/07 ()
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A very wise move. We will lend iour support toi such a perceived credible outfit. Thanks
Subject: Talking to the President
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 02:29:10 10/12/07 ()
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On the BBC
Subject: Former Attorney General Tells President Ernest Koroma
From: Standard Times
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Date Posted: 23:37:54 10/11/07 ()
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Former Attorney General Tells President Ernest Koroma “Wanza Will Ridicule Our Ex-Head Of State At The ECOWAS Court”
Posted on Oct 11, 2007, 04:04
When the initial summon landed on the door step of Dr. Alhaji Tejan Kabbah at the presidential lodge, Hill Station through DHL courier service. He sent the writ to the Law Officers Department for legal advice. Rather than advising the former president that there was no legal basis to contest the claims of Mr. Mohammed Wansa, the Plaintiff trading as “D&M IMPEX” AND “VULGA NOVA PHARMACY” the Law Officers Department filed in a defence with the impression that the matter would be an easy ride for the Republic of Sierra Leone as First defendant and His Excellency Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, President of the Republic of Sierra Leone as the Second defendant.
Sadly, recent development in the matter since 5th October, 2007 to date has clearly demonstrated that there is no legal ground to emerge victorious in the matter. In short, both defendants have a bad case that they cannot win and whatever arguments advanced at the ECOWAS Court.
This is evident in a recent letter contained on a government MINUTE PAPER written and signed by Mr. Fred Carew, former Attorney General and Minister of Justice and sent to the current President of the Republic of Sierra Leone, His Excellency Ernest Bai Koroma.
The fourth and fifth paragraphs of Mr. Carew,s letter literally begged the current President to intervene into the matter through what he called “amicable settlement” “My office had already prepared and filed a defence in the said case. Quite frankly H.E I am not sure that our defence can adequately withstand Mr.Wanza, s claim in a court of law and I am afraid that if the trial proceeds the facts contained in the plaint Note of Mr. Wanza, will ridicule our former Head of State and perhaps the state of Sierra Leone itself” Fred Carew wrote, and added “ I will therefore recommend to H.E. that WITHOUT PREJUDICE that attempts be made to invite Mr. Wanza by H.E. with a view to further discuss this matter and maybe reach an amicable settlement.”
Thus, the legal advice of the former Attorney General and Minister of Justice has raised serious concerns among members of the present administration. Some are asking why the former attorney General failed to give his true legal opinion to the 2nd defendant, ex-president Kabbah at the initial stage, but is only doing it now when the SLPP has been kicked out of power “This is intellectual and legal deception at the highest level” A member of the APC government remarked.
It would be recalled that the case of Human Rights Abuse was filed against President Kabbah of the SLPP government as the 2nd defendant and the Republic of Sierra Leone as the 1st defendant.
The 1991 Constitution of Sierra Leone makes provision for the state to be sued and can sue in any court of law, both locally and internationally.
“The action of the Plaintiff should not come as a surprise Sierra Leoneans” A former confidante to the ex-president explained.
Meanwhile, in a related development, the Plaintiff has responded to the defence filed at the ECOWAS Court by the defendants. In addition to the letter of the former Attorney General and Minister of Justice is the Plaintiff’s reaction to the defence published yesterday.
Letter writen by Former Attorney General Fred Carew to Pres Ernest Koroma
Plaintiff’s reply (ECOWAS) 2
IN THE COMMUNITY COURT OF JUSTICE
OF THE ECONOMIC COMMUNITY OF
WEST AFRICAN STATES (ECOWAS)
HOLDEN AT ABUJA, NIGERIA
SUIT No. ECW/CCJ/APP/07/07
BETWEEN:
Mohamed Kamel Wansa
Trading as “D & M Impex”, “Melborne Enterprise” PLAINTIFF / APPLICANT
and “Vulga Nova Pharmacy”
AND
1. The Republic of Sierra Leone
2. Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah, Defendants/RESPONDENTS
Former President of the Republic of
Sierra Leone
PLAINTIFF’S REPLY TO DEFENDANT’S DEFENCE
1. Save and in so far as the same consists of admissions, the Plaintiff joins issue with the first and second Defendants upon their Statement of Defence.
2. The Plaintiff denies that the second Defendant is the current Head of State of the Republic of Sierra Leone, his term as Head of State having expired on 14th August, 2007 in accordance with the provisions of section 46(1) read together with section 49(1) of the Constitution of the Republic of Sierra Leone 1991 (Act No. 6 of 1991).
3. The Plaintiff avers further that following the expiration of the second Defendant’s term as Head of State, there was no law of parliament or any other authority enabling the second Defendant to remain or continue in office beyond 14th August, 2007 as Head of State.
4. The Plaintiff also avers that on 17th September, 2007 Mr. Ernest Bai Koroma was elected as Head of State of the Republic of Sierra Leone in place of the second Defendant who is now a private citizen. The immunity from legal proceedings enjoyed by the second Defendant under section 48(4) of the Sierra Leone Constitution ended on 14th August, 2007 when he ceased to be the President/Head of state of Sierra Leone.
5. In the circumstances the Plaintiff avers and shall contend that the second Defendant does not enjoy diplomatic or/any other immunity from legal proceedings under Sierra Leone Law or under any other Law or convention. The “Geneva Conventions on Diplomatic Immunity” referred to in paragraph 1 of the Defence do not exist. This Honourable Court therefore has the competence to hear and determine this matter against the second Defendant, the subject matter of the suit being simply based on breaches of the Plaintiff’s fundamental rights guaranteed by International Laws, Treaties, customs and conventions with no element of crime whatsoever.
6. Furthermore, the immunity conferred on the second Defendant as President of Sierra Leone under section 48(4) of the constitution is applicable only in the court of Sierra Leone, and whilst he may be entitled as a matter of customary international law to enjoy immunity from suit in any national Court, such immunity is not available to him before international courts of which the ECOWAS Community Court of Justice is one. Reference is made to; inter alia, the decision of the Special Court of Sierra Leone in Prosecutor v. Charles Ghankay Taylor, Case No SCSL-2003-01-1, 31 May 2004 where the principle was enunciated as follows:
“The principle of state immunity derives from the equality of sovereign states and therefore has no relevance to international … tribunals which are not organs of a state but derived their mandate from the international community.”
Reliance is also placed on the judgment of the Supreme Court of Sierra Leone in the case of Issa Hassan Sessay & others V The President of the Special Court & Others, case No. S.C.1/2003, 14 October 2005 which concerned the interpretation of section 48(4) of the Constitution of the Republic of Sierra Leone 1991(Act No.6 of 1991). At page 13 it is stated:
“The next provision of the Constitution to be interpreted is that contained in section 48(4) of the Constitution. It deals with the immunity from civil and criminal process enjoyed by the President for anything done or omitted to be done by him either in his official or private
capacity. Let me hasten to state that a distinction ought to be made between immunity from suit under domestic law on the one hand and under international law on the other hand.
A serving Head of State is entitled to absolute immunity from process brought before national courts as well as before the national courts of third States except it has been waived by the State concerned. The Principle was applied by the House of Lords in the Pinochet proceedings (see R v Bow Street Metropolitan Stipendiary Magistrate and others, ex parte Pinochet Ugarte (2002) 1 AC 61; R v Bow Street Metropolitan Stipendiary Magistrate and others, ex parte Pinochet Ugarte (No.2) at (2002) 1AC 119 and R v Bow Street Metropolitan Stipendiary Magistrate and others, ex parte Pinochet Ugarte (No.3) at (2000) 1AC 147) and the Case concerning the Arrest Warrant of 11 April,2000 (Democratic Republic of Congo v Belgium before the International Court of Justice (2002 ICJ Reports). In contrast, where the immunity is claimed by a Head of State before an international court the position to be inferred from decisions of various national courts and international tribunals, and the writings of international jurists is that there exists no a priori entitlement to claim immunity particularly from criminal process involving international crimes.”
In answer to the first paragraph 9 of the Defence, the Plaintiff avers that he has indeed been prevented from pursuing any of his claims in the Courts of Sierra Leone. Having fled from Sierra Leone on 23 March 1997 as a result of fears for his personal safety caused by the second Defendant he has never been in a position safely to return to the country up until the present moment, more so because he was expelled thereafter with the threat, implicit in the express terms of the order whereunder he was expelled, of arrest and detention should he set foot on Sierra Leonean soil. As is demonstrated in the Plaintiff’s narration of facts and the explanations of his claims therein, in particular claims 1, 2 and 8 at least, those claims are such as will require the Plaintiff to attend personally to give evidence in respect of them. An individual’s right to a fair trial/have his case heard necessarily includes the right of access to a Court, in which connection paragraph 161(m) of the Plaintiff’s claim herein is repeated. The Defendants’ acts of depriving the Plaintiff of his Sierra Leonean citizenship and expelling him from Sierra Leone accordingly amount to a violation of his right to a fair trial of his claims guaranteed by Article 7 of the African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights which states, in material part, as follows:
“Article 7
1. Every individual shall have the right to have his cause heard. This comprises:
a) The right to an appeal to competent national organs against acts of violating his fundamental rights as recognized and guaranteed by conventions, laws, regulations and customs in force…”
Reliance is also placed on the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in the case of Golder v. United Kingdom [1975] 1EAHRR524 which concerned Article 6 of the European Convention of Human Rights which is materially identical to Article 7 of the African Charter. At paragraph 35 it is stated:
“… the principle whereby a civil claim must be capable of being submitted to a Judge ranks as one of the universally recognized fundamental principles of law; the same is true of the principle of international law which forbids the denial of justice. Article 6(1) must be read in the light of these principles.
…
It would be inconceivable, in the opinion of the Court, that Article 6(1) should describe in detail the procedural guarantees afforded to parties in a pending law suit and should not first protect that which alone makes it in fact possible to benefit from such guarantees, that is, access to a Court.”
8. Furthermore, the Plaintiff avers and will contend that his expulsion from Sierra Leone by the Defendants without an opportunity to be heard was also a direct violation of his fundamental right under Article 7 of the Charter. In response to the stated reasons for the expulsion given in paragraphs 3, 6, 7 and 8 of the Defence, reliance is placed on the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in the case of Lupsa v. Romania [2006] 2FCR685, and in particular the comment (at paragraph 38) that:
“… a person subject to a measure based on national security considerations must not be deprived of all guarantees against arbitrariness. He must, among other things, be able to have the measure in question scrutinized by an independent and impartial body competent to review all the relevant questions of fact and law, in order to determine the lawfulness of the measure and punish a possible abuse by the authorities. Before that supervisory body the person concerned must have the benefit of adversarial proceedings in order to present his point of view and refute the arguments of the authorities …”
9. In addition to the violations averred in paragraphs 7 and 8 above, the Plaintiff further avers that the Defendants’ refusal to reverse the deprivation of the Plaintiff’s citizenship and the Order of his expulsion unless he gave up his claims against the government, was entirely arbitrary and yet another flagrant violation of his right under Article 7 of the Charter.
