Subject: If it was the life of YOUR child in danger!
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 16:12:58 10/16/07 ()
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I read with a heavy heart the plight of a young mother and her sick son and it brought tears to my eyes, i hope it does to you too.
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1226&cntnt01returnid=15
If you missed it.. look again..
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1226&cntnt01returnid=15
The pang of helplessness, hopelessness hits me.. I can almost see the mother taking the child out for a wash.. the stares, the sneers...
Africa been what it is, I can almost hear it..
Witch, Korkor, satan.. Sweah...
When at most the only thing that is ostracizing this poor lady and her son in her community is a swelling brain which can easily be relieved by a shunt or modern western medicine and care.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocephalus
What can we do..?
How can we help..?
Creating awareness, pushing the media, prodding the business community the international and diplomatic community in salone?
Its not all about our beaches and kolonko's and diamonds..
Can we find a way to help..?
5 dollars. Top up, less than 20 minutes talk.. its gone.. This boy could use 5 dollars.
10 dollars. One round of Heineken at paddys.. gone.. end up pan piss.. en liver damage..
50 dollars. A night out with a soba tanni at Atlantic or Alex’s and you are not even sure she will give you some..
Can we find a way to help..
Please.. please please...
Use your kids Christmas toys money.. Pikin get enough already and even Christ will be happy..
Ramadan just don...If you did not pull sara... there could not be a better time and cause..
I am pledging a 100 dollars to pikin business to get this rolling...
If anyone knows how to get it to pikin business or this mother.. let me know at rarayboy@hotmail.com
Thanks for reading.
A few Heineken can save a life, and its not only yours.
Subject: SLPP Publicity Secretary Admits Corruption
From: YUK
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Date Posted: 13:13:54 10/16/07 ()
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Sierra Leone: SLPP Publicity Secretary Admits Corruption
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Concord Times (Freetown)
16 October 2007
Posted to the web 16 October 2007
Mohammed Vandi
Freetown
Publicity Secretary of the Sierra Leone Peoples Party (SLPP), Kailahun district, Friday admitted that institutionalised corruption was rampant in the past SLPP government.
Vandi Moijueh who is also a Councillor in the Kailahum District Council told journalists at the Kenema Police Station that the international community was not in support of the defeated SLPP because the latter was siphoning donor funds meant for poverty reduction.
"I am calling on the All Peoples Congress (APC) government and the law enforcement agencies to investigate and bring to book all corrupt officials who contributed to the sufferings of the people of Sierra Leone," Moijueh said.
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On his own part, Councillor Moijueh said he is free of any corrupt dealings. "I am a strong SLPP Councillor and I was awarded the contract to rehabilitate the road leading to Kailahun district. I am corrupt-free because I implemented the contract given to me as required," he said.
Moijueh expressed his readiness to face the Anti-Corruption Commission to prove his case and maintained that he will forever be an SLPP stalwart.
"I will never leave the SLPP for any other political party," he said.
Subject: Re: SLPP Publicity Secretary Admits Corruption
From: O'thaim
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Date Posted: 15:34:43 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
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Sounds patriotic, at least from a distance. But ...... come to think of it..... I doubt very much if this Vandi guy could have taken such a bold declaration had the SLPP won the election. Looking at it critically, isn't it a kind of 'goody' trap? Once the investigation gets underway, these same folks might use it as an excuse to launch another rebel movement!
WAN...WAN...ANG WOOTH ANG TEP ENG-CAMPAIGN! KA-KAY MOYENG....AN-YEEKI. ANT-DAYR TE-TEP! GBENG GBENG NGA NUNG FINOOOUNG. ANG LOM ANG FOYEH LANEH-AY! KE TEK KENG! LONTHA!
Subject: Professionals and Concerned Citizens
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 09:19:08 10/16/07 ()
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http://standardtimespress.net/cgi-bin/artman/publish/article_2191.shtml
Professionals and Concerned Citizens Should Join In Fighting Corruption
Posted by Dylan Sogie-Thomas of London United Kingdom on Oct 15, 2007, 17:01
Professionals and concerned citizens play a critical role in fighting against corruption. I am concerned about corruption in the public sector as it undermines democracy and the rule of law, leads to violation of human rights, allows organized crime and other threats to human security to flourish. I am trying to provide hard facts on major corruption in government and effort to motivate people to fight against it.
My focus group at the moment will be on the Transitional Team, Law enforcement personnel, Auditors and the Media.
Transitional Team
The Transitional Team is made up of professionals from all works of life. I am happy with the progress made so far in assessing government ministries and in discovering massive embezzlement or corrupt practices by government officials. I am only disappointed that their report will not be disclosed to the public .The Transitional team should find out about the following before submitting their final report.
-find out the signatories to every corrupt government institutions and should verify authorization for the withdrawal of funds.
-find out who the legal advisers attached to that corrupt department and try to find out if he/she advised these officials about the implications of embezzlement. If he/she advised them and they refused to obey his advised the Team should enquire why that individual continue to serve in that capacity. ‘Maybe he was enjoying kickbacks’’
-find out who the auditors were and the finance directors for that department or government projects. The Team need to ascertain when these corrupt activities started and what kind of audit report was given. Auditors and professional accountant should not be a party to fraud. If the audit report given was unqualified even though there was massive embezzlement it should cast doubt as to the competence of that auditor.
-The Team should identify the common abuse conducted in these ministries example bribery, kickbacks, patronage and nepotism.
-any government official that is ineffective or corrupt should be removed from their position. It would be a disadvantage to keep directors with failed policies.
-upon completion of the Transitional team report the public will expect government to seize and freeze suspects assets and accounts. Corrupt officials should be removed from duties and charged to court. Prison sentence should be imposed and banning order preventing such individuals from public positions. These individuals should also be reported to the Professional body that they belong or were they are members .example Bar Association, ICASL, ACCA etc.
Law Enforcement
Judges, lawyers, police including those responsible for investigation prosecution, punishment and assessment of crime should send out a clear message that society does not tolerate corruption.
-arrest and prosecute perpetrators
-provide assistance to other professionals in fulfilling their mandate to investigate
-advocate for policies and programs that facilitate prosecution and make criminal justice system more accessible.
-encourage law enforcement training programs to cover areas where corruption could occur.
Lawyers should also be convicted on money laundering in relation to sale of counterfeit goods or property. They should be held personally liable as this will motivate them to protect their integrity and cover their backs. Lawyers in the past have been involved in many corrupt activities ‘’sale of counterfeit goods and turning blind eye to it’’. Lawyers are aware that counterfeit goods/property were being openly sold they didn’t care as long as they were taking money from their client.
Bar Association should advise its members on all matters relating to corruption or money laundering including guidance to lawyers about their professional and legal duties and disciplinary actions should be taken when members breach such ethics.
Auditors and Professional Accountant should be able to protect and prevent intentional behavior and actions that undermines the will of the people, waste of public resources and activities that undermine accountability and transparency. Auditors must have a zero tolerance on corruption.
-identify supplier fraud- a supplier offering a purchasing or procurement officer a personal incentive , such as money or a car , land to sign a purchase contract with them over that of competitors .Government contracts should be transparent and suppliers should be chosen based on value for money.
-directors submitting falsified payroll or timesheets , creating fictitious staff members and diverting the wages or salaries into bank accounts they have access to should be eliminated.
Auditors failing to perform their duties should be reported to the relevant professional body such as ICASL, ACCA, ICAEW etc so that disciplinary actions can be taken.
Media and Concerned Citizens
The media can shape public perception about corruption, familiarize the public with available resources, educate policy makers about the problem and the need for effective services and policy. The media should encourage the public to come forward by reporting anyone suspected in corrupt practice ‘preventive method should be used to fight corruption’’. It would serve as a deterrent by warning perpetrators of the consequences of their actions.
It is the media responsibility for giving the people correct information .They should request for government information and advocate for freedom of the press. Transparency and accountability of government officials should be their main concern. The media should have access to public records and documents in which the ‘’the business of the people’’ is stored in some tangible form.
-convey message to perpetrators and would be perpetrators that abuse of public funds will not be tolerated and that they will be held accountable.
Concerned citizens can play a fundamental role. They can help spread the word about how corruption affects the country, advocate for needed policy and reform. Also report abuse when they suspect it. Citizens should also advocate for needed services and policies in their community in other to vote for a political party in the future.
Subject: Re: Professionals and Concerned Citizens
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 14:59:47 10/16/07 ()
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You have just spoken for many of us Sierra Leoneans if not all!!!
Thank you very much.
Subject: Re: Professionals and Concerned Citizens
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 13:57:37 10/16/07 ()
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A quiet encouraging and thrilling piece of work. My brother, this is a very good piece of writing I wish this could be implemented. If it is, then that would smack cruption good bye and say hello to full fledge development.
Thanks bro. God will bless you.
Subject: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 09:10:41 10/16/07 ()
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Brother John Leigh, the hints you dropped on this forum about the planned reconstruction of the SLPP did catch my attention. Political misfortunes come and go, and in their stead, those chastened by experience do emerge with stronger leadership qualities. Without necessarily knowing you in person, the unflagging style that marked your days at our diplomatic mission in the United States, came close to vouching for your character. If the announced bid to resuscitate the SLPP is as genuine as your steadfastness, then you can enlist the support of this writer. Once the old "contaminants" have been purged within its veins, thinkers with a nationalist vision can infuse the SLPP with a sense of direction to retake Sierra Leone.
The SLPP needs to slough off its unproductive skin, and yesterday's mistakes must never be forgotten. As a matter of fact, they should be brought to the fore, so that they can constantly remind the party's stewards that an abandonment of integrity can take the SLPP, and Sierra Leone, to rack and ruin. By bribing his way through a coterie of selfish friends, Tejan Kabbah's leadership of the party disappointed some of us long before his lackluster style could throw Sierra Leone and the SLPP into retrogression. A party that allows a few selfish individuals to commandeer the seat of leadership through bribery has failed before it could even test its mettle in power.
Some of us had to leave, confident in the belief that reformation was an impossibility as long as pirates controlled the party's rudder.
Now that bad blood is {apparently} on its way out of the party's arteries, the SLPP can be steered toward its nationalist goals. In the struggle to retake Sierra Leone from the APC, I am willing, and ready, to join popular efforts in making the SLPP a national party with roots stretching from Kabala to Kailahun. For the sake of the nationalist desires that brought the party into existence, the SLPP must shine anew with the same flame that replaced British colonial rule.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Brother of Sengbe
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Date Posted: 12:31:20 10/16/07 ()
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Stay where you are at!! We do not need judases who hand power to the enemy on a silver platter just because they are disgruntled about intra-political activities that they did not have the fortitude to successfully oppose.
We in the SLPP do not need back-stabbers anymore in our party.
I say this to ALL PMDCians: STAY AWAY FROM THE SLPP!!! Stay within your ranks in the pmdc.
We very well know that we shall overcome in the future. We are regrouping amongst ourselves - the tough and trustworthy loyalists.
Our Party will NEVER AGAIN be impregnated with opportunists and disloyal cowards.
And where would the akartas be without the help of JUDAS? Would they be governing today? HELL NO!!
Please stay in the niche y'alls have carved for yourselves in marriage to the akartas. We will be just fine without your hypocrisy and cowardice.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 15:58:24 10/16/07 ()
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Sengbe, The "Judases" and "disloyal cowards" are those who sold the Nationalist SLPP to theft and misrule without the scantiest regard for Sierra Leone or the espoused goals of the party. I left because I love Sierra Leone enough to distance myself from a leadership that was clearly going to self-destruct.
If conceding defeat to the opponent is one of your gripes against me, be rest assured that in the interest of Sierra Leone and NATIONAL UNITY, I will be the first SLPP member to accept defeat after an electoral meltdown. If the SLPP has no guts for that, then I may as well form my own party, serve Sierra Leone in another capacity, or simply graduate and use my academic credentials to make money in Western Ivory Towers. I have NOT changed one bit. We must either bring the party to face reality, or accept being permanent losers. Shame on you for being so unrealistic! Political opponents will surely love average thinkers like you, Sengbe.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Sabanoh
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Date Posted: 15:37:32 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
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The party does not belong to you. So you cannot tell PMDC members who were once SLPP not to come back. All you have to do is come to the convention and vote who want to take over the party. John Leigh would not be the best choice right now because he has been a member of Kabba's crooked regime from the beginning to the end. The man did not even have the guts to seperate himself from Kabba or steer Kabba to do right. He is one of people(SLPP) who have large investments in Nigeria. Lonta
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 14:56:45 10/16/07 ()
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Where did the SLPP go wrong?
Perhaps the toothless chimpanzee fight against corruption & the Makeni ConBention?
http://allafrica.com/stories/200710160621.html
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 14:08:46 10/16/07 ()
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Do you think you have a legitimate right to ban someone from serving their country?
I think if the man have what it takes to be a leader in the SLPP, there's nothing you can do to stop him.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: nico
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Date Posted: 14:54:34 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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The guy is not an SLPP, those who spoke their minds about the misdirection of the party are the real genuine supporters. Those who kept quiet in the face of injustices and corruptions against the state caused the defeat of the party. They are sycophants and bootlickers who should not be trusted in the SLPP. As far as I am concerned, I make no apology for criticising the kabba regime, i think for the sake of democracy and progress it was necessary for the SLPP to be defeated. This will cause them to look into how they got it wrong and make sure they don't take the country for granted next time. Brother Sengbe you did not help the party when you knew its failings would cost them the election. You should not be talking as if you own the SLPP, people like you are repellent in the SLPP.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: SLPP Teacher
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Date Posted: 11:10:03 10/16/07 ()
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Bra Enviable, welcome back, son. The most important thing I have noticed about you is that you are not an opportunist. When the SLPP was in power and giving jobs and money to praise singers, you bitterly opposed the party for alleged corruption. Now you are coming back when the party is OUT of power as opposed to being IN power. Some one with your brilliance could have chosen to sing the praises of the new APC for attention. You have the intellectaul means to do that, but again you chose not to. You are definitely NOT an opportunist.
With your ability to communicate in many parts of Sierra Leone, the party needs your intelligence, and all the skills you bring along. Fullah in Kabala to Temne in Makeini, you can do it.
Welcome home, my son.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Cool Running
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Date Posted: 14:27:24 10/16/07 ()
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Well now my pretty, that's the most laudable appraise I've read in a decade! Nothing short of eloquence, particularly when the character in question deserves it all. We'll keep listening ...... and reading ..... and wholeheartedly wish him goodluck. After all, the guys consistency of style makes him unique. If guided with modesty and tolerance, I think he can cruise all the way. Otherwise, people might feel intimidated by his towering intellegence. Guy can't be apologetic for such a god-given talent, but then he simply can't ignore what others feel about him. That's what makes our awareness of society wholesome! Stay cool man!
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Brima kamara
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Date Posted: 10:05:18 10/16/07 ()
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My brothers,
If the SLPP is indeed ready to restructure or revive itself, then that should be a move in the right direction. However I have some advices for them.
1. They have to really admit to themselves that they failed in their promise to deliver to the people of Sierra Leone. This is not to say that I am castigating them but from a scr1ptural point of view which dictates that only if you realise that you have done wrong will you to be able to rectify your faults. When they lost the last elections, instead of blaming their failure on themselves they were busy crying foul. I was one person who was not happy with that.
2. They should try to weed out all the opportunists who jumped on their bandwagon because they were the patrty in power. Most of those people have no love for the party or what the party stands for. They were only interested in enriching themselves to the detriment of the party forgetting that it is the party that suffers in the end
3. Getting rid of all those old recycled and corrupt politicians. Most of these guys have outlived their usefulness. You should try to get younger people with better ideas. You were relying too much on ideas of guys of the sixties forgotting that those guys belong to a bygone age.
4. Using their MPs to give the APC a run for their money in parliament. The SLPP has never been able to do well in opposition. They should try to change that this time around so that the APC will not take us for the same ride that they the SLPP did. If they can successfully challenge the APC in parliament then people will know that they are here for a change. We dont want those archaic way of campaigning by constantly refering to things that happened during the sixties and seventies when we are dealing with issues that are taking place now.
5. Try to recruit more people and try to get an ideological base. This is the same problem with all the parties in this country. In fact there is no way you can differentiate between the different political parties in this country as they have no ideological base like other countries. e.g In britain you have Labour with their communist style ideas, conservatives with protention of the british way of life and so on and so forth. That it one way to prevent politicians cross carpeting from one party to the other.
6. Giving the party a more national outlook. The present crop of politicians they have in the party have made people to think that it is a mende-man party. No wonder the rest of the country ganged up against them which led to their failure in the just concluded elections. The idea of the founding fathers of the partry was that it should have a national outlook which is far from the case today.
Some of us are really interested to ensure that the SLPP remains a credible party because we dont have a single party that we support. Our aim is to ensure that democracy prevails in our beloved fatherland and that no one (repeat) no one ever take us to the days of military intervention, dictatorship and bad governance. Please SLPP do this for us if even you dont want to do it for yourselves. The country need you at this time as a deterence to the APC behaving the way they did during the seventies and eighties. Lonta.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: FODAY MANSARAY
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Date Posted: 13:22:18 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
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I will have to agree for once.Ambassador in my book is a diehard SLPP and most definately a nationlist.
Lets go Ambassador.
Subject: I love my clitoris
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 08:52:17 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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I have up until now resisted chiming in on the FMG debate. Since there hasn't been much other interesting discussion on the forum, I decided to give my own take on the topic. My arguement is purely sexual. I am pro-clitoris because it is a sexual organ that offers pleasure to women when left intact. I believe sex is a gift from God for married couples. As such, His desire is that we derive pleasure from sex. I believe His intent is for us to derive ultimate pleasure in our married relationships. In reading the posts from this forum, there are those who either don't know or don't want to acknowledge the sensitivity of the clitoris and it's importance in sexual stimulation. Since you can have an orgasim just from stimulating the clitoris, it's importance can not be minimized. I don't oppose the practice of FGM because I think it's barbaric, I don't like it because women deserve to experience all of the sexual pleasures their bodies were designed to enjoy. I have included a link about the clitoris that gives a detailed explanation about the clitoris in all its glory.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 11:57:15 10/16/07 ()
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Erica, you have disappointed me with your conservative spin on the clitoris. What d'ya mean by "I am pro-clitoris because it is a sexual organ that offers pleasure to women when left intact. I believe sex is a gift from God for married couples"?
Titi nor make ar laff! You, I and the entire sexual world knows that unmarried people are also entitled to the joys and yelps of sex and we all celebrate La Clitora! How Ba You Wan Greedy We?
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 16:17:34 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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First of all, based on my own beliefs (which are biblical) I don't believe sex is an entitlement for unmarried people. With that said, I have experienced sex outside of marriage and I would say to any girl or woman contemplating doing the same to wait until marriage. The act of sex alone is not the same for men and women. I know very few women who derive pleasure from sex just for the sake of having it. True sexual pleasure for women comes from the intimate relationship we experience with our husbands. It's about the love, security, acceptance, and comfort we feel when you are in our mens' arms. If you read Lady J's post about the other ways to achieve sexual pleasure, a man who you are only casually involved with is not going to put that much time and energy into satisfying you. Your husband who loves and cares for you and genuinely wants lovemaking to be mutually satisfying will find out how to make things pleasurable for you both. Even to have the level of comfort needed to address the issues Lady J raised would require a very commited relationship. This is just my own opinion.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Lady J
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Date Posted: 14:01:19 10/16/07 ()
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Erica,
Thanks for a wonderful piece. As we continue the process of eradicating this ancient tradition, your above piece will someday become a selling point on why the clitoris should be left alone. Thanks a bunch. ….. (Transaction Completed).
I dedicate the rest of my response to those who had no say in the process of losing their clitoris.
“Many of the initiatees do not have a say in the process and are initiated without consent. All I am saying is that there should be some sort of INFORMED CONSENT”. (M. Alieu Iscandari Esq) Thanks brother ...
Alieu, until we get to that particular point of our journey, education is the key, just like Londoner responded to Erica’s piece ….….
We have too many initiatees who have given up on sexual pleasure just because their clitoris was taken away ….
We have to teach these young women how to make do without half of their external genitalia, and not blame their boyfriends/husbands for leaving them just because they have no clit …… (The primary genitalia or external genitalia: in males the penis and scrotum, in females the clitoris and vulva.)
Until we accomplish total eradication of this practice, let’s make sure we utilize our erogenous zones to the fullest, while we fight to protect those behind us ……
The other, hidden sex organs are referred to as the secondary genitalia or internal genitalia. (A more ambiguously defined term is erogenous zone, subjectively, any portion of the body that when stimulated produces erotic sensation.)
The vagina is a muscular, highly expandable, tubular cavity leading from the vestibule to the uterus. The vagina is the structure penetrated during vaginal intercourse, and during vaginal intercourse, contact with this structure provides sexual pleasure in some women.
The Bartholin’s glands are two small, round structures, one on either side of the vaginal opening. These glands secrete a mucus-like fluid during sexual arousal, providing vaginal lubrication.
The Grafenberg spot, or G-spot, is a small area (about 1 to 2 cm) on the front wall of the vagina (closest to the bladder and urethra), about halfway between the pelvic bone and the cervix, that is especially sensitive to sexual stimulation in some women and may be the source of a small amount of fluid ejaculated at orgasm.
The cervix (the lower part of the uterus that protrudes into the vaginal canal) During vaginal intercourse, contact with this structure may provide sexual pleasure in some women.
There are more ways to arouse pleasure without touching each other.... CREATIVITY is the key.
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 15:51:39 10/16/07 ()
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Lady J,
Where were you when I started this debate? By the way nice piece. I wish to add one thing regarding the G-spot. If properly stimulated, the G-spot produces the highest, most sensational feeling of organism a woman ever gets. It does not happen every time with women that have their clits intact and I believe the G-spot is completely dead in those of us that are victims of FGM. By the way for the guys, there is an equivalent area called the A-spot (around the prostate), if accurately activated, produces the most intense and enjoyable organism ever.
It is amazing that Alieu dismissed my initial take on this issue claiming that my choice of words dragged the discussion into the gutter. Now after turning around 180 degrees, he is involved full fledge in an FGM debate. I wonder if this is a case of flip-flopping. If it is, be aware that flip-flopping is not conducive to a political career (or a politician wannabe).
Thanks to all involved in pushiong this issue of FGM in the fore front of debates on this forum. I will be taking my case to Freetown this December. I hope to use some of these debate exchanges as references for making my case. Those of you who will be in town, listen up whilst you are there. I surely will publicise the debate via TV and radio in addition to my presentation to government officials and medical practitioners. I will fully fund my endeavor with my personal money.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: NAR U SABI
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Date Posted: 14:50:49 10/16/07 ()
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Lady J, You say there are more ways to arouse pleasure without touching each other ....CREATIVITY is the key
HOW can this be done?
NAR U SABI
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 15:08:26 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
NAR U SABI,
U sef U fen plaba oh .... Dee place go wahm for U ...
Have you ever allowed a woman to look deep into your eyes .... while you fantasize on what you want to do to her ..... and in that moment .... she lets her lips part slowly, and a twinkle appears in that beautiful eyes of hers .... as she lifts her slender fingers pretending to reach for your ...... ..
Ohhhh .... Bettttteeeehhhh ....
Enjoy and have a nice
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: LJS
To: All
Date Posted: 15:54:35 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-49-205-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.49.205.105
Message:
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Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Youthman
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:06 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: pablo.augustus@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 216.70.131.210
Message:
Erica,
can you please point me in the direction of previous discussions about FGM on this forum especially topics pertaining to the practice in Sierra leone? Thanks for your help and the wonderful point you pointed out.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 14:16:17 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
There is just a little bit of the discussion remaining from 10/14/07 on Alieu:FGM. Most of the recent talk has not been achived yet. I can't remember the month it all got started but if you scroll through the achives of late Sept/early October you'll find some discussion there too. The discussion all got started because one sister wrote on the forum that she believed her low sex drive was because she had been circumcised. Responses have run the gamut and when I thought the topic was dead, somehow it came back to life. It's been a really good discussion.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 09:35:22 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
Erica, thanks for a frank and informative contribution. Education! Education! Education is the watchword! You have my deepest respect!
Subject: TAKING A LOOK AT THE QUEEN
From: Talk True
To: All
Date Posted: 07:26:48 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: Truetalk@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 202.70.85.3
Message:
Over the past few days, there has been a heated debate over some of our african practices that is ingrained in our culture most especially female circumcision. Some forumites have been lambasting the practice because according to some of them it is wrong and (quoting Wole Soyinka)a savage custom, barbaric and archaic or you name it. From my own point of view, most of them are swayed by western propaganda that normally portrays everything african as bad. I therefore want us to look at one od the oldest and most respected customs today in the world i.e the monarchy as practiced in England. Though I know that they it is quite different from the debate that has been raging on, yet it is a custom and traditional practice of one of the so-called bastions of democracy, Great Britain.
Sierra Leoneans living in England will not dare utter any opposition to that practice though it is one of the most undemocratic practice that is being perpetrated today in this day and age. If you go back to history, you will see the amount of blood spilled and lives that were taken to ensure that the present royal family maintain their present position. In fact the ancestor of the present royal family were local brigands and despots who killed as many people as possible to maintain their holld over their fellow men. Though at present they will want us to believe that she is just a ceremonial Head of State yet any student of history will telll you that it is a lie. Nothing in England becomes law without the signature of the queen. She is the De Juror and De Facto head of England. She nominates the Prime Minister, who as we all know is not elected by the British people but the leader of the party with the highest majority in Parliament. Everybody in England swears allegiance to her and not to the Prime Minister including the Armed Forces. She is treated as if she is a minor God. She belongs to the upper class that control 80% of the wealth of the british people. Her present wealth runs into billion of pounds. She has so many privileges and pays very little tax on her astronomical wealth. She is head and shoulders in class above the average british guy in the streets though her wealth was built on the sweat of these same British paople. This practice is very, very (repeat) very undemocratic, yet you have these same people telling us about democracy and whatever they say we swallow it whole heartedly.
When can we as africans realise that the white man is just here to make us look uncivilised and uncultured. Why do we have to think that the western world have the supreme right to determine what is good for us and what isn't good for us. I believe that every country, race or group has things that distinguishes it from the rest of the world. The sooner we learn to hold these things dear to ourselves as the british revere their queen, the better for us.
Subject: Re: TAKING A LOOK AT THE QUEEN
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 08:31:55 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.142
Message:
Talk True,
I heard that there is a royal Bondo in Britain. Is it true? So, is the queen a Shayma? If she is, I will surely endorse the practice in our country. Can you please find out? Pretty please?
Subject: Re: TAKING A LOOK AT THE QUEEN
From: lef joke
To: All
Date Posted: 08:42:30 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: npj-proxy.wlink.com.np at 202.79.54.50
Message:
Nor worry but dat. Na senior Gborka
Subject: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 06:46:43 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: dyn003334-hs01.accord-ne.org at 156.111.18.236
Message:
We come from Allah and to Him is our return.
May Allah forgive her mistakes and keep us on the right path.
Subject: Re: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: velma taylor
To: All
Date Posted: 12:38:24 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: vellosticss@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
Alimamy,
where u dae?
Subject: Re: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 15:23:57 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 134.74.170.97
Message:
Ar Dae Fouta
Subject: Re: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 08:18:18 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.183
Message:
May the Almighty Allah have mercy on her soul. She is a great loss to the Muslim Umma generally and a great loss indeed to the Islamic society of Sierra Leone. May her numerous Pilgimages to Meccah be, in the Day of Judgement, a salvaging testimony of her faith and help her gain the reward of Al-Janna.
Subject: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 03:30:47 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 251-66-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.66.251
Message:
The wolves are at it again to malign, kill and destroy Miss Alice Kamara who has said no to bribery and the issuance of Sierra Leonean passport to racketeeers.
Because Alice Kamara is not compromising with the crooks, they have organised a sit down strike to force the honest woman relinquish her post. The new APC must not allow these diabolical plot to get rid of the immigration boss!
We know that our passport has been give to forein=gners and crooks at the immigration office will issue it to any K=Jack or Jill.
We say no to the evil plan to get rid of Miss Kamara. Like Christian Thorpe, she is among the few Sierra Leoneans with respect and honesty.
Miss Kamara we will defend your honesty and we will be looking what the new APC will do to retain you in that important position.
Subject: Re: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:39:03 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.243.134.136
Message:
I have very little knowledge of this lady, but if she's being the boss all this while then I'm in support of you 100%.
The reason for my support is that, we have a very poor record on immigration fraud but recently things are improving. One clear evidence is that, Nigerians who obtained our passports during the war and used them to sought asylum in Britain were refused after their passports expired. I know a few who were deported because they were caught.
I discovered recently that our immigration controls have being tight. So this could only be as a result of good leadership, so yes my opinion is Alice Kamara should stay.
Subject: Re: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 08:26:15 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.142
Message:
Do you have a vested interest in keeping Alice Kamara in that position? Did she get her job through political patronage? Have you in any way benefitted from Miss Kamara's position? Answer these questions before we take up her case.
Subject: Re: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 15:37:05 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: mannahs@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: 251-66-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.66.251
Message:
Do you have a vested interest in keeping Alice Kamara in that position?
Ans: Absolutely! As a patriotic Sierra Leonean who does not belong to any groups, I find Miss Kamara's penchannt for honesty unparrellled as compare to her compatriots.
Did she get her job through political patronage?
That question is for those in the corridor of power.
Have you in any way benefitted from Miss Kamara's position?
My desire to achieve greater accomplishment will seek to falter, if I live in telling tale. I have known or met with Miss Kammara. I know the menmtality of our folks, when they do not have the grapes, they say its sour.
I hope my anwsers will tighten your mental facuilty to salute those who deserve honour. If Kabbah allowed corruption to plague Sierra Leone, he did appoint credible and honest Sierra Leoneans before he bowed power. I have been a strong critic of Kabbah, but I doff my hat to him for creating credible institutions to oush Sierra Leone forward.
Answer these questions before we take up her case.
Subject: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Madsan
To: All
Date Posted: 03:17:59 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: med-hopeclinic@optonline.net
Entered From: ool-4355b1b5.dyn.optonline.net at 67.85.177.181
Message:
My deepest sympathy to all the Rahman,Adams and Carew family on the death of a great woman. May her soul rest in peace. Ameen.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Hawa Mansaray
To: All
Date Posted: 05:14:14 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: talk2keita@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 194.19.96.20
Message:
Is an other blow to the nation. A stronge and engertic woman that other women can learn from has gone.I say to the family to have courage especailly to Isha. Gone but not frogotten .
From a friend.
MAY HER SOUL REST IN PERFECT PEACE.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 06:39:13 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
Our sympathies at Cocorioko to all members of the family. May her soul rest in peace.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Liko
To: All
Date Posted: 06:46:30 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: f298781.ga.unc.edu at 152.4.31.217
Message:
Indeed, she was a great woman. I knew the family personally and one of his sons was my personal friend. We were in the same class at Albert Academy. May her sould rest in perfect peace.
Subject: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Salone Blondy
To: All
Date Posted: 22:09:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: abc1122@gmail.com
Entered From: at 70.229.141.151
Message:
I am tired of Sierra Leoneans in this forum writing a litany of policies and advice columns for President Koroma. What a poor, fragile nation like Sierra Leone needs is a powerful, intelligent and visionary leader like the great Mustafa Kemal Ataturk of Turkey.
Wait, before all you internet revolutionaries get riled up and write (I mean type) your cassava leaf infused comments, give me a minute to explain the need for our own great "Ataturk."
A great leader should not be known for his reconciliatory speeches and appeasing gestures to opponents and detractors, no, a great leader will only be acknowledge and appreciated for taking decisive actions for the benefits of his nation; even if these actions are unpopular with half the population. Ataturk did not gain heroic statue and his pictures on the wall in every Turkish household by being a "soft", gentle business man; He is honored because of his vision and subsequent reforms that have moved Turkey (formerly the Ottoman Empire) from one of the least advance of nations, to a now powerful nation that the U.S. (Bush Administration) is currently begging to appease (for the Armenian Genocide Vote).
Ataturk had a vision to improve Turkey from a Muslim state to a Western style nation. He reformed the educational system from a religious base system to model European system. He also changed the style of Turkish dressing for men and women, and he granted equality for men and women (a revolutionary idea at that time, that is still considered revolutionary in the Muslim world today). These reforms were not always popular, but Ataturk articulated his vision to the people, and the people believe in him.
Sierra Leone is too wealthy, and its people are too intelligent to continue to be humiliated in every ranking of world development. The nation needs a leader who has the vision (the plan shall follow later) to lead the nation in attaining a modern and prideful Sierra Leone. We need a leader that is willing to take risks, (why not, the country is already on the bottom) be decisive, and strong enough not to be swayed by the interests of any political party, Ngo’s, or International Organizations. Sierra Leone needs its own Ataturk. Who will it be?
Subject: Re: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 08:55:39 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.183
Message:
It's just not feasible in our times. Firstly, the politics of intervention is becoming an outright permissible concept for the whole of Africa. The AU is working towards that. Secondly, nobody in his right mind would wish for another round of blood spilling in Sierra Leone. Those who lost their loved ones know exactly what I'm talking about. Thirdly, there are no guarantees that the eventual outcome would be just as Ataturk's case. People like Charles Taylor had unlimited ambitions to conquer the whole of West Africa while Gaddafi was backing him. Thing is, he failed in the end. Fourthly, our modern age just couldn't stand for such people. The whole world might be silent for a while, but they just can't stand idly by while people are being butchered. The vibrant media of today will help to hit the world's conscience into action.
There could be more reasons to support my disagreement. But I guess those four would surfice.
Subject: Re: Where is our Great Leader?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 03:49:00 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
Saloneboy: According to your statement above, I will mark former president kabba 0 out of 10. I mean it.
Subject: Re: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 22:56:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-178-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.178.188
Message:
Ataturk that genocidal maniac? You must be outta your plassasdamned mind! Ataturk engineered some cosmetic reforms in Turkey and spun those modest changes into a fulsome PR campaign with him in the starring role of Omnimodernizer and ..hehehe..Founder of Turkey. He had such a formidable personality cult that six decades after his death, they still have soldiers goose-stepping outside his mausoleum. The greatest atrocity he inflicted however is to undermine democracy in Turkey by giving effective control of the country to the military. This is one of the reasons why Turkey is still the backward boondocks of Europe.
If you want to give a strongman example, how about Lee Kuan Yew of Slngapore who transformed that city state into one of the largest and most vibrant economies in the world today? Infact Singapore just got delivery of the first A380 today, the world's largest and most luxurious plane.
Subject: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Salone Blondy
To: All
Date Posted: 22:08:14 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: abc1122@gmail.com
Entered From: at 70.229.141.151
Message:
leader like the great Mustafa Kemal Ataturk of Turkey.
Wait, before all you internet revolutionaries get riled up and write (I mean type) your cassava leaf infused I am tired of Sierra Leoneans in this forum writing a litany of policies and advice columns for President Koroma. What a poor, fragile nation like Sierra Leone needs is a powerful, intelligent and visionary comments, give me a minute to explain the need for our own great "Ataturk."
A great leader should not be known for his reconciliatory speeches and appeasing gestures to opponents and detractors, no, a great leader will only be acknowledge and appreciated for taking decisive actions for the benefits of his nation; even if these actions are unpopular with half the population. Ataturk did not gain heroic statue and his pictures on the wall in every Turkish household by being a "soft", gentle business man; He is honored because of his vision and subsequent reforms that have moved Turkey (formerly the Ottoman Empire) from one of the least advance of nations, to a now powerful nation that the U.S. (Bush Administration) is currently begging to appease (for the Armenian Genocide Vote).
Ataturk had a vision to improve Turkey from a Muslim state to a Western style nation. He reformed the educational system from a religious base system to model European system. He also changed the style of Turkish dressing for men and women, and he granted equality for men and women (a revolutionary idea at that time, that is still considered revolutionary in the Muslim world today). These reforms were not always popular, but Ataturk articulated his vision to the people, and the people believe in him.
Sierra Leone is too wealthy, and its people are too intelligent to continue to be humiliated in every ranking of world development. The nation needs a leader who has the vision (the plan shall follow later) to lead the nation in attaining a modern and prideful Sierra Leone. We need a leader that is willing to take risks, (why not, the country is already on the bottom) be decisive, and strong enough not to be swayed by the interests of any political party, Ngo’s, or International Organizations. Sierra Leone needs its own Ataturk. Who will it be?
Subject: Best deals for your holiday travel
From: Bhaskar
To: All
Date Posted: 21:50:58 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: bhaskarsmail@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe00195b4bf214-cm001a667071fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com at 99.227.232.7
Message:
Hey guys,
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Subject: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 21:28:11 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
Entered From: at 208.115.235.86
Message:
For the benefit of those who don't know my friend and brother, Palo
Conteh, he is the finest Military Police . Kawuta Dumbuya was the first
military Police that became a lawyer .Palo is the second.He is a great
military strategist and a lawyer. He is very unassuming and dedicated
to the promotion of the efforts to rebuild our military to its glorious
past. .
His appointment by his Excellency is the well -awaited boost
our men and women in uniform needed to join our nation building
efforts.
Please join me in sending congratulations to Retired Major Palo Conteh,
wishing him all the best in his new appointment.
Say Amen.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 05:52:48 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
We need people like Foday Mansaray to be appointed as Bank Governor. What do you think?
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: Manso Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 04:02:19 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
A point of correction. Lt. Col.(Rtd) Kawuta Dumbuya (RTP) was the first military officer to become a lawyer.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: NAR U SABI
To: All
Date Posted: 07:21:07 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-57-248.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.57.248
Message:
NAR U SABI. NOR TO SO THE CEO SAY?
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:30:01 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
I think Foday Mansaray could be a fine Bank Governor. What about Alex Mansaray to represent us at the U.N.? and Bubu Kamara, though he was SLPP to be appointed as chairman of Lotto.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: NAR U SABI
To: All
Date Posted: 08:50:04 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-57-248.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.57.248
Message:
THE MANSARAY`S are they related, just curious.
NAR U SABI
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:53:29 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
No. They are not related. They are just friends. They are part of Cocorioko. Bubu Kamara is going back to his base,APC. He regretted contesting under the banner of the APC in Koya. I hope Foday and Alex will accept him.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: awoko
To: All
Date Posted: 10:44:56 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: malik @ yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-72-66-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.26.251
Message:
WE WON BUBU LEH E COMOT BEHIN SLPP. E NOR DO AM, BUT DE MAN DEA ALL SIE. E GO CAM BAK EN DO E SEN KUPOR BIZZNESS.
Subject: BUBU KAMARA welcome home!
From: KOYA CHIEFDOM
To: All
Date Posted: 11:43:56 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 192.64.157.56
Message:
Bubu did not leave APC, APC left Bubu for the son of SAT Koroma. Abu Koroma is another opportunist cabdriver that APC wrongly and illegitimately imposed on the people of Koya. Bubu was the right candidate for APC, but he did not stand a chance because of the influence of SAT KOROMA. The people of Koya hate/detest SAT and his family. The father ruined our chiefdom, now the son is back to continue the damage. THE KOYA SEAT WILL BE HOTLY CONTESTED IN THE NEXT ELECTION.
WELCOME HOME, BROTHER BUBU, YOU WERE APC WHEN APC WAS NOT FASHIONABLE.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:56:43 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
My mistake. Bubu Kamara contested under the banner of the SLPP
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 11:52:50 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 192.64.157.56
Message:
John, no need to apologize, you are on the right track. Bubu went to SLPP because APC decided to give the symbol to ABU, the son of the ruthless SAT KOROMA the terrorize the koya people. BUBU deserves any appointment by the APC government.
Subject: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 21:26:18 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
Entered From: at 208.115.235.86
Message:
For the benefit of those who don't know my friend and brother, Palo
Conteh, he is the finest Military Police . Kawuta Dumbuya was the first
military Police that became a lawyer .Palo is the second.He is a great
military strategist and a lawyer. He is very unassuming and dedicated
to the promotion of the efforts to rebuild our military to its glorious
past. .
His appointment by his Excellency is the well -awaited boost
our men and women in uniform needed to join our nation building
efforts.
Please join me in sending congratulation to Retired Major Palo wishing
him all the best in his new appointment.
Say Amen.
Subject: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 18:35:02 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-178-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.178.188
Message:
I have a whole flock of relatives who are Bondo initiates and I deeply respect the culture. I have also dated lots of FGM-ed gals in my life and I have dated just as many intact women too. With all due respect to my wonderful Bondorinas here and back home, I want to categorically declare that the uncircumcised sisters are better and more passionate lovers, who flow just so effortlessly with the groove. It just takes too much work with the FGMs. The uncut sisters here and in Sierra Leone simply rock! They're simply the best!
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 21:15:43 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Hahahaha..............
You better go take some lessons in S.x education. You fellas always forget that women are not built like men. For us men, it is "My eyes See" "I WANT" " I DO IT" "I AM SATISFIED" Next?........
Many ways to make a lady indulge in satisfaction which doesn't even require to go near FG.
You like the cheap option, and not mastery of the game.
Brothels are full with ready and willing anytime of the day.
It takes a whole process to put a woman in the right mood. Make your women fantasize throughout the whole day and you'll be king.
Don't come and talk about Circumcised/Not-Circumcised.
Put your personal effort / mastery to make the woman you love get satisfied.
Blah blah blah..............
Have you seen many sexual therapists back home? Well wake up Bro. There are so...... many in the west. If they're so O.K., why is it that they have so many Sex therapists?
Blah blah blah..................
Come to think about it, you're actually demeaning a whole populace.
What is the population of SL?
What are the largest tribes in SL?
What tribes practice FemExcision (as one forumite wrote)?
Go back to your roots, try and trace why the practice started and for what reason.
Different cultures, different attitudes of women towards S**.
Even in SL. Women in Freetown are more open towards encounters than in the provinces. In the villages, you sleep with anyone, everyone knows the next day. So the women are bound to guard their reputation.
In Freetown no one cares, thats the way of life.
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 22:35:00 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-178-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.178.188
Message:
Babbob, are U seriously trying to teach me about foreplay? That's a hoot, boy. Most guys I have talked to honestly believe that the Nonbondoristas are easier to paddle with, than the Bondorinas. Conduct an informal survey and see for yourself! It has nothing to do with the tribe or culture either. Even within the same tribe, the non-FGMers friskily parade around town with smiling hubbys/mates while the FGMers and their mates usually have forlorn, frustrated expressions.
You wrote: "Women in Freetown are more open towards encounters than in the provinces. In the villages, you sleep with anyone, everyone knows the next day. So the women are bound to guard their reputation.
In Freetown no one cares, thats the way of life."
I am sure the ladies in Freetown will thank U for trashing their reputation. Are U sure those villages and provinces that you visited were in Salone? You could have mistaken Liberia for Salone. My personal experience is that villager or city roller, they all frolic when you turn off the light.
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 16:10:01 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Mr. Somtin Butu,
You are right and the other guy must be a virgin or an okobo that is just plainly telling a lie. You know back home in Salone, all okobo men always talk about woman biznez so as to fool the public that they can perform, when they can't?
Hey, quick request for you, why not push the poll thing to the guys of this forum. It is a no brainer, if you have the clit you get aroused and you fuck with passion. You can not force things when the feeling is not there. Guys will agree with me that it is better you have less work to do to arouse your girl than having to spend a whole night just to try and make akonkless bitch feel honey. And when she does feel honey, you better use some "chiness rub" to last at least an hour or else she would never climaxed (or cum). I am telling you out of personal experience. Those folks who followed my earlier debate will tell you.
Guys keep this debate alive, it is sure better than the name calling and the pull him down crap that our community is infected with. Check me out in Freetown this December, and join my campaign. It will be your opportunity to finally meet me......and maybe next time you will recognize me in the streets in the Bronx.
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Looking in
To: All
Date Posted: 20:02:28 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: nc-76-0-177-82.dhcp.embarqhsd.net at 76.0.177.82
Message:
As my teen son would say: "TMI" (too much information).
Subject: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:22:17 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
.. the things that matter the most
I think the FGM issues has been delved into and blown out of proportion on this forum – ironically, by the same gender group that introduced the practice into the traditional society years ago. Is there any other serious issue that is devastating our communities e.g. AIDS/ HIV that the chauvinist of this forum could opine. What about the AIDS/ HIV epidemic and the way it is RAVAGING OUR COMMUNITIES IN SILENCE? Isn’t AIDS more important than FGM – Oh I see! It is not as controversial as FGM, and folks like the controversial issues to make a name for themselves.
To all the FGM zealots on this forum who think FGM is more of a threat to our society than anything else, please get a life and let’s change the topic and focus on what matters the most - not what creates the most noise or controversy.
People are dying from AIDS/HIV, so maybe focusing on how we get more aid, grants, etc. to help educate the masses on prevention, testing and living with the disease would be rewarding
Peace!
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 17:01:00 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Fullah Musu, Jarrah Mah.
Tana-Alla Torn?
In Futa Jalloh, your response would be "Jan Toon." This literally means "It's all peaceful."
You are absolutely right about putting the Bondo behind us. As a matter of fact, Kailahun District tradition forbids me, or any brother on this forum, from discussing the Bondo with unrestrained liberalism. Be that as it may, I often fret beneath my skin when an African tradition is attacked by Africans using the colonial master's logic. If the "civilized" West is so interested in saving Africa from backwardness, what explanation do Washington and London have for casting out chains of economic colonization to Africa through the IMF? Striving for responsible governance and poverty reduction should be much more topical among us than futile exercises in Bondo-bashing. Am I just as uncivilized for being a Poro initiate? May be so, in the eyes of His Imperial Majesty, Lord Lugard.
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 19:38:11 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-8-111-25.mia.bellsouth.net at 65.8.111.25
Message:
Lovey Dovey
I hope you are not assuming the above article is mine.
Hey.... Come closer .... Yes closer ... Whiiiiissshhhh.
You are dying to hear from Sheba not so? .... One of these days she might just show up, but not to discuss the above topic...
AristoCat might not be far behind either, just to pull Long John Silver's leg ...
So far, it's all about the lady my dear
One another note .... I got it, will respond tomorrow.
Thanks for checking up on your sister. You are too kind.
Okay... Now go wash your eyes, and take a look at the name again ...... Whiiiisssssshhh ..... Ooooops
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 00:34:51 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Lady J, I mistook SHABBA for Sheba. See How I miss Africa Online?
I can only hope Shabba will disregard the earlier posting.
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:53 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: us_proxy_indy.xh1.lilly.com at 40.0.40.10
Message:
Enviable – you are fine, your response was not offensive and besides, because you always show great common sense in your postings, I was not offended by your comments.
Regards!
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: PULL WHO'S LEG?
To: All
Date Posted: 19:58:20 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-49-205-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.49.205.105
Message:
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Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 20:32:05 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-8-111-25.mia.bellsouth.net at 65.8.111.25
Message:
AristoCat will get you.... U wait...
Meoowwww
Subject: TRANSITION TEAM REPORT IS NOT WORTH MUCH
From: Lumumba
To: All
Date Posted: 15:24:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: Lumumba@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
the transition team report seems to have little or no structure; does not give us snapshots of the status quo and lacks depth on the issues. A competent team as the one assembled should avoid the temptations of providing us with those 200 page long UN style documents.
President Koroma wants a snap shot, not a lecture.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION TEAM REPORT IS NOT WORTH MUCH
From: Expert
To: All
Date Posted: 05:23:52 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
Yes exactly so, and I wonder, who will even bother to read it.It reads more like a country-information sheet than report.I am sure, it has been copied from UN reports
Subject: Re: TRANSITION TEAM REPORT IS NOT WORTH MUCH
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 15:41:36 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.87.143.3
Message:
Please give us a link so we can judge ....
Subject: FGM: For Alieu
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 14:53:13 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
Alieu,
This Bondo issue has been an issue in Africa well before the Human right protocols were developed. I don't know whether you are aware of this; but let me say that in Sierra Leone, we have tribes that are not practicing it at all. There are tribes that do practice it. The tribes that practice it are in majority. The women even laugh at each other, when those who practice it refer to those are not practicing it as “Gborokas” The story goes deeper than that. So those who are not practicing it are embarrassed sometimes when they are called "GBOROKAS"
As a matter of fact, those tribes that are not practicing it at all are in the fore front against FGM. You said that there have been studies conducted to show problems related to childbirth because of FGM? I don't believe you at all. And don't tell me anything about the reports or statements made to the Immigration, by some Asylum seekers, who have said that they ran away to seek asylum in the West because part of their body was cut off. Then the proof is that a medical doctor examined them and yes indeed, that was the case. Then they have evidence to back up their case. If any longitudinal studies have been done, show us the publications. That is why I said, to proof or disproof the assertions made, select experimental groups and control groups among different tribes in different countries and follow them for 20 years or so. Then interview them as they grow older and becoming parents about their childbirth, sex experiences etc. They will share their experiences under normal conditions and not when looking for asylum or something else.
Alieu, you are making people to go too deep into things that are not necessary.
Have done a study that compared childbirth complications cases related to FGM and non FGM women? Sow us the study. When we want something in the Western world, coming from a third world country, we say all kinds of lies, just to get asylum or grants as an NGO with the notion of going back to fight against it or educate people. We do that to ourselves.
Subject: Re: FGM: For Alieu
From: SOWEI
To: All
Date Posted: 18:13:07 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.20
Message:
Why bother the learned Alieu with questions about Bilakorow bizness? In fact reseach has proven that the incidence of HIV/AIDS is less common among the circumcised. In east, central and southern africa circumcision is now encouraged, especially among men.
Can't you fathom that there is a direct correlation between circumcision and hygiene and between hygiene and HIV/AIDS. Forget about the terminology 'FGM'. In african lexicon we call the practice 'circumcision'. FGM is a new coinage. My english teacher at secondary told me many years back that the right term was 'excision'
The issues around the subject may be too passionate to elaborate and for that matter I'll stop here. Period.
Subject: A Rotten Brick in the Wall? No, Not Me!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:12:45 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Hey Guys, thank you all for being busy debating FGM. It is my pleasure to respond to one of you that wondered if I am a rotten brick in the wall or else that individual wanted to get my take on the debate. Well, I am alive and willing to participate in the debate. If fact, I have been reading all the exchanges but have no time to write responses or provide my own opinion. Reason, I have a lot of mid term papers to grade and other job commitments including a brief official travel. I am back and grades are in the system. Hopefully, I will have something to say soon.
I will be in Freetown on or around December 16, I will avail myself to all the major spots (or joints) hoping to see folks from the diaspora and probably seek some help pushing my agenda through to parliament and other higher places of government.
Eid Mubarak (belated) to my muslim brothers and sisters the world over.
Got to go teach now!
Subject: Re: A Rotten Brick in the Wall? No, Not Me!
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 18:20:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: smtpgateway.azdes.gov at 207.108.136.243
Message:
Mbalu,
Thanks for your response. I was wondering why you have not responded on a topic you started. That was why I tried to draw your attention. I am looking forward to response on the suggestion that a bill should be passed in parliament forcing FGM should only be performed by qualified doctors instead of banning it.
NOTE: When I refer to doctors I am not talking of Dr. Syvia Blyden. She is more of a journalist than a medical doctor.
Subject: Re: A Rotten Brick in the Wall? No, Not Me!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 11:59:38 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Political,
Thanks. I will start my responses and writing my opinions soon. On the FGM bill, I will definitely playing my lobbing role over the x-mas break down in Freetown.
Yes, I agree Sylvia is more of a newswoman (not a journalist) and businesswoman than a doctor. She is an interesting personality, to say the least.
Subject: concorioko is a lying skyamp - Awareness Times Editor.
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:53:12 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Nah joke...
Unu all too serious..
But what if it was true?
Did kabs fabricate a story?
Or did sylvia retract?
Or is this one of those preboxing hype kind of thing...? Where everyone is talking trash to hike the circulation numbers...?
Is there nothing better to report..?
What did Ernest eat for lunch..? Where ...? Nah Sia Cook..? Or nah want dem tanni..?
What did he wear..? Did he sleep at home..? Different bed..? Same room..?
How many relatives from binkolo now tap nah the compound.. ?
These are what we want to know.. (I meant if nothing betteh nor dey for report but).
Not which color draws sylvia wears, thongs of briefs..or if she even wears any..
Leave the poor gyal alone...we dont care...
Subject: CHEERS FOR BRA ENVIABLE
From: J.J BLOOD
To: All
Date Posted: 13:16:53 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cs307bimac019.gsu.edu at 131.96.237.28
Message:
Out of curiosity, I need to meet Envaible in person. Enviable can email me
at Freedomluvstruth@yahoo.com.
Each time Enviable converses on this forum, I get something from him
even when I disagree. From yesterday about Dr. Olloh to female genital
circumcision to cabinet posts, Enviable sounds enviable even when I do
not agree with him. I need to talk to this terrific brother.
Freedomluvstruth@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CHEERS FOR BRA ENVIABLE
From: WATERMELON
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:56 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: watermelon@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
JJ Blood we need your comments on Ambassador Leighs comments below.
"As you might suspect, SLPP was hijacked by powerful newcomers into the party and by their cronies (mostly crooks from the OLD APC)from genuine party members". Jonathan Leigh.
SO NAR UNA POIL THE TORGBOI Eh!!!
Subject: Re: CHEERS FOR BRA ENVIABLE
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:40:43 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
I second that..
Though i do not want to sound like you, almost in love with the man..
I do have greate admiration for the fella..
Subject: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 13:09:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.142
Message:
Now that SLPP partisans are threatening to beat up ex-president Kabba and scourge Pa Berewa with soaked kobokos, many potential aspirants for the top position are running scared. The SLPP gbogbo are in a particularly foul mood following the devastating defeat in the elections.
I understand that hamburger-gobbling diasporans who, after quaffing a coupla six packs of Bud, imagine themselves as leadership material, have suddenly become yellow about trying to become the big enchilada of the SLPP. They are scared of being manhandled by a mob of angry SLPPers. One SLPP honcho in Washington, DC was very clear about his change of heart. "I want to be leader, but I don't want to be whipped. Do you see the Kobokos they have stashed in HQ waiting to thrash Pa Kabba and Berewa?", my friend said. Even John Mannah the financial economist has decided to economise the pain of the whip and decline a run for the job of head honcho of the SLPP.
I am appealing to all my SLPP comrades in the Diaspora to please show some toughness and run for the leadership of the party.
ALIEU SESAY, CANDID ONE, KAMARA, ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA UNU YERRI EH? WETIN NAR SMALL KOBOKO BA? KANDA WARM, KANDA COLE.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:50:28 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
That position is meant for Charles Margai. He did not accept any position in the APC because he cannot call himself a true APC. He just helped the APC to defeat his old enemies that has been tormenting and preventing him from his rightful place. Charles is coming back to his base and would run against Ernest in 2012. My prediction, Charles will be prez in 2012. Lonta.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:01 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.87.143.3
Message:
The SLPP old guard should retire gracefully and look for a young aspiring 'turk' to take things forward.
The whirl of activity since EBK became president (out and about hands-on leadership) shows why many democracies are opting for younger leaders.
Examples: Clinton and Bush in the US, Putin in France, Blair in the UK (and Cameron now Opposition leader), Sarkozy in France, Kabila in Congo etc.
We have to get rid of the "Pa knows best" mentality and give the younger generation a chance. After all, it is THEIR future that is at stake.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Lawrence Billgreyhood.
To: All
Date Posted: 21:12:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: caintdef.sbc.com at 144.160.130.16
Message:
"Examples: Clinton and Bush in the US, Putin in France, Blair in the UK (and Cameron now Opposition leader), Sarkozy in France, Kabila in Congo etc. "
Putin in France? That's "Cute" Bra! Somtin Butu. Much love Bro.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP! - Correction
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 16:01:49 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.87.143.3
Message:
Sorry .. read as "Putin in Russia" (not France).
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Step Foward Youth
To: All
Date Posted: 16:00:56 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-69-20.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.69.20
Message:
Yes Sir! I agree wih you.Considering that the majority of Sierra Leonean voters are between the ages of 18 and 40 years old why would they need sixty and seventy year old grannies and grandpas to lead them when they can better serve themselves?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:39:51 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Mr. Somtin Butu:
Your information that no one is interested in leading the SLPP is not correct. Here in the USA, a number of SLPP people, including myself, are working to clean-up the party and domocratically elect genuine chapters across the country as well as the party's Federal Executives.
Inside SL, a number of people have come forward to indicate their interest in seeking the leadership position as well as membership in the party's NEC that needs to be elected in the near future.
As you might suspect, SLPP was hijacked by powerful newcomers into the party and by their cronies (mostly crooks from the OLD APC)from genuine party members.
I am one of those working with those who are seeking to take SLPP back to its truely nationalistic roots. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 16:39:47 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-219-81-190.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net at 69.219.81.190
Message:
"mostly crooks from the OLD APC"
JL, I take offence to the above phrase, if anything these crooks were borrowed from the SLPP sinced its inception thus, the reason for the swift return.
You can be the best driver in the country, but from any other seat other than the driver's seat your talents will not manifest.
The above statement describes you: A man that have done plenty, and still can, but in the wrong seat of the vehicle.
Are you going to bid for the leadership?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 14:43:32 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
"As you might suspect, SLPP was hijacked by powerful newcomers into the party and by their cronies (mostly crooks from the OLD APC)from genuine party members."
Therefore, from the above statement Earnest koroma's cabinet is very strategic.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Kukujumuku
To: All
Date Posted: 14:19:20 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-148-52-112.range86-148.btcentralplus.com at 86.148.52.112
Message:
Bra Leigh, why dont you come out to declare your interest to lead the party as you are one the executive members of that party. you have all the qualities to be the leader of the party. be man enough to declare for the leadership and fight for the position. good example is president Koroma. from day one he wanted to be the leader of the apc and he fought tooth and nail for the position. today he has virtually reaped the benefit. i respect people like that.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:32:29 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Kukujumuku:
I am not an executive council member of the SLPP or any other party. Meanwhile, please note that I will make whatever decision is appropriate, if any, at the appropriate time only. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Kukujumuku
To: All
Date Posted: 15:22:23 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-148-52-112.range86-148.btcentralplus.com at 86.148.52.112
Message:
i awaits your decision as time is not on our side. Bra leigh, sierra leone needs you and you can not stay in the US and at the same time be leader of our party. i personally have great respect for you and i don't think their is anyone out there more qualified to lead our party than yourself. this is the most appropriate time for you to move in and fight for the leadership. it is not going to be easy but if you are aspiring to be the future president of our country, which i believe you are, this is the right time.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Frued
To: All
Date Posted: 15:14:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
I have not been following what is being discussed with any considerable depth. However, John Leigh would make,
would have made a good candidate for this job. Like him
or hate him, this is the reality.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Fact
To: All
Date Posted: 15:31:09 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
True, John Leigh will make a good SLPP leader. He is not tribalistic although he sometimes says outrageous things about some people.He also has friends and contacts all over the country and seems to love his country and is not afraid to speak his mind. I wonder however, whether he will fit into the SLPP mould, with people like JJ Blood, Benjamin, Karimu and all the other nasties. Will they give him a chance?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Gongoli
To: All
Date Posted: 16:11:15 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: gonos@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-66-127-21.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.66.127.21
Message:
John Leigh for SLPP leadership? If that's
the case you better close the party down and start a new one. This man is an opportunist who should not darken the doors of our political scene anymore. Any party in Sierra Leone needs a young and dynamic leadership and John Leigh has definitely passed his sell-by date.
He also cannot be trusted. I was in a meeting for the Albert Academy Old Boys Association where he stated that over a million dollars was collected in America to send to the school. This was not only a figment of his imagination, but thinking about it now, it was a pre election ploy that horribly went wrong.
What the SLPP or any political party needs now is not people who might want to recoup any losses they have incurred in the past. Most people are slating the APC for putting people without experience in ministerial positions. But the people they have chosen(in my opinion) are capable of doing a good job if they have the support and resources to work. You dont have to be a genius to work in government. As long as the
I prefer new people coming in rather than recyling the old stock. If the SLPP want to get back into power, they have young and upcoming contenders to take the mantle, forget about these old cronies who have failed us time and time again.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Frued
To: All
Date Posted: 15:51:14 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
They may give him a hard time but with the IC on John's
side thanks to his anti AFRC/RUF rhetoric during the junta days.
The fact that the country needs a good opposition watch
dog makes him even more fit for the job. The Benjamins
and co are just political hustlers ready to do anything
for a living.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:37:55 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Though i think this is an exercise in wasted bandwidth, let me attempt at clarity one more time..
I am not a member of the SLPP, never was, never been..
I supported them during the last election.. i would have voted berewa if i was a registered voter..
But i am not a card carrying member..neither would i care at this stage who is the top huncho..
I have added white and blue to my colors after the election.. and gone back to salone mode switching off election mode.. as we all should...
I do hope the SLPP chooses someone we can all aspire to and keep the democratic fire burning, if they bounce back and salivate me with proper national agenda, i might go green.. if Ernest's performs, first term goals and promises kept, i might be going red next election season..
Yes, call me flip flopper, burn me at the cross..
I am not a diehard..
My religion, is salone.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:02 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.232.76
Message:
Candido, you never cease to amaze me. Remeber we've been here before and you absolutely made it clear that you're a very strong SLPP supporter. Why change of view now.
Don't dessert your party because of misfortune.
As for me, I've always maitained that I don't have definite party to support but which ever does well for the good of the country.
This time I'm APC for the next five years. Don't copy my style.
Though I don't like loyal support for a party, because I believe loyal supporters are not always for the interest of the nation, meaning even if the party mess up they still go with the flow.
Stay blessed.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Mr Grant...
I expressed strong support.. and i will continue to do so as and when i see fit on this and other forum depending on the issue been discussed and what side of the bed i wake up or if i GOT SOME the previouse night.. my prerogative...
This thread is about leading the party.. and my handle was mentioned.. I just wanted to make it clear.. i am only a supporter.. i have never given a cent.. dont have a wardrobe full of green vests, not registered etc.. etc.. JUST support... thats it..i do hope thats not looked at in a negative light.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:18:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.243.122.56
Message:
My friend, the same is attributed to me like I said, loyal support for a party is not the answer for our democracy.
I have respect for you bro.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 14:15:24 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.82.23.33
Message:
Candid
I like your wit ... You made me LOL.
Thanks
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 13:13:02 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
I need fifteen years to contest the Leadership of my Party. When that time comes, i will proudly present my case to the SLPP and if i am elected, will lead them to VICTORY.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 16:48:06 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-219-81-190.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net at 69.219.81.190
Message:
How old will you be then?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 16:54:21 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Old enough to be constitutionally qualified to lead the Party and Nation...
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: the Guy
To: All
Date Posted: 07:25:10 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 130.36.27.151
Message:
Great! you got my vote.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: TINK YOU DO ME
To: All
Date Posted: 08:09:08 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-57-248.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.57.248
Message:
Right, I will send you your sixty thousand leones and wan bag res
Subject: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 12:45:54 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-74-225-144.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 72.74.225.144
Message:
A few days ago, Cocorioko had a "Plans to Blackmail Cocorioko' article on the website. I responded in a post that Cocorioko, is beginning to sound like Sylvia Blyden for putting up "news" like this and to not fall into the trap of putting up every attack on the newspaper and Mr. Kanu or to start reporting on "news" about individuals related to this newspaer as this just turns the newspaper into a trashy tabloid.
A couple days later over the weekend, Cocorioko followed with worthless crap about an Alex Mansaray running into Sylvia Blyden at Lungi and that she congratulated Cocorioko on contributing to the election win of EK and that she does not have beef with Cocorioko, it is a fine newspaper etc. Now there is another front page item that Sylvia on Monday, has printed a rebuttal and that she made no such comments.
HELLO! This is what I was warning about. Keep this a newspaper, please! You're doing a good job. There, you have a compliments. Don't start reporting on how so and so said Cocorioko is a great newspaper or how Cocorioko helped win an election etc. Let's step it up. Too much of our representation on the internet is so third world and backwards. Make this a shining example. Please and thank you.
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 19:11:39 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-184-51-107.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 71.184.51.107
Message:
Was just on Awareness Times and they have what amounts to a declaration of war (see below) re this issue! Wow, this is even beyond the worst case scenario that I expected from her. Mr. Kanu, see why you can't reduce your esteemed media outlet to tabloid junk. Stay away from the back and forth with other SL newspapers. If any of them attacks you, it does not merit a response.
To highlight what I was cautioning against, about printing news about Mr. Kanu. Look at Sylvia's little volley shot below. I don't know if this is printed in the actual paper in Freetown, but look at what people looking for news have to read. Its all about the woman.
The Editor of Cocorioko is hereby being kindly asked to IMMEDIATELY remove the article he has placed on his front page which said article is completely full of inaccuracies and misquotations concerning the friendly meeting between the Publisher of this newspaper and Mr. Alex Mansaray at Lungi Airport two days ago. It will also do that editor well as a self-professed Man of God, to reflect on his sustained publication of a wicked litany of lies against the Publisher of this newspaper who has, to her deep credit, mostly ignored his penchance for publishing dangerous, hate-filled and inciteful false articles against her person.
Alex Mansaray is a gentleman who was meeting Awareness Times Publisher for the second time. The first time was during a visit to one of her Internet Cafes during which they had a nice rapport.
"The only reference I made to Alex Mansaray about Cocorioko at Lungi Airport, was to describe it as a 'lie-lie' newspaper that has sought times without number to demean me in the eyes of the public! I never spoke about their role in the APC let alone congratulated Cocorioko for its role in the just ended elections during which period he published unprintable LIES about me and my personal life. LIES, which I carefully ignored. I have bitten my tongue and placed my trust in God just as I have done all these years when Cocorioko released ceaseless lies against me to the public domain," Sylvia Blyden asserts.
If the Cocorioko Editor does not know it, THERE IS A GOD IN THIS WORLD and the Almighty's wrath, when he exercises it, against deserving people like the Cocorioko Editor, is a thing to be feared.
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Forum Veteran
To: All
Date Posted: 13:24:09 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: aca3ec82.ipt.aol.com at 172.163.236.130
Message:
It is not worthless crap, Sam. It is an interesting piece of news that speaks a lot. Ask other veteran forumites. Sylvia has always been a chameleon. This article is sort of saying: "Hey, you SLPPers out there. Listen. Sylvia will soon jump ship."
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 13:13:11 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
Syntax versus semantics! Your heading is misleading to say the least. I think you meant 'tell a lie' as opposed to 'lie on'.
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: London
To: All
Date Posted: 13:12:44 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
Syntax versus semantics! Your heading is misleading to say the least. I think you meant 'tell a lie' as opposed to 'lie on'.
Subject: sloppy or no proof reading
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 12:34:08 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
Headlines in error is taking away the readership quality. Kabs please fire your proof reader. My American colleagues grilled (Provoke- krio) me this morning. I am so disappointed.
ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
LIE ON????
New Jersey Morgage Banker and Businessman
Morgage????
for its elections -time role
elections -time role????
during their chance meeting
chance????
Subject: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 10:04:22 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
A recurring issue on various internet fora has to do with the ethnicity of the members of cabinet. Why is this such an important issue for people? I am hard pressed to see what difference a Minister's ethnicity makes especially since they are no longer MP's representing a consituency. A cabinet minister serves at the pleasure of the president to implement the president's agenda. Which is why the forcible inclusion of opposition parties in a so-called government of national unity makes no sense at all. How can we expect members of the SLPP to work harmoniously in goverment with the APC and then contest an election against them in 2012? Who will take credit for any achievements or failures? Na so one-party state kin begin!
But back to the issue of ethnicity of cabinet Ministers. Is there a belief that cabinet members may be biased to one region over another in the distribution of government largesse/development projects? Is there any evidence to support this belief? In every presidential administration since 1970, there has been regional dominance in the cabinet. And for the most part, these guys have enriched themselves personally without regard to their home consituencies. Other than S.I. Koroma and a few others, many did not even direct development projects to their area of origin. So why is ethnicity considered to be so important?
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's - AND History...
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:06 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.87.143.3
Message:
KKW, I do admire your idealism (your quote from Shakespeare's Hamlet explains much about your thinking).
Unfortunately, unlike the US and other western democracies, sub-Saharan African states do not have the benefit of political parties based on ideology. Our countries did not evolve through voluntary alliances but were forged overnight via the barrels of colonial guns and the hangman's noose (remember Chief Bai Bureh?).
So, whether we like it or not our systems are currently tribal and will be so for a while until natural genetic intermingling makes the issue redundant. In the meantime, it is essential that major tribal and regional blocks feel represented in any national government that wishes to preserve harmony.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 12:47:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
Please don't try to make like you just entered SL from out of space. Tribalism and Regionalism are a matter of fact in SL politics. Those two factors definitely influence our political system.
Even if tribalism is not taken into account, but regionalism should, in order to show "national representation" for the sake of epecting national confidence. Visit this link and see the analysis
Would you have been happy to see all Mendes or only people from the Suth and East in an SLPP government?
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:36 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
Brother Toegondoe, is it true that the APC ARE SUSPICIOUS OF CHARLES? A TOP APC WIG has confided in me that they distrust your man. By the way your OneSaloneNews appears professional.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 10:41:57 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
KKW, The past instances discussed in your piece occurred when Sierra Leone was an authoritarian state with unchallenged powers in Siaka Stevens. In this "New Dawn" where accountability is supposedly in vogue, a balanced cabinet is needed for fair, developmental representation. I am NOT calling for SLPP men to be co-opted into President Koroma's government. Far from it. The APC has quite a number of South-Easterners in its fold, and an even-handed distribution of cabinet posts in a government promising fair play, will be acceptably appropriate.
Last week, you drew an analogy with the federal government of the United States with regards to political appointments. The error in that comparison lies in the fact that the American political system is a union of states with a lot of local autonomy and resources for the execution of everyday business. Poor and centralized as we are, the absence of representation from the center of state power in Freetown, could easily turn into neglect.
Neglect deepens into abandonment, which gives rise to cones of squalid poverty in return. Those living within such "Bantustans" of poverty invariably associate their conditions with ethnicity. I am saying this with all the experience and recollections I have as a South-Easterner. Such analyses may be wrong, but that is how Sierra Leone is observed in the interior when state actors are heavily concentrated within a specific region.
We are different from America, and comparisons pitting American modes of power distribution to ours, are a bit far-fetched. I have known you online for quite sometime, and you are one of the most harmless brothers I know. That is why I chose to go over this topic. I normally move on after the first discharge of opinionated steam. Have a nice, brother KKW
U Man,
Nya Ngaa Tikekeh
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: silent majority
To: All
Date Posted: 12:52:39 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 195.54.227.249
Message:
"Poor and centralized as we are, the absence of representation from the center of state power in Freetown, could easily turn into neglect.
Neglect deepens into abandonment, which gives rise to cones of squalid poverty in return. Those living within such "Bantustans" of poverty invariably associate their conditions with ethnicity."
Bra E, like you i am responding because i recollect some enlightening contributions from you on this forum.
You may be right about the perception of the people living in 'Bantustans' You may also be right about the fact that they blame ethnicity.
But by your own admission the heart of the problem is 'NEGLECT' by the centre of power. It is the president that has a mandate. If such a president is predisposed to neglecting large areas of the interior then surely he will suffer the consequences in this 'new dawn'. Furthermore the ministers serve at the pleasure of the president so again if the president is prepared to neglect any areas then even if the minister comes from that area he is still bound to do the president's bidding or lose his job. Result: neglect.
In my view the critical issues in the 'new dawn' are
a; whether the president has a programme for delivering sustainable jobs, running water, electricity and other developments for the greatest number of voters.
b; whether he can find the right people with talent, determination and resourcefulness to deliver this programme as he is bound to meet with resisitance from erstwhile vested interests and a general resisitance to change.
If you accept that analysis then it follows that the presidents overriding consideration in selecting ministers must be merit, commiiment to his programme etc. Not ethnicity. Because in the final analysis it is the President that will be called to account for his stewardship at the next elections and if he has not delivered on jobs, light and water the 'balance of his cabinet is unlikely to count for much.
In my view that fact that a 'state actor' is from one's area offers little more that a temporay 'feel good' factor. There is little to suggest that this is a great factor in driving the performance of a 'state actor' to the benefit of his area. The real driver of perfomance of the minister in this 'new dawn' is the programme of the president and the capacity of the president to monitor his ministers performance. So it is the presidents programme that must be balanced.
In conclusion therefore; what we really need in this 'new dawn' is a government of national delivery rather than a government of national unity.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 11:19:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
Bra E - we can agree to disagree on this point. As far as I am aware, there is no region in Sierra Leone, (even the capital) that is not dirt poor. From my travels around the country, I have not seen any evidence that one region is noticeably more developed than others. In fact arguably the cities of Bo and Kenema in the south east show more promise than say, Makeni or Port Loko.
Even looking at some of the projects in the Transition Committee's report, I do not see regional bias. If the correlation between ethnicity at the centre and distribution of the national cake were true, we should have seen the majority of projects going to the South-East during the last 10 years or so.
So I think we are talking about perception rather than reality. If people "feel good" that their kinsfolk are part of the administration, even though their region does not directly benefit from it, well, we're talking about an intangible, unsupported by facts.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: national unity
To: All
Date Posted: 10:38:41 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
They can be from APC but from other regions. That is what i believe is lacking in the current cabinet.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: SGK
To: All
Date Posted: 18:59:39 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 91.84.136.50
Message:
national unity,
My brother it is very difficult to find someone from the the east/south-east whole heartedly loyal to the APC party and the president as a whole. I think that was the conundrum for the president.
Subject: Looking for Ticket
From: mo
To: All
Date Posted: 08:54:29 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: mahamay22312@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 69.25.45.6
Message:
I guess there was someone who said they sell tickets to freetown through Brussels or France; could you please contact me by email or give a number with area code that you could be reach.
Or do anybody knows how i can get a better deal for tickets to Freetown? please help.
kind regards
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: Bhaskar
To: All
Date Posted: 21:32:10 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: bhaskarsmail@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe00195b4bf214-cm001a667071fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com at 99.227.232.7
Message:
Fly from anywhere in Canada to London (Gatwick) tickets are as less as CAD 400 return and then on from London fly AIR MOROC it flies to freetown twice a week now. London to Morocco change of plane to Freetown. Return in Air Moroc is costing CAD/US 1150 which means your total trip is of abour 1600 only. I am not a travel agent but a frequent flier in this route. Want more info write to me, i will be glad to help you.
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: Pa Sorie
To: All
Date Posted: 19:45:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-24-168-2-173.si.res.rr.com at 24.168.2.173
Message:
try 240 988 2918, they will beat any quote u have.....
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: BRITISH AIRWAYS FOR $2,380.00
To: All
Date Posted: 10:40:06 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
I CAN SELL YOU A TICKET ON BRITISH AIRAYS TO FREETOWN FOR $2,380.00 CONTACT MOHAMED BARIGUE 240-724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: AIR FRANCE CONAKRY $1300
To: All
Date Posted: 10:42:08 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
I CAN SELL YOU A TICKET ON AIR FRANCE TO CONAKRY FOR $1,300.00 PLEASE CALL (240)724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: SLOK
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:57 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
Message:
SOUTH AFRICA TO SENEGAL IS $1145.00
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: FROM SENGAL TO FREETOWN?
To: All
Date Posted: 10:51:01 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
CAN I GO BY ROAD FROM SENGEAL TO FREETOWN OR HOW MUCH IS THE PLANE COST FROM DAKAR TO FREETOWN? THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: slok
To: All
Date Posted: 14:59:13 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
Message:
Slok cost $199.00 and 325.00 round trip to freetown.
Flight leaves on friday, saturday and tuesday.South africs goes everyday to senegal from jfk and returns to JFK and DC.
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: SN BRUSSELS TO FREETOWN FOR $1457.00
To: All
Date Posted: 10:44:25 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
I CAN SELL YOU A TICKET ON SN BRUSSELS TO FREETOWN FOR $1,457.00 PLEASE CALL MOHAMED BARIGUE 240-724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: FLY NOW PAY LATER
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:20 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
BILL ME IN 6 MONTHS OR MAKE PAYMENT PLANS. FOR THE LOWEST TICKET TO FREETOWN , PLEASE CALL MOHAMED BARIGUE @ 240-724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:04:37 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Mohamed Barigue. his number is 240-724-6246. Lives in MD
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: BRITISH AIRWAYS REAP-OFF.
To: All
Date Posted: 11:04:07 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
Why is British airways so expensive? Are they selling the tickets in pounds and then converting the currency and then charging us. Please link below on how they are stealing money from Africans
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: AIRWAY ROBBERY
To: All
Date Posted: 11:11:34 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
They are responsible for the underdevelopment of African countries.
Subject: Cabinet
From: Observation
To: All
Date Posted: 08:38:10 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
It is very distressing to see that a brilliant,patriotic and articulate Economist J. Sanpha Koroma is left out of the Cabinet.He could be a great Asset to APC.
Subject: Re: Cabinet
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 09:50:28 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
There are several other places for him to make a contribution.