10. As stated in paragraph 7 above the Plaintiff avers that he left Sierra Leone on 23rd March, 1997 and has never returned to that country. When he was deprived of his citizenship and expelled on 31st March,1998 he was outside the country and was never served with either the Deprivation Order or the Expulsion Order contrary to what the Defendants have attempted to portray by their Exhibits TEC1(1-6).
11. In answer to paragraph 7 of the Defendants’ narration of facts which is hereby denied, the Plaintiff states that between 1991 and 1996 he never supplied any military hardware (meaning arms and ammunition) to any government of Sierra Leone either military or civilian, including the NPRC and AFRC governments. In fact during those years the AFRC was not in existence because it came to power only on 27th May, 1997 as admitted by the Defendants in paragraph 25 of their narration of facts.
12. The Plaintiff avers that he never entered into any contracts with the AFRC government throughout its tenure even though both the AFRC and NPRC were de facto and de jure governments of Sierra Leone at different times.
13. From 1991 to April, 1992 the Plaintiff did business with the civilian government of Late Dr. J. S. Momoh and between May 1992 and March, 1996 with the NPRC government when the second Defendant was the Chairman of the Advisory Council of the NPRC government. The NPRC government was recognized world wide by the International Community including the United Nations Organization (U.N.O), the organization of African Unity (O.A.U) (now African Union (A.U)) and the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS). It was on the basis of this international recognition that Captain Valentine Strasser, Head of the NPRC government signed the Revised Treaty of the Economic Community of West African States at Cotonou on 24th July, 1993 as Sierra Leonean Head of State together with the Heads of State of other ECOWAS countries.
(Copy of the relevant pages of the Revised Treaty of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) containing the signatories to the Revised Treaty including the signature of Captain Valentine Strasser, Head of the NPRC on behalf of the Republic of Sierra Leone is hereby pleaded and marked MKW 147 and shall be relied upon in the course of this case)
14. The Plaintiff denies that any of the contracts he entered into with the first Defendant was in anyway irregular or fraudulent as alleged in paragraphs 8 and 20 of the Narration of facts in support of the Defence. The Defendants are required to give particulars of the so called irregularities and fraud and to state clearly the contracts to which they relate as the second Defendant’s Press Release of 3rd March, 1997 (see Exhibit MKW 18 in the Plaintiff’s pleading) relates only to the contract for the procurement of the M.V. “Sharon”, which is only one of eleven of such contracts.
15. Fraud of any descr1ption and in any context being a crime, the Defendants are put not only to strict proof of the alleged fraud but to proof beyond reasonable doubt.
16. The Plaintiff avers that the allegations of irregularities and fraud in paragraphs 8 and 20 of the Defendant’s narration of facts are contradicted and therefore belied by the contents of paragraph 12, 13, 18, 24, 25 and 30 of the said narration.
17. The Defendants are put to strict proof of their allegations in paragraphs 25 and 30 of payments of “huge” sums of money to the Plaintiff for his contracts.
18. The Plaintiff contends that the NPRC was de facto and de jure government of Sierra Leone and the contracts it entered into with the Plaintiff are valid and binding on the Defendants as all assets and liabilities acquired or incurred by that government were inherited by, transferred to and taken over by the Defendants in the normal course of business and in accordance with the norms, practices and conventions of government and international law. Consequently, the Defendants have a duty to honour their legitimate contractual obligations and must not be allowed to resile from or arbitrarily repudiate contracts validly entered into by their predecessors in office.
19. Further, since coming into office, the Defendants have officially and unequivocally accepted liability for payment to the Plaintiff of the monies owed to him under the various contracts involved in this case. Two sets of auditors employed by the Defendants verified and recommended for payment all the Plaintiff’s claims amongst others and the reports of both sets of auditors were accepted and approved by the Cabinet of the second Defendant vide its cabinet conclusions endorsing PKF and Estina Kabia’ reports dated 4th September,2002 and 29th October, 2003 respectively. (see Exhibits MKW 113 and MKW 115 attached to the Plaintiff’s pleading) and in several letters to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) pleaded and attached to the Plaintiff’s pleading, the Defendants assured and made a commitment to the IMF that the debts owed to the Plaintiff as verified and approved by Mrs. Estina Kabia would be securitized or amortized.
In fact the claims of each of the other domestic creditors whose claims relate for contracts awarded by the NPRC government were audited under the IMF programme have been paid apart from those of the Plaintiff.
(Copy of the Summary of the Plaintiff’s claims as approved for payment by Mrs. Estina Kabia is hereby pleaded and marked MKW 148 and shall be relied upon in the course of this case)
It is therefore too late in the day for the Defendants to disown the contracts as irregular illegitimate or fraudulent. Their present attempt to do so is nothing but an after-thought contrived for the purpose of avoiding their contractual obligations. They cannot approbate and reprobate. They are estopped.
20. When on 29th April, 2005 the Defendants wrote to the Plaintiff rejecting his claims on their allegation that the claims were “illegitimate” the Plaintiff wrote in reply on 3rd May,2005 requesting to know the reason for the sudden and unexpected decision and after recounting the history of his futile efforts to have his claims paid he accused the government of flagrant disregard and abuse of his basic human rights and of misreporting to and deceiving the IMF on their professed commitments on the settlements of domestic suppliers’ claims under the PRGF scheme supported by the Fund.
(Copy of the Plaintiff’s letter to the Financial Secretary of the SECOND Defendant dated 3rd May, 2005 is hereby pleaded and marked MKW 149 and shall be relied upon in the course of this case)
21. Of the total part payment made to the Plaintiff in respect of the M.V. “Sharon” 100,000,000 Leones (the equivalent of US $ 101,010.00) was paid on 26th August, 1996 by the administration of the second Defendant which shows clearly that branding the contract as irregular, illegitimate or fraudulent is untenable and unjust. So also is the spirited attempt by the officials of the second Defendant’s administration to rescind or abrogate the M.V. Sharon contract which was met by the recommendations of the Sierra Leone Parliament after due investigation that the contract was valid and the Plaintiff was entitled to his payment (see exhibit 14 in the Plaintiff’s pleading) and the recommendations of the two-man committee set up by the second Defendant to investigate and report to him on how the matter could be resolved.(see exhibit MKW 15 in the Plaintiff’s pleading)
22. The Defendants’ spurious allegation in paragraph 3 of their Defence and paragraphs 2,4,6,7,15,16,21,28 and 29 of their Narration of facts that the Plaintiff was trading or associated with the enemy is equally untenable and is hereby denied. The Defendants did not say who this enemy was and Sierra Leone is not known to have been involved in any war with another State. The country’s civil war was not such a war and none of the parties in that war can be described as “the enemy”.
23. The plaintiff avers that after the Country’s civil war, treason trials were held and those suspected to have been involved on the side of the rebels of the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) were tried and many of them were punished. Throughout those treason trials, not once was the Plaintiff’s name mentioned as a collaborator with the rebels and no evidence of involvement was given against him for which reason he was never tried. Further, when these facts were stated in the application for restoration of the Plaintiff’s citizenship by his lawyer, Mr. Browne-Marke, (see Browne Marke’s letter dated 10th October, 2006) (see Exhibit MKW 24 in the Plaintiff’s pleading) they were not denied by the Defendants. Rather the Defendants were prepared to restore the Plaintiff’s citizenship and revoke his expulsion from the country if he would give up his claims against the government. (see exhibits MKW 25 and MKW 26 in the Plaintiff’s pleading)
24. When the applications for the revocation of the 1998 Deprivations and Expulsions were being considered by the cabinet sub-committee, security checks and investigations were carried out by the Sierra Leone Police on all the applicants including the Plaintiff and in his letter to the Deputy Inspector-General of Police, the National Security Co-coordinator in the office of the President wrote that there was no proof that the applicants had been engaged in subversive activities and/or other dubious and nefarious deal following their expulsion from Sierra Leone.
(Copy of the National Security Co-ordinator’s letter to the Deputy Inspector General of Police dated 24th October, 2006 is hereby pleaded and marked MKW 150 and shall be relied upon in the course of this case)
25. Also in his letter to the chairman, cabinet sub-committee on the review of Expulsion and Deprivation of Citizenship in 1998 dated 30th October, 2006, the Deputy Inspector-General of Police confirmed that there was no “Criminal or Adverse Security record traced against” the Plaintiff and six other applicants expelled and deprived of their citizenship in 1998.
(Copy of the Deputy Inspector-General’s letter dated 30th October, 2006 is hereby pleaded and marked MKW 151 and shall be relied upon in the course of the trial)
The Plaintiff therefore denies the allegations in paragraphs 4, 6, 7, 15, 22 and 29 that he was supplying military hardware to the enemy or engaged in subversive activities.
26. In answer to paragraphs 22, 23, and 24 of the Defendant’s narration of facts, the Plaintiff denies that any of the events occurred when the AFRC government was in power. The persecution of the Plaintiff in the manner narrated in paragraphs 52-54 of the Plaintiff’s pleading was carried out by the second defendant and his government after they succeeded the AFRC government in 1998. The responsibility is therefore, squarely that of the first and second Defendants to compensate the Plaintiff for his losses arising from wrongs done to him through the use of state apparatus and machinery.
27. The Plaintiff denies paragraph 25 of the Defendant’s narration of facts and avers that since he fled from Sierra Leone on 23rd March, 1997 as a result of fear for his personal safety caused by the second Defendant he has never returned to the country up till the present moment, more so because he was expelled therefrom with the implied threat of arrest and detention should he set foot on Sierra Leonean soil.
28. In reply to paragraph 19 of the Defendants’ narration of facts which the Plaintiff denies, the Plaintiff contends that the exercise of the executive power of the State of Sierra Leone vested in the second Defendant by section 51 (3) of the Constitution of Sierra Leone was not meant to be arbitrary but must be guided by a sense of justice and with due regard to the requirements of the rule of law. The second Defendant’s action was clearly an abuse of executive power. Particulars of any justification for the discriminatory rejection of the Plaintiff’s audited and verified claims and the rejection of the Parliamentary Report and recommendations of his two-man committee on the M.V. “Sharon” were not given and the Plaintiff was not afforded the right to challenge the decision which was decisive of his rights to payment in respect of the MV Sharon. This was another violation of the Plaintiff’s rights under Article 7 of the African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights, and the comments of the European Court of Human Rights in the case of Lupsa v. Romania quoted in paragraph 8 above are equally on point here, even more so given that there was not even the pretence that the decision was made for reasons of national security. Reliance is also placed on the principle exemplified by the decision of the European Court of Human Rights in Stran Greek Refineries and Stratis v. Greece [1994] 19 EHRR 293 that the intervention of a state authority decisively to ensure that the outcome of a matter directly involving the state is favourable to it, whilst the matter is ongoing, is an unlawful infringement of the right to a fair trial in respect of that matter.
29. In answer to paragraph 6 of the Defence and paragraphs 27and 28 of the Defendants’ narration of facts, the Plaintiff repeats and shall rely on the averments in paragraphs 57-64 of his pleading to the effect that the Deprivation of his citizenship was made arbitrarily maliciously and without regard to the relevant laws and therefore the said deprivation was without any legal basis.
30. Generally in response to both the first and the second Defendants’ purported justifications for their actions depriving the Plaintiff of his rights, the Plaintiff will rely, in addition to the cases already cited herein, on the plethora of authorities in the field of international human rights law policing the activities of organs of the state. These include, but are not limited to, the judgments of the European Court of Human Rights in the further cases of Baumann v. France [2002] 34EHRR44, Albert and le
Compte v. Belgium [1983] ECHR533, de Gouffre de La Pradelle v. France [1992] A253-B and Fayed v. The United Kingdom [1994] EGRRH. All of these authorities further underline the fundamental, and internationally recognized, human right of an individual to require the decisions of any national authority which affect, whether directly or indirectly, his civil rights to be scrutinized by an impartial tribunal in a procedure with full “equality of arms”. The Plaintiff avers and will contend that at every turn he has been deprived of these rights, which has led ultimately to his being deprived of his right to the judicial resolution of his commercial claims for debts owed to him by the first Defendant.
31. On the Defendant’s counterclaim for the sum of US$ 1.4 million, the Plaintiff repeats and shall rely on the averments in paragraphs 34 -39 and paragraphs 81 and 82 of his pleading to the effect that the Defendants were in breach of contract when they refused to pay the balance due on the M.V. “Sharon” and take delivery of same. The Plaintiff repeats that the sum of US$ 1.4 million or any other sum paid on the contract can only be claimed by the Defendants as a set-off by deducting same from the sum of US$ 11,200,000.00 due to the Plaintiff occasioned by the Defendants’ breach of contract.
32. The Plaintiff shall therefore urge the court to dismiss the counter claim with substantial costs for lack of merit.
Dated this 2nd day of October, 2007.
B. J. AKOMOLAFE ESQ.
CHIEF AFE BABALOLA, SAN & CO,
PLAINTIFF’S COUNSEL,
24, MADEIRA STREET,
(EMMANUEL HOUSE)
IMANI ESTATE,
MAITAMA,
ABUJA
NIGERIA.
Plaintiff’s Solicitor’s address for service at the seat of the Court:
CHIEF AFE BABALOLA, SAN & CO.
PLAINTIFF’S COUNSEL,
24, MADEIRA STREET,
(EMMANUEL HOUSE)
IMANI ESTATE,
MAITAMA,
ABUJA
NIGERIA.
Names of persons authorized to accept service:
(1) Chief Afe Babalola Esq. (SAN)
(2) Any of his Staff
Service may also be effected on the Plaintiff’s Solicitors by telefax or other technical means of communication in accordance with Article 33 Rule 2 on facsimile No. (234) 09-7803145,
E-mail: bankoleakomolafe@yahoo.com or abutu_j@yahoo.co.uk and/or (234) 073-453886 and E-mail: uit_nig@yahoo.com.
ADDRESS FOR SERVICE ON THE DEFENDANTS
1. The Republic of Sierra Leone
C/o The Sierra Leone High Commissioner to Nigeria
Plot 308 Mission Road,
Diplomatic Zone, Central Business
District, Area 10, Garki
Abuja.
And/or
The Republic of Sierra Leone
Office of the President
Presidential Lodge
Hill Station
Freetown
Republic of Sierra Leone
Tel: 234-003, 231-518
2. Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah
C/o The Sierra Leone High Commissioner to Nigeria
Plot 308 Mission Road,
Diplomatic Zone, Central Business
District, Area 10, Garki
Abuja.
And/or
Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah
Office of the President
Presidential Lodge
Hill Station
Freetown
Republic of Sierra Leone
Tel: 234-003, 231-518
IN THE COMMUNITY COURT OF JUSTICE
OF THE ECONOMIC COMMUNITY OF
WEST AFRICAN STATES (ECOWAS)
HOLDEN AT ABUJA, NIGERIA
SUIT No. ECW/CCJ/APP/07/07
BETWEEN:
Mohamed Kamel Wansa
Trading as “D & M Impex”, “Melborne Enterprise” PLAINTIFF / APPLICANT
and “Vulga Nova Pharmacy”
AND
1. The Republic of Sierra Leone
2. Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah, Defendants/RESPONDENTS
Former President of the Republic of
Sierra Leone
SCHEDULE LISTING DOCUMENTS RELIED ON BY PLAINTIFF
S/N. EXIBIT NO. PARTICULARS
1 MKW 147 Copy of the relevant pages of the Revised
Treaty of the Economic Community
of West African States (ECOWAS) containing the signatories to the Revised Treaty including the signature of Captain Valentine Strasser, Head of the NPRC on behalf of the Republic of Sierra Leone.
S/N. EXIBIT NO. PARTICULARS
2 MKW 148 Copy of the Summary of the Plaintiff’s
claims as approved for payment by the
Auditor Mrs. Estina Kabia
3 MKW 149 Copy of the Plaintiff’s letter to the
Financial Secretary of the second Defendant dated 3rd May, 2005
4 MKW 150 Copy of the National Security
Co-ordinator’s letter to the Deputy Inspector-General of Police dated 24th October, 2006
5 MKW 151 Copy of the Deputy Inspector-General’s
letter dated 30th October, 2006
IN THE COMMUNITY COURT OF JUSTICE
OF THE ECONOMIC COMMUNITY OF
WEST AFRICAN STATES (ECOWAS)
HOLDEN AT ABUJA, NIGERIA
SUIT No. ECW/CCJ/APP/07/07
BETWEEN:
Mohamed Kamel Wansa
Trading as “D & M Impex”, “Melborne Enterprise” PLAINTIFF / APPLICANT
and “Vulga Nova Pharmacy”
AND
1. The Republic of Sierra Leone
2. Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah, Defendants/RESPONDENTS
Former President of the Republic of
Sierra Leone
CASES REFERRED TO IN THE PLAINTIFF’S REPLY TO DEFENDANT’S DEFENCE
1. PROSECUTOR V CHARLES GHANKAY TAYLOR, CASE NO. SCSL-2003-01-01, 31 MAY, 2004.
2. ISSA HASSAN SESSAY & OTHERS V THE PRESIDENT OF THE SPECIAL COURT & OTHERS, CASE NO. S.C. 1/2003, 14 OCTOBER,2005
3 GOLDER V UNITED KINGDOM (1975) 1EHRR524
4 LUPSA V ROMANIA (2006) 2 FCR 685
5 STAN GREEK REFINERIES AND STRATIS V GREECE (1994) 19EHRR293
6 BAUMANN V FRANCE (2002) 34EHRR44
7 ALBERT AND LE COMPTE V BELGIUM (1983) ECHR533
8 DE GEOUFFRE DE LA PRADELLE V FRANCE (1992) A253-B
9 FAYED V THE UNITED KINGDOM (1994) 18EGRR
Subject: Gosh!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 23:29:11 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Yah!
Subject: All my life
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 23:25:41 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Wow!
Subject: Would you?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:50:53 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Of course I would.
Subject: Are you with me!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:49:06 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Lets jam.
Subject: Ex President Kabba and Presidential Immunity
From: Joseph A.K Sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:42:27 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Examining Presidential Immunity –The Case Before the ECOWAS Court
Posted on Oct 11, 2007, 13:25
Immunity basically exempts Heads of State or Government officials (for the purpose of this article) from prosecutions for alleged crimes committed before a court of law. In Sierra Leone jurisprudence, the 1991 constitution provides for a Presidential immunity. It states that immunity applies to any person holding or performing the functions of the Office of the President. As spelt out in section 48(4), no civil or criminal proceedings can be instituted or continued against him in respect of anything done either by act or omission by him either in official or private capacity. Immunity can also be applicable for unofficial acts or omission for a person holding or performing the functions of the Office of the President. This is to ensure that there is no burden that would hinder the ability of the President to perform his official duties effectively.
However, international courts can exercise jurisdiction over a serving head of state. Some International statutes articulate that Heads of State are not immune from criminal prosecution and can be found individually criminally responsible if there is sufficient evidence that they authorized or perpetrated international crimes. Article 6(2) of the Statute of the Special Court for Sierra Leone (SCSL) provides that “the official position of any accused person, whether as Head of State of Government or a responsible government Official shall not relieve such a person of criminal responsibility…” In 2004 the SCSL rejected a preliminary motion by Charles Taylor requesting that the Court drops his indictment and all consequential orders against him because at the time they were issued he was the President of Liberia during which he enjoyed Presidential immunity. Citing long-established precedent, including the Charters of the Nuremberg and the Tokyo Tribunals, the Statutes of the International Criminal Tribunals for the former Yugoslavia and for Rwanda, the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court and the Special Court’s own Statute, the SCSL ruled that Charles Taylor was not immune from prosecution stating that Heads of State do not enjoy immunity for crimes under international law. Article 27(2) of the Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC) provides that the Statute “…shall apply equally to all persons without any distinction based on official capacity…” Similarly, Article 7 of the Charter of the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg Charter), states that “the official position of defendants, whether as Heads of State or responsible official in government shall not bar prosecution.