Subject: Re: Cabinet
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 11:40:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: m167-mp1.ppphg-12-manc.dial.ntli.net at 80.0.118.167
Message:
I believe he (J. Sanpha Koroma) can best serve by continuing to encourage other S. Leoneans to participate in the private sector. He has made a huge contribution to the development of indigenous corporate ventures.
Whatever his faults, he should be respected and honoured for "putting his money where his mouth is" and creating 100s of stable jobs for his compatriots.
Subject: EKE HOLLOWAY IS A CROOK
From: Ibrahim Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 08:29:43 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 195.172.14.80
Message:
This man has been involved in so many dubious activities and has used his connections with the SLPP to get away with a lot of things.For instance he sold a land at Juba to my late uncle and was sued by someone else who claimed the land was his.Lawyers were reluctant to pursue the case given his strong connections with the then ruling party.Eke your time is up as you can no longer hide but face justice for your criminal acts.Sierra Leone belongs to all of us and with the new dawn upon us there shall be sacred cows.Lonta
Subject: Re: EKE HOLLOWAY IS A CROOK
From: Pa Sorie
To: All
Date Posted: 19:47:14 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-24-168-2-173.si.res.rr.com at 24.168.2.173
Message:
go court
Subject: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: David Conteh, Lagost, Nigeria
To: All
Date Posted: 07:40:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: poah76@msn.com
Entered From: c-24-128-87-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 24.128.87.202
Message:
According to a Sierra Leonean resident in Nigeria, the Kabba SLPP siphoned millions of hard currency through the Sierra Leone ambassador to Nigeria,his deputy, and head of chancery. Mr. David Conteh, a student in Nigeria sent this report to The Patriotic Vanguard as a contribution under the headline, New Cabinet Ministers Announced. He earlier tried the awareness times and realized that it is pro slpp media so he sorted to put this information on The Patriotic Vanguard, appealing to the editor to pass this message to the present APC government. According to Mr. David Conteh, the three persons mentioned above are richer than a whole region in Sierra Leone and is appealing to the Koroma's administration to probe into the issue without delay. If that is true all ambassadors must be screened thoroughly with the help of their respective host governments. Mr. Conteh is also appealing to the press to make this issue known to the public. The Lebian President might also be of help to some of these allegations.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: Democracy Now
To: All
Date Posted: 12:49:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: alubless@comcast.net
Entered From: c-24-128-87-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 24.128.87.202
Message:
I hope the SL Government and the SL 'FBI' will take note of this rumor and treat it with seriousness. It is unrealistic to ask of evidence from an ordinary man who has simply try to tip the state of the information. We do not know who David Conteh is, he might be a blind man or a house boy who might be disregarded in secrete conversations so it is unwise to ignore such info on the basis of lack of evidence. In as much as rumor should not be granted as truth, it is also unwise to sit down without making any effort about it. I think it is the responsibility of the state to find the evidence if it can.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: You AxxHxxx
To: All
Date Posted: 08:23:41 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
Where is the Bank account, what is the name of account holder,what is the account number,who are the signatories???If you do not have answers for these, just sidom saful, and do not waste our time.We have a lot and lot of work to do.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: nico
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Date Posted: 08:54:47 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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"We have a lot and lot of work to do"
I agreed with the above and accountability is major part of the work.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: David Conteh
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Date Posted: 07:53:21 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: poah76@msn.com
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Sorry for the spelling mistake on the above head line. It should be THE SLPP SIPHONED MILLIONS OF $ TO NIGERIA.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: who is conteh?
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Date Posted: 07:57:11 10/15/07 ()
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Why should anyone believe you? Where is the evidence?
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: nico
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Date Posted: 09:02:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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It is unwise to provide criminal evidence on the internet before an investigation was made. I would suggest such evidence to be forwarded to the Salone authority. They will decide whether on the bases of information at hand is cridible to mount a prema facia case against the accused. Let us not redicle people who may have genuine case on corruption.
Subject: British boost Police force
From: Bridlington Today
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Date Posted: 06:49:05 10/15/07 ()
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Police gift to Africa
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View GalleryBy Jodie Beecroft
POLICE officers in Sierra Leone are going to be able to conduct interviews more efficiently after a donation from Humberside Police.
Interview machines are not available in Sierra Leone and Humberside Police's machines were surplus to requirements, because they had been replaced by more advanced models.
Deputy Chief Constable David Griffin said: "We are happy to help our colleauges in Sierra Leone.
"The machines have played a part in many successful investigations across the Humberside Police area and I hope they will do the same in their new home."
Subject: Response by Awareness Times
From: M
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Date Posted: 01:28:09 10/15/07 ()
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Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher at Lungi
By Awareness Times
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The Editor of Cocorioko is hereby being kindly asked to IMMEDIATELY remove the article he has placed on his front page which said article is completely full of inaccuracies and misquotations concerning the friendly meeting between the Publisher of this newspaper and Mr. Alex Mansaray at Lungi Airport two days ago. It will also do that editor well as a self-professed Man of God, to reflect on his sustained publication of a wicked litany of lies against the Publisher of this newspaper who has, to her deep credit, mostly ignored his penchance for publishing dangerous, hate-filled and inciteful false articles against her person.
Alex Mansaray is a gentleman who was meeting Awareness Times Publisher for the second time. The first time was during a visit to one of her Internet Cafes during which they had a nice rapport.
"The only reference I made to Alex Mansaray about Cocorioko at Lungi Airport, was to describe it as a 'lie-lie' newspaper that has sought times without number to demean me in the eyes of the public! I never spoke about their role in the APC let alone congratulated Cocorioko for its role in the just ended elections during which period he published unprintable LIES about me and my personal life. LIES, which I carefully ignored. I have bitten my tongue and placed my trust in God just as I have done all these years when Cocorioko released ceaseless lies against me to the public domain," Sylvia Blyden asserts.
If the Cocorioko Editor does not know it, THERE IS A GOD IN THIS WORLD and the Almighty's wrath, when he exercises it, against deserving people like the Cocorioko Editor, is a thing to be feared
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 05:02:02 10/15/07 ()
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I have always known that this..woman Sylvia, is as slithery as a snake. If you play with a snake, get ready to be bitten "where the sun don't shine". Cocorioko should not be playing with a Gaboon Viper. This is a typical case of He Said, She Said. People are going to take sides on the isue. I firmly believe Cocorioko's version of events and I will leave it at that. My mouth is itching to let loose on Madam Awareness, but I heed Kabs' counsel that we let sleeping vipers lie.
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: FORREST GUMP
To: All
Date Posted: 06:47:57 10/15/07 ()
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I believe very firmly The Awareness Times version because Cocorioko has been known to twist stories around
FORREST
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:53:31 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear FORREST:
I respectfully beg to differ. As between Kabs and Sylbyana RUF Mrs. Foday Sankoh, Kabs is the more honest and responsible.
The other is a harloting, unprincipled, lying rouge who can turn against you in a flash in promoting her fickled-self-interests and should never be trusted, ever! Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 09:06:49 10/15/07 ()
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I believe Cocorioko because Kabs is more truthful than Sylvia Blyden. Everything that Kabs writes comes to pass. All Kabs reported about the election turned out to be true and APC won. SLPPers disputed everthing that came from his pen but Kabs was exonerated when everything came true. The Frog-Doctor on the other hand said Berewa had won the elections by 58% to 42% , going by exit polls she conducted all over Sierra Leone.It turned out to be just one of Sylvia's lies.
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: ADE LAUGH
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Date Posted: 11:07:43 10/15/07 ()
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Kabs is real and Ninja girl a farce. My two cents is that Kabs should just ignore that ugly thing of a viper.
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: The Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 11:14:20 10/15/07 ()
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This should never have been reported in the first place; it is not a worthy news. Always endeavor to avoid your adversary as much as possible, even reporting favorable news about him.
Subject: SYLVIA BLYDEN A FAN OF COCORIOKO
From: U SA BI TALK
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Date Posted: 00:09:04 10/15/07 ()
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Alex Mansaray commonly known as Lexo in the creole circle was very very upset to learn that this Buffalo
Journalist, is denying saying that cocorioko did a superb Job for APC during the last elections .The awarenesstimes newspaper Editor, is said to have been flaurting with Lexo when she revailed her true feelings for Lexo, cocorioko and APC.Cheers to Sylvia for letting it all hang loose.
Long live cocorioko.
Subject: Re: SYLVIA BLYDEN A FAN OF COCORIOKO
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 09:11:41 10/15/07 ()
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What makes me believe that Sylvia said so is why would Kabs write a good story about his enemy ? After all, the article does a lot of good to Sylvia.Infact when I read it I was vexed and I asked whether Kabs has started again to praise and lift up Sylvia.
Subject: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 22:50:02 10/14/07 ()
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Buford why the silence my brother?
Are you now one of the PAs? Or are you a disappointed politician who expected to be a part of the Koroma Cabinet?
Usai you dae?
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: KONGOSSA
To: All
Date Posted: 08:53:53 10/15/07 ()
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Buford hwy is doing find and he is in Canada working,but he comes back to the US every weekend,and he should be back somtime this week finally. Before he left for Canada,he was called upon to serve on the transition team,but turned it down because of his contract at his job.
Bra Salone needs someone like buford hwy's knowledge,and Bra A.I.and FODAY MANSARAY can testify to that. I am in DC,but everybody knows in the rank and file of the APC that BUFORD HWY does not want any poltical appointment.
BRA AR NOR WAN BLOW EI COVER,BUT DE BORBOH GET SENSE EN MONEY NAR HERE SO EN SALONE.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:08:10 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Ar need for see am wae e cam.. whenever that is.. I will be in Sierra leone this month.. and Canada next month-Toronto and Burlington to be precise.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: KONGOSSA
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Date Posted: 09:34:58 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
watin do? u wan for mix am up nar den oona tiff en crook slpp way? doya lef de borboh saful.slpp eniside oona go nar for go corrupt.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:51:58 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Bra yousef lef me . ah...Bo watin wrong with you ba?
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 04:52:09 10/15/07 ()
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Alieu, you have some serious issues that need to be resolved on a pschiatrist's couch. You and your co-SLPP fanatic, 'Alpha' Saidu Bangura need to stanch this immature glee at what you presume to be the 'misfortune' of others. By the way, did being a loyal foot soldier of the SLPP get you buttered with some of the loot your party stole? Well, the APC is not like that. Support here does not require a kickback. So as you laugh your head off like a hyena, and obsess yourself to distraction with tribal profiling of the cabinet, just realize that you guys are gonna be in the political wilderness for 40 years like Moses. Welcome to the poitical Sanai, chump!
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 07:33:12 10/15/07 ()
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"'Misfortune'"? Buford is a friend and his abscence is a concern. Go look for somebody else for FEN PLABA.
The SLPP will be back in 2012 trust me. Your party will not deliver on the numerous promises.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:12 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Ah Alieu, the APC is gonna amaze, dazzle and scintillate the cheerleader out of your miserable party. We will deliver the goods to the Sierra Leoneans, while you greenies will be tapping wine from the barren palmtree. 40 years in power! Even Buford will get a ministerial post at some point in time.
By the way, is it true that SLPP thugs, egged on by the intellectual thugs in the diaspora have threatened to beat up ex-President Kabba if they ever lay their hands on him? I hear that a special rattan cane has been imported by John Benjamin from Segbwema for the express purpose of caning the former president. EH SLPP, U NAR NOR KNOW SAY U NAR GO TOTE SWEH FOR DAE FLAG OLD PA DEM?
Subject: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 22:23:00 10/14/07 ()
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I do not want to take part in the Bondo discussion because my views on this topic are very contrary to Western characterizations of this tradition. However, I have a question that has been lodged in me for quite some time. The phrase "female genital mutilation" is definitely very lurid, and that is how its {Western} originators want it to remain. Here is my question.
Why is it that Western moralists and prudes have NEVER referred to male circumcision as "Male Genital Mutilation, MGM?"
My intention is NOT to defend or trivialize the {perceived} abnormality in the Bondo society. However, I have quibbles with Western perceptions of Africa. As a student of International Relations, I am certainly no stranger to the manipulation of words and phrases by Western nations with racist intent. Racism is part of International Politics, and one only needs to look at the global stage to know why "genocide" was stopped in Bosnia only to have the lexical meaning of the word debated in Darfur. When the Spanish do the yearly "running of the bull" in which throngs of Europeans run in front of a charging seven-hundred pound bull, it is called a tradition. The sight of Africans doing a similar thing will be frowned upon as barbaric, hence the Western racist belief that Africans are mentally inferior.
The racist justifications for slavery continue today, albeit with subtlety. Deny a targeted people every chance to define themselves on their own terms, and move in with justifications for wanting them "civilized." This was the step taken toward slavery and colonialism. The West single-handedly decides what is civilized and what is not. Male circumcision will be probably called "Male Genital Mutilation" if it were not done in the West. Why is male circumcision not referred to as "Male Genital Mutilation?" Is it because Western policy makers are all circumcised adults?
After slavery and colonialism, why let John Bull continue to decide what is appropriate?
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 01:22:33 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Bra Enviable, Ar dae wit yu.
I posed the same question to our cyber-sista (cyber-named Mballu).
The same women that are performing these rituals or as they call it, unscientific unwestern process are the same women that are performing as midwifes at birth time in the villages.
No one is crying about deaths at births in the villages upline due to unhygeinised non-medical tools.
The midwifes in the villages have been helping out even when there are no hospitals. Heck a lot of Sierra Leonean born in the provinces during 50s to 70s were not born in hospitals.
So who took care of all our fine women?
FGM is abnormal in civilised society so we should bash it. WHAT? WHAT?
Why did the Word "MUTILATION" even got appended to the practice?
I search for the word Mutilation in wikipedia and here is what came up.
According to western standards, examples of mutilation can be found in Africa. That's what is found on wikipedia when any race wants to find out about MUTILATION. No sample of anywhere else in world except Africa.
When westerners Scar themselves in these SADIST/MASOCHISM palours, oh no no no, It is NOT Mutilation. This is called a LIFESTYLE. Give us a break!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutilation
Now you tell me Brothers what you think.
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 01:35:38 10/15/07 ()
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My Bad!
One of the photos is from Papua New Guinea (PNG), but all the same a BLACK race.
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 00:45:31 10/15/07 ()
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This may come as a surprise to you Bra E. But male circumscision is mandated in the Bible and the Koran for many reasons chief amongst them is cleanliness. Female circumscision is however not mandated either by the koran, the torah or the bible. Male circus=mscision is derived from the dictates of the Abrahimic religions which is not so for FGM.
What will surprise you however is that there are studies that show that many men in the so called western world are actually uncircumscised.
I very much support your points on the issue of the wests racisit attitudes towards our people. But to what extent have we brought that upon ourselves? You see bra E people do not respect you if you do not respect yourselves. If wee want the west to respect us we must first start by creating societies that are liveable. FGM has no place in that new dispensation.
when we relate every effort to recreate our societies according to What is right, not what is expedient, the introduction into the calculus of arguments about wersternism is an unreasonable segue which is non conforming to the thrust of the present debate. All the same your points are well taken.
Stay Blessed bra.
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 08:07:47 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
Guys,
In 2001, the Africa Online forum went up in flame on this same issue, and it created unnecessary friction amongst participants who chose to contribute.
Alieu, you are well aware that FGM is an ancient tradition, as much as the majority of us opposes it, we have been going about the wrong way to dispose of it.
In 1999, the theme for International Women’s day was violence against women, and FGM was the main topic at the Africa Women’s Caucus. We sat in our own small room fidgeting with our big head ties on our heads trying to come up with proposals to challenge our elders back home.
In 2004, when we gave an update, there was some improvement here and there, but the elders are still succeeding. This means that we have to come up with “alternative” strategies to eradicate an old tradition.
This year , the International Women’s Day decided to use the same theme as that of 1999 …. Violence against Women. … FGM was on the list, but this time around, it was overshadowed by Rape.
Alieu, we have been doing the best we can, it’s going to take some time, but I believe you have seen some changes in Sierra Leone.
It’s a long journey, which requires a triple A card.
(Awareness, Acceptance and Action)
We are AWARE of the problem, we’ve ACCEPTED that it’s a problem, the most difficult task in our journey is taking ACTION against it.
This is where I support Lovey Dovey’s (Bra E.) sentiments … It’s our problem, now we know we don’t want it anymore, we have to apply the traditional method to eradicate it. Respect to those who believe in it, and let them know why it’s now outdated and has no use in today’s society.
In 1999, I was one of those fiery speakers at the Caucus, and I was considered too young and too passionate, even though they utilized me to the fullest …. Today, it’s a different story … I did what I did then, based on my limited experience, now that I know more than I knew then, my approach is totally different today.
What I’ve noticed so far amongst those who went through the tradition, is the anger they bring to the table because of their LOSS. This campaign is not about us, it’s about our younger sisters and those to come.
It’s about PREVENTION, not INTERVENTION…. If you have been through it, you just have to find alternative ways of getting pleasure, and sometimes taking the alternative route can be scenic, and might become the best route you ever took …. Your imagination and creativity is up for grabs
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:08 10/15/07 ()
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I enjoyed reading this response and it waslike a breath of fresh air.
Thanks!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: Lovey Dovey
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Date Posted: 09:16:30 10/15/07 ()
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Lady J, Nar so u sabi raps?
In future, we go make u
Foreign Minister for
represent Salone nar
dae international community.
U geh dae xperience already.
Enty u ready eh?
Na im dat. Leh man go school.
Subject: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 19:58:48 10/14/07 ()
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Message:
Alieu,
Of all your suggestions, I support the one below. May be we should train the local people as well and provide them with modern equipments to perform the practice for health reasons. Below is your quote.
"ONLY qualified medical doctors should be allowed to conduct the procedures and any violations of that law be sanctioned by imprisonment. (Now lets see them break their Hippocratic Oath)” This is the COMPROMISE and then follow with a longitudinal study of randomly selected subjects in different countries and tribes.
Mutilation of body parts done by self or someone else is not good. There are a lot of things done to body parts that are not right. However, any of the bad acts that either originates from the West or also practice in the west is OK. But when the practice is only done by Africans or the so called “third world”, it is evil. As for me, FGM, body piercing, tattooing, self cutting, removing part of your body for fashion like plastic surgery or removing part of your body because you don’t want to have a baby, are all bad. If it is for medical reason, that is OK. These things are done in the west, but no one is condemning it under the notion of CHOICE. Once it is done in the West or originates from the West and taken to other parts of the world, Oh, the West is the model for civilization and therefore, it is OK. Once it originates from the West or the act is a practiced or endorsed by the West, nothing is wrong. Why can't the local people be trained, give them modern equipment and them do a LONGITIDUNAL study. The study will look at all the alleged ills associated to FGM. May be conclusion of the study may find it healthy or most if not all the assertions are insignificant. Some of the things the study should look at are cleanliness/hygiene, reduction of promiscuity, problems related to child birth by the procedure etc. The study should have a "control group" as well. To see if there is a significant difference between those who underwent FGM and those did that did not. If there is any difference and that difference is it positive or negative.
I don't just want someone to condemn a practice because he/she is not practicing it. When enough of such studies are done, the scientific results published, then make a movie or video CDs/DVD for people to watch and become educated about the issue. The study may reveal that there is not a significant difference between the EXPRIMENTAL GROUP AND CONTROL GROUP. A LONGITUDINAL STUDY IS ONE IN WHICH YOU FOLLOW THE SUBJECT BEFORE THE FGM, AFTER THE FGM FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 11:00:51 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
I guess Mballu may disagree with you because her version is concetrated on sexual fantasies not health issues. I want to hear what she has to say on this good suggestion if she is not another rotten brick in the wall.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 00:31:25 10/15/07 ()
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"reduction of promiscuity"
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I am laughing, my friend did you mean to say that? What if MEN were the victims of a "cultural process" that reduces their promiscuity? Would you be in support of that? Who are we to advocate for a process one of the side effects of which is to "Reduce womens promiscuity". This is a crazy idea my friend. Now lest address the other issues you have raised. MY opposition to the FGM issue is purely on human rights grounds, health and female welfare grounds nothing else. There are no positives to the practice and as a mater of fact it has been shown that many women who have undergone the process are more prone to have episiotomies during child birth than women who have not gone through the process.
I am an african and I would like to protect that aspect of our culture which is unique, but not that which in my opinion is reflective of the low esteem with which we treat our women folk. I am not opposed to FGM because it is a western idea.
So what if our culture has always been that men are subjected to a certain process which hinders their ability to sexually express themselves, or in other manners affect them negatively should we in this modern age acept that?
My take is that we gain education so that we can reflect on our societies and find ways to make it conform to the modern age. The practice has been outlawed in many other countries in Africa. Is it that we in sierra leone do not have the political will to make drastic changes in our society. My solution as outlined below is simple. Go back and read it. It does not stop the process it only provides for an educated and informed decision on the part of initiatees and their signifiicant family members.
I fully support a culture that helps to shapegirls into women, not one that mutilates them under the worst non septic surgical conditions and attempts to justify it with culture. Culture shouldnt hurt if we can help it and this we can. It is a health issue and a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE. Sure we have had many "Stupid" Ministers who have advocated for the continuance of the process. This can only be attributed to a pandering to the ignorance of our people. Many of the initiatees do not have a say in the process and are initiated without theor consent. All I am saying is that there should be some sort of INFORMED CONSENT. Whats wrong with that?
Stay Blessed brother!
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 09:24:08 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alieu,
This Bondo issue has been an issue in Africa well before the Human right protocols were developed. I don't know whether you are aware of this; but let me say that in Sierra Leone, we have tribes that are not practicing it at all. There are tribes that do practice it. The tribes that practice it are in majority. The women even laugh at each other, when those who practice it refer to those is not practicing it as “Gborokas” The story goes deeper than that. So those who are not practicing are embarrassed sometimes when they are called "GBOROKAS"
As a matter of fact, those tribes that are not practicing it at all are in the fore front against FGM. You said that there have been studies to show problems related to childbirth because of FGM? I don't believe you at all. And don't tell me anything about the report or statements made to the Immigration, by some Asylum seekers, who have said that they ran away to seek asylum because part of their body was cut off. If any longitudinal studies have been done, show us the publications. That is why I said, to proof or disproof the assertions made, select experimental groups and control groups among different tribes and follow them for 20 years or so. Then interview them as they grow older and becoming parents about childbirth, sex etc. Then share their experiences under normal conditions and when looking for asylum or something else.
Alieu, you are making people to go too deep into things that are not necessary.
Have done a study that compared childbirth complications cases related to FGM and non FGM women? Sow me the study. When we want something in the Western world, coming from a third world country, we say all kinds of lies, just to get asylum or grants as an NGO with the notion of going back to fight against it or educate people. We do that to ourselves.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Wan Ten Kemeh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:00:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: kemeh@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 202.70.85.3
Message:
I wonder where you got the idea that Bundu actually reduces promiscuosity. As I was saying, that is the slavish type mentality that has been ingrained in africans by the white man. I am sure that you will not oppose male circumcision because it is been practiced in the western world. To justify it, they have come up with studies that shows that it is good for men because it originated in Israel and later practiced by so-called europeans who were converted to christianity. These same white prople have produced tons of reports (like the one they used to convince the world that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction) that On the other hand bundo or Sande which has been given the name FGM by the white world is bad just because it originated in africa. Please try to grow up. Tha fact that you are living in the western world which to me means that you have that same slavish mentality does not make you or them correct.
When the white man came to africa hundreds of years ago, they told our people that the Gods thay worship are false Gods and their owm Gods are the true ones. We swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Now there are more practising christians in the third world than are in the western world. In fact according to a report released by the Chirch of England few years ago, they have more problems convincing their children that there is a God than the ones they faced when the came to Africa years ago.
have you ever sat back and look at the things that are practiced by white people that are either considered as good or as signs of good upbringing, etiquette class. Have you ever questioned some of the cultural practices of white people. They take some of these so important that someone like you will find yourself in Sierra Leomne the minute you try to question them. You however sit in europe, america or wherever you are opposing the very things that distinguishes you from the rest of the world apart from the colour of your skin. Try to grow up or as Bob Marley said "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery".
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Tribal Marks
To: All
Date Posted: 03:16:00 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-69-20.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.69.20
Message:
Of course Colonialists and their Stooges justify that Africans were colonized inorder to civilize them.,,But where does the buck stop?...
After FGM maybe the next so called human rights issue put forth by outsiders to civilize us will be traditional tribal marks(tatoos) who knows?....
To me,the fact that Debeers or Tiffany profits more from Sierra Leone's diamonds trade than Sierra Leone or Sierra Leoneans is more of human rights issue than FGM.
So let's get our priority in order...en Leh God sorry for we all!
Oona Don Eat!
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Wan Ten Kemeh
To: All
Date Posted: 22:07:16 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: kemeh@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 202.70.85.3
Message:
Thabks a lot my brother. The advice you have given in your piece is well worth it. I m personally opposed to this Bundu or Sande issue but it is purely on health and emotional grounds. If however your advice is followed, then I see no reason why we cannot continue with it in africa. This idea that is ingrained in the pysch of africans that their cultures and traditions are wrong because tgey are not approved by western nations is wrong. We should not as we say in Krio (fodom na wata en turn fish) just to please the westerners. We should cling unto our culture and traditions because that what makes us africans.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 22:54:17 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
Message:
Thank you too my brother!
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: you sa be talk
To: All
Date Posted: 00:22:14 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74
Message:
This is a woman. Why are you refering to Wan Ten Komot
as a man
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 08:51:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
Message:
I am sory if you are a lady.
Subject: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 19:45:47 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Brabanxx@aol.com
Entered From: pool-72-82-165-200.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 72.82.165.200
Message:
Chez & Babob
You are in the noble company of HE John Leigh and myself. I attended the AA and I taught mathematics and science 79-83 before proceeding to the US. Please email me at Brabanxx@aol.com. Our school neath the trees upon the hillside is in dire need of help from her sons and daughters in the diaspora.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 04:50:46 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.34
Message:
Hey! You guys. I am an Acdemician old boy too. Don't just count me out.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 05:51:31 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 91.75.37.130
Message:
We aren't counting anyone out. Chez and me just made known the good works of Pa Omopeh Harding and we got an invite from Brabanxx.
By the way, what years were you in AA?
Esse Quam Videri!!!
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 13:39:23 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.224
Message:
I was there from 72 - 81. Knew lots of folks. I was around during the days of Omope Harding and Mamy Williams (Typing). I was a senoir of Little John. The Ansuma Bangura (son of Bishop Bangura) was a classmate. Bona Maturi, Alusine Deen, Babatunde Wagie, Alfred Beaty, Unisa Bangura, Ones Walker and later in the sixth form, Kevin Williams, Alimamy Dura Turay, Abdul Ajiji Bah, Estha Adenuga, Estha Barley, Rosemany etc. were all classmates.
Esse Quam Videri!!!
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 19:49:38 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
UK5,
I think we're in the same group but you were two to three years ahead of me. Somewhere within those years, Ones Walker and Alfred Beatty were my classmates.
I remember Alusine Deen, he used to make us proud on SLBS TV. Do you recall the gameshow all top schools used to participate in? something like TIC-TAC-TOE / Cross-word.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 02:12:01 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.83
Message:
Oh really? Ones Walker has been the Accountant of the Sierra Leone Breweries (Wellington). Alfred Beaty is in the US. I met Alusine Deen in London in 1990. We had a good time together. Accuidently bumped into people like Clifford Richards and Bona Maturi. That was way back in 1990.
Well, I hope to extend the rap later.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 04:02:38 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-205-118.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.205.118
Message:
Brabanxx, I was at the UK AAA Thanksgiving. it was well attended and I was happy to see mammy Findley. The UK group is doing well and the sermon was what you tocuhed on - to give back to our young minds what we were given. Dedication to such objectives was also a key area touched.
We are behind the new exec here in the UK - I sure hope their determination will address the issues you raised.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: The guy next door
To: All
Date Posted: 16:56:51 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-219-81-190.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net at 69.219.81.190
Message:
What a name Chez, Mamay Findly I believe Geography, ho about Mammy Fanucie, Johnson(literature) and my darling Mammy Yellow?
I am much younger, student # 1735....
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 19:38:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Now, you're bringing the good times back.
Miss Johnson (Literature) was my class teacher in Form 1. How about Mr. McRae (mathematics)? Or Kama (PE)
Do you remember Miss Nicolson who used to live up FBC? (virtually our whole class used to be infatuated with her). I met her some years back when I went to SL for vacation. The woman doesn't get old and she's still elegant. I chatted her up and she didn't recognise that I was her past student, so I joked that I would have proposed marriage right now if she wasn't married then she laughed all the way.
Mammy Yellow was great, and she commanded respect from everyone.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 14:51:22 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.59
Message:
Then I must know you. All the names of teachers above taught me too. There was 'Okala' who later taught me maths in Form 3. I was surprised one day on my way home, watching from a Poda Poda, I saw Mr. McRae kissing 'Okala'. They have just wedded in a Church [don't know the name], exactly opposite Benz Garage, Blackhall Road. Can you imagine the surprise, seeing my two teachers kissing? Thank God it was a wedding!
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 01:51:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 91.75.37.130
Message:
Bra Bankie,
I'll get back to albertacademy@yahoogroups.com.
I've not peeped in for ages, but I'll see what's up.
I finished my 5th form at AA in 1980, but I can't remember you. Mammy Bailor was still Vice Pricipal. Mr. Kawa, Sellu (the bat) et al were still there.
Anyway, I'll touch base and send email at the addie stated above.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: Pa Sorie
To: All
Date Posted: 19:54:05 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-24-168-2-173.si.res.rr.com at 24.168.2.173
Message:
student No. 13317.....
Subject: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 19:31:19 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
Message:
During the campaign I told members of the APC in the USA that President Ernest Koroma has no respect and trust in any of them. But my brothers and sisters in the APC north America did not believe me.
I encourage members of the APC N/AMERICA region to look at the composition of Mr. Koroma's cabinet and tell me how many people he nominated from this region?
Please, do not tell me about Alhaji Abu Bakarr Jalloh because he has moved to Sierra Leone a long time ago.
Mr. Koroma does not appreciate your financial and moral contributions to his success.
I know for a fact that 65% of the money spent by the APC came from the USA chapter.
Mr.Charles Margai will never forget that most of the money his party(PMDC) used came from his USA chapter that is why he nominated three of his members for ministerial appointments.
I will like members of the APC N/America region to keep in their minds that any other position(deputy minister, ambassador, head or member of a board) given to them is lesser in rank and status to the position of minister.
A huge number of your members left the USA(their jobs and families), went to Sierra Leone helped the party win the elections but when the time for the APC to pay them back came, they were ignored. I am sure that Mr. Koroma promised members of the APC N/America some positions.
It is my understanding that the APC-N/America is organizing a victory dance on Oct.20th, 2007 in Maryland and all the proceeds will to go the Mr.Ernest Koroma when he comes the USA, very soon. It is interesting to know that you guys want to thank him(Mr. Koroma) for disrespecting your region.
This is the true APC- the party of ungrateful leaders.
SHAME ON ALL MEMBERS OF THE APC NORTH AMERICA FOR SUPPORTING A PARTY THAT WILL NEVER BE THANKFUL TO THEM.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 22:41:35 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Mr Bangura,
I am going to be very nice to you and tell you to please be quiet and fast again another thirty days and ask for God's forgiveness. You spew quranic phrases and quote suras like an ascetic Imam, whlle your heart smokes with malice and atrocious ill will to your fellow man. You pray five times a day and yet take pleasure in the misery of others. I am not a member of the APC franchise in North America and yet I find your glee at what you believe to be the misfortune of others, wretched, childish and absurd. Not everyone expects to be named a minister as a result of their contributions. Taking part in the democratic process that kicked out a corrupt cabal is reward enough. For many patriots, an electrified, job-creating, economy-expanding, safe, peaceful and democratic Sierra Leone is sweeter than any personal aggrandizement. Please readjust your patriotism to altruism, sir.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 21:17:56 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Brabanxx@aol.com
Entered From: pool-72-82-165-200.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 72.82.165.200
Message:
Mr. Bangura I beg to differ with you on your characterization of HE EBK. In as much as it is true that the spoils are for the victor,in a situation like this, one should not expect the president to just appoint people because of their financial contributions alone. There are certain constitutional requirements that precluded members from the diaspora to be nominated to ministerial positions.One of which is that ministers and deputies should be registered voters. In one of my earlier posts I drew your attention to the fact that the constitution also precludes Mr. Margai from becoming a minister.
Twenty people from the the US went for symbols and sixteen were awarded. I don't think that was a bad representation considering the amount of people that were "home based." Most of the people in North America came into the political scene after the camp was loaded with home based die-hards. You will also agree with me Mr. Bangura that if the cabinet were filled with APC from the diaspora,you would have been the first one to cry foul-the cabinet was bought and sold by the APC in the diaspora. In the USA not all of the contributors to a political campaign get what they want. This is also true for Sierra Leone. At this point I will advise all APC North America members to take heart. Wata way nar for you e nor go run pass you.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 02:38:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
I think Alpha Saidu is a mischief maker. Firstly, has anyone complained to him about not being appointed to the cabinet? This is a very unintellegent glee. The APC, unlike the SLPP, is by far pro diasporas and knows how to look after its supporters. In contrast, the SLPP is anti -diaspora and needlessly practiced the politics of appeasement to the detriment of their own support base. The APC awarded the party symbols to 16 diasporean. The SLPP did not award symbol to a diasporean in the just concluded election. Correct me if i am wrong. One Kailahun lady in USA who made substantial contribution in community development in kailahun was a better candidate, but was fouled out by Dr Sama Banya in fauour of his home bases relative. I know several diasporeans who tried to secure the SLPP party symbols in kenema district but were all rebuffed. Alpha, you being a party faithful should be rather concerned with such didparaties.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:28:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Mr. nico:
I thoroughly agree with you that the New APC under President Koroma is pro-Diasporan while the defeated SLPP appeared anti-Diasporan.
I know this from intimate personal knowledge as I was an intended victim.
First, APC awarded its red rising-sun election logo to approximately 21 Diasporans from both North America and Europe - all of whom won and are sitting in parliament today. One unfortunately died in a road
accident with the late Mr. Kaloko.
SLPP, on the other hand, awarded its palmtree symbol to only one Diasporan, a lady, Ms. Kowa, who won in Bumpeh, Bo District. But that is not all.
In the unreasonable and crooked events leading up to the notorious, gangster-like SLPP Makeni ConBention in September 2005, the SLPP-NEC that conducted that rouge affair had at its first meeting in four yearts in July 2005 at the Bank of Sierra Leone Complex at Kingtom, passed an anti-Diasporan resolution to bar non-resident party members(i.e.Diasporans)from holding certain high party positions(including the party leader, party chairman, secretary-general and similar positions), until they have returned home and established residence there for up to at least five years.
However, this resolution requires a second passing and by a subsequent party NEC. This never occurred.
And at one-or-two campaign stops in the provinces that I attended, I heard speakers demanding from the floor that no non-resident member should be given the party symbol to contest parliamentary seats because only those at home are with the people. But this mentality is changing and no one was denied the palmtree symbol merely because of his diasporan status. In fact, a Diasporan nearly won the palmtree symbol for the parliamentary seat in Sumbuya, Bo District.
Let's hope that all our leaders and our people will see the immense value of including all SLeoneans equally in the huge task of bringing sustainable progress to our country. - JL
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: poorman
To: All
Date Posted: 21:11:04 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: manso@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-72-66-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.26.251
Message:
SAIDU,1.WE NOR TO TEGLOMA 2 WE NOR PUT WE KUPUR FOR LEH E GEE WE POSITION 3 WAY SALEONE BETEH WE GO APPY 4 WE NOR DEA PLAN FOR BEAT WE YESTERDAY EN TEDAY LEADER DEM 5 USE DIS MOT MOT FOR MAK YOU BRODER DEN NOR BEAT WE EX PRESIDENT.6 WAYTIN HAPPEN WIT DE SPORT EN DIPLOMATIC PASSPORT BLUFF.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 20:39:34 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
I don't know what may or may not have been promised, but it would be impossible for the president to repay all of his supporters with positions. The greatest way he can "pay back" those who supported him is by doing a good job and not betraying their confidence by not being a good steward over the countries resources.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Looking in
To: All
Date Posted: 20:12:10 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: nc-76-0-177-82.dhcp.embarqhsd.net at 76.0.177.82
Message:
The emphasis you place on who was given prime positions is sad. All Sierra Leoneans are in the position to contribute to their country and to contribure well. Positive politics is a good thing. If you have beef with your President, then support your party of choice, democratically, in the next election.
Subject: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 19:03:24 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
SEE THE ANSWER AND ANALYSIS ON THE WEBSITE PROVIDED BELOW: http://www.OneSaloneNews.com
Subject: Re: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 01:51:48 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.106
Message:
Let's assume that what EBK term as a 'government of national unity' is not what we all had in mind. The magnitude of expectation may have been hyped. Perhaps, the term may have its rightful meaning when it comes to the distribution of dupty ministerial positons. But let's face it, what contibution did the SLPP made in APC election victory? It will portray some kind of deficiency in EBK's self confidence and command of leadership to even consider an unnecessary overture as rewarding the SLPP with ministerial positions as many of its folks were hoping.Rewarding them for what? For 'OPINKOL' politics! Bo Duya! It's winner takes all, remeber!
Subject: Re: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:54:36 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
EBK three foot you? You haven't seen nada... You just begin complain...You were the same dude calling the SLPP a tribalistic Party. In the APC proposed cabinet: there is no Easterner, and one southerner...
See how many people have lost their jobs already to Norterners is Freetown.
Subject: Re: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 22:54:19 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
The statistical tribal distribution of the population at large and that within the parties cannot allow for the balance some expected.
Besides, it does not matter who is minister and who is not. It is a matter of who will change the bottomline.
I don't care if you are a high school dropout or from the minority Loko tribe.
Subject: ATITI DA DA DA MAO MAO OH
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 18:50:04 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ewkY1JBTOgE
Celebrating our beautiful culture.
Subject: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Awareness Times
To: All
Date Posted: 18:45:33 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 196.44.99.114
Message:
Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher at Lungi
By Awareness Times
Oct 14, 2007, 23:07
The Editor of Cocorioko is hereby being kindly asked to IMMEDIATELY remove the article he has placed on his front page which said article is completely full of inaccuracies and misquotations concerning the friendly meeting between the Publisher of this newspaper and Mr. Alex Mansaray at Lungi Airport two days ago. It will also do that editor well as a self-professed Man of God, to reflect on his sustained publication of a wicked litany of lies against the Publisher of this newspaper who has, to her deep credit, mostly ignored his penchance for publishing dangerous, hate-filled and inciteful false articles against her person.
Alex Mansaray is a gentleman who was meeting Awareness Times Publisher for the second time. The first time was during a visit to one of her Internet Cafes during which they had a nice rapport.
"The only reference I made to Alex Mansaray about Cocorioko at Lungi Airport, was to describe it as a 'lie-lie' newspaper that has sought times without number to demean me in the eyes of the public! I never spoke about their role in the APC let alone congratulated Cocorioko for its role in the just ended elections during which period he published unprintable LIES about me and my personal life. LIES, which I carefully ignored. I have bitten my tongue and placed my trust in God just as I have done all these years when Cocorioko released ceaseless lies against me to the public domain," Sylvia Blyden asserts.
If the Cocorioko Editor does not know it, THERE IS A GOD IN THIS WORLD and the Almighty's wrath, when he exercises it, against deserving people like the Cocorioko Editor, is a thing to be feared.
© Copyright by Awareness Times Newspaper in Freetown, Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Cocorioko's Publication
To: All
Date Posted: 18:49:53 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 196.44.99.114
Message:
The Editor of Cocorioko , Rev. Wilfred Leeroy Kabs-Kanu, certifies before the Almighty God, that everything written in this article is a complete and correct rendition of the report made to COCORIOKO by the CEO , Mr. Alex Mansaray . Mr. Mansaray asked that it be published. As he always does, the Editor asked Mr. Mansaray TWICE whether he should publish the article .Each time, Mr. Mansaray said "Oh , yes , go ahead. That was exactly what transpired .She even took pictures of us ". There are other aspects of the story that we did not publish because the Editor deemed it PRIVILEDGED CONVERSATION .
Until Alex Mansaray calls to say that we should remove it, we will not adhere to the threats by the AWARENESS TIMES . Miss Blyden should contact Mr. Mansaray , who was quoting her , not COCORIOKO. The Editor has known Alex Mansaray for years and he is not the type that will fabricate such a story. We , his friends, often taunt Alex that he is one man who does not "Crack his teeth" to say anything because he is not afraid of people. Alex always says it bluntly as it is, often even at his own detriment . The Editor consulted with Board Chairman before publishing this article and Foday Mansaray too gave the go-ahead.
AWARENESS TIMES PUBLISHER ACKNOWLEDGED COCORIOKO'S ROLE IN THE LAST ELECTIONS : SAYS CEO ALEX MANSARAY
The Chief Executive Officer of COCORIOKO , Mr. Alex Mansaray , said today that a most unlikely source acknowledged that Cocorioko did a good job during the just-ended Presidential Elections. The source is the AWARENESS TIMES PUBLISHER, DR. SYLVIA BLYDEN.
Mr. Mansaray made the statement while informing other executives of COCORIOKO that he has assured the Publisher of Awareness Times, Dr.Sylvia Blyden that the COCORIOKO newspaper does not have any vendetta against her or any citizen of the Republic of Sierra Leone .Mr. Mansaray said certain things however went wrong that should be resolved and set right
The two newspaper executives had a chance meeting at Lungi International Airport on Friday .Dr. Blyden was said to be on her way to Ghana and Mr. Alex Mansaray, who is also Proprietor of the Duty Free Shop at the airport, was in the company of the All People's Congress ( APC ) Secretary General , Mr. Victor Foh and party official, Mr. Bash Kamara at the VIP Lounge of the airport. Mr. Foh was travelling to Burkina Faso to attend that country's party celebrations.
Dr.Blyden moved over and greeted all of them and congratulated them for the recent APC victory. During their discussions later , Mr. Mansaray brought the topic of the three-year-old misunderstanding between the Awreness Times Publisher and Cocorioko Editor, Rev. Wilfred Kabs-Kanu and the matter of the spoofing of the Cocorioko Forum.
Dr. Blyden denied spoofing the COCORIOKO FORUM and said that the allegation was an attempt by the COCORIOKO Editor to besmear her,
Mr. Alex Mansaray then told the publisher that the Cocorioko Editor and the newspaper had no vendetta against her or any citizen of the Republic of Sierra Leone. The paper criticises people in the interest of the nation , not out of vendettas. .He said that the COCORIOKO Editor is a Minister of the gospel and has assured him many times that he has no evil intent towards the publisher. Mr. Foh agreed with Mr. Mansaray that the Editor was a "religious man" and a gentleman .Mr. Mansaray stated that something however went wrong and this has to be resolved and set right.
The Awareness Times Publisher too assured Mr. Mansaray that she had nothing against the Cocorioko Editor or his newspaper..
Dr.Blyden said that Cocorioko did a good job in the recent APC victory .She congratulated the paper's CEO for a job well done. in helping the APC win the election.
The Editor of Cocorioko and the paper's Board Chairman, Mr.Foday Mansaray , were briefed by Alex Mansaray about the chance meeting between him and and the Awareness Times Publisher, Dr.Sylvia Blyden at Lungi Airport
MEANWHILE, Mr. Alex Mansaray has called on APC supporters, especially those in the diaspora to be patient with the government .He said that the cabinet announced by the President , Mr.Ernest Koroma, truly reflected the APC and everybody will have access to the power structure .
Also , Mr. Foday Mansaray agreed with Alex Mansaray that "All of us " have to be patient with the new government under these difficult circumstances. The President, he said, had many problems when he looked at the list of qualified persons for positions.. SEE TOMORROW'S ISSUE FOR MORE OF FODAY MANSARAY'S STATEMENT. Web site designed & hosted by Leeroy Wilfred Kabs-Kanu © 2007 at Homestead™
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Man of Honor
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Date Posted: 10:46:51 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Ehmm, kabs-Kanu, I am sure you should know better. In america, you could be sued for Libel if Sylvia insists that she didnt make those statements. Just because your publisher/owner/CEO said so, does not imply that you have the right to publish something about somebody without first verifying/crosschecking with that individual.I would have first contacted Sylvia before going to press. Mind you, you, Alex etc are all part of cocorioko. Therefore, there is no independent individual to authnticate your assertions. I will suggest that you apologise to her or make a disclaimer. This is what a good journalist will do. Please dont ban me for disagreeing with you.
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Transmission Errors
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Date Posted: 19:03:58 10/14/07 ()
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Third Party Recounts can have transmission errors.
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Not always
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Date Posted: 19:24:39 10/14/07 ()
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If Sylvia praised Cocorioko's role, there is no transmission problem. You either praise or blame. Certain issues are nay or yay.
Subject: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: N'tara
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Date Posted: 18:38:31 10/14/07 ()
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A lot of failures can be attributed to Tejan Kabba for the past 11 years rule of Sierra Leone. That is fact and part of history. Nonetheless, nobody can take away from him the fact that he is one of African heads of state, who did not tinker with the constitution to keep himself in power. He could have done that some years back if he was planning to stay in power after his two terms, but didn't. Look at Sitka Steven, Yayah Jameh, Hugo Chavez, Robert M. of Zimbabwe and many more who tinkers with the constitution just to stay in power till their death.
If you don't have right atmosphere and infrastructure for democracy in the country, such election will never be conducted.
So deserve to be praised for that if nothing else. I think that he deserves to be praised for establishing NASSIST, NRA and may be NACSA.
I hope that the new government will improve these institutions and create new ones.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 22:42:28 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
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Kabbah had no way to tamper with the constitution nor extend his stay. Sierra Leone is a very conscious nation today. We eye done open.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 23:37:40 10/14/07 ()
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Response to your points:
1."That does not hide the fact that his government was extremely corrupt...”
Response: Nobody is objecting the corruption issue. We know that and a lot have been said about it. But he also deserves credit for not tinkering with the constitution to stay in power. Many other presidents have done it in the past and some are still doing it. Look at Lansana Conteh in Guinea. How long has he been president?
2. "NASSIT, NRA, NACSA what difference have these organizations made to the life of the average Sierra Leone apart from lining up the pockets of the various heads and their cronies.
Response: Yes some people are benefiting from it right now. Some citizens that have reached the age of retirement are receiving the benefit. Infact some people who never contributed to the fund are benefiting from it. Even parents of high level APC members have benefited and are still benefiting from it. I don't have to name names.
3. Even if Kabbah wanted to cling on to power Berewa would have prevented him from doing so.
Response: That is hard to believe. Let us give him credit that he did not try to do so at all. Many other leaders have done that and yet some are still doing it now and yet nothing is happening. Look at what Obasajo did to his VP and how the election went down in Nigeria. Let us talk about his short falls as well as his strength.
4. The man wanted power so bad that he could taste it...Babu Yie OH :-)
Response: What is your proof? Is that just your opinion?
5. Kabbah had no way to tamper with the constitution nor extend his stay.
Response: There are a lot of ways; he did not just try one because, he was not interested.
6. Sierra Leone is a very conscious nation today. We eye done open.
Response: I know that we are a conscious nation today. Yet still there are many more conscious nations where the leader are so much power conscious, that they are doing everything in their power to keep themselves in power. Kabba did not just try to do that. Give him that credit.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: David Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:40:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: saloneloudmouth@yahoo.com
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NRA is a total scam. When did you visit SL last. Ask me, I can tell you every day tale of NRA pocketing in millios of leones - with proof of names.
And who told you NASSIT pays retirement benefits. NAME JUST ONE PERSON. As per their law, the first set of pensioners will commence only from 2010. Yes Ex Pr. Kabbah used NASSIT to help and bale out his pal Sam King by asking NASSIT to take a share in his doomed hotel. He tried the same with DATATEL but Rokel Bank stopped it. Dont even try in the least to praise Kabbah or his government.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 01:01:36 10/16/07 ()
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Since 2003 I have been visiting Sierra Leone every year. I normally visit for 2 months (March and April) each year. The corruption is undeniable!!! And as someone who has planned to go back home in 2009 to resettle, I wasn’t happy overall. As a potential business man, I know the hurdles, red tapes, bureaucracies and corruptions one has to go through to establish a business. No help at all.
However, what I am pointing out is that these institutions have been created. A patriotic and visionary leader can improve these institutions and make them very productive for the benefit of the country.
The main point I stressed is that with all the corrupt practices, yet HE DID NOT TINKER WITH THE CONSTITUTIN TO KEEP HIMSELF IN POWER.
As for NASSIST, you will get the fact later. But I know that some people who are 60 years plus are receiving some benefit right now.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 19:13:09 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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That does not hide the fact that his govenment was extremely corrupt.. NASSIT, NRA, NACSA what difference have these organisations made to the life of the average Sierra Leone apart from lining up the pockets of the various heads and their cronies. Even if Kabbah wanted to cling on to power Berewa would have prevented him from doing so. The man wanted power so bad that he could taste it...Babu Yie OH :-)
Besides the eyes of the world were on Kabbah so he could not have even dreamed of hanging on after his evident catastrophic failure.
Subject: Solo B CARELESS TALK NOR DAE PAY!!!!
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:50 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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For those of us who were present a couple of years ago when Solo B was addressing some members of the Sa. Leone community in London he wrecklessly uttered that those who were not prepared to go back to Sa. Leone would languish here; whilst completely ignoring protestations about the lack of electricty and running water. In a similar gathering in Ohio a young lady commented on the filthy state of Freetown and asked what the government was doing about it. Solo B's reply was 'WE ARE NOT CLEANERS' A very iresponsible reply from someone aspiring to be president. The moral of the story is that IF YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO SAY; SAY NOTHING.
Subject: Jebbor Sherrington - Leone Stars Coach Sacked
From: freetong pikin
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Date Posted: 14:42:05 10/14/07 ()
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Sierra Leone coach John Jebbor Sherington and his entire technical staff have been relieved of their duties with immediate effect.
The sackings came two days after the Leone Stars lost to Benin in their final Nations Cup qualifying match on Friday.
Read more
http://www.salonepeople.com/
Subject: Re: Jebbor Sherrington - Leone Stars Coach Sacked
From: GEORGE S. WILSON
To: All
Date Posted: 08:12:58 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: samtheman1957@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-166-138-63.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.166.138.63
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I wellcome the new minister of sports,DR,MINKAILU BAH.I have been praying that we know who will be our next sports minister,because of that south africa worldcup qualifying matches.SIERRA LEONE can make it to SOUTH AFRICA if the new bomber can work with good men and women.MR.MINISTER,IF YOU CAN TAKE SIERRA LEONE TO SOUTH AFRICA,YOU WILL GO DOWN IN THE GOOD BOOK OF ALL SIERRA LEONEANS.
Subject: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Nar Me
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:58 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: the newsletter@hotmail.com
Entered From: amontsouris-152-1-27-15.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr at 82.123.93.15
Message:
"Mr. Corruption" is definitely the killer.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 22:48:50 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
Tejan Kabbah and Co; for the execution of Kullah Samba, Max Kanga and all those who were merely required by thier station of duty to serve a military government that kicked him out.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Salone Boy
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Date Posted: 15:15:01 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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TEJAN KABBAH for grossly letting the people of Sierra Leone down. For ignoring widespread corruption in his government and neglecting the needy citizens of the country. If he has any conscience he will have the decency to beg the people for forgiveness.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: DEMOCRAT
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Date Posted: 18:07:03 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Tejan Kabbah has been named by the APC "SIerra Leone's father of democracy". A man who has retired twice. Once from the United Nations as UNDP's Director of Management Services with a very fat pension for life and just recently as a rare breed of Sierra Leone's democratically elected president for two terms.
Those who the Almighty Himself has blessed no mortal can pull down. Kabbah is now part of Sierra Leone's history. If e hart u, go drink gbamgba!
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 20:32:46 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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Lets be very mature about this my friend; I could care less about how many times he has retired; that still does not hide the fact that he let the country down through poor management and thats why the people have spoken and booted him and his cronies out. And if you think its over you wait till the special court lay their hands on him we would see if he has indeed been blessed by the Almighty.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: DEMOCRAT
To: All
Date Posted: 17:56:38 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Tejan Kabbah was not booted out. He successfully served two terms as president. Berewa just didn't click as there was need for generational change and the APC implemented a better campaign strategy.
When George Bush Snr lost to Bill Clinton that wasn't Reagan that got booted by Americans or Al Gore's losing to President Bush meant a 'kita' for Clinton. No!
Your wish to see Kabbah face the Special Court is another fairy tale. The court has already indicted those it believes bear the greatest responsibility for crimes commited during the rebel war. Kabbah was not among that class and there is certainly no indication that the court will open any new indictments. In fact it cannot under the circumstance and this makes your wish for Kabbah a mirage.
Let's get this straight: leaders don't get everything right. Reagan did not, Margaret Thatcher didn't, not even Bill Clinton did, and of course Kwame Nkrumah certainly did not get everything right. Sometimes they achieve, on other issues they don't. Kabbah made a huge success by ending a war he had inherited and brought about peace to Sierra Leone after a decade of cataclysmic and horrendous fighting among sierra Leoneans. Tell me he did not succeed on that score! When he came to power by 1996 government was neither visible nor present in much of the country. During his tenure government became present everywhere in the country.
At the time he came to power the situation in sierra leone was in such an abysmal state that efforts to lift it can only be appreciated if you understood from what depths the country had emerged.
The manner in which the just-ended elections was managed is due not to any other person's ability but due largely to the kind of political climate cultivated by Kabbah's leadership. In modern day african political context Kabbah came way before his time. He is examplary.
About the lives of politicians and how they get assessed and evaluated, this is deja vu. All politicians ( I mean political leaders of Kabbah's stature) end in failure. But it is the difference they make in the lives of the people they lead that matters. Tell me that Kabbah made no difference in the lives of Sierra Leoneans during his tenure.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 20:17:31 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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Kabbah by no means ended the war. Tony Blair ended the war in Sa. Leone; if not for his intervention I would hate to think what would have become of our beloved nation. I know Kabbah would like to take credit for ending the war and one day he will wake up and realise he is dreaming. If the likes of Late Hinga Norman were not determined enough Kabbah would have stayed in Guinea and not bothered to come back.
In terms of Kabbah making a difference in the lives of the ones he led you only have to poll 10 random people on the streets of Freetown and if you are honest enough if I challenge you to publish the results on this forum.
Subject: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 13:14:33 10/14/07 ()
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My fellow compatriots, I am comming to you from Sierra Leone, the home base.
I have been here since last thursday observing Sierra Leone and checking out important personalities in the APC government. Part of my reason for comming here is to be present at the start of things and to associate with the right personalities so that when I retire in one and half years and finaly return home it would generally be a smooth sailing for me.
I was also looking at the prospect of serving in the new government but was late to arrive. Any way, I met one on one with the President and have pictures for verification. I informed him that if he needs me I will cut short my stay and return home expeditously.
He gave me his word and that is all I need.
Serving as a Minister is not the only way to serve Sierra Leone. I will offer my service to the government at any time in what ever capacity as long as it is ready and genuinely committed to positive development.
I believe that the government of Sierra Leone under his excellency Ernest Koroma is committed and it has been quick to show signs as such.
I was present at Alpha Khans office when he escorted delegates back to lungi who together with the President inspected Sierra Leone's electrical equipments.
The President means business and he is waisting no time to implement major aspects of his plan including the provision of adequate electric supply.
It is no brainer to conclude that the standard of living and social conditions would be tremendously helped when good electric supply is available in the country.
The President would win even the hearts and minds of diehard SLPP supporters when he would have accomplished his plans.
The mood is excellent in Freetown and business is booming as usual.
I am on an observer mission and exploring the business environment. You do not need a lot of money here to do business. But you need discipline and some knowledge of record keeping and of course locat1on is key.
For those of you planning to do business in Sierra Leone this is the right time to come. When we would have had good electric supply the cost of doing business would be lower. Instead of generators and huge expenditures on gasoline we would have monthly electric bills at far lower cost.
Sierra Leoneans are survivalists. Everywhere you go you will find businesses of some sort. There are carpenters making furnitures including living room sets and china cabinets, welders and traders all over. They use labor intensive methods and crude instruments to do their job.
But the City in general is one hub of a mess and it is overpopulated.
It is hoped that with electricity provided by Bumbuna Power station in the future and a succesful agricultural development scheme migrants would find it attractive to return home.
I have just conpleted an artricle titled 'STRATEGIC DECISION MAKING AND TYPYA BUDGETING FOR INNOVATION IN AGRICULTURE'. I will publish it in two parts on 'We Yone Press' starting tommorrow. This is one of my contribution to the government. I am responding to Ernest Koroma's call for ideas.
You too can make a difference if you want. This is the time for all Sierra Leoneans to come together and pull together resources for positive development.
Dont be a nobody. Participate in nation building in what ever way you can and you or your children will surely reap the benefit.
God bless.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 13:51:24 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Alie Formeh,
You have a fan in me. Your honesty is really a blast of fresh air. While some people will lie about seeking a job, you do not beat about the bush or resort to subterfuge. You state your true intentions, because you only have altruistism in your heart for your country. May you be called upon to render your service to country either in govt or business.
Pray tell the Prez and his inner circle, that they can help clean the filth in Freetown by employing the many unemployed youths milling aroumd Freetown to clean up the garbage and gutters. That act alone will ensure a cleaner city and a cash-happy youth in time for Christmas.
We are glad that the President is already clapping on the electricity business. Keep up the good work in informing us.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 15:49:13 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Mammy Blessings , As I told you yesterday , before ALI Formeh's honest assessment. If you visit Sierra Leone, you will see that business is booming. The shops are full with goods. This has to do with the positive climate created by the former SLPP. Prosperity would trickle down to the poor masses from the entrepreneurs.
The govt is not going to solve the nation's problems solely. All they can do is to create a conducive society in which individuals can release their talents without fear of repression. Just look at the development the Sierra Leone music industry over the past five years.
I hope the APC/PMDC can allow democracy and a positive business environment. Unfortunately most of the people in diaspora criticising SLPP had not been to Sierra Leone in a while to see the changes that took place.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 17:13:29 10/14/07 ()
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I'm obviously not going to question your strong support for SLPP, but I would say your opinion on booming business due to SLPP positive climate they created.
My friend, I travelled to Sierra Leone twice every year to start with and no the business culture have always been there it was never the work of your incompetent SLPP. Can you remember during the peaceful days? when there was business boom, it was evident everywhere you go in Sierra Leone that business was the sole biggest employer of the average Sierra Leonean.
Most of your assessments and others were limited only in the capital Freetown.
I wish during the time before the war you were priviledged to visit the provincial cities so you could have being the judge to this that during the past ten years, business slowed down.
The booming business you're seeing now is only limited in the capital.
So cut that crap of SLPP creating a climate for business.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:48:25 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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you are right, the comments are based on my visit to Freetown in July and unfortunately I did not get the chance to go the provinces. I know you hate to give SLPP any credit but it was under their watch that peace was obtained. This fragile peace has allowed businesspeople to invest, mainly foreigners and foreign based Sierra Leoneans.Finally under their watch there was a democratically held election in which the opposition won both houses. This only augurs well for potential investment in Sierra Leone.
Hate them or not under SLPP peace was acheived and democracy maintained. It's up to APC to continue the good work.
Sierra Leoneans are entrepreneurs but the govt has to create a fertile environment in which sierra leonean entrepreneurs can flourish.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:02:34 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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It's true I hate to give SLPP credit that's because they badly betrayed my trust and the peace we are enjoying today was achieved during the SLPP rule. But the you'll agree with me now or later that peace was already due after the rebels and the breakaway SLA realised that the west is strongly opposed to their inhumane tactics and that there was no prospect for them to assume power, then they decided to accept the offer of a peace deal with government.
So the peace could have been achieved by any government at that time. It's not a miracle work by the SLPP.
In the issue of free and fair elections, well you know what, they had no choice but to allow this decision to take place. After their their disgraceful handling of the country with no care or respect for the people they know any attempt to stop changes taking place could spell untold desaster knowing that they've being hated by the masses.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 13:48:03 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Thank you AFK:
I was signing off to head to church when I saw your inspirational posting.
I will surely have you, the President and our people back home in my prayers.
I wish there were more postings like yours on the forum. Don't know if you are a member or supporter of any party, but it is clear that you put country above party affiliation. I happen to support the Opposition party, but consider Ernest Koroma my President and his government my government. I would even serve(as you hoped to do) this government because by doing so I would be contributing in some way to the welfare of my country.
Let this serve as an appeal to all of us on this forum to put partisanship aside and strive to do whatever we can to help the government succeed in its national agenda. If the government so succeeds we all profit because our individual and collective interests are inextricably linked to the nation.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Sanfa
To: All
Date Posted: 15:50:49 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alie is a supporter and in fact the son of an ex-APC minister in the 70's, Late Formeh Kamara minister of labour. I admired him for his honesty.
Subject: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: Borbor- Leon
To: All
Date Posted: 11:42:29 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: s.l.bangs@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac27dee.bb.sky.com at 90.194.125.238
Message:
Haven lived and worked in most parts of Sierra Leone and in few countries in the diaspora, I always find it challenging to get my head round the assumption that- are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough? Knowledge gained from my experience and discussions held with various individuals have still fall short to provide me with the answer to this conspiracy.
The following are my assumptions-------
We've got problems with identity- we like to re- create ourselves to somebody or something else. Majority of Sierra Leoneans have been misled or brain washed by the few educated and previleged class.
Most Sierra Leoneans are selfish and greedy.
It has to do with our culture- paternalism, nepotism etc.
Sierra Leoneans prefer to work with individuals from other nationalities than his/ her country person- this assumption has been proven by many individuals I have spoken to in both Sierra Leone and in the diaspora.
What do you think? Is this assumption right or wrong?
Subject: Re: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 13:05:45 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Your first assumption captures the problem: Sierra Leoneans do not have a sufficiently strong sense of national idenity. Many of our problems-- some of which you list (both collecive and individual) flow from this anomaly.
In a nutshell, Sierra Leone has yet to evolve into a viable "national society". The good thing, there are clear resons why, so the solutions are not impossible to find. (I have read ahead, and Alieu Iscandri has come up with a few that address this issue). The key is not only the necessary political will, but the loyalty of the political elite and active participation of the people in what I will refere to as "building the nation".
Thanks for your views; they are on target.
Subject: Re: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 12:59:20 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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This is a subject I have grappled with for years. First off, I believe that Sierra Leoneans are incredibly patriotic, fiercely proud of their country and of their national heritage. Most Sierra Leoneans I know identify as Sierra Leoneans first, before their specific tribe. That being said, there are a number of factors that would make us appear unpatriotic. I will try to tackle them one at a time:
(a) Hospitality Culture - Most of our indegenous cultures put a high premium on welcoming "strangers". In my many visits to the provinces, I found this trait across all regions, sometimes to the point of embarrassment where people would give up the choiciest pieces of meat, palm-wine, even their own beds for the visitor. And back then, it was done with no expectation of a reward. It was just how people believed a visitor should be treated. In our mordern world, this deference to "strangers/visitors" has translated to how we treat "foreigners".
(b) Indegenous leadership culture - Our indegenous system of government gave absolute power to the chiefs and their families. In some cultures, the chief was a almost at par with the deity. Not unlike England, power was heriditary and absolute. With no revolutionary change in representation prior to colonial rule, the new colonial masters were simply regarded as "white" chiefs with absolute power and commanding the respect and homage of the masses. I will come back to how this impacted our sense of patriotism further in this analysis.
(c) Colonialism and missionaries - Enough has been said about the European colonial policy of divide and rule. It was not unique to Sierra Leone and its effects are still being felt all over Africa in senseless civil wars derived from forcing people to live within national boundaries drawn in Europe. A more subtle effect was the influence of the missionaries who made it their business to give young children so-called "christian" names, to replace their indegenous african names for reasons I still fail to comprehend. To this day, visa and passport application forms in Sierra Leone still ask for a "christian" name. The point here is that those with "christian" names began to achieve a higher status in the communities because they were perceived to be closer to God and the missionaries.
(d) Colonial administration and the influence of the krios - One of the factors that compounded the effects of colonialism in Sierra Leone was the resettlement of freed slaves in Freetown. As colonial rule began to fall out of favor in the mid 1930's the British colonial administrators had a ready made cadre of africans to hand over government responsibilities to. The krios were considered by the Brits to be "our guys" in Sierra Leone and indeed krios were sent to Gambia, Ghana and Nigeria as administrators. The masses viewed the krios as being interchangeable with the white leadership class (especially with their english names, mode of dress, and relative prosperity)and therefore deserving of the respect typically accorded to chiefs. Again, what we see happening here is the elevation of non-indegenes above indegenes reinforcing the image that a stranger/foreigner provides better quality leadership. That the krios subsequently squandered and abused this relationship is a whole other story.
(e) The nationalization/indegenization of Sierra Leone political landscape - Post colonization, the white men had gone, their krio proteges had been marginalized, and the indegenes were in power. Neither the governors, nor the governed could distinguish between a functional democracy and a traditional fiefdom. All praise and honor went to the president (beginning with Siaka Stevens). He was, essentially, the Queen of England. His portrait appeared everywhere, bank notes, coins, stamps, you name it. The machiavellian Stevens exploited tribal sentiment to the fullest. In addition to this, sub-standard work performance began to be tolerated in the civil service and crept into the private sector. The Brits had absolute authority, and no tribal affiliations. They hired and fired based on competence. The indegenes could not or would not exercise such independence. In any case, the "chief" needed to take care of his "subjects". Instead of giving them a goat or chicken, he could give them a job in the civil service. And if they misbehaved and he was forced to take disciplinary action, a legion of family members would come and beg for forgiveness. The slow slide into non-accountability had begun. So it happened that the hopes of the unconnected/unaffiliated masses were dashed, because even though "we" were in charge, we were worse of than under the terrible Brits and thier krio district officers! So once again, foreigners started looking a lot more attractive than our compatriots.
(f) Economic ruin and the rise of the JC's - Well, we all know what happened in post-1980 Sierra Leone after the OAU. Unprecedented economic hardship completely eroded the middle class and morale of the nation. Everyone below the age of 25 wanted to get out as fast as possible and never return. There was no hope or future in remaining in Sierra Leone. The few that got out, wrote back letter telling stories of faraway lands flowing with milk and honey. They visited at Christmas showing off everyday items that were now luxuries in Sierra Leone. Some even came back with foreign accents that solidified the belief that anything local was inferior. Having travelled abroad was now considered to be a qualification, irrespective of what, if anythng, was actually achieved while abroad.
To some up my longest posting ever - all of these factors have created a perception in 2007 Sierra Leone that non-Sierra Leoneans run things better and are more trustworthy than our kith and kin.
Subject: Re: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 12:40:17 10/14/07 ()
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All your assumptions can be applied to most other nationals. It is hardly a unique predisposition of Sierra Leoneans. The more economically distressed a country is, the more likely some of its citizens will be less enthusiastic about it. However, some of us will never be ashamed of our beautiful Salone. We will always work to make it better until we die, when we hope our bones will be laid to rest in the land of our ancestors.
Subject: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
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Date Posted: 11:28:19 10/14/07 ()
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I woke up this morning only to read on Cocorioko that my long-term musical star, Dr. Oloh has passed away into the land of our silent ones. As recently as last evening, I was playing Dr. Oloh's music to assuage my anxieties after running into a traffic jam that barely crawled. The authenticity in Dr. Oloh's music is as ever-green as it is Sierra Leonean. He sang in his native Krio tongue, and never sought to "modernize" {imitate?} Western musical tones with an English diction. Whenever he peppered his songs with English, Sierra Leonean themes and history could heard without doubt. Take the following words, for example:
"...boys and gals dem laf me den say I am a drunkard. Thank God I am a free born and Freetown is my colony. Everywhere I go sweety palmwine dae wait for me."
More admirable, Dr. Oloh's music was able to cross tribal lines with a stylish use of talent.
His music was well known for the Temne teaching in which he urged every young man to move on whenever a girl friend shows signs of jadedness. The last part of that Temne lesson ran thus.
"...komor konneh. Orlum or ti-dayrr". This roughly translates "make E go. Other wan go kam."
There is simply not enough space to appreciate this musical hero. Dr. Oloh has gone to join the ranks of nationalists like Bai Bureh, Sir Milton Margai and every deceased Sierra Leonean admired by this writer. Since he spoke Temne for musical purposes, "I Love You" from me to Dr. Oloh will be in Temne.
E botirr mu, Dr Oloh.
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: Gongoli
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Date Posted: 04:17:18 10/15/07 ()
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I was quite saddened to read about the untimely death of one of Siera Leones greatest musicians. Dr Oloh was a down-to-earth individual with a lot of charisma. He is one of the originals and I equate him with other top class Sierra Leone musicians like Salia Koroma, Calender, Pa Wilson, S E Rogie to name a few.
I also hope we can keep the music of these truly exemplary Sierra Leoneans alive by keeping an archive of their works. I have found it almost impossible to get any of Salia's music on tape or CD, and this would be a great loss if their music fades into the wind.
I wish to extend my deepest sympathy to his family and the rest of Sierra leone.
May his Soul Rest In Peace
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 17:36:11 10/14/07 ()
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May his soul rest in perfect peace!
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 12:16:50 10/14/07 ()
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What a touching tribute to Dr Oloh, Bra Enviable.
I know the great man is in the pantheon of Sierra Leonean Greats, making Heaven a little more joyous today. May God continue to favor him.
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 11:54:44 10/14/07 ()
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No doubt a legend in his own time! Just out of curiosity, id Dr Oloh create goombay music? I do not know of any other goombay artist.
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 12:31:52 10/14/07 ()
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KKW, That is a very good question. Being a child of the late 1960s, I do not have an authoritative answer to that question. However, Dr. Oloh, the man full of hints like "tap to me nor to married," and "Born pikin nor to married," was a legend in his own way.
I am actaully listening to him as I type this piece. Every African-American woman I have dated in this country knows about Dr. Oloh. I simply play his music with sickening frequency.
RIP, Dr. Oloh.
Subject: for Rev Kabs kanu
From: Pa Sorie
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Date Posted: 09:46:29 10/14/07 ()
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hey Rev. Will it possible to have a brief biographical info on the nominated ministers? thanks and have a blessed weekend.
Subject: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 08:54:47 10/14/07 ()
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After having thought about this long and hard, I have come to form an opinion about a possible solution to the FGM impassee. My solution is simple:
Every parent who has a child he/she wants to go through the procedure, should watch with that child, the documentary on the procedure by Dr. Olayinka Koso Thomas. After the review of the documentary, all participants would have to further undergo a therapy session on the merits and demerits of the surgery. This should be done at the Ministry of Health, either in Freetown or elswhere in the provinces. It should also be mandatory.
Secondly, every would be initiatee would have to sign a consent to surgery document after watching the documentary.Any consent signed by the initiatee must be countersigned by their parents, and any such consent to be valid must not have been obtained under duress of the proposed initiatee. Any consent obtained under duress is invalid. Any person who obtains any such consent under duress would be held criminally liable for practicing medecine without a license and be subject to penal as well as pecuniary sanctions.
No person under the age of consent (which in sierra leone is believe is 14), should be circumcised, with criminal sanctions for violations. The consent to surgery is a contract and therefore anyone who cannot be legally bound to a contract, or in the alternative whose contract may be legally voidable, cannot give such consent.
Further the government should also legislate that ONLY qualified medical doctors should be allowed to conduct the procedures and any violations of that law be sanctioned by imprisonment. (Now lets see them break their hippocratic oath)
The main purpose of this solution is that if we demystify the procedure and take it out of the realm of the "secret" society culture and make it an open medical issue, then people would become more aware of its ills.
Finally the government MUST charge a tax of 300,000 leones per initiatee and a waiting period of 9 months for an application process. All fees collected should then be ploughed in to a reeducation campaign.
SO WHATS YOUR TAKE ON THIS PRESSING ISSUE.
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
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Date Posted: 17:14:16 10/14/07 ()
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Just because Dr.olayinka Koso Thomas happens to be Sierra Leone's first sophisticated ABORTIONIST,I think that she certainly lacks moral credibility on the issue of Female Genital Mutilation.
Dr. Thomas is reknowned for KILLING Fetuses just as how Bundu Women are reknowned for Mutilating Living Girls.
Considering the complicity of her practice, I think that most Sierra Leoneans would rather choose LIFE OVER DEATH.
On the question of MORALITY and HUMAN RIGHTS also, Most Sierra Leoneans would neither support Abortion nor FGM.
Therefore I think that Anti FGM proponents like yourself should better reference your arguments on work produced by people not as questionable as Dr Olayinka Koso Thomas.
Nar Dr. Koso Thomas fos begin perform abortion wit machine pan woman dem nar salone en most of im patient dem nor able born again....
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 18:38:39 10/14/07 ()
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You may be right about the facts as you have stated them here, however I fail to see th relevance of your argument that because she as a mendical doctor performed abortions, she is therefore not a positive reference point on the issue of FGM.Furthermore, I do believe that the thrust of your argument is a non sequitur and it is dismissed intoto as not being relevant to the issue being discussed.
Sorry.
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 11:34:42 10/14/07 ()
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Kabor. The "death penalty" thing was a trick to bring you back to the forum. Oosai u wan go? U sef. U pass mark. The more Agbas on dee forum, the merrier.
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 11:13:17 10/14/07 ()
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Bondo is supposed to be a Secret Womens' Society.
What is done in any Secret society should be left there.
If the women want to change what they practice in their secret societies, then let it be decided and done alone by women of the tribes that practice it.
Bra M.A Iscandri, I don't know you but I somehow have respect for you. Can you imagine if everyone start exposing all what are done in our various SECRET Societies. Ojeh comes to mind. You won't be happy.
Let the women dictate what is done in their SECRET societies. We Men have NO BUSINESS in discussing what's done in a WOMEN's SECRET Society. As far as I know or aware about, I have never heard women discussing about rituals done in Exclusively MALE SECRET Societies.
Let the women deal with their stuff. That's what our Traditional customs call for.
In fact, some of the women are to blame for all these discussions. Female Secret Societies were normally entered into in tribal settings in the provinces where everyone knows and understands the customs. Once they started doing it in Freetown where there exists a melting pot of different cultures, then all hell started with hair-raising stories.
MY Appeal To ALL INDIGENOUS TRIBAL WOMEN who undergo their customary rites, IS TO PLEASE GO BACK TO THE PROVINCES IN YOUR USUAL TRIBAL SETTINGS and perform your rites of passage. FREETOWN is Cosmopolitan and it is not the right place to do such. If the educated ones who had undergone the processes done in the WOMEN's SECRET society want to do modifications / improvement / amendments, then let them do that discussion (education) with the ELDERS within the confines of these SECRET socities.
These days, everyone wants to afix things to Human rights. Not everything that works in the west is supposed to work everywhere else. There's a reason why you have variety of people and cultures in the world. It seems Nature doesn't want us all to do the same things. The Aboriginal Cultures, The Native Indian Cultures, the chinese cultures are all different and distinct.
Are we all in Freetown aware of the rituals in crowning a Chief? Do we all know what goes on in these tribal chiefdom secret societies? Maybe we may start crying about human rights abuses when we hear them.
Would we like to breakup all our Tribal customs when we'll hear about them, since majority of what's done in the provinces seems to be violation of human rights according to western perspectives? Is Sierra Leone ready to breakup all its provincial traditional customary rites in order to fit the western perspective of human rights?
Why is it that, a babygirl would be taken to a medical center and have her ear pierced without any recourse? Is it not also human right for that baby girl to make that decision when she is over 18 and considered an adult?
Why is it that a babyboy is circumcised at such a tender age without any recourse? Is it not also human right for that baby boy to make that decision when he is over 18 and considered an adult?
By going into this, we erode most customs of the world.
Let the Tribes decide their customary rites!!!!!!
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 09:50:31 10/14/07 ()
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I am opposed to FGM and will never allow my kids to go through the procedure. I come from a community where FGM is religion for the womenfolk. In a strange way, women look at FGM as an exercise of women's lib. It is women who are at the forefront for the preservation of this culture; they will exert a heavy political price from any politician who attempts to restrict the practice in any way. What makes the situation even more confused is that FGM is just one aspect of the training about various beneficial cultural aspects that young women are subjected.
If the country is really ready to stop FGM, all the political parties AND the paramount chiefs should agree on a common strategy, and embark on a massive education campaign about the medical and social problems of this problem, before enforcing restrictions or an outright ban..
FGM is a political bomb that can explode if handled crudely. Can you imagine a political party or a tribalistic chief telling his people that Party A or B wants to destroy Bondo as part of a grand strategy to eventually destroying the tribe? Very toxic, man.
Subject: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 08:25:40 10/14/07 ()
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Tribalism exists because of MISTRUST by one ribe for the other. The krios have suffered from tribalism more than any other tribe and in the same vein, have been not only victims but also perpetrators of tribalism just as any other.
I propose that this government and its educational ministry put together a program where students in JSS 1 (Form one for those of us who are "old school") should have a s a part of their curriculum, a choice to learn at least two sierra leonean languages from native speakers, prior to graduating into the SSS1 ( form 4 again for the old schoolers). Further a program should be designed to have students spend at least one summer program in a different tribal envionment and learn the culture of that environment and be able to communicate and thrive within that environment.