Currently, there is a case before the Community Court of Justice (CCJ) of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), between Mohamed Kamel Wansa Trading as “D & M Impex”, “Melborne Enterprise” and Vulga Nova Pharmacy” as the Plaintiff and the Republic of Sierra Leone as the First defendant and His Excellency, Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, former President of the Republic of Sierra Leone as the Second defendant. The suit is filed (inter alia) pursuant to Art. 11(1), 9(4), of the Protocol of the CCJ, Art. 2, 5, 7, 12(1) (2) and 14 of the African Charter on Human and People’s Rights, Art. 32 and 33 of the Rules of the CCJ and Section 15, 18, and 27(2) of the 1991 Constitution of the Republic of Sierra Leone. The Plaintiff alleged that his right against discrimination was violated by the First and Second defendants through an outright denial of payment for goods and services supplied to the Government of Sierra Leone (GOSL) and an unlawful and arbitrary expulsion from Sierra Leone for the purpose of denying him his legitimate payment for goods and services supplied to the GOSL. The Court can adjudicate on the matter because the Plaintiff’s applications are pursuant to international instruments such as the African Charter on Human and People’s Rights and the Protocol of the CCJ. It can be argued that the second defendant had Presidential immunity during the time for which the Plaintiff seeks redress as a result no court action can be instituted against him. Furthermore, in the Sierra Leone jurisprudence, certain acts or omission by the State are not justiceable. On the other hand, international instruments take precedence over national Laws and practices. However, for some of the applications pursuant to the 1991 constitution of the Republic of Sierra Leone and the Sierra Leone Citizenship Act, it is likely that the Second defendant can claim Presidential immunity for actions carried out while he was the President. He cannot be liable for prosecution as set out in Sec. 48(4) of the 1991 Constitution of the Republic of Sierra Leone while he is in the discharge of the duties of the office of the President. However, he must convince the court as to why he should be immune from prosecution. This tradition goes back to Spalding v. Vilas (1896). There the Court held: "In exercising the function of his office, the head of an Executive Department, keeping within the limitations of his authority, should not be under any apprehension that the motives that control his official conduct may at any time become the subject of inquiry in a civil suit for damages. It would cripple the proper and effective administration of public affairs as entrusted to the Executive Branch of the government if he were subject to any such restraint." [Spalding v. Vilas 1896 161 U.S. 483 (1896)] The burden must lie with the President to prove why his office mandates his immunity from the law which is the only arbiter of justice.
As regarded by International instruments, the protection of human rights should be a responsibility of any state. Suffice it to say that the Plaintiff’s application pursuant to Art 13(1) and (2) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights which states that “Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state” and, “Everyone has the right to leave in any country, including his own, and to return to his country” should be adjudicated. In addition, by virtue of the fact that international instruments take precedence over national laws and practice, it will be little wonder if the Second defendant is held responsible as alleged. If the CCJ upholds this phenomenon, it would send a message to all sitting Heads of State that one cannot use the protection of Presidential immunity to causally violate the Rights of others.
Subject: Cocorioko Idiot Admires John Mannah!
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 21:07:09 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
In one of his copious articles, Dr. John Mannah disparaged Cocorioko as the home of idiots. So I asked one of the resident Cocorioko idiots, who happens to be a very good friend of mine, to declare his admiration for John Mannah in the SLPP forum. The following is my buddy's ode to the incomparable Doctor.
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Posted by John Mannah Fan on October 11, 2007 at 05:39:43:
I am riting to let evrybody knows that John Mannah is the bests interlecsual in the histry of sarra leone. I knose some of you are very yelos of the great John Mannah. Some of you are yuths of Momoh and SSD shaka Probin Stivins from cocorioko whu want to bring don the best interlecsual brains from the contrie of sarra lione. Bot you will all fail lek the agboloh frog in the cat's mot. Sarra leonnans must stop the bad haert for the brains of john Mannah and his economics superioriness. Mohamid yalloh, bai bureh, Amidu bayOh, Moses kpaka, Somtin butU and the odher haterers shuld go jump in Lumliy beachch if they can not admire our next plesedent and the only plesident wit a real true true PHD in the tranga econimix digri, his exselensy the nomba ones plesedent, Dokytor John Mannah. Lonta
Sinsialay,
John Mannah Fanatic!
Plesedent of John Mannah fan Clob all ober the worlds
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In Reply to: JOHN MANNAH FOR PRESIDENT! posted by John Mannah Fan on October 11, 2007 at 05:39:43:
Correcson: Sorry for mistaking the spielin of PLESEDENT. My tupit nephew rote the wrong spelin. It shudint be PRESIDENT. Correct spelin is PLESEDENT. Please forgiv my very tupit nephew.
John Mannah Fanatic
Subject: Re: Cocorioko Idiot Admires John Mannah!
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 04:28:32 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-202-227.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.202.227
Message:
Fan, your posting was difficult to read. However, I was able to make sense
out of it. Who is John Mannah? What was/is his contribution(s) to the
republic of Sierra Leone? Could you please defend his legacy?
Subject: Re: Cocorioko Idiot Admires John Mannah!
From: Answer
To: All
Date Posted: 09:10:28 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
He is a linguistically challenged mende triablist and lie-lie "financial economis" (LOL). He is being driven crazy by the failure of his scheme to plunder the money of the people of Salone on the coat-tail of a corrupt SLPP.
Subject: The APC Party
From: Eku Richards
To: All
Date Posted: 19:17:25 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: jrichards20@cox.net
Entered From: ip72-192-61-24.ri.ri.cox.net at 72.192.61.24
Message:
I have read Cocorioko for some weeks now and all I read is praises for the APC party. I want to say we are all praying for the new government to stamp out corruption and make Sierra Leone a great nation. However it appears many of us are suffering from amnesia because it was not the SLPP did destroyed our country but the one party, non democratic and corrupt rule of the APC party
I know Kabba achieved zero but lets not forget it was because of APC corruption that got us into civil war.
Therefore lets all pray for the new president that God will help him.
Subject: Re: The APC Party
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:47:27 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Mr. Eku Richards:
Please note that President Kabbah achieved much more than zero.
He brought peace to SL during his first term and succeeded in persuading the international community to bankroll SL humantarian calamity. During his second term, he commenced work on building institutions and improving infrastructure nation-wide.
Lungi Airport was renovated superbly. The old colonial secretariate building, destroyed by the AFRC/RUF, was rebuilt. The Bank of Sierra Leone building as well as the law courts were rebuilt and/or renovated. Schools, markets, health clinics, hospitals, waterwells, lorry parks and latrines were either renovated, rebuilt or build anew nationwide.
Next, President Kabbah embarked on infrasturcture development and institution-building. The road from MaSiaka to Makeni was completed with with a hard, smooth, blacktop finish. The hardtop renovation of the road from Bo to MaSiaka had reached Taiama at election time.
Various institutions were being created via detailed legislation and included NASSIT, intended to provide cash substenance for old age destitute citizens and into whose bank account the proceeds of the sale of Libyan-donated rice were deposited to provide it (NASSIT) with the initial capital.
Thus, merely because voters voted out the SLPP does not mean that Kabbah's SLPP Administrations achieved zero while in office. In the future, please try to be fair in your criticisms. Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: Re: The APC Party
From: Kalangba
To: All
Date Posted: 04:36:18 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
when you take the manes of krio people you should at least write like they would. You dont sound like an Ekundayoh Richards.
Subject: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 19:07:07 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I am a bit skittish over the fact that Ernest Koroma's "The New Dawn in Sierra Leone" has so far ignored the South-Eastern parts of the country. A cabinet formed with the need for a geographic balance could reduce the long-held feelings of estrangement harbored in the South-East against the APC. Judging by his choice of cabinet Ministers, President Koroma has so far shown that the APC--like the SLPP--cannot submerge ethnic temptations for a composite Sierra Leone wedded to national oneness. Most, if not all, the weighty cabinet posts were either assigned to the West, or simply given to the North, Ekutay style.
What is Ernest Koroma's geographic perception of Sierra Leone? Is he not interested in breaking the ethnic blocs formed by both the SLPP and APC over the years? The SLPP and APC are generally regarded as ethnic-driven parties heavily reliant on South-Eastern and Northern kinships respectively. "A New Dawn in Sierra Leone," as Cocorioko calls it, could have transcended regional folksiness by giving Sierra Leone a regionally balanced cabinet. So far, the new cabinet looks like an exact replica of an Ekutay edifice. Where is this "New Dawn" taking us, me famble dem?
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:30 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Food for Thought
Under SLPP:
President-Tejan Kabba (South East)
Vice President-Solo Bee(South East)
Minister of Finance-John Benjamin(South East)
Minister of Foreign Affairs-Momodu Koroma(South East)
Minister of Mines-Swarray Deen(South East)
Minister of Transport-Prince Harding(South East)
Minister of Works-Boima(South East)
Minister of Gender Affairs-Gbujama(South East)
Commissioner of Revenue-Karimu(South East)
Minister of Information-Kai Kai (South East)
Minister of Internal Affairs-Egbenda(South East)
Did anyone complain?
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:25:53 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear BRA ENVIABLE:
Please, please allow the New APC government of President Koroma sufficient time to get established securely and demonstrate its capacity to provide good governance for our country. So far, in my view, he is doing just great!
Frankly, whether officials are from this or that tribe or section of the country is not really significant. What matters is whether those appointed to public office have the superior talent/ability to provide and can indeed provide sustainable good governance for our people after years and years of suffering from poor governance.
Presidents Siaka Stevens, Momoh, Kabbah and the NPRC coupists all had officials whose origins reflected national geographic balance; but did they all work effectively all the time to improve the lives of our people sustainably? NO!
So please let's focus on what the new government can deliver to uplift our peoples lives and modernize our backward country, rather than on whether a particular region or tribe has officeholders in President Koroma's newly elected administration. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 20:03:21 10/11/07 ()
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I may be naive, but there is bound to be a certain amount of "imbalance" in a cabinet selection. Basically a president selects people that he is close to, people he trusts, people that helped finance or worked for his campaign, and people that supported his party. As you have stated in your piece, the APC and SLPP are regionally based parties so it should be expected that the people that fall within theses categories will be disproportionately represented. This is not unusual in politics - during the Clinton years, the FOB's were everywhere. In the Bush II era, the administration resembles the Texas governor's mansion. IMHO, regional balance is achieved through the parliament, who are elected representatives of the people and can protect the interests of their constituents. The president's cabinet should be made up of (hopefully ) competent people that support and can execute the president's agenda, irrespective of their region of origin.
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: Yayah Kallay
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Date Posted: 02:49:29 10/12/07 ()
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Latae!
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:25:37 10/11/07 ()
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Fellow Sierra Leoneans, are we the tribalists, sectionalists and opportunists or is the President the tribalist and sectionalist?
The reason I asked is that the President has not finished naming his cabinet, we have jumped all over him with accusations that we have not thoroughly investigated and or confirmed to be true yet, we are speaking authoritatively as though we are positively sure of what we are claiming. Ten chances to one, most here do not even know the actual sectional or tribal origins of some of the named Ministers but are basing their suppositions on name recognition, supposed affiliation, baseless stereotyping and the like, without any thorough knowledge of who is who or who has what sectional or tribal affiliations?