My reason for making this proposal is that when students learn about their cultural and language differences, then they learn to appreciate these differences and to RESPECT them. I was blessed to have experienced sierra leone from the perspective of all tribes and I must say that my appreciation for the beauty of my people does exist. I started my primary school career at RC school in YELE in the Gbonkolenken chiefdom and consider YELE my home. I spent my toddler years in BO. Went to school at schlenker in Port Loko. Lived in Kenema, visited Moyamba, Bo, Mongerie,makeni,sefadu, Tombodu,Kaima, Kania,Massingbe, the whole western area, Ro kontha, Ro bathebol, Kambia, Kabala, Kamakwei, Gbinti, marampa Masimera, matotoka, Magburaka, Kono, Taiama, Lived at Mile 91, visited Moyamba Junction, can show you where Gbonga Babay is on the map. I am very much from Foulah Town the greatest place in all of sierra leone. (My personal opinion).
My apreciation for the culturs of all of our people can only be summed up in one word RESPECT.
When Kwame Nkrumah became president of Ghana, he sought to create a Ghanian identity and this method he used. Today Ghanians consider them selves Ghanians rather than thier tribal afiliations.
If MY president should have a legacy, it must be one that will stand the test of time. Putting together a program where our future generations will recreate a new NATIONAL IDENTITY should be a high priority.
So whats your take?
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 10:14:14 10/14/07 ()
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Oremi Iscandri, Odowereh! Tribalism has become a problem in Sierra Leone simply because politicians believe that they can scrape political capital by exploiting it. Left to the ordinary people, the tribes get along just swell. The problem is that, it is the educated elite and the political class who exploit the issue especially during elections.
I like your ideas about educating our young ones about the importance of national identity. It does not mean that the tribe should be obliterated. It simply means that we can celebrate the tribe and still be passionate about the national thread that binds all of us in a common destiny.
By the way, Schlenker in Port Loko was my first job after I finished at FBC...Nice teachers college, very nice Lebanese ladies, but the PLACE TOO DRY AND GBENKA. Got paid three times in one year and had to skip town fast!
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Mohamed Yongawo
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Date Posted: 13:50:01 10/14/07 ()
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Mammy Blessing apart from your last sentence I could not have agreed with you more. Politics is what that brings out the tribe in people. We will get over it one day.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy
From: Democracy Now
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Date Posted: 15:34:32 10/14/07 ()
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Mamy Blessing, you are so right. Tribalism is a thing of the elite class in order for them to win political power. In terms of tribalism, the ordinary Sierra Leoneans are more tolerant than the elites. An elite always wants to know your second name to decide whether you should be a close friend or an opponent. Most graduates from the tertiary institutions in Sierra Leone graduate with tribalism and regionalism through student politics. Tribalism is hard to confront since the main agents of change are themselves the holders of it. The class room therefore, is not a role model.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Pa Sorie
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Date Posted: 09:40:15 10/14/07 ()
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Chief I support your points on the need to promote national unity and putting an end to the cankerworm that is tribalism, but if my memory serves me rights I think the position you are proposing is already in place, about school children studying one or two other languages. But I think intsead of starting it at JSS 1 why not start in primay school as these are the formative years in any child development.
Nice that you are back......
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Borbor- Leon
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Date Posted: 10:57:08 10/14/07 ()
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Iscandri, your opinion is very correct. We should be working toward establishing a Sierra Leone where every Sierra leonean thinks of themselves as Sierra Leoneans rather than thinking of themselves as separate entities that are determined by tribal affiliation,regionalism, social class, political memebership and religion. We need to promote the core values of nationhood- 'Sierra Leonness'.
Fortunately, there is framework incorporated in our school curriculum for indigenous languages to be taught in schools. Unfortunately, I'm not sure whether such framework had informed school practices in the past. As you're aware there are fundamental issues that had prevented such good initiative to created the intended outcome. Besides, I'll like to see such idea to be extended even further to include parents, community groups and society at large. Importantly, do we have the structure in place and the required resources that will ensure the promotion of such ideal. Or are we making unrealistic demands on our new president and government. I think most Sierra Leoneans are anxious to see positive results, which previous governments have denied us.
However, it is vital for the our new government and the people of Sierra Leone to establish a strong sense of Sierra Leonness- minimising tribal tensions in Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 13:16:28 10/14/07 ()
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I think it will be nice for kids to learn other indegenous SL languages, but does language = culture? I don't think so. Even though we speak several differentlanguages, we do apear to have very similar cultures. And I would venture to say that we have a certain respect for our cultures.
In any case, how do we choose which languages should be taught without alienting some kids? We talk about major ethnic groups being Mende, Temne, Limba and Krio, but what about the 12 or 13 other ethnic groups? Its a slippery slope.
I hate to say it, but strong national identities tend to be formed when a nation goes to WAR against another nation. Take Germany, Japan and the good old USA. Strong national identity, shameful history of waging war. Canada on the other hand is basically a pacifist nation, with no strong national Canadian identity. But it works.
Rather than focussing on language, I would suggest aomething simlar to a history/civics class that teaches different Sierra Leonean cultures. I would also encourage students with common heritages to showcase their heritage in plays or extra-curricular activities. But a mandatory indegenous language class? I think thats a bit too much.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 14:05:43 10/14/07 ()
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In any case, how do we choose which languages should be taught without alienting some kids? We talk about major ethnic groups being Mende, Temne, Limba and Krio, but what about the 12 or 13 other ethnic groups? Its a slippery slope.
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It is simple. Have the kids CHOOSE w2hich language they would like to speak and bring in native speakers of that language to teach a class once or twice a week. Examination on the languyages would be oral. The idea is to have a kid express himself in a language other than the language of their birth. This is a perfect segway into the idea of a mandatory "NATIONAL SERVICE" WHICH IS AN IDEA THAT IS BEING PRESENTED BY THE TRANSITIONAL TEAM for college students.
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I would suggest aomething simlar to a history/civics class that teaches different Sierra Leonean cultures. I would also encourage students with common heritages to showcase their heritage in plays or extra-curricular activities
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You suggestion is within the scope of possibilities. However your suggestion may not be enough to properly teach kids how to appreciate the other tribes cultures and mores. Encouraging students of Limba origin to stage a play in Limba, would be interesting however encouraging a child born to creole parents to PARTICIPATE in a play in limba would enhance that childs understanding of Limba much miore so than his or her passive incvolvement in beiung a member of the audience with no knowledge of what is being said.
I hope you get the picture. The Goal is to create an undersatnding of other language and tribal groups to ENHANCE our NATIONAL IDENTITY.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Bobor
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Date Posted: 23:57:36 10/14/07 ()
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Krio is not one of the MAJOR ETHNIC GROUP in Sierra Leone. Krio as an ethnic group in Sierra Leone is small, but the Krio Language is commonly spoken. That is the fact.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 00:48:46 10/15/07 ()
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Good point except that you are looking at it from the point of view of numbers. In terms of the number of people that speak krio, it is a major of ethnic group if not the most major ethnic group in sierra leone. Therefore I ask that you pardon this small mistake because it helped me make my point.
stay blessed
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Olu Beckley
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Date Posted: 15:48:37 10/14/07 ()
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Allieu’s point of incorporating local language education in our schools makes sense. The idea of having a National Youth Corps Service is also another way of introducing our youth to the cultural variations within our society and developing that sense of national identity. It is working well for Nigeria and can work for us too.
I am blessed to have had people like Mamy Mary at the St. Patrick’s School Bonthe; Teacher Gbondo of the RC School Kabala; Headmaster Turay of the RC school Port Loko who impacted and shaped my world and I can truly say my I am a better person because of their influence. My knowledge of Sierra Leone and the variety it presents comes from the opportunities I had to live and school in Freetown; Port Loko; Kabala; Musaia; Magburaka; Torma Bum; Bonthe and Makeni; said mass every other Sunday in Mokanji; Mongere; Gondama, Gendema and Gbap; spent holidays in Mattru Jong; Solon; Bendu Cha; Sulima; Gbondapi; Mamboma; Yengema; Bo; Sefadu; Kenema; Kono; Moyamba; Kambia; Mange Bureh and Tonko Limba. Gone are the days when people take pride in saying "ar nor ever cross waterloo"or look down on others saying "nar upline ee comot"
I am a Sierra Leonean first and foremost and then a creole/temne/fula later. I’d like to add that we need to put into place a system that ensures an even distribution of the country’s resources; providing equal opportunities for all, irrespective of where you find yourself. A child in Torma Bum in or Musaia in the Koinandugu District should have the same quality opportunities of achieving his potentials as the child in Freetown.
Subject: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 05:35:28 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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The statement below is a misrepresentation of one of Sierra Leone's finest military officers. I want to make it categorically clear that Palo Conteh was not in Sierra Leone when the NPRC overthrown the APC.
He left early in 1986 when he recognised that Momoh was straying away from the path of a "New Order.
Those of us who have worked closely with Rtd. Palo Conteh will proudly say he is a Man og integrity and honesty.
Retired Major Palor Conteh (A Northerner) is so far the only nominated Deputy Minister that has been named. He is to be the Deputy Minister of Defence. He is a nephew and former Military Aide to the late former APC President Joseph Saidu Momoh. He used to reside with the Momohs in their Spur Road residence and he went into exile when the APC was overthrown by the NPRC in April 1992 and has spent a considerable amount of time since then living in the United Kingdom.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - Yes, BUT...
From: Reporter
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Date Posted: 14:02:16 10/14/07 ()
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Yes. I have known Palor personally for many years. He is quite polished -- I always thought he would have made a good diplomat if he had not entered the military. I wasn't surprised when he left for the UK to study law.
But do we really need a Deputy Minister of Defence? I would have EBK could find a more pro-active use for Palor's obvious talents.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: Why O Why
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Date Posted: 09:44:21 10/14/07 ()
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Additionally rtd Major AP Conteh also acted as ADC to Late President Stevens before he left Sierra Leone.
Unlike appointed Brigadiers like Bio and others this Major was a CARREER OFFICER
Unlike previous mediocre appointments to defence,this officer is also a LAWYER.
Above all this humble officer was so popular with the rank and file that he was nicknamed "HOW ARE YOU"
Maybe these facts will help calibrate the inanity of the PHD (Pull Him Down) detractors.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: Bugsyb
To: All
Date Posted: 07:20:22 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: aburneynic@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: accb8a38.ipt.aol.com at 172.203.138.56
Message:
I thought EBK had shown Political maturity to appoint a Minister of Defence, in light of what has happened in our Country in the recent past an important Ministry like Defence needs it's own full blown Cabinet level Minister. For the record I know the nominee Palo Conteh and always found him to be the epitome of an Officer and a Gentleman.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: Dr. S.M.Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 05:56:32 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Sm1turay@aol.com
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I can testify that Retd. Maj. Palo Conteh is one of the most competent sierra leoneans to occupy the post of dep. Defence Minister. He is a man of high integrity and honesty, cool and calculated. One of the best decisions taken by the President.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 07:32:55 10/14/07 ()
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Message:
I agree.I knew Parlor since he was a studentand he is a good friend of my brother's.Met him personally when he and his brother came on a visit and stayed with my brother in NJ ( During Momoh's reign ). HE IS A FINE GENTLEMAN AND INTERESTINGLY, HE HAD LEFT SIERRA lEONE long before even Momoh was overthrown . He is also said to be a fine soldier and therefore he deserves his new post.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - For Kabs Kanu
From: Riverbend
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Date Posted: 08:51:02 10/14/07 ()
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Bo Kabs,
we dont expect you to say anything different. Since the inception of APC II, you have been bizzy praisesinging. So far, you have seen nothing wrong in anything they have done. I see no difference between your "webspace' and statehouse webpage. Your astute desire to take over Sylvia Blyden;s position as Senior Government Praise singer has dramatically lend your "paper" unreadworthy. I honestly expected much. I thought your critical position on SLPP was in the name of good governance, but your blatant and embedded nonsense that have been spewed since the APC II era speaks volume of your evil ploy. I know you want you want to be recognized as the official paper of APC II, but dont you think its too early to start propaganda? We have not even done anything yet, and you have already started calling us " a new dawn".
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - For Kabs Kanu
From: Fen Plaba
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Date Posted: 09:08:17 10/14/07 ()
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Get over the SLPP loss, Riverbend. Sour grapes will only sour your soul. Go out, play and enjoy the sunshine of the new dawn. Cussing Kabs will not resuscitate the ghost of Berewapi! Sit in your little corner and wait till 2012 and give the SLPP flag to a sober individual, who will make your party more competitive. Meanwhile, take those lemons the electorate tossed you in the last elections and squeeze lemonade from them. Contribute positively to your country's progress!
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - For Kabs Kanu
From: Soja
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Date Posted: 09:29:17 10/14/07 ()
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SLPP will not get over it easily.Their defeat hurt them real bad.Some of them are still not eating.Some have sleep apnea and other problems. All the tribalism, all the nepotism, everything gone, swept away by Kabs Kanu's pen and people's power.They will cuss at Kabs for the rest of their lives, making Kabs the most popular Sierra Leonean.
Subject: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:31:15 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
Please make your pick with valid reasons. I will provide a complete analysis later but first let me see what you positive and patriotic guys think.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 10:54:14 10/14/07 ()
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BEREWA! For accepting a very controversial result.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 15:51:05 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Believe me or not, I've always thought that alieu sesay as a very dangerous man (political time bomb) when it comes to power and power alone is he interested in and not a better country.
Counting on all his contributions, this guy love any opinion that is politically incorrect or controversial. I'm not trying to say he's not entitled to his opinion, but you if have enough time go through his past postings which are to do with political debating you'll see what I'm talking about.
Talking of ACCEPTING CONTROLVERSIAL RESULTS, can you please explain what should Berewa had done instead of accepting the past elections results.
This is the same guy who's preaching about the current cabinet being a regionally based. It's an attempt to draw attention from other potential tribalist to create scene of seggregation.
Becareful my brother.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 17:28:51 10/14/07 ()
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Edmond! I draw attention to issues people tend to avoid because,like you rightly said, they are controversial and politically incorrect.
I give credit where credit is due, i attck when i see a potential problem, and i stay away, where i lack any knowledge or information.
I remain a Nationalist and above all a sierra leonean...
My school mate- Lionel Akpabie a togolese student leader in EXILE calls me a weapon salone should use.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 09:55:09 10/14/07 ()
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Ex president Tejan Kabbah. For all his faults, he did not make any attempt to tinker with the constitution and perpetuate himself in power.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 13:44:31 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
Former President Kabba would never have tried that, too dangerous for him to try it. He would have been forceably removed by people's power. He knew that. So that is not a credit to him.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Nar Me
To: All
Date Posted: 13:49:37 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: the Newsletter@hotmail.com
Entered From: amontsouris-152-1-27-15.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr at 82.123.93.15
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Christiana Thorpe gets my vote for Sierra Leonean of the year.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 06:54:48 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac57384.bb.sky.com at 90.197.115.132
Message:
Charles Margai for his decision to merge with APC to save the people of Sierra Leone from another 5 years of poltical genocide. The man was bold enough to see beyond traditional tribal lines and make a decision that could have cost him his life. Lets face it PMDC votes did make an impact on the outcome of the election. Thats why Charles Margai gets my vote!!!
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:07 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
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I absolutely agree with you. We have had several politicians in the past who claimed to be leaders, formed their own political parties, but made no impact at all and paled out of existence.
Charles Margai is the only one able to set up a new party, won 10 seats in less than two years under tremendous obstacles and succeeded in changing the political landscape of Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Capt Yamao Khati
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Date Posted: 14:04:37 10/14/07 ()
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Message:
Margai has my vote.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Med Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:24:16 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: medconteh2005@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 89.241.145.222
Message:
I will go for Charles Margai
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Bugsyb
To: All
Date Posted: 07:24:31 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: aburneynic@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: accb8a38.ipt.aol.com at 172.203.138.56
Message:
I don't think that was Margai's reason for merging with the APC, he is a bit too Machiavellian for that.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: FENTHI
To: All
Date Posted: 05:58:46 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: fenthi@hotmail.com
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Message:
Dr.Christiana Thorpe
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 08:09:37 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I concur. Christiana Thorpe without a doubt. Had she not been a lioness in resisting the intimidation and threats, the elections would have been a wash and the country would probably be convulsed by violence now. She stuck to principle, without fair or favour, and delivered one of the fairest elections in the world...all this despite the machinations of fifth columnists within the electoral comiission itself.
PERSON OF THE YEAR----Dr. CHRISTIANA THORPE!
Subject: RE: EMMERSON LIVE PERFORMANCE IN LOS ANGELES...!!
From: MUSA
To: All
Date Posted: 04:02:02 10/14/07 ()
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Entered From: adsl-76-195-144-238.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net at 76.195.144.238
Message:
It appears that the Emmerson show in Los Angeles on 10/13/07 run's at a loss due to poor advertisment.
members who went left earlier than they anticipated.
Reasons are unconnected with poor stratigies in their publicity method. The boy "Emmerson" try hard to motivate the crowd however, the turn-out of participant especially with the Sierra Leoneans was not impressive. It was mostly attended by most Liberians and Nigerians.
Subject: MARGAI BACK TO BASE!!!
From: INSIDER
To: All
Date Posted: 00:19:56 10/14/07 ()
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Message:
Honestly! Berewa should not have been the presidential candidate for
SLPP in the first place. He lacks presidential attributes and charisma –
the Sierra Leonean people were grateful for what he did for them so
they returned the favor. He should be grateful. Can you imagine your
head of state snoring and drooling at the UN general assembly?
Kabba don’t really care about SLPP, he dubious, self centered and very
vindictive. The deal was if he stayed out of the election process he
would be receive immunity and that’s exactly what he did. He can now
travel freely as he wants; chase the FBC girls and Nigerian actresses.
Common now, that’s a heck of a deal.
Berewa sorry it turned out this way, your former boss used you to
accomplish his personal agenda and victimized others in the process.
MAN! You should have known this guy was up to no good, but you
were power hungry. “You sell you oath for cocoa en yebbeh.” Well,
you’re back on the right footing continue to lobby and suck-up.
How it feels to be isolated? You teamed up with Kabba to marginalize
Charles, but guess what? He is highly respected. And if APC fails to
carryout the mandate of the people, he will be the next president – you
underestimated the chap, you know he is brilliant.
I warned you over and over about Kabba but you never listened. You
think book smart is street smart; let bygone be bygone my friend and
let the past be history.
Kabba is seen as a hero around the world for handing over power
peaceful. What a legacy! Funnily, he is very proud of his
accomplishments, you should hear him speak behind closed doors. He
is a man of multiple personalities, a dictator and the king of
vindictiveness. Sometime when he talks about religion, I just smile.
I can go on and on…I WILL GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT!
Subject: Re: MARGAI BACK TO BASE!!!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:41 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Mr. INSIDER:
If Mr Margai is "highly respected" as you claim, he is respected only in certain quarters, not nationwide. He is certainly not welcomed in large parts of the country as far as I know. And if you look at the results of the second round of voting, many, many voters deserted him for the SLPP. Thank you. JL
Subject: Re: MARGAI BACK TO BASE!!!
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
John: End your aggression and direspect for Cahrles Margai. Afterall both you and Margai were treated badly by an ungrateful party and a party that brought shame on itself. Margai decided to fight for a change from outside. I think he desserved respect. No third party has ever won 10 seats in an election in Sierra Leone. He will do better in 2012.
Subject: KABBA STAY AWAY FROM THE SLPP
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 22:24:03 10/13/07 ()
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"Hands Off Our Party" SLPP Supporters Tell Ex-President Tejan Kabbah
Posted by on Oct 13, 2007, 06:47
Sierra Leone opposition supporters warn Tejan Kabbah Freetown, Sierra Leone (PANA) - Former President of Sierra Leone, Ahmed Tejan Kabbah, who retired after two five-year terms under the banner of the Sierra Leone Peoples party (SLPP), has been warned by angry supporters of the party to hands off its (SLPP) affairs.
Sierra Leone (PANA) - Former President of Sierra Leone, Ahmed Tejan Kabbah, who retired after two five-year terms under the banner of the Sierra Leone Peoples party (SLPP), has been warned by angry supporters of the party to hands off its (SLPP) affairs.
According to the pro-SLPP newspaper, "The Democrat", the former President had been informed he would be running a grave security risk by going near large gatherings of members of the SLPP, and therefore advised to keep his distance from his former party supporters as much as possible.
The development came in the wake of widespread speculations Tejan Kabbah had proposed a reconstruction of the party headquarters.
The ex-President had been accused on SLPP's FM 94.3 FM and at the SLPP headquarters of selling out the former ruling party and betraying the party's flag bearer and presidential candidate, Solomon Berewa, in the recently-concluded presidential and parliamentary elections.
Tejan Kabbah was alleged to have plotted downfall of Berewa and the SLPP, because he no longer felt safe with his former deputy and because of alleged jealousy, as he was said to have envisaged Berewa would offer a more effective leadership than him.
The former President has yet to react to the development because he is currently in South Africa on a private mission.
Berewa was defeated by Ernest Bai Koroma at in the elections
Subject: Re: KABBA STAY AWAY FROM THE SLPP
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 15:03:23 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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Message:
Why did the party faithful had to wait for kabba to messed the party up before they moaned?
Subject: LIBERIA: GO TO SCHOOL OR GO TO JAIL. SALONE PARENTS BEWARE!
From: FLOMO
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Date Posted: 21:12:41 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: flomo@aol.com
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LIBERIA: Go to school or go to jail
Photo: Kate Thomas/IRIN
Many children spend their days selling food and other goods instead of going to school
MONROVIA, 21 September 2007 (IRIN) - Seven-year-old Assatou has been selling grilled plantains at a busy junction on the outskirts of the Liberian capital, Monrovia, for two years. "My family can't afford to send me to school," she says with a sigh. “So I learned how to cook plantain instead."
Under a new education policy, parents or guardians of children like Assatou will soon face fines or even be arrested for allowing their children to sell in the streets during school hours. President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf in early September announced the measure, which is said to be aimed at increasing school enrolment and curbing child labour.
However, the announcement is drawing criticism from local rights activists.
"We're not satisfied with the new [measure],” Joseph Harris of the Liberian children's rights group FOCUS told IRIN. "Imposing fines or arresting guardians is not the way to handle the problem of children working on the streets... The issue is due to complex economic and social factors. It needs to be solved rather than put under the carpet."
Parents say they would much rather put their children in school than to work, but they have no choice.
The Education Ministry says the policy, which will be phased in gradually beginning with the coming academic year, is intended in part to reduce child trafficking. Children are lured from the counties to Monrovia on the promise of education only to wind up as hawkers on street corners.
"Children are not breadwinners," said Hawa Gol Kotchi, deputy minister of education for information. "They should be in school, not working on the street."
Gol Kotchi said the move was part of a drive to meet a Millennium Development Goal to have all children enrolled in school by 2015. "It's based on common sense. We noticed a large number of children working on the street, and this is a good way to get them into school."
Compulsory but not free?
However, implementing the new policy is likely to prove difficult, particularly given that Liberia’s justice system is weak.
"Once the new law comes into force, the police will have to launch a mechanism to inform children and their parents why they are being arrested," Alvin Jask Kanneh, deputy commissioner of the Liberian National Police, told IRIN.
“And of course there is the issue of clashes with the police. Parents may refuse to comply," he said.
He added: "Many children don't know their age or don't have birth certificates. That will be another hurdle in the process.”
Liberia's much-hyped Free and Compulsory Education legislation – supposed to enable every child aged 5 to 11 to attend school free of charge – has been on the books since 2004, but is yet to be fully implemented.
Photo: Kate Thomas/IRIN
Children in a private school in Monrovia
Local human rights groups say the measure to punish non-school-attendance would be premature. In parts of Monrovia there are not enough classrooms for every school-age child so many parents are forced to pay as much as US$200 a year to send their children to private elementary schools, and they also have to buy uniforms, books and pens.
A police officer in Liberia can make $150 a month, a vegetable vendor up to $30. Unemployment stands at about 80 percent.
Mixed views
The rights group FOCUS said that unless the government measures were backed by practical action to provide free education for all children, the move would backfire. "Parents do not take pleasure in reducing their children to perpetual peddlers,” FOCUS said in a statement in Liberia’s The Analyst newspaper. “It is a measure of poverty and desperation."
Charlotte Kaicora, the headmistress of a private school in downtown Monrovia, said she believed many parents would resist. "Most of the children selling on the street on behalf of their parents are in low economic groups... Whether it can be implemented… I don’t know."
Her view was echoed by a group of women gathered at the busy ELW junction on the outskirts of Monrovia. "I want to send my daughter to school but I don't have the money," Lauren Jalloh, who makes around US$20 a month selling fruit and vegetables, told IRIN.
David M. Johnson, a father of four, also said Liberians were not ready for such dramatic measures. "Everyone wants their children to be able to go to school,” he said. “But until the state can provide free tuition for everyone it will be impossible."
Many children cheered when they heard the new government announcement. "If we don't go to school, we don't learn,” 12-year-old Patience told IRIN.
Some children, such as 10-year-old James, have to compromise. He works in the mornings and attends school in the afternoons.
Mohammed Kamara, a taxi driver, said having children in school would be good in another way. "Children make money by wandering among cars selling chocolate, sweets and water. But children are so small, and truck drivers don't always see them… there are many terrible accidents on the streets."
The Education Ministry’s Gol Kotchi said officials are under no illusions about the difficulties of implementing the new measure, emphasising that it would not take effect immediately. "We're not going to collect all the children working on the street right this minute," she said.
"We're slowly doing more assessments and renovating our teacher training institutions,” she said. “These are all measures we are taking in preparation for a full-scale free and compulsory education system.”
Subject: LIBERIAN EXECUTIVE SERVICE- WHERE IS SHEKU SESAY'S REPORT
From: CHAPCHAP
To: All
Date Posted: 20:53:15 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: chapchap@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.216.34.251
Message:
Republic of Liberia
Civil Service Agency
SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE
Vacancy Announcement (Repeat)
The Perspective
Atlanta, Georgia
October 8, 2007
Titles of Positions: 1) Senior Transport Economist, Ministry of Public Works
2) Senior Bridge Engineer, Ministry of Public Works
3) Road Construction Equipment Maintenance Specialist, Ministry of Public works
4) National Land Reform Program Coordinator, Land Administrative Reform Program Unit, Division of Operation, Ministry of Lands, Mines and Energy
5) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Justice
6) Lawyer, Ministry of Justice
7) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Commerce and Industry
Contract Type: SES Contract
Remuneration: Up to US$36,000.00 annually for each position
Duty Station: Monrovia
Duration: Three years (renewable yearly based on performance and funding)
Start Date: Immediate
Date of Issue: October 9, 2007
Closing Date: October 23, 2007
All applications should be addressed to:
The Program Coordinator
Senior Executive Service Program
Civil Service Agency, R.L.
63 Carey Street, Monrovia
Liberia
Email: edward.cuffy@yahoo.com or call tel: +231-6-903842
Background
The SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE is a key Program of the Government’s civil service reforms, intended to develop adequate surge capacity to provide leadership and management to implement priority programmes and catalyze strategic change in Liberia. The SES program has been established to attract and recruit competent and skilled Liberian professionals to help the Government work toward achieving effective management of public affairs, promoting economic growth and improving service delivery under the civil service code of conduct.
Objectives, Primary Duties and Activities, Reporting and Qualifications
1) Senior Transport Economist, Ministry of Public Works
Objective: Lead and direct the planning of the road transport network including traffic studies. Represent the Ministry of Public Works in all meetings and discussions with the Ministry of Transport in developing a National Transport Policy.
Primary Duties and Activities
Help formulate government transport economic policies
Study the effects of government economic and monetary policies, expenditure, taxation and other budgetary controls on the economy and the community transportation needs
Identify opportunities to improve efficiency and international competitiveness in regard to transport matters
Research, analyze and record the effects of the country transport programs on economic and industrial growth
Prepare forecasts, analyze trends and advise on transportation issues
Reporting
Reports to the Deputy Minister for Technical Services
Qualification and Experience
A Master Degree from a reputable institution in Transport Economics or its equivalent and a Bachelor Degree in Civil Engineering is an added advantage
At least ten years experience covering a full range of socioeconomic project evaluation and policy analysis in the transport sector. Previous exposure to road construction would be ideal
2) Senior Bridge Engineer, Ministry of Public Works
Objective
The Senior Bridge Engineer will supervise the planning, designing and coordinating construction of bridges and drainage structure in Liberia.
Primary Duties and Activities
Develop appropriate strategies in establishing the bridges and drainage structure for Liberia
Lead the design and delivery of bridge and highways structures projects using both traditional and design/build delivery formats
Manage a wide variety of structural engineering projects, including bridges, retaining walls, highway structures and waterfront structure
As the team leader, direct team members work, mentor junior staff and provide technical and quality guidance
Undertake appropriate client relationships and set up mechanisms to monitor client reactions
Reporting
Reports to the Assistant Minister for Technical Services
Qualification and Experience
A Master Degree in Structural Engineering
Must be a licensed Engineer and have at least ten years experience in designing bridges.
3) Road Construction Equipment maintenance Specialist, Ministry of Public works
Objective
Lead and manage a team in accomplishing specific tasks while operating equipment; perform safety inspection prior to operating equipment and monitor gauges and other equipment while in operation. Oversee routine maintenance and ensure that repair are undertaken.
Primary Duties and Activities
In consultation with the Mobile Workshop Director, prepare routine and periodic maintenance schedules of earth moving equipment and all related machinery
Conduct safety inspection of all earthmoving equipment and related machinery
Ensure that repairs are made to earthmoving equipment and all related machinery
Conduct in-house advance training for mechanics and related personnel
Effectively manage a team to ensure all tasks are undertaken in an efficient manner
Reporting
Reports to the Deputy Minister for Technical Services
Qualification and Experience
A Bachelor Degree in Mechanical Engineering; Masters Degree in Mechanical Engineering is an added advantage
At least five years experience as a Heavy Duty Mechanic (Master Mechanic) in earthmoving/construction Equipment
4) National Land Reform Program Coordinator, Land Administrative Reform Program Unit, Division of Operation, Ministry of Lands, Mines and Energy
Objective
Ensure effective coordination and implementation of the Government's Land Administration Reform Program.
Primary Duties and Activities
· Provide professional support to the office of the Deputy Minister for Operations to enhance the Ministry's effectiveness in land administration:
a) Coordinate the Ministry's endeavors to improve its administrative and regulatory effectiveness within the framework of existing laws;
b) Review existing internal institutional framework for land administration and propose revisions;
c) Review existing land surveying and mapping procedures and recommend measures for improvement;
d) Review existing land information systems and propose measures for improvements,
e) Coordinate implementation of selected and approved measures for improving existing land administration mechanisms.
· Oversee the Ministry's land sector coordination role and performance as lead agency in national land administration and coordinate government’s efforts to formulate a National land Administration Reform Program.
a) Coordinate all inputs by the Ministry to the National Land Administration Program formulation;
b) Provide national coordination services or advice to the inter-agency technical committee on land administration reform;
.
Reporting
· Reports to the Deputy Minister for Operations who Chairs the Inter-Agency Committee on Land Administration Reform.
· Receives reports from:
a) All staff of the Ministry involved with the Land Administration Reform program i.e, The Assistant Minister for Lands, Surveys and Cartography, the Directors of the Bureau of Land & Surveys, The Direct of the Bureau of Land Information & Training and the Director of the Liberian Cartographic Services; as well as the Technical Assistant for Land Services in the Office of the Deputy Minister for Operations.
Minimum Qualifications and Experience
· Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics, Land Surveying, Surveying Engineering or a related science discipline. Master’s preferred
The applicant should have at least eight years of experience in land administration, land reform systems, or land- related reforms in the public or private sector, with at least four years of practical experience. Minimum of 12 months of experience in coordination of entities around a common objective
5) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Justice and
6) Lawyer, Ministry of Justice
Objective
To strengthen the ability of the Ministry and the court enhance the representation of the Ministry in legal actions and manage the Ministry’s rule making process.
Primary Duties and Activities
Under the guidance of the Minister provide specialized legal advice on all aspects of law and procedure with an emphasis on criminal and international humanitarian law
Attend judicial proceedings and hearings at trial or on appeal and provide expert advice to the Minister in an expeditious manner on the various issues pending in various courts
Supervise research undertaken by the legal officers and provide the Minister with reports and decisions in a timely manner
Provide legal advice on procedural and substantive law and participate in meetings with Minister and staff;
Assist in the drafting and review of legislation and review legislation, draft and review contracts
Reporting
· Reports to the Minister
Qualification and Experience
· Attorney at law, JD/LLB preferably with specialization in international, criminal or humanitarian law
· Minimum of seven years legal experience, at either the national or international level, preferably with an emphasis in criminal law, international law or humanitarian law. Experience with litigation in Liberia, and/or knowledge of the Liberian legal system is a plus
7) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Commerce and Industry
Objective
Strengthen the ability of the Ministry to carry out its responsibilities through the provision of expert in-house legal services. In particular, review all documents with legal implications, advise the Minister on issues relating to rule of law, provide legal assistance and advice to key stakeholders, represent the Ministry in legal actions, and manage the Ministry’s rule making process.
Primary Duties and Activities
Advise the Ministry on the necessary underlying commercial legal structures to develop the strengthen Liberia’s economy
Serve on interagency teams that negotiate, interpret and enforce trade and investment agreements with foreign governments
Advise and be an advocate for Liberian exporters and investors. Respond to questions or problems that arise in local/foreign business transactions
Review the mandates of the Ministry and comply with all applicable legal requirements
Counsel the Ministry and assist government counterparts in legal action taken against any individual or business within the commerce of Liberia, in cases where the Ministry is being sued by any individual, business or organization
Manage the Ministry’s rule making process pertaining to the Minister’s oversight of commerce and industry
Liaise with the Ministry of Justice in all matters related to the mandate and function of the Commerce and Industry
Liaise with relevant line ministries to ensure compliance with all applicable treaties and trade obligations
Reporting
· Reports to the Minister of Commerce and Industry
Qualification and Experience
· Attorney at law, JD/LLB
· Must have 8 years of experience with a) litigation in international commercial laws, business law governing commercial transactions and activities and regulation, and/or b) professional academic experience in legal research of commercial theories, practices and regulations. Experience with litigation in Liberia, and/or Liberian commercial law is a plus.
Subject: take a look at me now
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 20:33:07 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-24-15-212-63.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 24.15.212.63
Message:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzVUNQSs5f4
Subject: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: Forum Veteran
To: All
Date Posted: 20:11:31 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253
Message:
I want to discuss something very important with him. Please tell me how I can contact him.
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: Another Forum Veteran
To: All
Date Posted: 21:53:04 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h247.191.213.151.ip.alltel.net at 151.213.191.247
Message:
Don Webb was guite an old man. He had some kind of solution for any problem. He had elaborate plans for Sa Leone, the west to east, north to south rail road system the country needs, his paradise island Bonthe and many other ideas in Job creation and so on. It will be nice to have him back, if he is not below the grass.
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:47:01 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Might be right.. Thought he was gone too....
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: Curious
To: All
Date Posted: 05:43:50 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
alieu sesay, what do you know about Don Webb?
Subject: FAO:MOHAMEDBARIGUE
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 19:13:45 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 5ac432e7.bb.sky.com at 90.196.50.231
Message:
Can you contact the folling individual who wants a ticket to Freetown:
kadia - (001) 763 971 0059 / (001) 763 221 8533
Subject: Re: FAO:MOHAMEDBARIGUE
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 22:17:13 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Bo Brah Do yah noh do dis aygane.
Now ah kin abul fen yu nah europe tru dah numba (Hahaha)
Always remember this is an open forum (you can't track all members). Emails are ok. (they aren't always on public record, but phone numbers are)
You nah Pa Harding ihn student, so arh consan.
Subject: Re: FAO:MOHAMEDBARIGUE
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 20:45:52 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: mohamedbaigue@yahoo.fr
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
mohamedbarigue@yahoo.fr
Subject: BRA CORNIE WHERE ARE YOU?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 19:00:55 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
About 1975, this Nigerian lp was the longest playing ever. If my memory serves me well, some called it "the African train". The real title, however, I will like to believe is "Ikenga Of Africa". Not absolutely sure of thas either. But one thing for sure, the lyrics includes "long live Africa"
Where can I get this song Bra Cornie?
I searched the net with no trace of it.
Please help Bra Cornie or anyone.
Subject: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Alieu Sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 18:01:24 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Did EBK really choose this GROUP of people?
Over Eighty percent of the ministers are from the NORTH. Why was the President telling the world that he is a uniter and not a divider?
Do we really need a FAKE uniter?
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 19:21:16 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
How do you know that 80 percent of his ministers are from the north? Some of those with Northern-sounding names may have been born and raised in the South and East. Point in case: You, Alieu Sesay, a very strong and passionate Southeasterncrat, have one of the most Northern surnames, Sesay, in Sierra Leone. I think the old rules of tribal profiling do not count anymore. Besides, some of those ministers were approved by the great Southern patriot, Charles Margai himself.
Do you want us to start listing the tribe/region of the ministers? For example, Dr. Succoh Kabia- son of the great Mende Paramount Chief Madam Ella Koblo Gullama of Moyamba and PC Bai Koblo Path bana of Lunsar..blahblah.
As long as all of the regions are represented in the cabinet, that is a step in the right direction. We will judge their performance later. Let's move on prof!
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:54:05 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Somtin? You mentioned Kabia, he is a northerner...and so are the fifteen others.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 18:51:00 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
If the SLPP cannot unite the South/East, then I must have my very own misgivings about this call for a "government of national unity" headed by the APC.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 19:26:30 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
I don't see any logic in a government of national unity. I think this concept is misnomal, it is simply inapplicable when a democratically elected govt had an overwhelming majority and can deliver its policies without the opposition alliance.
Beside unity government presupposes that the nation is fundamentally fractured to the point where inclusion of some agrieved opponents may be necessry to enhance stability and peace.
Koroma is not obliged either by constitution or otherwise to include any member of SLPP in his govt unless if he wishes to do so.
I am not an APC but my view is that koroma's judgement is correct both strategically and politically.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Panlamp
To: All
Date Posted: 20:14:22 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: panlamp2000@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-071-077-033-103.nc.res.rr.com at 71.77.33.103
Message:
This is the most National Unity cabinet you can get. Like it or not. What everyone should care about is results and this is the cabinet that will bring results to us all as a nation. You watch.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 19:38:59 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
Na true yu tork so chief!
The best we probably can hope for in a government is individual responsibility not tribal or regional representation.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:47:30 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
KING! the SLPP did not ask for a government of NATIONAL unity... EBK did. But we dae watch dem.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 21:28:14 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
Alieu, seems like you are finding anything and everything to cry about. Given the rat-tar-tar performance of the SLPP during the past eleven years, the need to find the better qualified to change coruse trumps the need to get representation from the diffrent regions.. After all we are all S/Leonean. You guys love defining the line of regionalism and tribalism. Please lets fix your wrong first...
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:04:46 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
You sound like my "name-sake" the "GREAT" one.
But the fact remains, the APC folks have called the SLPP a mende-man party, and that we are a bunch of tribalists.
Heck! look at what we are seeing.. A purely NORTHERN cabinet...Ar sorry for Salone.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 22:30:58 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
And I ask you my learned brother: Again, what is most important to you personally? getting folks that can get the job done? or National representaion of cabinet rank members? please give me a straight answer.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:45:28 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Call me spider.. but i think both... Why? The last election was TRIBAL and hence one will expect the CABINET to be inclusive so as to alley the fears of millions who think that the APC will marginalize and purnish them for exercising their democratic right to vote otherwise.
But what do i know?
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 23:16:44 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
In deed, if you vote otherwise you should expect otherwise; However, we all regardless of party affiliation we all stand to gain from the revivification of prosperity under APC. If you are not called to serve, then you are saved from all the trouble that comes with it. Except if abd only if "you man dem wan go complete the damage".
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Riverbend
To: All
Date Posted: 09:03:22 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-44c6f241.dyn.optonline.net at 68.198.242.65
Message:
Alieu:
i think I agree with you on certain grounds. I think there is ethics in politics. In essence, if you make a promise to the electorate, you must deliver on those promises - a reason why your SLPP was booted out. Therefore, EBK has the responsibility to do exactly what he promised - Form a government of National Unity. Or is it what John Leigh would refer to as Post-Election Statements - which no longer hold after elections?
Riverbend
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 09:18:32 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
EBK has put in place a govt of national unity, from all regions. Some people are more concerned with profiling people by their surnames. This is ridiculous. There are many Sesays and Kamaras who are Mende, and many Kandehs and Vandys who are Temne, Limba or Loko. This is a product of the tolerant culture of intermarriage in our country. Seems our forebearers were much more enlightened than the present educated elites who demand tribal purity in everything. We gotta move on and give this cabinet a chance. Let's judge them by their performance and not the base sequence in their DNA.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 11:00:20 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Fen Plaba! The proposed cabinet is very NORTHERN. There is no "ALIEU SESAY" type individual ON THAT LIST. Every Mansaray, Koroma, Kamara, Conteh, etc etc is from the North. Even Kabia whose mother was the PC from kaiyamba, he is also a Northerner.
Pray they perform, or else, the APC will be a ONE-TERM wonder.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 18:22:51 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
National unity was never an issue. The President did not say he will make ministers from every corner of sierra leone or from every party.
APC is showing SLPP how to run a government.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:44:31 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Oh yes he did. Not that it matters one way or the other. What is important is that the cabinet deliver. Let's move on.
Subject: Ah dae bust!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:38:56 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194097.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.97
Message:
Wahalah!
I am laughing like a fool!
Subject: Re: Ah dae bust!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 17:58:04 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Walahi, you are so right. Dr. Nahim is calling, homes.
Subject: SEX PAPER VIEW
From: CHARLES _CURTIS THOMAS RN MD
To: All
Date Posted: 17:23:53 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.133.139.165
Message:
This night i will be on my web cam performing live sex, so if interested please let me know. i have being masturbating for too long now
Subject: DO WE NEED FOURTY DEPUTY MINISTERS TO RUN SA LEONE?
From: INSIDER
To: All
Date Posted: 17:13:43 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip72-192-206-51.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.206.51
Message:
The word on the street is that each ministry will have two DEPUTY
ministers. Why two?
Subject: Re: DO WE NEED FOURTY DEPUTY MINISTERS TO RUN SA LEONE?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 22:03:53 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Firstly, we need to know the job functions of the deputies.
If their job functions entails what the Perm Sec normally does, but the Deputy Min is there to be held accountable, then let it fly. We'll see.
We need to Ask the Government to publish job functions of all ministers and their deputies. If we know their functions, then we also can accurately judge their performances.
Hope COCORIOKO will help us in publishing these. Probably, make a section for Government Documents and publish all in pdf/word.
I'm beginning to like the IDEA of COCORIOKO being a PR outlet for APC. I PERSONALLY HAVE A LOT TO GAIN FROM THAT. Publish all customs tariff, government forms and official service fees.
Subject: Re: DO WE NEED FOURTY DEPUTY MINISTERS TO RUN SA LEONE?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 20:26:39 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
How credible is that piece of news? Some of the needless ministries duplicating themselves can be a burden on a weak economy. Having two deputy ministers in every ministry will be an unforgivable waste.
Subject: 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Mohamed Yongawo
To: All
Date Posted: 15:02:01 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: yongawomohamed@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
My concern is not the ethnic identity of the individuals. My concern, as I outlined in my last contribution to patriotic vanguard, is the share number of ministers. EBK DO WE REALLY NEED 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE? I still think we don’t. Nevertheless, EBK you are in the driving seat, you probably know what I do not know. I wish you all the best.
Subject: Re: 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 15:26:48 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 199.219.162.191
Message:
Your concerns are noted..but did you know Pa Kabbah had 25/8 Ministers? If Pres. EKB has reduced the cabinet to 20/3, I think he has done good so far...
Subject: Re: 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Mohamed Yongawo
To: All
Date Posted: 17:25:23 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: yongawomohamed@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
There was no justification for Kabba to have "25/8" ministers. Let me reiterate that irrespective of who is in power, 12/13 ministers are just enough for Sierra Leone. This has always been my view and it will remain so. Prior to the elections I made my position in a piece I sent to cocorioko but it was never published. Probably the editor judged it was premature. I still wish EBK good luck.
Subject: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 14:45:26 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 199.219.162.191
Message:
Pa Siaka once filled his cabinet will PhDs but time told that the Salone man bizness tranga still. H.E. Pres. Koroma has filled his cabinet with J.C.'s/New Breeds, hope SL will do better this time. The list includes:
VP Sumana
Mineral Resources Jalloh
Health Kabia
Lands Davies
Housing Saad
Marine Kapu
Defence Conteh
...............................
Others with International experience include:
Finance Davies
Foreign Affairs Bangura
Education Bah
..................................................
Home Grown Politicians:
Energy Kabbah
Children/Welfare Kandeh
Spokesman Kanu
Information Kargbo
Agriculture Sesay
Justice Serry-Kamal
Trade Koroma
Transport Sesay
..............................
JC-HG like:
Tourism Trye
Interior Kamara
Labour Mansaray
Subject: Re: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: Bugsyb
To: All
Date Posted: 06:27:39 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: aburneynic@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: acc9b12a.ipt.aol.com at 172.201.177.42
Message:
The nominee for Finance is Carew or is it a Fruedian slip? Raymond Davies was Carew's Boss(GOD) at KPMG for many years.
Subject: Re: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: HG Case File
To: All
Date Posted: 20:08:08 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-69-20.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.69.20
Message:
My Friend,Is Hindolo Trye really a JC-HG? I dont think so
Was he not the same person who legislated a press bill that required newspapers to have at least
one million or more leones in their accounts in case they get sued for libel? Was Mr. Trye not the Information Minister who
bought back to life television in Sierra Leone? Was he not the same person as Transportation Minister who made Taxicabs
to begin distinguishing themselves with yellow colored paint?..Considering his ministerial records I am sure other forumites will
agree with me The former Student leader is certainly not a JC-HG as you now alleging.
Subject: Re: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 17:47:28 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Very informative. thanx for dreaking it down for us.
Subject: HOW CAN CHANGE BE IMPLEMENTED TO MINIMIZE RESISTANCE?
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:00 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: Cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-206-51.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.206.51
Message:
What an interesting exchange regarding the cleanliness of the country.
These are the kind of civilized conversations we need in this forum.
Utilizing mind mapping/engaging in a meaningful debate to come up
with solutions for the issues the country is facing.
I concur with you guys that strict measures/legislations should be
enacted/implemented to keep the country clean. We should not forget
that implementing change is arduous; by nature human being do like
change – resistance to change.
There are certain steps that should be taken to minimize change
resistant and make it effectives. (1) Create the need for change
(urgency) - by explaining why the change is necessary/benefits, and
the effect if the change is not implemented/instituted; (2) Involve the
people in the process – by soliciting their ideas/inputs - make them
part of the change process; (3) Create an avenue for feedback – where
people can express their pleasure or displeasure; and finally build
consensus – supporters/ambassadors of change. The aforementioned
are some of the techniques use to minimize change resistant.
LETS KEEP THE DEBATE ALIVE MY COMPATRIOTS.
Peace and love
One Country and One People
Subject: Eid Greetings
From: Alieru Bakarr
To: All
Date Posted: 14:36:51 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-82-160-44.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 72.82.160.44
Message:
EId-ul Mubarak to all Sierra leoneans.
May the Almighty Allah Bless our President and his miniters.
May He accept our fasting, prayers and zakats.
God bless us all and Sierra leone.
Amin.
Subject: Re: Eid Greetings
From: Abdul Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 20:31:22 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: abdulcole@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-244-053-040.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.244.53.40
Message:
Wish you the same alpha Alieru and everyone.
Subject: Re: Eid Greetings
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 14:42:36 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: COttontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-206-51.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.206.51
Message:
EID-UL MUBARAK TO YOU MY FRIEND AND TO ALL MY COUNTRY MEN
AND WOMEN...
Subject: Thank God!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 14:18:27 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194097.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.97
Message:
It was a problem for our nation. Can you believe that!
You mean to tell me you still do not understand? And they still will not understand.Wow.
I have to go!
Subject: Re: Thank God!
From: Get help Bambay!
To: All
Date Posted: 18:13:45 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
I wish you the best, bro, as you fight to overcome the demons that are torturing you. I hope you seek help to quell the voices screaming in your head. There was a time when I would have said something flippant just to gas with your head. But mental illness is a very serious and misunderstood illness. It really is no joking matter. Please seek help and regain your health and well-being. You're gonna be just fine. All the best, bro. Please get help!
Subject: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 12:28:25 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: Cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-202-227.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.202.227
Message:
My fellow compatriots the president has finished selecting his cabinets/
team to help carryout his objectives and the mandate of the voters/people
of our beloved Sierra Leone.
There are familiar names with a track record and some are new in the
political arena. CAN SOMEONE HELP SHADE SOME LIGHT ON THIS LATEST
SELECTION?
Peace and love
One Country and One People
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 13:48:59 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.242.151.74
Message:
What are you talking about? And where do we need to "shade" some light? ooh to shed some light?
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 14:18:35 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-206-51.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.206.51
Message:
Eddie: Thanks for the correction. I meant to say shed, you got the
message, that is the essence of communication.
Peace and Love
One Country and One People
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr. Mechanic
To: All
Date Posted: 23:01:49 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
Happy 59th! Mr. President, Eid Mubarak!... What exactly are you not amazed about? or what is it that the APC does not seem to cease to amaze you about?
All your predictions or I should say dicta failed to attract any merit. What happen? Is that The palm tree tactic: if you talk about it enough, it may come to pass?
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr. Mechanic
To: All
Date Posted: 22:58:44 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
Happy 59th! Mr. President, Eid Mubarak!... What exactly are you not amazed about?
All your predictions or I should say dicta failed to attract any merit. What happen? Is that The palm tree tactic: if you talk about it enough, it may come to pass?
Subject: NOR MESS WIT SOAK LEPET
From: REYWAL
To: All
Date Posted: 11:50:17 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UyJuZef9r9c&mode=related&search=
Subject: Re: NOR MESS WIT SOAK LEPET
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 17:19:55 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
Holy Smoke!!!
Yes "NOR MESS WIT SOAK LEPET", or you will get beat up reel bad!
Subject: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 11:08:51 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alphaa Alieu Iscandari: You sound like a convinced exponent of the death penalty. I have opposed views to yours.
Why are you opposed to the death penalty? I whole-heartedly agree that in a nascent democracy, the nation's chief executive can always use the death penalty to liquidate his opponents after fake trials. We are an example of such farcical brands of justice, as every leader from Siaka Stevens to Kabbah, executed opponents after trials that never passed the mildest tests of civilized justice. In that sense, the death penalty can be a tool in the hands of a vindictive leader on the prowl.
What I have never heard from you, Lawyer Alphaa Alieu Iscandari, is an elaborate justification for wanting to abolish the death penalty in every circumstance. What form of punishment is most suitable for beastly crimes against humanity? How is genocide punishable, for example? Is society expected to lock up a serial rapist of kids and feed him three square meals a day at the expense of the aggrieved? You are probably itching with the liberal argument that studies attest to the fact that the death penalty does not deter crime.
In the United States, African-Americans tend to oppose the death penalty. Given the history of this country, African-American opposition to the ultimate form of punishment is understandable. After slavery, Jim Crow and a justice system tilted against blacks with racist intents, African-Americans have every reason to pout their lips in disgust when the death penalty is mentioned. On a wider perspective, the death penalty remains a fitting form of punishment in crimes that border on animalism, and I had fewer quibbles when the heads of Chemical Ali and Saddam Hussien were severed. The same Europe that opposes the death penalty today was the same geographic entity that allowed the Numremberg trials after subduing Nazi baboonery. After Nuremberg, the victors' justice sentenced some of the convicts to have a date with the hang man. Where was European squeamishness as the hang man tightened the noose after Nuremberg?
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 08:36:59 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I am oposed to the death penalty because it is MORALLY WRONG. I still grieve for Salami Coker, Kula Samba, Abdul K Sesay, Boisy Palmer and all of those who are not personally known to me but who died needless deaths because they were on the other side of a political debate.
Salami Coker, James Bambay kamara and a host of others were BRUTALLY murdered by the NPRC on december 29, 1992. I am angry that no one is asking qusestions about the circumstances of their death. Salami did nothing to deserve to die in such a brutal way.
I read the supposed last statement of FM Minah and I shudder to think what would have been going through that poor mans mind knowing that he was about to be put to death in one of the most brutal ways by hanging. Why I ask do we have to be so brutal to ach other because we differ politically. There are many ways we can "punish" people for crimes committed against the state, other than by death or torture.
As an advocate for justice, and a "card carrying" member of this government, I will work behind the scenes for prison reform and penal reform.
THE DEATH PENALTY IS DEAD WRONG.
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:58:34 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
If you are sorry for what happened to FM then you do not know the history of the justice system in Sierra Leone. FM is a victim of his own stupidness, selfishness and power consciousness. In America, we say "the chicken has come home to roast". FM being a poster child to your opposition to the death penalty is a joke. He deserved what he got. What would you do with the killers of Sam Bangurah,Korubally,Wellington Street murder and the POW student that was killed at Brookfields because a girl? Retribution is what our justice is and will continue to be about. If you kill someone, you should be killed in return and it should be swift. No probation or parole because you or your family is rich or politically connected. Remember that Lady Justice is blind. Lonta
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 10:22:13 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
"the chicken has come home to roast".
I am sure you mean:
"the chicken has come home to roost". Sorry.
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:05:53 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: sabanoh007@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Fen Plaba, thats what I meant. Thanks. I am not easily rattled. Go fen oder person plaba. Lonta
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 12:26:49 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-54-210-212.hsd1.in.comcast.net at 68.54.210.212
Message:
Let's face it, the death penalty only brings relief to perpetrators of serious crimes and seem to be only a symbolic action to show the masses that justice is served. The reality is that it does not punish perpetrators duly, it just puts them out off their misery – whatever that misery or torment is that allowed them to become what they are. Let's face it, in Africa, life in prison is enough to deter a criminal, because our deploring conditions in the prisons are enough punishment for any crazy fool – lock-up in Sierra Leone is hard time sent in conditions that you will not wish for your worse enemy. So you see my friend, advocating the death penalty only creates some relief for some in the society that are overzealous for justice to be served, but what better justice it would be to allow a perpetrators of a serious crime to go though hard time, send life in prison and live every day to face the society and victims of the crime committed. Life in prison as opposed to the death penalty could be very tormenting and very overbearing for criminals who have no respect for life, society norms and the rule of law. Continue the death penalty and make a serious criminals dream come true - give them an easy way out.
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 16:30:26 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
"Let's face it, in Africa, life in
prison is enough to deter a criminal,
because our deploring conditions in
the prisons are enough punishment
for any crazy fool – lock-up in
Sierra Leone is hard time sent
in conditions that you will not
wish for your worse enemy."
--------------------------------
"Let's face it, the death penalty
only brings relief to perpetrators
of serious crimes and seem to be
only a symbolic action to show
the masses that justice is served."
(SHABBA)
I AGREE!!!
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: nyandadiamoh
To: All
Date Posted: 12:19:58 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-138-69-150.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 69.138.69.150
Message:
I agree with you Alieu Iscandari - Be it by hanging or by any other means, death is not a punishment but an end. DONT KILL Punish
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 11:40:20 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
If someone killed one of my kids (astafulie), I would want that murderer to swing from the end of a sturdy rope. If someone commits a heinous crime against humanity, like the crimes that went on in Srebrenecia and in Poland's concentration camps, or are going on right now in Darfur, my friend, line up the twisted criminals against the wall and I will pull the trigger.
If however the death penalty can be used to execute political opponents, as obtains in many African countries, then my opposition is resolute.
I am not trying to eat my cake and have it, guys. It's just a real tough pickle to bite. I guess there will always be shades of gray. My solution is to apply the death penalty only to heinous crimes and forbid it in political situations. It is not an ideal solution, but it is a start. For my part, I will never abolish the death penalty completely.
Even God punishes his violators with death, in all the major religions!
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 11:13:06 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Correction: You sound like an opponent, NOT exponent, of the death penalty.
Subject: Re: Alieu Iscandari: WHY ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THE DEATH PENALTY?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:32:00 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cat11.liblab.csus.edu at 130.86.14.111
Message:
Are we the ones to be talking about this especially when innocent
Sierra Leonean, a college graduate, an aspiring young man who has no
criminal record, has not bad financial record, most of us never in our
lives met him, the only thing we know is how we might make im
disrespected, trough which he has endured great deal of pain and
suffering but we incessantly continue to persecute him in any way
possible relentlessly trying to prove what we ourselves are aware are
false, fabricated, hate-generated and jealous-generated efforts; an
effort intended just to manipulate, which we ourselves are aware of
that our efforts are nothing but sadistic and narrow mindedness?
Are we mentally, spiritually , morally and psychologically competent to
see the reality of what these people go through in jail cells? Mind you
there are those who new him starting 1961 to the present and most of
them have been reading.
I have to study. I have two exams on he way.
Subject: INFRASTRUCTURAL DEVELOPMENT
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 10:36:05 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 199.219.156.131
Message:
PWD or MOW?
Subject: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 07:20:08 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
The elections have come and gone. As we roll into the Christmas season, the JCs are getting ready to fly in to showboat, peacock and strut their multi million-dollar-euro stuff, to the hero-worship of fan, kith and kin. However the days before chrismas are anxious ones for a most of our 'homebase' compatriots as they realize that their dreary economic status quo has really not changed at all. It will hit them like a ton of rutile concentrate that, despite the elections, they still can't afford one decent meal for their families, pay school fees, buy presents or get a job. Resentment is bound to grow unless the govt takes one impact problem (out of the myriad) and take a go at it. The issue of electricity should be tops because of its psychological effect (the perpetual blackout has become synonymous with the country's malaise), and its indication of a hopeful future, that things are going to be different now.
ELECTRICITY:
The president recently toured our crappy power stations which have for too long become the shelter of sheep, goats and other slithering animals taking advantage of the quiet surroundings. The president promised to light up Freetown and all twelve district headquarters. I don't think it is rhetoric at all. WE CAN DO IT! This is how:
NACSA, which has wasted about $100 million on about 1000 lousy projects with zero economic effect, still has about $50 million undisbursed cash at hand. That is money that can be used to buy the 2MW provincial generators and the 17MW thermal station for Freetown that could be in place to illuminate Sierra Leone by Christmas. We will get these stations while we continue our bilateral negotiations with the UN and friendly nations. Our development partners will respect us for it because they will see that we mean business; that we are not just going around panhandling like an international 'miskina'.
As for the thievery of electrical cables and wiring, just deploy a squad of cops and soldiers and tag them as the new Electrical Crimes brigade. That will stop the sabotage immediately. Let's get cracking, Mr. President. Let's change rhetoric into reality!
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 17:00:38 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
Entered From: at 206.216.34.251
Message:
"Changing rhetoric into reality" is not as easy as you believe. Your 30 days solution to the problem is a very unrealistic expectation of what even the most efficient, best organized and best resourced government can achieve in such a short time. As His Excellency did say, "The rest of the country has not had electricity for the past two decades and this is a serious situation”. The President's admission of the problem is a sign of courage and sincerity and he has clearly associated with the sufferings of the people. After ten politically catastrophic years, the new government’s challenge will be to go beyond the band-aid approach and identify lasting solutions to the country’s energy problems.
Project funding and I believe the unexpended NASCA balances are subject to bilateral/multilateral funding agreements and cannot be simply diverted to other uses outside the scope of the projects for which they are meant. Funding for a project can only be used for the activities within the scope and the physical limits defined by the project descr1ption.
“I’m not going to proffer any solutions now…” the President said, but I am sure he and his newly appointed Ministers will be coming out with short, medium and long term plans to address a problem which “has been given a number one priority…” on his agenda. Let us be fair and afford the new team the time to provide us with a realistic and comprehensive calendar of how, where and when things will happen.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 19:03:50 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Olu,
I understand that translating rhetoric to reality is not an easy task, but it is leaders of vision who have always marshalled men and women of good will to achieve seemingly impossible dreams. I have faith in EBK and I have faith in the average Sierra Leonean.
Just because the country did not have electricity in two decades does not mean we cannot have light by christmas. Maybe the reason for the silent light posts in the past is because of incompetent leaders who paled and became jelly-kneed when confronted by the problem. If the president is really serious about solving the light problem, there are companies here that can supply not only the generators, but also the expertise to run them...and that is no band aid.
I just used the NACSA stash as an example of fund availability.
You said that the "... unexpended NASCA balances are subject to bilateral/multilateral funding agreements and cannot be simply diverted to other uses outside the scope of the projects for which they are meant." Olu, that is the bureaucracy speaking. The tens of millions of dollars that NACSA has misused by funding wretched PR projects that have no economic viability or social value for the community is a national scandal waiting to explode. Any president worth his salt should be able to justify to donors why electrification is a far better enterprise than the present rubbish NACSA strategy of building decrepit shacks, and market places no one sells in because the people have nothing to sell.
The earlier the president moves and is seen to try something, anything, about solving some of these problems, the more goodwill he will have. If he gets into long talking sessions with his bureaucrats, forget about it!
If there is no electricity or a cleaner Freetown by Christmas, then my friend, let's get ready for the bootleg CD's from the SLPP's own Emerson. For real, bro!
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: CHRIS
To: All
Date Posted: 21:15:13 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h247.191.213.151.ip.alltel.net at 151.213.191.247
Message:
Yes, I have always advocated that Our New Leader Grab a few easy Victories early on and lead with a sense of urgency. This kind of thinking, I do think he has, because he has already exhibited it, but, he has a long road ahead. The thing about the easy win tactic is that, it is based on a success cycle. Each little success leads to more success, more confidence which leads to bigger successes. Public sanitation and electricity which has been mentioned are a must, the sooner the better.
These issues are inescapable and there is no off-the shelf solution to them and many of our issues. He has to find creative solutions to our problems. One thing I do know is, with creativity and resiliency; he might not be able to micro-manage every problem but his can sure delegate responsibilities and hold Department heads accountable. For instance, it is in the police chief’s jurisdiction to ensure that our electrical wires and poles are not stolen, to do what he has to do, run sting operations and so on, if he wants to keep his job.
Being able to work through tough problems is a powerful elixir for anyone especially if you find that you are in over your head.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 20:06:40 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
Entered From: at 206.216.34.251
Message:
The peoples expectations are well founded, but I pray that the new team does not whitewash the lamp posts with neon paper only so that they can glow at christmas.
I believe in President Koroma's quest for quality and his ability to handle such matters of national importance with the efficiency and expediency they deserve. He delivered for the APC and will surely deliver for Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: REY WAL
To: All
Date Posted: 10:55:44 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The Public Cleanliness or a health and safety code act should be passed Immiediately by Parliament. This act would outlaw the deposition of trash in the streets of freetown and will levy stiff fines and penal Sanctions for violations of the law.
The City council should be empowered to make laws which would prohibit the same acts and subject an offender to the same fines and penalties.
How this can be accomplished:
Within 30 days the City Council can legislate ordinances which would declare certain areas of the City as TRASH PILOT PROJECT AREAS" All of the western area from Campbell street and Pademba Road Junction all teh way west to Juba Hills and beyond and from Congo Cross Bridge westward to include Aberdeen Congo town and Wilberforce and Lumley. If you are familiar with the geography of the western area you would have realised by now that these two prongs are not mutually exclusive and that they intersect at many places.
Every home within the Pilot project area will have to buy a trash can into which it will place all of its trash. There will be a scheduled pick up twice per week in these areas. Any regulation sized trash containers should be determined by consensus. These containers could easily be made by a company in Freetown that manufacturers Plastic water tanks in Freetown. These containers should be made with wheels, for easy portability.
On scheduled pick up days, all participants shall have placed their containers at scheduled pick up points within their areas possibly in front of their homes for Pick up.
All Home owners shall be given a rebate on their taxes for buying Trash containers as an incentive for complying with the rules, further all homeowners who comply with the law shall be given a free pick up for the period of the Pilot programme which shall not exceed three months. All home owners who do not comply with the rules shall be fined an amount to be fixed by statute.
Any such fines levied would be levied against the property. Fines shall accrue Interest and fees. failure to pay fines within a specified period of time, shall subject any home owner to a judicial procedure to sell their home or land to the highest bidder in a public sale for the recuperation of any monies owed to the state.
Any one who dumps trash in the streets shall be subject to a fine of no less that One Million leones. Any one who sends a minor child to dump trash in the streets shall be subject to double the fine plus any costs incurred by the government to clean it up.
After a Three month assessment of the program, a subsequent program should be taken into the eastern parts of Freetown on an area by area basis.
Create an enforcement mechanism and enforce the law to its LIMIT.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: Medk
To: All
Date Posted: 07:58:17 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: mohamedkamara@hotmail.com
Entered From: 5ac74b24.bb.sky.com at 90.199.75.36
Message:
What about allowing companies to provide bins or rubbish Skips at strategic positions. Household will be charge for the use of the bins and the skips paid for by the Govt or Council.
The Company providing the bins and skips will collect rubbish every day.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 11:42:47 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
You need a big public awareness campaign with something like this. I can still remember a campaign from my childhood when trash cans were rolled out on every street corner. The message was to help keep America clean. People have to see the benefits of something like this and then they have to take ownership of it. To this day, I hate litter. I don't allow my children to litter and whenever I see it I feel upset by it. This is a solution that every Sierra Leonean can have a hand in.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 12:51:53 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-184-48-82.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 71.184.48.82
Message:
Believe it or not, we had that in SL when I was going up. Pa Shaki (believe it or not) had his Keep the City clean campaign and I remember tractors pulling dumpsters, taking them to the city dumpsite.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 23:10:16 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
Did it work? You can't just legislate something. Drugs have been illegal forever but unfortunately addiciton is not down. Prostitution is called the oldest profession which means it's been going on since the beginning of time. There is plenty of legislation which has not been effective, probably because legislation on its own does not work.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 11:16:18 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
REY WAL,
I agree with you that unless we get tough with sanitation, we will always have a filthy city with all the attendant health problems. Look at how Singapore, Dubai and other clean cities in the west maintain their spotlessness: Very severe sanctions! I think Singapore whips you for spitting gum. I am not advocating that kind of severity, but some sensible sanctions should be enforced.
About the trash cans homeowners will be forced to buy? My only caution is that some people will not be able to afford it. For these people, the local govt should foot the bill.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: REY WAL
To: All
Date Posted: 12:22:16 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
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The local government does not have to foot the bill. Any OWNER of a piece of property should be mandated to provide trash containers for their property. If not the government shall provide it and lien the cost to the Property and earn interest from that. You would be given a certain amount of time to pay the lien, a payment plan of sorts with interest accruing. Government gives NOTHING for Free unless it is a public benefit like innoculations against diseases that can become an epidenmic.
Theres absolutely nothing worn with Public Floggings but not as a punishment for a first offence, rather it may be the result of continued violations of the laws. First you make a fine so steep that it will serve as a lesson for those who may want to violate the laws.
Subject: Re: LEGISLATE PUBLIC CLEANLINESS
From: REYWAL WATCHER
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Date Posted: 15:56:49 10/13/07 ()
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REY WAL = LAW YER SPELT BACKWARDS. CAN ONLY BE THE ERUDITE ONE ALIEU ISCANDARI WHO MAY BE GONE BOT STILL BE HERE. YOU GO BROTHER WITH THE GOOD IDEAS.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 10:07:55 10/13/07 ()
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"As for the thievery of electrical cables and wiring, just deploy a squad of cops and soldiers and tag them as the new Electrical Crimes brigade."--Mammy Blessing.
You are right, bra. Most often, the sobotage is done from inside the facility. When heads roll through dismissals and prosecutions, culprits will know things have changed. It is no secret, for example, that spare parts and fuel meant for generators, are among the essentials stolen with impunity. If you want to fight corruption, you must be willing to prosecute and jail convicted felons, regardless of tribal affiliations. So far, we have not shown the societal sophistication to punish those who menace the rest of society without regards for tribal or familial connections. We hope Koroma succeeds in ushering in the New Dawn Sierra Leone needs.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Democracy
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Date Posted: 11:21:20 10/13/07 ()
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Enviable, you are so right, they used to sell the fuel and the parts. The 'jebu' boys would carry the five gallons containers filled with diesel bought from them, 'engineers' and would sold to the drivers.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 11:59:46 10/13/07 ()
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When I was in Freetown, the "Jebu" boys at Bottom Mango {Wilberforce}, made no secret of the fact that stolen fuel, spare parts and essentials from government departments were the items on sale. No once cared to investigate the origins of such items, let alone think about prosecuting those who initiated the sales from inside those government deparments.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 07:40:46 10/13/07 ()
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#2 CLEAN UP FREETOWN
This is the easiest thing that can be done in that it is cheap, foreign expertise and imports are not required and you could say okay, lets start this in three days and be able to. If Freetown gets cleaned up and a way is implemented for it actually stay that way, since there are those that will be dumping their garbage in the streets, all man go collay pan we new president.
Mr. President, of all the challenges you face, duties you have to do for your populace, this is the easiest one. Light will obvioulsy take time, three meals a day for everyone, or chicken in every pot as they say, will take time, schooling and jobs will definitely take time. Cleaning up Freetown? You could have it so that by January, when the holiday makers are returning overseas they are telling everyone how incredibly clean Freetown is and how EK is the best thing to happen to Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: sgk
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Date Posted: 08:49:44 10/13/07 ()
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To my view electricity and water supply are very paramount at this moment. It is natural that people always volunteer to clean or do something for their country when they are happy about the situation of that country.
With the provision of these two basic necessities, i am quite confident that Sierraleoneans would do anything for
their country free of charge.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 10:20:26 10/13/07 ()
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Sgk, kudos for your electricity and water supply contribution. There are so many problems to solve that we may not even know where to begin.
Let's please explore Sam's sanitation idea for Freetown:
1) The government should order and install huge, mobile garbage bins (or contract it to a private company locally or in the diaspora).
2) A massive information campaign should be undertaken on radio, tv and the papers to educate people about garbage disposal in the streets.
3) Employ the unemployed youth as sweepers, cleaners and gutter cleaners at night (too many people and traffic congestion during the day). Pay a decent salary (every two weeks) and closely monitor the payrolls to avoid ghost workers.
4) Divide Freetown into sanitation regions headed by sanitation directors. Break up the regions further into streeets headed by sanitation supervisors. If this works, we can repeat this formula in the headquarter towns.
We could really end up with cleaner streets and happier, gainfully employed young people, if the govt is serious about tackling the country's many problems.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: SGK
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Date Posted: 11:27:56 10/13/07 ()
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What i am trying to say here is cleaning the country can be done voluntarily if the people are happy with the performance of the government. Our people are easy to win
over. Provide the basics and tell everyone that cleaning should be done at a specific time of the month or week say.
They would be very delighted to clean their environment.
The government does not need to even pay the youth. The money should be spent otherwise. If it was done during the NPRC dictatorship era, why not now when most people are happy with this government?
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 12:45:22 10/13/07 ()
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The post was "HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!" The electricity problem unfortunately, can not be fixed in thirty days. Pa Kabbah, whether he was lying or not I don't know, made it seem like by December this year, we would have light. Now the current government is saying 2009.
So again, sticking with the post, what can be done to make an impact in thrity days, clean the city. Obviously the filth is being cause by some of those living in Freetown, but there are others who are disgusted and unmotivated partly because when they look around their city, first thing they see is filth. You clean up, you motivate people. they have something to be excited about.
And we are not talking about a one time fix here. So yes, while you could mobilize people to volunteer, they won't be volunteering every week. We need paid folks who can do meaningful work and be proud of what they are doing and at the same time, feed their family.
Electricity is paramount and along with water, should be on top of the president's need to accomplish in the next six months' list. But as someone else stated somewhere else on this board, the honeymoon is over. Time to deliver and cleaning the city which in my opinion is the easiest to accomplish task at hand, would go a long way.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 11:58:17 10/13/07 ()
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Volunteerism does not really have a happy history in Sierra Leone. Many people who 'volunteered' to clean the streets during the NPRC's tenure only did so because they feared the beatings and molestation meted out to non-volunteers.
Even if all the people have well rounded tummies with oily tooth picks hanging from their greasy, well fed lips, and they are bathed in 24/7 electricity, most wouldn't want to fool around with Bormeh garbage and gutter crap.
The solution is to employ people for the job and pay them decent wages. It is a better, long-term strategy than volunteerism. You can put mechanisms in place to ensure that the sanitation enterprise does not become another unwieldy bureaucracy. Besides, you get the additional benefit of giving a decent job to the hopeless masses of unemployed youths.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: SGK
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Date Posted: 12:49:20 10/13/07 ()
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Mammy Blessings,
Your proposals are all fine on a long term bases. But i don't think they are feasible at this desperate moment.
Remember that Sierra Leone is the poorest country in the world except Niger if i am correct. If the government can
afford the cost i would rather see these tasks done simultaneously. What you are doing here is imposing western conditions on a country which is ranked the poorest in the world. Also remember that a baby creeps before it walks. I don't think those proposals are applicable at this moment when the people desperately need results. However, if EBK's government can afford it then he should go for it. I have got no right to underestimate his government. I am just suggesting that
the people take the issue of electricity and water more
seriously than the cleaning. Though a clean environment
would improve their health.
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 15:45:31 10/13/07 ()
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aybo ow una keen mek nor understand so? We all want light and water NOW. But that takes millions and time. Even if EK got a call from say the UK tomorrow and they told him they like what he is doing so far and to help him out, they will send brand new power generators and supply oil for a year and expertise to run and maintain the equipment guess what? To diassemble the machines, put them on a ship, get them to Freetown and set them up again, it will take at least 60-90 days. They post here is "HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!"
And besides, the filth is a symbol of how run down our country has gotten, being poor does not mean you have to be dirty. Besides, EK can turn on lights, but he can't maintain them if he can't keep Salone clean.
Can posters expound on how the govt can maintain cleanliness after the initial cleaning exercise. The reason I ask is because unlike here in the US, you can't have people put out their garbage so to speak. The bins will be gone before they even touch the pavement. And you can't have a dump on every corner. So what is a suggestion(s)?
Subject: Re: HOW EBK CAN MAKE AN IMPACT IN THIRTY DAYS!
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 13:30:35 10/13/07 ()
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I know that a baby creeps before it walks. However given the tough situation we are in, this baby is just gonna have to get up and run. All the problems that we have been talking about need to be confronted some time, if we are serious about getting the country out of the boondocks. I absolutely believe that we have the resources to get into the country mobile generators that are more powerful than anything we have ever had (check the unspent NACSA millions) before Christmas. This is not a Pa Kabba-like Bumbuma election hype. It is do-able and practical. Cleaning the streets of Freetown with salaried workers is also do-able and cost-effective at that. You actually can kill the unemployment bird and the unsanitary bird with one stone! SGK, believe me buddy, this is no imposition of western conditions. Those beautiful things we want our country to achieve will not happen unless we make a focused, determined effort.
Subject: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: Koboko
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Date Posted: 06:41:30 10/13/07 ()
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it was rumoured that the president has earmarked Bra Iscandri for the position of Minister of Justice. after taking a look at the ministrial list, Bra Iscandri's name has not featured so far. what happened? could it have been of a change of mind by Prezzo. i hope he is given a chance this time because he is very brilliant and has something to offer.
Subject: Re: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
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Date Posted: 09:23:31 10/13/07 ()
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Koboko,
Thanks for your reposit of faith in me. I am however not activly seeking an appointment to any position in sierra leone. I am gainfully employed in the US of A. However, If called by my president to serve, I will discuss that with the usual stake holders (my family) prior to making any decision to serve in any capacity. I would however decline a job as Minister of Justice as long as sierra leone has a death penalty statute which I would be constitunally obligated to uphold. I am simply put an anti death penalty activist. I will actively lobby this parliament and president to come into the fold of other nations, and abolish the death penalty.
In the history of sierra leone the death penalty has been mostly used against political opponents and President Koroma must lead the way in abolishing the death penalty in sierra leone, or precluding its use for any political crimes.
Of course that does not preclude my working within the department of Justice in another capacity.
I thought that I could leave this forum but unfortunately I couldnt stop peeping and responding to positive posts.
Stay Blessed.
Subject: Re: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
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Date Posted: 23:21:50 10/13/07 ()
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Alieu, you are not qualify to hold the position of Attorney-General and minister of justice because you are not a lawyer of a twenty year standing in Sierra Leone. That is the law.
Apart from that, please do not forget that Mr. Ernest Koroma has your past record and it does not meet his criteria.
Subject: Re: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: Sabanoh
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Date Posted: 06:57:51 10/14/07 ()
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Besides Alieu not meeting Ernest's criteria, Ernest will not leave his classmates,Frank Kargbo( who is an outstanding attorney in Freetown) and Idrissa Bassey to pick Alieu whose motives are not transparent. Alieu's stance against the death penalty is indicative of his respect or lack thereof for victim's right. He come from the school that murderers can and must be rehabilitated at the expense of the gov't and society even if they kill again after their initial incarceration.
Subject: Re: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: Sabanoh
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Date Posted: 06:53:57 10/14/07 ()
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Besides Alieu not meeting Ernest's criteria, Ernest will not leave his classmates,Frank Kargbo( who is an outstanding attorney in Freetown) and Idrissa Bassey to pick Alieu whose motives are not transparent. Alieu's stance against the death penalty is indicative of his respect or lack thereof for victim's right. He come from the school that murderers can and must be rehabilitated at the expense of the gov't and society even if they kill again after their initial incarceration.
Subject: Re: HAS PROZO CHANGED HIS MIND ON BRA ISCANDRI
From: KABBS KANU
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Date Posted: 09:38:36 10/13/07 ()
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Alieu, give me a call. I want to find out something from you.
Subject: SIERRA LEONE'S BLOOD DIAMONDS AND AMERICAN RAPPER
From: MOHAMEDBARIGUE
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Date Posted: 05:16:22 10/13/07 ()
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CNN IS TO SHOW A DOCUMENTARY ON CNN SATURDAY MORNING STARTING AT 7 AM WITH AN AMERICAN RAPPER WHO WENT TO SIERRA LEONE'S DIAMOND MINES TO DO A RAP VIDEO ON BLOOD DIAMONDS . NOT MUCH INFO AT THIS TIME.
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE'S BLOOD DIAMONDS AND AMERICAN RAPPER
From: PAUL WALL
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Date Posted: 08:34:07 10/13/07 ()
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TO BE SHOWN ON CNN TOMMORRO RAPPING ABOUT SALONE'S BLING
Subject: THIS IS SO VERY TRUE
From: reality
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Date Posted: 05:00:09 10/13/07 ()
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Welcome to the S.L.P.P. Forum
Re: Shame
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Posted by Why on October 13, 2007 at 04:49:28:
In Reply to: Re: Shame posted by x on October 13, 2007 at 04:02:20:
"Mannah believes in democracy, he writes objectively and such attributes cannot be taken away from him."
How can you take take away something from Mannah that he does not have?
You head-in-the sand people are the reason why the SLPP was demolished in the elections. You bury your head in the sand and refuse to see reality. So, when Margai broke away, you foolishly boasted he was no threat to the SLPP's victory. Now, you look like the fools you were for saying such nonsense.
But you still haven't learnt your lesson. Here you are agaqin praising a life-long loser like John Mannah who still can't even write english properly, as someone you have learnt a lot from. Do you like learning bad English? Do you like learning how to argue without sense? Do you like learning how to use bad words in public? Do you want to learn how to lie about things you are not?
Then go ahead and "learn" from John Mannah how not to write English and how not to argue, and how to lie about yourself, and how to use bad words in public. But leave me out of it. I don't share your view. I just wish Mannah would go and learn english and how to argue. Most of all, I wish John Mannah would go and learn some good home training so that he would stop trashing our forum with his rude words.
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Subject: Re: THIS IS SO VERY TRUE
From: I like this better
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Date Posted: 05:15:29 10/13/07 ()
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Welcome to the S.L.P.P. Forum
Re: Shame
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Posted by SLPP Veteran on October 13, 2007 at 04:33:38:
In Reply to: Shame posted by John Mannah fan on October 12, 2007 at 18:09:26:
You are right, my brother. The name John is disaster to our party. The two people abroad that made our party to lose the election because of their lack of home training, lack of logic, lack of grammar and lack of self-respect whenever they open their mouth in public are John Mannah and John Leigh. The two people inside Sierra Leone that made our party to lose the election becos of their corruption in Kailahun during the election are John Benjamin and John Karimu.
Of all of them, to my mind, John Mannah suffers the most from low self esteem. That is what makes him to look down upon himself. To cover up his low self-esteem, John Mannah tries to bring everybody down to his level (Pull him Down or PhD).
Because John Mannah don't respect himself, therefore he don't respect others. Don't you see how he use bad language in public? And how he cusses those that are his superiors left and right? The man is so conscious of his poverty that he hates anyone that is not poor like him. Because he is slow in thinking, he don't understand that he is an outlier. So, he thinks that people are like him -- that they want to be a minister in politics to steal money.
I blame our party, too. If our party SLPP did not tolerate people like John Mannah, it would have expelled John Mannah from the party from the first time he made our party look bad to the public. That was when our party should have realized that John Mannah is not all correct in his head.
Is it not a man whose head is not correct that goes around boasting that he is something that everyone knows he is not? That's John Mannah for you. He will not see that he is disgracing himself and our party every time he opens his moutn in public.
So he won't shut his mouth like you asked him to. Only the SLPP can shut him up by expelling him from our party.
Subject: Re: THIS IS SO VERY TRUE
From: Calling Toegondoe Sagbah to the Podium
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Date Posted: 05:24:55 10/13/07 ()
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Re: An Apology and Plea to Debunge and Fellow Forumites
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Posted by Joseph Marrah on October 13, 2007 at 05:12:42:
In Reply to: Re: An Apology and Plea to Debunge and Fellow Forumites posted by Toegondoe Sagbah on October 12, 2007 at 22:59:53:
It takes a man to admit a fault, but it takes a man of integrity to appologize.
Toegondoe,
It takes a man of integrity to speak the truth. Has John Mannah apologized to Mohamed jalloh, the victim of his treacherous and malicious lies?
I hope you will start acting like a man of integrity by stopping this mealy-mouthed talk about Mannah being a man of integrity. Do men of integrity go arround telling lies about soemone they do not know? What man of integrity will make allegations about someone and when asked to prove them, he runs away? You people have to learn to speak the truth for a change. Otherwise, you risk becoming just like John Mannah -- a man so lacking in integrity that he tells lies about those he wishes to be like but can not quite work hard enough to become like them.
So, what does John Mannah do to avoid facing the painful reality that he is not up to the high standards of those he wishes to be like? He tries to pull them down! Do you call such a person like John Mannah a man of integrity? That would just expose you as lacking integrity yourself.
Subject: THIS TIME IT IS NOT EKUTAY BUT TOLONGBO OR TAMARANEH
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 04:40:52 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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The days of EKUTAY were long gone;
When the new APC born.
Now it is TOLONGBO
From Kenema to Songo.
You can leave Freetown for Bo
If you need to eat some freetambo.
It can also be TAMARANEH
When what failed us was WUTETEH.
So let us look to the future
We know it will be a brighter Salone for sure.
Subject: Discount cigarettes on-line
From: Cigarettes on-line
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Date Posted: 03:09:25 10/13/07 ()
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Subject: Re: Discount cigarettes on-line
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 04:22:12 10/13/07 ()
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While people are struggling so hard to kick the habit you are busy promoting cancerogenics.Please spare us self-destruction.
Subject: Cornelius Hamelberg went Ballistics:Cuss Cuss nor mix
From: Alieu Oil
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Date Posted: 00:40:19 10/13/07 ()
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Ignorant son of bitch, I asked you for your name.
I am somebody else you see Mr. Ignorant Imbecile of many lies.
And which ideas are you talking about?
You don't know what an idea is.... perhaps you don't know the kind of idiot you are and what do you know apart from telling lies?
Subject: RUMOURS, QUESTIONS and COMMENTS
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 22:23:57 10/12/07 ()
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To start with, we've got to feel free and be prepared to be a bit more tolerant. Some of the questions I may ask are just natural and in fact, they might just as well help us examine the elasticity of tolerance for some of our emerging APC diehards. Frankly, I can afford to be APC, but not a diehard because the word 'diehard' is too close to 'fundamentalist' and both can bring 'terminal' repercussions to someone in the region where I live.
Well, we all hear things about our country, the President and his Cab….
Now, wait a minute! Haven't I heard this 'Cab' thing before?
Oh, yes! It's got to do with the Vice President, Sam Sumana.
You see, what I had in mind, while trying to get a topic of discussion, was the word 'Cabinet'. But then, the caption shouldn't be unnecessarily long. So I decided to cut it short with the word 'Cab'. Funnily, it open up this issue I earlier read in this very forum about the VP being a former 'Cab' driver. [Strictly American VoCab.! – (There you go again, running from one Cab to another!).] But in our normal speak, we say, 'Running from one Taxi to another fighting to make a living'! So, should my caption now end with 'The President and his Cab Driver,' or 'The President and his Former Cab Driver'? Of course, neither! But it tells us one thing: As long as you are in the political spotlight, you should be prepared to be ridiculed. Not defamed though!
Yet, does it sound good to say: 'Running from one cab to another fighting to make a living'? After all, you could be sacked in one cab company and you go search for another.
Well, VP Sumana allegedly came with it! I mean lots of cab money!
No! 'Cab dollars' sounds better. [In my region, we say petrodollars.]
And delivered to the APC stalwarts before the elections.
RUMOUR No. 1: We heard that the money was from a pool of sympathizers who aspire to become potential partners in the development of Sierra Leone.
QUESTIONS: What are the expectations of these sympathizers? Will they remain sincere in their objective to help in the development of Sierra Leone? Are they waiting for Serious Sam to be well established and they surface to milk the returns of their previous investment? Could it have been a one-man show or does our country stand to bleed in future?
COMMENT: If you feel uncomfortable, then forget it. It's just a notable rumour.
RUMOUR No. 2: Just after taking office, President Koroma briefly visited Liberia, Guinea and Burkina Faso. Rumour has it that the real motive for going to these three countries was to block/arrest SLPP former ministers who would attempt to escape prosecution from the impending corruption heat in Sierra Leone.
QUESTIONS: Was there any grand plan for the PMDC leader, Charles Margai, to unleash a campaign of witch-hunting against former SLPP ministers before or after the elections? If yes, then why didn't he get the post of Attorney General? Is he going to be Interior Minister? If no, then forget it. It's just a notable rumour. Is Burkina Faso still important in the sustainance of peace in Sierra Leone?
COMMENT: President Koroma may have impressed a lot by playing his cards close to his chest. He's got to prove that he is his own man. He deliberated omitted Charles Margai in the first release of Ministerial positions to establish the fact that he is in control. Thus, we see the logic behind the two installments of releases! Could be more that two…..who knows!
RUMOUR No. 3: We heard that Hon. Zainab Bangura once worked in the same Insurance Company that the President, Ernest Bai Koroma, was heading.
QUESTIONS: Was it a good relationship? When she eventually left, did she misbehave or was it an amicable parting? Did he appoint her as Foreign Minister because he knows her output or because he wants to prove to her that he harbours no ill feelings and that she has been forgiven, or both?
COMMENT: We love her for being tough. But then, when she happens to find herself working under the same soft-spoken boss, she only has to remember that he is now the president. Perhaps, it will make a difference.
Next issue: There'll be more Essetial Rumours and Comments but on other topics like Oil/petrol discovery in Sierra Leone, the solution to the APC in-fighting, the disappointment of Hon. Abu Bakar Jalloh [Ambassador to Saudi Arabia was his preference] and more. Stay netted. For now, I just need to get some sleep!
Remember though: If you feel uncomfortable, then it's just a notable rumour.
Subject: Re: RUMOURS, QUESTIONS and COMMENTS
From: Somtin Butu!
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Date Posted: 05:20:57 10/13/07 ()
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There are so many rumours about Oil in Sierra Leone. That is something I am dying to get info, any info, about!
Subject: RUMOURS, QUESTIONS and COMMENTS
From: Mensa
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Date Posted: 22:23:06 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
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To start with, we've got to feel free and be prepared to be a bit more tolerant. Some of the questions I may ask are just natural and in fact, they might just as well help us examine the elasticity of tolerance for some of our emerging APC diehards. Frankly, I can afford to be APC, but not a diehard because the word 'diehard' is too close to 'fundamentalist' and both can bring 'terminal' repercussions to someone in the region where I live.
Well, we all hear things about our country, the President and his Cab….
Now, wait a minute! Haven't I heard this 'Cab' thing before?
Oh, yes! It's got to do with the Vice President, Sam Sumana.
You see, what I had in mind, while trying to get a topic of discussion, was the word 'Cabinet'. But then, the caption shouldn't be unnecessarily long. So I decided to cut it short with the word 'Cab'. Funnily, it open up this issue I earlier read in this very forum about the VP being a former 'Cab' driver. [Strictly American VoCab.! – (There you go again, running from one Cab to another!).] But in our normal speak, we say, 'Running from one Taxi to another fighting to make a living'! So, should my caption now end with 'The President and his Cab Driver,' or 'The President and his Former Cab Driver'? Of course, neither! But it tells us one thing: As long as you are in the political spotlight, you should be prepared to be ridiculed. Not defamed though!
Yet, does it sound good to say: 'Running from one cab to another fighting to make a living'? After all, you could be sacked in one cab company and you go search for another.
Well, VP Sumana allegedly came with it! I mean lots of cab money!
No! 'Cab dollars' sounds better. [In my region, we say petrodollars.]
And delivered to the APC stalwarts before the elections.
RUMOUR No. 1: We heard that the money was from a pool of sympathizers who aspire to become potential partners in the development of Sierra Leone.
QUESTIONS: What are the expectations of these sympathizers? Will they remain sincere in their objective to help in the development of Sierra Leone? Are they waiting for Serious Sam to be well established and they surface to milk the returns of their previous investment? Could it have been a one-man show or does our country stand to bleed in future?
COMMENT: If you feel uncomfortable, then forget it. It's just a notable rumour.
RUMOUR No. 2: Just after taking office, President Koroma briefly visited Liberia, Guinea and Burkina Faso. Rumour has it that the real motive for going to these three countries was to block/arrest SLPP former ministers who would attempt to escape prosecution from the impending corruption heat in Sierra Leone.
QUESTIONS: Was there any grand plan for the PMDC leader, Charles Margai, to unleash a campaign of witch-hunting against former SLPP ministers before or after the elections? If yes, then why didn't he get the post of Attorney General? Is he going to be Interior Minister? If no, then forget it. It's just a notable rumour. Is Burkina Faso still important in the sustainance of peace in Sierra Leone?
COMMENT: President Koroma may have impressed a lot by playing his cards close to his chest. He's got to prove that he is his own man. He deliberated omitted Charles Margai in the first release of Ministerial positions to establish the fact that he is in control. Thus, we see the logic behind the two installments of releases! Could be more that two…..who knows!
RUMOUR No. 3: We heard that Hon. Zainab Bangura once worked in the same Insurance Company that the President, Ernest Bai Koroma, was heading.
QUESTIONS: Was it a good relationship? When she eventually left, did she misbehave or was it an amicable parting? Did he appoint her as Foreign Minister because he knows her output or because he wants to prove to her that he harbours no ill feelings and that she has been forgiven, or both?
COMMENT: We love her for being tough. But then, when she happens to find herself working under the same soft-spoken boss, she only has to remember that he is now the president. Perhaps, it will make a difference.
Next issue: There'll be more Essetial Rumours and Comments but on other topics like Oil/petrol discovery in Sierra Leone, the solution to the APC in-fighting, the disappointment of Hon. Abu Bakar Jalloh [Ambassador of Saudi Arabia was his preference] and more. Stay netted. For now, I just need to get some sleep!
Remember though: If you feel uncomfortable, then it's just a notable rumour.
Subject: Re: RUMOURS, QUESTIONS and COMMENTS
From: news
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Date Posted: 04:45:43 10/13/07 ()
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People who have used to be in the corridor of power, never learn to forget their gains and sordid mind to plunder their nations'wealth.When they lose their priviledges and influence, they conjured evil tactics to scare away those who inherited the sorry State, they pillaged.
How many new appointees can be pointed at and tag him/ner with malfeasance. There is no one. The APC appointment brings hope and nobody will curse these honourable gentlemen.
2007 will ever be recorded as the year that God gives Sierra Leoneans a golden opportunity to move forward with hope and victory.
Our people will stand by those who sing praises to our great people who will puh Sierra Leone forward.
Subject: Re: Additional cabinet
From: Bankie Liba man
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Date Posted: 21:44:39 10/12/07 ()
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Any word on the new cabinet?
Subject: Re: Additional cabinet
From: Alieu Oil
To: All
Date Posted: 23:51:05 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
1.Defence - Mr.Palo Conteh
2.Internal Affairs, Local Government and Rural Development - Mr.Dauda Sulaiman Kamara
3.Marine Resources - Dr.Moses Moisa-Kapu
4.Energy and Power - Haja Afsatu Kabbah
5.Tourism and Cultural Affairs - Mr.Hindolo Trye
6.Social Welfare Gender and Childrens Affairs - Mrs.Musu Kandeh
7.Education Youths and Sports - Dr. Minkailu Bah
8.Employment and Social Security - Mr.Minkailu Mansaray
9.Trade and Industry - Mr. Alimamy Koroma
10.Transport and Aviation - Mr. Kemoh Sesay
Subject: To what tribe does Ernest Koroma really belong?
From: Alpha Barrie
To: All
Date Posted: 21:41:12 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: Gibril16@yahoo.com
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There has been some conflicting report at home and abroad about Ernest Koroma in relation to his tribal affiliation. Does anyone know for sure his tribe? If so, please explain in detail.
Subject: Profile: Ernest Bai Koroma, Sierra Leone’s new head of state
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 02:27:40 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Profile: Ernest Bai Koroma, Sierra Leone’s new head of state
By Mohamed Samura, APA correspondent, Freetown
APA-Freetown (Sierra Leone) Sierra Leone’s newly elected President Ernest Bai Koroma, commonly called Ernest by his closest friends was born on October 2, 1953, in Makeni, capital of the Northern Region, one of eight siblings and the eldest of four boys.
Koroma’s parents are both from the north, his father from the Temne ethic group, the dominant ethic group in the north and the second largest in the country and his mother, a Limba. He was brought up as a Christian in the Muslim dominated northern part of the country.
Koroma attended the Sierra Leone Church Primary School, then the Government Secondary School (for boys) in Magburaka in the Northern Region. He later went to Fourah Bay College, University of Sierra Leone. He graduated in 1976 from Fourah Bay College following which he taught at the St Francis Secondary School in Makeni before joining the Sierra Leone National Insurance Company in 1978. He however moved over to the Reliance Insurance Trust Corporation (Ritcorp) in 1985 and became its Managing Director in 1988, a position he outstandingly held up to March 2002.
Koroma then resigned from Ritcorp to join politics and he was unanimously elected as leader/chairman of the opposition All People’s Congress (APC), and its presidential candidate for the March 2002 presidential elections. He however lost the elections to the ex-President Ahmed Tejan Kabbah, who won by over 60% in the first round. As leader of the APC, Koroma was however hit by a series of court cases against his youthful leadership and relying on the 2002 APC Constitution, he was eventually stripped of the party leadership by the Supreme Court of Sierra Leone in June 2005.
However, he was again re-elected leader of the APC at a national delegates’ conference in September 2005 and went on to become the minority leader in the Sierra Leone Parliament until his election to the presidency this year.
Under his leadership, the APC swept virtually all the seats in the Western Area during the last local government elections of 2004. This was in spite of the fact that some of the old guard of the APC dismissed his leadership as a matter of child’s play. However, President Koroma’s leadership style is a blend of old and new.
An astute business man and a Chartered Insurer, President Koroma is also a Fellow of the West African Insurance Institute (WAICA), an Associate of the Institute of Risk Management in the UK and a Member of the Institute of Directors in the UK. He also holds an unblemished and enviable public service record and spouts himself as a darling of democracy, the rule of law, human rights, good governance and probity, freedom of the press, transparency and accountability. Indeed, his admirers say he is not only a fine gentleman but also the hope for Sierra Leone’s future.
President Koroma, who will turn 54 years old on Tuesday October 2nd, was put forward as presidential candidate by the APC congress as "the democratic hope for Sierra Leone" which they described as "a country at the cross roads of change from the old order to a younger generation of visionary leadership of hope and development".
Koroma is tall, handsome, with a ’leadership jaw’ and a commanding presence. He is happily married to Sia Nyama Koroma from Kono District in the Eastern Province, ex-pupil of Annie Walsh Memorial School who holds a post-graduate degree in Bio-Chemistry from London University. His matrimonial blend transcends tribal and regional politics. They are blessed with two children, Alice and Dankay. He is widely travelled to the world’s leading democracies and beyond. He has vowed to be implacable in fighting corruption. "There will be no sacred cows. Everybody will be under scrutiny", he said in his election manifesto.
Subject: Re: Profile: Ernest Bai Koroma, Sierra Leone’s new head of state
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 04:44:04 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
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A brother I knew back in makeni told me yesterday that his dad is Loko and mother Limba. He is not Themene. His ethnic identity however, is insignificant. For most of us what is important is that he delivers.
Subject: Re: Profile: Ernest Bai Koroma, Sierra Leone’s new head of state
From: Limba-Loko-Temne-Madingo
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Date Posted: 10:28:01 10/13/07 ()
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We know for sure that his mother is a Limba from Kamabai, Briwa Chiefdom. As for his father, it has bee rumored that he has a Madingo connection. How? I don't know!!! Time will tell and historians will write it his biography.
Subject: Re: To what tribe does Ernest Koroma really belong?
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 02:19:58 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
If your father hails from Yonnibana and you were born in Makeni to which tribe do you actually belong? Please do the thinking and figure it out for yourself!
Subject: Re: To what tribe does Ernest Koroma really belong?
From: Amadu Kabbah
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Date Posted: 00:48:29 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: amadutkabbah@yahoo.com
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Message:
If it is so important that you may not want to go without an answer, I think I know his tribe. He is a Sierra Leonean.
Subject: Re: To what tribe does Ernest Koroma really belong?
From: BouBakree
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Date Posted: 21:44:02 10/12/07 ()
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And why is this information so important Sir?
Subject: Candid One, Why Selleth Thy Soul To SLPP ?
From: Fen Plaba
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Date Posted: 21:39:30 10/12/07 ()
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Candid One,
I have noticed that you are one of the most intransigent SLPP ideologues in cyberspace. In posting after posting, you have tried to savage the duly elected president with your corny witticisms that belie your growling resentment at the APC for giving the 'Koboko' to your beloved SLPP, in the Mother of all electoral trouncings. When your incompetent SLPP was making a mockery of good governance and integrity, you were one of the pot-bellied cheerleaders assidiously singing 'bellah' songs for Kabbah and company. For eleven years, you were as silent as a lonely grave as your SLPP kith and kin robbed the country blind. Why are you now howling, like a rabid wolf, at the APC who are barely a month into their mandate? Are you scared that the rising sun is going to succeed massively even as the hobbled SLPP yelps from the green gangrene setting in from their self-inflicted corruption?
Bad hart nor mix O, Mister man. Whether you like it or not, Ernest will succeed and there's not a darn thing you or the other batolistas of the palm tree can do about it!
Subject: Re: Candid One, Why Selleth Thy Soul To SLPP ?
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 08:48:31 10/13/07 ()
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Is there anything wrong with being loyal to a party? Not every sierra leonean is an opportunist .SLPP yesterday, APC today, PMDC tommorrow. We will stay in SLPP and ensure that it makes the necessary changes.
SLPP lost the elections because of over confidence and arrogance. it had nothing to do with the help of APC fanatics in the diaspora. The electorates booted them out ,specifically Tejan Kabba's insensitivity to the plight of the people.
President Koroma is a novice , His inexperience is shown in his cabinet appointments. You do not appoint an auditor as a finance minister. You appoint a financial analyst who has banking or business experience. Someone who can negotiate with the world bank and international business. He needs someone looking forward who will be planning Sierra Leonean's financial future for the next ten years not some one who is going to investigate the past ten years. Why waste precious resources in looking backwards.
Hire an international firm to do the audits and let the finance minister concentrate on Sierra Leone's financial development. David Carew should have been part of the audit team whilst qualified former bank governers like Sampha and other qualified financial whizzes considered for the minister.
Even, If the govt audits all the ministeries , I doubt that they will recover more than $15,000,000 of looted funds if any.Look at the cost benefit.You need to spend more time building International goodwill. It is easier to send names of the ministers to interpol and forensic accounting companies to trace the funds than to waste ministry time.
The bottom line ,the loyal SLPP are not going keep quiet , they will criticize APC when the need arises. This is a democracy not a dictatorship. It is easy to crticize when in the oposition. Now it is time to deliver. I am not impressed so far. I praise Ernest for keeping away the old APC.
Subject: Re: Candid One, Why Selleth Thy Soul To SLPP ?
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 11:00:48 10/13/07 ()
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Kamara, as eloquently as you may try to convince us that the SLPP emperor was nattily dressed, the fact remains that, your incompetent potentate was naked. SLPP did not lose the "elections because of over confidence and arrogance", as you tried to spin it. They lost because they were incompetent, left the economy in a shambles and did not build even one "four road turn table" during their eleven years in power. They were also very, very corrupt. I am sure SLPP corruption is something you and I can agree on.
I disagree with you, however, that David Carew should not be appointed Finance Minister because he is an auditor. We've had plenty finance whiz kids and bankers in that ministry. Well....look at the result. Very unimpressive indeed! Just having a surgeon-specialist as Minister of Health is not going to solve the country's health crisis. What we need is a good manager who will shape up the ministry, and David Carew definitely fits the bill.
Kamara, I mean no disrespect to your party but EBK has more vision and competence in his little pinky than all the SLPP presidents and prime ministers put together. Get ready to be amazed by sheer genius, my friend. I will bet you $100 that you will 'cross-carpet' to the APC after Ernest has finished polishing off those problems that scared the bejesus out of your sorry party. O-KARMA, DIS NOR TO PIKIN BIZNESS O. IF U NOR DRINK GBANGBAN NOR ENTER YAR O!
Subject: Re: Candid One, Why Selleth Thy Soul To SLPP ?
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 20:16:51 10/13/07 ()
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Mammy blessing, I am a loyal SLPP supporter that will stay to make changes. I can never crosscarpet to APC. If I was going to do that , I would have done that long ago as a cousin of mine late AB Kamara was a VP for APC at one time.
Lets face it , Ernest or Charles are nowhere as intelligent as Soloman Berewa. Berewa is a lawyer and accountant. Berewa was not a savy poltician or orator. If he were trained politician, he would have known not to trust the people who told him the north was solidly behind him.
I think , you better visit Sierra Leone to see what SLPP did in 11 years. Starting with the airport. It is 1000 times better than it was in 1992.
Ernest is a beneficiary of APC chronoism. I agree that David Carew is the best FInance minister that Sierra Leone has had for a long time., but the Finance position should not be given to an auditor. It should be a person with experience in international banking like Sampha Koroma. The nation does not need a finance minister looking ten years backwards, it needs a minister looking forward ten years.
Rome was not built in a day . I do not expect Ernest to solve Sierra Leone's problems in 5 years. Sierra Leoneans have to do that. The govt can create an environment in which individuals can realize their dreams without fear. SLPP did that. International business had started coming back, Airlines had started coming. Go to the supermarkets in Willkinson road they are full with everything. This would trickle down to the poor man later like in every capitalistic nation.
APC?PMDC enjoy your five years because you would be booted out if you do not deliver. Do not make the SLPP arrogant mistake that money can buy the Sierra Leonean electorate.
Subject: Re: Candid One, Why Selleth Thy Soul To SLPP ?
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 23:30:58 10/13/07 ()
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"APC?PMDC enjoy your five years because you would be booted out if you do not deliver"---Kamara.
Agreed, Brother Kamara. However, I believe that Ernest is gonna succeed. Some of us are very dogged about bringing change that the average man in the street will feel. We will continue to offer solutions and raise hell, and push, nudge and shove until change is effected...to avoid the electoral guillotine in 2012! Always enjoyed my exchanges with you Okama. You have never folded like a cheap camera before. A worthy and patriotic Sierra Leonean indeed. Sure we cannot cajole you to crosscarpet, buddy? Enjoy the rest of the evening sir.
Subject: SLPP and the Mining Contracts.
From: Kabudu Gen
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Date Posted: 20:46:17 10/12/07 ()
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The corrupt mining contracts that the SLPP government signed with shady mob bosses, particularly from the former Soviet bloc, needs to be urgently reviewed. For example, a shadowy refugee from the law, the Romanian criminal Vasile Frank Timis was virtually sold about half of Sierra Leone, to dig, blast and bulldoze for diamonds, as a result of the corrupt contracts he signed with the SLPP government. Timis is the head of Sierra Leone Diamond Company, which is constantly dynamiting the area around Koidu as it tries to crush the Kimberlite dykes. What do the people of Sierra Leone get from this odious business deal? Next to nothing! A measly 1.5% of profits, which equals Zero, after clever Hollywood accounting and under-the-table money exchanges.
President Koroma, please review SLDC’s twenty licenses and toss them out if a whiff of corruption stinks through. We need the money to grow the economy and fund the socioeconomic promises.
http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_200575.shtml
Subject: CABINET UPDATE
From: Newsflash
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Date Posted: 20:10:33 10/12/07 ()
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Rev Kabs, please provide Forumites with the updated list of APC Cabinet Ministers. I hear that Haja Afsatu Kabba is Minister of Energy and Hindolo Sumanguru Trye is Minister of Tourism. Is is true?
Subject: Mr President dae in full control bra
From: Law
To: All
Date Posted: 18:10:22 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: delaw80@hotmail.com
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Front page posting to the other on cocorioko it is all glory for poyo boy EBK and the good work he is doing. Of course it is cocorioko so what should we expect? goodies about APC for sure. If i should deviant from that and post anything different bra Kabs will either call forum police to delete my writing or thunderbolt vernons will storm with response and name calling like "you SLPPer" etc etc. Honestly EBK is doing a good job especially after having a taste of his first official monthly salary. Like Tejan k did with SLPP, EBKoroma seats and listens attentively to APC folks as they yap and yap in there secret meetings but when he comes out in the open he does the opposite. His first cabinet is a clear example, the opportunists that gave up there jobs, sold their houses and ran to Freetown for a job from Koroma are complainings that he does not listen to advice and the advices are the promises that are yet to be fulfilled. Fanatics like Victor high barb FOH are a little on easy because of the route EBK is taking. There is still hope anyways for these unpatriotic folks because the parastaltals, oversea appointments are yet to come, trust me if EBK continues on the path is he on now and appoint the right people in the right place devoid of party, regional politics and tribal sentiments the first zombies to complain will be the disgruntled APCer's that are runing back and forth from state house everyday, they have nothing left to turn back to so by all means possible EBK should give them a job. I can name five that left The States throwing away there scrubs from the 20 year old nursing home job and are now in suits parading the corners of Freetown as EBK's entourage/special assistants. If it becomes a free for all appointment, i hope cocorioko will be remembered for the propaganda role it played and at least Rev Kabs be considered for a position in The ministry of misinformation please.Koodoos poyo boy EBK, keep up the good work
Subject: Re: Mr President dae in full control bra
From: The Lover
To: All
Date Posted: 22:50:16 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
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Pretty interesting isn't it, reading inputs from two top folks. One revealed as the other enjoyed the sanctuary of anonimity. Yet I happen to love the 'Bra' ending of the postings! Sounds poetic and revealing.
Subject: Re: Mr President dae in full control bra
From: Somtin Butu!
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Date Posted: 20:51:37 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
You hart warm O, my mans! Nar for take am wasy O. 18,000 more days of warm hart go cook you liver, bra!
Subject: FOR MR. MOHAMED DARIGUE PLEASE
From: krio boy
To: All
Date Posted: 20:01:34 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: krioboy@yahoo.com
Entered From: wnpgmb11dc1-161-174-190.dynamic.mts.net at 142.161.174.190
Message:
I left a call for you after my email to you was returned.Can you please reach back to my since i want more talks on this airline you just mentioned about at cocorioko please?
Subject: Re: FOR MR. MOHAMED DARIGUE PLEASE
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
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Date Posted: 04:55:02 10/13/07 ()
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Message:
THE CORRECT EMAIL ADDRESS IS: mohamedbarigue@yahoo.fr or bariguetransitetvoyages@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Mr President dae in full control bra
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 19:43:53 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
Miserable .Some Sierra Leoneans perform to get back something in return and you are one of them. I don't perform to get anything back.Otherwise , you would not have had a forum to express yourself . But you nar Salone man . Negativity...That's what defines us, so you nor miss road.
Subject: Re: Mr President dae in full control bra
From: Law
To: All
Date Posted: 19:57:41 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: delaw80@hotmail.com
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Message:
Kabs Kanu i am a proud SIERRA LEONEAN who prefer not to mortgage his heritage for anything. Reference to your comment "negativity and what defines us as Salone man" i hold my peace on that. My posting was to express my political view, if you do find it challenging there could have been a subtle way to react rather than implicatiing your so called "Salone Man" theory into it. Thanks for the forum and i must say also that you should appreciate me and several others who comment on issues that you find not in your favor, at least we keep you in business. Any bible verse for me to keep my Salone mind at ease with REV????
Subject: Benin 2-Salone 0
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 16:10:23 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
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Message:
Can someone please confirm these results.
Subject: Re: Benin 2-Salone 0
From: From BBC
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Date Posted: 16:34:52 10/12/07 ()
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Last Updated: Friday, 12 October 2007, 18:33 GMT 19:33 UK
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Mali and Benin qualify for Ghana
Kanoute's first-half goal sent Mali on their way
Mali and Benin secured places at the 2008 Nations Cup finals with victories in their final Group Nine games on Friday.
Mali were 2-0 winners against Togo in Lome and finish top of the group.
Riots broke out at the Kegue Stadium, with Togo fans angry at the defeat.
Benin beat Sierra Leone in Freetown by the same scoreline, and qualify as one of the three best runners-up.
The results dashed the hopes of Uganda, who finished second in Group Three with 11 points, the same tally as Benin.
But the Squirrels had the better goal difference, and will make their second appearance at the Nations Cup finals next January.
Fans injured in Lome
Freddi Kanoute put Mali ahead towards the end of the first half, converting a cross from Bassala Toure.
Mamadou Diallo sealed the victory in second-half stoppage-time, in a game that Togo had to win if they were to qualify.
Some Togo supporters threw objects onto the pitch after the second goal, and the BBC's Ebow Godwin says that some spectators were injured and taken to hospital.
A crowd of just 5,000 watched Sierra Leone squander chances as they went behind to Benin after 10 minutes through a deflected shot from Oumar Tchomogo.
Tchomogo scored again 20 minutes into the second half, capitalising on a defensive error.
The Leone Stars have failed to win at home since 2003.
Mali will be back at the Nations Cup finals after missing out on the 2006 edition in Egypt.
Subject: RE: NPA
From: Bankie Liber Man
To: All
Date Posted: 15:33:47 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gate02c.merckmedco.com at 167.211.190.2
Message:
How about closing the entire NPA power house and invest in newer machines.
Subject: Re: RE: NPA
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:06:43 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.84.3
Message:
All the government of Sierra Leone has to do is to ask for help in the provision and execution of a Modern POWER Generation regime.
New Power generating machines will be needed. The current rigged up machines could be phased out in stages. If the Government is serious in ending the dark ages of Salone, Mobile industrial Generators could be requested from the wealthier Nations as part of a aid related package.
The GOSL may have to get to the heart of the BUMBUNA delays, noting that with high GOLD and Diamond prices,the incentive to complete this project,could be lost in the quest for wealth by project participants.
The country must think in terms of being a regional POWER GENERATING CENTRE, capable of meeting the Power NEEDS of the MRU.The Aluminum Barons of the globe have thier eyes set on the massive Bauxite deposits of the MRU,and are willing to spend some big bucks on
creating this reality. Electricity capacity is a huge component the creation of Alumina from raw BAUXITE.
This is a simple and obvious piece of advice. The Energy planners of Salone and the MRU, must make use of the internet in executing their plans.
Subject: Plans To Blackmail Cocorioko
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 15:28:03 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-74-223-5.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 72.74.223.5
Message:
Another attentive person already started a thread on this, but I'm doing another one as the related article posted by Cocorioko is very very troublesome. First of Mr. Kanu, you know that I am a very strong supporter of what you are doing and quite appreciative of the fact that you have provided this news outlet for us. It is invaluable. However, your "Plans To Blackmail Cocorioko" article needs to be addressed. I started reading it, and it made you sound like Sylvia Blyden. These are not the types of articles that one reads about in the New York Times or other first class newspapers.
While this is obviously your newspaper, you have a journalistic obligation to understand that you are a public servant so to speak and to act accordingly. This is no longer about you. If someone shows up and threatens you with a gun because of Cocorioko, maybe that's newsworthy, but to start printing every congosah and jealousy attacks aimed at you, you're just swimming in the same pool as Sylvia Blyden.
Second and more importantly, I know Cocorioko actually claims to be partisan. You have that on your website. So to start crowing about being responsible for having removed the last administration, you not only have us questioning your alleged partisanship, but as a "man of God" aren't you begining to commit one or two of Pope Gregory's deadly sins? You taking glory for the change of leadership is an insult to Sierra Leoneans. The percentage of elgible voters who went out and did their civic duty was one of the highest in the world. I think they deserve the credit.
Also, obviously news gets around, but the majority of your readers reside outside SL and did not vote. I'm getting this picture of you running around in NJ telling everyone that will listen that you effected regime change back home. Acting like some of our loud mouthed fellow citizens overseas who thing they are big shots, are wont to act. As you can see, its not a pretty picture so stay humble.
When you're good, you're good and everyone will notice. You don't need to get on a soap box and start turning what is currently a respected newspaper, into your personal tabloid.
Another bit of advice, they have a term back home called pull him down (PhD) syndrome. So attacks will come your way, ignore them. They're a dime a dozen. You pay attention to them, you are wasting time on negative energy.
Lastly, please do not have Cocorioko start overly ingratiating itself to the government. One, it's no different from us calling Blyden a stooge of the SLPP and it obviously just throws your partisanship into the gutter. We Yone (or whichever one was Papa Shaki's newspaper) already exists for that.
Stay True.
Subject: HAPPY EID TO ALL PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 15:16:45 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
Happy Eid to all practicing muslims and plese don't forget to give charity to the needy.
Subject: Re: HAPPY EID TO ALL PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 16:12:08 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: hsl9.cait.osr.columbia.edu at 156.111.18.78
Message:
Thanks and May Allah reward you too. Every muslim (That can afford it) must give Zakatul-Fitri which is a charity/tax specifically for Eid-Ul-Fitri (We call Muduu). The needy must enjoy this day with such donations..
Subject: Re: HAPPY EID TO ALL PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:37:01 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
Message:
Eid UL Mubarak to all my Muslim brothers and sisters the world over.
May Allah accept our fasting and continues to surround us with his protection.
RABBANAAA 'AFRIG ALAYNAA SABRANW-WA SABBIT'AQDAAMANAA
WAN-SURNAA'ALAL-QAWMIL-KAA-FIRIIN. AMIN.
Subject: Re: HAPPY EID TO ALL PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
From: Mohamed Salleh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:39:04 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
They said to all practicing muslims, that excludes you who gets involved with juju and other occult matters.
Subject: Re: HAPPY EID TO ALL PRACTICING MUSLIMS.
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:24:56 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.242.28
Message:
Thanks my brother happy Eid to you too.
Subject: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: Mohamed Tayyib-Bah
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:14 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: tayyibbah@btinternet.com
Entered From: host86-151-65-62.range86-151.btcentralplus.com at 86.151.65.62
Message:
Can someone please send me Mathew's email address or phone number?
Mine is tayyibbah@btinternet.com
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: coincidence
To: All
Date Posted: 14:38:48 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
mr. manso,
are your ears deaf? why pick on matthew, what has he done to you. what is your reason for the hate? can you hear the message of president koroma? pls get off this forum, we dont need people like you.
are you jealouus of him? Grow up pls.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: Manso Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:16:02 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Thank you for your response Matthew Kamara alias Coincidence. You've done nothing to me, but when a fool like you try to use the press for your selfish motives, I am compelled to respond.
I cannot run away from this forum because I hold a different view. This forum is a melting pot for divergent views.
I do not hate you because I am superior to you in terms of anything. I was with you in the military, and you were not a match for my professional proficiency. I cannot sit quitely when military officers write incoherent articles. It is a disgrace to all officers.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: coincidence
To: All
Date Posted: 16:25:22 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
Manso,
I am no matthew kamara, he doesnt even know me, but when people full of hate like you try to tarnish someone else's character, i do step in.
That is Pride of Life, you are superior to matthew, that means you are a witch. Careful now, so that when you are coming down you will not step on his toe. Remember he that is down fears no fall
As I said, grow up, we dont need people like you. You dont worry, matthew will reply when he finds time, he is such a busy family man. I admire him a lot.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: Manso Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:21:13 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Tayyib-Bah,
I don't think you want to associate yourself with that sycophant (Matthew Kamara), who cannot write a well-organized article. I know him very well; of course, I know the two of you. If he continues to write lop-sided articles, I will have no option but to respond appropriately. He is not a defense specialist. He was a medicocre military officer when he was in the military.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: coincidence
To: All
Date Posted: 16:28:15 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
Jackal, God bless you dear, this makes two of us. Manso has just double word. i dont want to use the appropriate vocab, because he will never understand.
He spoke about superior, the man is a witch.
cocorioko get people like manso off this forum or better still tell him to grow up.
I have told him Matthew will reply him accordingly.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 15:17:53 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
How do you know he is not a defense specialist? What qualifies you as a defense critic? If you can write better than Matthew how about assessing your last sentence..."He was a medicocre military officer when he was in the military."
For the purpose of correction, it is a redundant sentence. Dont call the kettle black dude.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: taybii
To: All
Date Posted: 13:36:01 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
i sent his #, say thanks pls.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: coincidence
To: All
Date Posted: 13:21:57 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: favor@hotmail.com
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
his # is 281 565 1123
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: Lawrence Billgreyhood.
To: All
Date Posted: 18:45:26 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: caintdef.sbc.com at 144.160.130.16
Message:
ORLANGBA (Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara,) IF YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT, JUST DON’T POST ANY GARBAGE. YOUR ARTICLE GAVE ME “HEADACHE” I WAS CONFUSE WHEN I STARTED READING IT, AND GOT ENGULFED WITH THE NONSENSE. YOUR ADVICE IS A DISGRACE. I KNOW YOU WANT TO SHOW WHAT YOU CAN DO, BUT THIS BACKFIRES!!! I WAS FOLLOWING ANOTHER OFFICE (CAPTAIN KEN JOSIAH’S) ARTICLE AND I WAS PROUD OF THE MILITARY. AFTER READING YOURS, I DON’T KNOW WHAT TO SAY ABOUT THE MILITARY (IS IT FEW INTELLIGENT GUYS?) TAKE IT EASY BROTHER. I KNOW YOU’RE GIFTED IN OTHER AREAS BUT NOT IN WRITING. NICE TRY!
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: coincidence
To: All
Date Posted: 16:30:05 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
This makes three of us now. Manso get off this forum. fool!
you will hear from matthew himself.
Subject: Re: Major (rtd) Mathew S Kamara
From: Capt Yamao Khati
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:02 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip4da2899b.direct-adsl.nl at 77.162.137.155
Message:
Manso,
Maj Mathew Kamara was one on the finest officers we had in the RSLMF. You are tempted to refer to him as " mediocre " simply because he never held any major NPRC appointment, unlike his mates like Strasser, SAG, BIO et al. As colleagues, we knew why his mates mal-treated him, it had to do with malice, rather than qualification.
Subject: The Cocorioko forum is the best to me
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 11:49:24 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
I think the owners and the Moderator of this forum have been doing well and have failed to receive the praise due them. I have been visiting the SLPP and Awareness Forums as well,but one thing that fascinates me about this forum is the variety it provides.I may not be right but this is my opinion. The folks in the other two forums look tired and boring to me. Their names are insipid and the opinions straightjacket and boring. Here you meet more interesting characters like Subwanalai, Bambay Kamara, Candid Opinion, Patriot, Allieu Iscandari , Sylvester Johnny, Mbalu, Allieu Sesay, Chez Winnakabs, etc .who all provide variety .The topics dealt with by them are diverse and exciting. I will not give this forum for any other .I wish to thank the moderator for maintaining order and cleanliness on the forum. Just thought that you needed my 50cents on a forum that has become addictive to me, if you catch my drift.
Subject: Re: The ..Cease and Desist :)
From: Town Crier (the real one)
To: All
Date Posted: 15:43:42 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.208.251.22
Message:
Cease and desist...
This is an order from the ministry of handles at cocorioko. There is only one and only Town Crier on this forum. All others should desist from the use of that handle, and come up with their own handle.
Be warned..the pa don baranta
Subject: Re: The ..Cease and Desist :)
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:49 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.208.251.22
Message:
Cease and desist...
This is an order from the ministry of handles at cocorioko. There is only one and only Town Crier on this forum. All others should desist from the use of that handle, and come up with their own handle.
Be warned.
Subject: Re: Plans to Balckmail Cocorioko
From: Thomas Mahonney
To: All
Date Posted: 13:38:25 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: thomahonney@yahoo.com
Entered From: library-99.wireless.umass.edu at 128.119.194.99
Message:
I read with trepedition your claim that some news outlets may be planning to blackmail Cocorioko.
As a keen observer, this practice is not new in journalism in Sierra Leonean and perhaps in the murky world of politics. In fact, it has been and still is a common phenomenom in Sierra Leone; one reason well meaning Sierra Leoneans take news reports by some papers with a pinch of salt.
Notwithstanding this fact, you stated in your article that "we and progressive forces in Sierra Leone succeeded in defeating a whole incumbent government"; is this not a tacit admission that Cocorioko is partisan at best? Would such a stance not compromise your sense of fairness and independence in reporting events since your desire is to portray the APC in good light? Is it ethical for journalists to be partisan and how would this impact thier quest for truth?
While there is nothing wrong for journalists to have "vested interest" (whatever that means) in any party or for that matter government as you stated- "We have a special interest in this particular government"- it smacks off sycophancy and chauvinism. Taking such a posture has potential for failure to not see anything negative in a party or goverment of the day eventhough they may exist. This is certainly dangerous for our young democracy, and sadly, it has its roots in the odious days of the APC.
The fact is, Cocorioko needs to declare itself either as a party (APC) newsblog or draw a distinct line between blind political folly or as an independent voice of Sierra Leoneans in the diaspora.
Until then, your reporting will continue to be held suspect. Kudos for the blog!
Thomas Mahonney
Boston, USA
Subject: Re: Plans to Balckmail Cocorioko
From: Saloneman
To: All
Date Posted: 21:31:57 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-74-219-171.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 72.74.219.171
Message:
I was just as shocked when I read the "Plans to Blackmail Cocorioko" article. As soon as I read it, the first impression I got was that Mr. Kanu is beginning to sound a lot like Sylvia Blyden. You've created a wonderful entity here and we appreciate it. Do not turn it into a tabloid and worse, a tabloid about Babs kanu.
You know there is a lot of jealousy unfortunately in SL and as soon as you start making it, there are those that want to target you. Being that these attacks are a dime a dozen, please do not take it so serious that you start reporting everyday that Cocorioko is under attack. That's Sylvia's style. She lets you know that her newspaper is HER newspaper.
As I stated in my other post that mysteriously got deleted, your crowing about being responsible for the change in government is an insult to the Sierra Leoneans who went and did their civic duty. Most of your readers reside outside the country and did not vote, so lets temper the patting on the back.
You claim to be partisan, keep it so. Or if you want to be a mouth piece for the new govt, then state your intentions. Don't start ingratiating yourself to the new govt because that makes you no better than Sylvia Blyden who we all accuse of being a mouth piece for the SLPP.
When I read the blackmail article, I got a mental picture of you running around NJ telling every one who will listen that your powerful newspaper is responsible for bringing in the APC. You know like those loud mouthed of our citizens here and in the UK who like to run around at parties thinking they are big shots. Not a pretty picture as you can see, so stay true. You are a reverend, so try not to get corrupt. You are a journalist, maintain your journalistic integrity. Do not start sucking up the government now. Otherwise, congrats and thanks for the job you've done so far. Let's hope you continue on the right path.
Subject: Re: Plans to Balckmail Cocorioko
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:19 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-70-108-233-84.washdc.east.verizon.net at 70.108.233.84
Message:
Thomas Mahoney,
The problem with most Sierra leoneans is lack of appreciation and will always want and quest for praises where you are inclined. When Newspapers like Awareness Times and other SLPP's sponsored Newspaper where assasinating characters and reputation of APC members, where were you to have codemned or make a silly statement as you doing to the most liberal newspaper? These insidious attitudes of yours need to stop and try to be more patriotic and supportive of peoples possitive efforts.
Subject: Re: Plans to Balckmail Cocorioko
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 15:51:50 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.208.251.22
Message:
Liberal Paper???????? Is this the same Cocorioko that we talking about???? Bo duya nor make ar choke.
Patriotism has nothing to with blind support of your government and its policies. A true patriot is proud of his country, not his govt.
Speaking of character assasination, the pages and archives of cocorioko are rife with the practice. The bottom line is you cannot claim to be non-partisan and then do everything that points out that you a die hard APC supporter....Cocorioko has essentially morphed into an APC newsletter. It has the readership because people want to know what the APC and its minions are saying, but that doesn't mean they take what is posted as gospel.
Subject: Re: Plans to Balckmail Cocorioko
From: poorman
To: All
Date Posted: 20:49:07 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: unis@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-72-66-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.26.251
Message:
cocorioko nar we yone. you mit yar don mek nor cam . you know the rest; you go kab kanu. a lek way you bit me nar fbc, are still dae colay pa you.
Subject: Re: The Cocorioko forum is the best to me
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 11:55:38 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
True that..
The "Forum"..
Earlier opinion i expressed was about the Newspaper..
We all agree.. the forum is the best out there..
No doubt..
Subject: Re: The Cocorioko forum is the best to me
From: Online Veteran
To: All
Date Posted: 13:05:52 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-70-244-79-31.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 70.244.79.31
Message:
THe only with Archives. Shows continuity.
Subject: Can the real John Mannah please stand up!
From: Dehunge
To: All
Date Posted: 11:03:32 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-141-156-174-55.esr.east.verizon.net at 141.156.174.55
Message:
John over the last couple of months i have followed your sparing with various people in cyberspace. I know you John as a charming and affable guy devoid of arrongance. Your great smile was always a welcoming and sincere sign of the great human being that i knew you to be. The John Mannah that i see on these forums is not truly the real guy that i know. I believe that you have allowed yourself to be dragged into being someone other than what you are. You spent a considerable part of your life in East end Freetown a bastion of detribalised themne guys. By all indications you got along well with with guys in Hagan street with little education. In Mount Aureol where i was two years your senior you showed yourself to be a great mixer. That was how you were able to display your leadership skills especially with AISEC. Not once did i see an iota of the tribal sentiments that seem to pervade your commentary on issues about Sierra Leone. I know that it is easy to want to stand up for your ideas. But you will agree with me that your style has drowned out what ever good ideas that you seek to propagate. In other words you have become the issue rather than the honest disagreements you share with people on the political and economic issuesof the day
My advice to you John as a good friend is to back off, take some time off and re-emerge as the real guy that you truly are. I remember Kabs writing an open letter to you when you stopped posting on Cocorioko in which he lauded your articles and invited you to continue submiting them to his newspaper. I may not have agreed with everything you wrote but the articles clearly met the intellectual stardards of a Forabite that one can be proud of. I like people with passion for their ideas, however John, Sierra Leone is a small country, you can practice your politics without alienating a lot of people as you certainly seem to be doing.
Therefore my brother take a deep breath and think about whether this John Mannah who is now coming across as elitist, boastful, arrongant and snubbish of people you consider less educated is the real John Mannah. I know that is not the real John Mannah at least not the one i knew.
Subject: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chapoyumu
To: All
Date Posted: 10:56:28 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: chapo@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
• The construction of Chancery buildings and residences in Ghana. The Ghanaian Government has allocated plots of land for this purpose. Project estimated at US$130,000 for 2008.
• The repairs and maintenance of Chancery buildings - the High Commission in Banjul, The Gambia. Project cost estimated at US$983,218.00 for 2008.
• The repairs of the Chancery building and Ambassador’s residence in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Cost estimated at US$773,339.00 for 2008.
• Development estimate for rehabilitation of buildings including the Chancery’s, Ambassador’s and Deputy Ambassador’s residences and Deputy Ambassador’s residences and other logistical needs for the Sierra Leone Embassy in Washington is estimated at US$497,930 for 2008
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 12:26:42 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-138-89-217.range86-138.btcentralplus.com at 86.138.89.217
Message:
I am in support of a modern mission house. Such residences projects who we are. My problem though is where is the mioney coming from? What are in place to attract meaningful and financially beneficial bilateral trade. As our current posotion stands, our overseas missions have not brought in trade for the bbenefit of the country. Most of the trade that is happening is personal trade that only employees of these mission houses benefit. An example is palm oil that was been sold at one time at our High Commision in London (Oxford Street premises). It was a shock to see that.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Olu Beckley
To: All
Date Posted: 13:08:29 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: mariamab@aol.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
Why spend $983,000 to repair a chancery in Banjul when you can build a brand new one for less! You've just made the point, if renovated embassies continue to be used as market places for fried fish and "cassada braid" then the return on investment is unjustifiable.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:17:36 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-192-18.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.192.18
Message:
True! True! This is then the time for our Foreign Minister to formualte policies and standards to attract trade for the benefit of the nation. Shakespear once said - costly thy habits upon clothes as thy purse can buy, rich nor gaundy for the apparel proclaims the man. if we are to spend such money on revamping our mission houses we have to do that with the hope in mind that they will surely serve as financially beneficial points.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 13:33:29 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
Costly thy habit as thy purse can buy, but not expressed in fancy, rich, not gaudy, for the apparell oft proclaims the man.
Sorry couldn't resist - this is a line from a speech I gave almost 25 years ago, but I still remember it verbatim.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:46:03 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-192-18.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.192.18
Message:
Thanks for the verbatim! I learnt this at the Albert Academy - will not tell you when - Omorpeh harding my tailoring teacher taught us about appearance and this quote he often used. Do you still remember which book it was taken from?
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 03:46:02 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Oh old time memories at AA.
Pa Harding taught us Permanent Turn-Up(PTU) and gave us the history behind it and upto this day, I still take my ready-made pants and modify them into PTU.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 06:32:46 10/13/07 ()
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Still remember who invented the PTU, the red tie and the man who could nopt seat in public for fear of crssing his trousers? Pa harding - a great teacher of fashion. To this day my tailoring is good - the visual side is impeccable. Thank God and tghe opportunity one got to have sat in a class of Pa Harding.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 15:14:41 10/12/07 ()
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It is from Hamlet.
Subject: Re: WHY SPEND $983,000 TO REPAIR CHANCERY IN BANJUL?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 15:40:12 10/12/07 ()
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Thanks!
Subject: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: THAVARISH
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Date Posted: 10:39:05 10/12/07 ()
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Check his interview and have your say on his perfomance.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: ITK
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Date Posted: 10:20:21 10/13/07 ()
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It was a tough outing for President Koroma. The host of the program is a notorious hard-hitter, and there were some unusual questions from listerens to contend with. Overall grade on performance(to answer your question): 6 out ot ten--
1. On delivery: much room for improvement, although to be fair, Koroma does not have the luxury of highly-paid voice, speech and image coaches (like Geore Bush and Gordon Brown do). At times, he sounded a little sluggish and overall lacked a certain "oomph". This , of course can be improved over time, but sooner than later as this shortcoming will only detract form any sense of gravitas.
2. On content: Koroma did fairly well, but would benefit from better preparation (again, he probably does not have seasoned policy experts and research archives at his disposal to prep him before appearances/press conferences (as do George and Gordon). One clearly deficient area, for example (judging from the interview) is foreign affairs. On most of the other topics, while there were no embarrassing gaffes or missteps, his tentativenes in some of his answers and reticence to take head-on some admittedly tough and leading questioning by the host gave me some concern.
3. On the intangibles: probably the strongest component for the President; Koroma came accross as amiable and was not rattled during a fairly heated interview (he was constantly interrupted mid-sentence by the host, who clearly knows how to go to the crux).
All in all, not bad. With the appropriate assistance that I mentioned, The President should get higher and higher scores in this department. Maybe he should put in a call to Gordon. Some of his folks may not be averse to a pro bono outing to Salone.
Please let us know when the Veep has his first major interview so that we can critique as well.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 15:52:23 10/13/07 ()
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He sounds somewhat Kenyan doesn't he?
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: ITK
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Date Posted: 16:12:16 10/13/07 ()
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Pretty close. He's from Uganda, but does have that Kenyan "sound" to him.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 21:10:23 10/13/07 ()
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The tip is Swahili. They all speak Swahili and as we all know, the mother tongue do influence your phonetics in the English language.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA ON BBC
From: ITK
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Date Posted: 12:53:28 10/14/07 ()
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Yes, good point.
Intersting thing though: Thre few times I visited Nairobi, I can count on my one hand the number of people I heard speaking any indegenous language. Man, they love to speak English (with that Swahili lilt), everywhere from the matatus (poda-podas) to nyama choma shops (cookery). Man, they really amaze me.
Subject: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 10:08:55 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: mohamedbarigue@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
On sale here are cheap electronic tickets to Freetown via Air France, by way of Conakry or SN Brussels by way of antwerp to freetown . from any U.S.city
Now available for only $1,300 one month return.
Please call Barigue travel and tours.
Tel: (240)724-6246 Email: mohamedbarigue@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:27 10/12/07 ()
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Entered From: host86-129-192-18.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.192.18
Message:
Are you a registered and regulated agent for scheduled or chartered flights? Do you have an operators licence to guarantee refunds if something goes wrong? What is the bond in this?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
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Date Posted: 13:17:58 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
Yes we are. yes we do. $50,000.00 same bond amount required for used car dealers, driving school operators, home improvement specialist.
you can always buy your own travel insurance if you want though and even that is optional.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 13:41:45 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
No one is pulling a prank on you. check the washington post travel section each sunday read the travel section especially the coming and going section and you will gain some enlightenment into the travel industry. By the way , the website is a philosophiiical statement and if you can tell me what it means before scrolling down to the index to see the explanation you win a round trip ticket to Freetown.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:24:27 10/12/07 ()
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Entered From: host86-129-192-18.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.192.18
Message:
Thank you sir! Such established information will attract more customers.
I am having trouble entering the website: www.cogo.com
Will continue trying. thanks again.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 13:33:20 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
The website works alright, but the information is not related to travel insurance....
I hope this GUY i not here playing a PRANK on FOLKS.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:19 10/12/07 ()
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Mohamed:
How do you get from Conakry to Freetown? I have traveled on Air France via Dakar. There appear be more options from Dakar to Freetown. What is the comparative cost of flying through Dakar instead of Conakry?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 12:32:20 10/12/07 ()
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FROM THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT GOING TO FREETOWN BUT TO SOMEWHEE IN THE NORTH SAY KAMBIA OR PORT LOKO, CONAKRY IS BETTER AND CHEAPER, YOU CAN ALWAYS GO BY ROAD TO FREETOWN OR TAKE A PLANE FOR ONLY $100.00 MORE
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 12:36:00 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
So it is $1300 to Guinea and Not Sierra Leone- Freetown?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 12:46:51 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
IT is $1300 to freetown we pay the $100 ticket for you on paramount airlines or charter you a jeep for same amount to freetown if you want to go by road to Freetown, kambia , port loko, masiaka, moyamba, bo and Kenema
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:20:28 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Mr. Barigue:
Paramount Airlines was once listed by the main international aviation safety association as a dangerously unsafe airline, one of Africa's worst. It was also grounded by the Sierra Leone authorities as unsafe.
Is this airline now pronounced as certfiably safe?
For your information, I was attracted to yoyr posting because I am a frequent flyer to Freetown and I am always looking for inexpensive plane tickets. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:33:11 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
That's JL the refined diplomat!! How are you my boss? We do not seem to cross each others' paths these days? What is happening these days?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Waraba
To: All
Date Posted: 22:00:28 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: saigobe@lanset.com
Entered From: pool-71-179-99-138.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net at 71.179.99.138
Message:
Ohpoto Chez,
Mr. Leigh is not idle lekkeh you. Mr. Leigh is very busy making material contribution to the improvement of the living conditions of the peipul dem. Therefore there is no way your paths will meet/intersect.
Waraba
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 23:45:23 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-207-163.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.207.163
Message:
Misplacing my intentions again. He is on the forum and I was in the same footing on the 'CHEAP FLIGHT' issue. So I am idle just because? Waraba, I threw my corn and I did not call your foul type (oops fowl. I had a reason for extending such diplomatic discourse to JL. You will not understand what is in a man's mind. Profound wisdom is the only skilled helper. JL knows why we cannot "meet/intersect". Let peace reign!!
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: krio
To: All
Date Posted: 12:56:41 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Is this a STAND-BY ticket from US to Freetown on AIR FRANCE?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 12:46:35 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
IT is $1300 to freetown we pay the $100 ticket for you on paramount airlines or charter you a jeep for same amount to freetown if you want to go by road to Freetown, ambia , port loko, masiaka, moyamba, bo and Kenema
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:49:16 10/12/07 ()
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Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Post your fine prints..
Disclosures..
I want to know what the catch is..
I believe in not getting anything for free.. and i am not interested in things that are too good to be true..
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 12:56:25 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
There is no catch my friend , it is up front price less the trimmings others charge. For example some will say they only sell you British airways for $2,300, plus you have to apply for a visa electronically. Even if you want to go with air morroco which is an air france partner it is the same price $1300. Air morroco now flies to freetown. Make life easy on you and your wallet. Even some may want to sell you aestreus airline from london for so much it is up to you,plus so much more on a US carrier to london for at leats we have done our research and so should you.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 13:50:38 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Are these prices for December? Because I just purchase ticket with another Sierra Leonean for $1800 traveling with air Moroco. But this is for December though? Can you please be more specific on the months and dates.
Thanks
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN THIS IS FOR REAL
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 14:33:03 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
I was encouraged by a friend to send a posting to Cocorioko telling the most enlightened Sierra Leonean forum about our unique travel program. Yes Air Morrocco to Freetown is selling for $1,800-$2,000 but it sells for $1,000-$1,300 to Conakry even in December because of the high taxes imposed by our development retarded NRA, that sees any investor as a target for rip off.
The same with SN Brussells charging thousands of dollars for their ticket to Freetown and maybe a thousand less to Conakry same thing because of high government taxes. So we have devised a system that guarantees that you get to freetown without breaking the bank or overcharging your credit card and that is 100% legal and very affordable.
You will like our way of doing this. It is so easy, take the plane to the next city , conakry, then take another plane to freetown or enjoy the country-side by going by road . You avoid high governmenet taxes and high airport taxes as well as a drifting ferry across the Atlantic or an old russian helicopter that may rotate endlessly before crashing. And by the way, Your Honorable Mr. Ambassador Leigh, Paramount is safe to fly, even there is SLOK air to Freetown, don't mind what People are saying Africans are using these flights everyday with no problems and of course life is not guaranteed and tommorro is not promised.
But one thing we can promise you is this, we can fly you to Conakry, help process you through customs and immigration, then we can drive you off to Freetown in a late model air conditioned jeep (we can't wait for the transafrica highway to be completed.) or you can take paramount airlines to freetown all at our expenses.
To many of you Sierra Leoneans who used our services last year, please come to our rescue. Our drivers were driving white Jeeps that got you to freetown in under 6 hours. Some of you even chartered our vehicles for your wedding programs. I don't want to name names but I guess if someone ask for references, I can use your names as references right?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 13:38:33 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: mfofana2004@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
You said that take off can be from any US city. I live in Los Angeles. If this plane can take me from Los Angeles to Freetown for $1,300, then it is good. Can you confirm for sure that this flight(s) do take off from LAX. If so what is the schedule?
Thanks.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:32 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
So there are no conditions...?
Or you just danced around my question..?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 11:14:20 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
That's about £650 which is not cheap. There are flight s from London to Freetown for £500.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: AMERICAN
To: All
Date Posted: 12:29:50 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
BUT WHAT I CAN BUY WITH $1000 DOLLARS IN AMERICA ,I CANNOT BUY WITH 1000 POUNDS IN ENGLAND. YOU ALL PAY 1000 POUNDS FOR AN APARTMENT IN LONDON BUT FOR $2000 I WILL BE IN A HOUSE IN WASHINGTON. CURRENCY EXCHANGE AND PURCHASING POWE ARE TWO THINGS. YOU GUYS MAKE LESS MONEY AND SPEND MORE IN ENGLAND. KEEP YOUR HARD EARNED POUNDS TO YOURSELF AND LEAVE ME WITH MY EASILY SPENT DOLLAR
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 13:11:42 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You forgot about quality and safety also in the UK! It is an expensive island to live in but it is all worth it. He who survives in the UK for a year has luxury in the US.
Subject: BUT YOUR HOUSES ARE TOO SMALL TO LIVE IN CHEZ
From: okdok
To: All
Date Posted: 20:10:44 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
Entered From: wnpgmb11dc1-161-174-190.dynamic.mts.net at 142.161.174.190
Message:
Do you take this buddy?
Subject: Re: BUT YOUR HOUSES ARE TOO SMALL TO LIVE IN CHEZ
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 23:48:54 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Yes very small if you live in urban areas. Those in the rural have large Victorian types. The Island is not as big as the US and therfore has to meet the demand for space. They are well protected and safety is a paramount issue for the local authorities.
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Nar Sabi Talk
To: All
Date Posted: 10:47:59 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: static-76-160-64-185.dsl.cavtel.net at 76.160.64.185
Message:
Thanks for the info... Cuz people are always looking for better deals to Freetown...
Is this just a one time deal or an ongoing one?
Subject: Re: CHEAP FLIGHTS TO FREETOWN
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:33 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: Cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-202-227.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.202.227
Message:
Thanks for the information my freind, but this forum is not for
advertisement.
Peace and Love
Subject: CHANGE OF NAME
From: SUBWANALAI
To: All
Date Posted: 09:54:45 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
BECAUSE I HAVE GOT A DISTORTED SIAMESE TWIN, I SUBWANALAI HEREBY TAKE THIS OATH INFRONT OF AN ACCREDITED JP THAT FROM THIS DAY HENCEFORTH, I WISH TO BE KNOWN AND CALLED BY THE NAME: NAYABINGHI(JAH'S CHILD). ALL "CERTIFIED" DOCUMENTS BEARING MY FORMER NAME REMAIN VALID.
Subject: Re: CHANGE OF NAME
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 12:32:01 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.143
Message:
Nayabinghi- what language is that?
Subject: Re: CHANGE OF NAME
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 13:01:07 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Mammy Blessings it is the Jamba Language( JOE HILL/RASTA).... This person sounds more like the Lawyer...
Subject: QUOTE OF THE YEAR
From: CraseMan-nah
To: All
Date Posted: 09:04:44 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
Welcome to the S.L.P.P. Forum
QUOTE OF THE YEAR
[ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ SLPP Website Forum ] [ FAQ ]
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Posted by DC Cab Driver on October 12, 2007 at 08:51:56:
"The answer, of course, is that you [John Mannah] are mentally disturbed. Not willing to face the reality of your unsatisfactory life, and running out of time to change your pauperous circumstances, at age 50, when most serious people have already reached the zenith of their professions, you started out to study economics through a correspondence course at a third rate college, while continuing to drive a taxi-cab on the streets of Washington D.C. It is your misfortune that, instead of recognizing that you had spent too long driving a taxi-cab to have any chance of reversing your failed life, you saw your correspondence course as an immoral ticket to joining your fellow SLPP looters of the Sierra Leone treasury in a Berewa-led SLPP government. But, as with most things in your life, John Mannah, you failed again.
A sober person would have taken his failure as a signal to avoid immoral quests. But not you, John Mannah. Instead, you regard your latest failure in life as an affront from God, especially when you look, with unnecessary bitterness at the success of other Sierra Leoneans like President Ernest Koroma, Vice President Sam Sumana, and now, Mohamed Jalloh."
Follow Ups:
Subject: Re: QUOTE OF THE YEAR
From: Batman
To: All
Date Posted: 09:34:46 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
vERY tRUE.
I remember Krase John Mannah abusing VP Sumana in the very first week after the victorious APC election. Nar man wae nor know say nar him bad hart make ee go alaki tae lakira.
Subject: Did SLPP use Bank Of Sa. Leone funds to finance campaign?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 09:00:42 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac0ea75.bb.sky.com at 90.192.234.117
Message:
Is it true that the outgoing SLPP government used Central bank money to the tune of 9 Billion Leones to fund their campaign?? If so just when are they going to repay the money (with interest)??
Can someone please shed some light on this if it is indeed true??
Subject: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: Patriot
To: All
Date Posted: 08:55:01 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
I have been a regular reader of the Cocorioko Newspaper online and I agree with those who say that it is the best newspaper we have.I say this with no prejudice to the other newspapers.Kabs just has that uniques style of newswriting that others cannot match. What is a dull and boring item on other papers becomes very interesting on Cocorioko.
However, the paper has fallen in standards lately because of its allignment with the APC. It was not a bad idea to help the APC win the elections. I also dislike SLPP and I have respect for Cocorioko for helping to defeat them at the elections.
However, I think it is high time for Cocorioko to retrn back to the centre. They did a good job to defeat SLPP but now they have to return to the center and to the reporting of other stories and providing strong analyses of the country's problems.
We also wish to warn Cocorioko to beware of these politicians .They are not worth losing your credibility over.
I hope Kabs and Foday Mansaray will not ban me for expressing my opinion on this issue . I am saying this not to be a 'beller' to the paper like its detractors but because I am one of those who have been enjoying the paper for its interesting style of news coverage and writing which other papers cannot match. It is not worth losing credibility over our politicians.
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 10:43:12 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
Message:
Rev Kanu and I have always been very realistic. The unfortunate truth was SLPP did a terrible Public Relations Job. Clues……SLPP were always coming from a defensive position.
Elections are over and we are concentrating on nation building efforts. The Views of our forum participants are not the opinion of COCORIOKO or any of its board members.
As Sierra Leone's number one news outlet on the web, we take such constructive criticism very seriously. We will ask our moderator to post another poll which you the reader will be the independent judge as to our performance within the next ninety days. All political parties and stakeholders are welcome to submit articles and suggestions.
Thank You.
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:07:25 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Foday:
I agree with Patriot. As I understand his/her posting, he/she is not concerned with the views expressed by participants in the forum. Those views (provided they are not offensive or violate the rules of the forum) cannot and should not be sanitized, censored or otherwise curtailed. This is why I was troubled by your earlier suggestion that "false" postings would subject participants to punitive measures including banning from the forum.
What I believe Patriot is referring to (and I agree with him/her) is the editorial content of Cocorioko. No-one is saying that the paper cannot have a slant or bias-- most papers do. However, what has been lacking and blatantly so at Cocorioko since the end of the elections in Sierra Leone is even an iota of objectivity in both the reporting of news and the editorials.
I don't believe you need a poll to become objective. That is something you either decide to do or not to do. The ball is already in your court.
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:29:32 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
"However, what has been lacking and blatantly so at Cocorioko since the end of the elections in Sierra Leone is even an iota of objectivity in both the reporting of news and the editorials." -----ITK
Not only that... even the content..
Natin pass HE, MR Preso, Uncle Sam..
Preso.. Uncle sam.. APC..
Cabinet..
Ok..
But what abotu this..?
http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_20056722.shtml
http://news.sl/drwebsite/publish/article_20056732.shtml
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1206&cntnt01returnid=15
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1201&cntnt01returnid=15
There is more to salone than our new Messiah..
Get that lazy reporter out of statehouse and have him mingle a bit with the people..
Opinions, market women expectations, interview with the mayor.. hard questions.. about our city..
Army chief.. police chief..
Paddys.. kolonko price.. (man get for budget).
etc.....etc..
And once in a while.. Hit Pap Sam something something behend the bahckor...so he realises.. he is an employee.. VP glamour went out with SI koroma.. E geh luck e get siren sef for 250K..price used to be 700K
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 11:20:23 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Just bypass the newspaper and come to the forum..
Better yet.. bookmark the forum directly..
No one should force us to read soviet style news.. all things mr president.. lek we nar termite.. (its not all about the queen).
And no.. cocorioko is not the best news outlet online..
Awoko is..
awarenesstimes.
Vanguard
etc.. before cocorioko..
I am even leaning more towards newpeople these days..
Only if they update 3-5 times a week..
Better format.. eye candy..
anyways.. as we all have and are allowed to express opinions..
Thats mine..
Shape up Cabs.. (noto gym ah de talk bot)
Move away from this hwforums and who ever your host is..
Buy HTML for dummies and get a grasp on the basics..
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: Citizen
To: All
Date Posted: 11:35:39 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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I don't agree with you, Patriot, that Cocorioko should abandon its projection of President Koroma's government and move to the centre.The paper, in my opinion, has always been centrist. Why not be honest and say that you want Cocorioko to appease the SLPP by stopping to promote the APC ? That is what this whole thing is about . It's not about journalism.It's about SLPP.If Cocorioko had been promoting SLPP, what would you have said ? PRAISE TO COCORIOKO . And candid opinion was so disingenious .His preference for the New People shows my point. He believes New People is the best for the reason that it is promoting SLPP.So it is clear that this is about APC and SLPP.Cocorioko is being villified by SLPPers.Plain and simple. The paper is great to me.I see nothing wrong with it. I agree with Patriot that it is the best and Kabs should stop being confused by the noise of the SLPP market.
Subject: Re: APPEAL TO COCORIOKO TO RETURN TO THE CENTER
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:45:58 10/12/07 ()
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Citizen,
We differ, i respect that..
And no.. i dont want him to be PRO anyone..
That was my point..
Newpeople is better formated and a better read..
We can solicit secondary opinion on that (No need to argue).
I read, cocorioko.. Newpeople.. awareness times, awoko, vanguard et all.. and apply my own filter and comeup with my own virtual news of the day.. thats how i keep myself informed abotu back home...
"He believes New People is the best for the reason that it is promoting SLPP" ----citizen
And you called me disingenious?
While virtually shoving words down my throat..?
Subject: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: Hon.Philip Tondoneh-SLPP.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:27:07 10/12/07 ()
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A Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP) parliamentarian Mr Philip Tondoneh has expressed concern over the linking of the Ministry of Finance with that of Development under the recently announced appointment of cabinet ministers by President Ernest Koroma.
Mr Tondoneh said that though it is a little bit premature to make an assertive statement, because there is a parliamentary appointments Committee, the combination of the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Development is a serious concern because these are two major Ministries and need a line of difference between the professionals.
“I would have loved those two Ministries to be separated so that there will be transparency and performance assessment as well as efficiency” he said.
Tondoneh took a jab also on the appointment of the Foreign Minister, saying “personally I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent to handle that post, somebody who is a Foreign Affairs person must know the issues, but let’s see what the Appointments Committee will come out with.”
The SLPP Member of Parliament also said that they will have to thoroughly scrutinize the appointees as to whether they have dual citizenship “we have to check also whether they are registered voters, these are our concerns we want to know their status.” he maintained
He however said that “I like and want the cabinet to be purely partisan, as of now, I do not see anything wrong with it”
The MP said that the idea of national inclusion is a donor driven ideology, “pointing out that that ideology affected his party (SLPP) as a lot of people who have joined the party were not loyal to the government and ended up sabotaging it.”
Subject: Re: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 10:33:31 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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This is why we have a parliament. Every appointment should be scrutinized and the nominee grilled on how they intend to carry-out their functions. If they are the right person for the job, they should be able to neutralize any doubts coming from parliamentarians. What I like about confirmation hearings is that it allows the people (through elected representatives) to pose questions to the president's appointees. It also creates a record for us to compare what they say they will do with what they actually do in the next four years. Great process.
Subject: Re: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 10:13:16 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: cottontree1800@gmail.com
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Message:
I totally agree with you and the honorable that all appointees should be
scrutinized to see whether they have the qualifications/know-how and
competent to perform their job functions. However, I don’t think not
having a dual citizenship or not being a registered voter should be a
roadblock for an appointment.
There are many Sierra Leoneans abroad that are highly qualified with
vast experiences that are willing/ready to relinquish their jobs to back
and help with the rebuilding process. We need to come together as a
nation to rebuild Sierra Leone. As longer as you’re Sierra Leonean by
birth you should be given the opportunity.
Many bloggers have indicated that the constitution state, “if you’re not
a registered voter you should not be appointed or not hold a
ministerial post.” I am not a lawyer neither a constitution expert.
HOW IS THIS LAW/PROVISION BENEFICAIL? WHEN LAST WAS THE
CONSTITUTION REVISED?
Please excuse my ignorance and enlight me.
Peace and Love
Subject: Re: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: Nar Sabi Talk
To: All
Date Posted: 09:35:06 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
Bra! Nar U sabi...
We don put de wan deh way unar feel say sabi, nahtin nor happen...
We wan see A woman, en nor to any kind woman oh!
Nar Madam Zainab Bangura...
U en you Parliamentarian jus get for go lick each other's wound...
Lef Salone gee we ya!
Hush oh,ya!