Are we interested in people that will work effectively with the President to promote his agenda and push the country forward or just any one that is called a Minister hailing from all over the place? I would think that what we should be concerned with is whether or not the mentioned people have the ethics and leadership personalities to work with the President for the betterment of Sierra Leone and not what tribe or section they belong to. Does it matter if all Ministers come from the South but cannot help the Southern people? To kill tribalistic and sectionalistic sentiments, we must deviate from irate assumptions based solely on tribe and section and rather think national.
What we must be thinking is, do the President view these partial Cabinet members to be people who seek the interest of Sierra Leone as a nation not on sectional components, and that working with them will bring national consciousness because of things they have done in the past, ideas they have that are far removed from tribal and or sectional fickleness?
To point to you that you have been very unfair in your assessments is the fact that you did not know or recall that the Vice President is from Kono, which symbolizes the President's inclusive agenda, in that Kono is in the Eastern Province therefore, the East has got a representation. More so, as I mentioned earlier, we do not even know about the sections from which some of the named Ministers hail yet, we continue to categorically claim that they are all from the North and the West. That is an unfair assessment because we do not have any substantial evidence to purport our claims besides we have not assessed their national interest, their leadership personalities and ethical fitness to perform for a better Sierra Leone rather, we base our arguments on tribe and sections, as I said, that we have no proof of..
I am pleading with you to be patient, look forward to a better Sierra Leone by thinking national and stop hopping for your family members to be Ministers, as this was a reason Sierra Leone failed. Most members who were Ministers hailed from constituencies and the same tribe but did not help the people at all, which the President sees a hindrance to the people he cares for therefore, he is looking to put people in positions that will work in the interest of the people not those that will satisfy the people with tribal affiliation or the sectional identification gratification. We are Sierra Leoneans first and we are looking for those who will route Sierra Leone out of the mess she is in whether they are Mendes Temene, Krio o Susu does not matter. What matters is, will they bring Sierra Leone the needs that we urgently want satisfied.
Be patient.
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: ITK
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Date Posted: 08:48:28 10/13/07 ()
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Bambay and others:
I don't believe that a President is obligated nor should he/she strive to achieve an ethnic balance in his/her cabinet. The fact is, I don't see how a President can avoid a cabinet that reflects the diversity of the nation. I can live with a cabinet that does not because that is the perogative of the President and, as has been pointed out by others, diversity in and of itself does not produce results.
Having said this however, there is something troubling about the now complete (I presume) Koroma cabinet. President Koroma had during the election campaign and in its aftermath made much of the concept of a "government of national unity." The rhetoric just doesn't seem to be matched by recent actions. Perhaps, most troubling for me in this regard is the answer President Koroma gave to a question regarding ethnic divisions in Sierra Leone during his recent BBC interview. As anyone who is being honest will attest, the recent election results manifested a deepening ethnic divide in the political landscape of Sierra Leone. Voters clearly voted on ethnic lines. A question on this issue was posed to the President by a listener, who wanted to know what he would do to bridge this gap. This, in my mind was a golden opportunity to seize a very crucial issue for this Government and our country going forward. However, I think the President erred-- saying essentially, there is no ethnic divide in the political arena; voters did not vote on ethnic lines, pointing out incorrectly (and I quote) that he and his party won made "substantial inroads into and won considerable votes in Kailahun, Pujehun and Bonthe". I don't want to be prickly on this, but I believe it is an important insight into where the President's head is-- on this vexing issue, I think it is a state of denial. The President went on to say that in winning such votes he had "improved" on his performance in 2002. This he said indicated "acceptance" (I guess of the APC in those regions, and presumably supported his contention that voting in the 2007 did not occur along ethnic lines).
In spefically answering what he would do to address the perceived ethnic divide, Koroma said this: we have ensured a smooth transition and is committed to forming (and I quote) an "all-inclusive goverment" , most notably in the "representation of most, if not all districts in the cabinet."
Well, I leave it to each person to decide whether the rhetoric matches reality.
Subject: TRANSITIONAL TEAM REPORT : A DISCLAIMER
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 17:49:08 10/11/07 ()
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TRANSITIONAL TEAM REPORT : A DISCLAIMER
State House wants it to be known that the published Transitional Team Report on this forum is not a finished document or final version of the TT REPORT . This is just a draft version that has not gone through the normal process of scrutiny . The final version will be made available to the public when it is ready.
UNFORTUNATELY, somebody surreptitiously leaked out this discarded version of the TRANSITIONAL TEAM REPORT to Leonenet .
Please ignore and await the final and authorized version.
DISCLAIMER AUTHORIZED BY :
The Technical Coordinating Committee of the Presidential Transition Team
State House
Freetown
Sierra Leone
Subject: Re: TRANSITIONAL TEAM REPORT : A DISCLAIMER
From: Transparency
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Date Posted: 18:05:30 10/11/07 ()
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Rev Kabs do you know how one can obtain details about the membership and credentials of the Presidential Transitional Team?
Subject: Balanced Cabinet
From: Independent Voice
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Date Posted: 17:43:06 10/11/07 ()
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In response to the editorial comment about having a balanced cabinet, it most be noted that the president is limited in his capacity to appoint talent from the diaspora specifically, due to a new clause within the constitution that requires ministerial appointments to go to registered voters only. This requirement puts a number of qualified individuals in the diaspora in a conundrum – as most are not registered to vote in Sierra Leone. I guess we could all appreciate why naming individuals for ministerial positions is taking a while and has not being an easy task for the president.
Subject: Leone Stars For Kabs Kanu
From: Mohammed Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:18:36 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: totti23@hotmail.com
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Rev,
I know you are a great soccer fan, i have a suggestion. I want to appeal to you and the Cocorioko team to have a sports page with emphasis on the Sierra Leone sports arena, especially with our national team the Leone Stars. We have a very crucial game next weekend for the preliminary round of the world cup 2010 elimination.We in the diaspora depends on this medium for news from back home, if a sports page with information on out team will be added, such move will be a great one.
There is a Sierra Leonean that reports for goal.com, Ibrahim Dabo, which i guess will be willing to assist with the reporting if contacted.
Thank you very much.
Subject: APC SUPPORTERS & KOROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: PMDC FANATIC
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Date Posted: 16:52:51 10/11/07 ()
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I left Salone in 1996. The main street running up to the cotton tree was Siaka Steven Street. Now it is Sani Abacha Street. It is a national disgrace to remove the name of the name of a Sierra Leonean in favor of a Nigerian Military Dictator. We have not run out of names or heroes.
Pa Koroma was also a strong advocate for the redemption of Yenga from Guinean troop occupation. I hope it was not a part payment for Kabbah's political restoration.
I'll take a defective Pa Siaka Stevens to a brutal dictator who executed Ken Sarawiwa. I still refer to it as Siaka Steven Street. Kailahun is my hometown and Siaka Stevens is a fellow Alumni of the Albert Academy.
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KOROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 20:07:08 10/11/07 ()
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I think it is Kissy Street that was renamed Sani Abacha Street, but I may be wrong.
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KOROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 01:44:59 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: mfofana2004@sbcglobal.net
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You are right, it was Kissy Street and not Siaka Steven Street. I know a business at 17 Sani Abacha Street and I was there this past March, 2007.
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KOROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: june savage
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Date Posted: 18:32:10 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: ujnal@hotmail.com
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This is how you people spread false news. Siaka Stevens Street still exists. Check your fact well.
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KOROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 17:35:55 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: saigobe@lanset.com
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PMDC FANATIC,
The new govt and every Sierra Leonean have to know what is important at this time. And Street name change is not important. Let us spend our time and resources now to create wealth for our people by expanding productivity of food, etc. Let us create jobs for our people. Converstions On Africa(COA)is planning major fundraising activities and events to raise one million dollars to provide grants for loan enterprises owned by Sierra Leone women. visit www.coaforum.com and please contact me so I can brief you on how you could be part of this wonderful drive to expand the businesses owned women in Sierrra Leone. Call me at 301-238-4396
If we collaborate it will happen so fast. WE can make Sierra Leone the financial and tourist capital of africa in the short-run.
Yaya Fanusie-COA
WWW.TOADFACE.COM
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: PMDC FANATIC
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Date Posted: 17:49:59 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
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I am a patriot and find it high on my social platter as much as you find raising funds high on your platter.
I think they can be done simultaneoulsy.
Don't use my request to promote your Non profit call. If you ARE not interested in it don't cry it down. It makes you single minded.
Again, I am appealing to APC supporters to advocate the change of Sani Abacha Street o Siaka Steven street and the redemption of Yenga.
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: PMDC FANATIC
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Date Posted: 17:49:11 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: epa@gmail.com
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I am a patriot and find it high on my social platter as much as you find raising funds high on your platter.
I think they can be done simultaneoulsy.
Don't use my request to promote your Non profit call. If you ARE not interested in it don't cry it down. It makes you single minded.
Again, I am appealing to APC supporters to advocate the change of Sani Abacha Street o Siaka Steven street and the redemption of Yenga.
Subject: From Standard Times News
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 15:52:19 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: mfofana2004@sbcglobal.net
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MEDIA & SOCIETY
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Mayor Of Freetown Writes...Reviewing That Kasho Wellington SLBS/TV Saga
Posted by Winstanley.R.Bankole. Johnson on Oct 11, 2007, 13:07
I have written a few incisive articles recently but unlike the pre-August 11 days, none has elicited the usual terse, unethical and most times uncalled-for reactions. Those authors are lurked somewhere still licking their wounds, and hoping (God forbid) for evidence of non-performance by the APC to pounce. So it is either that we now have a “King who knows not Joseph” or as we put it in other forum “time and circumstances has restored the genuine”
But that is not what democracy and good governance should be like. Exchanging frank but honest views without malice or recriminations is all part of a nation’s development process, and if it is happening elsewhere I see no reason why Sierra Leone with less than six million people should be any different.
Sierra Leoneans have remained divided for too long and most times for very petty reasons – like politics – when in fact very little difference exists in the agendas of the different political parties we claim to belong to. As I have often said, beyond our National Anthem and National Flag, nothing else unites us as a country. There is neither a battle cry, nor anything else that can stir up nationalistic fervour in the Sierra Leonean - as is common among for example, the Ghanaians.
It was clear from the outcome of the just concluded elections, that the voting pattern assumed tribal, ethnic or regional biases, which certainly does not hold good for our country. So we need to do a lot more to keep us together as a people with undivided destiny, by first doing away with our revengeful “tit-for-tat” culture.
As a matter of fact, I will make bold to recommend that President Bai Koroma should make visiting those areas in which our APC Party performed dismally a matter of Presidential priority, not only to win over potentials for future elections, but also to convince those whose minds had been manipulated to see the APC as a Northern-based party that indeed he is President of the entire Sierra Leone.
For my part, I will by this write-up be extending the olive branch to a man like J.J.Saffa the SLPP Secretary General, (whose face I honestly don’t know), by inviting him to a lunch presently, to show that with the elections long over, everyone is required onboard to take the development of this country forward. Opposition parties in parliament can ensure that through persistent but credible criticisms that will always keep the government on its toes because criticisms they say eliminates complacency.
It is only when we begin to see ourselves as one people with a common cause that we will become more ethical in our judgement of the predicament of others and without prejudice. Which brings me to the SLBS saga of a few days ago, heralding the totally unacceptable and unorthodox exit of the Director pro-tem, Mr. Kahso Wellington. At his upper 60s age, I am sure that was the least kind of ingratitude he ever expected.
In the glare of SLBS TV viewers and eyewitnesses – including his close family members and friends all watching helplessly in utter disbelief, a whole parastatal head - in the line of duty - was roundly molested by his own subordinates, with indictments been read out to him in a make-shit kangaroo court, after which he was bundled away by the Police who in fact were supposed to have offered him protection in the first place.
That sordid episode was to me like corporate governance assuming new and riskier dimensions. And everyone else appears to have seen the funny side of that development – except me of course and for obvious reasons as follows-:
Kasho Wellington, though Acting Head, has since his appointment years ago been directly supervised by a Transition management Team – of which Alhaji. I.B. Kargbo was a member, and all of whom are vicariously liable for his misdemeanours. And wasn’t it odd that Alhaji I.B.Kargbo was readily on hand to “calm” the workers down?
The SLBS is not the only Parastatal in the history of this country to have experienced industrial unrest. Anti-management demonstrations at the SIERRATEL, SALPOST and the Sierra National Airlines to name but a few are frequent and of far worse dimensions than that at the SLBS.
At SIERRATEL, pitched battles culminating in the malicious wounding of Police officers on duty (a serious offence for which continue to stand charged in the Court) were run between the management and staff for days on end. But the police were timely and permanently stationed within the precincts to ensure that Alpha Sesay carried out his duties unruffled and oblivious of the equally same staff appeal against persistent salary delays and generally poor working conditions. He is till there, albeit to the detriment of the country.
At SALPOST, not even the indictable outcomes of a Commission of Inquiry (and its ensuing “White Paper”) could ensure the exit of Kanji Daramy who despite abundant evidence of gross ineptitude has since received a double promotion – first as Presidential Spokesman and later as Chairman of the Telecommunications Commissions.
I am reliably informed that after that disgraceful episode and the ensuing adverse Press reports against him, Kasho Wellington was even prevented from legitimately transacting over his bona-fide Bank Account. Do you now see why well-meaning individuals shy away from political appointments?
I am aghast as to why the government should have supported such an openly discriminatory approach, by insisting that Kaso proceeds immediately on an indefinite leave, purely on the basis of staff uprising. Apart from their actions being out rightly lawless, no group of workers have the right to disgracefully and forcefully evict their institutional head from office. If it were that easy I suppose Parastatals would be changing their Managing Directors on a daily basis.
And I honestly think that Mr. Wellington should be recalled and allowed the right to also be thoroughly investigated prior to a decent but compulsory exit under the same amnesty granted key servants of former President Kabba. After all what is good for geese like Alpha Sesay and kanji Daramy should equally be good for gander “Wellington”. Do I hear someone whispering “double standards”?
Even as he reads this piece, Kaso Wellington himself will no doubt be gob smacked accept that it is coming from me, the man who when he was introduced to in early 2005 as the Mayor of Freetown recklessly retorted “Oh is this the chap?”. And he has shown contempt for me since. Come on Kaso even as boys, Princes Willie and Harry got more respect from their subjects!!
So let me now address the demerits of Kaso that warranted his disgraceful exit. In every sense of each word he was thoroughly a “system man” - arrogant, self-centered, conceited, egoistic, and virtually lacking in every corporate ethics engendering competence, which was why he couldn’t perceive the early warning signals heralding his “crash”.
He served his employers more than the country to his own detriment, and if ever he respected you it was purely on the whims of the government apparatchiks – Berewa or Tejan-Kabbah. Under his regime and on “orders from above”, the Freetown City Council received permanent news black-out, despite repeated appeals by my former Chief Administrator Miss. Sarah. Lewis and verbal promises from Dr. Septimus Kai-Kai for him to do so. That was why my 2006 Mayor’s Christmas message was done in the papers and via the ABC TV network.
He chose rather unwittingly to publicly malign those whom he piggy-backed into a prominence leading to his being awarded a covetous national insignia for “acting” as Managing Director of our national broadcasting house, which position he never trained for during his over 25 years absence from the country.
Like members of the Transition Management Team that supervised Kaso, the past government must equally accept full responsibility for failure to either have timeously arranged for the basic needs or strategic exit of staff, without disrupting “team spirit”. But again Kaso Wellington was not a Manager.
So what are the lessons here to be learnt? Simple! No matter how popular you appear to be, always remember that authority comes from God alone, and that it is only for a limited time. The people who brought you into prominence are merely instruments of God. So never betray your conscience by trying to please them.
On several occasions, Kaso Wellington closed the door on reality, only for him to see it coming back to him through the window, but still he ignored those signals. So by his unwarranted and disgraceful exit, he has finally come to realize that by resisting to become a shining example of corporate ethics, he has simply ended up becoming a horrible lesson to others.
But thankfully, Kaso Wellington has a fall back position. Not in politics, but through the straight and narrow as a repentant disciple of Jesus Christ, living henceforth by the Gospel.
They that hath ears…………let them hear!
Subject: APC VS CHARLES MARGAI
From: SANTOS MANGA
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Date Posted: 15:38:05 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
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A TOP APC BIG WIG TOLD ME THEY DO NOT TRUST CHARLES MARGAI. HE ADDED THAT CHARLES HAS WHAT HE LABELLED - "IT HAS TO BE ME AND NOBODY ELSE SYNDROME".
MY SOURCE ASKED TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS.
BROTHER Toegondoe Sagbah (MUS)WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THIS?
Subject: Re: APC VS CHARLES MARGAI
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 15:47:35 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Boy are you here to pull guys' legs or get them started? I believe nobody told you this; it is just something you have made up to create a scene.
Subject: Re: APC VS CHARLES MARGAI
From: UK5
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Date Posted: 15:59:28 10/11/07 ()
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Well I guess the guy is here to make an impression big time! Is he trying to drive a wedge between the formidable bondage of APC and Charles Margai? Well, can't give it a thought because its 'credible' rate is just insignificant for now. Future? Can't bet on a long term smooth relationship. Two parties are distinct by identity. Goals and objectives clearly similar at some point: Kick out the SLPP! Now, we'll have to wait and see the strength of the president's leadership. MARGAI WILL ONLY BE AS STRONG AS PRESIDENT KOROMA IS WEAK!
Subject: Re: APC VS CHARLES MARGAI
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 15:52:30 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
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THE MOST FEARFUL WORRIOR BAI BUREH, I GOT THIS INFO FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE CLOSE TO THE POWERS THAT BE.
BY THE WAY I USED TO ENJOY YOUR KRIO JOKES. BUT THE INFO ABOVE IS NO JOKE. LET'S GET THE PMDC GUYS TO TELL US MY SOURCE IS WRONG.
Subject: Mannah
From: Observer32
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Date Posted: 14:12:23 10/11/07 ()
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I just found out from the Global Project Realnews archives that the article Mannah is referring to as being ranked 12/85 or thereabout, is not a peer-reviewed article. Professionally, I think this is misleading. This is nothing personal against the man. He seems to be academically accomplished. However, in the context of a debate about economic writings one would have expected a reference to a more scholarly journal not the Awareness Times.
Subject: Re: Mannah
From: Kanforie Sorie Koroma
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Date Posted: 14:25:16 10/11/07 ()
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The guy is just ostentatious and vain. I don't know what that ranking is doing for him.It just shows how pettey he is.And to use Awreness Times as reference is even more bizarre. But did not Gbanabome of Patriotic Vanguard do a similar and even more ridiculous acknowledgement ? These guys are taking pettiness to new levels.
Subject: Re: Mannah
From: Idris
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Date Posted: 14:34:06 10/11/07 ()
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If Mannah is ostentatious and vain to quote you, then Moh'm Jalloh is because he too displays his achievements regularly in this forum. Those who know him will not deny this.
Subject: Re: Mannah
From: Abdul
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Date Posted: 16:27:35 10/11/07 ()
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You are missing an important distinction. Jalloh's achievements are a matter of public record because he was a public offical and he is now a recognized professional with public awards. Those who know him know that he is unassuming, but he does nor take nonsense from anyone.
Subject: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 12:47:41 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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I know that most SLPP feel I criticized the government too much during the past election, I did. But if you read all my articles on the websit provided below, you will find that:
1. The majority of my criticism was about the SLPP providing the basic aminities for the ordinary people.
2. Some more of my criticisms were levied against the undemocratic actions the SLPP utilized at their conventions which culminated in their electing the "wrong" leader.
3. The pervasive and blatant corruption that was abound as if instruments of government property was privately theirs.
Perhaps the most important of those criticisms (the ones about providing the basic amenities), would have superceded every other need for the SLPP to implement, had they CARED ENOUGH to do it...BUT THEY DIDN'T.
ELECTRICITY is, perhaps, the most important of those amenities requested because it affects everyone's life every minute of everyday. The SLPP never listened.
Ernest Koroma seemed to have heard the call. He is now showing a great deal of interest in fulfilling that need. He is, sort of, on tour inspecting and checking out the power stations around the country. His effort alone is a sign of hope. Some of us preached the choir of providing the
If the APC is able to provide the basic necessities for the country during their first term, do you think they will get the amount of criticism that was levied against the SLPP which virtually undermined their ability to stay in power?
I think that if they fulfil these basic needs, there will be little room for criticism. They might be formidable and poised to win another term.
His effort alone is a sign of hope. Some of us preached the choir of providing the basic necessities for the masses to the SLPP government all through its term and all they did was give it deaf ears and bring in a two-week long Moroccan ab(used) generators that lasted 2 weeks, if that long. Then all of a sudden, thieves stole the live wires of the poles.