Subject: Re: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: SUBWANALAI
To: All
Date Posted: 09:47:01 10/12/07 ()
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Philip Tondoneh is a first timer in parliament. And so what? This is what the change is all about, giving first timers a chance. So, in the same vain, he is the wrong person to cry Zainab Bangura for being a first timer. Could Tondoneh please step back and give the patriotic lady a chance. Or maybe his most recent job (world bank attachment to the former Veep's office)is still doing his brain in. So far so good, of all the appointees, Zainab is the nominee I would rubber stamp any time of the day
Subject: Re: I don’t believe that Lady (Zainab Bangura) is competent
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 11:15:19 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
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I do not see any difficulties for Zainab to excel as foreign minister. I do not know her but I have some knowledge of some of her accomplishment. I attended a conference in London in 1998 as then secretary general of SLPP where Zainab gave a moving speech on the war and the attrocities committed by the AFRC/RUF junta regime. She was part of former president Kabba's entourage to solicit international support for the restoration of democracy in Sierra Leone. Zainab has also established herself in the civil society movement during which she gained requisite international experience and was employed as a UN administrator in Liberia. In contrast, what did momodu koroma did or achieved prior to his appointment as F M by Kabba. Nothing, apart from being Kabba's bag carrier and errand boy. Do not tell me he has a degree because Zainab has that as well. Zainab is more equiped and with the potential to perform well. Live her alone, she is my sweety. Lotta
Subject: WHAT? THIS FORUM IS CHANGING COURSE? OH KNOW! WHY?
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 07:59:13 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-202-227.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.202.227
Message:
We need to redirect this forum to focus on suggestions that will gear
toward to the development/betterment of Sierra Leone. The fact is APC
is in power and the president has elected/appointed his cabinets. We
may disagree or dislike some of his appointees for some reason; some
may even have dirt in their closets, but we need to support them until
they proof otherwise. We need to use our energy, ideologies, and
experiences in a positive way to support Ernest Koroma government in
the rebuilding process. However, if they falter or engaged in any
corrupt behavior or injustice, they should be exposed and be held
accountable.
This forum comprises of many intellects from various disciplines with
vast experiences. I suggest we start tackling the problems of Sierra
Leone by giving suggestions to the president/officials on how to fix/
resolve the many issues the country is facing. The biggest problem that
everyone is talking about is corruption? I would start by asking a
question…
HOW CAN CORRUPTION BE COMBATED WHEN THE AVERAGE MONTHLY
SALARY OF A SIERRA LEONEAN IS APPROXIAMTELY SIXTY US DOLLARS
WITH EMPLOYMENT AT APPROXIMATELY SIXTY FIVE PERCENT?
Your honest views and opinions are welcome – I will assure you that
they will be channeled to the appropriate individual/ministry.
My fellow patriotic Sierra Leoneans lets help rebuild our beloved
country, work together in the name of unity peace and justice for all.
The people of Sierra Leone are suffering, lacking the basis necessities
to sustain life – it is heart rendering.
I have no political affiliations with any party. I am a proponent of
justice and better living conditions for all Sierra Leoneans regardless of
their tribe or economic status.
Subject: Re: WHAT? THIS FORUM IS CHANGING COURSE? OH KNOW! WHY?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 12:50:36 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.22
Message:
Very impressive brother. I wish the momentum and good faith be transmitted to those in power. The momentum might be the key, but we are also watching critically. I tend to like the shrewdness of President Koroma. He's creating the image of someone with the curiosity to fix, visiting places of hopeful attraction, and yet talk very little. We are watching and waiting, just to be sure! Saloneman's love for his country can't be underestimated. When the time is ripe, there will be a pool of fruitful ideas to pick from.
Subject: Re: WHAT? THIS FORUM IS CHANGING COURSE? OH KNOW! WHY?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 10:12:01 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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I don't beleive that there is any shortage of ideas that can create a meaningful turnaround in Sierra Leone. The priorities set out by the president on his campaign website and in his address to parliament are clear and can be used to construct action plans for each ministry. The issue with Sierra Leone has always been whether the leadership has the political will to follow through on the chnages that are necessary to spur development and discourage corruption. One thing I do know is that Sierra Leoneans will follow an inspiring leader. This was demonstrated in 1985 when Joseph Momoh initially set a tone by arriving at work at 8.00 am. Virtually the whole civil service followed suit. Of course that lasted for less than a month, but it demonstrates the power of leadership by example. We don't need grand masterplans, we just need great leadership and committment to positive change. Oh and we also need time and patience to get things working again.
Subject: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 05:19:34 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
So far so good save for a few typo errors. It enlightened me so much that I will recommend others to read the draft now and prepare for possible debates.
Another thing i noted in the 'Current Status' of the departments touched is the vacant posts that others - so qualified on the forum - may want to look into. There are job and there will be more jobs for qualified people. No stealing my dear - be prepared to serve your nation and not to go and rob them - GROUP FOR JUSTICE WILL BE WAITING and nother group will soon spring - OPERATION CLEAN HANDS. Such a body will help civil servant and other government officials, by way of education through seminars, workshops, training, policies and campaigns. They will be listened to and helped with their problems of not controlling their hands - OPERATION CLEAN HANDS - will cure any illness of kleptomania; it will recomment to the state and its agencies: i) better condirtions for workers ii) better standard of living iii) health and safety at work iv)Welfare security issues, etc etc.
Guys my OPERATION CLEAN HANDS is imaginary. I prray such a body is there to help our myopic kleptomanaics. A thing you do today will be known tomorrow therefore our actions and decisions of today are very important for our future comings and goings.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 18:00:11 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
There were a couple items of concern.
The first was regarding the Ministry of Education around page 110. The report states there are 1.3 Million primary schools. That seems like a high number; especially since there are a reportedly low number of children enrolled in school. What percentage of these schools are actually functioning (properly staffed and equipped)? How many primary age students are in Sierra Leone?
Dept. of Agriculture-Tractors were just given away?
Forrest expenditures were attached to this department even though Forestry is no longer attached to this department.
Ministry of Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation-I disagree with opening new missions in other countries when the department and missions already open need major overhauls. The ministry needs to be in good working order before any other undertakings. The modernization is key. The department needs modern office equipment, modern modes of communications, and modern transportation for visiting dignitaries.
I had a chance to travel to Pakistan late last year. When you arrive in Islamabad, you don't even know you're in a third world country. The capital of Pakistan is modern and well kept. If you can't make a good presentation of your country in your capital city, you are doomed. If the center of government doesn't have what it needs to function properly, you've got major problems.
Last observation. I have read repeatedly on this forum about the number of trained professions in the country, but I remember reading time and again that there is a need to staff different departments within the government with competent staff. Is this report saying that competent staff was overlooked in favor of placing incompetent people into positions as paybacks or for other reasons not mentioned?
Overall this was a good report. It was disappointing to see that not all that was requested was delivered or it was not delivered in a timely manner.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 09:58:58 10/12/07 ()
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I read through the whole document. I am certainly more enlightened about how the public sector works! A lot of work has gone into it, but it is a massive document for one person to absorb. I assume that it will be broken down by Ministry and handed to each incoming minister to draw up a plan of action. My observation (which is sure to draw a lot of fire) is that I find it hard to see where the alleged "millions" could have been looted from such relatively modest ministerial budgets!
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: So the evidence is not forthcoming?
To: All
Date Posted: 11:02:18 10/12/07 ()
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"...My observation (which is sure to draw a lot of fire) is that I find it hard to see where the alleged "millions" could have been looted from such relatively modest ministerial budgets! ..."
Please tell that to the LIARS in your party (apc) who defamed the GOP (SLPP) in their propaganda to usurp power through lies to the voters, intimidation, thuggery and violence.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 11:08:21 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I have wondered the same..
IT may seem SLPP got upstaged..3 footed by petty gossip..
And the number one gossiper and disseminator of cheap talk just happended to be ..?
Who else..
But enti you all know.. call name..nar im get palava..
Who the red cowboy hat fit.. ?
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:13 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Hay thanks. The report is hugh but some of the pages are actually blank. I printed 208 Pages. With a good format can be reduce to may be 180 at best.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Emmanuel Jarrett
To: All
Date Posted: 09:08:48 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
To add to the format issue, I hope the final copy is formatted well. It will be a shame for such report to go out ....it is even a shame on who prepared this document....It should be done professionally...
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 09:12:44 10/12/07 ()
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Do we know what a draft is? It was not meant for our consumption until the finished product but some sensible guy was able to make us know about it before completion. We should be grateful and construcftively make recommendations - not calling a draft 'shame'.
In constructive criticisms we can progresws. I understood every bit of then document, even with the typo errors. They have started a very good job. I put my country above partisan politics.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Emmanuel Jarrett
To: All
Date Posted: 09:44:28 10/12/07 ()
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"Do we know what a draft is?" I do know what a draft is...if it is out in the public away from who should be reviewing and making recommendation, it is almost the final copy...
"They have started a very good job. I put my country above partisan politics." You are always coming with this partisan politics crap, I do not belong to any political party and therefore when i do a constructive criticism...
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: law
To: All
Date Posted: 19:16:41 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
Thanks to whoever made this draft a public document that we all have seen a glimpse of. I stand to share the view of few people for a clear explanation of the ZILLIONS of $$$$$$'s that were alledged stolen from government ministries to fund SLPP's campaign. Please APC substantiate your evidence for corruption and we will join in to press charges otherwise get up from your slumber and put your brain to work because the clock is ticking. Thank you.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 10:42:00 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Mr. Jarret, I make it my duty not to labour on issues that we all argue for arguments sake - the leaked draft is not a final work but a draft copy. Thanks and I hope we are all in the understanding that it was aleaked draft that we are opportuned to see.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION DRAFT REPORT - NOT BAD AS OTHERS THINK
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:24:56 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Chez! I went through the Draft and there are a lot of recommendations. The one that caught my eye is the division of the Ministry of Agriculture...
If we are trying to save valuable resources/capital, why is the transition team requesting a new department/probably a ministry?
Subject: COCORIOKO, HERE I COME
From: SUBWANALAI
To: All
Date Posted: 04:56:32 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
My appologies to all the decent guys of this forum. I have been away for too long. Guess what, during my trek, I could not but clutch to any thing COCORIOKO. Meanwhile, I was made to understand that some well know nuisance that fits the female gender has been riding on my wings(moniker). But I trust the resoluteness of the ever vigilantes of this forum. Let us all unite to wipe out crudity and disrespect for our values. Wa Salaam!
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO, HERE I COME
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 08:13:13 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.149
Message:
Mensa Messiah would like to take this wonderful opportunity to welcome a dear sister back to the forum after a notable absence. One thing I've always enjoyed about her is her advocacy for Sierra Leone to remain as One Nation. Hate her or love her, the power she exhudes sort of intimadates, quite subconsiously, the surrounding. People that happen to be in the vicinity scream blue murder and she finds herself repelling a barrage of attacks from all angles! Yet, she has proven to be a lone striker and a surviver. She's an enigma so to speak! But when you come to know her well as a person, she's downright mindful of the existence of a living God. She has faith. Perhaps SUBWANALAI might not be the right log-in name to use in a cyber screen that nakedly displays religious violations. She might not be aware, but changing the 'W' to an 'H' in the name could give you one of the Greatest praises for the Almighty in Islam. The good angel in her will definitely help her realize this fact.
Hey, no doubt we stand to enjoy just a bit of temporary fun by engaging in these endless cyber debates. Literally speaking, outlets of idleness they are, these cyber debates! No hard feelings! But whatever we do in sincerity for the sake of God, we definitely reap that reward regardless of our way of life. We should always be hopeful that someday, we shall end up in the path of righteousness.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO, HERE I COME
From: Patriot
To: All
Date Posted: 09:11:10 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
If Subwanalah is who you think he/she is, I have no respect for the character because she is a wicked woman who has no love for our country but what she can reap illegally . You do not know her, my dear.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO, HERE I COME
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 05:24:23 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: Cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-202-227.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.202.227
Message:
Welcome my freind, you were truely missed...
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO, HERE I COME
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 05:23:48 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: Cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-202-227.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.202.227
Message:
Welcome my freind, you're truely missed...
Subject: TOEGONDON SAGBAH'S ARTICLE
From: X
To: All
Date Posted: 04:32:03 10/12/07 ()
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INVESTIGATING CORRUPTION IS NOT A WITCH HUNT
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Posted by Toegondoe Sagbah on October 09, 2007 at 20:27:45:
I am not one of those to start making judgements about the new government, its too early. There is still almost 5 years to go. But I will say one thing to this government. The pervasiveness of corruption in the past government was not just endemic, it was epidemic and the whole country knows about it.
If for whatever reason, this government fails to prosecute the corruption for which the SLPP government was notoriously rooted out of power, it will definitely be one of the reasons, they too may have a problem winning in 2012 because the people will NOT FORGET.
We already know that many of the prominently corrupt SLPP are making daily visits to the State House facilitated by the State House scheduler, a core SLPP. And some of their mouthpieces are already trying to dampen the effects of their corruption on the nation by referring to any investigations as a "WITCH HUNT". That's a fanciful word for "DON"T PROSECUTE". Any semblance of not prosecuting will be considered a recipe for continued corruption.
Forget about those calling any corruption investigation as a WITCH HUNT. IT IS NOT...PERIOD!!! Investigating corruption is a dignified way of upholding our laws and holding those who violated it to be accountable for their deeds.
The millions of dolars, Pounds and Euros that have been pocketed and aggrandizd one way or another must be salvaged for the sake of the country. We are not going to be lucky again to have those monies replaced by the donor countries, that's why we must recoup these ones. Crooked and corrupt politicians must not be allowed to make corruption an acceptable behavior, agenda or tolerable public policy in that country. All it does is prevent the country from progress because the money lost, is simply progress and development lost
If the corrupt embezzlers of the past government were allowed to go free, on what gorunds will you prosecute the next corrupt officials, and the next, and the next and the next, and so on...FOREVER!
Subject: Re: TOEGONDON SAGBAH'S ARTICLE
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 12:05:01 10/12/07 ()
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Message:
Yes, thank you. I do believe in what I wrote. I hope many other do. Corruption must be tackled, dealt with and defeated. Otherwise it will forever remain our own physical cancer.
Subject: SORIE FOFANA HAS SPOKEN
From: Jan
To: All
Date Posted: 04:22:11 10/12/07 ()
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Sierra Leone: Sorie Fofana Writes to Sheka Tarawallie
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OPEN LETTER TO MR. SHEKA TARAWALLIE
Dear Mr. Tarawallie,
When I arrived here in London, to take up appointment as Information Attaché on 22nd September 2002, I made it a policy not to engage in any slanging match with some media colleagues I consider to be mere detractors.
On this premise, I have deliberately ignored the temptation of having to respond to some of your bile-filled and scurrilous attacks against me published in some newspapers and/or Online publications.
I have decided to respond to your latest article published on the Cocorioko Website on 9th September, 2007 because you deliberately mentioned the name of the Sierra Leone High Commission in London.
It is my duty to respond, in order to inform the public, and, to address the issues you raised against the Sierra Leone High Commission. I know where you are coming from.
You said the High Commission does not even know the number of Sierra Leoneans living in Great Britain. I tell you why? It is because of people like you who come to the UK and refuse to register with the Sierra Leone High Commission inspite of a public notice on our website to that effect.
I hope you are not trying to suggest that we embark on a head count of every Sierra Leonean resident in the UK. Do you expect us to be moving from door to door looking out for Sierra Leoneans to come to the High Commission and register with us? That is just not possible, my dear brother.
On the issue of the slained Zainab Kaloko (May her soul rest in peace), you said we made no attempt to contact the British Police after she was gunned down at a birthday party in London. I don’t wish to blame you because you are completely ignorant about the procedures involved in complaints made by foreign missions.
For the benefit of your readers, let me say that the Deputy High Commissioner, Mr. James Allie and myself visited the bereaved family of the late Zainab Kaloko around Denmark Hill in South-East London, a day after her death, and sympathised with them in the Sierra Leonean way (I hope you understand what I mean by the “Sierra Leonean way”). We assured them of our support and asked them to contact the High Commission whenever the need arose.
On the issue of not making contact with the British Police on the death of the late woman (Zainab Kaloko), you better contact the Desk Officer in charge of Sierra Leone at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office here in London. I need not elaborate.
On the question of the Sierra Leone High Commission Website, we are still in the process of re-designing it to meet new challenges. I wish to encourage our many readers and viewers to continue to be patient with us as we continue to vigorously pursue the process of modernising the entire Chancery, again, to meet new challenges.
Let me advise you, once again, that in your undiminished enthusiasm and desperation to grab a political appointment, you should be very careful not to destroy the image of our dear country. Sierra Leone is the only country some of us have.
Yours sincerely
Sorie Fofana (Mr.)
Information Attaché,
Sierra Leone High Commission (UK)
Subject: Re: SORIE FOFANA HAS SPOKEN
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 05:01:23 10/12/07 ()
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WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Pa Sorie, you are still off your trolly. I remember in 2004 when we suggested to you guys that we register all sierra leoneans as it is important for the mission house to show that it is a responsible body.
I even went on, at a gathering a Blackfriars restaurant, to beg the High Commissioner that such was very important and it show that the state cares for it citizens.
I completed my form twice - a form I downloaded from the London High Commission website - but your office failed to communicate with those who completed their forms.
Your lack of diplomatic r5tact makes one wonder - what are you doing there? Are you there to make war with your people who write things against you or you are there to explain what is happening and would happen as activities grogress.
Suchn is undiplomatic:
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You said the High Commission does not even know the number of Sierra Leoneans living in Great Britain. I tell you why? It is because of people like you who come to the UK and refuse to register with the Sierra Leone High Commission inspite of a public notice on our website to that effect.
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A true diplomat or someone with tact would have written differently so as not to provoke other's involvement. i am now involved because of what you wrote - yactless. The writer, Shekito, is a Sierra leonean and has the right to vent out his concerns - your job was to diffuse his statement without inflaming it.
I completed my forms and you did not acknowledge or send out a report to all as to the number of registrants. Did you do that? How many times did I call to check if your office received my form and no one was able to answer me. They will transfer you from one number to another until the line eventually cuts off.
For simplicity's sake - when was the last time you gave information to the registered citizens their total count? never! When was the last time you even wrote to them with a way of including them in cultural activities that an Embassy should organise? Never! You guys need a lot to do to understand the importance of that mission house. Try and visit the Ghana Consulate at Highgate and you will see what they do for children of Ghanaian parentage. Young boys and girls are encouraged to volunteer to clean the Ghana High Commission, Consulate; participate in cultural Ghanaian activities, bi-monthly meetings - a joint review - the information and trade attaches - brief thier citizens and prospective investors as to how the economy is moving. Pa Sorie there is so much that you guys have neglected that should bring financial benefits and glory to our beloved country but your mission house thinks it is the fault of the citizens. It is your job to convince them that you are there representing them and not yourself.
Please send me my registration number or certificate. Another thing you should do right away, instead of coming to a senseless but vain defence, is to check out your facts - visit your site and check if the registration form links aere working.
L'homme qu'il faut a la place qu'il faut.
Subject: Re: SORIE FOFANA HAS SPOKEN
From: SUBWANALAI
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Date Posted: 04:44:27 10/12/07 ()
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Shekito was warned.
Subject: Urgent information needed
From: The Group for Justice
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Date Posted: 03:57:47 10/12/07 ()
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The 'GROUP FOR JUSTICE' is a new association formed in order to enourage all Sierra Leoneans to come together and bring some people to justice for embezzling funds from our country.
We welcome every useful comments and information you would have that will help us trace these rogues and their wealth. Please forward any evidence to the address below.
groupforjustice@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Re: Urgent information needed
From: Nar Sabi Talk
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Date Posted: 07:02:31 10/12/07 ()
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We need more info about the group, such as members and mission etc, etc...
Subject: Re: Urgent information needed
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 04:16:18 10/12/07 ()
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A very wise move. We will lend iour support toi such a perceived credible outfit. Thanks
Subject: Talking to the President
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 02:29:10 10/12/07 ()
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On the BBC
Subject: Former Attorney General Tells President Ernest Koroma
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Date Posted: 23:37:54 10/11/07 ()
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Former Attorney General Tells President Ernest Koroma “Wanza Will Ridicule Our Ex-Head Of State At The ECOWAS Court”
Posted on Oct 11, 2007, 04:04
When the initial summon landed on the door step of Dr. Alhaji Tejan Kabbah at the presidential lodge, Hill Station through DHL courier service. He sent the writ to the Law Officers Department for legal advice. Rather than advising the former president that there was no legal basis to contest the claims of Mr. Mohammed Wansa, the Plaintiff trading as “D&M IMPEX” AND “VULGA NOVA PHARMACY” the Law Officers Department filed in a defence with the impression that the matter would be an easy ride for the Republic of Sierra Leone as First defendant and His Excellency Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, President of the Republic of Sierra Leone as the Second defendant.
Sadly, recent development in the matter since 5th October, 2007 to date has clearly demonstrated that there is no legal ground to emerge victorious in the matter. In short, both defendants have a bad case that they cannot win and whatever arguments advanced at the ECOWAS Court.
This is evident in a recent letter contained on a government MINUTE PAPER written and signed by Mr. Fred Carew, former Attorney General and Minister of Justice and sent to the current President of the Republic of Sierra Leone, His Excellency Ernest Bai Koroma.
The fourth and fifth paragraphs of Mr. Carew,s letter literally begged the current President to intervene into the matter through what he called “amicable settlement” “My office had already prepared and filed a defence in the said case. Quite frankly H.E I am not sure that our defence can adequately withstand Mr.Wanza, s claim in a court of law and I am afraid that if the trial proceeds the facts contained in the plaint Note of Mr. Wanza, will ridicule our former Head of State and perhaps the state of Sierra Leone itself” Fred Carew wrote, and added “ I will therefore recommend to H.E. that WITHOUT PREJUDICE that attempts be made to invite Mr. Wanza by H.E. with a view to further discuss this matter and maybe reach an amicable settlement.”
Thus, the legal advice of the former Attorney General and Minister of Justice has raised serious concerns among members of the present administration. Some are asking why the former attorney General failed to give his true legal opinion to the 2nd defendant, ex-president Kabbah at the initial stage, but is only doing it now when the SLPP has been kicked out of power “This is intellectual and legal deception at the highest level” A member of the APC government remarked.
It would be recalled that the case of Human Rights Abuse was filed against President Kabbah of the SLPP government as the 2nd defendant and the Republic of Sierra Leone as the 1st defendant.
The 1991 Constitution of Sierra Leone makes provision for the state to be sued and can sue in any court of law, both locally and internationally.
“The action of the Plaintiff should not come as a surprise Sierra Leoneans” A former confidante to the ex-president explained.
Meanwhile, in a related development, the Plaintiff has responded to the defence filed at the ECOWAS Court by the defendants. In addition to the letter of the former Attorney General and Minister of Justice is the Plaintiff’s reaction to the defence published yesterday.
Letter writen by Former Attorney General Fred Carew to Pres Ernest Koroma
Plaintiff’s reply (ECOWAS) 2
IN THE COMMUNITY COURT OF JUSTICE
OF THE ECONOMIC COMMUNITY OF
WEST AFRICAN STATES (ECOWAS)
HOLDEN AT ABUJA, NIGERIA
SUIT No. ECW/CCJ/APP/07/07
BETWEEN:
Mohamed Kamel Wansa
Trading as “D & M Impex”, “Melborne Enterprise” PLAINTIFF / APPLICANT
and “Vulga Nova Pharmacy”
AND
1. The Republic of Sierra Leone
2. Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah, Defendants/RESPONDENTS
Former President of the Republic of
Sierra Leone
PLAINTIFF’S REPLY TO DEFENDANT’S DEFENCE
1. Save and in so far as the same consists of admissions, the Plaintiff joins issue with the first and second Defendants upon their Statement of Defence.
2. The Plaintiff denies that the second Defendant is the current Head of State of the Republic of Sierra Leone, his term as Head of State having expired on 14th August, 2007 in accordance with the provisions of section 46(1) read together with section 49(1) of the Constitution of the Republic of Sierra Leone 1991 (Act No. 6 of 1991).
3. The Plaintiff avers further that following the expiration of the second Defendant’s term as Head of State, there was no law of parliament or any other authority enabling the second Defendant to remain or continue in office beyond 14th August, 2007 as Head of State.
4. The Plaintiff also avers that on 17th September, 2007 Mr. Ernest Bai Koroma was elected as Head of State of the Republic of Sierra Leone in place of the second Defendant who is now a private citizen. The immunity from legal proceedings enjoyed by the second Defendant under section 48(4) of the Sierra Leone Constitution ended on 14th August, 2007 when he ceased to be the President/Head of state of Sierra Leone.
5. In the circumstances the Plaintiff avers and shall contend that the second Defendant does not enjoy diplomatic or/any other immunity from legal proceedings under Sierra Leone Law or under any other Law or convention. The “Geneva Conventions on Diplomatic Immunity” referred to in paragraph 1 of the Defence do not exist. This Honourable Court therefore has the competence to hear and determine this matter against the second Defendant, the subject matter of the suit being simply based on breaches of the Plaintiff’s fundamental rights guaranteed by International Laws, Treaties, customs and conventions with no element of crime whatsoever.
6. Furthermore, the immunity conferred on the second Defendant as President of Sierra Leone under section 48(4) of the constitution is applicable only in the court of Sierra Leone, and whilst he may be entitled as a matter of customary international law to enjoy immunity from suit in any national Court, such immunity is not available to him before international courts of which the ECOWAS Community Court of Justice is one. Reference is made to; inter alia, the decision of the Special Court of Sierra Leone in Prosecutor v. Charles Ghankay Taylor, Case No SCSL-2003-01-1, 31 May 2004 where the principle was enunciated as follows:
“The principle of state immunity derives from the equality of sovereign states and therefore has no relevance to international … tribunals which are not organs of a state but derived their mandate from the international community.”
Reliance is also placed on the judgment of the Supreme Court of Sierra Leone in the case of Issa Hassan Sessay & others V The President of the Special Court & Others, case No. S.C.1/2003, 14 October 2005 which concerned the interpretation of section 48(4) of the Constitution of the Republic of Sierra Leone 1991(Act No.6 of 1991). At page 13 it is stated:
“The next provision of the Constitution to be interpreted is that contained in section 48(4) of the Constitution. It deals with the immunity from civil and criminal process enjoyed by the President for anything done or omitted to be done by him either in his official or private
capacity. Let me hasten to state that a distinction ought to be made between immunity from suit under domestic law on the one hand and under international law on the other hand.
A serving Head of State is entitled to absolute immunity from process brought before national courts as well as before the national courts of third States except it has been waived by the State concerned. The Principle was applied by the House of Lords in the Pinochet proceedings (see R v Bow Street Metropolitan Stipendiary Magistrate and others, ex parte Pinochet Ugarte (2002) 1 AC 61; R v Bow Street Metropolitan Stipendiary Magistrate and others, ex parte Pinochet Ugarte (No.2) at (2002) 1AC 119 and R v Bow Street Metropolitan Stipendiary Magistrate and others, ex parte Pinochet Ugarte (No.3) at (2000) 1AC 147) and the Case concerning the Arrest Warrant of 11 April,2000 (Democratic Republic of Congo v Belgium before the International Court of Justice (2002 ICJ Reports). In contrast, where the immunity is claimed by a Head of State before an international court the position to be inferred from decisions of various national courts and international tribunals, and the writings of international jurists is that there exists no a priori entitlement to claim immunity particularly from criminal process involving international crimes.”
In answer to the first paragraph 9 of the Defence, the Plaintiff avers that he has indeed been prevented from pursuing any of his claims in the Courts of Sierra Leone. Having fled from Sierra Leone on 23 March 1997 as a result of fears for his personal safety caused by the second Defendant he has never been in a position safely to return to the country up until the present moment, more so because he was expelled thereafter with the threat, implicit in the express terms of the order whereunder he was expelled, of arrest and detention should he set foot on Sierra Leonean soil. As is demonstrated in the Plaintiff’s narration of facts and the explanations of his claims therein, in particular claims 1, 2 and 8 at least, those claims are such as will require the Plaintiff to attend personally to give evidence in respect of them. An individual’s right to a fair trial/have his case heard necessarily includes the right of access to a Court, in which connection paragraph 161(m) of the Plaintiff’s claim herein is repeated. The Defendants’ acts of depriving the Plaintiff of his Sierra Leonean citizenship and expelling him from Sierra Leone accordingly amount to a violation of his right to a fair trial of his claims guaranteed by Article 7 of the African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights which states, in material part, as follows:
“Article 7
1. Every individual shall have the right to have his cause heard. This comprises:
a) The right to an appeal to competent national organs against acts of violating his fundamental rights as recognized and guaranteed by conventions, laws, regulations and customs in force…”
Reliance is also placed on the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in the case of Golder v. United Kingdom [1975] 1EAHRR524 which concerned Article 6 of the European Convention of Human Rights which is materially identical to Article 7 of the African Charter. At paragraph 35 it is stated:
“… the principle whereby a civil claim must be capable of being submitted to a Judge ranks as one of the universally recognized fundamental principles of law; the same is true of the principle of international law which forbids the denial of justice. Article 6(1) must be read in the light of these principles.
…
It would be inconceivable, in the opinion of the Court, that Article 6(1) should describe in detail the procedural guarantees afforded to parties in a pending law suit and should not first protect that which alone makes it in fact possible to benefit from such guarantees, that is, access to a Court.”
8. Furthermore, the Plaintiff avers and will contend that his expulsion from Sierra Leone by the Defendants without an opportunity to be heard was also a direct violation of his fundamental right under Article 7 of the Charter. In response to the stated reasons for the expulsion given in paragraphs 3, 6, 7 and 8 of the Defence, reliance is placed on the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights in the case of Lupsa v. Romania [2006] 2FCR685, and in particular the comment (at paragraph 38) that:
“… a person subject to a measure based on national security considerations must not be deprived of all guarantees against arbitrariness. He must, among other things, be able to have the measure in question scrutinized by an independent and impartial body competent to review all the relevant questions of fact and law, in order to determine the lawfulness of the measure and punish a possible abuse by the authorities. Before that supervisory body the person concerned must have the benefit of adversarial proceedings in order to present his point of view and refute the arguments of the authorities …”
9. In addition to the violations averred in paragraphs 7 and 8 above, the Plaintiff further avers that the Defendants’ refusal to reverse the deprivation of the Plaintiff’s citizenship and the Order of his expulsion unless he gave up his claims against the government, was entirely arbitrary and yet another flagrant violation of his right under Article 7 of the Charter.
10. As stated in paragraph 7 above the Plaintiff avers that he left Sierra Leone on 23rd March, 1997 and has never returned to that country. When he was deprived of his citizenship and expelled on 31st March,1998 he was outside the country and was never served with either the Deprivation Order or the Expulsion Order contrary to what the Defendants have attempted to portray by their Exhibits TEC1(1-6).
11. In answer to paragraph 7 of the Defendants’ narration of facts which is hereby denied, the Plaintiff states that between 1991 and 1996 he never supplied any military hardware (meaning arms and ammunition) to any government of Sierra Leone either military or civilian, including the NPRC and AFRC governments. In fact during those years the AFRC was not in existence because it came to power only on 27th May, 1997 as admitted by the Defendants in paragraph 25 of their narration of facts.
12. The Plaintiff avers that he never entered into any contracts with the AFRC government throughout its tenure even though both the AFRC and NPRC were de facto and de jure governments of Sierra Leone at different times.
13. From 1991 to April, 1992 the Plaintiff did business with the civilian government of Late Dr. J. S. Momoh and between May 1992 and March, 1996 with the NPRC government when the second Defendant was the Chairman of the Advisory Council of the NPRC government. The NPRC government was recognized world wide by the International Community including the United Nations Organization (U.N.O), the organization of African Unity (O.A.U) (now African Union (A.U)) and the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS). It was on the basis of this international recognition that Captain Valentine Strasser, Head of the NPRC government signed the Revised Treaty of the Economic Community of West African States at Cotonou on 24th July, 1993 as Sierra Leonean Head of State together with the Heads of State of other ECOWAS countries.
(Copy of the relevant pages of the Revised Treaty of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS) containing the signatories to the Revised Treaty including the signature of Captain Valentine Strasser, Head of the NPRC on behalf of the Republic of Sierra Leone is hereby pleaded and marked MKW 147 and shall be relied upon in the course of this case)
14. The Plaintiff denies that any of the contracts he entered into with the first Defendant was in anyway irregular or fraudulent as alleged in paragraphs 8 and 20 of the Narration of facts in support of the Defence. The Defendants are required to give particulars of the so called irregularities and fraud and to state clearly the contracts to which they relate as the second Defendant’s Press Release of 3rd March, 1997 (see Exhibit MKW 18 in the Plaintiff’s pleading) relates only to the contract for the procurement of the M.V. “Sharon”, which is only one of eleven of such contracts.
15. Fraud of any descr1ption and in any context being a crime, the Defendants are put not only to strict proof of the alleged fraud but to proof beyond reasonable doubt.
16. The Plaintiff avers that the allegations of irregularities and fraud in paragraphs 8 and 20 of the Defendant’s narration of facts are contradicted and therefore belied by the contents of paragraph 12, 13, 18, 24, 25 and 30 of the said narration.
17. The Defendants are put to strict proof of their allegations in paragraphs 25 and 30 of payments of “huge” sums of money to the Plaintiff for his contracts.
18. The Plaintiff contends that the NPRC was de facto and de jure government of Sierra Leone and the contracts it entered into with the Plaintiff are valid and binding on the Defendants as all assets and liabilities acquired or incurred by that government were inherited by, transferred to and taken over by the Defendants in the normal course of business and in accordance with the norms, practices and conventions of government and international law. Consequently, the Defendants have a duty to honour their legitimate contractual obligations and must not be allowed to resile from or arbitrarily repudiate contracts validly entered into by their predecessors in office.
19. Further, since coming into office, the Defendants have officially and unequivocally accepted liability for payment to the Plaintiff of the monies owed to him under the various contracts involved in this case. Two sets of auditors employed by the Defendants verified and recommended for payment all the Plaintiff’s claims amongst others and the reports of both sets of auditors were accepted and approved by the Cabinet of the second Defendant vide its cabinet conclusions endorsing PKF and Estina Kabia’ reports dated 4th September,2002 and 29th October, 2003 respectively. (see Exhibits MKW 113 and MKW 115 attached to the Plaintiff’s pleading) and in several letters to the International Monetary Fund (IMF) pleaded and attached to the Plaintiff’s pleading, the Defendants assured and made a commitment to the IMF that the debts owed to the Plaintiff as verified and approved by Mrs. Estina Kabia would be securitized or amortized.
In fact the claims of each of the other domestic creditors whose claims relate for contracts awarded by the NPRC government were audited under the IMF programme have been paid apart from those of the Plaintiff.
(Copy of the Summary of the Plaintiff’s claims as approved for payment by Mrs. Estina Kabia is hereby pleaded and marked MKW 148 and shall be relied upon in the course of this case)
It is therefore too late in the day for the Defendants to disown the contracts as irregular illegitimate or fraudulent. Their present attempt to do so is nothing but an after-thought contrived for the purpose of avoiding their contractual obligations. They cannot approbate and reprobate. They are estopped.
20. When on 29th April, 2005 the Defendants wrote to the Plaintiff rejecting his claims on their allegation that the claims were “illegitimate” the Plaintiff wrote in reply on 3rd May,2005 requesting to know the reason for the sudden and unexpected decision and after recounting the history of his futile efforts to have his claims paid he accused the government of flagrant disregard and abuse of his basic human rights and of misreporting to and deceiving the IMF on their professed commitments on the settlements of domestic suppliers’ claims under the PRGF scheme supported by the Fund.
(Copy of the Plaintiff’s letter to the Financial Secretary of the SECOND Defendant dated 3rd May, 2005 is hereby pleaded and marked MKW 149 and shall be relied upon in the course of this case)
21. Of the total part payment made to the Plaintiff in respect of the M.V. “Sharon” 100,000,000 Leones (the equivalent of US $ 101,010.00) was paid on 26th August, 1996 by the administration of the second Defendant which shows clearly that branding the contract as irregular, illegitimate or fraudulent is untenable and unjust. So also is the spirited attempt by the officials of the second Defendant’s administration to rescind or abrogate the M.V. Sharon contract which was met by the recommendations of the Sierra Leone Parliament after due investigation that the contract was valid and the Plaintiff was entitled to his payment (see exhibit 14 in the Plaintiff’s pleading) and the recommendations of the two-man committee set up by the second Defendant to investigate and report to him on how the matter could be resolved.(see exhibit MKW 15 in the Plaintiff’s pleading)
22. The Defendants’ spurious allegation in paragraph 3 of their Defence and paragraphs 2,4,6,7,15,16,21,28 and 29 of their Narration of facts that the Plaintiff was trading or associated with the enemy is equally untenable and is hereby denied. The Defendants did not say who this enemy was and Sierra Leone is not known to have been involved in any war with another State. The country’s civil war was not such a war and none of the parties in that war can be described as “the enemy”.
23. The plaintiff avers that after the Country’s civil war, treason trials were held and those suspected to have been involved on the side of the rebels of the Revolutionary United Front (RUF) were tried and many of them were punished. Throughout those treason trials, not once was the Plaintiff’s name mentioned as a collaborator with the rebels and no evidence of involvement was given against him for which reason he was never tried. Further, when these facts were stated in the application for restoration of the Plaintiff’s citizenship by his lawyer, Mr. Browne-Marke, (see Browne Marke’s letter dated 10th October, 2006) (see Exhibit MKW 24 in the Plaintiff’s pleading) they were not denied by the Defendants. Rather the Defendants were prepared to restore the Plaintiff’s citizenship and revoke his expulsion from the country if he would give up his claims against the government. (see exhibits MKW 25 and MKW 26 in the Plaintiff’s pleading)
24. When the applications for the revocation of the 1998 Deprivations and Expulsions were being considered by the cabinet sub-committee, security checks and investigations were carried out by the Sierra Leone Police on all the applicants including the Plaintiff and in his letter to the Deputy Inspector-General of Police, the National Security Co-coordinator in the office of the President wrote that there was no proof that the applicants had been engaged in subversive activities and/or other dubious and nefarious deal following their expulsion from Sierra Leone.
(Copy of the National Security Co-ordinator’s letter to the Deputy Inspector General of Police dated 24th October, 2006 is hereby pleaded and marked MKW 150 and shall be relied upon in the course of this case)
25. Also in his letter to the chairman, cabinet sub-committee on the review of Expulsion and Deprivation of Citizenship in 1998 dated 30th October, 2006, the Deputy Inspector-General of Police confirmed that there was no “Criminal or Adverse Security record traced against” the Plaintiff and six other applicants expelled and deprived of their citizenship in 1998.
(Copy of the Deputy Inspector-General’s letter dated 30th October, 2006 is hereby pleaded and marked MKW 151 and shall be relied upon in the course of the trial)
The Plaintiff therefore denies the allegations in paragraphs 4, 6, 7, 15, 22 and 29 that he was supplying military hardware to the enemy or engaged in subversive activities.
26. In answer to paragraphs 22, 23, and 24 of the Defendant’s narration of facts, the Plaintiff denies that any of the events occurred when the AFRC government was in power. The persecution of the Plaintiff in the manner narrated in paragraphs 52-54 of the Plaintiff’s pleading was carried out by the second defendant and his government after they succeeded the AFRC government in 1998. The responsibility is therefore, squarely that of the first and second Defendants to compensate the Plaintiff for his losses arising from wrongs done to him through the use of state apparatus and machinery.
27. The Plaintiff denies paragraph 25 of the Defendant’s narration of facts and avers that since he fled from Sierra Leone on 23rd March, 1997 as a result of fear for his personal safety caused by the second Defendant he has never returned to the country up till the present moment, more so because he was expelled therefrom with the implied threat of arrest and detention should he set foot on Sierra Leonean soil.
28. In reply to paragraph 19 of the Defendants’ narration of facts which the Plaintiff denies, the Plaintiff contends that the exercise of the executive power of the State of Sierra Leone vested in the second Defendant by section 51 (3) of the Constitution of Sierra Leone was not meant to be arbitrary but must be guided by a sense of justice and with due regard to the requirements of the rule of law. The second Defendant’s action was clearly an abuse of executive power. Particulars of any justification for the discriminatory rejection of the Plaintiff’s audited and verified claims and the rejection of the Parliamentary Report and recommendations of his two-man committee on the M.V. “Sharon” were not given and the Plaintiff was not afforded the right to challenge the decision which was decisive of his rights to payment in respect of the MV Sharon. This was another violation of the Plaintiff’s rights under Article 7 of the African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights, and the comments of the European Court of Human Rights in the case of Lupsa v. Romania quoted in paragraph 8 above are equally on point here, even more so given that there was not even the pretence that the decision was made for reasons of national security. Reliance is also placed on the principle exemplified by the decision of the European Court of Human Rights in Stran Greek Refineries and Stratis v. Greece [1994] 19 EHRR 293 that the intervention of a state authority decisively to ensure that the outcome of a matter directly involving the state is favourable to it, whilst the matter is ongoing, is an unlawful infringement of the right to a fair trial in respect of that matter.
29. In answer to paragraph 6 of the Defence and paragraphs 27and 28 of the Defendants’ narration of facts, the Plaintiff repeats and shall rely on the averments in paragraphs 57-64 of his pleading to the effect that the Deprivation of his citizenship was made arbitrarily maliciously and without regard to the relevant laws and therefore the said deprivation was without any legal basis.
30. Generally in response to both the first and the second Defendants’ purported justifications for their actions depriving the Plaintiff of his rights, the Plaintiff will rely, in addition to the cases already cited herein, on the plethora of authorities in the field of international human rights law policing the activities of organs of the state. These include, but are not limited to, the judgments of the European Court of Human Rights in the further cases of Baumann v. France [2002] 34EHRR44, Albert and le
Compte v. Belgium [1983] ECHR533, de Gouffre de La Pradelle v. France [1992] A253-B and Fayed v. The United Kingdom [1994] EGRRH. All of these authorities further underline the fundamental, and internationally recognized, human right of an individual to require the decisions of any national authority which affect, whether directly or indirectly, his civil rights to be scrutinized by an impartial tribunal in a procedure with full “equality of arms”. The Plaintiff avers and will contend that at every turn he has been deprived of these rights, which has led ultimately to his being deprived of his right to the judicial resolution of his commercial claims for debts owed to him by the first Defendant.
31. On the Defendant’s counterclaim for the sum of US$ 1.4 million, the Plaintiff repeats and shall rely on the averments in paragraphs 34 -39 and paragraphs 81 and 82 of his pleading to the effect that the Defendants were in breach of contract when they refused to pay the balance due on the M.V. “Sharon” and take delivery of same. The Plaintiff repeats that the sum of US$ 1.4 million or any other sum paid on the contract can only be claimed by the Defendants as a set-off by deducting same from the sum of US$ 11,200,000.00 due to the Plaintiff occasioned by the Defendants’ breach of contract.
32. The Plaintiff shall therefore urge the court to dismiss the counter claim with substantial costs for lack of merit.
Dated this 2nd day of October, 2007.
B. J. AKOMOLAFE ESQ.
CHIEF AFE BABALOLA, SAN & CO,
PLAINTIFF’S COUNSEL,
24, MADEIRA STREET,
(EMMANUEL HOUSE)
IMANI ESTATE,
MAITAMA,
ABUJA
NIGERIA.
Plaintiff’s Solicitor’s address for service at the seat of the Court:
CHIEF AFE BABALOLA, SAN & CO.
PLAINTIFF’S COUNSEL,
24, MADEIRA STREET,
(EMMANUEL HOUSE)
IMANI ESTATE,
MAITAMA,
ABUJA
NIGERIA.
Names of persons authorized to accept service:
(1) Chief Afe Babalola Esq. (SAN)
(2) Any of his Staff
Service may also be effected on the Plaintiff’s Solicitors by telefax or other technical means of communication in accordance with Article 33 Rule 2 on facsimile No. (234) 09-7803145,
E-mail: bankoleakomolafe@yahoo.com or abutu_j@yahoo.co.uk and/or (234) 073-453886 and E-mail: uit_nig@yahoo.com.
ADDRESS FOR SERVICE ON THE DEFENDANTS
1. The Republic of Sierra Leone
C/o The Sierra Leone High Commissioner to Nigeria
Plot 308 Mission Road,
Diplomatic Zone, Central Business
District, Area 10, Garki
Abuja.
And/or
The Republic of Sierra Leone
Office of the President
Presidential Lodge
Hill Station
Freetown
Republic of Sierra Leone
Tel: 234-003, 231-518
2. Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah
C/o The Sierra Leone High Commissioner to Nigeria
Plot 308 Mission Road,
Diplomatic Zone, Central Business
District, Area 10, Garki
Abuja.
And/or
Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah
Office of the President
Presidential Lodge
Hill Station
Freetown
Republic of Sierra Leone
Tel: 234-003, 231-518
IN THE COMMUNITY COURT OF JUSTICE
OF THE ECONOMIC COMMUNITY OF
WEST AFRICAN STATES (ECOWAS)
HOLDEN AT ABUJA, NIGERIA
SUIT No. ECW/CCJ/APP/07/07
BETWEEN:
Mohamed Kamel Wansa
Trading as “D & M Impex”, “Melborne Enterprise” PLAINTIFF / APPLICANT
and “Vulga Nova Pharmacy”
AND
1. The Republic of Sierra Leone
2. Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah, Defendants/RESPONDENTS
Former President of the Republic of
Sierra Leone
SCHEDULE LISTING DOCUMENTS RELIED ON BY PLAINTIFF
S/N. EXIBIT NO. PARTICULARS
1 MKW 147 Copy of the relevant pages of the Revised
Treaty of the Economic Community
of West African States (ECOWAS) containing the signatories to the Revised Treaty including the signature of Captain Valentine Strasser, Head of the NPRC on behalf of the Republic of Sierra Leone.
S/N. EXIBIT NO. PARTICULARS
2 MKW 148 Copy of the Summary of the Plaintiff’s
claims as approved for payment by the
Auditor Mrs. Estina Kabia
3 MKW 149 Copy of the Plaintiff’s letter to the
Financial Secretary of the second Defendant dated 3rd May, 2005
4 MKW 150 Copy of the National Security
Co-ordinator’s letter to the Deputy Inspector-General of Police dated 24th October, 2006
5 MKW 151 Copy of the Deputy Inspector-General’s
letter dated 30th October, 2006
IN THE COMMUNITY COURT OF JUSTICE
OF THE ECONOMIC COMMUNITY OF
WEST AFRICAN STATES (ECOWAS)
HOLDEN AT ABUJA, NIGERIA
SUIT No. ECW/CCJ/APP/07/07
BETWEEN:
Mohamed Kamel Wansa
Trading as “D & M Impex”, “Melborne Enterprise” PLAINTIFF / APPLICANT
and “Vulga Nova Pharmacy”
AND
1. The Republic of Sierra Leone
2. Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan-Kabbah, Defendants/RESPONDENTS
Former President of the Republic of
Sierra Leone
CASES REFERRED TO IN THE PLAINTIFF’S REPLY TO DEFENDANT’S DEFENCE
1. PROSECUTOR V CHARLES GHANKAY TAYLOR, CASE NO. SCSL-2003-01-01, 31 MAY, 2004.
2. ISSA HASSAN SESSAY & OTHERS V THE PRESIDENT OF THE SPECIAL COURT & OTHERS, CASE NO. S.C. 1/2003, 14 OCTOBER,2005
3 GOLDER V UNITED KINGDOM (1975) 1EHRR524
4 LUPSA V ROMANIA (2006) 2 FCR 685
5 STAN GREEK REFINERIES AND STRATIS V GREECE (1994) 19EHRR293
6 BAUMANN V FRANCE (2002) 34EHRR44
7 ALBERT AND LE COMPTE V BELGIUM (1983) ECHR533
8 DE GEOUFFRE DE LA PRADELLE V FRANCE (1992) A253-B
9 FAYED V THE UNITED KINGDOM (1994) 18EGRR
Subject: Gosh!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 23:29:11 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Yah!
Subject: All my life
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 23:25:41 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Wow!
Subject: Would you?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:50:53 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Of course I would.
Subject: Are you with me!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:49:06 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Lets jam.
Subject: Ex President Kabba and Presidential Immunity
From: Joseph A.K Sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:42:27 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gateway.cyberstar.com at 209.239.66.36
Message:
Examining Presidential Immunity –The Case Before the ECOWAS Court
Posted on Oct 11, 2007, 13:25
Immunity basically exempts Heads of State or Government officials (for the purpose of this article) from prosecutions for alleged crimes committed before a court of law. In Sierra Leone jurisprudence, the 1991 constitution provides for a Presidential immunity. It states that immunity applies to any person holding or performing the functions of the Office of the President. As spelt out in section 48(4), no civil or criminal proceedings can be instituted or continued against him in respect of anything done either by act or omission by him either in official or private capacity. Immunity can also be applicable for unofficial acts or omission for a person holding or performing the functions of the Office of the President. This is to ensure that there is no burden that would hinder the ability of the President to perform his official duties effectively.
However, international courts can exercise jurisdiction over a serving head of state. Some International statutes articulate that Heads of State are not immune from criminal prosecution and can be found individually criminally responsible if there is sufficient evidence that they authorized or perpetrated international crimes. Article 6(2) of the Statute of the Special Court for Sierra Leone (SCSL) provides that “the official position of any accused person, whether as Head of State of Government or a responsible government Official shall not relieve such a person of criminal responsibility…” In 2004 the SCSL rejected a preliminary motion by Charles Taylor requesting that the Court drops his indictment and all consequential orders against him because at the time they were issued he was the President of Liberia during which he enjoyed Presidential immunity. Citing long-established precedent, including the Charters of the Nuremberg and the Tokyo Tribunals, the Statutes of the International Criminal Tribunals for the former Yugoslavia and for Rwanda, the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court and the Special Court’s own Statute, the SCSL ruled that Charles Taylor was not immune from prosecution stating that Heads of State do not enjoy immunity for crimes under international law. Article 27(2) of the Statute of the International Criminal Court (ICC) provides that the Statute “…shall apply equally to all persons without any distinction based on official capacity…” Similarly, Article 7 of the Charter of the International Military Tribunal (Nuremberg Charter), states that “the official position of defendants, whether as Heads of State or responsible official in government shall not bar prosecution.
Currently, there is a case before the Community Court of Justice (CCJ) of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS), between Mohamed Kamel Wansa Trading as “D & M Impex”, “Melborne Enterprise” and Vulga Nova Pharmacy” as the Plaintiff and the Republic of Sierra Leone as the First defendant and His Excellency, Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, former President of the Republic of Sierra Leone as the Second defendant. The suit is filed (inter alia) pursuant to Art. 11(1), 9(4), of the Protocol of the CCJ, Art. 2, 5, 7, 12(1) (2) and 14 of the African Charter on Human and People’s Rights, Art. 32 and 33 of the Rules of the CCJ and Section 15, 18, and 27(2) of the 1991 Constitution of the Republic of Sierra Leone. The Plaintiff alleged that his right against discrimination was violated by the First and Second defendants through an outright denial of payment for goods and services supplied to the Government of Sierra Leone (GOSL) and an unlawful and arbitrary expulsion from Sierra Leone for the purpose of denying him his legitimate payment for goods and services supplied to the GOSL. The Court can adjudicate on the matter because the Plaintiff’s applications are pursuant to international instruments such as the African Charter on Human and People’s Rights and the Protocol of the CCJ. It can be argued that the second defendant had Presidential immunity during the time for which the Plaintiff seeks redress as a result no court action can be instituted against him. Furthermore, in the Sierra Leone jurisprudence, certain acts or omission by the State are not justiceable. On the other hand, international instruments take precedence over national Laws and practices. However, for some of the applications pursuant to the 1991 constitution of the Republic of Sierra Leone and the Sierra Leone Citizenship Act, it is likely that the Second defendant can claim Presidential immunity for actions carried out while he was the President. He cannot be liable for prosecution as set out in Sec. 48(4) of the 1991 Constitution of the Republic of Sierra Leone while he is in the discharge of the duties of the office of the President. However, he must convince the court as to why he should be immune from prosecution. This tradition goes back to Spalding v. Vilas (1896). There the Court held: "In exercising the function of his office, the head of an Executive Department, keeping within the limitations of his authority, should not be under any apprehension that the motives that control his official conduct may at any time become the subject of inquiry in a civil suit for damages. It would cripple the proper and effective administration of public affairs as entrusted to the Executive Branch of the government if he were subject to any such restraint." [Spalding v. Vilas 1896 161 U.S. 483 (1896)] The burden must lie with the President to prove why his office mandates his immunity from the law which is the only arbiter of justice.
As regarded by International instruments, the protection of human rights should be a responsibility of any state. Suffice it to say that the Plaintiff’s application pursuant to Art 13(1) and (2) of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights which states that “Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state” and, “Everyone has the right to leave in any country, including his own, and to return to his country” should be adjudicated. In addition, by virtue of the fact that international instruments take precedence over national laws and practice, it will be little wonder if the Second defendant is held responsible as alleged. If the CCJ upholds this phenomenon, it would send a message to all sitting Heads of State that one cannot use the protection of Presidential immunity to causally violate the Rights of others.
Subject: Cocorioko Idiot Admires John Mannah!
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 21:07:09 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
In one of his copious articles, Dr. John Mannah disparaged Cocorioko as the home of idiots. So I asked one of the resident Cocorioko idiots, who happens to be a very good friend of mine, to declare his admiration for John Mannah in the SLPP forum. The following is my buddy's ode to the incomparable Doctor.
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Posted by John Mannah Fan on October 11, 2007 at 05:39:43:
I am riting to let evrybody knows that John Mannah is the bests interlecsual in the histry of sarra leone. I knose some of you are very yelos of the great John Mannah. Some of you are yuths of Momoh and SSD shaka Probin Stivins from cocorioko whu want to bring don the best interlecsual brains from the contrie of sarra lione. Bot you will all fail lek the agboloh frog in the cat's mot. Sarra leonnans must stop the bad haert for the brains of john Mannah and his economics superioriness. Mohamid yalloh, bai bureh, Amidu bayOh, Moses kpaka, Somtin butU and the odher haterers shuld go jump in Lumliy beachch if they can not admire our next plesedent and the only plesident wit a real true true PHD in the tranga econimix digri, his exselensy the nomba ones plesedent, Dokytor John Mannah. Lonta
Sinsialay,
John Mannah Fanatic!
Plesedent of John Mannah fan Clob all ober the worlds
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In Reply to: JOHN MANNAH FOR PRESIDENT! posted by John Mannah Fan on October 11, 2007 at 05:39:43:
Correcson: Sorry for mistaking the spielin of PLESEDENT. My tupit nephew rote the wrong spelin. It shudint be PRESIDENT. Correct spelin is PLESEDENT. Please forgiv my very tupit nephew.
John Mannah Fanatic
Subject: Re: Cocorioko Idiot Admires John Mannah!
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 04:28:32 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-202-227.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.202.227
Message:
Fan, your posting was difficult to read. However, I was able to make sense
out of it. Who is John Mannah? What was/is his contribution(s) to the
republic of Sierra Leone? Could you please defend his legacy?
Subject: Re: Cocorioko Idiot Admires John Mannah!
From: Answer
To: All
Date Posted: 09:10:28 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
He is a linguistically challenged mende triablist and lie-lie "financial economis" (LOL). He is being driven crazy by the failure of his scheme to plunder the money of the people of Salone on the coat-tail of a corrupt SLPP.
Subject: The APC Party
From: Eku Richards
To: All
Date Posted: 19:17:25 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: jrichards20@cox.net
Entered From: ip72-192-61-24.ri.ri.cox.net at 72.192.61.24
Message:
I have read Cocorioko for some weeks now and all I read is praises for the APC party. I want to say we are all praying for the new government to stamp out corruption and make Sierra Leone a great nation. However it appears many of us are suffering from amnesia because it was not the SLPP did destroyed our country but the one party, non democratic and corrupt rule of the APC party
I know Kabba achieved zero but lets not forget it was because of APC corruption that got us into civil war.
Therefore lets all pray for the new president that God will help him.
Subject: Re: The APC Party
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:47:27 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Mr. Eku Richards:
Please note that President Kabbah achieved much more than zero.
He brought peace to SL during his first term and succeeded in persuading the international community to bankroll SL humantarian calamity. During his second term, he commenced work on building institutions and improving infrastructure nation-wide.
Lungi Airport was renovated superbly. The old colonial secretariate building, destroyed by the AFRC/RUF, was rebuilt. The Bank of Sierra Leone building as well as the law courts were rebuilt and/or renovated. Schools, markets, health clinics, hospitals, waterwells, lorry parks and latrines were either renovated, rebuilt or build anew nationwide.
Next, President Kabbah embarked on infrasturcture development and institution-building. The road from MaSiaka to Makeni was completed with with a hard, smooth, blacktop finish. The hardtop renovation of the road from Bo to MaSiaka had reached Taiama at election time.
Various institutions were being created via detailed legislation and included NASSIT, intended to provide cash substenance for old age destitute citizens and into whose bank account the proceeds of the sale of Libyan-donated rice were deposited to provide it (NASSIT) with the initial capital.
Thus, merely because voters voted out the SLPP does not mean that Kabbah's SLPP Administrations achieved zero while in office. In the future, please try to be fair in your criticisms. Thank you very much. - JL
Subject: Re: The APC Party
From: Kalangba
To: All
Date Posted: 04:36:18 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
when you take the manes of krio people you should at least write like they would. You dont sound like an Ekundayoh Richards.
Subject: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 19:07:07 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I am a bit skittish over the fact that Ernest Koroma's "The New Dawn in Sierra Leone" has so far ignored the South-Eastern parts of the country. A cabinet formed with the need for a geographic balance could reduce the long-held feelings of estrangement harbored in the South-East against the APC. Judging by his choice of cabinet Ministers, President Koroma has so far shown that the APC--like the SLPP--cannot submerge ethnic temptations for a composite Sierra Leone wedded to national oneness. Most, if not all, the weighty cabinet posts were either assigned to the West, or simply given to the North, Ekutay style.
What is Ernest Koroma's geographic perception of Sierra Leone? Is he not interested in breaking the ethnic blocs formed by both the SLPP and APC over the years? The SLPP and APC are generally regarded as ethnic-driven parties heavily reliant on South-Eastern and Northern kinships respectively. "A New Dawn in Sierra Leone," as Cocorioko calls it, could have transcended regional folksiness by giving Sierra Leone a regionally balanced cabinet. So far, the new cabinet looks like an exact replica of an Ekutay edifice. Where is this "New Dawn" taking us, me famble dem?
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:30 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.242.28
Message:
Food for Thought
Under SLPP:
President-Tejan Kabba (South East)
Vice President-Solo Bee(South East)
Minister of Finance-John Benjamin(South East)
Minister of Foreign Affairs-Momodu Koroma(South East)
Minister of Mines-Swarray Deen(South East)
Minister of Transport-Prince Harding(South East)
Minister of Works-Boima(South East)
Minister of Gender Affairs-Gbujama(South East)
Commissioner of Revenue-Karimu(South East)
Minister of Information-Kai Kai (South East)
Minister of Internal Affairs-Egbenda(South East)
Did anyone complain?
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:25:53 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Dear BRA ENVIABLE:
Please, please allow the New APC government of President Koroma sufficient time to get established securely and demonstrate its capacity to provide good governance for our country. So far, in my view, he is doing just great!
Frankly, whether officials are from this or that tribe or section of the country is not really significant. What matters is whether those appointed to public office have the superior talent/ability to provide and can indeed provide sustainable good governance for our people after years and years of suffering from poor governance.
Presidents Siaka Stevens, Momoh, Kabbah and the NPRC coupists all had officials whose origins reflected national geographic balance; but did they all work effectively all the time to improve the lives of our people sustainably? NO!
So please let's focus on what the new government can deliver to uplift our peoples lives and modernize our backward country, rather than on whether a particular region or tribe has officeholders in President Koroma's newly elected administration. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 20:03:21 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe000039fc3f61-cm000039fc3e61.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com at 99.229.75.232
Message:
I may be naive, but there is bound to be a certain amount of "imbalance" in a cabinet selection. Basically a president selects people that he is close to, people he trusts, people that helped finance or worked for his campaign, and people that supported his party. As you have stated in your piece, the APC and SLPP are regionally based parties so it should be expected that the people that fall within theses categories will be disproportionately represented. This is not unusual in politics - during the Clinton years, the FOB's were everywhere. In the Bush II era, the administration resembles the Texas governor's mansion. IMHO, regional balance is achieved through the parliament, who are elected representatives of the people and can protect the interests of their constituents. The president's cabinet should be made up of (hopefully ) competent people that support and can execute the president's agenda, irrespective of their region of origin.
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: Yayah Kallay
To: All
Date Posted: 02:49:29 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
Message:
Latae!
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:25:37 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
Fellow Sierra Leoneans, are we the tribalists, sectionalists and opportunists or is the President the tribalist and sectionalist?
The reason I asked is that the President has not finished naming his cabinet, we have jumped all over him with accusations that we have not thoroughly investigated and or confirmed to be true yet, we are speaking authoritatively as though we are positively sure of what we are claiming. Ten chances to one, most here do not even know the actual sectional or tribal origins of some of the named Ministers but are basing their suppositions on name recognition, supposed affiliation, baseless stereotyping and the like, without any thorough knowledge of who is who or who has what sectional or tribal affiliations?
Are we interested in people that will work effectively with the President to promote his agenda and push the country forward or just any one that is called a Minister hailing from all over the place? I would think that what we should be concerned with is whether or not the mentioned people have the ethics and leadership personalities to work with the President for the betterment of Sierra Leone and not what tribe or section they belong to. Does it matter if all Ministers come from the South but cannot help the Southern people? To kill tribalistic and sectionalistic sentiments, we must deviate from irate assumptions based solely on tribe and section and rather think national.
What we must be thinking is, do the President view these partial Cabinet members to be people who seek the interest of Sierra Leone as a nation not on sectional components, and that working with them will bring national consciousness because of things they have done in the past, ideas they have that are far removed from tribal and or sectional fickleness?
To point to you that you have been very unfair in your assessments is the fact that you did not know or recall that the Vice President is from Kono, which symbolizes the President's inclusive agenda, in that Kono is in the Eastern Province therefore, the East has got a representation. More so, as I mentioned earlier, we do not even know about the sections from which some of the named Ministers hail yet, we continue to categorically claim that they are all from the North and the West. That is an unfair assessment because we do not have any substantial evidence to purport our claims besides we have not assessed their national interest, their leadership personalities and ethical fitness to perform for a better Sierra Leone rather, we base our arguments on tribe and sections, as I said, that we have no proof of..
I am pleading with you to be patient, look forward to a better Sierra Leone by thinking national and stop hopping for your family members to be Ministers, as this was a reason Sierra Leone failed. Most members who were Ministers hailed from constituencies and the same tribe but did not help the people at all, which the President sees a hindrance to the people he cares for therefore, he is looking to put people in positions that will work in the interest of the people not those that will satisfy the people with tribal affiliation or the sectional identification gratification. We are Sierra Leoneans first and we are looking for those who will route Sierra Leone out of the mess she is in whether they are Mendes Temene, Krio o Susu does not matter. What matters is, will they bring Sierra Leone the needs that we urgently want satisfied.
Be patient.
Subject: Re: WHERE IS ERNEST KOROMA'S "NEW DAWN" TAKING OUR COUNTRY?
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 08:48:28 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Bambay and others:
I don't believe that a President is obligated nor should he/she strive to achieve an ethnic balance in his/her cabinet. The fact is, I don't see how a President can avoid a cabinet that reflects the diversity of the nation. I can live with a cabinet that does not because that is the perogative of the President and, as has been pointed out by others, diversity in and of itself does not produce results.
Having said this however, there is something troubling about the now complete (I presume) Koroma cabinet. President Koroma had during the election campaign and in its aftermath made much of the concept of a "government of national unity." The rhetoric just doesn't seem to be matched by recent actions. Perhaps, most troubling for me in this regard is the answer President Koroma gave to a question regarding ethnic divisions in Sierra Leone during his recent BBC interview. As anyone who is being honest will attest, the recent election results manifested a deepening ethnic divide in the political landscape of Sierra Leone. Voters clearly voted on ethnic lines. A question on this issue was posed to the President by a listener, who wanted to know what he would do to bridge this gap. This, in my mind was a golden opportunity to seize a very crucial issue for this Government and our country going forward. However, I think the President erred-- saying essentially, there is no ethnic divide in the political arena; voters did not vote on ethnic lines, pointing out incorrectly (and I quote) that he and his party won made "substantial inroads into and won considerable votes in Kailahun, Pujehun and Bonthe". I don't want to be prickly on this, but I believe it is an important insight into where the President's head is-- on this vexing issue, I think it is a state of denial. The President went on to say that in winning such votes he had "improved" on his performance in 2002. This he said indicated "acceptance" (I guess of the APC in those regions, and presumably supported his contention that voting in the 2007 did not occur along ethnic lines).
In spefically answering what he would do to address the perceived ethnic divide, Koroma said this: we have ensured a smooth transition and is committed to forming (and I quote) an "all-inclusive goverment" , most notably in the "representation of most, if not all districts in the cabinet."
Well, I leave it to each person to decide whether the rhetoric matches reality.
Subject: TRANSITIONAL TEAM REPORT : A DISCLAIMER
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 17:49:08 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
TRANSITIONAL TEAM REPORT : A DISCLAIMER
State House wants it to be known that the published Transitional Team Report on this forum is not a finished document or final version of the TT REPORT . This is just a draft version that has not gone through the normal process of scrutiny . The final version will be made available to the public when it is ready.
UNFORTUNATELY, somebody surreptitiously leaked out this discarded version of the TRANSITIONAL TEAM REPORT to Leonenet .
Please ignore and await the final and authorized version.
DISCLAIMER AUTHORIZED BY :
The Technical Coordinating Committee of the Presidential Transition Team
State House
Freetown
Sierra Leone
Subject: Re: TRANSITIONAL TEAM REPORT : A DISCLAIMER
From: Transparency
To: All
Date Posted: 18:05:30 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-69-20.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.69.20
Message:
Rev Kabs do you know how one can obtain details about the membership and credentials of the Presidential Transitional Team?
Subject: Balanced Cabinet
From: Independent Voice
To: All
Date Posted: 17:43:06 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
In response to the editorial comment about having a balanced cabinet, it most be noted that the president is limited in his capacity to appoint talent from the diaspora specifically, due to a new clause within the constitution that requires ministerial appointments to go to registered voters only. This requirement puts a number of qualified individuals in the diaspora in a conundrum – as most are not registered to vote in Sierra Leone. I guess we could all appreciate why naming individuals for ministerial positions is taking a while and has not being an easy task for the president.
Subject: Leone Stars For Kabs Kanu
From: Mohammed Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:18:36 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: totti23@hotmail.com
Entered From: mcstudent.montgomerycollege.edu at 160.253.128.7
Message:
Rev,
I know you are a great soccer fan, i have a suggestion. I want to appeal to you and the Cocorioko team to have a sports page with emphasis on the Sierra Leone sports arena, especially with our national team the Leone Stars. We have a very crucial game next weekend for the preliminary round of the world cup 2010 elimination.We in the diaspora depends on this medium for news from back home, if a sports page with information on out team will be added, such move will be a great one.
There is a Sierra Leonean that reports for goal.com, Ibrahim Dabo, which i guess will be willing to assist with the reporting if contacted.
Thank you very much.
Subject: APC SUPPORTERS & KOROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: PMDC FANATIC
To: All
Date Posted: 16:52:51 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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I left Salone in 1996. The main street running up to the cotton tree was Siaka Steven Street. Now it is Sani Abacha Street. It is a national disgrace to remove the name of the name of a Sierra Leonean in favor of a Nigerian Military Dictator. We have not run out of names or heroes.
Pa Koroma was also a strong advocate for the redemption of Yenga from Guinean troop occupation. I hope it was not a part payment for Kabbah's political restoration.
I'll take a defective Pa Siaka Stevens to a brutal dictator who executed Ken Sarawiwa. I still refer to it as Siaka Steven Street. Kailahun is my hometown and Siaka Stevens is a fellow Alumni of the Albert Academy.
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KOROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 20:07:08 10/11/07 ()
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I think it is Kissy Street that was renamed Sani Abacha Street, but I may be wrong.
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KOROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 01:44:59 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: mfofana2004@sbcglobal.net
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You are right, it was Kissy Street and not Siaka Steven Street. I know a business at 17 Sani Abacha Street and I was there this past March, 2007.
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KOROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: june savage
To: All
Date Posted: 18:32:10 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: ujnal@hotmail.com
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This is how you people spread false news. Siaka Stevens Street still exists. Check your fact well.
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KOROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: Yaya Fanusie
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Date Posted: 17:35:55 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: saigobe@lanset.com
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PMDC FANATIC,
The new govt and every Sierra Leonean have to know what is important at this time. And Street name change is not important. Let us spend our time and resources now to create wealth for our people by expanding productivity of food, etc. Let us create jobs for our people. Converstions On Africa(COA)is planning major fundraising activities and events to raise one million dollars to provide grants for loan enterprises owned by Sierra Leone women. visit www.coaforum.com and please contact me so I can brief you on how you could be part of this wonderful drive to expand the businesses owned women in Sierrra Leone. Call me at 301-238-4396
If we collaborate it will happen so fast. WE can make Sierra Leone the financial and tourist capital of africa in the short-run.
Yaya Fanusie-COA
WWW.TOADFACE.COM
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: PMDC FANATIC
To: All
Date Posted: 17:49:59 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
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I am a patriot and find it high on my social platter as much as you find raising funds high on your platter.
I think they can be done simultaneoulsy.
Don't use my request to promote your Non profit call. If you ARE not interested in it don't cry it down. It makes you single minded.
Again, I am appealing to APC supporters to advocate the change of Sani Abacha Street o Siaka Steven street and the redemption of Yenga.
Subject: Re: APC SUPPORTERS & KROMA PLEASE REVERSE OWNERSHIP
From: PMDC FANATIC
To: All
Date Posted: 17:49:11 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: epa@gmail.com
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I am a patriot and find it high on my social platter as much as you find raising funds high on your platter.
I think they can be done simultaneoulsy.
Don't use my request to promote your Non profit call. If you ARE not interested in it don't cry it down. It makes you single minded.
Again, I am appealing to APC supporters to advocate the change of Sani Abacha Street o Siaka Steven street and the redemption of Yenga.
Subject: From Standard Times News
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 15:52:19 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: mfofana2004@sbcglobal.net
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MEDIA & SOCIETY
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Mayor Of Freetown Writes...Reviewing That Kasho Wellington SLBS/TV Saga
Posted by Winstanley.R.Bankole. Johnson on Oct 11, 2007, 13:07
I have written a few incisive articles recently but unlike the pre-August 11 days, none has elicited the usual terse, unethical and most times uncalled-for reactions. Those authors are lurked somewhere still licking their wounds, and hoping (God forbid) for evidence of non-performance by the APC to pounce. So it is either that we now have a “King who knows not Joseph” or as we put it in other forum “time and circumstances has restored the genuine”
But that is not what democracy and good governance should be like. Exchanging frank but honest views without malice or recriminations is all part of a nation’s development process, and if it is happening elsewhere I see no reason why Sierra Leone with less than six million people should be any different.
Sierra Leoneans have remained divided for too long and most times for very petty reasons – like politics – when in fact very little difference exists in the agendas of the different political parties we claim to belong to. As I have often said, beyond our National Anthem and National Flag, nothing else unites us as a country. There is neither a battle cry, nor anything else that can stir up nationalistic fervour in the Sierra Leonean - as is common among for example, the Ghanaians.
It was clear from the outcome of the just concluded elections, that the voting pattern assumed tribal, ethnic or regional biases, which certainly does not hold good for our country. So we need to do a lot more to keep us together as a people with undivided destiny, by first doing away with our revengeful “tit-for-tat” culture.
As a matter of fact, I will make bold to recommend that President Bai Koroma should make visiting those areas in which our APC Party performed dismally a matter of Presidential priority, not only to win over potentials for future elections, but also to convince those whose minds had been manipulated to see the APC as a Northern-based party that indeed he is President of the entire Sierra Leone.
For my part, I will by this write-up be extending the olive branch to a man like J.J.Saffa the SLPP Secretary General, (whose face I honestly don’t know), by inviting him to a lunch presently, to show that with the elections long over, everyone is required onboard to take the development of this country forward. Opposition parties in parliament can ensure that through persistent but credible criticisms that will always keep the government on its toes because criticisms they say eliminates complacency.
It is only when we begin to see ourselves as one people with a common cause that we will become more ethical in our judgement of the predicament of others and without prejudice. Which brings me to the SLBS saga of a few days ago, heralding the totally unacceptable and unorthodox exit of the Director pro-tem, Mr. Kahso Wellington. At his upper 60s age, I am sure that was the least kind of ingratitude he ever expected.
In the glare of SLBS TV viewers and eyewitnesses – including his close family members and friends all watching helplessly in utter disbelief, a whole parastatal head - in the line of duty - was roundly molested by his own subordinates, with indictments been read out to him in a make-shit kangaroo court, after which he was bundled away by the Police who in fact were supposed to have offered him protection in the first place.
That sordid episode was to me like corporate governance assuming new and riskier dimensions. And everyone else appears to have seen the funny side of that development – except me of course and for obvious reasons as follows-:
Kasho Wellington, though Acting Head, has since his appointment years ago been directly supervised by a Transition management Team – of which Alhaji. I.B. Kargbo was a member, and all of whom are vicariously liable for his misdemeanours. And wasn’t it odd that Alhaji I.B.Kargbo was readily on hand to “calm” the workers down?
The SLBS is not the only Parastatal in the history of this country to have experienced industrial unrest. Anti-management demonstrations at the SIERRATEL, SALPOST and the Sierra National Airlines to name but a few are frequent and of far worse dimensions than that at the SLBS.
At SIERRATEL, pitched battles culminating in the malicious wounding of Police officers on duty (a serious offence for which continue to stand charged in the Court) were run between the management and staff for days on end. But the police were timely and permanently stationed within the precincts to ensure that Alpha Sesay carried out his duties unruffled and oblivious of the equally same staff appeal against persistent salary delays and generally poor working conditions. He is till there, albeit to the detriment of the country.
At SALPOST, not even the indictable outcomes of a Commission of Inquiry (and its ensuing “White Paper”) could ensure the exit of Kanji Daramy who despite abundant evidence of gross ineptitude has since received a double promotion – first as Presidential Spokesman and later as Chairman of the Telecommunications Commissions.
I am reliably informed that after that disgraceful episode and the ensuing adverse Press reports against him, Kasho Wellington was even prevented from legitimately transacting over his bona-fide Bank Account. Do you now see why well-meaning individuals shy away from political appointments?
I am aghast as to why the government should have supported such an openly discriminatory approach, by insisting that Kaso proceeds immediately on an indefinite leave, purely on the basis of staff uprising. Apart from their actions being out rightly lawless, no group of workers have the right to disgracefully and forcefully evict their institutional head from office. If it were that easy I suppose Parastatals would be changing their Managing Directors on a daily basis.
And I honestly think that Mr. Wellington should be recalled and allowed the right to also be thoroughly investigated prior to a decent but compulsory exit under the same amnesty granted key servants of former President Kabba. After all what is good for geese like Alpha Sesay and kanji Daramy should equally be good for gander “Wellington”. Do I hear someone whispering “double standards”?
Even as he reads this piece, Kaso Wellington himself will no doubt be gob smacked accept that it is coming from me, the man who when he was introduced to in early 2005 as the Mayor of Freetown recklessly retorted “Oh is this the chap?”. And he has shown contempt for me since. Come on Kaso even as boys, Princes Willie and Harry got more respect from their subjects!!
So let me now address the demerits of Kaso that warranted his disgraceful exit. In every sense of each word he was thoroughly a “system man” - arrogant, self-centered, conceited, egoistic, and virtually lacking in every corporate ethics engendering competence, which was why he couldn’t perceive the early warning signals heralding his “crash”.
He served his employers more than the country to his own detriment, and if ever he respected you it was purely on the whims of the government apparatchiks – Berewa or Tejan-Kabbah. Under his regime and on “orders from above”, the Freetown City Council received permanent news black-out, despite repeated appeals by my former Chief Administrator Miss. Sarah. Lewis and verbal promises from Dr. Septimus Kai-Kai for him to do so. That was why my 2006 Mayor’s Christmas message was done in the papers and via the ABC TV network.
He chose rather unwittingly to publicly malign those whom he piggy-backed into a prominence leading to his being awarded a covetous national insignia for “acting” as Managing Director of our national broadcasting house, which position he never trained for during his over 25 years absence from the country.
Like members of the Transition Management Team that supervised Kaso, the past government must equally accept full responsibility for failure to either have timeously arranged for the basic needs or strategic exit of staff, without disrupting “team spirit”. But again Kaso Wellington was not a Manager.
So what are the lessons here to be learnt? Simple! No matter how popular you appear to be, always remember that authority comes from God alone, and that it is only for a limited time. The people who brought you into prominence are merely instruments of God. So never betray your conscience by trying to please them.
On several occasions, Kaso Wellington closed the door on reality, only for him to see it coming back to him through the window, but still he ignored those signals. So by his unwarranted and disgraceful exit, he has finally come to realize that by resisting to become a shining example of corporate ethics, he has simply ended up becoming a horrible lesson to others.