I tell you what, if the APC is able to provide the basic necessities for the country, do you think they will get the amount of criticism like the one that help bring down the SLPP government?
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: UK5
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Date Posted: 15:46:08 10/11/07 ()
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If I should add a few lines to this piece, the areas of development that could score seriously eye-catching grade points for a ruling government in Sierra Leone are very easy to identify. Visit the markets, talk to the majority, attend one or two civil society gatherings .... people talk about them in the open. In other words, 'Landmark' achiements have all the potentials of making a party formidable. It simplifies the explantory ordeal to the majority of voters come elections.
If Pa Sheki was alive, he only needs to sight Congo Cross bridge, The Siaka Stevens Stadium, the Peninsular Road etc. and challenge the SLPP to draw up their list of landmark achievements. Talk of bringing peace, that was effectively swallowed in the first tenure. Want to use that again in the second coming? The people will undercut your logic with a slang: "After all. even the rebels were tired of fighting!" Peace was imminent. Can Pa Kabbah/SLPP remain insistent on seld-rewarding accorlades! The value will be lost in the process.
You see, the issue of complacency must have been the main factor responsible for the SLPP's battering loss. They miscalulated the LEVEL of awareness among the youth. THERE IS NO MORE DECEPTIVE LAST-MINUTE ELECTION CAMPAIGN THAT WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH TO GAIN VICTORY FOR A FAILED PARTY. So far, President Koroma is on the right track taking positive steps towards the right direction. His greatest test though remains to be seen on how he handles 'renegade soldiers' in his war against corruption - His predecessor failed miserably in this regard! One slight mistake could bring down the reputation he has taken months to build. Check out Yahya jammeh in The Gambia. He has resorted to the idea of rotating ministerial positions [sometimes he fires and reinstate] just to impose his authority as the man in control.
As a mere contributor, it would be better to highlight, in a seperate posting, my opinion on what I think the APC could do to remain in power for another 20 years.
For starters, the APC might want to include in their plans for the near future the reinstating of cafeteria facilites for university students. You will simply kill them off in gratitude! Check it out!
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 18:29:15 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
You are great Maaannn! Everything you said is like coming from my second head. Let me add to yours too. I referred to what you called "landmark achievements" as "monuments of progress. Take a look at my website, especially at the article where I warnes about not forgetting SLPP' Failings as they went to vote.
Again I am not saying these things to spite SLPP, it was my party. I am saying it to make those diehards start thinking "straight" once again, like the OLD SLPP before Kabba
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Shembu
To: All
Date Posted: 13:58:23 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
And if APC goes all the way to ensure basics like electricity and pipe borne water supply to be a constant thing in the people's lives, then they will live forever as their motto (or former motto)clearly states.
You know, it does not take much to take care of five million people given our abundant natural resources and external help available to us. All we need is a comitted leadership. This new APC administration is taking the right footing in that direction. May Allah guide the President & Co.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 14:47:18 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
This is all we have always wanted. Of course, it takes little to appease the Sierra Leonean. But my former SLPP brothers and sisters seemed to have missed that message.
Anyway the former APC motto was "NOW OR NEVER". So, either they please the people now, or else they will never again get the chance.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 21:24:06 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
What is the new MOTTO? Forward ever, Backward never?
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 00:18:13 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
It will befitting if it so happens. What would you rather, Backward Forever, Forward Never? That should actualy be the new SLPP motto. That is, the SLPP of New Comers who displaced the Old Timers.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:29:38 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
Message:
Correct Toegondoe,you have my support.Government and leadership is all about dedication,devotion,responsibility,accountability and above all serving the people.The slpp had no agenda for the nation.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 14:53:31 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
Indeed! May God bless that nation this time around. I was staunch SLPP, now staunch PMDC but my first interest is the nation. And I don't care which government takes away the "SHAME OF OUR NATION" and fixes it. I just want to make sure that when I leave the US and go "HOME", I am not going to "Backwardness".
The last time my wife and I were home for a 6 week vacation, she started getting sick in the 3rd week. I made us leave right away because I could not trust the medical facilities over there.
I tell you, my brother, I will admit that I have been ashamed of the backward seat our nation had been permanently relegated to since 1967.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 15:29:45 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
I could not agree with you more toe, Like you I parted company with the SLPP because I was convinced that the party had lost direction and with no serious plan to solve the country's problem. I visit Salone often and I am under enormous pressure overhear to provide all sorts of help including financial to our numerous relatives who cannot accessed basic amenities. With the new government in place, let us hope and pray that our people will see improvement in their lives. That was what we asked for.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 18:31:03 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
Say it again, my brother
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: BROTHER
To: All
Date Posted: 15:47:08 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: brother@aol.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
YOU STAND WITH YOUR PARTY AND TRY BY EVERY MEANS NECESSARY TO EFFECT CHANGE. SLPP SUPPORTERS SHOULD TAKE A LEAF FROM THE APC BOOK. WHEN APC FELL, ITS SUPPORTERS STAYED ONBOARD UNTIL THEY BROUGHT IT BACK TO POWER BY HOOK OR CROOK OR WITH THE HELP OF A FORMER ST. JOSEPH SECONDARY SCHOOL MAKENI PRICIPAL.
REMEMBER I DO NOT BELONG TO ANY POLITICAL PARTY.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 18:34:17 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
Your strategy is well understood. My own way was to make SLPP pay before they could understand. Because they had become too confident and too cocky. Believe me, my brother, if they would have been voted back in, they would have become more than arrogant, they would have bcome virtual dictators.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: law
To: All
Date Posted: 18:05:54 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: lawlawde80@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-71-233-101-152.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 71.233.101.152
Message:
FROM ALL THE FUNNY BUT INTERESTING POSTS RELATIVE TO THE TOPIC ABOVE, I RESPECT YOUR STANCE "BROTHER". IF Y'ALL WHO HAVE MADE COMMENTS ABOVE SLPP'S SHORT FALLS WHERE TRUE TRUE PATRIOTS OF THE PARTY, THEN YA SHOULD HAVE STAYED TO INFLUENCE A CHANCE WITHIN THE RANKS AND FILES OF THE PARTY. WITHIN THE UNITED STATES THAT WE ALL LIVE, YOU CAN PROVE ME RIGHT THAT NO MATTER HOW BAD A POLITICAL PARTY LEADER PERFORMS THE MEMBERS WILL ONLY CRITIZE BUT NOT RUN AWAY LIKE POLITICAL PROSTITUTES TO SEEK REFUGE OR RECOGNITION SOME WHERE ELSE. THIS PROSTITUTIONAL CONCEPT AND SELFISH ATTITUDE IS WHAT IS KILLING SIERRA LEONE POLITICS. WE DO RECOGNIZE THE PROBLEMS WITHIN SLPP AND ARE ON COURSE TO BRING A COMPLETE CHANGE TO ITS IMAGE. IF U SEE YOUR SELF AS A TRUE SOLDIER OF THE PARTY THEN COME JOIN THE BANDWAGON OTHERWISE JUST STAY IN YOUR LANE AND FIND SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT AT THIS APC FORUM PLEASE
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 15:38:39 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
The SLPP is intolerant to desent, they are master at marginalisation, they do not like their own kind or empower their support base. They like sycophants and flaterers. They attacked their own pedigrees. They did that in 1967 with Kai-Samba and they lost power. They did it with Charles Margai in 2007 and they lost. They are arrogant and lacks the ability to reconcile factions, but believe in elimination.
The APC was seriously divided but koroma ensured that he got all his most adamant opponents on board before he faced the electrorate.
Many of us left the party on sound logical reasons. We did not leave to join the party in government or the winning team like Dr Banya etc, so it is quite wrong to refer to us as political prostitute. I can assure you that the current crops of people who now parades as the SLPP will not win a national election in Sierra Leone. Many of these guys had formed political party of their own and abandoned it to hijacked the leadership of the SLPP when it became clear that their party would not win.
Kabba clearly had problem with historical names in the SLPP and he did everything to undermined them. But Margai showed that he is of substance. I would advise you to direct your anger at Kabba for the SLPP defeat. We did warned. Next time do not wait until your leader take you to the dust bin, you bin him first if he become an electoral liability. Lotta
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 18:48:44 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
My brother, you are talking about political parties that reason. The SLPP lost the capability to reason:
1. Why didn't they do the smallest things the people needed, such as what Koroma is not trying to go in less than a month?
2. Why did they allow ONE MAN (Kabba), to hijack all the parties' principles, aspirations, ideals and character?
3. Where were they when they allowed Kabba to impose an unpopular man like Berewa and an unpopular running mate like Momodu upon the party? Why didn't they protest or rejetc them outright?
4. WHERE WERE THE REST OF THE SLPP WHEN THEY SAW THEIR PARTY BEING HIJACKED BY 1 MAN AND YET DID NOTHING?
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT STAYING IN IT WOULD HAVE MADE THE DIFFERENCE WHEN NONE OF US WAS MORE POWERFUL THAN KABBA? NO!!!
HE CONTROLLED EVERYTHING INCLUDING BEREWA HIMSELF. AND THESE WERE THE TWO MOST POWERFUL MEN AT THE TOP OF THE PARTY.
WHAT DIFFERENECE WOULD EMPTY VESSELS LIKE US (SIMPLY TALKING IN THE MEDIA), HAVE MADE TO THEM IN THE SLPP?...N-O-T-H-I-N-G !!! brother, NOTHING! The whole SLPP was under the spell of Kabba, and he was not for the good of the party.
That's why some of us had to take another option to effect change. Otherwise that change would have never come as long as Kabba and his cronies controlled the party. Be real, brother! It's only now that they are even realizing that Kabba was no good for SLPP...AFTER THE FACT!
Subject: Dr.Curtis Thomas, we are missing you
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 12:19:14 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
Where are you ? Please touch base. We love you.
Subject: Re: Dr.Curtis Thomas, we are missing you
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 13:05:17 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
You need to beg me to comeback.
Subject: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 11:28:46 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ln1-66-86or981.gsu.edu at 131.96.89.195
Message:
I have noticed that a saber-swinging war is going on between some intellectual camps determined to prove their mastery of the Queen’s English. Unfortunately, Cocorioko is not the only theater of this Shakespearean battle of wits. I read an entire literature of attacks and counter-attacks on the SLPP forum between some literary gladiators and Brother John Mannah. The war on the SLPP was essentially fought to reveal the {grammatical} chink in John Mannah’s armor. Unfortunately for this man, he kept attacking the academic ability of other contributors just when his postings were begging for grammatical beautification. This brother alienated me after posting a message in which he derided Cocorioko as the safest place for imbeciles. Of course, that was his opinion, and he is entitled to the falsity therein.
Can we fight a slightly different war? How many Sierra Leoneans on this forum can speak more than three languages in our beloved republic? I am throwing down the gauntlet, and I want it to be picked up by a Sierra Leonean linguist. Let me reveal a secret about myself. I can FLUENTLY speak Temne, Fullah, Mende and Kissi. Let us bury the grammatical hatchet by literally fighting a war with Sierra Leonean tongues. Those who can speak Temne, Mende, Fullah and Kissi AT THE SAME TIME, are invited to this linguistic duel.
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 11:39:34 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Bra! Do you have KRIO as part of what you are asking for? Just a question since KRIO is spoken by over 70% of our people.
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: Gladiator
To: All
Date Posted: 11:58:16 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Hey Enviable, I can speak Krio (yes, KRIO, that is a language in Salone), Fula and Themene (notice, I don't say, Temne like the John Bull do).
I can speak some Mende (from my Bo School days), but unfotunately, not fluently (but I speak French flurntly) -- Mende mi a mua baye? LOL
So, waht do you want us to do to fight this salone language battle?
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 12:38:51 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.143
Message:
Oh my God, Enviable, you just exposed me as a linguistic fraud! Although I can do gymnastics in English, I just realize that I am an illiterate when it comes to our native languages. There really is no excuse. Apart from Temne and Krio, I can't speak a lick of the other languages. What is really unforgivable is that I was in Bo School for seven years and dated some very lovely Mende damsels. In fact my first girl friend, in Form One, is Mende. I know some of the sweet bedroom endearments and the words for " Let's eat!" That's something you need to know in every language to survive.
I guess I'm gonna try harder to learn some of these beautiful languages again. Thanks for the kick in the pants!
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 18:10:54 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Mammy Blessing, you've got the brains. You can learn and comprehend any language in this world. With determination, you can. Just take am diyeh diyeh. As they say in Temne, "Yor Ki-Tehgbeh." {Take am easy}.
Peace out, Bra
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: Sadame Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 14:38:11 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
This is very interesting. The last time I check, I saw all mende boys on this forum. it is now beginning to be infested by all Themne boys. Go to work i say and feed you people.
I can speak all the languages in Sierra Leone depending on what time of the day. I am a true Sierra Leonean. Watch out 1012.
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 13:11:38 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
I speak mende, temne and krio fluently. I also partially speak limba,fullah,and LOKOH. My Moyamba-Junction connection.
Subject: Sister Needs Help
From: Casca
To: All
Date Posted: 10:55:54 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 134.113.7.99
Message:
Dear Family & Friends,
On Sunday, October 21, 2007 I will be walking in the National Kidney Foundation’s annual Kidney Walk at the South Street Seaport in New York City, to raise awareness and funds to fight kidney disease and to increase the availability of all organs for transplantation.
While I have made an initial donation, I need everyone’s support to reach my goal of raising $3,000 to benefit the programs and services of the Foundation.
These donations make possible the treatment and care that is necessary to fight kidney disease to those who cannot afford it. Without the education, newsletters and mailings that the National Kidney Foundation implements, I would not have been diagnosed. I also would not receive the care that I needed without the help of the National Kidney Foundation.
There are two ways you can support my efforts to make a difference for everyone living with kidney disease:
• You can make a tax-deductible online donation in my personal homepage at My Personal Link: https://www.kintera.org/faf/donorReg/donorPledge.asp?ievent=224345&lis=1&kntae224345=75C4AF391C9F41FF9659220C2B5DA293&supId=180594218
• You can send a check made payable to:
National Kidney Foundation serving Greater New York
30 East 33rd Street
New York, New York 10016
* if sending a check, please write my name in the memo section!
• Join my walk team, Samura Family by going to www.kidneywalk.kinter.org and participate in the activities on Sunday, October 21, 2007.
With gratitude and best wishes,
Zainab Samura
Subject: Re: Sister Needs Help
From: Nar Sabi Talk
To: All
Date Posted: 13:18:15 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: static-76-160-64-185.dsl.cavtel.net at 76.160.64.185
Message:
Please clarify or verify your URL
www.kidneywalk.kinter.org
Thank you...
Subject: Why replace the Bank Governor
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 10:39:20 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
I may be insane, read but can't comprehend, Listen but can't hear, want to talk but my mouth is full of rice, so I have to ask this stupid question and that is, Why would the present government replace the Bank Governor if he has a clean record and is willing to cooperate with them?
Subject: Re: Why replace the Bank Governor
From: Do Me Ar Do You
To: All
Date Posted: 13:08:11 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-69-20.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.69.20
Message:
Mr.Insane,
Did Steve Swarray not have a clean record and was willing to participate when he was replaced by SLPP?
C'est la vie mon amie!
Do Me Ar Do You!
Subject: Re: Why replace the Bank Governor
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:13:16 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
THE BANK GOVERNOR IS THE MAN WHO SIGNS THE CHEQUES. SO PUT YOUR MAN THERE AND YOUR FAT CHEQUES ARE SIGNED, NO PROBLEM.
Subject: Re: Why replace the Bank Governor
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 12:41:47 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.143
Message:
Maybe, his record is not that clean, Mr. Insane.
Subject: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: Kanforie Sorie Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 08:48:31 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: ksk@aol.com
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
We just can't stop loving Cocorioko because this is the place where we let our burdens go. I wonder what life could have been for some of us without the Cocorioko Forum. This place is addictive.I come here more than 20 times a day. Interestingly, other forums have been set up but none is flourishing like this forum.The SLPP and AWARENESS Forums are dead. We also can't stop loving Cocorioko because it is simply the best. Say what you will, we don't have a newspaper yet of the standard of Cocorioko. You may not like what the paper publishes but you cannot help admitting : There is yet no newspaper like Cocorioko. The paper has defeated its latest rival THE NEW PEOPLE.
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: Mr. T
To: All
Date Posted: 09:49:49 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: FofanaDonodoni@aol.com
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
Message:
Most of us love Cocorioko. However, Awareness times Forum does not tolerate the attacks", "name callings", "put downs" profanity" that goes on the Cocorioko forum. If anybody goes with any of the above to Awareness forum, your fellow "forumites" will be the one to tell you that "this is not what we debate here." They will either ignore you to talk to yourself or tell you, this is not the right place for your topic. You even need a password to post anything on that forum. Some people don't like that. We like it. It means that you have to register first and you are assigned a password. That password allows you to post. That is good. If you are not hiding behind anything, why don't you like registration and password to the forum?
At Awarenesstimes for an example, someone might bring up a topic. We will all debate it and suggest solutions to the problem or issue facing the country. When we feel that we have had enough debate, we have a "forumite" that will look at all the good points, summarize it and post the summary for anybody to read. That is what we do. The next thing we are thinking of is to post or email our summaries to other media outlets in and out of the country. So Awareness time forum is alive. We have covered topic such as the trash problem in Freetown, Corruption, and Electricity problem. We came up with some solutions and the summaries are there. Check it out if you want.
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:55:46 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Why are u hiding here? Are u MR T on Awareness? Tell us ur name.
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: Minie
To: All
Date Posted: 09:55:57 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
No thank you. I will stay with the best forum -- Cocorioko.
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: AFANGAMA
To: All
Date Posted: 10:24:07 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: sokoroma@hotmail.com
Entered From: lgrt-122.dhcp.umass.edu at 128.119.230.122
Message:
Me too, NO! I don't like that stupid censorship. The Cocorioko forum is fun ! It's like eating the food you like. If you don't know, COCORIOKO IS THERAPEUTIC: IT SOOTHS THE SOUL; IT MAKES YOU LAUGH AND FORGET ABOUT MANY DISTURBING THINGS. The pseudonymes such as SUBANALIE, TALANGBA, ARIOYOGBO, etc are funny. You don't like fun and freedom ? Well, go to hell and kiss the fire!! We are going to Cocorioko forum !!
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 09:29:06 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.143
Message:
By the way, is the New People still publishing? I thought it has gone the way of the dinosaurs. I am still a fan of the trite wisdom: "You mess with the best, you die like the rest!"
Go Cocorioko! By the way I absolutely support the renaming of Abacha Street as Christiana Thorpe Avenue. I know some opposition supporters are gonna howl with resentment and anger, but fellas, you will appreciate this lady when you it is your turn to win a fair vote and the laws are enforced to protect your ballots.
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: MC Hammer
To: All
Date Posted: 11:03:00 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.144.3
Message:
It goes to show you have a mindset of an idiot. Even though I'm a Cocorioko fan, I still check out what's going on other forums. Your response shows that you are some kind of tribalist comfortable only in the Cocorioko box. There is a saying that 'liquids find their level'. May be this is your level and you are afraid to check other forums because the calibre and language of the participants is superior to yours.
Subject: Governor
From: Newsman
To: All
Date Posted: 08:38:37 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
The new Governor of Bank of Sierra Leone, will be the brilliant and astute Economist,-Sanpha Koroma.
Subject: Re: Governor
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 10:33:56 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
Is the tenure of the Central Bank governor tied to the presidential administration? One would think that this is one of the positions that should be independent of political affiliations.
Subject: Re: Governor
From: silent majority
To: All
Date Posted: 11:17:27 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 195.54.227.249
Message:
Mr KKW,
I think that you must be right about the bank Governors tenure. The same goes for other postions that should be free of political interference such as Anti corruption boss, Chief Justice and judges, NRA boss etc. These positions should not be (and i believe that they are in fact not) subject simply to the presidents pleasure.
If they are to be removed before the end of their tenure the government is bound to demonstrate that the reason for removal is lawful. This is based on the assumption that the government is committed to the rule of law that the government itself has sworn to uphold.
note: this might explain the reported intransigence of Prof Joko Smart.
Subject: Re: Governor
From: Bank
To: All
Date Posted: 09:02:40 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Sampha Koproma is neither an economist nor brilliant. Hif he becomes BSL governor he will be returning o the scene of his crime.
Subject: Re: Governor
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 09:32:01 10/11/07 ()
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Is Sampha Koroma the former boss of Commercial Bank?
Subject: Re: Governor
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 09:37:25 10/11/07 ()
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I thik sampha should stop forcing himself down our throats on this forum..
For the past 3 weeks.. every day we get a psot about how he is the best guy for the job at Sam Bangura building..
Spare Us Mr Koro..
You had your chance..