But thankfully, Kaso Wellington has a fall back position. Not in politics, but through the straight and narrow as a repentant disciple of Jesus Christ, living henceforth by the Gospel.
They that hath ears…………let them hear!
Subject: APC VS CHARLES MARGAI
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 15:38:05 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
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A TOP APC BIG WIG TOLD ME THEY DO NOT TRUST CHARLES MARGAI. HE ADDED THAT CHARLES HAS WHAT HE LABELLED - "IT HAS TO BE ME AND NOBODY ELSE SYNDROME".
MY SOURCE ASKED TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS.
BROTHER Toegondoe Sagbah (MUS)WHAT'S YOUR TAKE ON THIS?
Subject: Re: APC VS CHARLES MARGAI
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 15:47:35 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Boy are you here to pull guys' legs or get them started? I believe nobody told you this; it is just something you have made up to create a scene.
Subject: Re: APC VS CHARLES MARGAI
From: UK5
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Date Posted: 15:59:28 10/11/07 ()
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Well I guess the guy is here to make an impression big time! Is he trying to drive a wedge between the formidable bondage of APC and Charles Margai? Well, can't give it a thought because its 'credible' rate is just insignificant for now. Future? Can't bet on a long term smooth relationship. Two parties are distinct by identity. Goals and objectives clearly similar at some point: Kick out the SLPP! Now, we'll have to wait and see the strength of the president's leadership. MARGAI WILL ONLY BE AS STRONG AS PRESIDENT KOROMA IS WEAK!
Subject: Re: APC VS CHARLES MARGAI
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 15:52:30 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
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THE MOST FEARFUL WORRIOR BAI BUREH, I GOT THIS INFO FROM A RELIABLE SOURCE CLOSE TO THE POWERS THAT BE.
BY THE WAY I USED TO ENJOY YOUR KRIO JOKES. BUT THE INFO ABOVE IS NO JOKE. LET'S GET THE PMDC GUYS TO TELL US MY SOURCE IS WRONG.
Subject: Mannah
From: Observer32
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Date Posted: 14:12:23 10/11/07 ()
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I just found out from the Global Project Realnews archives that the article Mannah is referring to as being ranked 12/85 or thereabout, is not a peer-reviewed article. Professionally, I think this is misleading. This is nothing personal against the man. He seems to be academically accomplished. However, in the context of a debate about economic writings one would have expected a reference to a more scholarly journal not the Awareness Times.
Subject: Re: Mannah
From: Kanforie Sorie Koroma
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Date Posted: 14:25:16 10/11/07 ()
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The guy is just ostentatious and vain. I don't know what that ranking is doing for him.It just shows how pettey he is.And to use Awreness Times as reference is even more bizarre. But did not Gbanabome of Patriotic Vanguard do a similar and even more ridiculous acknowledgement ? These guys are taking pettiness to new levels.
Subject: Re: Mannah
From: Idris
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Date Posted: 14:34:06 10/11/07 ()
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If Mannah is ostentatious and vain to quote you, then Moh'm Jalloh is because he too displays his achievements regularly in this forum. Those who know him will not deny this.
Subject: Re: Mannah
From: Abdul
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Date Posted: 16:27:35 10/11/07 ()
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You are missing an important distinction. Jalloh's achievements are a matter of public record because he was a public offical and he is now a recognized professional with public awards. Those who know him know that he is unassuming, but he does nor take nonsense from anyone.
Subject: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 12:47:41 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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I know that most SLPP feel I criticized the government too much during the past election, I did. But if you read all my articles on the websit provided below, you will find that:
1. The majority of my criticism was about the SLPP providing the basic aminities for the ordinary people.
2. Some more of my criticisms were levied against the undemocratic actions the SLPP utilized at their conventions which culminated in their electing the "wrong" leader.
3. The pervasive and blatant corruption that was abound as if instruments of government property was privately theirs.
Perhaps the most important of those criticisms (the ones about providing the basic amenities), would have superceded every other need for the SLPP to implement, had they CARED ENOUGH to do it...BUT THEY DIDN'T.
ELECTRICITY is, perhaps, the most important of those amenities requested because it affects everyone's life every minute of everyday. The SLPP never listened.
Ernest Koroma seemed to have heard the call. He is now showing a great deal of interest in fulfilling that need. He is, sort of, on tour inspecting and checking out the power stations around the country. His effort alone is a sign of hope. Some of us preached the choir of providing the
If the APC is able to provide the basic necessities for the country during their first term, do you think they will get the amount of criticism that was levied against the SLPP which virtually undermined their ability to stay in power?
I think that if they fulfil these basic needs, there will be little room for criticism. They might be formidable and poised to win another term.
His effort alone is a sign of hope. Some of us preached the choir of providing the basic necessities for the masses to the SLPP government all through its term and all they did was give it deaf ears and bring in a two-week long Moroccan ab(used) generators that lasted 2 weeks, if that long. Then all of a sudden, thieves stole the live wires of the poles.
I tell you what, if the APC is able to provide the basic necessities for the country, do you think they will get the amount of criticism like the one that help bring down the SLPP government?
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: UK5
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Date Posted: 15:46:08 10/11/07 ()
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If I should add a few lines to this piece, the areas of development that could score seriously eye-catching grade points for a ruling government in Sierra Leone are very easy to identify. Visit the markets, talk to the majority, attend one or two civil society gatherings .... people talk about them in the open. In other words, 'Landmark' achiements have all the potentials of making a party formidable. It simplifies the explantory ordeal to the majority of voters come elections.
If Pa Sheki was alive, he only needs to sight Congo Cross bridge, The Siaka Stevens Stadium, the Peninsular Road etc. and challenge the SLPP to draw up their list of landmark achievements. Talk of bringing peace, that was effectively swallowed in the first tenure. Want to use that again in the second coming? The people will undercut your logic with a slang: "After all. even the rebels were tired of fighting!" Peace was imminent. Can Pa Kabbah/SLPP remain insistent on seld-rewarding accorlades! The value will be lost in the process.
You see, the issue of complacency must have been the main factor responsible for the SLPP's battering loss. They miscalulated the LEVEL of awareness among the youth. THERE IS NO MORE DECEPTIVE LAST-MINUTE ELECTION CAMPAIGN THAT WILL BE GOOD ENOUGH TO GAIN VICTORY FOR A FAILED PARTY. So far, President Koroma is on the right track taking positive steps towards the right direction. His greatest test though remains to be seen on how he handles 'renegade soldiers' in his war against corruption - His predecessor failed miserably in this regard! One slight mistake could bring down the reputation he has taken months to build. Check out Yahya jammeh in The Gambia. He has resorted to the idea of rotating ministerial positions [sometimes he fires and reinstate] just to impose his authority as the man in control.
As a mere contributor, it would be better to highlight, in a seperate posting, my opinion on what I think the APC could do to remain in power for another 20 years.
For starters, the APC might want to include in their plans for the near future the reinstating of cafeteria facilites for university students. You will simply kill them off in gratitude! Check it out!
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 18:29:15 10/11/07 ()
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You are great Maaannn! Everything you said is like coming from my second head. Let me add to yours too. I referred to what you called "landmark achievements" as "monuments of progress. Take a look at my website, especially at the article where I warnes about not forgetting SLPP' Failings as they went to vote.
Again I am not saying these things to spite SLPP, it was my party. I am saying it to make those diehards start thinking "straight" once again, like the OLD SLPP before Kabba
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Shembu
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Date Posted: 13:58:23 10/11/07 ()
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And if APC goes all the way to ensure basics like electricity and pipe borne water supply to be a constant thing in the people's lives, then they will live forever as their motto (or former motto)clearly states.
You know, it does not take much to take care of five million people given our abundant natural resources and external help available to us. All we need is a comitted leadership. This new APC administration is taking the right footing in that direction. May Allah guide the President & Co.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 14:47:18 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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This is all we have always wanted. Of course, it takes little to appease the Sierra Leonean. But my former SLPP brothers and sisters seemed to have missed that message.
Anyway the former APC motto was "NOW OR NEVER". So, either they please the people now, or else they will never again get the chance.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: KRIO
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Date Posted: 21:24:06 10/11/07 ()
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What is the new MOTTO? Forward ever, Backward never?
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 00:18:13 10/12/07 ()
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It will befitting if it so happens. What would you rather, Backward Forever, Forward Never? That should actualy be the new SLPP motto. That is, the SLPP of New Comers who displaced the Old Timers.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:29:38 10/11/07 ()
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Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
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Correct Toegondoe,you have my support.Government and leadership is all about dedication,devotion,responsibility,accountability and above all serving the people.The slpp had no agenda for the nation.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 14:53:31 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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Message:
Indeed! May God bless that nation this time around. I was staunch SLPP, now staunch PMDC but my first interest is the nation. And I don't care which government takes away the "SHAME OF OUR NATION" and fixes it. I just want to make sure that when I leave the US and go "HOME", I am not going to "Backwardness".
The last time my wife and I were home for a 6 week vacation, she started getting sick in the 3rd week. I made us leave right away because I could not trust the medical facilities over there.
I tell you, my brother, I will admit that I have been ashamed of the backward seat our nation had been permanently relegated to since 1967.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 15:29:45 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
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I could not agree with you more toe, Like you I parted company with the SLPP because I was convinced that the party had lost direction and with no serious plan to solve the country's problem. I visit Salone often and I am under enormous pressure overhear to provide all sorts of help including financial to our numerous relatives who cannot accessed basic amenities. With the new government in place, let us hope and pray that our people will see improvement in their lives. That was what we asked for.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 18:31:03 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Say it again, my brother
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: BROTHER
To: All
Date Posted: 15:47:08 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: brother@aol.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
YOU STAND WITH YOUR PARTY AND TRY BY EVERY MEANS NECESSARY TO EFFECT CHANGE. SLPP SUPPORTERS SHOULD TAKE A LEAF FROM THE APC BOOK. WHEN APC FELL, ITS SUPPORTERS STAYED ONBOARD UNTIL THEY BROUGHT IT BACK TO POWER BY HOOK OR CROOK OR WITH THE HELP OF A FORMER ST. JOSEPH SECONDARY SCHOOL MAKENI PRICIPAL.
REMEMBER I DO NOT BELONG TO ANY POLITICAL PARTY.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 18:34:17 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Your strategy is well understood. My own way was to make SLPP pay before they could understand. Because they had become too confident and too cocky. Believe me, my brother, if they would have been voted back in, they would have become more than arrogant, they would have bcome virtual dictators.
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: law
To: All
Date Posted: 18:05:54 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: lawlawde80@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-71-233-101-152.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 71.233.101.152
Message:
FROM ALL THE FUNNY BUT INTERESTING POSTS RELATIVE TO THE TOPIC ABOVE, I RESPECT YOUR STANCE "BROTHER". IF Y'ALL WHO HAVE MADE COMMENTS ABOVE SLPP'S SHORT FALLS WHERE TRUE TRUE PATRIOTS OF THE PARTY, THEN YA SHOULD HAVE STAYED TO INFLUENCE A CHANCE WITHIN THE RANKS AND FILES OF THE PARTY. WITHIN THE UNITED STATES THAT WE ALL LIVE, YOU CAN PROVE ME RIGHT THAT NO MATTER HOW BAD A POLITICAL PARTY LEADER PERFORMS THE MEMBERS WILL ONLY CRITIZE BUT NOT RUN AWAY LIKE POLITICAL PROSTITUTES TO SEEK REFUGE OR RECOGNITION SOME WHERE ELSE. THIS PROSTITUTIONAL CONCEPT AND SELFISH ATTITUDE IS WHAT IS KILLING SIERRA LEONE POLITICS. WE DO RECOGNIZE THE PROBLEMS WITHIN SLPP AND ARE ON COURSE TO BRING A COMPLETE CHANGE TO ITS IMAGE. IF U SEE YOUR SELF AS A TRUE SOLDIER OF THE PARTY THEN COME JOIN THE BANDWAGON OTHERWISE JUST STAY IN YOUR LANE AND FIND SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT AT THIS APC FORUM PLEASE
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 15:38:39 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
The SLPP is intolerant to desent, they are master at marginalisation, they do not like their own kind or empower their support base. They like sycophants and flaterers. They attacked their own pedigrees. They did that in 1967 with Kai-Samba and they lost power. They did it with Charles Margai in 2007 and they lost. They are arrogant and lacks the ability to reconcile factions, but believe in elimination.
The APC was seriously divided but koroma ensured that he got all his most adamant opponents on board before he faced the electrorate.
Many of us left the party on sound logical reasons. We did not leave to join the party in government or the winning team like Dr Banya etc, so it is quite wrong to refer to us as political prostitute. I can assure you that the current crops of people who now parades as the SLPP will not win a national election in Sierra Leone. Many of these guys had formed political party of their own and abandoned it to hijacked the leadership of the SLPP when it became clear that their party would not win.
Kabba clearly had problem with historical names in the SLPP and he did everything to undermined them. But Margai showed that he is of substance. I would advise you to direct your anger at Kabba for the SLPP defeat. We did warned. Next time do not wait until your leader take you to the dust bin, you bin him first if he become an electoral liability. Lotta
Subject: Re: APC Is Gunning To Be Formidable In 2012
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 18:48:44 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
My brother, you are talking about political parties that reason. The SLPP lost the capability to reason:
1. Why didn't they do the smallest things the people needed, such as what Koroma is not trying to go in less than a month?
2. Why did they allow ONE MAN (Kabba), to hijack all the parties' principles, aspirations, ideals and character?
3. Where were they when they allowed Kabba to impose an unpopular man like Berewa and an unpopular running mate like Momodu upon the party? Why didn't they protest or rejetc them outright?
4. WHERE WERE THE REST OF THE SLPP WHEN THEY SAW THEIR PARTY BEING HIJACKED BY 1 MAN AND YET DID NOTHING?
DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT STAYING IN IT WOULD HAVE MADE THE DIFFERENCE WHEN NONE OF US WAS MORE POWERFUL THAN KABBA? NO!!!
HE CONTROLLED EVERYTHING INCLUDING BEREWA HIMSELF. AND THESE WERE THE TWO MOST POWERFUL MEN AT THE TOP OF THE PARTY.
WHAT DIFFERENECE WOULD EMPTY VESSELS LIKE US (SIMPLY TALKING IN THE MEDIA), HAVE MADE TO THEM IN THE SLPP?...N-O-T-H-I-N-G !!! brother, NOTHING! The whole SLPP was under the spell of Kabba, and he was not for the good of the party.
That's why some of us had to take another option to effect change. Otherwise that change would have never come as long as Kabba and his cronies controlled the party. Be real, brother! It's only now that they are even realizing that Kabba was no good for SLPP...AFTER THE FACT!
Subject: Dr.Curtis Thomas, we are missing you
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 12:19:14 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
Where are you ? Please touch base. We love you.
Subject: Re: Dr.Curtis Thomas, we are missing you
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 13:05:17 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
You need to beg me to comeback.
Subject: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 11:28:46 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ln1-66-86or981.gsu.edu at 131.96.89.195
Message:
I have noticed that a saber-swinging war is going on between some intellectual camps determined to prove their mastery of the Queen’s English. Unfortunately, Cocorioko is not the only theater of this Shakespearean battle of wits. I read an entire literature of attacks and counter-attacks on the SLPP forum between some literary gladiators and Brother John Mannah. The war on the SLPP was essentially fought to reveal the {grammatical} chink in John Mannah’s armor. Unfortunately for this man, he kept attacking the academic ability of other contributors just when his postings were begging for grammatical beautification. This brother alienated me after posting a message in which he derided Cocorioko as the safest place for imbeciles. Of course, that was his opinion, and he is entitled to the falsity therein.
Can we fight a slightly different war? How many Sierra Leoneans on this forum can speak more than three languages in our beloved republic? I am throwing down the gauntlet, and I want it to be picked up by a Sierra Leonean linguist. Let me reveal a secret about myself. I can FLUENTLY speak Temne, Fullah, Mende and Kissi. Let us bury the grammatical hatchet by literally fighting a war with Sierra Leonean tongues. Those who can speak Temne, Mende, Fullah and Kissi AT THE SAME TIME, are invited to this linguistic duel.
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 11:39:34 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Bra! Do you have KRIO as part of what you are asking for? Just a question since KRIO is spoken by over 70% of our people.
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: Gladiator
To: All
Date Posted: 11:58:16 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Hey Enviable, I can speak Krio (yes, KRIO, that is a language in Salone), Fula and Themene (notice, I don't say, Temne like the John Bull do).
I can speak some Mende (from my Bo School days), but unfotunately, not fluently (but I speak French flurntly) -- Mende mi a mua baye? LOL
So, waht do you want us to do to fight this salone language battle?
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 12:38:51 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.143
Message:
Oh my God, Enviable, you just exposed me as a linguistic fraud! Although I can do gymnastics in English, I just realize that I am an illiterate when it comes to our native languages. There really is no excuse. Apart from Temne and Krio, I can't speak a lick of the other languages. What is really unforgivable is that I was in Bo School for seven years and dated some very lovely Mende damsels. In fact my first girl friend, in Form One, is Mende. I know some of the sweet bedroom endearments and the words for " Let's eat!" That's something you need to know in every language to survive.
I guess I'm gonna try harder to learn some of these beautiful languages again. Thanks for the kick in the pants!
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 18:10:54 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Mammy Blessing, you've got the brains. You can learn and comprehend any language in this world. With determination, you can. Just take am diyeh diyeh. As they say in Temne, "Yor Ki-Tehgbeh." {Take am easy}.
Peace out, Bra
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: Sadame Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 14:38:11 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
This is very interesting. The last time I check, I saw all mende boys on this forum. it is now beginning to be infested by all Themne boys. Go to work i say and feed you people.
I can speak all the languages in Sierra Leone depending on what time of the day. I am a true Sierra Leonean. Watch out 1012.
Subject: Re: Unu Forget Bort John Bull. WHO CAN FIGHT THIS WAR WITH ME?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 13:11:38 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
I speak mende, temne and krio fluently. I also partially speak limba,fullah,and LOKOH. My Moyamba-Junction connection.
Subject: Sister Needs Help
From: Casca
To: All
Date Posted: 10:55:54 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 134.113.7.99
Message:
Dear Family & Friends,
On Sunday, October 21, 2007 I will be walking in the National Kidney Foundation’s annual Kidney Walk at the South Street Seaport in New York City, to raise awareness and funds to fight kidney disease and to increase the availability of all organs for transplantation.
While I have made an initial donation, I need everyone’s support to reach my goal of raising $3,000 to benefit the programs and services of the Foundation.
These donations make possible the treatment and care that is necessary to fight kidney disease to those who cannot afford it. Without the education, newsletters and mailings that the National Kidney Foundation implements, I would not have been diagnosed. I also would not receive the care that I needed without the help of the National Kidney Foundation.
There are two ways you can support my efforts to make a difference for everyone living with kidney disease:
• You can make a tax-deductible online donation in my personal homepage at My Personal Link: https://www.kintera.org/faf/donorReg/donorPledge.asp?ievent=224345&lis=1&kntae224345=75C4AF391C9F41FF9659220C2B5DA293&supId=180594218
• You can send a check made payable to:
National Kidney Foundation serving Greater New York
30 East 33rd Street
New York, New York 10016
* if sending a check, please write my name in the memo section!
• Join my walk team, Samura Family by going to www.kidneywalk.kinter.org and participate in the activities on Sunday, October 21, 2007.
With gratitude and best wishes,
Zainab Samura
Subject: Re: Sister Needs Help
From: Nar Sabi Talk
To: All
Date Posted: 13:18:15 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: static-76-160-64-185.dsl.cavtel.net at 76.160.64.185
Message:
Please clarify or verify your URL
www.kidneywalk.kinter.org
Thank you...
Subject: Why replace the Bank Governor
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 10:39:20 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
I may be insane, read but can't comprehend, Listen but can't hear, want to talk but my mouth is full of rice, so I have to ask this stupid question and that is, Why would the present government replace the Bank Governor if he has a clean record and is willing to cooperate with them?
Subject: Re: Why replace the Bank Governor
From: Do Me Ar Do You
To: All
Date Posted: 13:08:11 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-69-20.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.69.20
Message:
Mr.Insane,
Did Steve Swarray not have a clean record and was willing to participate when he was replaced by SLPP?
C'est la vie mon amie!
Do Me Ar Do You!
Subject: Re: Why replace the Bank Governor
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:13:16 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
THE BANK GOVERNOR IS THE MAN WHO SIGNS THE CHEQUES. SO PUT YOUR MAN THERE AND YOUR FAT CHEQUES ARE SIGNED, NO PROBLEM.
Subject: Re: Why replace the Bank Governor
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 12:41:47 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.143
Message:
Maybe, his record is not that clean, Mr. Insane.
Subject: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: Kanforie Sorie Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 08:48:31 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: ksk@aol.com
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
We just can't stop loving Cocorioko because this is the place where we let our burdens go. I wonder what life could have been for some of us without the Cocorioko Forum. This place is addictive.I come here more than 20 times a day. Interestingly, other forums have been set up but none is flourishing like this forum.The SLPP and AWARENESS Forums are dead. We also can't stop loving Cocorioko because it is simply the best. Say what you will, we don't have a newspaper yet of the standard of Cocorioko. You may not like what the paper publishes but you cannot help admitting : There is yet no newspaper like Cocorioko. The paper has defeated its latest rival THE NEW PEOPLE.
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: Mr. T
To: All
Date Posted: 09:49:49 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: FofanaDonodoni@aol.com
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
Message:
Most of us love Cocorioko. However, Awareness times Forum does not tolerate the attacks", "name callings", "put downs" profanity" that goes on the Cocorioko forum. If anybody goes with any of the above to Awareness forum, your fellow "forumites" will be the one to tell you that "this is not what we debate here." They will either ignore you to talk to yourself or tell you, this is not the right place for your topic. You even need a password to post anything on that forum. Some people don't like that. We like it. It means that you have to register first and you are assigned a password. That password allows you to post. That is good. If you are not hiding behind anything, why don't you like registration and password to the forum?
At Awarenesstimes for an example, someone might bring up a topic. We will all debate it and suggest solutions to the problem or issue facing the country. When we feel that we have had enough debate, we have a "forumite" that will look at all the good points, summarize it and post the summary for anybody to read. That is what we do. The next thing we are thinking of is to post or email our summaries to other media outlets in and out of the country. So Awareness time forum is alive. We have covered topic such as the trash problem in Freetown, Corruption, and Electricity problem. We came up with some solutions and the summaries are there. Check it out if you want.
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:55:46 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Why are u hiding here? Are u MR T on Awareness? Tell us ur name.
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: Minie
To: All
Date Posted: 09:55:57 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
No thank you. I will stay with the best forum -- Cocorioko.
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: AFANGAMA
To: All
Date Posted: 10:24:07 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: sokoroma@hotmail.com
Entered From: lgrt-122.dhcp.umass.edu at 128.119.230.122
Message:
Me too, NO! I don't like that stupid censorship. The Cocorioko forum is fun ! It's like eating the food you like. If you don't know, COCORIOKO IS THERAPEUTIC: IT SOOTHS THE SOUL; IT MAKES YOU LAUGH AND FORGET ABOUT MANY DISTURBING THINGS. The pseudonymes such as SUBANALIE, TALANGBA, ARIOYOGBO, etc are funny. You don't like fun and freedom ? Well, go to hell and kiss the fire!! We are going to Cocorioko forum !!
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 09:29:06 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.143
Message:
By the way, is the New People still publishing? I thought it has gone the way of the dinosaurs. I am still a fan of the trite wisdom: "You mess with the best, you die like the rest!"
Go Cocorioko! By the way I absolutely support the renaming of Abacha Street as Christiana Thorpe Avenue. I know some opposition supporters are gonna howl with resentment and anger, but fellas, you will appreciate this lady when you it is your turn to win a fair vote and the laws are enforced to protect your ballots.
Subject: Re: Why we love Cocorioko..She's simply the best
From: MC Hammer
To: All
Date Posted: 11:03:00 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 164.82.144.3
Message:
It goes to show you have a mindset of an idiot. Even though I'm a Cocorioko fan, I still check out what's going on other forums. Your response shows that you are some kind of tribalist comfortable only in the Cocorioko box. There is a saying that 'liquids find their level'. May be this is your level and you are afraid to check other forums because the calibre and language of the participants is superior to yours.
Subject: Governor
From: Newsman
To: All
Date Posted: 08:38:37 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
The new Governor of Bank of Sierra Leone, will be the brilliant and astute Economist,-Sanpha Koroma.
Subject: Re: Governor
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 10:33:56 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
Is the tenure of the Central Bank governor tied to the presidential administration? One would think that this is one of the positions that should be independent of political affiliations.
Subject: Re: Governor
From: silent majority
To: All
Date Posted: 11:17:27 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 195.54.227.249
Message:
Mr KKW,
I think that you must be right about the bank Governors tenure. The same goes for other postions that should be free of political interference such as Anti corruption boss, Chief Justice and judges, NRA boss etc. These positions should not be (and i believe that they are in fact not) subject simply to the presidents pleasure.
If they are to be removed before the end of their tenure the government is bound to demonstrate that the reason for removal is lawful. This is based on the assumption that the government is committed to the rule of law that the government itself has sworn to uphold.
note: this might explain the reported intransigence of Prof Joko Smart.
Subject: Re: Governor
From: Bank
To: All
Date Posted: 09:02:40 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Sampha Koproma is neither an economist nor brilliant. Hif he becomes BSL governor he will be returning o the scene of his crime.
Subject: Re: Governor
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 09:32:01 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.143
Message:
Is Sampha Koroma the former boss of Commercial Bank?
Subject: Re: Governor
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 09:37:25 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
I thik sampha should stop forcing himself down our throats on this forum..
For the past 3 weeks.. every day we get a psot about how he is the best guy for the job at Sam Bangura building..
Spare Us Mr Koro..
You had your chance..
Subject: Palestine gets consul in Sierra Leone
From: Mohammed Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 08:07:06 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: totti23@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-166-130-119.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.166.130.119
Message:
Palestine gets consulate in Sierra Leone
Reports from diplomatic quarters intimate that the troubled Middle Eastern territory of Palestine has extended diplomatic relations to the government and people of this country. A consulate has reportedly been established for the first time in Sierra Leone by that country headed by a Sierra Leonean born Indian and reputable business magnate, Mr. Hussein Antar. This development now allows the flag of the nation of Palestine to fly high in Sierra Leone.(Awareness Times.
As a student of International Studies i do not think this is a good move by the government of Sierra Leone if it is TRUE. Though some of us sympathize with the Palestinian people but our country should not have any diplomatic relations with them because Palestine is NOT A STATE. I know there are going to be different opinions on this issue but please some of the elders on this forum are very disappointing and end up cursing or attacking people's personalities. Let us discuss the issue and give your own opinion.
Subject: Re: Palestine gets consul in Sierra Leone
From: Spoilers
To: All
Date Posted: 13:19:48 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-69-20.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.69.20
Message:
I hope this is not a ploy to outsource terrorism in our native land,considering that the late President Momoh refused to lease
Banana Island to late Yassar Arafat in the mid-eighties for similar purposes.
Oona nor cam pwell Salone again Oh!
Subject: Re: Palestine gets consul in Sierra Leone
From: Diplomat
To: All
Date Posted: 08:36:46 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
It is not Palestine, but PAKISTAN
Subject: Re: Palestine gets consul in Sierra Leone
From: Mohammed kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 10:26:05 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: totti23@hotmail.com
Entered From: mcstudent.montgomerycollege.edu at 160.253.128.7
Message:
Thank you very much Diplomat, i guess it was an error by Awareness times. TO the other gentle man asking about an Israeli Consul, that will be accepted in the International Community because Israel is a State. The treaty of WEST PHLIA in 1648 which is a cornerstone of Intl systems, clearly states that states should have relations with other recognised states. Taiwan is not an accepted state in the intl system, For example, they do not have a seat at the United Nations,furthermore, if our country establishes a relationship with Taiwan, our cordial bilateral relations with mainland China will be severely damaged, which i believe will lead to cutting off of ties between both countries.
Thank you very much gentlemen.
Subject: Re: Palestine gets consul in Sierra Leone
From: Bai bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 08:34:34 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator5987.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.181.132
Message:
So do you prefer an Israeli consul to a Palestinian one? Everybody knows that Palestine does exist but occupied by another group of people who thought that land is theirs.Why do you think such move is unwise?
What would have been your reaction had it been an Israeli consul rather than a Palestinian one?
Will you make the same objection if any country recognizes Taiwan, do business with them instead of mainland China?
Subject: Re: Palestine gets consul in Sierra Leone
From: Nar Sabi Talk
To: All
Date Posted: 08:22:19 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: static-76-160-64-185.dsl.cavtel.net at 76.160.64.185
Message:
You are quite right, this is a prematured move by our government...
Even the Palestinians are not in one political accord...
Who are we supporting...? Hammas or Fatah?
And what's this new Morality Police in the Gaza now? Why can't this political fools learn from the Talibans...
Nuff said!
Subject: EID MUBARAK! HAPPY PRAY-DAY TO ALL!!
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:34:25 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator5987.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.181.132
Message:
Wherever you are,in whatever way you celebrate and whoever you are may you recieve the blessings of the Ramadan month.This year's Ramadan and Eid are special in that two remarkable events occured which are presentiments to a brighter Salone.The counting of votes ended in Ramadan and a new regime was born in Ramadan too removing all doubts that the Eid celebration of which the WOOTHPA or WATCHNET is a component will be one to remember for a long long time.
So guys ready your gowns,rappels,'yonthongs',mukays etc. and head for the congregations in open fields and pray for your Salone on Eid day for the day of deliverance is already here!
Subject: Re: EID MUBARAK! HAPPY PRAY-DAY TO ALL!!
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 14:43:26 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.99.234.35
Message:
May the Almighty Allah accept our fasting and bless us with bountless blessings of this Holy Month of Ramadan. We pray for peace, stability and prosperity in our beloved Sierra Leone. May the Almighty shower our leadership with the blessings and wisdom required to lead and deliver our nation from the deplorable conditios of poverty and hardship. May the activities of our Muslim Du'ats thrive to revive and cure a sick society. May the corrupt, the looters and thieves in our government offices be transformed with consciencious nationalism. And to all 'clean and qualified' netters that are in position to say Ameen, may we live to witness more and more Ramadans the years to come. Ameen
Subject: Re: EID MUBARAK! HAPPY PRAY-DAY TO ALL!!
From: madsan
To: All
Date Posted: 09:17:07 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4355b1b5.dyn.optonline.net at 67.85.177.181
Message:
Eid Mubarak to you and all muslims worldwide.
Subject: Mosquitoes
From: Malaria
To: All
Date Posted: 06:56:51 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h247.191.213.151.ip.alltel.net at 151.213.191.247
Message:
- Friday 28 September 2007.
Dear Editor,
Kindly allow space in your news outlet for an important issue of great concern to many people in Sierra Leone and abroad. I believe public health is extremely important because a healthy nation will produce more and a sick nation will produce less. Let me start with sanitation, which has been neglected by many of our governments. May be they saw the problem and turned away from it or they saw it as unsolvable one so it must not be tampered with in any way.
It is noted that mosquitoes helped saved Sierra Leone from white domination like it happened in Rhodesia and other places, there is a medal in their honor, but these same mosquitoes are now powerful and they have taken power from the elected leaders and servants. They have become so powerful that one can hear sick people groaning everywhere in the country. It is a shame for a quest to be greeted by mosquitoes in the heart of the capital city Freetown, but this is true and it has been that way for long especially during the dry season months.
The mosquitoes are pampered and encouraged to breed everywhere especially in Freetown where sanitation is extremely poor. The brooks, bays and market yards have become the luxury places for mosquitoes, rats, flies and many deadly pests especially during the dry seasons. The odor from these places is devastating and unbearable but human beings dwell with it because it is live with it or quit. How about the sewage in the cities? Those are the worst places because the filth piles up so high that the stagnant waters in them become the swimming pools for mosquitoes, cockroaches and rats. Does it cost much to clean those places and save lives or they are left so more people will die of malaria and other diseases so the population growth will balance? I believe it will cost less and money will be saved for other purposes.
In my next article I will talk about the deadly diseases of measles, cholera, cowpox, amoeboid dysentery and sleeping sickness mostly in the provinces. I find this subject an important issue because one third of the population in the provinces are dying of diseases that are no longer major problems to eradicate if government and the people make constant efforts. It is sad because in many areas people must live with it or die; drink contaminated water from dirty wells and from rivers or die of thirst. This is the time for all concerned Sierra Leoneans to point out some problems to the government so actions will be taken to solve them.
Thank you.
Sorie M. Jawara.
Washington D.C.
O9/28/07.
Subject: Re: Mosquitoes
From: Malaria
To: All
Date Posted: 06:59:03 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h247.191.213.151.ip.alltel.net at 151.213.191.247
Message:
Link
Subject: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 05:29:14 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Welcome to the S.L.P.P. Forum
A Lesson in How to Reason -- for John Mannah
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Posted by Amidu Bayoh on October 11, 2007 at 02:56:22:
"While the articles of an interlectual like John Mannah ranks 15 among 82 articles by serious economists on socio-economic global issues, Mohamed Jalloh has never been able to write an article that can pass interlectual muster not to talk about consideration for ranking by a credible international organization." -- John Mannah
John Mannah, my advice to you is to stop disgracing yourself by constantly exposing your ignorance of English. The word "interlectual" does not exist in the English language. So, using it in an English sentence, as you did, not once, but twice in a single sentence, exposes your ignorance of English.
John Mannah, how can you claim to be an intellectual when you can't even correctly spell the word (intellectual)?
You have continued to expose yourself as an barely literate, rude, tribalistic, and malicious fraud who not only lies about his obviously poor education, but about the superior education and stellar achievements of other Sierra Leoneans like Mohamed Jalloh.
John Mannah, whether you like it or not, Mohamed Jalloh is a brilliant man. That is not by his own opinion but by the judgment of the top-notch universities in Africa and America where he studied as an undergraduate and graduate student respectively. For example, at the University of Sierra Leone, Mohamed Jalloh made history by becoming the first Sierra Leonean in the then 150-year history of Fourah Bay College to graduate with a honors degree in economics and accounting. (See the link below)
I was a fellow student of Mohamed Jalloh and it was an open secret that this was because both the Department of Economics and the Department of Accounting at Fourah Bay College had invited Mohamed Jalloh to their respective honors program based on his unprecedented academic performance as the best student in his economics and accounting classes throughout his FBC student days. The solution implemented by the two departments competing for Mohamed Jalloh resulted in Mohamed Jalloh becoming the first S/Leonean in the history of FBC to graduate with a combined honors degree in economics and accounting in 1978.
Is this the accomplished intellectual, whose many international honors include a listing in Marquis' "Who's Who in the World," as well as "Who's Who in Finance," that you -- a Washington, DC cab driver -- want to compare your general degree at FBC with, John Mannah?
Is there no limit to your illogic, John Mannah? How can you expect Mohamed Jalloh's articles, which contend that so-called credible international organizations, particularly the IMF and the World Bank, are not credible to praise those articles as passing their "interlectual muster?" Are you that retarded, John Mannah?
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Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 07:25:14 10/11/07 ()
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News, Mr Bayoh wrote this, "...an barely..". As a continual learner of the Queen's English, i believe and trust that the an and barely do not correspond. My tutor believes it should have been - 'a barely'. Let us stop this nonsense about writers syntax and grammar on the forums. We all know that we write with the minimum time we have and going over what you have written is time consuming. For time's sakes we all tdo err in what our tutors treach us.
Let us engage our ample time on more serious issues than the grammatical exactitudes of others.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Talk Sense
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Date Posted: 07:47:13 10/11/07 ()
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"Let us engage our ample time on more serious issues than the grammatical exactitudes of others."
Winstoin Kabia:
That is good advice except when the issue of grammar is made a central issue in the discussion.
That is exactly what happened when John Mannah claimed to be a superior expert in English. Let me quote for you what John Mannah wrote in ungrammatical English which, naturally, escaped his comnprehension: "You need to go learn how to construct proper English before coming to talk to superior people about education."
In that case, how can you addrress Mannah's claim to possessing "superior" knowledge of English without examining his "grammatical exactitudes?"
Talk sense, Winston Kabia.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 08:08:44 10/11/07 ()
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Why do you have to call my name when you aleready have my pen name? You will never stop!! Check this out: "...addrress Mannah's claim to possessing...". There is something wrong in this extract from your sentence. is that the correct spelling of - address?
Talk sense, you start looking at yourself before you look at others. Forget about this grammar and claim thing - if the man says he has PhD - and he masterly control the English Language - let him be - fools will die for want of wisdom. let me tell you somethign, i sometimes come down to the level of the most illiterates to understand them and they believe we are asll the same and so do i when i am with them. When I visit central europe, i go to the villages and try to push my ideas accommodating those of the indigenes. We all get on well and in our hearts we know who is who.
Talks sense, I want some constructive criticism from you now and not this about grammar and fraudulent claims.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Talk Sense
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Date Posted: 08:27:38 10/11/07 ()
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"Forget about this grammar and claim thing - if the man says he has PhD - and he masterly control the English Language - let him be ..."
Winsotn Kabia:
But John Manah's his writings prove that he does NOT have "masterly control the English Language!" That is the point you keep missing, when you say "let him be.." Would you let someone be if he has committed fraud? Of course, not (but, again, you might -- since you support a party, the SLPP, that is notorious all over the world for its massive corruption).
Here at Cocorioko, I do not let frauds be. I challenge them to produce evidence of their claim and if they fail to provide it, or if they provide immaterial or non-credible evidence, I draw the appropriate conclusion about their fraudulent claim. That is exactly the process that John Mannah should be subjected to. If he claims that he is an expert in English, when he knows he is not, then it is clear that he has committed fraud.
To you, when someone commits fraud, as Manah has done, we should "let him be." Is it not how Salone was saddled with the worst government in our country's history -- when Tejan Kabbah who had already been found guilty of committing fraud at the Ministry of Trade and banned for life from holding public office in Salone, was "let be" and allowed to go on to repeat his corruption as president of Salone for 10 years of the worst corruption in the history of Salone?
Naturally, being a SLPP supporter, the near-destruction of Salone through fraudulent the fraudulent actions of your SLPP friends and/or fellow members should not be criticized. I beg to differ. As long as John Mannah claims falsely that he is an expert in English, those criticizing him should continue doing so. That would put him on notice that there will be consequences for his words and actions in the public arena -- a lesson that Kabbah was not taught by the people of SL: And look how he, and his like-minded sidekick, Solomon Berewa, your idol, used corruption to enrich themselves and destroyed the quality of life off millions of Saloneans in the process!
Never again, as the people of Salone have spoken. Big, or small, there will be no hiding place for corrupt Saloneans, be they SLPP or friends, or otherwise.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: DO YOU
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Date Posted: 08:48:25 10/11/07 ()
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"But John Manah's his writings prove that he does NOT have "masterly control the English Language!"".
The above is your piece....The first sentence in your reply is gramatically full of CRAP..
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: YUK
To: All
Date Posted: 11:20:50 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: yu_kamara@yahoo.com
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OKAY I have been reading and having fun but let me just step in here. Talking about grammatical blunders, Mr./Miss DO YOU, next time you want to quote a sentence with a quotation in it, remember to use single quotation marks for the inner quote and double quotation marks for the outer.
It should be like this: "But John Manah's his writings prove that he does NOT have 'masterly control the English Language!'",
and not this: "But John Manah's his writings prove that he does NOT have "masterly control the English Language!"".
N
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: ark
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Date Posted: 11:37:19 10/11/07 ()
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probably an omission. Don't you think?
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Manners Maketh a Man
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Date Posted: 08:58:00 10/11/07 ()
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"The first sentence in your reply is gramatically full of CRAP.."
Actually, your sentence above is ungrammatical, but you wouldn't be expected to know that now, would you?
I advise you to read the post earlier explaining the difference between a typo and fundamental ignorance of English grammar. It it does nothing else, it might cure you of your foul language.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: crap..
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Date Posted: 09:05:08 10/11/07 ()
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But John Manah's his writings prove that he does NOT have "masterly control the English Language!"
The above should be corrected before you can correct somebody else....
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Manners Maketh a Man
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Date Posted: 09:12:20 10/11/07 ()
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Actually, you seem to have a problem even understanding what you write.
Check this out: "The above should be corrected before you can correct somebody else.... "
QUESTION: Why, then, did YOU not correct your ungrammatical sentence BEFORE correcting Talk Sense's sentence?
Can you see your failure to follow your own advice as conclusive proof that you don't understand what you write?
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Somtin Butu
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Date Posted: 09:43:34 10/11/07 ()
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Bo School Boy?
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: NO
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Date Posted: 10:30:04 10/11/07 ()
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NO!!!
Mohamed Jalloh.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Manners Maketh a Man
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Date Posted: 09:44:59 10/11/07 ()
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Yes siree!
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Belewa
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Date Posted: 09:24:14 10/11/07 ()
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"Can you see your failure to follow your own advice as conclusive proof that you don't understand what you write? -- Manners Maketh a Man
Nor men di fool SLPP batoliner. He can't even write a single sentence without making a mistake. Look at what he wrote just now, after writing nonsensical English before that -- "The above should be corrected before you can correct somebody else.... "
Is that English? Is "the above" in your sentence referring to "somebody?" What, then, is the reason for adding "else" to "somebody?" The correct sentence you should have used is:
"The above sentence should be corrected before you can correct somebody else's .... "
Pay close attention to beginning phrase and the end of the sentence that corrects your nonsensical sentence and you may yet learn how to write proper English.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: crap
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Date Posted: 09:29:56 10/11/07 ()
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keep on changing names MR IDLER mohdibo worrok.
The fact remains that your sentence is full of CRAP.
Take a look at it again: "But John Manah's his writings prove that he does NOT have "masterly control the English Language!"".
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Belewa
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Date Posted: 09:43:37 10/11/07 ()
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Please stop assassinating the English language. Your latest sentence, like the others before it, is ungrammatical.
You clearly need help to address your multiple neuroses -- tribalism, hallucinations, blindness, rudeness, obsessive-compulsive behavior and a chronic inability to write (or understand) proper English.
Unfortunately for you, I have neither the time nor the expertise to help you. Good luck on your search.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: crap
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Date Posted: 09:17:35 10/11/07 ()
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stop talking to yourself.. using different monikers is a sign of IDLENESS jalloh...get to work.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Manners Maketh a Man
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Date Posted: 09:29:06 10/11/07 ()
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stick to the issues. spare us your hallucinations. better still, get out a good dictionary and try to learn the meanings of words you use.
And don't forget to read a good primer on English grammar. It could save you from public embarrasment -- at least that resulting from poor grammar, even if not from poor manners.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: crap
To: All
Date Posted: 09:33:31 10/11/07 ()
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But John Manah's his writings prove that he does NOT have "masterly control the English Language!"
The above was your attempt to show off.
Does the sentence make any sense?
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Manners Maketh a Man
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Date Posted: 10:01:16 10/11/07 ()
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Your inability to understand English is seemingly chronic. repeating the same nonsense does not do anything other than confirm your diagnosis as a compulsive-obsessive maniac.
Is it any wonder that you are unable to write a single correct sentence in English after your first porous start? Once you are stuck in ungrammatical writing, you just stay there, repeating the same nonsense over and over again!
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Busted
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Date Posted: 11:41:13 10/11/07 ()
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You are full of S---.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Manners Maketh a Man
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Date Posted: 12:01:40 10/11/07 ()
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Manners, as we used to say in Bo, maketh a man. You should try cultivating some.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 09:43:22 10/11/07 ()
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It sure doesnt.. but lets move on..
Especially when this all started with a correction of your correction, been corrected by the correcter..
He will irritate the ficks out of you..
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 08:42:35 10/11/07 ()
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I concede and will take leave away from the game. Cheers. Was just trying to divert attention to something more serious - but my probe is not working.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Talk Sense
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Date Posted: 08:50:56 10/11/07 ()
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"Was just trying to divert attention to something more serious - but my probe is not working."
Could that be because what you are "trying to divert attention to" is in fact something that is NOT serious?
My friend, as Emmerson says, those days when SLPP tiffman dem treated Salone like farm, for all kine tiffman, are gone! Now,m we go deal wit dem SLPP tiffman dem! Fraud, theft, and other forms of corruption will be dealt with in the new Salone -- whether you or your fellow SLPP cabal members like it or not!
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Apples to Oranges
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Date Posted: 07:34:55 10/11/07 ()
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Chez, let's not confuse a typo with a fundamental ignorance of English grammar. Bayoh's typo is easily recognizable as such because of his obvious mastery of the English language in the rest of his post. That is in stark contrast to the consecutive, pervasive and clearly fundamental ignorance of English demonstrated by John Manah in his writings.
You are attempting to use a typo by Bayoh to shield John Mannah from his amply demonstrated, fundamental inability to write proper English. In short, yours is a comparison between apples and oranges. There is no comparison, as you should know.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: FBC
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Date Posted: 06:36:46 10/11/07 ()
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"For example, at the University of Sierra Leone, Mohamed Jalloh made history by becoming the first Sierra Leonean in the then 150-year history of Fourah Bay College to graduate with a honors degree in economics and accounting. (See the link below)
I was a fellow student of Mohamed Jalloh and it was an open secret that this was because both the Department of Economics and the Department of Accounting at Fourah Bay College had invited Mohamed Jalloh to their respective honors program based on his unprecedented academic performance as the best student in his economics and accounting classes throughout his FBC student days. The solution implemented by the two departments competing for Mohamed Jalloh resulted in Mohamed Jalloh becoming the first S/Leonean in the history of FBC to graduate with a combined honors degree in economics and accounting in 1978.
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news, i was one class behind Mohamed Jalloh at FBC. I can confirm that all that was said about him is true. there were only two FBC students in the honours accounting class in 1977 -- the other guy was a foreigner (i forget where he came from). There were also three other Sierra leoneans with Mohamed Jalloh in the honours economics class, including one lady, a Gambian called Mary Fowlis.
Mohamed Jalloh was the only one in the 5-person honours class in the entire Facutly of Economics and Social studies honours program that year who was enrolled in both the honours economics and honours accounting program.
Incidentally, Steve swarray, the NPRC's Governor of the Bank of Sierra leone had also been admitted in the honours economics program one year ahead of Mohamed Jalloh, his friend. He had not been invited to the honours accounting program.
As a matter of fact, the new APC minister of Finance, David Carew, who I remember was also a friend of Mohamed Jalloh at FBC, was one or two classes behind Moh'm. I do not remember if Carew became an honours accounting student, but I know that he was not invited to the honours economics class.
I hope that helps.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Correction
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Date Posted: 07:12:48 10/11/07 ()
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FBC, you made a slight mistake. Mary Fowlis was not a Sierra Leonean. I know you said that in the next sentence, but when you said also that there were three other sierra leoneans, including Mary Fowlis, you gave the impression that she was also Sierra leonean.
The rest of your info is accurate.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 09:31:03 10/11/07 ()
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Message:
Oh....wasted energy..
A beautiful thread derailed for want of.. " infinity, oblivion "..
Rotorata about who should correct who before correcting who.
What a freak show.
Subject: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC?
From: news
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Date Posted: 09:53:02 10/11/07 ()
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Candid, inded, I was looking forward to learning what these former students and now heavyweights, Mohamed jalloh, Steve Swarray, and the new finance minister, david Carew, were like at FBC.
But, alas, in ademocracy like Cocorioko, you have to allow the freaks to have their sideshow. Let's ignore the roptorata and ask people who knew these guys to tell us about them
Subject: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: The Group for Justice
To: All
Date Posted: 02:34:50 10/11/07 ()
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CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
The following information was added to the message board:
Name: The group for justice
E-Mail:
Subject: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
Body of Message:
Alpha Wurie, you were the minister of Education since Kabba took over the country. You left the UK just after you finished your PHD and you went to Sierra Leone with nothing other than your qualifications. You now own a property in the UK worth £1.5 million pounds sterling and not leones. Your family has been jetting around the world like millionaires. In fact you are a millionaire at the expense of the people of sierra Leone.
You even provide scholarship for your son to pursue further studies in the UK when so many Sierra Leoneans who deserved this assistance were not able to get. You were supposed to be the minister for all and not for your family. You drive a current registration number jeep in the UK and you even own another property in Swiss Cottage where only people with vast some of wealth can be found. That property is even worth more than that mentioned above (i.e. is the property in kent). The people of Sierra Leone are no fools even though you have taken them to be.
We now want you to do the decent thing and hand over all the wealth you stole from us. We will continue to give you this publicity until you act positively to our satisfaction. We will also get the Department of Home Office to help shop you to the sitting government in Sierra Leone. Please note that asylum will never be granted to your family because the Geneva Convetion will not protect you.
We therefore call on all Sierra Leoneans to come together and recover from Alpha all the sums stolen from us.
KABS WHAT IS YOUR VIEW ON THIS ISSUE?
Subject: let Make salone
From: Osman Daboh
To: All
Date Posted: 20:48:09 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: Daboh1@hotmail.com
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Message:
We the Sierra Leonean, We have to make the country wht do you think?, do you think usa and europe will come and make salone no we have to make it let me tell you about european the are helping making there countries, we the sierra leoneans we are damenge the country we have to stop doing bad thing to whour lovly salone pls brother and sister let come together and help make better salone. love you all, one day we will see who is the best ok. peace
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 05:53:49 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: Saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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Message:
I will be contacting my local MP to see what can be done about these criminals and will be posting the outcome on this forum. Meanwhile if there is any one out there with a legal background and or connections you will be serving your country by offering some advice as to how we can get these guys to pay back what they have stolen and also ensure that they are shipped back to Sa Leone to answer for their crimes.
lastly lets not limit this to Alpha Wurie alone lets expose every TOM, DICK, and HARRY who has stolen our county's money and think they can come to the west and enjoy it!!!!!
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Alimamy Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 18:07:59 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: deltablast@yahoo.com
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Message:
You guys are really idle! Frustration is eating into your nerves. You never did any worthwhile achievement in academia neither are you sure of your future that is why you have embarked on witch hunting!!!! You can never match wits with the likes of Alpha Wurie: Remember I don't know Wurie from Adam but I defend him because your allegations are based on a porous logical foundations. I assure you our government will not settle down for mediocre advice
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: The Group for Justice
To: All
Date Posted: 03:15:02 10/12/07 ()
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Alimamy, for your information almost all our members are equally educated with quite a number of professionals amonsgt us. Our writings show the calibre of people in our group. We do not believe in personal attack but exposing the truth.
It does not bother us whether you know Alpha or not since this will have no bearing on our articles.
Also our members are independent hence the reason why we are able to write these sort of articles.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 18:46:53 10/11/07 ()
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Are you really Alpha Wurie or a beneficiary?
If you're not, why don't you waite and see.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: badroads
To: All
Date Posted: 12:20:18 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
The man in charge of building our roads, Alhaji Kabbey is one of the biggest thief in Sierra Leone. I swear on my life that this guy has two houses I know of with underground car park in London's most expensive area. I was given the address of one of these properties by someone who was bonking his daughter. His son of 22 drives 4 wheels and he once smashed a laptop because it stalled when he was watching porno film.
When kabbey travels abroad, his children followed him and slept in very expensive hotels.
Also one of former president Kabba's henchman called fadday, if I spelt it correctly used to remit £1000- one thousand sterlings every month in a uk bank account for over three year period. The guy is a military man, also travel with Kabba. These are credible statement.
What we need to do to get these looted money back to our country is to form a committee with the view of exploring legal avenues in the diasporas UK,USAetc to mount legal suit such as in the case of former president of Zambia Fredick Chaluba and the Gabanese president who is currently facing possible court action for acquiring properties in France and elsewhere by using state funds.
Please note that there are now legal provisions in Europe to get this crooks return the stolen money back from where they stole it from. Our country need these monies urgently to help rebuild the nation. We must never relent as there is no greater service to ones nation than to stop those whose thieving and greed brought untold hardship to our people. Let's be serious with this.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Group For Justice
To: All
Date Posted: 03:41:41 10/12/07 ()
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We welcome any evidence you may have. Please forward to groupforjustice@hotmail.co.uk
Thank you.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:50:57 10/11/07 ()
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Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
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Salone Boy..
I would advice against haste or a rush to judgement.
YOu do not want your citizens arrest to turn into vigilante justice or you been charged with Assualt.
When the man HAS BEEN found guilty.. If you bracket am nah peckam.. you have the whole salone cummunities permission to 3 foot him.. and put him in a suitcase, ship tru Robert Claire and write care of:
CID, pademba rd..
Until then.. we might need to post bail for you if you acousted the Wuries or any other peaceful london resident on a London/Kent St.
Its is only when they are declared criminals or fugitives in their own country or commit a crime in Britain that the British Government can act.
Until then, if you are caught taking pictures of the mans house, or demanding the keys to his car (salone property).. it constitute harrassment or stalking..
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 15:05:34 10/11/07 ()
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Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
Me fambul dem woona cam ooh! Candid Opinion deh kill me with laff!
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 12:25:55 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac573f5.bb.sky.com at 90.197.115.245
Message:
Candid Opinion, that would be a small price to pay for my beloved country; others lost their lives when they dared speak. Besides I will not be short of volunteers to post bail for me:-) LOL
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Idris
To: All
Date Posted: 04:40:04 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 86.154.97.224
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Kabs wkat have you got to say? We know you are outspoken so let us hear your opinion.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Tonyayei
To: All
Date Posted: 03:08:00 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: dh112.public.mod.uk at 82.109.66.148
Message:
This is an excellent piece of work done by the group of justice and i want to on behalf of all well meaning Sierra Leoneans to commend you for this.
Let us put up a united front to expose these robbers, make their lives a living hell and let the UK/EU/US authorities know about their evil deeds.
I honestly believe that these robbers who deprived innocent Sierra Leoneans of a decent living and sending them to their early graves will not go unpunished. God will smite them together with their offsprings and wives or partners.
Please let us present to this forum the pictures of the cars they drive and the houses they purchased with our monies.
God bless our beloved Sierra Leone
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 03:06:53 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-134-99-113.range86-134.btcentralplus.com at 86.134.99.113
Message:
Thank you 'The group for Justice'. At last we can all come together from our little corners to fight against the injustice done to our people by the myopic government of kabba.
More pressure will see Alpha Wurie and his likes concede and give back that which belongs to the people of Sierra Leone. I sometimes wonder how these relatives of these daylight robbers feel when they are amongst us in public?
There should be a 'CLEAN YOUR HABNDS CAMPAIGN'.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: john
To: All
Date Posted: 07:42:16 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 66.23.15.6
Message:
YOU SHOULD SHUT UP AND DON'T SAY A WORD YOU DOUBLE STANDARD IDIOT.ARE YOU NOT THE ONE WHO IS SUPPORTING AND JUSTIFYNG THE RIP-OFF SCHEME OF A CROOKED LEBANESE MAN LIKE WANZA,WHO BOUGHT A ROTTEN SO CALLED FAST BOAT FOR $200,000 AND IS ASKING THE GOVERNMENT OF SIERRA LEONE TO PAY HIM $5,500.000 FOR IT.SHAME.....SHAME YOU EVEN ATTACKED SOMEBODY IN THE FORUM WHO WAS CRITIZING THE DEAL.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 08:38:47 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-132-10-236.range86-132.btcentralplus.com at 86.132.10.236
Message:
You still do not know all the facts - Wanza also supplied a gun boat helicopter and other equipment. I will not descend to your level of telling me to 'SHUT UP' - I will rather use words like 'keep quiet' or something more tactful. John, it is not what a man eats that defines a man but what comes out of the man's mouth. On Wanza, let us give the community court the chance to explore the validity of his claim.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Pharisee
To: All
Date Posted: 08:46:04 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"John, it is not what a man eats that defines a man but what comes out of the man's mouth."
Is this the same Chez who said we should ignore "comes out of [his fellow SLPP member, John Mannah's] mouth?"
Chez, it is clear, as John said, that you are guilty of using double standards -- one for your fellow SLPP members and another for the rest of Sierra Leoneans. That is a shame for a man who claims to have the interest of Sierra Leone at heart.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 09:23:11 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-132-10-236.range86-132.btcentralplus.com at 86.132.10.236
Message:
You misconstrue my statement in respect of John mannah's matter. See my posting to talk sense above:
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Posted by Chez Winakabs Europe on October 11, 2007 at 08:42:35:
In Reply to: Re: IS THIS TRUE ABOUT MOH'M JALLOH AT FBC? posted by Talk Sense on October 11, 2007 at 08:27:38:
I concede and will take leave away from the game. Cheers. Was just trying to divert attention to something more serious - but my probe is not working.
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No one is born perfect - I would love to be a perfect being but alas! I am human - but I try not to get too involved in this sort of 'standards talk' it carries ther undertones of a pull down syndrome.
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Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Pharisee
To: All
Date Posted: 09:57:39 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
You should read Talk Sense's reply. When someone claims to be superior in English, what is wrong with asking him to prove it through his writings
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 05:02:10 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Thank you, Justice Group, for initiating this idea of exposing the corrupt ones who have misused their government positions for personal enrichment. This should not just be limited to Alpha Wurie, but to all corrupt bureaucrats at home and abroad, everywhere. Let's make this sort of banditry a very expensive proposition for the perpetrators and what better place for exposing these economic crimes than the FORUM OF PATRIOTS, right here at Cocorioko.
Also, let's be proactive with the current crop of politicians and bureaucratic heads of the new govt. If we suspect even a wisp of financial scandal, we owe it to the country to expose it before it's too late. This is not a partisan issue and I hope people will treat it seriously. I don't want the clowns amongst us to start making scurillous defamatory and uncorroborated attacks just to get back at perceived enemies. This will lay to tatters the credibility of the effort and end up being a disservice to an otherwise noble effort.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 17:49:38 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
"I don't want the clowns amongst us to start making scurillous defamatory and uncorroborated attacks just to get back at perceived enemies. This will lay to tatters the credibility of the effort and end up being a disservice to an otherwise noble effort".
Mammy Blessing:
I think it is already too late. Just about everything I have read on this forum with respect to "alleged" theft or embezzlement by both named and unnamed officials can be encapsulated by your statement above. Let us not kid ourselves; we are not the loyal patriots we are making ourselves out to be; all of this noisy agitation and senseless mouthing of harsh words serves no useful purpose for our country.
I hate to say this, but what I have observed here on this issue only succeeds in reminding me that we are indeed a sad, if not cursed people. Several years ago, I read an account from the mid-18th century that reached the same conclusion about Sierra Leoneans, and declared the then-Sierra Leone a hell on earth. How unfair, I thought, at the time. Now I know better.
Fellow citizens, every day I visit this forum, I find ample evidence to confirm why I have lost faith in the ability of most of us to do what I would refer to as "the right thing;" that is, those things that are neither acts that are prescribed by law or force nor acts that we truly undertake out of "free will". Rather, these are the things one does solely because it is proper or right to do so (namely, actions taken on account of manners). For those of you who attended Bo School, this is what is meant by the motto "Manners Makyth Man" (at least, as envisioned by Bishop Wyekham, who made this motto famous).
It is encouraging, however, Mammy Blessing that you have spoken out against engaging in bad manners (in the context that I have discussed it above). But, as I have said, most of us simply cannot help ourselves when it comes to doing what is right. I only pray that God can help us from ourselves.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 18:22:08 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.240.205.30
Message:
I'm sorry to say that all you've said amounted to complete BULLSHIT.
If you don't want to get onboard on what well meaning Sierra Leoneans are trying to do perhaps you're a beneficiary of those embbezled funds, then keep off.
You have lost faith in your country so go away and don't try to be enemy of progress. All the people who had shown great interest in this issue, did so with caution and not trying to employ vigilante tactics as you perceived all they're pursuing is, ways and means of reclaiming back what is rightfully belong to our country just for hypocrites like to bombard them with your lack of national interest and understanding.
So my advice is, if you can't contribute meaningful ways of reclaiming back what belongs to us, then don't be an obstacle.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 08:43:10 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Eddie Grant:
You should try to emulate Mammy Blessing. Your foul-mouthed outburst and attitude were precisely what he spoke against. But first calm down and familiarize yourself with the motto: Manners Makyth Man". If you cannot engage your perceived opponents in a civil and meaningful way, then I am afraid that you are the obstacle (to the cause you so cavalierly discredit with you kuss kuss and unnecessary rage).
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 09:30:05 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.242.28
Message:
I don't see any rage or kuss kuss in my posting rather expressions of disappointment in your attempts to defame others who see it fit to expose those they beleive to be involved in mis-appropriation of our national institutions.
Anyway, the world is full of different creatures, some good and some bad, there's nothing one can do to change that. That good creatures are those who fights for freedom and faireness while the bad ones are those who,s thoughts are bent in vilyfying others when things are about to turn infavour of the deprived.
I will without hesitation include you in the category of the bad creatures for the following reason:
1. People like you who may have benefited in depriving others will never see any good in equal opportunity for all.
2. Once people like you are bent on taking what doesn't belong to you, you'll never feel any remorse even when your actions clearly sends others into their early deaths.
Your dissappointing statements of trying very hard to generalise all Sierra Leoneans as non-peaceful citizens speakes volume of your character.
I don't have enough time to waste with you.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:25:22 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Eddie Grant:
Obviously I am wasting my time trying to engage you in a civil or fruitful discussion. You post two epistles replete with wanton and unsubstantiated accusations, personal insults, and foul language-- and you have the audacity to talk about character.
Bra, you nor lek Salone pass me. Simmer down, and maybe we can all figure out how best to help her move forward.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: John troway palmine
To: All
Date Posted: 02:42:49 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 224-64-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.64.224
Message:
This is a brilliant exercise to fish out the bad seeds! I wholeheartedly support this move. This needs to be circulated around and photos of the said houses, Alpha Wurie owns in the UK must be published. Alpha Wurie and his wife know how to reap from the poor. Their laboratoty at Charlotte Street is so expensive that many people die because they cannot pay to test their stool, urine or blood there.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Alimamy Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 05:06:15 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: deltablast@yahoo.com
Entered From: e178096177.adsl.alicedsl.de at 85.178.96.177
Message:
Eventhough Alpha Wurie did not give me scholarship while I was on my way to one of europe's most outstanding universities I have no ill-feeling against him.Thank God! I am succesfully sailing through my Ph.D programme.
But allow me for all necessary purposes to say your piece is mere witch hunting! Alpha is an industrious man! He has an educated and focused wife and had investments even before taking up office in 1996. One principal example of his ventures is RAMSEY in Freetown. For those of you who know, this is the best chemical lab in the country contracted by all high profile NGOs. I am saying that proceeds from this venture are sufficient to buy him assets abroad. But this example serves as a pointer that his family is hardworking! Additionally, he hailed from a wealthy home! Please check his background! Young man, I have been envious of Wurie but really admire him because of his profound success in life. Being envious of him does not mean I should blackmail. I know he was equally corrupt but there is no way Ernest Koroma's regime can stay corrupt. Even your so called Justice group will milk the country once given the opportunity! In all parts of the world there is corruption! yah!!!!
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 18:31:43 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.240.205.30
Message:
So what are you insenuating?
Should he go free because he had investments well before taking post? He has held a public position so will need to provide evidence of how suddenly his investment caterpulted to buying a £1.5million sterling and a lot more. We still need to prove that his current wealth has nothing to do with what he gained from his appointment as a government minister.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Alimamy Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:36:17 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: deltablast@yahoo.com
Entered From: e178096177.adsl.alicedsl.de at 85.178.96.177
Message:
I WILL KEEP DEBUNKING YOUR DETRACTIVE SUGGESTIONS AND WOULD SOON GO OVER THE AIR TO EXPRESS SERIOUSNESS OVER MY PIECE. YOU GUYS ARE UNPROGRESSIVE!!! THE COUNTRY SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AND NOT STAGNANT ON IRRELEVANT ISSUES: WE HAVE NOT SUCCEEDED POWER FROM A SINGLE DICTATORSHIP PARTY. BECAUSE OF UNDER PERFORMANCE SLPP WAS KICKED OUT! SO WE CAME TO WORK! I ASSURE YOU! THERE IS NO TIME FOR COMMISSION YAH!
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 09:40:55 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.242.28
Message:
No one is asking for your time. What I don't understand is your attempts to distract the good people from doing good work. I wonder why you can't bear to waite and see where this will lead us to. If you've nothing to worry about, then you have nothing to loose. So be quiet.
Your ranting here indicate that you're a very jittery fellow fearing that this pursuance of accountabilty might expose your evil deeds.
By the way, are you part of the decision making panel in the present government? If no, then don't worry about the government's handling of this whole thing you have no reason to judge. When all the facts have been gathered, they will be relayed to the formidable Transition Team.
Me man, just keep quiet ok!..
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Alimamy Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 05:15:11 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: deltablast@yahoo.com
Entered From: e178096246.adsl.alicedsl.de at 85.178.96.246
Message:
the transition team is not a commision of inquiry. Dont get it wrong!!!
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 16:15:30 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Eddie Grant:
But this is where you lose me. No-one is questioning your intentions/objectives (as I understand them). However, just from my reading of your last two postings, you don't seem to be practicing what you preach. You ask us not to to be prejudicial about the issue on the table, but you have already hung, drawn and quartered Alpha Wurie and, by your blanket statements,just about anyone else who happens to have served under the SLPP.
You talk about facts, but everything you have expressed about individuals, including Alpha Wurie,on this topic amounts to rank speculation and innuendo.
Man, take it easy. Sierra Leone has a system of laws and precedents to deal with criminal acts, including corruption. More importantly, it has a President who respects the parameters of those laws and precedents. Thus, he does not need Eddie to act as prosecutor,judge and jury on his behalf.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 16:54:35 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.242.28
Message:
"However, just from my reading of your last two postings, you don't seem to be practicing what you preach."
You're completely lost, what am I preaching?
Do you really understand what you read or write?
" No-one is questioning your intentions/objectives"
I'm just trying to point out inconstitencies in your crusade to vindicate those others believed to have involved in appropriating funds.
Like I said earlier, I will not gain any meaningful conversations with you so I refrain from talking to you from this point on.
Good night.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 07:09:25 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Eddie Grant:
Trying to understand you is truly exasperating. As an example I will highlight just one of your statements from above:
"I'm just trying to point out inconstitencies in your crusade to vindicate those others believed to have involved in (sic)appropriating funds".
Pray tell, what makes my responses to your prejudicial and speculative statements (such as the one I quote above) a crusade to vindicate anyone? In this one short sentence you provide ample evidence (a two-fer, as a matter of fact)of precisely what I am finding fault with-- (1) you confuse facts/evidence with rumour/speculation, and then proceed to make conclusory statements which are unsupportable; and (2)instead of letting your arguments speak for you, you engage in baseless accusations -- your standard one being if you disagree with my comments on alleged misappropriation under the SLPP, you must, ipso facto, be a beneficiary of the same.
Sorry to inform you pal, the revolution is over and you continue to shout useless slogans. You may want to listen to President Koroma's recent interview on the BBC, and you might just understand why you are only making empty noises on this issue.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 07:57:16 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-132-10-236.range86-132.btcentralplus.com at 86.132.10.236
Message:
Pa Alimamy, you are missing the point here - however enterprising someone can be takes the efforts of a privileged position to gather that which others believe Dr. Wurie has amassed.
What do you mean by -
"I know he was equally corrupt but there is no way Ernest Koroma's regime can stay corrupt".
I believe you are an educated man as no institution will accept you to commence a wisdom programme if you have not the prerequisite. Are you saying Ernest is going to be corrupt or he will not? I believe that one can amass wealth without being corrupt. Profound wisdom comes into play when such happens. i will not tell you the secrets but to help the less unfortunate attain their fullest potential is richness in itself. I just got a brand new range rover given to me by someone I helped in the last ten years who is now a very wealthy character. he thinks I shun him and get angry with me. i accepted the vehicle because it is my kind of drive. I did not ask him but he knew my taste and offered to me a £72,000.00 vehicle. i get palm oil, fish, cassava leavers and other leaves, ogiri from Sierra leone everry month as gifts. if you treat people well you will recive riches in abundance. Not all will recognise you but the few who do will make you a happy man. the reason for the personal narrative is to show you that in this life you can abstain from abusing your office and still achieve greatness tha comes with honourability and nobility with wealth added.
Let the 'Group for Justice' accelerate their efforts and i pray we all support them - I do not believe in witch hunting.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Tonyayei
To: All
Date Posted: 06:51:50 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: dh112.public.mod.uk at 82.109.66.148
Message:
Good to know that you are succesfully sailing through your Ph.D programme and truly wish you all the very best of luck. However, the proceeds from RAMSEY may be sufficient to purchase a house in the UK but not to the tune of £ 1.5 Million if this is genuinely what the house cost. I appreciate this is an affluent family but he has been the longest serving Edu. Minister and it seems to me that he must have something under his sleeve for leaving the shores of Sierra Leone unceremoniously. Mind you nobody is envious of his achievements and it is also true that he is hardworking, from a wealthy heritage of affluence and social position and has a focused wife but that mustn't excuse his thieving improprieties.
You sounded a little pessimistic in your last 2 sentences. My brother, you are in Europe and enjoying all the basic amenities which is so lacking in our sweet Sa lone because of the kind of despicable corruption. No form of corruption is justifiable and measures should be put in place to manage it. Let me give you fun: A Nigerian Minister visited the Uk and was invited over for lunch by his British counterpart at his mansion. On arrival the Nigerian Minister was so impressed by the breathtaking view and he hastened to ask how the British Minister funded the project. The Minister smiled pointing to the newly constructed channel tunnel, that project partly funded this. After the visit, the Nigerian Minister invited his counterpart back to Nigeria. On arrival the British Minister was out of breath, struggling to ask how did you fund all of this. The Nigerian laughed as though he had just won a £ 50 million Lotto, pointing to that bridge but there was no bridge. Then the British Minister asked which one? It was a project that he received money for to construct a bridge which he never even laid the foundation for and all of the money was used to fund his lavish life style depriving the nation.
Alpha Wurie is by no means the only robber in Sierra Leone and would love to expose all of them for they have done a gargantuan damage to that nation. What we are doing on this forum is a good start, so that when you point to a bridge, it will be there and doesn't matter what was personnaly gained from constructing it.
Stay well and long live the people of Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: The Proof is in the Pudding
To: All
Date Posted: 06:46:14 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
"But allow me for all necessary purposes to say your piece is mere witch hunting! Alpha is an industrious man!" -- John troway palmine
If "Alpha is an industrious man" then he should have no problem proving it to an APC commission of enquiry. What you call witch hunting, the people of Salone call ACCOUNTABILITY.
I say, let the commissions of enquiry begin now!
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 12:28:10 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
I agreed, let the investigation begin now. Those who did not steel, should not be afraid. Rightmanded people should not be intimidated by the charges of witch-hunting. We need accountability, without which there is no need for a responsible government. The people voted for accountability and the rule of law.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: The group for justice
To: All
Date Posted: 06:44:14 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-117-220.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.117.220
Message:
I challenge your assertions for the following reasons:
1. This is no witch-hunt but factual. It is evident that people would claim witch-hunt when things don’t go their way.
2. You cannot tell our members about his wife Mrs Wurie (Mammy Aye) whom they know very well even prior to her marriage to Alpha Wurrie.
3. A good proportion of our members are equally educated and successful so there is no reason for witch-hunt. In fact people like you are even given us the determination to prove to Sierra Leoneans that his wealth is not from Ramsays.
4. Alpha had it all planned by incorporating ‘Ramsay’ in order to enable them to still the wealth of Sierra Leone.
5. We have people who are ready to prove that his accumulation of wealth stems from the fact that he breached his fiduciary duties as a minister of education. So we know what we are talking about.
6. We can also tell you that given the value of the leones over the years the proceeds of that business would not have been enough for them to accumulate such wealth. We would ensure that the time the properties were purchased and Ramsay’s books of accounts be investigated as this will prove our points.
7. We challenge them to produce Ramsay’s accounts and all the documents of his properties for verification to show that such accumulation of wealth did not points to the fact that it w
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Alimamy Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 14:38:58 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: deltablast@yahoo.com
Entered From: e178096177.adsl.alicedsl.de at 85.178.96.177
Message:
SO called Group of Justice! Please be advised to concentrate on issues that are developmental now that our party is in power. Remember the APC is faced with an arduous task of propelling the nation to the epitome of development. In my view, your suggestion of a commission of inquiries would drift backward the development plans of HE the president! Let us all focus on how to forge ahead and let sleeping dogs lie. I see you are overly envious of our learned friend Alpha Wurie. By the way fiduciary duties in the context of corporate governance entails loyalty, care and disclosure. There is no way you can say he had not displayed these duties bearing in mind the enrollment rate in schools and colleges. I rather advice all well meaning Sierra Leoneans to slash your unsubstantiated claims. WE HAVE NO TIME FOR WITCH HUNTING YAH!
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: The Group for Justice
To: All
Date Posted: 02:52:35 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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"By the way fiduciary duties in the context of corporate governance entails loyalty, care and disclosure. There is no way you can say he had not displayed these duties bearing in mind the enrollment rate in schools and colleges. I rather advice all well meaning Sierra Leoneans to slash your unsubstantiated claims"
You have now changed your style of writing by suggesting that we concentrate on "issues that are developmental" instead of bringing this man to justice. Obviously we all want development and this is one way of developing the country. You also mentioned about displaying loyalty, care and disclosure but what you fail to highlight is his 'honesty' which clearly he is in breach of and this is the core of the article.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: The Group for Justice
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Date Posted: 06:47:03 10/11/07 ()
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I challenge your assertions for the following reasons:
1. This is no witch-hunt but factual. It is evident that people would claim witch-hunt when things don’t go their way.
2. You cannot tell our members about his wife Mrs Wurie (Mammy Aye) whom they know very well even prior to her marriage to Alpha Wurrie.
3. A good proportion of our members are equally educated and successful so there is no reason for witch-hunt. In fact people like you are even given us the determination to prove to Sierra Leoneans that his wealth is not from Ramsays.
4. Alpha had it all planned by incorporating ‘Ramsay’ in order to enable them to still the wealth of Sierra Leone.
5. We have people who are ready to prove that his accumulation of wealth stems from the fact that he breached his fiduciary duties as a minister of education. So we know what we are talking about.
6. We can also tell you that given the value of the leones over the years the proceeds of that business would not have been enough for them to accumulate such wealth. We would ensure that the time the properties were purchased and Ramsay’s books of accounts be investigated as this will prove our points.
7. We challenge them to produce Ramsay’s accounts and all the documents of his properties for verification to show that such accumulation of wealth did not points to the fact that it was as a result of breaching his fiduciary position as minister of education.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: Salone boy
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Date Posted: 06:16:27 10/11/07 ()
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RAMSEY IS NOT FOR THE POR. ITS CLIENTS ARE ALL FROM THE RICH. MANY PEOPLE HAVE DIED BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY THE EXORBITANT PRICE, RAMSEY IS CHARGING FOR ITS SERVICES.
AD WURIE GOT HIS MONEY FROM POLITICS. HE WAS ONCE A CHIRMAN FOR SEVERAL PARASTATTALS IN THE COUNTRY DURING THE STEVENS ERA.
TO SAY THAT ALPHA WURIE'S WEALTH IS FROM HIS HARD EARNED LABOUR, THEN YOU SHOULD EQUALLY SAY THAT THE LATE JAMIL SAHID GOT HIS MONEY THROUGH LABOUR.
IT IS ONLY POLITICS THAT HAVE MADE THE WURIES RICH. IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR THE WURIE TO AMMASSS GREAT WEALTH FROM RAMSEY AS IT OPERATES IN A DECVELOPING COUNTRIES WHERE THE INCOME OF THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE ARE MEAGRE.
ALIMAMY TURAY IT IS INAPPROPRIATE TO ADMIRE SOMEONE WHO IS A DECEIVER AND A POLITICAL THIEF.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: The Group for Justice
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Date Posted: 02:58:33 10/12/07 ()
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Well said.
Subject: Re: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: net cop
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Date Posted: 16:15:33 10/11/07 ()
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I think people need to start posting credible evidence on here. we just make these accusations about people on here. if there is credible evidence that alpha wurie or any politician in salone alive from the start of th ecountry stole form the peoples stashes and they stay here i would be the first to make few phone calls to congress. i am anindependent thinker. not apc or slpp. not republican o rdemocrat neither am i labor or conservative. but i belive in justice as long as the facts and the proof is there.
Subject: Log-in Name: Bai Bureh
From: UK5
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Date Posted: 01:58:43 10/11/07 ()
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Please send me an e-mail. If not, you can send me your phone number. Need to contact you in person.
Subject: Re: Log-in Name: Bai Bureh
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 04:02:15 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Ha ha ha! So we have finally found each other out! It is a small world out here.Anyway I hope there are no hard feelings.I knew it was you from day one of your coming to this forum. For me, before I send you the info you requested, let me give you clues so as to help you guess who am I.
1)Calabatown
2)Reggae music
3)Indian movies-Fave hero in those days Amitabh and now Shahrukh Khan
4)Brewah connection
5)Kissy
6)Late Abdul 'coward' connection
7)Temne and muslim
Put these pieces together and make your first guess.
Subject: Re: Log-in Name: Bai Bureh
From: UK5
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Date Posted: 05:15:46 10/11/07 ()
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Know what! I am now in the office with so much work to do, but I just can't think straight. Yet, I know you should be just too close. You must have left out the 'James Hardley Chase' connection. Hi, what can I do? Can't spell out your name in the net, can I. I can risk giving you my e-mail or phone number? Just want to clear this thing out. Sorry man, I heard Abdul die while performing operation. His name lately was Jah Pro! Come on Man! Been so thirsty to jam with original Calaba Town man, just wish you can give it to me straight!
Subject: Re: Log-in Name: Bai Bureh
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 06:57:28 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Yeah you are damn right, the James Hadley Chase connection which I left out deliberately so as not to make myself just another sucker by selling out to you! I don't want you to think I have a soft centre! Man so you are still alive! Thanks to Allah! I beleive we last saw each other in 1992 or so at my former place in Kissy.
You can reach me at
ishfa2000@yahoo.com. I am waiting as I am online doing some work too.I am also so excited to interact once again with an old Calabatonian colleague.
Subject: Re: Log-in Name: Bai Bureh
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 08:53:00 10/11/07 ()
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Ok.. you 2 kabala town pansies can go kiss and make up offline..
What sappyness, this early in the morning.. almost amke me want to reach for snuff..
Subject: Koroma's Sierra Leone: Rising to a Generation of National Ch
From: Kenday S. Kamara
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Date Posted: 01:23:27 10/11/07 ()
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The corruption threat is the defining challenge of President Ernest Bai Koroma's Sierra Leone and is indicative of a range of national realities. It is proverbial to the point of cliché to talk about how much Sierra Leone has been destroyed by customary corruption. Koroma made a dramatic swearing-in vow "to adopt zero tolerance on corruption, after officials declared him the winner of a tense run-off election" (www.wtopnews.com) and it is hoped he is going to take action to follow through with that vow. With the tools of national power Koroma has, what is interesting is not how difficult it could be a challenge for him to address corruption but to what lengths he could use his power and influence to confront corruption.
>>> Read entire article at www.worldpress.org
Subject: Re: Koroma's Sierra Leone: Rising to a Generation of National Ch
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 02:00:18 10/11/07 ()
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For those who may experinece some difficulty in downloading Kenday S. Kamara uprising modern management consultant and an emerging specialist in leadership and organizational change:
Sierra Leone: Under NEW leadership/ Management - by Kenday S. Kamara!
http://www.worldpress.org/Africa/2957.cfm
Koroma's Sierra Leone: Rising to a Generation of National Challenges
Kenday S. Kamara, October 10, 2007
Newly elected Sierra Leonean President Ernest Bai Koroma (left) shakes hands with outgoing leader Ahmad Tejan Kabbah on Sept. 17 in Freetown. (Photo: STR / AFP-Getty Images)
Under New Leadership
Over five years after the civil war officially ended, Sierra Leone is as underdeveloped and corrupted as it has been at any point in the last 40 years. But with the new leadership of the democratically elected President Ernest Bai Koroma, Sierra Leoneans and the international community see the dawn of a new beginning for the country.
As the people resoundingly confirmed Koroma as president, Koroma pledged a "zero-tolerance" strategy against corruption—a pledge seen as a marvelous source of confidence and reassurance concerning the future. The European Union's foreign policy chief, Javier Solana, praised the peaceful manner the elections were conducted, assuring continuing EU support for the war-weary West African country. In a press statement, United States government spokesperson Sean McCormark also congratulated the people of Sierra Leone, "the Independent National Electoral Commission, led by Christiana Thorpe, and Sierra Leone's security services for their impartial efforts to ensure that the people could vote free from intimidation in a transparent and fair process" (www.state.gov). On her reaction to the election results, Yasmin Jusu-Sheriff, first vice president of the Mano River Women's Peace Movement, told Voice of America English to Africa Service reporter Joe De Capua "that the elections have brought a renewed sense of hope … [as] everybody in the country was looking forward to a fresh start" (www.voanews.com).
Koroma now has to get to work immediately to begin crafting legislation specifically designed to establish his zero-tolerance strategy against corruption. And as he gets to work, he has to recognize that any successful policy against corruption must be grounded in reality and that much of any government's approach against corruption stems from treating corruption as a treasonable felony against the people that should be dealt with the full penalty of the law governing treasonable offenses.
The dawn of this new era is testimony to the truth that the people who have had increasing doubts about the country's direction under the previous regime of former President Tejan Kabbah and the country's continual underdevelopment and "misuse of aid money" (www.ft.com) after many years the war ended is the one thing that emboldened Sierra Leoneans to vote out the Sierra Leone People's Party (S.L.P.P.). Sierra Leoneans are convinced the country needs new thinking on national development policy and a zero-tolerance strategy that can address corruption and its damaging effects—not around a particular political camp or tribal sympathies but around a shared understanding of how to meet a generation of challenges.
A Generation's Legacy of Heroism
Sierra Leone's challenges today are daunting. They include a generation of widespread corruption, a bungling and incompetent civil service, and partisan political networks made even more menacing by the threat of ethnic confrontations. AIDS and potential new pandemics also threaten the people. It is easy to understand why Sierra Leoneans feel so much emboldened and wound up to reject the S.L.P.P. and former Vice President Solomon Berewa, who squandered gained opportunities following the end of the country's brutal conflict.
Yet although Sierra Leone faces fundamentally different issues today, it has a history of rising to meet even greater challenges. Indeed, Sierra Leoneans need not look to ancient history, but only to the courage and determination of great heroes like Bai Bureh, Alimamy Suluku, Haidara Kontorfilli, Isaac T. A. Wallace-Johnson, Constance Agatha Cummings-John, Eustace Taylor-Cummings, Sir Milton Margai, among others, to see a stark contrast with the irresponsible and catastrophic leadership that defined the stewardship of Kabbah and Berewa. Just over 100 years ago, Sierra Leone was a colony under the British Empire. The outcome of this status was clear. It took away the dignity of all Sierra Leoneans and the country's natural resources were systematically converted to British use.
As such, Bai Bureh resisted the house tax because "he did not believe the Sierra Leonean people had a duty to pay taxes to foreigners, and he wanted all British to return to Britain and let the Sierra Leoneans solve their own problems" (en.wikipedia.org). Alimamy Suluku, the great Limba leader, managed to have his way against the British occupiers in the 1890's through political strategy alone, thus maintaining a thriving Limba territory. Haidara Kontorfilli's charisma as an Islamic religious reformer and an anti-colonialist fed well into the cause of the rural masses. Isaac T. A. Wallace-Johnson's ardent patriotism got him to work untiringly for unity and the rights of the common man. Constance Agatha Cummings-John's " strong commitment to the ideals of justice and fair play [inspired] her active participation in the political struggle for national emancipation" (www.sierra-leone.org). Notable also, was Eustace Taylor-Cummings' "contribution to the medical service as a doctor, to civic duties as mayor, and to fostering education in Sierra Leone" (www.sierra-leone.org). As well, Sir Milton Margai pioneered social welfare and hygiene education in remote areas in the Colonial Medical Service and demonstrated exceptional leadership as Sierra Leone's first prime minister.
And it was not just these great heroes who were decisive. In the 1950's, Sierra Leoneans enlisted to work to build roads, schools, and hospitals. Together with the leaders of the new independent Sierra Leone, they built this country's prosperity in the early 1960's and fueled a sense of optimism. Although this period of prosperity was short-lived because upon the death of Prime Minister Milton Margai subsequent governments pursued policies that led the country to an economic impoverishment that matched their moral vacuum, the new leadership of Koroma and the people can draw strength from the great accomplishments of these great heroes to rebuild their country.
A Generation of Challenges
Today, the nation's attention is focused on corruption. All Sierra Leoneans want to see decisive steps taken to end corruption. But using band-aid measures as those presented by a politically predisposed Anticorruption Commission under Kabbah have only presented graver risks to Sierra Leone's sustained development. The persistence of corruption in government and the private sector has continued to wreck the nation. Government corruption has condoned the inefficiency of civil servants. A national disaster could again ensue, perhaps even causing another civil war under far worse circumstances if nothing is seriously done by Koroma's leadership to address this issue of corruption. While there is no guarantee that the new zero-tolerance strategy proclaimed by Koroma himself will be seriously pursued, the fact remains that the stakes are too high and the potential fallout too great to have another president in this war-weary country being soft on corruption and being flexible with a lazy, corrupt, and inefficient civil service that does not do its work.
Many Sierra Leoneans still fail to understand fully the extent of the damaging consequences of corruption, specifically by those public officials who are doing things that deprive the nation and communities of essential services and the progressive development of Sierra Leone. Understandably, the nation tends to shy away from using capital punishment for corruption crimes. People think in terms of the death penalty being seen as "the ultimate cruel, inhuman, and degrading punishment. It violates the right to life. It is irrevocable and can be inflicted on the innocent. It has never been shown to deter crime more effectively than other punishments" (web.amnesty.org). Yet, corruption crimes are catastrophic and are causing the deaths of thousands of Sierra Leoneans, including pregnant women and children, who are starving and are deprived of well-equipped hospitals and good roads and dependable means of land and water transportation. Corruption crimes are more catastrophic than the actions of soldiers such as Brig. Hassan Conteh, Maj. Kula Samba, and Col. Abdul Karim Sesay, who were condemned to die because they served in the junta government of Lt. Col. Johnny Paul Koroma. Unconscionable corruption has one goal: to institutionalize corruption where only the very few would continue to thrive while destroying Sierra Leone as a nation and rather have the majority of the people live in abject poverty. This plan sounds grossly selfish and treasonable, and it is. But it is no more irrational than the policies pursued by Corporal Sankoh's R.U.F. war machine in the 1990's, and Captain Strasser's military overthrow of President Joseph Momoh's regime in April 1994, and Lieutenant Colonel Koroma's junta rule in 1997. And the threat corruption poses against the survival of Sierra Leone as a nation is just as real.
In the current state of affairs in Sierra Leone, the balance of forces is not nearly as close as during Corporal Sankoh's blitz and at the critical points during Captain Strasser and Lieutenant Colonel Koroma's military coups. There is no comparison between the presidential power and influence of the democratically elected Ernest Bai Koroma today and those of the corrupt officials that threaten the survivability of the nation. Perhaps most important is the incredible patience of the people and their unmatched resilience to suffer pain as keenly depicted in Emerson's "Borbor Pain" track in his 2-Foot Arata album that now needs to be appreciated. Today's corruption damages are fundamentally different from those Sierra Leoneans grew used to confronting during Corporal Sankoh, Captain Strasser and Lieutenant Colonel Koroma's onslaughts. Corruption destroys the very essence of nationhood. Corruption systematically distorts the national character reinforcing the stunted development of Sierra Leone. Hospitals and schools are rendered ill equipped and desolate not by rocket-propelled grenades but by government graft. Corrupt officials are protected instead of punished. They scramble for public office not as a strategic need to serve but as an offensive platform for illegally stealing the national assets of the people. The United Nations' secretary general, Ban Ki-moon, recently added his voice to this debate with a disapproving revelation of how much Africa is losing because of corruption stating, "Every year Africa loses $148 billion dollars because of corruption. This was reported by the United Nations Organization and the World Bank, which launched a Joint Stolen Assets Recovery Initiative (STAR) to retrieve the money illegally subtracted from the people. And according to the World Bank, corrupt politicians and administrators in poor countries pocket between $20 and $40 billion dollars; a sum equivalent to 40 percent of the funds these countries receive in aid from developed countries" (www.fides.org).
The corruption threat is the defining challenge of President Ernest Bai Koroma's Sierra Leone and is indicative of a range of national realities. It is proverbial to the point of cliché to talk about how much Sierra Leone has been destroyed by customary corruption. Koroma made a dramatic swearing-in vow "to adopt zero tolerance on corruption, after officials declared him the winner of a tense run-off election" (www.wtopnews.com) and it is hoped he is going to take action to follow through with that vow. With the tools of national power Koroma has, what is interesting is not how difficult it could be a challenge for him to address corruption but to what lengths he could use his power and influence to confront corruption. While the Anticorruption Commission (A.C.C.) is an excellent concept to deal with corruption, its actions against corrupt practices remain undesirable. Even with opportunities provided by the end of the war five years ago, the government of former President Kabbah proved dangerously irresponsible to the point of justifying the military takeover of Lieutenant Colonel Koroma in April 1997. The A.C.C. instrument against national corruption was created not only with the support of foreign development assistance but also with the support of the office of the president. The difficulties of the A.C.C., along with disturbing gaps in Kabbah's leadership, however, are well known. A growing number of experts question whether Sierra Leone has the capacity to meet various national challenges, ranging from poor performing government departments to the widespread acceptance of facilitation payments (bribes) by public officials. And while Kabbah's government has stood incapable in the face of patent corruption in his government and has been unable to address the inefficiencies of the ministries of his cabinet ministers, President Ernest Bai Koroma's vow "to adopt zero tolerance on corruption" has to be seen in actions rather than mere words. This can be possible if Koroma could be that strong president to cleverly use his tools of national power including the "certificate of emergency" leverage over parliament he referred to in an interview with Financial Times West Africa correspondent Mathew Green (www.ft.com) to extend the mandate of the Anticorruption Commission with a top leadership team of "foreign veteran legal expatriates" to establish the supreme independence of the A.C.C. with the ultimate power to investigate and prosecute crimes of corruption as treasonable offenses.
While the thorny issue of corruption dominates political rhetoric, Sierra Leoneans cannot let the resounding victory of Koroma and the new political dynamics drive them to be complacent with the new leadership to repeat mistakes previous presidents have made at perilous moments of mistrust and misgiving about their roles against working to end corruption. In several regimes in the last several decades, following the death of Prime Minister Margai and the end of the civil war in 2002, Sierra Leoneans became left out. Today, among Sierra Leone's main challenges are a broken down civil service and systemic corruption that developed while Sierra Leoneans do not seem to care anymore about what their leaders and their public servants are up to. Whether or not Koroma's zero-tolerance vow is followed through, Sierra Leoneans need to be prepared to deal not only with the great effort against corruption but with a generation of challenges that go far beyond any single leadership or regime.
The people need to engage in a candid debate about what policies and what sacrifices will ensure a zero-corruption Sierra Leone and a prospering nation. As was observed in the All People's Congress (A.P.C.) manifesto used to win the 2007 parliamentary and presidential elections, "In every nation today, the principles of transparency and accountability and the elimination of corrupt practices are generally recognized as indispensable attributes for good governance." An A.P.C. government should therefore work "to ensure the strict adherence to these principles and practices," and if it sincerely subjects itself "to an African Peer Review Mechanism (A.P.R.M.) and any other international benchmarks" as it also stated in its manifesto, the better (apcparty.org). Koroma's A.P.C. thus needs to take further action if Sierra Leone is to be cleansed of corruption and if his leadership is to build a safe nation, with peace, prosperity, freedom, and dignity. Confronting the forces of corruption will be controversial, and Koroma will be strongly resisted because it will require dramatic changes to the corruption status quo. Kabbah's S.L.P.P. has been voted out for being incompetent and inadequate, and the structure that its policies and operations were created to address are no longer supported by the mandate of the people. Koroma cannot therefore remain mired in the inept structure of the rejected S.L.P.P. administration.
Change can be convoluted in and of itself. And it is unusually hard to beckon the will necessary to set a new course in a country that has lived through generations of corrupt regimes. Look at how badly former President Siaka Steven perfected a culture of kleptocracy grounded on his famous political maxim of "oosie den tie cow nar dae ee dae eat gras," meaning by way of condoning corruption that a "cow grazes where it is tied to graze." Former President Momoh was known for "implementing policies that only served to further exacerbate Sierra Leone's economic situation" (www.britannica.com). Corruption in Kabbah's government was even reported to be on a massive scale enough to dwarf corruption in all previous governments. "Government ministers are allowed to run corrupt syndicates in their ministries with impunity the worst examples being the Minister of Lands Bobson Sesay, Minister of Agriculture Dr. Sama Mondeh, and Minister of Finance John Benjamin. They have starved the country of numerous projects by demanding huge bribes up front, by refusing to woo investors maintaining on more than one occasion that they don't invite investors or do not participate in private projects, or tell investors that the projects they plan to execute should be scaled back" (www.peepsierraleone.com).
Change will call for sacrifice from the people. And Sierra Leoneans seem ready for the challenge. "The clear message of Sierra Leoneans to the S.L.P.P. government of President Tejan Kabbah, which spent 10 years in power and have nothing to show for it, except [the personal wealth of] members of the cronies club and the corrupt ministers serving in the government" (www.peepsierraleone.com) speaks volumes about Sierra Leoneans being ready for the challenge.
Revitalizing the Military
First, to maintain a focused presidential leadership in Sierra Leone, President Koroma must immediately begin to work to revitalize the military. A disciplined and well catered for military is, more than anything, necessary to sustain peace and stability. Unfortunately, the army has made repeated attempts to disrupt the democratic process.
Koroma must use this moment both to rebuild the military and to prepare it for nation building programs. Koroma should commit to spending a sizable percent of the G.D.P. on the military. As commander in chief, Koroma must retain and/or recall to duty the very best military leaders and invest in their capacity to succeed in recruiting and training the very best servicemen and women. That also means providing the military with first-rate equipment, incentives, and more training in other critical skills. The military will have to rebuild some capabilities and transform others. Enhancing the military will not be enough. As commander-in-chief, Koroma must also use the military wisely during this peacetime engaging them with nation building programs, and having the military participate in stability and reconstruction operations.
Koroma must also consider officially dismantling the Kamajor militia, taking advantage of the peace dividend from the end of the civil war. Dismantling the Kamajor militia in order to eliminate perceived rivalry with the official national army underpins national stability.
Fixing the Energy Problem
Second, Koroma must work to fix the energy problem. This means making sure that power supplies are not rationed and the country is with power at all times. Sierra Leoneans are using about 27 percent of the energy supply to power the economy. Sierra Leone's economic strength depends on providing a regular supply of electricity to the homes and businesses of Sierra Leoneans—moving past symbolic measures to produce as much energy as Sierra Leoneans use. It should not take time to fix the energy problem. With the right resolve, Koroma's administration could quickly fix Sierra Leoneans' vulnerability to power shutoffs by a poorly managed National Power Authority. At the same time, having a sensible energy supply policy Sierra Leoneans may well be able to help reduce global warming by controlling the greenhouse gas emissions made worse by the use of imported generators known in local parlance as "Kabbah Tigers" seen everywhere in Freetown and in towns and villages.
Regular energy supplies will require technology that is not antiquated. It will also mean increasing the domestic energy production with more oil, more renewable energy sources, and a fuller exploitation of the country's hydropower by the president himself micro managing the ultimate completion of the Bumbuna Hydro project. Privatizing the National Power Authority may be required to have a motivated and capable management staff able to organize additional and alternative sources of energy. Koroma needs to pursue a pioneering energy supply initiative—an energy modernization, so to speak. It will be an initiative to provide a regular supply of electricity on a national scale. It will be good for the economy.
Making Use of Civilian Capabilities
Third, Sierra Leoneans need also to direct their civilian capabilities to contribute to building the infrastructure of their nation and uphold the rule of law and promote cooperation with their democratic leaders. Since the end of the civil conflict, Sierra Leone has created capabilities and structures—such as the Office of National Security, the National Revenue Authority, and the Institutional Reform and Capacity Building Project—to meet the challenges of a nation that has been methodically misled by false political prophets. Koroma can make better use of these structures and Sierra Leone will be better off with bureaucratic boundaries that are undermining civilian effectiveness torn down. Unity among Sierra Leone's national civilian resources is needed where clear leadership and clear line of authority will help to integrate the civilian instruments into coherent, timely, and effective operations. Efficient management of development programs is lacking. As a result, it has been difficult to coordinate the bringing of health care and schools to many areas. And guess where Corporal Sankoh got his ragtag army to wage war against the government of Momoh? Likewise, the reputation of Corporal Sankoh's R.U.F. in the early years of the war should be no surprise given that when he entered Sierra Leone through Liberia he "enjoyed the sympathy of Sierra Leonean migrant workers who have had to migrate to make a living in Liberia some of whom joined [his rebellion] to start what he described as a liberation campaign" (www.sierra-leone.org).
The culture of civilian agencies has to change. Civilian approaches have to be task-based. Joint strategies and joint operations to mobilize all areas of Sierra Leone's national resources are required. Civilian agencies should be organized along common provincial boundaries. Their performance should be evaluated according to their success in promoting sustainable development programs and building the fundamentals of democracy in their respective regions.
Contract for Prosperity and Progress
The challenges Sierra Leone now faces—especially corruption, tribalism, and the lack of development—require national networks of intelligence and law enforcement. Koroma should also look for new ways to strengthen N.G.O. cooperation and partnerships with responsible actors to confront the country's challenges. In no area is presidential leadership more important and more urgently needed than championing the fight against corruption. Today, Sierra Leone is facing a demographic crisis: over half the population there is not educated, and the G.D.P. of the nation remains lower than most countries in Africa. Sierra Leone is over dependent on mineral exploitation with no emphasis placed on large-scale agriculture of commodity products, industrial development, and sustainable investments, and an efficiently coordinated tax and revenue collection regime. A growing population and lack of jobs create fertile ground for rebels against the established order. Undertaking broad development programs will show the new administration's deep understanding that inheriting a war-free country depend on far more than the strength of the military or militia action. The situation Sierra Leone faces today is dramatically different from the one faced in the wake of the rebel war. It therefore requires more political attention and resolve.
Now elected, Ernest Bai Koroma's first acts as president should be to create a national strategy to support the fight against corruption and to push the need to build the infrastructure. It is envisioned that such a national strategy would lead to a "Contract with Sierra Leone for Prosperity and Progress": a strategy of progressive engagement that would assemble resources from wherever and use them to support public schools, microcredit and banking, the rule of law, human rights, basic health care, free-market policies, and national cleaning programs in a modernizing Sierra Leone. Resources could be drawn from public and private institutions and from volunteers and nongovernmental organizations. A critical part of this effort would involve creating new development and economic opportunities. Parliament must give the president the support to move forward with these efforts.
For Koroma to think that by merely closing his eyes and hoping that corruption will go away is not an acceptable solution. Good governance advocacy action alone cannot change the hearts and minds of the most corrupt elements in government and the private sector. In the end, only a strong and uncompromising presidency can defeat these corrupt elements. But Sierra Leoneans must work with the president. The consequences of not supporting him to fight corruption are again simply unacceptable.
Moving Beyond the Failures of the S.L.P.P.
The generation of challenges Sierra Leone faces may seem daunting. Yet confronting challenges had made heroes of historic patriots like Bai Bureh, Haidara Kontorfilli, Isaac T. A. Wallace-Johnson, and Sir Milton Margai. The democratic success and optimism that came out of the Aug. 11 presidential and parliamentary elections and Sept. 8 presidential run-off elections in every way reflect Sierra Leone's legacy or underlying strengths of a people of great resolve. Under Koroma's Sierra Leone, the current generation can match the courage, dedication, and vision of "the greatest generation" that stood up against British colonialism.
Sierra Leone is a unique nation, and there is no substitute for the historic leadership it showed during the fight against colonialism in Africa. The difficulties it faces with corruption and an incompetent civil service under a spoiled S.L.P.P. administration should neither cause Sierra Leoneans to lose faith in the new mandate given to the A.P.C. and its role in the effort to end corruption. The future depends on Sierra Leoneans resolve to move beyond the failures of the S.L.P.P. and unite the people to confront a generation of national challenges. They say evil prevails when good men fail to act. Many Sierra Leoneans seem to be optimistic that in Koroma's Sierra Leone there are a few good men in the born-again A.P.C. to prevail over evil corruption.
Common Leadership for Common Development
At moments of great peril in the last two centuries, leaders such as Bai Bureh, Alimamy Suluku, Bai Sherbro Kpana Lewis, and Haidara Kontorfilli managed both to resist the British colonialists and to inspire opportunity for the next generation. What is more, they ensured that Sierra Leoneans, by courage and resolve, fought their way to independence—that they stood for and fought for the independence and freedoms sought by all nations beyond Sierra Leone.
As Bai Bureh engineered the most remarkable resistance against the British that was ever seen, his courage gave purpose to Sierra Leoneans' struggle against colonialism. Alimamy Suluku held up an enterprising diplomacy to respond to British domination—one that paired diplomatic savoir-faire with leadership brilliance that helped to secure the peace and well-being of his dominion in colonial times. As colonialism crumbled and Sierra Leone achieved effective independent governance, Prime Minister Milton Margai modernized Sierra Leone's administrative doctrine, strengthened its governmental forces, and created a nation geared up for progress. Margai used his selfless character to show people everywhere in the world that Sierra Leone was at its best.
Today, Koroma is again called upon to provide the kind of visionary leadership seen in Sierra Leone's great historical heroes. This century's threats are at least as dangerous as and in some ways more complex than those Sierra Leoneans have confronted in the past. They come from actions by public servants that have crippled the economy on a national scale, and from previous leaderships that responded to pervasive corruption with irresponsible stewardship. They come from rogue private-sector operators who have formed alliances with corrupt government actors, and from the apathy of the people who have challenged both Sierra Leone and the national foundation of liberal democracy. Further, they come from a nation that lacks the will to continue a national cleaning program that can prevent diseases and the spawn of more devastating endemics and deadly pandemics.
To recognize the gravity of these challenges is not to give way to doom and gloom. Rather, it is a call to action. These threats demand a new vision of leadership in the 21st century—a vision that draws from the past but is not bound by rash and outdated thinking. The Kabbah administration, for instance, responded to the unconventional actions of Hinga Norman's Kamajor militia versus the national military with conventional partisan thinking, largely viewing problems between the unofficial Kamajor militia group and the official national army as army incited and principally amenable to solutions partially engineered by the Ministry of Defense under former Deputy Defense Minister Hinga Norman. It was this tragically misguided approach that led the people into another coup d'état that never should have happened and never should have been dealt with by military intervention that caused the deaths of thousands of Sierra Leoneans. In the wake of military intervention that forced Lieutenant Colonel Koroma's junta out of power, the world had also lost trust in the purposes and principles of the Kabbah administration that followed through with despicable vengeance to execute by firing squad 24 junta actors against the pleas of the international community.
After thousands of lives lost and billions of leones spent in a civil conflict and in violent military takeovers, many Sierra Leoneans may be tempted to turn inward and resign to fate. But this is a mistake Sierra Leoneans must not make. The people cannot meet the scars of civil conflict and violent military coups and the threats of corruption alone, and Koroma's presidency cannot meet them without the people. Sierra Leoneans should neither retreat from supporting Koroma nor allow their president to be bullied into submission by the military, the militia, or any corrupt cabal of cabinet ministers such as how Kabbah allowed himself to be bullied. Koroma must be allowed to lead Sierra Leone, by deed and by example.
Such leadership demands that Koroma retrieve the fundamental insight such as that of Bai Bureh, Alimamy Suluku, Bai Sherbro Kpana Lewis, Haidara Kontorfilli, I.T.A. Wallace-Johnson, and Sir Milton Margai with an agenda that is truer now than ever before: the security and well-being of each and every Sierra Leonean depend on a decisive fight against corruption. The mission of Koroma's new administration is to provide national leadership grounded in the understanding that Sierra Leoneans share a common need for development and a common pride.
Moving Beyond Winning Elections
To renew the kind of leadership seen in Prime Minister Margai's Sierra Leone in the early 1960's, Koroma must first deal with corruption decisively and refocus attention on the broader issues of nation building. Corruption was a diversion from the pursuit of broader infrastructural development and nation building programs; and the incompetent prosecution of the fight against corruption by previous regimes compounded the strategic failures of never getting around ending corruption in Sierra Leone in the first place. The scars of war and the scars inflicted by corruption on an endemic scale are seen everywhere in Sierra Leone: in rundown and badly maintained buildings, in neglected roads, in the piles of garbage that lie everywhere, in ill-equipped and filthy hospitals, in badly equipped schools and colleges, in the loss of thousands of children to diseases that could have been avoided, and in the suffering of thousands more Sierra Leoneans from hunger and disease. The time for leadership is now.
Kenday S. Kamara is a native of Sierra Leone, where he attended Fourah Bay College, University of Sierra Leone, 1982-1986. He is a freelance consultant for Global Integrity and a Ph.D. scholar-practitioner in applied management and decision sciences at Walden University, specializing in leadership and organizational change.
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Subject: Mock union
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I have been laughing and could not stop laughing at this laughable incident. AWARENESS TIMES,the champion of bogus , lie-lie journalism recommends Patriotic Vanguard to its readers and Gibril is not smart at all to notice that his paper is being dragged in the mud. He goes ahead and writes a news item on it, like it is a big thing.
I am still laughing .
In a move that took completely by surprise the editorial board of this newspaper, Dr. Sylvia Blyden’s Awareness Times on Wednesday October 10 commended us and urged its readers to read the Patriotic Vanguard while it deals with what it described as "logistical problems." Thank you Sylvia for your kind sentiments and we hope AT resolves its problems as quickly as possible.
Gibril Gbanabome Koroma(Editor/Publisher, The Patriotic Vanguard).
We publish below the endorsement from Awareness Times:
Sierra Leone News Website Recommended by Awareness Times By Editorial Board.
Oct 10, 2007, 23:06
Subject: Re: Mock union
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Now you see my point. Hahahahahaha .
Subject: Re: Mock union
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Victor, you were so right about them.Birds of the same feather flock together.
Subject: Re: Mock union
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The guy is so eager for cheap praise he did not see the joke.
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Victor, you were right about them and this Kabs Kanu guy was defending Gbanabome and Blyden.Birds of the same feather will always flock together.
Subject: SIERRA LEONE AT GLANCE
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Economy of Sierra Leone
The current version of the article was imported from the CIA World Factbook. Please discuss this issue on the talk page. Editing help is available.
Economic development has always been hampered by an overdependence on mineral exploitation. Successive governments and the population as a whole have always believed that "diamonds and gold" are sufficient generators of foreign currency earnings and lure for investment. As result large scale agriculture of commodity products, industrial development and sustainable investments have been neglected by governments. The economy could thus be described as one which is "exploitative" and based on the extraction of unsustainable resources or non-reusable assets
[edit] Macro-economic trend
This is a chart of trend of gross domestic product of Sierra Leone at market prices estimated by the International Monetary Fund and EconStats with figures in millions of Sierra Leone Leones.
Year Gross Domestic Product
1965 247
1970 355
1975 572
1980 1,155
1985 4,365
1990 98,386
1995 657,604
2000 1,330,429
Current GDP per capita of Sierra Leone grew 32% in the Sixties reaching a peak growth of 107% in the Seventies. But this proved unsustainable and it consequently shrank by 52% in the Eighties and a further 10% in the Nineties.
Rich in minerals, Sierra Leone has relied on the mining sector in general, and diamonds in particular, for its economic base. In the 1970s and early 1980s, economic growth rate slowed because of a decline in the mining sector. Financially disadvantageous exchange rates and government budget deficits led to sizable balance-of-payments deficits and inflation. Certain policy responses to external factors as well as implementations of aid projects and maintenance have led to a general decline in economic activity and a serious degradation of economic infrastructures. Sierra Leone's short-term prospects depend upon continued adherence to International Monetary Fund programs and continued external assistance.
Although two-thirds of the population engages in subsistence agriculture, and despite the fact that most Sierra Leoneans derive their livelihood from it, agriculture accounts for only 42% of national income. As of 2003, the government was trying to increase food and cash crop production and upgrade small farmer skills. Also, the government works with several foreign donors to operate integrated rural development and agricultural projects.
[edit] External trade and investment
Sierra Leonean exports in 2006Mineral exports remain Sierra Leone's principal foreign exchange earner. Sierra Leone is a major producer of gem-quality diamonds. Though rich in this resource, the country has historically struggled to manage its exploitation and export. Annual production estimates range between $70-$250 million; however, only a fraction of that passes through formal export channels (1999: $1.2 million; 2000: $16 million; 2001: projections $25 million). The balance is smuggled out and has been used to finance rebel activities in the region, money laundering, arms purchases, and financing of other illicit activities, leading some to characterize Sierra Leone's diamonds as a "conflict resource." Recent efforts on the part of the country to improve the management of the export trade have met with some success. In October 2000, a new UN-approved export certification system for exporting diamonds from Sierra Leone was put into place that led to a dramatic increase in legal exports. In 2001, the Government of Sierra Leone created a mining community development fund, which returns a portion of diamond export taxes to diamond mining communities. The fund was created to raise local communities' stake in the legal diamond trade.
Sierra Leone has one of the world's largest deposits of rutile, a titanium ore used as paint pigment and welding rod coatings. Sierra Rutile Limited, wholly owned by Nord Resources of the United States, began commercial mining operations near Bonthe in early 1979. Sierra Rutile was then the largest non-petroleum U.S. investment in West Africa. The export of 88,000 tons realized $75 million for the country in 1990. The company and the Government of Sierra Leone concluded a new agreement on the terms of the company's concession in Sierra Leone in 1990. Rutile and bauxite mining operations were suspended when rebels invaded the mining sites in 1995. Negotiations for reactivation of rutile and bauxite mining are in progress. The U.S. interest in the company has been reduced to 25%.
Since independence, the Government of Sierra Leone has encouraged foreign investment, although the business climate suffers from uncertainty and a shortage of foreign exchange because of civil conflicts. Investors are protected by an agreement that allows for arbitration under the 1965 World Bank Convention. Legislation provides for transfer of interest, dividends, and capital.
Sierra Leone is a member of the Economic Community of West African States (ECOWAS). With Liberia and Guinea, it formed the Mano River Union (MRU) customs union, primarily designed to implement development projects and promote regional economic integration. However, the MRU has so far been inactive because of domestic problems and internal and cross-border conflicts in all three countries. The future of the MRU depends on the ability of its members to deal with the fallout from these internal and regional problems.
Sierra Leone continues to rely on significant amounts of foreign assistance, principally from multilateral donors. The bilateral donors include the United States, Italy, and Germany, the largest being the United Kingdom and the European Union.
GDP: purchasing power parity - $5.012 billion (2005 est.), $2.5 billion (1999 est.)
GDP - real growth rate: 5.5% (2005 est.), -10% (1999 est.)
GDP - per capita: purchasing power parity - $800 (2005 est.), $500 (1999 est.)
GDP - composition by sector:
agriculture: 49%
industry: 31%
services: 21% (2001 est.)
agriculture: 52%
industry: 31%
services: 21% (2001)
Population below poverty line: 68% (1989 est.)
Household income or consumption by percentage share:
lowest 10%: 0.5%
highest 10%: 43.6% (1989)
Distribution of family income - Gini index: 62.9 (1989)
Inflation rate (consumer prices): 1% (2002 est.), 30% (1999 est.)
Labor force: 1.369 million (1981 est.)
note: only about 65,000 wage earners (1985)
Labor force - by occupation: agriculture NA%, industry NA%, services NA%
Unemployment rate: NA%
Budget:
revenues: $96 million
expenditures: $351 million, including capital expenditures of $NA (2000 est.)
revenues: $96 million
expenditures: $150 million, including capital expenditures of $NA (1996 est.)
Industries: mining (diamonds); small-scale manufacturing (beverages, textiles, cigarettes, footwear); petroleum refining
Industrial production growth rate: NA%
Electricity - production: 250.1 GWh (2001), 235 GWh (1998)
Electricity - production by source:
fossil fuel: 100%
hydro: 0%
other: 0% (2001)
nuclear: 0%
fossil fuel: 100%
hydro: 0%
nuclear: 0%
other: 0% (1998)
Electricity - consumption: 232.6 GWh (2001), 219 GWh (1998)
Electricity - exports: 0 kWh (2001, 1998)
Electricity - imports: 0 kWh (2001, 1998)
Oil - consumption: 6,500 barrel/day (1,000 m³/d) 2001
Agriculture - products: rice, coffee, cocoa, palm kernels, palm oil, peanuts; poultry, cattle, sheep, pigs; fish, ginger
Exports: $35 million f.o.b. (2000 est.), $41 million (f.o.b., 1998)
Exports - commodities: diamonds, rutile, cocoa, coffee, fish (1999)
Exports - partners: Greece 32.1%, Belgium 28.2%, US 6.3%, UK 5.9% (2001 est.)
Benelux 49%, Spain 10%, United States 8%, United Kingdom 3% (1997)
Imports: $190 million f.o.b. (2002 est.), $166 million (f.o.b., 1998)
Imports - commodities: foodstuffs, machinery and equipment, fuels and lubricants, chemicals (1995)
Imports - partners: UK 25.3%, Netherlands 10.3%, US 7.9%, Germany 6.3% (2001)
United Kingdom 24%, Côte d'Ivoire 14%, Benelux 10%, United States 8% (1997)
Debt - external: $1.5 billion (2002 est.), $1.15 billion (1998)
Economic aid - recipient: $103 million (2001 est.), $203.7 million (1995)
Currency: 1 leone (Le) = 100 cents
Exchange rates: leones (Le) per US$1 - 2,099.03 (2002), 1,986.15 (2001), 2,092.12 (2000), 1,804.20 (1999), 1,563.62 (1998), 981.48 (1997), 920.73 (1996), 755.22 (1995)
Fiscal year: 1 July - 30 June
[edit] See also
Economy of Africa
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Special Administrative Region of the People's Republic of China.
Designated name for the Republic of China.
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Subject: PRESIDENT KOROMA MEETS PARAMOUNT CHIEFS AT STATE HOUSE
From: Bambay Lans Kamra
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His Excellency the president Ernest Bai Koroma Monday told one hundred and forty-nine paramount chiefs during a meeting at State House that he will collaborate with everybody to ensure that there is progress.
Read on:
Subject: And what is his?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 20:33:50 10/10/07 ()
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Obey the Law; never challenge what go against the Law. If you are not in the Law enforcement do not take the Law into your hands even if you are. Do not imitate another person because they are them and you are you.
The boys who attacked me have been imprisoned.
Second face, rexipusomes.
Da mammy im gold ring wae e gie me before ar cam cost ten thousand dollars man nor see am sef since dem boys fodom pan me.
Subject: SIERRA LEONE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE CONDEMNS CABINET
From: Alimamy Bakarr Sankoh
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Date Posted: 19:38:36 10/10/07 ()
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SIERRA LEONE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE
P.D.L.
PUBLIC RELEASE STATEMENT:
DAKAR, SENEGAL.
RE: APC CABINET IS TOTAL DEVIATION FROM NATIONAL
ETHOS.
--------------------------------------------------------
The Sierra Leone People's Democratic League (PDL) has
read with utter shock, frustration and disappointment
on the composition of members of the President Ernest
Bai Koroma's led Cabinet Ministers in Sierra Leone.
The only conclusion we can draw out of the present
political rumblings that has exposed the underbelly of
the APC clique and the macabre struggle for tribal
domination and control of government machinery and
national coffers in the present political dispensation
is that, Sierra Leone is dangerously moving towards
the dark era of the Akutay (Limba organ) kleptomania.
The foregoing raises the question: what is the problem
with Sierra Leone? What are the primary factors
militating against the country's development and
progress? What must Sierra Leoneans do now to ensure a
reversal of the sorry state affairs? What other steps
Sierra Leoneans must take to produce a leadership that
is not tied to the apron string of neo-colonialism,
settlers-colonialism, imperialist rape and ethnic
hegemony? A leadership that is serious, patriotic,
god-fearing and ready to face the realities of the
situation in the country.
Sierra Leoneans rebelled against the former ruling
SLPP government of the dictator Tejan Kabbah, hoping
that President Ernest Bai Koroma would exhibit a sense
of responsible leadership model, devoid of the
arrogant assumption that a preordained cabal must
exclusively continue to decide on the future direction
of Sierra Leone, once the APC takes control of the
leadership of the country. But their hope and
expectations have become empty dreams with the naming
of a Cabinet that illustrates the so-called "monkey
wrench" hypothesis, to wit, that when a suffering,
frustrated, degraded and dehumanised people are about
to effect a patriotic self-redeeming move, foreign
detractors will use domestic traitors, stooges and
willing tools to stultify the move.
This is the case of the Ernest Bai Koroma's led APC
Cabinet, which is well-arranged to suit the tastes and
designs of Western imperialism. No wonder why Zainab
Bangura and other members of the current cabinet
recently visited London to assure former colonial
Masters, APC loyalty; and why the British reciprocated
with assurances of support to ensure the success of
the so-called APC government. Similar meeting was also
held with the murderer of the Iraqi people at the
White House in Washington. To the PDL, the meeting in
Washington was not unexpected knowing fully the
political game played by the US based National
Democratic Institute (NDI) in the Christiana Thorpe's
illegal elections in Sierra Leone. This comes to the
conclusion that the Ernest Bai Koroma's government is
an extension of US imperialism in Africa.
All these bring to question, President Bai Koroma's
much vaunted national reconciliation, unity and new
dawn in Sierra Leone; and raises question marks across
the country regarding the President intentions.
We, of the Sierra Leone People's Democratic League
therefore, vehemently oppose to the composition of the
current Sierra Leonean Cabinet as a well-wrapped
political vengeance; resurface of APC old politics of
ethnic hatreds, malice and grudges; unjust, anti-peace
and stigmatisation of Sierra Leone's baby democracy.
In our view, we say that Sierra Leone under Ernest Bai
Koroma led APC is heading towards the fatal grip of
neo-colonialism. We see Mr. Koroma as another stooge
of imperialism who is only admired by traitors like
Aung San Suu Kyi of Burma, to work for the
imperialists against his/her people. He therefore
lacks the necessary democratic tutelage for the job of
President and Commander-In-Chief of the Armed Forces
of the Republic of Sierra Leone at this crucial moment
of our nation's history.
The PDL has no agenda or plans that are hostile to the
peace and stability of Sierra Leone. We believe, as
every one does that it is only in peace that Sierra
Leoneans can go about their daily businesses across
the country. It is only in a spirit of patriotism and
love for one another that Sierra Leone can extricate
itself from its current mess. What we say, and will
continue to say is that, the structure of the current
APC Government does not reflect the nation's interest.
On the contrary, it manifests a Northern clique and
exposes further, the Party's greed, deceit,
ethnic-propelled, ethnic-oriented and anti-Sierra
Leone motivated agenda.
As concerned Sierra Leoneans, committed to rid Sierra
Leone's body polity of power usurpers, parasites and
political prostitutes; politics of god-fatherism,
opportunistic individualism, crass individualism,
opulence and immorality, we, of the PDL have resolved
to lead a national campaign for the formation of a
Parallel Government outside the APC Kleptomania, to
rid the system of the scheming emperors and rogues
lurking behind the curtain. It would be the goal of
the proposed Parallel Government to wrest our
democracy.
In respect to this, the PDL has advised its Party
cadres across Sierra Leone to seek the support of like
minded Sierra Leonean individuals and groups, and
God-willing, the proposed Parallel Government would be
put in place soon. The struggle must now intensify to
elevate Sierra Leone's body polity from the gutter of
base rude tribalism, nepotism, intrigue and mafia cult
to that of political decency, progress and dignity.
What we need in Sierra Leone at this crucial moment is
a leader who could champion the struggle for a
complete change of the rotten system or status quo
into real freedom; and for achieving stability,
progress and respect for all Sierra Leoneans in the
comity of nations.
Sierra Leoneans no longer cherished leaders who have
not abandoned the sacred narrow path and make
themselves vampires. The PDL does not recognise a
government in Sierra Leone, which is linked to
imperialist rape in Africa. Besides, the Ernest Bai
Koroma's led government was borne out of fraudulent
and unconstitutional arrangements, and therefore,
cannot be described as democratic.
We conclude by warning APC gurus not to run the
domestic affairs of Sierra Leone as US satellite in
the region.
Senders:
1. Alimamy Bakarr SANKOH
Leader and Chairman of the PDL.
2. Amadu B. BAH
PDL Secretary for Foreign Affairs and International
Solidarity.
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE CONDEMNS CABINET
From: D. A. KORAY NEW YORK-Man of Thoughts
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Date Posted: 15:48:52 10/13/07 ()
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"Put People First" is just what President Ernest Bai Koroma is trying to do in Sierra Leone.The comments made by the the contributors of the 'Sierra Leone People's Democratic League in condemning the Cabinet so far is crazy. When will you people get things right?. This President is on the move to get it done and is getting it right. The Sierra Leone Democratic League should continue to stand up,speak up and shut up sometimes. He is doing the right thing.
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE CONDEMNS CABINET
From: Detective
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Date Posted: 15:41:03 10/11/07 ()
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Wasn't Foday Sankoh's wife a Senegalese living and operating from Dakar?
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE CONDEMNS CABINET
From: Bai Bureh
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My take on this is:DEAD MEN DON'T COUNT.One wonders where such an obscure and unscruplous group have been hibernating when the people of Salone had been suffering for the past ten years.When all patriotic and sane-thinking saloneans are becoming more proactive,here is a group still living in the past thinking the best for them is to be reactive.Where are their inputs regarding solutions to the Salone problems? What about inputs regarding selection of the right people for ministerial positions? Instead of ranting and raving with such destructive criticism, they could have put their wonderful ideas into the present melting pot for a better Salone.
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE CONDEMNS CABINET
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 21:44:08 10/10/07 ()
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Childish. Unqualified. Rather stupid. Laughable. Hysterical and Absurd. Not to be taken seriously. Will be more explicit later in the day.
Sengbe to lead SLPP to the 2012 attempt to regain POW-er?
You will have to work harder at bagging this:
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE CONDEMNS CABINET
From: Fayah Musa
To: All
Date Posted: 20:43:36 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alimamy! Why did you not think about PDL before you went to join the RUF?
Again, Feral Bushmen like you must understand that things like parallel cabinet have no place in a democracy.
If you want power so bad, Oona form oona party en compete pan elections Ya!
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE CONDEMNS CABINET
From: Kack Chest Lek Bombali Granat Pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 20:23:47 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Never heard of this group, the People's Democratic League (PDL). By the way, why are you headquatered in Senegal? Are you legit or just a bunch of kooks? However, your rants about U.S imperialism are so funny. Gave me a good belly laugh. I thought radical politics in Africa ended with the demise of Thomas Sankara and the limousine revolutionary himself, Joseph Kabila. Very entertaining stuff though.
Aluta Continua! Victoria a siempre! Vivre la Revolution! Down with Food! Down with Electricity! Revolution or Death! Whatever!
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE CONDEMNS CABINET
From: Kack Chest Lek Bombali Granat Pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 21:30:01 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Correction: Not Joseph Kabila. I meant his pops, Laurent Kabila!
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONE PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC LEAGUE CONDEMNS CABINET
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:41:36 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
This particular post is not important.
Criminal Investigation Divission (CID/FBI)
See where they get your information.
It is wanna bees who do not have anything better to do. Do you think an intelligent Sierra Leonean or group would write such a nonesense.
There are those who are disgruntled about peace in Sierra Leone. They expected to see people eating people.
Have you seen people so poor, they go about counting how many people they are richer than?
So poor does not want to look in some ones eyes thinking that poverty is written on his or her face.
So poor whhen he or she hears of a rich person he or she either gets angry or cries because it has reminded him or her about his or her poverty?
So poor that he or she will stand by dustbin to see who eats from it so that he or she reasure him or herself that he or she is not in it alone?
So poor getting a car he or she feels he or she is the richest person in the world?
So poor will stop others from getting how much he or she has because haven an equivalent of what he or she has will remind him or her of his or her poverty?
Well, I have seen it.
Some kind of poverty I tell you!
See where most of these names are coming from.
http://www.sierra-leone.org/emaila-c.html
Subject: SOME PEOPLE CONGRESS, INSTEAD OF ALL PEOPLE CONGRESS(APC)
From: Sahid Kaba
To: All
Date Posted: 19:16:26 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: majubakaba@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-66-56-50-52.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 66.56.50.52
Message:
Our newly elected president talks about reconciliation and unity between sierra Leonean before taking office. He said " in the next few days i will be representing every Sierra Leonean not A.P.C" Does the new cabinet represent every Sierra Leonean? All the names in the new cabinet represent the north not Sierra Leone, you may want to argue that it just the frist names. But it's the most important positions. I think every God fearing Sierra Leonean will agreed that the newly appointed ministers are not the most qualify to run our country, except if you are die a hard A.P.C supporter. We should all remenber that Sierra Leone belongs to all Sierra Leonean, not the north.
Subject: Re: SOME PEOPLE CONGRESS, INSTEAD OF ALL PEOPLE CONGRESS(APC)
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 01:44:30 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
Sahid if you had expected the likes of John Benjamin or John Karimu then you are in for a rude shock.
What about John Saad? Is he a northerner? Your problem is not about north or south but SLPP and PMDC.Simply because there are PMDC faces in the cabinet, you think there should also be some SLPP faces.For your information,it is not binding on the prezo to appoint SLPP politicians as ministers and you know it very well.With the first appointments there is already diversity in the cabinet and that does not require the compulsion of inducting from all political parties.
Did you make this same observation when the SLPP was in power?
Subject: Re: SOME PEOPLE CONGRESS, INSTEAD OF ALL PEOPLE CONGRESS(APC)
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 23:47:23 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Sahid, this is to YOU:
This hysterical about qualifications!”
Check this out:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=How+many+universities+in+Sweden
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Swedish+universities
So far we have a very good choice of ministers and equally important should be their staff, engineers, economists, doctors, teachers, agriculturalists/ farmers. Should Dr. Monty Jones be the minister of Agriculture (an administrator?) or is he more useful doing scientific research?
…..it’s said that Berewa only had ONE typewriter in his office and did most of the work…
In ther sLPP government we had a surgeon who was appointed minister of works, remember?
If we should have things your way then all the ministers should be professors from the best Universities in the world – and perhaps the president himself or the chief kakatoa should be the professor of professors!
Well, there are over 46 Universities in the UK and London is the financial capital of the world.
Look at this:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=British+Cabinet
Take a good look at the composition of current Swedish Cabinet:
Click on the minister's name to the right a new page will appear and to the left of that page you can read the minister's CV:
The Swedish Cabinet.
http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/576
Subject: Re: SOME PEOPLE CONGRESS, INSTEAD OF ALL PEOPLE CONGRESS(APC)
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 23:29:05 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Re - “ that the newly appointed ministers are not the most qualify to run our country” etc etc.
This hysterical about qualifications!”
Check this out:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=How+many+universities+in+Sweden
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Swedish+universities
So far we have a very good choice of ministers and equally important should be there staff, engineers, economists, doctors, teachers, agriculturalists/ farmers. Should Dr. Monty Jones be the minister of Agriculture (an administrator?) or is he more useful doing scientific research?
…..it’s said that Berewa only had ONE typewriter in his office and did most of the work…
If we should have things your way then all the ministers should be professors from the best Universities in the world – and perhaps the president himself or the chief kakatoa should be the professor of professors!
Well, there are over 46 Universities in the UK and London is the financial capital of the world.
Look at this:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=British+Cabinet
Take a good look at the composition of current Swedish Cabinet:
The Swedish Cabinet.
http://www.sweden.gov.se/sb/d/576
Subject: Re: SOME PEOPLE CONGRESS, INSTEAD OF ALL PEOPLE CONGRESS(APC)
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 19:30:24 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
Sahid,
Even you stated that he said that "I will be representing every Sierra Leonean". He didn't say his cabinet will represent every Sierra Leonean.
And he President of ALL SIERRA LEONEANS. Each cabinet represnet their specific ministries. Hahahaaaaaaaa. Boe Blow Force En Wait For Di Man En See
Subject: A profile of Sierra Leone’s Zainab Bangura
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:15:57 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195198.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.198
Message:
By Osman Benk Sankoh.
It was a late evening Sierra Leone’s Independence Day party in the Liberian capital, Monrovia. A lot of Sierra Leonean expatriates working with the UN systems in that country were around. The DJ with much unbridled gusto was dishing out intercontinental tracks that kept every one present permanently on the stage dancing. From Congo to California and Manila to Siberia, the DJ was just reeling out the very best of soundtracks that the world could offer.
Soon, it was the turn of our own Emerson Bockarie’s ‘Tutu party’ to be unleashed from the DJ’s jukebox. The atmosphere erupted into an explosive musical volcano as Sierra Leoneans as well as their Liberian hosts and other internationals, ran helter-skelter, grabbed colleagues or companions and moved on stage to display their dancing talents.
Continue down here:
Subject: Leigh says: Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:54:25 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
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Message:
Going through one of John Leigh's postings in defense of Kabba's rice dealing my eye caught a sentence where Leigh claimed that Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba. At that time Ernest was opposition leader. I would like to know like all decent citizens what Ernest did with the rice. Did he sell the rice for profit? Did he sell/distribute the rice at cost price? Did he donate the rice to Bombali District? Where did he get the money from? Now that he is prez, is he going to declare his assets? Sierra Leone does not need another APC leader like Siaka that did not know his personal account from the treasury. Ernest, please do not misplace the trust the people have heaped upon you.
Subject: Re: Leigh says: Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 01:52:22 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
If you want to make this a big deal, I myself bought 500 bags from Kabba. So what? Should I tell you what I did with the rice or where I got the money from?
Why are you so childishly naive?
Suppose Ernest had borrowed the money from me or from his relatives?
Is it a crime to do business transactions when you are an opposition leader?
Don't you have important things to think of?
Subject: Re: Leigh says: Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba
From: Salone Man
To: All
Date Posted: 21:37:16 10/12/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bai Bureh is your post for real?! I have copied it below. Whatever rice Pa Kabba was selling (if this is true) did not come from his farm. It was stolen from the people of Salone and when Ernest was buying the rice, he knew what he was buying, so is he just another corupt politician?
Subject: Re: Leigh says: Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba
From: Tayyib Bah
To: All
Date Posted: 07:19:21 10/12/07 ()
Email Address: tayyibbah@btinternet.com
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Message:
But where did Kabbah himself get the thousands of bags of rice from which Ernest bought a thousand?
Let's focus on the future my fellow Saloneans!!
Subject: Re: Leigh says: Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 02:16:44 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Noh men di munku en scarf dem....
Subject: Re: Leigh says: Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:34:28 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
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Message:
Hamelberg, I don't know where you come from, but I know that Hamelbergs are traditionally wannabe catholics not politicians.The females wannbe nuns and can't handle it. The men wannabe Fathers and after getting free education desert the order. If the Hamelbergs were in US they would have benifitted from all these class action suits the catholic church is paying. Maybe, Cornelius you can apply under one of your stupid ideas you have in your head. Lonta
Subject: Re: Leigh says: Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:51:10 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
All you want to do is insult people. I am not from that school. Maybe youy should bring a case against the catholic church in SL for all the abuse the Hamelbergs, Gandas, Pedigreens etc have suffered in the name of religion. How many years did you spend in Nigeria trying to fool people you want to be a father? Don't let me give up some names.
If you reply, please NO INSULTS, be civil and give up the facts. Lonta
Subject: Re: Leigh says: Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 05:48:36 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Ignorant son of bitch, I asked you for your name.
I am somebody else you see Mr. Ignorant Imbecile of many lies.
And which ideas are you talking about?
You don't know what an idea is.... perhaps you don't know the kind of idiot you are and what do you know apart from telling lies?
Subject: Re: Leigh says: Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 05:43:01 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
what's your name?
Subject: Re: Leigh says: Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 22:07:33 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"Where did he get the money from?"
To buy 1,000 bags of rice?????????????
Was that a question?
C'mon, not everybody is a pauper you know.
Haven't you raed or heard aout the new policy that public servants will have to declare their assets - and to give an accounting if those assetes should increase at a supernatural/magical rate of accelaration?
Wake up man!
Subject: Re: Leigh says: Ernest bought 1000 bags of rice from Kabba
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 19:19:39 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 62.189.241.185
Message:
My brother you should be more concerned about what Kabba did with the money that Koroma paid for the rice than where Koroma got the money from. You do not need to be super rich to buy 1000 bags of rice.
A word of advice to you is not to believe a word Leigh says. I think the man needs his head examined. Dont get me wrong I used to have so much respect for the man until he made a complete fool of himself and decided to become an expert bootlicker. Need I say more??
Subject: Ex Ministers and Parastatals must pay back what they owe
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 18:02:59 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 62.189.241.185
Message:
I understand our former so called minister of education has moved to london with the intention of living off his ill-gotten wealth after him and his cohorts have systematically looted our beloved country. If anyone can confirm this I would like to bring this to the attention of the British government so that the likes of Alpha Wurie and any other THIEF should be asked to repay what they have squandered and not think that they can deprive a whole country and live off the spoils in the west. So brothers and sisters in diaspora let us join hands together and put a stop to this by grassing these guys out; the British government for one will be prepared to support us as long as we can provide concrete evidence. I eagerly await your response to get the ball rolling..
Subject: Re: Ex Ministers and Parastatals must pay back what they owe
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 19:24:19 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
The investigations must continue.
Clear figures be put on how much he may have stolen.
Demand repayment and any other legal involvement.
Prosecute him in absentia
Demand that he appears in court to stand trial.
Pass the judgement if found guilty in absentia
Get him sentenced in absentia
Demand his deportation from Britain
Otherwise he remains a criminal anywhere he lives in the world.
Very, very simple.
Subject: Re: Ex Ministers and Parastatals must pay back what they owe
From: kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:01:07 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Will they also investigate the contracts Charles Margai doled out when he was a SLPP minister.
Anymore word on Berewa's house in the Dominican republic.
Subject: Re: Ex Ministers and Parastatals must pay back what they owe
From: Kack Chest Lek Bombali Granat Pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 21:33:20 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Me man, you nor go blow for dae harass Toe bot de Dominican house?
Subject: Re: Ex Ministers and Parastatals must pay back what they owe
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 08:30:54 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Bombali granat pikin..
Whats up mate.. been a while..
I as a supporter of SLPP..
Wholeheartedly welcome this and ANY investigation..
If Mr Wurie stole money from MY salone.. HE should answer to our laws and if found culpable.. gallows.. 20-25 years minimum for all those who had position of trust..
Once those laws are set.. and offenders prosecuted..and these laws are seen to be enforced even the APC will think twice about been ahnamppi's..
Its a win win situation for us all.. even us in the SLPP camp..
Subject: Re: Ex Ministers and Parastatals must pay back what they owe
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 18:26:03 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
He left UK late last month. Believe he is back in Salone.
Subject: Re: Ex Ministers and Parastatals must pay back what they owe
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 19:01:46 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 62.189.241.185
Message:
Thanks Chez, I think we should all keep and eye out for them and their families and teach them a lesson.
Sierra Leoneans are fed up and no longer wish to be taken for a ride. If I personally come across any of them I will make a citizens arrest and hand them over to the authorities. I hope well meaning Sierra Leoneans like yourself will help root out this evil that has plagued our beloved nation for so long.
I have just been reliably informed that the SLPP Government actually used Bank Of Sa Lone funds to finance their campaign. How dare they rob us in broad daylight. We are dutybound to put a stop to this; these idiots have no right to live in peace until they pay back every penny they have stolen...Nuff said!!!
Subject: Re: Ex Ministers and Parastatals must pay back what they owe
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 08:36:23 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Salone Boy..
I would advice against haste or a rush to judgement.
YOu do not want your citizens arrest to turn into vigilante justice or you been charged with Assualt.
When the man HAS BEEN found guilty.. If you bracket am nah peckam.. you have the whole salone cummunities permission to 3 foot him.. and put him in a suitcase, ship tru Robert Claire and write care of:
CID, pademba rd..
Until then.. we might need to post bail for you if you acousted the Wuries on a London/Kent St.
Subject: CORRUPT EX MINISTER OF EDUCATION
From: The group for justice
To: All
Date Posted: 02:27:33 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alpha Wurie, you were the minister of Education since Kabba took over the country. You left the UK just after you finished your PHD and you went to Sierra Leone with nothing other than your qualifications. You now own a property in the UK worth £1.5 million pounds sterling and not leones. Your family has been jetting around the world like millionaires. In fact you are a millionaire at the expense of the people of sierra Leone.
You even provide scholarship for your son to pursue further studies in the UK when so many Sierra Leoneans who deserved this assistance were not able to get. You were supposed to be the minister for all and not for your family. You drive a current registration number jeep in the UK and you even own another property in Swiss Cottage where only people with vast some of wealth can be found. That property is even worth more than that mentioned above (i.e. is the property in kent). The people of Sierra Leone are no fools even though you have taken them to be.
We now want you to do the decent thing and hand over all the wealth you stole from us. We will continue to give you this publicity until you act positively to our satisfaction. We will also get the Department of Home Office to help shop you to the sitting government in Sierra Leone. Please note that asylum will never be granted to your family because the Geneva Convetion will not protect you.
We therefore call on all Sierra Leoneans to come together and recover from Alpha all the sums stolen from us.
KABS WHAT IS YOUR VIEW ON THIS ISSUE?
Subject: Passwords now?
From: Leonean
To: All
Date Posted: 17:53:54 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 71-215-198-118.mpls.qwest.net at 71.215.198.118
Message:
When the SLPP was in power, everybody was free to enter this forum and write whatever comment they desired, be it objective or subjective.
Now that APC has won and Cocorioko has openly stated that they are going to be very pro government, they have now started to toy with the idea of introducing forum passwords, all in a bid to control dialogue and propagate pro APC views.
It is these for the moment, monofocal and parochial decisions by those that are supposed to be objective that facilitate the emergence of dictatorships. Fortunately, nobody has a monopoly of information these days. If Cocorioko wants to prevent the propagation of objective information about the new APC government, I want to inform the Reverend that with the advent of the internet, this is practically impossible. If you doubt what I'm saying, just ask Charles Taylor.
We will find ways to disseminate objective news as long as the Internet exists and not subject ourselves to foolish propaganda. You will just reduce the traffic to this site. Just ask awareness times.
Subject: Re: Passwords now?
From: boli
To: All
Date Posted: 02:57:46 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: boli@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-65-107-160.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.65.107.160
Message:
hehehehe
Subject: Re: Passwords now?
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 08:24:08 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Tell am..
Its a do or dies situation revo..
Go with the times or find yourself left on the curb like banana peel..
Subject: SO FAR, SO GOOD
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 15:52:49 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: mfofana2004@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
So far the cabinet appointment is good. Many people will not mind if new qualified people are nominated for cabinet posts. However, many will equally get disappointed if “RECYLED OLD POLITICIANS or THIEVES” NAMES START POPING UP. PEOPLE SUCH AS THE LIKES OF VICTTOR FOH, BIRCH CONTEH, ABAS BUNDU, AKK etc
Subject: Re: SO FAR, SO GOOD
From: Kortor
To: All
Date Posted: 16:51:26 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-141-170-249.range86-141.btcentralplus.com at 86.141.170.249
Message:
Please do not even mention Birch Conteh as he is not competent enough to hold any ministerial position. He was a one time minister of lands and mines appointed purely on Ekutay basis. A guy who could not even express himself well despite the so called education he claimed to have achieved. Ernest, you have started a good job please do not allow the likes of Birch Conteh to ruin your good effort.
Subject: Cabs Kanu - I see your online poll is one my side.
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:39 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
We say no to censorship..
We say no to censorship..
We say no to censorship..
We say no to censorship..
We say no to censorship..
We say no to censorship..
We say no to censorship..
If you want to live by the sword.. accept a few cuts and bruises.
Thank you for been such a democratic (cough) minded individual..
Cough cough... ah em.. em... cough...
heheheheheheheheheheheheheh
We the SLPP internet squade.. just love you man..
Subject: Re: Cabs Kanu - I see your online poll is one my side.
From: Boli
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:56 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: Boli@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-65-115-27.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.65.115.27
Message:
The man has gone down in my estimation. Rev? I wonder where he was ordained and what vows he took in his so-called ordination. He was quick to point out the misgivings of the SLPP, yet the APC is supposed to be spared any criticism. He keeps on using Sylvia Blyden as his reasons for promoting censorship. Why threaten people? As he insinuates, this is HIS forum and he can do what he likes. Yes, he can, but until then, I will be objective as I can and say what I feel - IN THIS FORUM.
Why the obsession with Sylvia Blyden? Has the 'REV' got skeletons in his cupboard? As a journalist he should know the consequences of being partisan. The SLPP is gone, we are looking towards the future with APC, but that does not mean we will be stifled and gagged. The SLPP tried it before, WHERE ARE THEY NOW? I am sure that before this piece is censored few people will see it and know not everyone will pander to this supposed man of God's whims.
Mr Kabs WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE......That's what you Americans say, is it? We say 'ooda troway asses.....asses go falla am'.
KABS, be true to yourself and your GOD
Subject: Is Earnest Cabinet a game of bait and switch?
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 13:38:35 10/10/07 ()
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I have this gut feeling that we will be shocked by the next round of ministers appointed..
This stems from the fact that the ones annointed so far are in my humble opinion..all are too too squeakly clean.. APC is not know for this level of sophistry and they cant be this saintly... its ingenetic and they are allergic to such good and candid style of governance..
This takes me to the jist of this thread..
I believe this was a bait.. a teaser.. a tester to guage the waters and see how the populace at large accepts the choices the NEW prezo makes (Prezo Koro)..
And from all indications... we are all biting this hook, lies and stinkers.. So far so good..
Except Hajj Money Khan who is the only one i can point finger and yell !!!!!!!!CHAP!!!!!!!!
NEXT round will come the victor foe's and the APC kabudus, and the EKUTAY squad (binkolo 11)..since now we are all off guard and we all trust the "WISE" decisions of preso Koro..Even if we have to grumble, we can always self convince that the cabinet is a bit balance with the old and the new and the good might outweight the bad..
Good strategy APC..
I hope, and pray my gut feeling is wrong ..
If it is ..
I will publicly apologise to this forum.
Subject: Re: Is Earnest Cabinet a game of bait and switch?
From: Kabudu Gen
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Date Posted: 16:44:21 10/10/07 ()
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Ah Candido. You will be pleasantly surprised that there is no bait and switch. We really are going to get a good cabinet that will be held to the highest standards of governance.
By the way, I believe that this is an interim government. Why? Because many of the ministers will succumb to the historical vices of politicians: bribery, corruption and incompetence. Unlike past governments, however, incompetent ministers will not be allowed to stay on and pollute the joint. This president will fire them faster than a bolt of lighting. He is extremely serious about making a difference and will not allow anyone to mess with his re-election and legacy. The next crop of dedicated ministers will be the real deal, the ones who stay. I therefore ask those who haven't been called up, or wouldn't make the cut in the next list, not to give up. Be patient if you really have been bitten by the public service bug.
One last thing. As someone who has been an internet warrior for President Ernest Koroma in different pseudonym brigades, I hope he takes into consideration that he is the president of a multi-tribal, multi regional democracy, when he releases the next list of ministers. I know I am going to catch some flack for this, but it will just make me feel much better if I see on the next list a lot more Vandys, Bockaris, Vambois, Massaquois, Forays, Sandys, Mannahs and other Southeastern names.
President Koroma is going to succeed and he is going to be the most successful president in our history. I will just like him to succeed with a cabinet of all the beautiful rainbow colors of our wonderful nation.
God Bless!
Kabudu!
Subject: To Brother Toegondoe - on Charles Margai
From: Shembu
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Date Posted: 11:37:46 10/10/07 ()
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Mousaff,
I know PMDC is doing good after picking up those covetted positions and more to come, for sure. But my questions to you: is brother Charles happy so far? Will he be given a visible assignment too? I hope so...because this brother has risen above all negative political vices in our country and made it possible for the breath of fresh air we currently experience.
What do you have to say on the PMDC appointments and the future of Charles Margai.
p/s: I know charlie is definitely playing a major role behind the scenes, but I would also like to see him awarded a position from where we can visibly see him in operation (I wished he was given the AG-ship, but ..oh well).
Subject: Re: To Brother Toegondoe - on Charles Margai
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 19:12:44 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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Good question. You know people who don't know the principle of this man are the ones always quick to make judgements about him. Charle's main objective was to ensure the survival and continuity of his new party after the elections. That was one of the major reason for supporting APC amongst many others.
Charles does not want an overt position. He cherishes his friendship with Ernest more than many other interests. Right now, he is more concerned that Ernest succeeds in getting the job done so that he too can be indirectly commended for the decision he made. I think that's more of what he wants.
I haven't really talked to him in terms of his personal want out of this administartion, I shall leave that to him to tell me if he choses to, I think its a bit of a private matter. But he seems to be enjoying the effective work he is doing behind the scenes.
I also believe that PMDC is happy about the outcome so far especially that there is no potential vengeance hanging over their survival as it may have happened under SLPP.
Subject: Re: To Brother Toegondoe - on Charles Margai
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 12:20:59 10/10/07 ()
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Shembu,
I saw the cabinet list and I must admit, I am ignorant about the party affiliations of the ministers. I was under the impression that they were all APC. Can you please tell us who are the PMDC ministers, please?
Kindly,
MB.
Subject: Re: To Brother Toegondoe - on Charles Margai
From: Shembu
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Date Posted: 12:41:03 10/10/07 ()
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MB,
I am not sure myself but I heard that Kabia, Saad and the guy appointed for Lands and the environment are PMDC.
Hopefully Toe will shed some light soon.
Subject: Re: To Brother Toegondoe - on Charles Margai
From: Moijue
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Date Posted: 06:48:58 10/11/07 ()
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Correct
Subject: Re: To Brother Toegondoe - on Charles Margai
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
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Date Posted: 12:31:03 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: hs02lab17.osr.columbia.edu at 156.111.41.14
Message:
PMDC's
*Dr Kabia=Health
*John Saad=Housing
*Captain Benjamin=Lands
Subject: Re: To Brother Toegondoe - on Charles Margai
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 13:24:52 10/10/07 ()
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And these are considered prominent portfolio's?
PMDC is getting the shafting..
Subject: Re: To Brother Toegondoe - on Charles Margai
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
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Date Posted: 19:16:13 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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Message:
Almamy,
Consider that this is an APC government, not a coalition government. PMDC will take whatever they are given, its ok. nor Kam Try Set Faya Na Ya. Bad Boy!
Subject: Re: To Brother Toegondoe - on Charles Margai
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 12:41:21 10/10/07 ()
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Merci beaucoup, Almamy Razak.
MB.
Subject: PRESIDENT KOROMA FALLS SHORT.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
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Date Posted: 11:14:06 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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During the 2002 elections campaign, Mr. Ernest Koroma condemned ex-president Tejan Kabba for appointing members of parliament as ministers.
Mr. Koroma rightly pointed out that the constitution states clearly that"NO MEMBER FOR PARLIAMENT SHALL BECOME A MINISTER".I, like so many that SLPP members supported Mr. Koroma on the issue, but I am surprised to notice that the same Mr. Ernest Koroma is now nominating members of parliament for the position of ministers. Is this not double standard?
The sprite of that constitutional provision is to prevent a brain drain in parliament and also to allow people who want to enter politics, make up their minds as to what arm of government they wish to serve.
I want president Koroma to understand that when he takes a member out of parliament, government will have to conduct a bye election to fill that vacancy and that will bring a financial loss to the country.
At this difficult time , president Koroma must not manufacture ways and means to waste the country's money.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA FALLS SHORT.
From: Rotorata
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Date Posted: 05:42:15 10/11/07 ()
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Alpha
The constitution does not state that no MP should be appointed a Minister. What is written therein is that should an MP be elected a Minister then that MP must resign his/her Parliamentary seat. Under the previous list party system (i.e. a simplistic form of proportional representation) once an MP has been appointed a Minister, the next name on the list who did not make it on the the final list of MPs is automatically elevated to Parliament.
At present, this is no longer the case because MPs were voted in through the constituency system (i.e. each MP representing a defined constituency). In short if one of the new MPs were appointed a Minister then that MPs seat in Parliament will be declared vacant and a by-election held within 90 days.
The whole basis of these requirements was to espouse the doctrine of `Separation of Powers' between the Legislature (Parliament), the Executive (Cabinet Ministers) and the Judiciary (Law Officers, Magistrates and Judges)
INTILLI
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA FALLS SHORT.
From: Mr President
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Date Posted: 12:09:51 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: cottontree1800@gmail.com
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I am not sure were you are getting your facts from, if they are credible, Mr. Koroma should abide by the constitution. However, if he can’t find qualify individuals with integrity, experience, and qualification that he deem necessary to hold a ministerial post, I think for the betterment of the country, he should select his cabinets from any available poll – parliament or abroad. The constitution should not be an impediment/bottleneck as long as it is in the interest of good governance and not political favors. Parliament should revisit this provision in the constitution or probably hold a referendum to rectify it.
Can you name me one Member of Parliament who has been nominated to hold a ministerial post?
I think one of the reasons why the president delayed to appoint his cabinets/team is because he wanted to uphold the constitution, not the other way around.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA FALLS SHORT.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 23:09:51 10/10/07 ()
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Perfectly reasoned Mr. President. You have my 100%
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA FALLS SHORT.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 12:02:42 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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Cornelius, If you believe that I am wrong, please, state your point but do not insult me. Let us treat each other with respect.
Always remember that respect is a give and take commodity.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA FALLS SHORT. (apologies to Mr. Bangura
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 22:59:19 10/10/07 ()
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Mr. Alpha Saidu Bangura, I am sorry, sincerely. I was being – took the liberty to be a little jocular and familiar, having read so many of your - from my point of view- disagreeable commentaries 'm sorry. Perhaps the childish expression “silly Billy” is too strong a word. There are even more potent or round about ways of making the same point and perhaps causing less offence. The English language resources are infinite but I do insist that the latest trash signed by one Alimamy Bakarr SANKOH and Amadu B. BAH, does not fall short of the imbecilic.
http://www.joe-ks.com/phrases/phrasesS.htm
Moral succour is on its way and if you visit SLPP world wide shortly after this you may read the moral support and understanding that I will lend John Mannah on the issue for which John Mannah takes Rt. Hon. Rev Kabs-Kanu to task for baptising the SLPP as “WORTHLESS”.
But from you it’s irritating implied questions such as where is the money going to come from in your
“The sprite of that constitutional provision is to prevent a brain drain in parliament and also to allow people, who want to enter politics, make up their minds as to what arm of government they wish to serve.
I want president Koroma to understand that when he takes a member out of parliament, government will have to conduct a bye election to fill that vacancy and that will bring a financial loss to the country.
At this difficult time, president Koroma must not manufacture ways and means to waste the country's money.”
Obviously Mr. president is trying to appoint the best / most suitable people that can serve the people of Sierra Leone in his cabinet and he obviously will have to appoint an MP ( and thus create a bye-election) if need be, all in the interest of good governance and democracy, for all that's best fro Sierra Leone ( the people of Sierra Leone)
He will not appoint an inferior person when there is a more suitable person to do the job just because the more suitable person happens to be an MP. That would fall far short of a creative thinking in aid of a solution.
Mr. Koroma is reaching a little beyond the confines of lateral thinking. And why do you think that means a brain drain? When that MP will easily be replaced - perhaps by an even more talented MP?
News update
http://news.google.co.uk/news?hl=en&ned=uk&q=Sierra+leone
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA FALLS SHORT.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 11:36:36 10/10/07 ()
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You are now being SILLY like Billy
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA FALLS SHORT.
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 12:23:25 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: cottontree1800@gmail.com
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Message:
Cornelius you owe Mr. Bangura an apology. One of the reasons for this forum is to educate our self and others. More importantly, is to bring light to issues in a positive manner. We should be the watch dogs. Lets provide positive/constructive criticism/feedback and avoid name calling.
Your postings are well thought and informative - keep the good work.
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA FALLS SHORT.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 22:41:47 10/10/07 ()
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Mr. Alpha Saidu Bangura, I am sorry. Please accept my apology. Some ideas can sound silly or not so good. The idea, not you. I'm sorry. Perhaps the childish expression “silly Billy” is too strong a word. There are even more potent or round about ways of making the same point and perhaps causing less offence. The English language resources are infinite but I do insist that the latest trash signed by one Alimamy Bakarr SANKOH and Amadu B. BAH , does not fall short of the imbecilic.
Moral succour is on its way and if you visit SLPP world wide shortly after this you may read the moral support and understanding that I will lend John Mannah on the issue for which John Mannah takes Rt. Hon. Rev Kabs-Kanu to task for baptising the SLPP as “WORTHLESS”.
But from you it’s irritating implied questions such as where is the money going to come from in your
“The sprite of that constitutional provision is to prevent a brain drain in parliament and also to allow people, who want to enter politics, make up their minds as to what arm of government they wish to serve.
I want president Koroma to understand that when he takes a member out of parliament, government will have to conduct a bye election to fill that vacancy and that will bring a financial loss to the country.
At this difficult time, president Koroma must not manufacture ways and means to waste the country's money.”
Obviously Mr. president is trying to appoint the best / most suitable people that can serve the people of Sierra Leone in his cabinet and he obviously will have to appoint an MP ( and thus create a bye-election) if need be, all in the interest of good governance and democracy.
He will not appoint an inferior person when there is a more suitable person to do the job just because he is an MP. That would fall far short of a creative thinking in aid of a solution.
Mr. Koroma is reaching a little beyond the confines of lateral thinking. And why do you think that means a brain drain? When that MP will easily be replaced - perhaps by an even more talented MP?
News update
http://news.google.co.uk/news?hl=en&ned=uk&q=Sierra+leone
Subject: Re: PRESIDENT KOROMA FALLS SHORT.
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 12:37:05 10/10/07 ()
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But Mr. President,
ASBangura should state the member of Paliament who has been nominated as a Minister.
Secondly, there's a reason why, the same constitution states that a Member of Parliament (MP) can become a minister only after he steps down as an MP.
Subject: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Tayyib Bah
To: All
Date Posted: 10:47:45 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: tayyibbah@btinternet.com
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I wish to comment on the above and ask every true, patriotic Sierra Leonean to commend Tejan Kabbah in this scam in which Wanza bribed then V-P Joe Demby, Cabinet Minsters, MPs, the Press and just anybody whom he believed would impede his diabolical plan of milking stupid Sierra Leoneans of US$5,000,000.
It started with Wanza supplying in the 1990s the SL Navy with a refurbished, used gun-boat which he bought for about $200,000 but for which he charged the SL Goernment $5,000,000!!
To ensure payment, he embarked upon his bribing spree outlined above. Of course Joe Demby is one of the cheapest politicians in his position I've come across; so after conquering him, the others just fell in line - the Ministers, MPs, Journalists etc.
One person he couldn't crack was Pa Kabbah. As the person to whom the buck stopped, Pa Kabbah said NO!!
That was the position until the AFRC came in in 1997. What happened during that period I cannot tell although I am told Wanza was paid some money.
So what I want to tell Sierra Leoneans here is that Pa Kabbah, all politics aside, must be commended for the stand he took then against this canker worm of a Lebanese who doesn't even own a house in Salone and who believe we Saloneans are suckers.
Do you readers know how much some of these Lebanese guys have destroyed our country over the years?
I know of a $30,000,000 contract which I understand was awarded to 2 Lebanese by the last Govt for the construction of low-cost housing in the provinces.
Is anyone aware of low cost houses up country? No? Then it means they didn't perform. They paid the politicians who awarded them the contract and then they left the country as soon as they realised that the SLPP was losing the elections!
Would we let Wanza fry us in our own fat?
Saloneans who support Wanza are either ignorant about the facts of the matter, or they are part of the group he has bribed!!
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Detective
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Date Posted: 14:46:19 10/10/07 ()
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Wanza is lucky he was only refused entry.
I remember when a certain businessman (from Sweden?) tried to collect a large debt for OAU street lights from Pa Shaki's government. The poor man was welcomed then ambushed and shot near VP's office. Word was Jamil S. Mohamed imported gunmen to do the evil deed.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 11:20:59 10/10/07 ()
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Mr. Bah, your hatred for Mr. Wanza can be seen in your untruth narrative of the facts of the matter in the Community Court. Mr. Wanza is a businessman and was not a politician. The socalled bribes you talked about were initiated by our mendicants - from kabba to the lowest rank operative at the finance ministry. I know so many of you that benefitted from the wild goose chase of this debt we owed to Mr. Wanza. Let fair play be the game. I was privileged to have been involved in negotiating for the payment of this debt in 1998/9. He was contracted to supply goods and was not paid. he pursued every civil avenue and all he was getting was requests from the socalled people he sought helped from.
How many times did you try to collect money from mr. wanza - the earlier times you succeeded but he got fed up with your dcomings and goings without any hope for him to get his money. i know of other media houses that received up to $12,000.00 to help propagate his case but non was able to help him. He is a businessman and his origins should not be a ploy to distracts us from the true sense of the matter. We owe him and if we do not think we owe him - let the courts decide. he has taken the matter to a court that may help him.
Would you like to be a witness for our country and the the thief, kabba, that should have settled this problem before it got this far.
He gave Mr. wanza the assurance that he will pay whatever is due to him - this he said in a London closed encounter. Mr. Bah, it is time we respect the hard work of others - a thief can only come to steal from you if you are weak in body and mind. Your fingers should be pointing at our leaders and not Wanza. Wanza did not just buy the equipment - they were ordered and we did not have the resources then or if we had, we had a preconceived mental condition to dupe him.
I pray you to explain the real facts and not just gloss on the surface in defence of your disgraced myopic and callous kabba.
We shall be seeing more of these people he duped taking him to courts. They will see this case as a precedent to follow.
Do you know why Omrie Golley was arrested? It also had to do with this debt!
Why was Wanza banned from entering Sierra Leone? Shame!! They took so much from him and were too ashamed to see his face - so they arbitrarily udesd the laws to stop him from foerever entering. Nothing lasts forever. let the courts prove3 that we do not owe him!! Facts will help Mr. Bah.
It could be your Guinean cousin who is not a Sierra leonean like you!! Give to Caesar what is Caesar's. Do unto others as you would like others to do unto you!!
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 23:59:40 10/10/07 ()
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"for our country and the the thief, kabba"
Chez Winakabs of the SLPP is that you?
Wonders never cease ! How are the tables turned?
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 03:31:44 10/11/07 ()
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Message:
It is me Cornie, what do you mean by "How are the tables turned".
I have always mentained that I put my country above party politics. I'll await your response to go further.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: JOHN
To: All
Date Posted: 18:04:58 10/10/07 ()
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Message:
CHEZ,HOW MUCH DID WANZA PAID YUO FOR COMING TO HIS DEFENCE.IF YOU KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT THE CASE,CAN YOU PLEASE ANSWER THE FOLLOWING QUESTIOS
IS IT TRUE THAT THE BOAT COST WANZA $200,000?
WHY WAS HE ASKING THE SIERRA LEONE GOVT TO PAY $5,500.000 FOR THE SO CALL FAST BOAT.
PLEASE STOP EXPOSING YOUR TRUE UNPATRIOTIC,SELFISH AND NON-SIERRA LEONEAN SIDE.
HOW MUCH MARK-UP IS THAT?DO THE MATHS.I BELIEVE YOU ARE ONE OF WANZA'S AGENT OF BOY FRIEND
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 18:52:19 10/10/07 ()
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Message:
May God have mercy on you for calling me a faggot. The price quoted by mr. Bah is not true. I have never in my life accepted any bribe from anyone for doing that which is just. Show me a gun-boat that costs $200,000.00 in the early 90s?
I have a right to come to the defence of anyone whom in my belief is been treated unjustly. As stated, I was privileged to be partof a team that was trying to negotiated the payment of the sums owed to mr. Wanza. i have not met the man. he was in beirut when i saw the ducments on the debts owed to him by our government.
The matter is in the hands of the ECOWAS Community Court and sure hope the truth will come out. You are entitled to your opinion on the matter but I speak what i know and do not speculate or take everything others say about another.
I know I love my country and will be going home soon to at last attempt to serve my country.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Joseph
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Date Posted: 07:45:56 10/11/07 ()
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how much wanza bought the boat and how much are we paying him
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Tayyib Bah
To: All
Date Posted: 11:36:24 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: tayyibbah@btinternet.com
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Message:
Chez, I am sure you are mistaking me for my cousin Tayyib the Journalist.
I am the police Office who Alie Bangura ordered to be killed but by which time I had left Salone, in 1997.
I never tried to nor collected money from Wanza whom I cannot even separate from Adam.
but the fact of the matter is that Kabbah refused payment because Wanza bought the gun boat for $200,000 and wanted the Governkment to pay $5,000,000. Ar lie?
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 18:22:31 10/10/07 ()
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Message:
Wrong identity - so sorry!
One thing that is certain in the matter is that he supplied goods and was not paid. he dished out so much money demanded from him to help facilitate payment but was never paid and was threatened. I do not think such is a good way to deal with a hardworking businessman. Another guy lost his life because he could not face his creditors after being refused the contract promised him. Our past leaders have a lot to answer to the maker dfor their crimes against their people and hardworking businessmen/woment trying to participate in our socalled laissez-faire market economy.
I lost my Dutch friends because of a similar stunt pulled right in my face and my friends thought I was part of the scam.
take a look again at the whole matter and you will know what they did to wanza - they reduced the friend they once embraced to help them to a man of frustration and losing his purpose to himself, family and friends. The community court is his last hope.
I pray kabba's lies are made available to us all.
My dislike for Kabba stemmed from the day he lied to me about the Sierra leone High Commission in london we had at portland place. I asked him what he was doing about getting it back as it was there before some of us were born and it represented a very dignified status. He assured me niot to worry and that he has finished the final negotiations and it should be jhanded back to us when the building works are completed. the pathological lair looked me in the face and said those words and I trusted him.
God will not forgive kabba and his cronies that denied us the respect we once had when you strolled from regent street to enter our Portland Place mission house. A mere fifty thousand pounds cost us a building that is now worth over twelve million pounds sterling. I am short of words to describe kabba - all i pray now is to meet him in person and show him that he denied me and so many others the opportunity to be able to contribute in the improvement of our status symbol. You shall not have peace tejan kabba!!
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: sesay
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Date Posted: 07:53:02 10/11/07 ()
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how much wanza paid for the boat and how much was he selling the boat to Sierra Leone.CAN YOU PLEASE ANSWER THIS QUESTION SINCE YOU SAID YOU SAW THE DOCUMENTS.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 15:02:41 10/12/07 ()
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I was about to ask the same question. At the moment I'm not siding any party yet as I have very little or no knowledge of the so-called faracas.
But one thing should be made clear on how much the vessel was bought by Mr Wanza.
Chez, you seemed to have deeply involved with this palava, you saw documents of the deal so you must have had a glimpse of the purchase price on the documents, perhaps it's only you who could throw light to this.
Please put us out of this misery.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 17:59:02 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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If they had a signed contract, that's not Mr. Wanza's problem. As a businessman, it's his job to make money. As government officials, they should have done their homework before making any agreements. If a person is better at his or her job than you are, you can't get mad and refuse payment after you find out you've been outsmarted. If what you say is true about the stated price Mr. Wanza requested and if this amount was agree upon, then this is an example of poor governance.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 15:15:40 10/12/07 ()
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As a businessman, it's his job to make money
So even it involves manupilating others? I don't think its appropriate to dupe others just for the sake of making money. Everyone of us including yourself could be a victim of such actions.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Amie
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Date Posted: 07:59:10 10/11/07 ()
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you should be ashamed to call youself a Sierra Leonean don't you know that bribing a government official is a crime in the US.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 09:02:43 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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I don't have anything to be ashamed of. I'm speaking strictly about the legality of this issue and not the ethics. I don't like what has happened, but in order for this not to be a legally binding contract, the SaLone government will have to produce evidence that this was an ill gained contract. They will have to go beyond hearsay and speculation.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Tayyib Bah
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Date Posted: 19:13:42 10/10/07 ()
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Erica so you would have preferred Pa Kabbah to pay Wansa $5,000,000 of our money for a rotten gun boat he bought for $200,000? Just because some corrupt politicians were helping him to fleece the country? And you call that poor governance and not corruption!!
Erica, the likes of Mohamed Wansa are a blemish, a curse to blessed Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 21:26:08 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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You're missing the point. If he has a legal contract, that's binding. If people who were in a position of authority signed that contract, the government is obligated to pay. I'm not calling it good governance, but you can't refuse to pay a legal obligation because after the deal is made you feel like the price is not right. Crazy mark ups are not new. We hear reports of things like nails and toilet seats being extremely marked up here in the US. Is it on the seller or the buyers to have good stewardship over the government's money? Mr. Wanza was just doing what any businessman would do, he was trying to get the most money he could for his goods and services. It's not his responsiblity to be compassionate about the plight of Sierra Leone; that's what NGOs are for. If some corrupt Salone politicians were helping Mr. Wanza fleece the country and he has a legal contract, unfortunately Sierra Leone is going to have to pay its bill. I'm not saying this is right, I'm just talking about what is legal.
Subject: Re: Mohamed Wanza Vs The Govt of SL/Tejan Kabbah
From: john
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Date Posted: 18:11:17 10/10/07 ()
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Oh God! another Wanza's boyfriend.God help Salone.
Subject: RE: REV. KABS KANU CALLING THE SLPP A WORTHLESS PARTY?
From: Moses Kpaka
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Date Posted: 10:04:31 10/10/07 ()
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Welcome to the S.L.P.P. Forum
Re: Rev. Kabs Kanu Calling SLPP a Worthless Party?
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Posted by Moses Kpaka on October 10, 2007 at 10:01:29:
In Reply to: Rev. Kabs Kanu Calling SLPP a Worthless Party? posted by John Mannah on October 10, 2007 at 02:11:22:
"The SLPP's macroeconomic reforms and policies have been the best the country has ever witnessed in her entire existence on the planet." (John Mannah)
John Mannah, has the country existed anywhere other than the planet on which it exists now? If so, please state the name of that other planet(s). If not, what is the point of your unnecessary appendage of the phrase "on the planet" to your transparently false statement?
Does the word, redundant, mean anything to you, John Mannah? Or, is there no limit to your poor grasp of the English language, John Mannah?
Only someone who is unfamiliar with economics would describe the transparently failed policies of the internationally notorious, massively corrupt and incompetent SLPP regime of ex-President Ahmad Kabbah and Vice President Solomon Berewa as "best the country has ever witnessed ." By that standard, John Manah, you have demonstrated, using the very best evidence -- your own voluntarily written words -- that you are unfamiliar with the principles of economics of which you claim, in characteristic dishonesty, to be an expert.
The evidence of the SLPP's massive mismanagement of Salone is literally right there before the eyes of any minimally intelligent Sierra Leonean -- throughout the misrule of the SLPP, Sierra Leoneans lived without reliable electricity, potable water, sanitation. That has never been true of any previous government in the history of Sierra Leone. Worse still, throughout the incompetent and corrupt SLPP's rule, Sierra Leone was ranked dead last or second to last in each and every year of the UN's development index. Again, that had never happened under any government in the history of Sierra Leone.
In addition, during the SLPP's maladministration of SL, the country was so internationally notorious for its massive corruption that virtually all the major international donor agencies were unified in condemning the SLPP regime for its corruption. Those agencies included the UN (in May 2006) and the G8, the European Union, and the World Bank (at various times in 2005). Indeed, so pervasive and corrosive was the massive corruption of the SLPP regime of Kabbah and Berewa, that the international community denied the SLPP government's request first request for debt cancellation in 2005. Again, never before had any government in the history of Sierra Leone been denied debt relief, as the SLPP was in 2005, for massive corruption.
Yet, to add insult to the extensive and massive injury inflicted upon millions of Sierra Leoneans by the unpatriotic cabal of kleptomaniac and incompetent traitors of the people otherwise known as the members of the SLPP government of Kabbah and Berewa, Sierra Leone received more foreign aid during the rampage of the corrupt SLPP regime than all the aid received by previous governments combined.
In summary, the most corrupt and incompetent government in the history of Sierra Leone, the SLPP regime of Kabbah and Berewa, received the most foreign aid in the history of Sierra Leone.
Perhaps in correspondence courses taught at third rate colleges, such a dismal performance by the SLPP government over its decade of unprecedented mismanagement of Sierra Leone's economy, somehow, constitutes performance that is the "best the country has ever witnessed in her entire existence." However, those Sierra Leoneans who did not suffer the diminution of their mental capacities in a third rate college that offered correspondence course degrees in economics not worth the paper they are depicted on, know that, before the SLPP virtually destroyed Sierra Leone's economy, there was more reliable electricity, water, and sanitation services in Sierra Leone under the predecessor governments to the SLPP, including those, like the NPRC, which ruled during the rebel war.
Therefore, to state that the policies of the Kabbah-Berewa SLPP regime which drove the standard of living of millions of S/Leoneans to the bottom of the scale human civilization, are the "best the country has ever witnessed in her entire existence" as the demonstrably perennially dim-witted John Manah has stated, is conclusive evidence of his abysmal ignorance of economics, in general, and of the recent economic history of SL, in particular.
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Subject: REV. KABS KANU CALLING THE SLPP WORTHLESS ( Corrected)
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 01:39:24 10/11/07 ()
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Lets feel free to agree or disagree and argue our points without degenerating into unreasonable & abusive language.
Please excuse me, I’m writing this in a great hurry and will try to keep it as short as possible. I could sing some of the glories of the old SLPP…….but we are now living in the present and not the past.
Any student of Sierra Leone history will attest to the solid foundations on which the SLPP stands, and the important role that the SLPP played during the colonial era and right on leading to Independence, although Mr. Stevens the leader of the APC had a case for wanting Elections before Independence. The SLPP held the reigns of national affairs during the first three good years after independence, and the next three under Sir Albert Margai, right up to 1967 when for the first time in Africa, through peaceful ballot, the SLPP was at the point of relinquishing power to the APC who were appointed to form the next government. Unfortunately this was thwarted by a military intervention on behalf of the democratically defeated SLPP. Defeated at the polls and that military intervention is the origin of all our subsequent troubles. Yes, you can trace it all back to THAT.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=worthless%28+meaning+of&meta=
I too do not agree with descr1ption attributed to the SLPP by Rev. Kabs-Kanu. However I understand that in using such an adjective to register his extreme disappointment he must have exceeded the bounds set by all SLPP sympathisers, especially during their present period of mourning, having just lost both the Parliamentary and presidential elections to the people’s choice.
Here, Maurice Jones is echoing a similar sentiment shared by many destitute Sierra Leoneans who had reposed great hope in the SLPP. No electricity in Freetown. No light, no water. Some English-speaking men and women would also say that’s a worthless government and not be way off the mark either.
This made me angry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tl1Kfpw8j0
You mention that ”a government in power is just as good as the opposition it has. This is because without a strong, competent and hardworking opposition, the government in power in any democracy will not do well.”
I take this to mean that the APC which was in opposition 1996 – 2007 in no small way contributed to making the SLPP government as good as it was. And that without that strong APC. Opposition the SLPP performance would have been much worse. Is that what you meant?
If so it means that the SLPP in opposition is a vital function that will promote a superb performance from the APC, at least by keeping the APC government on its toes. It’s devoutly to be wished that the SLPP will provide the APC with a formidable opposition and to that end I can advice this:
Don’t pick up on each and every trivial matter to empty you canons of criticism on. It will be very much akin to the man that cried wolf and each time laughed, “April Fool!”
Save your shots for matters that are really important.
The APC did not get to win the election by jumping up and down in frenzied opposition each time that a pin dropped.
First build a credible opposition press which is more informative than it is stridently - and excessively opinionated. It is very off-putting to read meaningless exaggerations such as the one penned by messers Sankoh and Bah of the PDL.
As a concerned citizen I will always be on the side of truth and sympathetic and understanding about CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.
Your emphasis on SLPP greatness is heavily on the side of Economic progress, latterly with a growth rate of 7% annually. However that impressive figure did not turn the tide against the SLPP whose boat floundered on accusations of corruption. The annual growth rate could have been much more spectacular than 7% if that tide – of corruption had been stemmed.
There are many other areas of achievement that you do not mention, such as the emphasis on the education of the “girl-child”.
In a true national spirit we ought to support the efforts of the APC to improve the lot of the average Sierra Leonean, where the SLPP left off, to support and not sabotage such efforts.
We now also look forward to improvements on all fronts including sports and including Sierra Leone people living longer, happier and more fulfilling lives, so that father can sing to son:
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/c/cat+stevens/father+son_20028183.html
SLPP worldwide
http://www.hwforums.com/2195/messages/529.html
Subject: Re: RE: REV. KABS KANU CALLING THE SLPP A WORTHLESS PARTY?
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 01:01:04 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Lets feel free to agree or disagree and argue our points without degenerating into unreasonable & abusive language.
Please excuse me, I’m writing this in a great hurry and will try to keep it as short as possible. I could sing some of the glories of the old SLPP…….but we are now living in the present and not the past.
Any student of Sierra Leone history will attest to the solid foundations on which the SLPP stands, and the important role that the SLPP played during the colonial era and right on leading to Independence, although Mr. Stevens the leader of the APC had a case for wanting Elections before Independence. The SLPP held the reigns of national affairs during the first three good years after independence, and the next three under Sir Albert Margai, right up to 1967 when for the first time in Africa, through peaceful ballot, the SLPP was at the point of relinquishing power to the APC who were appointed to form the next government. Unfortunately this was thwarted by military intervention on behalf of the democratically defeated SLPP. Defeated at the polls and that military intervention is the origin of all our subsequent troubles. Yes, you can trace it all back to THAT.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=worthless%28+meaning+of&meta=
I too do not agree with descr1ption attributed to the SLPP by Rev. Kabs-Kanu. However I understand that in using such an adjective to register his extreme disappointment he must have exceeded the bounds set by all SLPP sympathisers, especially during their present period of mourning, having just lost both the Parliamentary and presidential elections to the people’s choice.
Here, Maurice Jones is echoing a similar sentiment shared by many destitute Sierra Leoneans who had reposed great hope in the SLPP. No electricity in Freetown. NO light, no water. Some English-speaking men and women would also say that’s a worthless government and not be way off the mark either.
This made me angry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Tl1Kfpw8j0
You mention that”a government in power is just as good as the opposition it has. This is because without a strong, competent and hardworking opposition, the government in power in any democracy will not do well.”
I take this to mean that the APC which was in opposition 1996 – 2007 in no small way contributed to making the SLPP government as good as the APC. Is that what you meant?
If so it means that the SLPP in opposition is avatar function that will promote good performance from the APC, at least by keeping the APC government on its toes. It’s devoutly to be wished that the SLPP will provide the APC with a formidable opposition and to that end I can advice this:
Don’t pick up on each and every trivial matter to empty you barrels of criticism on. It will be very much akin to the man that cried wolf and laughed “April Fool!”
Save your shots fro matters that are really important.
The APC did not get to win the election by jumping up and down in frenzied opposition each time that a pin dropped.
First build a credible opposition press which is more informative than it is stridently - and excessively opinionated. It is very off putting to read meaningless exaggerations such as the one penned by messers Sankoh and Bah of the PDL.
AS a concerned citizen I will always be on the side of truth and sympathetic and understanding about CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM.
Your emphasis on SLPP greatness is heavily on the side of Economic progress, lastly with a growth rate of 7% annually. However impressive figure did not turn the tide against the SLPP whose boat floundered on accusations of corruption. The annual growth rate could have been much more spectacular than 7% if that tide – of corruption had been stemmed.
There are many other areas of achievement that you do not mention, such as the emphasis on the education of the “girl-child”.
IN a true national spirit we ought to support the efforts of the SLPP to improve the lot of the average Sierra Leonean, where the SLPP left off, to support and not sabotage such efforts.
WE now also look forward to improvement on all fronts including sports and including Sierra Leone people living longer, happier and more fulfilling lives, so that Father can sing to son:
http://www.lyricsfreak.com/c/cat+stevens/father+son_20028183.html
SLPP worldwide
http://www.hwforums.com/2195/wwwboard.cgi
Subject: Re: RE: REV. KABS KANU CALLING THE SLPP A WORTHLESS PARTY?
From: T.Cole
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Date Posted: 16:23:27 10/10/07 ()
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John Mannah, has the country existed anywhere other than the planet on which it exists now? If so, please state the name of that other planet(s). If not, what is the point of your unnecessary appendage of the phrase "on the planet" to your transparently false statement? ---Moses Kpaka
Hey Moses, that is too, too funny! LOL
Subject: Re: RE: REV. KABS KANU CALLING THE SLPP A WORTHLESS PARTY?
From: Shembu
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Date Posted: 10:51:23 10/10/07 ()
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I read today's editorial and I am APC and not SLPP. But I disagree with the Hon. Rev. Kabbs-Kanu's depiction of the SLPP. For the sake of reconciliation, we must hence forth stop using demeaming adjectives to describe each other's political affiliation. Calling the SLPP a worthless party is totally un-called for and maybe irresponsible.
May be the Reverend is calling for attacks from the irresponsible folks on the other side of the fence by engaging in meaningless name calling. I hope he did that in error and not purposefully.
Subject: Re: RE: REV. KABS KANU CALLING THE SLPP A WORTHLESS PARTY?
From: Eku
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Date Posted: 18:02:11 10/12/07 ()
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I see most folks here may have forgotten that it was the corrupt, undemocratic and one-party rule of the APC that brought Sa Lone to where it is today.
I think this new government should not only go after those who just got booted out, but also investigate back to the time of APC corruption and meltdown of the country.
Subject: Re: RE: REV. KABS KANU CALLING THE SLPP A WORTHLESS PARTY?
From: Tunde
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Date Posted: 16:19:31 10/10/07 ()
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Shembu, before there can be reconciliation, there must be accountability. The slpp must be held accountable. after the commissiond of enquory are finished, and any one who is found guilty has paid the price, then we can have reconciliation. but not before.
all this talk about in the spirit of reconciliation is jazz. the people demand accountability from those who mlooted their money and kept them in the dark at night, without electricity during the day, and got fat and rich from impoverishing the people.
Subject: AND REV.KABS KANU IS AN OBJECTIVE JOURNALIST
From: okdok
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Date Posted: 13:07:56 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Rev. personally hate SLPP from the go.
Subject: THE COME BACK KID!
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 03:46:50 10/10/07 ()
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PMDC grabbed four top ministerial posts. Is Charles Margia running the
country behind the scene?
Subject: Re: THE COME BACK KID!
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 07:44:35 10/10/07 ()
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Its possible that the Prez is just honouring his part of a deal made before the runoff. Who knows what was discussed. They said APC/PMDC coalition
Subject: A View From The Islamic World 2
From: UK5
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Date Posted: 03:45:45 10/10/07 ()
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Man enters a forum to make his own little contribution on the new APC government's appointment of cabinet. Gave his opinion like everybody else! Islam and the perception of the Arabs on African governments was amply featured in his point. Never did he advocate for a total flooding of Islamic fundamentalists in his beloved land. God forbid! Lost his beloved grandmother in the rebel war. Never wished for anymore mayhem in his fatherland. Just expressing what he thought to be a point of concern. Freedom of expression, ain't it! Subject may be loudly discussed in our local circles even in Sierra Leone - perhaps within the people concerned! Just a point of observation for God's sake! In fact, President Koroma must have heard him, for indeed, he responded well.
Shocking to see fellow netters take man's contribution way out of context. Considering themselves to be more Sierra Leoneans than him? Coming from different worlds, expressing ideas from a different perspective, man was just being informative! Man has always been taking his role as a good Ambassador. Conveyed what the Arabs wish, and tried to portray, quite distinctively, what we stand for as a nation. Man even gave a short line as a sample of the usual response he gives that preserves his country's identity and independence. Will they mind reading his piece again? No! Too intoxicated with election victory, it's now 'Zero Tolerance' for another person's view. Should have asked for more samples, if they wish to know more. But, emotionally constipated, blinded by the anxiety to hastily make negative comments, the generation of vagabonds appear to be unrepentant for insulting a man of peace. A whole goddamn week has passed!
And indeed, the Holy Month of Ramadan shall come to pass. He shall perhaps be more expressive. Just a couple of days more, Sylvia Blyden will be a distant joke.
Subject: Re: A View From The Islamic World 2
From: sid
To: All
Date Posted: 18:54:30 10/10/07 ()
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MAN, Am I the only person that sense a pattern of constrain in your writing, trying to keep your emotions in check, nonetheless we are the once that are emotionally constipated with no brains.
Obviously you have some excellent language skills, impressive article, I am sure many agreed with you but did not respond, keep in mind that the majority of responds come from when someone disagreed with an issue.
If you may recall I am one of those that disagreed and responded. Evidently I find your observations reasonable, but your analysis are antiquated and ostracized, if allowed to thrive will be very unprogressive.
Subject: Re: A View From The Islamic World 2
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:37:54 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator6071.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.181.216
Message:
Man if you are planning to go to war after Ramzan,then you have fasted for no good.How can you restrain yourself for thirty days and decide to go back to your old ways after?
If you believe you can come to this forum and bash people and get away with it,you need to think again because the regulars here are no strangers to external attacks and will be waiting for you.
If you are confident you can put up a good fight and win, then you will be sadly disappointed because you will be overwhelmed with the strongest resistance ever!
The best thing you can do is to make people understand your position and try to be convincing that they got your message wrong.But it will be a herculean task for you to be that convincing when the message itself was self-explanatory and smacked of threats.If your views reflected those of any islamic organisation,then you guys better fine-tune your plans or else you will be considered extremists which I have tried to avoid.
Subject: Re: A View From The Islamic World 2
From: UK5
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Date Posted: 08:13:40 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
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Your piece was good but you seem to have got it all wrong in just one aspect. Ain't anticipating to put up a good fight as if I'm going to be graded. Just intend to be agile and tactful in my self defense. This issue of being traditionally perceived as a straightjacket Mullah sometimes gives others the audacity to be offensive when replying to one's postings. An enigma raises curiosity. Once the idea is established that the Mullah has the potential of 'poking fingers' in self defense, the ideal atmosphere of mutual civility might prevail in discussions.
Subject: Re: A View From The Islamic World 2
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 09:16:11 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator6071.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.181.216
Message:
Actually what I would like you to do is to present your views or arguments tactfully as you have mentioned.Refrain from any agressiveness or threats or insolence;be tolerant and patient.People have different perception of things and so respond differently too.Always leave room for discussion.Don't feel offended by any negative post and don't be hindered by that.There must be people who will see some thing positive in what you are trying to say.If you are going to counter anybody's opinion do it such that the person will have no room to maneuvre but to capitulate or subscribe to your opinion.
Subject: Re: A View From The Islamic World 2
From: UK5
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Date Posted: 12:01:39 10/10/07 ()
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AAAAAY O'LANGBA! Enough of your sermon! There's a renown misconception among the majority of you folks living in the west that we are all embroiled in the 9/11 ideology, simply beause we live in the Arab world. I never said that all you guys stink because you take care of old people in nursing homes. You guys waste no time to jump into conclusions that my posting smacks of funlamentalist ideology. The first narrow-minded peacock that replied to my posting called me a bigot. I was going to ridicule the hell out of him, but I had a change of heart.
I can't be held responsible if some people just can't understand my posting. If the approach is inviting for a debate, then the devil in man will go hiding. But if their's is agressive, arrogantly yet unjustifialby condemning, then I had to just go silent. You can easily read from the stuff they post and deduce their mindset. But I can't keep silent forever. Gotta let them know that we all have a devil in us. We all just try to pacify it [the devil] with a civilized exposition.
Subject: Re: A View From The Islamic World 2
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 01:31:41 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
Lol! ROTFLMAO! Don't get me started! I have only done what I believe should be done.If you consider it a sermon so be it as you are entitled to your opinions.
And please it is derogatory to address me as Orlangba.Next time you either address me as 'KORTHOR' or ENGINEER.
Boy it is better to take care of the elderly in western nursing homes(which in itself is an islamic duty)than to be a docile arab bootlicker which is the most horrible thing to do.
Now going back to your first thread where you thought side-lining muslims for cabinet or diplomatic positions will be a cause for concern for the islamic world,if you have been following events that have recently unfolded in the political arena,you must have heaved a sigh of relief.With a muslim woman slated to head the foreign ministry and about three or four muslim men slated to head other ministries like mines,justice,presidential affairs etc.,I believe your fears of reducing muslim influence or marginalizing muslims are now allayed. I beleive you must be happy too to read on this site yesterday that the imams paid a courtesy call on the prezo at state house where he assured them of full support in all spheres compatible with his vision of a new Salone. You should know that even though the prezo is a christian, he has a very strong islamic background.He is well aware of islamic values and the contribution of the islamic world to the development of Salone.He knows Salone is a member of the 55-member strong OIC.
So UK5 THE LOVER it is hightime we put this issue to rest and think of another view from the islamic world and this time let it be more social than political.
Subject: Re: A View From The Islamic World 2
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 12:39:07 10/10/07 ()
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UK5, I must admit I like your agility of prose and language. You are, no doubt, talented with the quill. Post your piece and do not be unnecessarily agitated by the emotion it invokes in others, for that, my brother, is the democratic way. When all is said and done, it is your choice to stick to them guns or beat them into agricultural plows. It's all good, my bro. I look forward to reading and reacting to your posts without rancor in my heart.
All the best,
Kabudu!
Subject: Ms. Zainab Bangura, minister of Foreign Affairs & Intl Co-op
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 02:36:17 10/10/07 ()
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A Profile of Ms. Zainab Bangura, minister of Foreign Affairs and International Co-operation.
A profile of Sierra Leone’s Zainab Bangura
- Wednesday 10 October 2007.
By Osman Benk Sankoh.
It was a late evening Sierra Leone’s Independence Day party in the Liberian capital, Monrovia. A lot of Sierra Leonean expatriates working with the UN systems in that country were around. The DJ with much unbridled gusto was dishing out intercontinental tracks that kept every one present permanently on the stage dancing. From Congo to California and Manila to Siberia, the DJ was just reeling out the very best of soundtracks that the world could offer.
Soon, it was the turn of our own Emerson Bockarie’s ‘Tutu party’ to be unleashed from the DJ’s jukebox. The atmosphere erupted into an explosive musical volcano as Sierra Leoneans as well as their Liberian hosts and other internationals, ran helter-skelter, grabbed colleagues or companions and moved on stage to display their dancing talents.
On the dance floor that night was a prominent Sierra Leonean who had just relocated to Liberia to work with the UN peacekeeping Mission. Forget at least for a second that she was a presidential aspirant in the 2002 polls, don’t mention also that she has been a civil society activist all her life and also, one very prominent in being among others; a human rights defender, an anti-corruption crusader and even a chartered insurer like President Koroma ; Zainab Hawa Bangura was on stage doing justice to ‘Tutu Party’ much to the envy of those present .Her prized art of dancing that night could have made Beyonce and Shakira look like apprentices.
Amidst the resounding applause she and her team received after dancing to ‘Tutu Party’, the floor was now set to talk about politics back home. Some people were curious to know if Zainab was ever going to enter the presidential race in the not too distant future. Particularly of concern were also rumours that PMDC’s Charles Margai had tipped her to be his running mate.
Well, if they were expecting answers in the affirmative, they were in for a rude shock. Zainab never traded her smiles for clues on her political future. For the young lady who was just beginning her UN career, her major preoccupation was how she was going to make a difference in her new capacity as Chief of Civil Affairs, provide motherly love to her son who was wrapping up studies at the university of Sierra Leone and of course, love and affection for her dear husband.
However, none of the above could stop tongues wagging her name as amongst those fit for governance. Even without being in the political limelight in the run-up to the just concluded polls, Zainab, it was believed and widely discussed, has something innate in her that the country could benefit from.
And so, when it was time for discussions in the court of public opinion on Koroma’s possible cabinet, the rumour mill started flowing left, right and center. While others openly vowed that they were privy to Koroma’s list in which Zainab’s name had already been ticked for the Finance Ministry, others swore on oath that they can authoritatively confirm that Koroma had already earmarked her for the Foreign office. State House sources, according to a local daily also mentioned her as a possible cabinet appointee.
While all this was going on, Zainab, who is so passionate about her UN job, didn’t allow this to bother her. She never commented one bit on these speculations and thus, when she received a call from His Excellency late one evening while in the UK for vacation and exactly a few hours after she was guest at a BBC Network Africa Breakfast show, Her Royal Highness (apologies, a BBC texter) knew exactly where the conversation with the ‘Obai’ was going to end. It was a less than three minutes call but H.E’s request was simple, “Zainab, I want you to consider coming back home to serve your people and in my government as Foreign Affairs Minister,” the President was said to have said and now by her name being on the list of cabinet appointees, it goes without saying that Zainab Hawa Bangura must have consented even though it would have meant holding a mini domestic conference first with her husband and son on whether to serve or not to serve.
Though she always considers herself, “an African Muslim woman, a first generation to be educated in my family,” Zainab, like many women then, started life the very hard way.
Born December 18, 1959, at age 12, she already knew how to perfectly take care of a family. This, it was believed was imbibed in her by her Muslim cleric father and mother, who, though never darkened the doors of school, wanted their only daughter to be a shining light for the family.
In her mid 30’s, she was chasing men with AK- 47s, mortars and RPGs out of power for the restoration of democracy. In her early 40’s, she had a go at the highest office in the land and though, unsuccessful, she left an indelible impression that gone are the days when women were only relegated to the kitchen while politics was a sport for men only.
And if failure then was just an added impetus to her aspiration for higher heights, Zainab quickly rekindled her efforts and all of a sudden, what she failed in getting as president quickly came to pass when she started wining and dining with Presidents, Princes and Princesses and even Queens and Kings.
A few days ago, she was (of course, she must be cleaning her closet in the UN now) an egg head with the status of a Director(D-1) working with the United Nations Mission in Liberia where she heads the largest Section in the mission, Civil Affairs with oversight responsibilities on all government ministries in that country and today, Madam Bangura, who established and transformed notable institutions like Campaign For Good Governance(CGG) and the anti corruption watchdog, National Accountability Group(NAG) into household names within and without the country is planning on re-energizing her efforts in being the country’s face on the international scene.
If confirmed in parliament, Zainab will be the second female the country has ever had in that capacity after Madam Shirley Gbujama.
Believed to be the blue eyed girl of the International community, Zainab, just like Koroma himself started life as a Chartered Insurer at the National Insurance Company. She was later to cross path with Koroma again when she joined the former at the Reliance Insurance Trust Corporation (RITCORP). Though the new president was her immediate supervisor at RITCORP, little I am sure, Zainab would have imagined that she was ever going to work with Koroma at a time like this and indeed, as the President’s trusted appointee in charge of Foreign Affairs.
Like Koroma again, Zainab started schooling at the Magburaka Government Secondary School for Girls (Mathora)(which is the feamle companion of the Magburaka Secondary School for Boys, the school Ernest Koroma attended) in 1971 and by 1976, she had attained the status of Senior Prefect.
At The Annie Walsh Memorial Secondary School (AWMS), Zainab, in 1979 won accolades for proficiency and reliability, an enviable record that has always been hugely contested for in that institution.
After her undergraduate studies at Fourah Bay College, the UN diplomat did her post-graduate studies at the Nottingham University and the City University Business School also in the UK. A former Reagan- Fascell Democracy Fellow at NED (National Endowment for Democracy), the qualified chartered insurer also serves as member for various international organizations including the steering committee of the World Movement for Democracy, Foundation for West Africa, OSIWA and the International Crisis Group in Brussels. She also has an outstanding relationship with Transparency International.
Zainab has also served as consultant for notable UN institutions like UNDP and UNHCR among others. Madam Bangura has also received various awards nationally and internationally on Human Rights, Democracy and Good Governance for her work in Sierra Leone including at the United States Congress in June last year, which also saw her making a visit to the Oval office to meet with President George W Bush.
Believed to be a close friend to Africa’s first female President, Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, the Foreign Affairs designate has travelled extensively in all five continents and also has as friends, several Heads of State and government. This and other extensive international contacts she has are valuable assets she could infuse into her new foreign job.
Madam Bangura first came into public reckoning in 1996, when she, together with other unarmed women challenged the then NPRC regime at the various Bintumani Conferences with her voice being the loudest amongst those calling for the military to go back to the barracks and hand power to the politicians, through the ballot box.
Her role, even as a refugee in Guinea during the 1997 interregnum is all there to see and even read. She was a constant face in the premises of the US State Department and UN headquarters in New York lobbying for support in her die-hard quest for the restoration of ‘constitutional order.’ She was also a major power broker during the various peace negotiations that were held between the government and the then rebel Revolutionary United Front (RUF) outfit.
Undoubtedly, Zainab, like a child who knows how to wash her hands clean and eat with ‘Obais’, has etched her name both within and without the walls of Sierra Leone. Though only for a short while, she is leaving an indelible imprint on the operations of her Civil Affairs Section, believed to be the most complex and biggest not only in the UN mission in Liberia but for all peacekeeping missions the world over.
She took care of 16 government Ministries and 30 government agencies and public corporations. Though she will greatly be missed by her UN colleagues, Zainab is surely going to be an asset to the new government in terms of rebuilding the image of the country and resource mobilization in order to meet the great expectations of President Koroma’s victory. Because she has also travelled to every nook and cranny of the country to raise funds and had supported a lot of women’s organizations, Zainab will surely be of help in healing the wounds created by a very bitter just ended electioneering process. Her pastimes are, reading and regular workouts in the gym. Ladies and gentlemen, let’s welcome Madam Bangura to our Foreign Affairs ministry!
Photo: Zainab Bangura and US president George Bush.
A profile of Sierra Leone’s Zainab Bangura
http://www.thepatrioticvanguard.com/article.php3?id_article=1868
Subject: Lost Daughter
From: Kabba Sorie Sillah
To: All
Date Posted: 12:08:57 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: udattakeam@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 12.16.8.5
Message:
Hello All,
I need help in locating my daughter. Her name is Fatmatta Sillah, and her mother's maiden name is Augusta Sombo Faya. The last I heard was that they were residing either in Maryland or Minnesota. Please if you have any information email me at the above address or call me directly 301-674-0314.
Thanks.
Subject: Re: Ms. Zainab Bangura, minister of Foreign Affairs & Intl Co-op
From: KLA
To: All
Date Posted: 14:32:54 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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"Indeed, Zainab Bangura, the only female presidential candidate to challenge President Kabbah's successful bid for a second term in 2002, blames her poor showing in the election on a malicious rumour that she opposed female circumcision. She got less than one percent of the vote.
Ms Bangura, who now runs an anti-corruption watchdog organisation called the National Accountability Group, admits that she almost bled to death while undergoing circumcision as a teenager, but refuses to condemn the practice or the secret societies that enforce it.
It would be impossible for any uncircumcised woman to be elected in Sierra Leone, because she would be unable to win votes in the interior, Ms Bangura told 'IRIN'. "A woman from Freetown and the Western Area would get no chance to be a successful politician if she were not part of a secret society," Ms Bangura explained. "Those of us who joined the society are expected to support it - we cannot stand out and criticise it, otherwise you will be sidelined by the family," she added.
One will hope that Ms.Zainab Bangura TAKES a more DIPLOMATIC position on the issue FGM, when she becomes the Diplomatic face of Sierra LEONE.
It will be prudent to confirm her words as quoted on the linked site below. The Global Feminists and Female rights advocates will certainly have some questions for her.
tstm
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Subject: Re: Ms. Zainab Bangura, minister of Foreign Affairs & Intl Co-op
From: SAVE SA LONE
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Date Posted: 11:25:35 10/10/07 ()
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Zainab was one of the people who was involved in the brutal killings of 2 gentlemen burn to death in front of the Law Court building,Freetown.She was among the people calling patriotic sierra leoneans Junta collaborators sending innocent people to their graves.Please lets ask all the nenessary questions before it is too late.
Subject: Re: Ms. Zainab Bangura, minister of Foreign Affairs & Intl Co-op
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 06:12:26 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
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Good job, Benk. I am positive that Zainab will perform.Congratulations on your recent appointment, Mrs. Bangura
Subject: Re: Ms. Zainab Bangura, minister of Foreign Affairs & Intl Co-op
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 04:27:24 10/10/07 ()
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Message:
Thanks for sharing Zainab’s achievements and qualifications. What an
impressive background; she seems to have national and international
political clout. But the question remains, will she deliver in this
capacity? Don’t forget that the ministry of Foreign Affairs is no joke.
She will be the face of Sierra Leone in the international community and
task with many responsibilities to name a few, luring investors to
Freetown, seeking international aids, and leveraging political resources
around world to help with the rebuilding process.
We have seen many political appointees over the years with impressive
resumes, but when it was time to deliver, they were lame duck.
Out of curiosity, how many international languages is she fluent in?
I am going to be optimistic and not to prejudge her or make any
assertion. We will keep the magnifying glass on her.
Subject: Re: Ms. Zainab Bangura, minister of Foreign Affairs & Intl Co-op
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 10:20:37 10/10/07 ()
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Of course she will deliver. She's an excellent choice...could be the next president of Sierra
Leone and there she would deliver too.
Subject: Watch Out! Here they come with hypocrisy - TEGLOMA
From: Watch man
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Date Posted: 00:31:19 10/10/07 ()
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I am amazed to see the most tribalistic group (tegloma) who were and are still trying to destroy the country with their divisive rhetoric is now praising the very party they dehumanized few days ago. There are people in the tegloma group who always argues that the group is for every sierra Leonean and is not politically one sided. Contrary to this claim, I have seen a double standard. Sylvester Johnny a member of tegloma, Alieu sesay, Alpha Saidu B, John E. Leigh, and a host of others are tegloma fanatics who were calling their parents and family members back home and told them that the APC is coming to get them. In 2002, tegloma spent according to Lansana Nyallay, $43,000 on SLPP and ZERO dollars on other parties. In the recent election tegloma is one of the financial sources of the SLPP and most of its members openly threatened the APC.
All of a sudden, tegloma is praising the APC government. What's going on here. Ernest, watch out. They are coming to destroy you.
Subject: Re: TEGLOMA IS OPEN TO ALL SIERRA LEONEANS
From: Sylvester Johnny
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Date Posted: 13:01:37 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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THESE STATEMENTS ARE NOT THE OFFICIAL VIEWS OF THE TEGLOMA INTERNATIONAL FEDERATION INC. AND ITS CONSISTENT CHAPTERS.These views are mine as an active member of Tegloma.
Sylvester Johnny is not only a member of Tegloma but he is the FINANCIAL SECRETARY of Tegloma International Federation . I am proud of my membership of Tegloma and I will encourage all meaningful Sierra Leonean to join one of our chapters.Please contact me if you need information of the chapter representatives in your area.
Tegloma is a NON POLITICAL organization that is open to all Sierra Leoneans. We do not support any particular candidate or political party. We are a 501(c)(3) organization with 23 chapters in the United States, Canada, UK/Ireland and Sierra Leone. Our membership spans across geographical boundaries, tribe and origin. Our Delaware chapter is headed by a TEMNE woman, the Houston chapter is headed by a Liberian married to a Sierra Leonean and other chapters like Arizona etc have members who are Temnes. The Georgia chapter has two Cameroonian citizens. Recently Tegloma has provided scholarship to the best WASCE and BECCE students in the North, South, East and West of Sierra Leone. We have acquired a land in Bo to develop a project for the benefit of the people of Sierra Leone. No one benefit from his/her membership of Tegloma other than giving back to their communities and Sierra Leone. Tegloma is the only Sierra Leonean organization that has existed for 32 years.
Tegloma believes that we are above petty politics and therefore we are supportive of the new government. We are not forming an allegiance with APC as some of you or the media are portraying. We are ready to work with the government of the day to help improve the lives of the average Sierra Leonean. It is untrue to say that Tegloma provided financial support to the SLPP in the last election. Some members of Tegloma are either members or sympathizers of the SLPP. We have members who are also APC or PMDC. I for one do not want appointment from the current government. I am not a supporter of APC and I do not see myself doing so very easily. I have praised EBK for appointing David Carew as Finance Minister and I will provide support in other ways to help my fellow Sierra Leoneans. For those who care to know. I have been in professional practice since 1993 even though I am still very young. I received my ACCA qualification in 1997, worked as Financial Controller in The Gambia from 1998-2001 and I curently manage a department of 6 with a budget of over $5M as Senior Finance Manager. I am also very active in United Way activities in the Bay area.
Subject: Re: TEGLOMA IS OPEN TO ALL SIERRA LEONEANS
From: John E. Leigh
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Date Posted: 15:52:37 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear Mr. Sylvester Johnny:
I am delighted to learn from your posting that Tegloma is now open to all Sierra Leoneans regardless of tribal language. This was not the case during the early part of my tenure as ambassador in DC.
Then, I had cause to review the Tegloma Constitution prior to attending one of its functions in Philadelphia as their invited guest of honor. During this review, I concluded that only Mende-speakers are qualified to become members of Tegloma. I then raised this issue as not an ideal constitutional requirement during my visit. A key Tegloma leader – then and now - took umbrage at that my innocent, helpful comment and to this day I have a distant relationship with him although I hold absolutely no grudges.
I also understand that tribal superiority complex by Eastern elements of Tegloma and their block voting were so severe that the organization split into two and Bondaysiah for Tegloma dissidents, mostly Southerners, was born.
Tegloma is also closely associated with the SLPP. They’ve contributed financially to the party; they as listed in official party records as a party support organization and in this capacity are allocated seats and voting rights at SLPP conventions including the notorious Makeni Nominating ConBention of September 2005.
In my view, there is absolutely nothing wrong with a non-tribal Tegloma having a close organizational association with the SLPP. Nor is there anything improper about Tegloma’s leaders pledging their organization’s and their own personal loyalty and support to the NEW APC government of the day. Thank you for your attention. - JL
Subject: Re: TEGLOMA IS OPEN TO ALL SIERRA LEONEANS
From: Sylvester Johnny
To: All
Date Posted: 16:41:09 10/10/07 ()
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Message:
Tegloma as an organization has evolved a lot since its establishment in 1975.In a recent CD project with Sierra Leone musicians, the Chairman of Tegloma International Federation clearly indicated that Tegloma is NON POLITICAL and our current constitution adopted at the mini convention in May 2007 clearly illustrates that. We are a 501(c)(3) organization with requirements form IRS. I do not know of any organization called BONDAYSIAH. The organization may have contributed to the SLPP cause in the past but no more. We refused to support our past president (Lansana Nyallay) when he went to declare for SLPP leadership. The SLPP party may have to update their records, we are not required to have a seat as a delegate in any party convention. That will be against IRS requirements.
Our inauguration dance is scheduled to be in New England. I would appreciate if you could attend. It is just next door to you. I could also ask the chapter representatives out there to contact you.
As you know, I am actively involved in organizing the SLPP party in North America. This effort has no bearing with my role in Tegloma.
Subject: Re: TEGLOMA IS OPEN TO ALL SIERRA LEONEANS
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:33:12 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dear Mr. Johnny:
I very much appreciate your excellent explanation and look forward to a Sierra Leonean organization whose membership is open equally to all Sierra Leoneans regardless of tribe. I also hope that when elections are held in Tegloma the officer corps will be representative of Tegloma's national membership.
With regard to the instant posting by Sabanoh, I am aware that Tegloma contributed funds to help provide sustenance to the exiled government of Tejan Kabbah in Conakry in 1997, an act I aplauded.
I also know that the Kamajors played an exemplary role is freeing our country from violent coupligans and rebels. But for the Kamajors, our country could have been a vassal state under the control of Charles Taylor and Blaise Campore with Foday Sankoh and Maskita as their puppets. However, there were excesses committed by retrogade CDF members who defied Chief Hinga Norman's leadership and went on to committ atrocities against innocent civilians - including their own very people - as well as stole property from poor people.
Lets hope that our country will no longer suffer from poor governance. Thank you. - JL
PS: Please keep me informed about your activities in New England. Thanks.- JL
Subject: Re: TEGLOMA IS OPEN TO ALL SIERRA LEONEANS
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 18:28:58 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
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Message:
I have never met a liar like you, you know that the Tegloma club was created by the mendes for the mendes. When the war was at its height Tegloma was supporting Hinga Norman who was the head of the kamajor. Tegloma held fund raisings in the major cities to give money to Hinga Norman to buy weapons to kill non mendes. Hinga was your hero and he was arrested with the help of Kabba because even Kabba was at awe at what this coward was doing to innocent people. Its a shame he is not alive today so he could be given the "Doe Treatment". Lonta.
Subject: Re: Watch Out! Here they come with hypocrisy - TEGLOMA
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:48:38 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Message:
Once again and for the information of all I, John E. Leigh, am NOT a member of Tegloma, never have and I have no intention to be. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: Watch Out! Here they come with hypocrisy - TEGLOMA
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 02:21:26 10/10/07 ()
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Message:
You made some interesting points regarding the sincerity of some of
the political groups. Majority of the political/action groups in
Freetown support the party of the day. It has been going on for
decades; the Tegloma situation is not a unique one.
We have to put our tribal differences aside and work for the betterment
of the country and her populace. The bottom line is the people are
suffering – basic necessities are lacking. Ernest needs to surround
himself with people of like minds - integrity, leadership acumen,
politically savvy, experience and are willing to put the interest of the
country first. All these groups and individuals dashing to Freetown to
seek political appointments or government contracts is for their own
interest.
My fellow Sierra Leoneans let the past be the past. Lets work together
for the betterment of the country and her people. We should set aside
our differences and vindictiveness for the sake of harmony and
prosperity for our beloved Sierra Leone. Ernest should appoint
individuals that have the country at heart and are capable of doing the
job regardless of what side of the political aisle they are on.
Subject: What are the functions of the Minister of Finance?
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 00:19:16 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: saigobe@lanset.com
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Message:
Forumites:
What are the functions/duties/roles of Minister of Finance?
Subject: Re: What are the functions of the Minister of Finance?
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 10:37:39 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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Message:
Uncle Yaya, the function for the minister of Finance is to be an intermediary between his minister and Cabinet and parliament.
Subject: Re: What are the functions of the Minister of Finance?
From: Bangura is wrong
To: All
Date Posted: 10:53:16 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
You failed to answer the man's qu. You are a fool forever and not fit to be imam.
Subject: Re: What are the functions of the Minister of Finance?
From: azz
To: All
Date Posted: 02:11:48 10/11/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
well, what are the functions of an imam? answer dat ba.
Subject: Re: What are the functions of the Minister of Finance?
From: Nar Sabi Talk
To: All
Date Posted: 09:25:17 10/10/07 ()
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*Oversees the country's financial and monetary policies and monitors the implementation thereof by competent agencies.
*Prepares the country's general budget, discuss it with other government agencies, and monitors the implementation thereof.
*Maintains the records of all current accounts between the Ministry and other government agencies.
*Controls the antecedent prior to expending from budget allocat1on in all government agencies.
*Oversees the country's revenue gathering procedures and ensures the conformity of these procedures with the established set of regulations and bylaws.
*Oversees finalization of the governments' annual closing accounts record of expenditures.
*Supervises and maintains government properties.
*Represents the country to international and regional economic and financial organizations, pursue financial and economic information worldwide, and prepare the necessary studies and reports connected therewith.
*Gives effect to the country's decisions regarding foreign aid.
*Implements the country's policy with respect to granting loans to Sierra Leonean citizens and businesses in different development areas through the commercial banks and the specialized credit institutions.
Subject: Re: What are the functions of the Minister of Finance?
From: fact
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Date Posted: 02:14:19 10/11/07 ()
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Message:
wow, dis na di most difficult ministry.
Subject: Re: What are the functions of the Minister of Finance?
From: Sylvester Johnny
To: All
Date Posted: 13:10:05 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
A very good try.90-95% right
Subject: Prof Joko Smart Stashes 89 Million Leones,
From: DIAMINT PEDDLER
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Date Posted: 23:56:06 10/09/07 ()
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At Anti-Corruption Commission:Prof Joko Smart Stashes 89 Million Leones, Dishes Out $25,000 In Makeni
While Professor Joko Smart of the Anti Corruption Commission may be contemplating sacking some employees at the commission, he has refused to tender his letter of resignation as ordered by State House, stating that he would only resign when he feels it is necessary.
Though his approach to his superior could be described as in subornation, that notwithstanding, he should be able to give an account of the Le 89 Million stashed somewhere in his office that he is preventing some junior members of staff of the commission to see.
The Le 89 Million is public money retrieved from Samuel Huggins, Prince Parker, Ngauja and others who were caught in the Anti Corruption net few months back as they had embarked on cashing out recycled cheques at the Central Bank, one of their “survival skills”
Meanwhile, Festus Robin Taylor, “blue-eye boy” to the commissioner has already assured Samuel Huggins and others that their files would never reached the door steps of either the Law Officers department or the Law Court building. To keep to his words, he has secured the files in a separate place under lock and key.
Furthermore, what has remained unexplained to this date by Professor Joko Smart is what happened to the $25,000 he took from the account of the commission on the pretext that the money would be used to pay office rent at Makeni; in the Bombali district for the Anti Corruption Commission “We don’t know what happened to the money” was the response of a member of the investigation team at the ACC.
When questioned by this press as to why he refused to comply with the others from State House, Professor Smart said “I will only resign when I thought it fit” making reference to the ex-South African leader, Mr. Nelson Mandela while he was in jail and was being threatened by one of the inmates that he was going to beat him up until he defecates “Mandela told him that he would do that when it was time for him to do so” Similarly I would resign when it is time” Professor Smart said.
About the $25,000 and the Le89 Million, the ACC boss trivialized the issue and then dismissed the journalist.
Subject: Re: Prof Joko Smart Stashes 89 Million Leones,
From: Mr President
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Date Posted: 02:51:53 10/10/07 ()
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I am not sure where you’re getting your information or facts. I find it very
unbelievable that Professor Smart would defy an order from the state
house/president to resign – in African politics. What is his assumption/
correlation behind his comparison with Nelson Mandela – these are two
different situation/circumstances.
Lets try to report factual information and shy away from ambiguous ones
with no basis.
Subject: For SLPP:Is Tejan Kabba the new Humpty Dumpty ??
From: Sheka Tarawalie (Shekito)
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Date Posted: 23:35:55 10/09/07 ()
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By Sheka Tarawalie (Shekito) in Manchester, UK
Those who were recently having sleepless moments day-dreaming (and night-dreaming too) for a continuation of “continuity” have had their dreams transformed into nightmares (and ‘daymares’) by a catalogue of surreal and inter-related events. I mean the apologists who, after the resounding and historic election of the APC government, thought that President Koroma would appoint former SLPP ministers and their cohorts in his cabinet, have got their hopes tumbled and shattered. It was like in the old children’s rhyme of the king’s men being unable to put Humpty Dumpty together again after his great fall.
It all started from an unlikely event. I would call Sorie Fofanah, the outgoing Information Attaché at Sierra Leone’s High Commission in London’s recent open letter to President Koroma as an unlikely event to precipitate or herald the final demise of out-gone President Kabbah - or even the SLPP - because it could not change anything. But it is important, not because Sorie clearly broke the diplomatic code of ethics (not sure he knew about that!) by flouting and bypassing his seniors to make a public statement as to even addressing the president in a most un-diplomatic language, but in the sense that it reminds us of lessons in History. I am not writing here about the ineptitude of a High Commission which does not know how many of its citizens are living in Britain, not to mention knowing about their safety (when poor Zainab Kaloko was gunned down at a party in London, the British police were surprised that our High Commission never made any contact with them about the case); no, I’m not writing about the incompetence of a High Commission whose website has had for several months running now the message “this page will be updated soon”, with its latest news published last April about John Benjamin collecting some donor money or something.
It was Adolf Hitler’s last moments, crouched in a bunker in Berlin with allied (particularly Soviet and American) forces pounding the city, but still surrounded by his loyalists who dreamt that their fears would not come to pass. When Heinrich Himmler wanted to acknowledge the reality, he did not inform his bosses but rather went through journalists (Reuters were the first to report it) to offer to surrender to the western Allies. This brought outrage, especially when Hitler had always regarded Himmler as his “loyal Heinrich” (compare Sorie’s own words, “I am one of President Kabbah’s best friends and loyalists”) who would die where his boss would die. Himmler was head of the Reichsfuhrer-SS with the motto “my honour is loyalty” (similar also to Sorie’s “politics is all about loyalty”), and his proposed defection - which was actually rejected by the Allies - was seen by Hitler as “the most shameful betrayal in human history”. Indeed Sorie’s jaundiced offer to serve the APC is of incomparable and perhaps insignificant proportion to the situation of World War II drama, but it is also a story of betrayal of loyalty. As Hitler perceived Himmler’s action, so Kabbah (well, as reflected in the writings of Kabbah’s Adviser, old Sama Banya) would perceive Sorie: that you wouldn’t have headed an organization (Sorie was chief SLPP propagandist) which cussed and cursed your opponent to the last minute and then offer to serve him to save self. Of course, as it happened to Himmler, nobody would ever take Sorie seriously anymore. Yet, after Himmler’s action, which brought confusion in the bunker, the once-feared Fuhrer was not destined to live long. He took his own life!
President Kabbah may not be at the point of taking - he may not even take - his own life, but it’s apparent that the future holds doom. I would not be surprised, in order to try to put up a face, if he soon announces his intention to re-marry - like Hitler did with his long-time mistress Eva Braun. But that would certainly not diminish the fog of uncertainty encompassing the former president’s future. The thin thread of hope that members of his cabinet would be retained by President Koroma has just been dealt a devastating blow with the release of the names of a new cabinet. I am not too sure about how John Benjamin would feel now after attempting a last-ditch self-seeking reconciliation with his long-time friend whom he never wanted to see become president. I am not sure about how Kabbah is trying to find some consolation here and there about having brought peace - or peace having brought itself during his regime (at an avoidable high cost anyway) - but it’s a moment of deep thought for the ex-president and his men.
In his speech at the state opening of Parliament last Friday, President Koroma had a swipe at Kabbah when in the only line that he made mention of his predecessor by name, he quoted his infamous statement of Sierra Leone having “no business being poor,” but yet we were poorest under his regime. Koroma nailed Kabbah and his SLPP’s political coffin by saying, “when a government fails in its principal duties of good governance, reneges on its promises to effectively serve the people, and neglects to provide for the basic needs of its people, that government is destined to be rejected by the people.”
But if the story had ended there, then it would have still been fine for Kabbah - after all, it was really Berewa that lost the elections. Alas, there’s the bad news that Kabbah is facing a legal tussle with Mohamed Kamal Wanza about human rights violations and the purchase of a gun-boat. This could be disastrous for Kabbah. But it would not be as disastrous as the snowball effect such an issue could have by igniting a string of legal challenges that could possibly see Kabbah where he first sent Hinga Norman - the Special Court, or even beyond.
Kabbah had tried to shield himself from prosecution by grabbing some presidential immunity. The only snag is that immunities don’t last - especially when your chosen successor has been defeated. Augusto Pinochet of Argentina is an example. Frederick Chiluba of Zambia is another. Heads of State who try to protect themselves for bad things they might have done while in office have no guarantee of this after they have left office. The ECOWAS court is waiting to see if Kabbah would try to run away. But where would he go? There’s no hiding place for corrupt or corrupted politicians in this global village anymore.
News filtering in indicate that Kabbah is up against insurmountable odds. The Sandline issue may soon crop up. Just a reminder: this was the issue of Kabbah doing business with a UK-based mercenary company (Sandline International) to break UN sanctions and launch an attack on Sierra Leone for him to be restored to power. At the time, the British government was deeply embarrassed, and it’s former High Commissioner to Sierra Leone, Komrabai Peter Penfold, was recalled for his role in the affair. Although the issue of the legality of Sandline haunts Kabbah, as the then British Representative to the UN Sir John Weston questioned about who gave the mandate for the operation, the sword of Damocles that could immediately undo Kabbah would be the alleged mining concessions given to some companies in return for the weapons and personnel supplied by Sandline. In 1997, Lord Avebury of the UK House of Lords asked if Kabbah had not literally mortgaged the country’s diamond resources. In 2007, with the APC government up and running with a view to reviewing all mining arrangements, the depth of this mortgage would be exposed – if found to be true, the people and government of Sierra Leone will not agree to the terms of any self-serving arrangement; and the mining companies in question, if they feel hoaxed, will have to sue Kabbah for the agreement’s termination. You see…
And if this new Parliament decides to lift Kabbah’s presidential immunity, which is more likely to be done than not, then Hinga Norman may well be turning in his grave to see Kabbah subpoenaed to the Special Court to at least answer to questions relating to those who bore the greatest responsibility in the war. And remember that Kabbah’s most trusted lawyer, Solomon Berewa, cannot be relied on anymore – the former Vice President has reportedly severed relations to the extent that he rather moved to Goderich instead of going to Juba where he could have been seeing his former boss.
Well, in 1967, the Beoku-Betts Commission warned Sierra Leoneans, after finding Kabbah who was only a Permanent Secretary to have stolen more money than Prime Minister Albert Margai, not to ever trust the man with public office. The hullabaloo now surrounding Kabbah’s activities when he was given a second chance could well prove Beoku-Betts right.
I salute President Koroma for breaking with the past and refusing to take Kabbah’s henchmen in the new cabinet. Certainly, this is new APC. That courageous outspoken lady Zainab Bangura is fit for the post of Foreign Minister, Serry-Kamal (despite the understandable rumblings over his appointment for having been elected an MP) would be a better Justice Minister than all of Kabbah’s combined, we will be pleased to try David Carew than continue with John Benjamin as Finance Minister, there couldn’t have been a better Information Minister at this time than veteran journalist I.B. Kargbo. But of all President Koroma’s appointees so far, the one I admire most is Alpha Kanu. I have never met the man; but the way he managed the APC’s campaign as spokesman, with his wits around him in handling Sierra Leonean journalists, was exemplary. I can say, after the president himself, Kanu is a pronounced reflection of the new face of the new APC.
Which only makes ex-President Kabbah sadder. I tell you, Kabbah’s death pangs have just begun. O how are the mighty fallen! From the unlikely letter of a loyalist, to former henchmen holding closed-door meetings with the new president, to the case of Mohamed K. Wanza, to the announcement of a new cabinet, it would seem “All the king’s horses and all the king’s men couldn’t put Humpty Dumpty together again”.
God bless Sierra Leone!
Subject: Why some of us do the things we do, want to be this.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 23:22:55 10/09/07 ()
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Please watch it and listen. It is not just Black, children but most men who are not sure of themselves want to think and do things as they see on T.V. Most do not even understand what is going on but just want to be seen as being hip.
Classic example, most people contribute on this forum, though they are not Sierra Leoneans yet, they think if they do, they are considered hip. Most even get mad at somethings I say, thinking that "we are both in this thing together." Honestly, I do not even know you or whether or not you know about the forum. There are those I have been contributing with since 1997, most of whom I have met in person, while others, I might know but write different names from their actual names but are trying to let me know that it is them by making refference to things, people and places we both know because they are or happened in our home town, country or what have you but to them I say, dude, Sierra Leone is five million people about three million knew me before I came to the U.S. I did so many things from the day I was born to this day and we are contributing on a forum, where no one's face is on it, people posting from Sierra Leone, Europe, all over America, Canada you name it and do not have their actual names or photo representing them, dude, how do you expect me to know it is you? Reply, I thought you studied Psychology? I said oooops!
Can read over.
Subject: CDF Leaders Sentenced
From: Kamajor
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Date Posted: 23:13:42 10/09/07 ()
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CDF Leaders Sentenced
- Tuesday 9 October 2007.
According to a Special Court press release,two former leaders of Sierra Leone’s Civil Defence Forces (CDF) militia have received prison sentences following their convictions in August for war crimes committed during the country’s decade-long civil conflict.
Justice Itoe said that while both Prosecution and Defence had recommended single, “global” sentences, the Court had decided to hand down separate sentences on each count for which the two accused had been found guilty.
Moinina Fofana, who was convicted on 4 counts of the 8-count indictment, received sentences of 6 years for Count 2 (murder), 6 years for Count 4 (cruel treatment), 3 years for Count 5 (pillage), and 4 years for Count 7 (collective punishments).
Allieu Kondewa, who was convicted on 5 counts, received sentences of 8 years for Count 2 (murder), 8 years for Count 4 (cruel treatment), 5 years for Count 5 (pillage), 6 years for Count 7 (collective punishments), and 7 years for Count 8 (conscr1pting or enlisting children under the age of 15 years into armed forces or groups or using them to participate actively in hostilities).
Prosecutors had asked for longer terms of imprisonment, but Presiding Judge Justice Benjamin Itoe, in reading out today’s sentencing judgment, pointed to a number of mitigating factors which the Court held justified shorter sentences. These included the CDF’s efforts to restore Sierra Leone’s democratically-elected government which, the Trial Chamber noted, “contributed immensely to re-establishing the rule of law in this Country where criminality, anarchy and lawlessness...had become the order of the day”.
The Court ordered that the sentences be served concurrently, meaning that Fofana will serve a total of 6 years and Kondewa will serve an 8 year sentence. The sentences will run from 29 May 2003, the date the two were taken into custody by the Special Court.
Subject: Last but not least,
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 23:11:19 10/09/07 ()
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Ladies and gentlemen, Kenny G!
Subject: No woman no cry. Don't forget your past
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:57:12 10/09/07 ()
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Exactly!
Subject: Ernest Koroma Answers Your Questions - Interesting
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Date Posted: 22:37:10 10/09/07 ()
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Sierra Leone's Ernest Koroma on BBC's Have Your Say
Africa's newest president Ernest Koroma was yesterday on BBC's have your say. Speaking on the phone from Freetown, questions sent in via texts, emails and phone calls from around Africa were put to him by Alex Jakana of the BBC.
After introducing himself, the first question came from a Kenyan who was seeking advice on what the kenyan opposition should do towards their up and coming general elections. Mr Koroma stressed that they as an opposition, ran a professional and robust campaign but the deciding factors where an independent electoral commission and the security forces that all maintained professionalism throughout the electoral process.
On the issue of corruption, he maintained that he will propose a review within the next two months to give autonomy to the Anti-Corruption Commission.
He declined to give a rough estimate of his worth but stressed that he will call a press conference within a couple of weeks to declare his assets and he expects all public officers to do the same. He maintained there will be no sacred cows in the fight against corruption and that includes ministers, friends and family members.
On the APC's legacy of corruption, economic mismagement and neglect for the basic needs of Sierra Leone creeping in to his government, he maintained that even though he was proud of the achievements of the past APC governments he accepts that mistakes were made and also the conditions that existed for such mismanagement no longer exists. On whether he was gonna severe ties with old APC members, he responded that they are moving a process and as the cabinet has shown change as well. If they as old members fit into the process so be it, else they can judge for themselves.
On a commission of inquiry to investigate former goverment members, he maintained that the Anti-Corruption Commission will deal with any corruption cases.
Responding to Harritte Turay of the 50/50 group about his plans for rural women as well as market women and traders to have access to bank loans as they form the economic backbone of the country, he stressed his commitment to small and medium businesses. He promised to set up a commission to provide monitoring of micro-credit loans and training them on basic skills.
On his foreign policy, he said he was prepared to commit troops to Darfur but was less clear on his stance on Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe.
source: SalonePeople
Subject: CAREW FOR FINANCE MINISTER
From: Bank Governor
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Date Posted: 22:16:52 10/09/07 ()
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Don't be in a hast to praise Carey for Finance Minister. He has more secret buried with this appointment than the outgoing finance minister.This will compromise future Investigations.
He has been cutodian for Many firms direct or indirectly. He was chosen to prevent Prosecution of power brokers such as Union Trust Bank, Ritcorp, Rokel Leaf Tobacco Company and the list goes on. He should be thoroughly investigated by the parliament.
Subject: Big things clapping! and little thing stopping!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:07:07 10/09/07 ()
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Do it!
Subject: Re: Big things clapping! and little thing stopping!
From: Shembu
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Date Posted: 11:27:59 10/10/07 ()
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Bambay,
In an earlier posting of yours, you claimed that before you left S/L, about 3 million people knew you. I wonder under what guise they came to know you. I am saying so because you many nonse postings depicts an immature and idle individual. Were you a commedian in S/L (not trying to say a commedian is immature and idle).
I mean you can cut down on your postings, most of them are utter garbage. I say this respectfully. Don't be notorious, or do you wanna be.
Subject: Tekloma and the politics of hypocrisy?
From: Saidu Daphay Turay
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Date Posted: 21:54:54 10/09/07 ()
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Nyallay and the combined forces of defeated SLPP criminals are failures. The new APC is not of Siaka Stephens or J.S. Momoh who can be easily penetrated with the politics of sycophancy and political prostitution. Ernest is highly indebted to the supressed, dehumanized and disgraced people of Sierra Leone, therefore he better watchout to be easily carried away by crooks like, Nyallay and cohorts who sponsored the NPRC coup and openly challenged her Highness Christiana Thorpe in announcing the will of the people to self determination. Nyallay and Tegloma are bunch of self-conceited, arrogant, unpatritotic, and tribalistic group who should not be tolerated until they apologiize to the people of Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: Tekloma and the politics of hypocrisy?
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
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Date Posted: 11:47:17 10/10/07 ()
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Saidu, are saying that because somebody is a member of the SLPP that person must not congratulate President Koroma?
Don't you believe that it will pay the APC a lot of dividend if it decides to be inclusive.
We have been divided for a very long time, let us now come together in the interest of our beloved country.
I am a member of the SLPP but I will always embrace my APC brothers and sisters and call on them to work with me to push our country forward.
Subject: WHEN IS ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA LEAVING ?
From: AWOKO
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Date Posted: 22:05:50 10/09/07 ()
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ENTY SAIDU BE SAY E DON GET JOB WIT AWOKO, WEN E DAE LEF FOR DE NU JAB. BECOS WE FALA AM NAR SALEONE EN MAKE PEOPLE KNOW WUS KIN MAN E BI' LEH WE KEEP AWAY FROM ZAINAB BANGURA HE GO BEGIN SAY NAR E FAMBUL.
Subject: Re: WHEN IS ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA LEAVING ?
From: Alieu Oil
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Date Posted: 22:48:17 10/09/07 ()
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Alpha Saidu Bangura is the son Shaki Bangura, former permanemt secretary in the ministry of development and ecomomic Planning.
Since Zainab bangura was the wife of Sheki bangura it follows that Zainab is the step-mother of Alpha Saidu Bangura.
This is the reason Saidu was Singing praise of Zainab Bangura...Blood is thicker than Water.
Secondly that why Alpha Saidu was informing all that he has access to SL Diplomatic passport.
"De Man get inside info about APC agenda..."
Subject: Re: WHEN IS ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA LEAVING ?
From: awoko
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Date Posted: 23:10:09 10/09/07 ()
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NO SHEKI BANGURA IS NOT SAIDU,S FATHER. I THINK SHEKI IS SAIDU,S UNCLE'
Subject: Re: WHEN IS ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA LEAVING ?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:11:17 10/09/07 ()
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Munku nor kin sabie hide sef. Because e nor kin know waiting dae go on im jus dae do for do sake. 2000 years before now thinking vs 2000 from now thinking nor be dee same.
Listen!
I love you though.
No false pretenses.
Subject: Re: WHEN IS ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA LEAVING ?
From: poorman
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Date Posted: 22:34:12 10/09/07 ()
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nor to for atak .nar ask de posen ask.
Subject: Re: WHEN IS ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA LEAVING ?
From: Shembu
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Date Posted: 12:30:37 10/10/07 ()
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Poorman,
Are you the same as "Poormasu Tumbuyama".......Boys' Sch and FBC?
Subject: Re: WHEN IS ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA LEAVING ?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 19:30:20 10/10/07 ()
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No, I am the one living in a capitalistic democracy, where any one who is cedit worthy can take a loan and should live how he or she wants; the land of freedom and my name is Bambay Lansana Kamara. I went to Milton Margai Teachers College, where I graduated in 1987 and worked at State House, in the President's Office from 1987 to 1991 when I left for the United States. Currently, I am a student. What are you?
Just that you know in case you are in doubt.
Did you ask for all that? Ooops!
Hey why not, the Rule of lAW (Democracy works!)Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Expression.
A don lock dem up tiday. Unu warn am oh, ar go lock am up! E want for go nar detention.
Subject: Oh yeh!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 21:44:22 10/09/07 ()
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Can you put it in the open if you sure you do not cover your tracks?
I challenge you to make yourself available for public scrutiny if you are sure of no small wrongdoing. Let them investigate you too and through and continue to walk head-high. Can you? That is the difference.
Man just dae do last blow-mind. How for do?
Girl, you so beautiful. You believe in humanity more than foolish pride. I respect that!
Actually, no to say meself bin want that oh. But ii it is to prove right over wrong, I think I am all for it. Because the world is full of wicked and satanic people who believe in evil over good. But as long as we live, we will bring them to terms with reality. Are you with me?
Subject: Criticism of "SULLAY DARAMY"
From: Kenei B
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Date Posted: 21:06:38 10/09/07 ()
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“Some newsreaders and officials from Sierra Leone are very much concerned about the bias manner in which the ‘journalist’ Foday Conteh is conducting business at Cocorioko. Without hesitation, he now calls himself "a reporter" and is claiming that he is the most suitable for the job of State Chief of Protocol.”
Unaccountable source
Did it cross the mind of Foday Conteh and "some supporters and officials of the All People's Congress", that Alhaji Soulay Daramy may be giving priority to the outgoing SLPP officials because they have much to report to the new President on the status of the concerned institutions?
Suggestions that our newly elected President is being forced to sit down in meetings with “a host of SLPP folks” against his own will, (and against the wishes of his fellow APC advisers) serve only to undermine the new governments governing credibility.
Hearsay regarding our newly self appointed “Third President” is too ridiculous for me to seriously respond to. This statement should have accredited to the authors imagination, since no one else was named.
Allegations made without evidence will not help Sierra Leone move forward and catch up with the rest of the world. Nothing good can come from bias and incredibly irresponsible journalism.
I have no experience in protocol or in journalism, but I truly doubt that a requirement for the State Chief of Protocol job is to ‘treat people fairly’, but rather to aid the President in prioritising with whom to hold talks with. In addition to this, I am sure that there are many Sierra Leoneans that would like to simply congratulate the new President on his victory.
I suggest that Mr Foday Conteh with for of his good intentions reflects on his journalist ethics…
“...public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility.”
The Society of Professional Journalists
May God Bless Sierra Leone with Stability and Peace.
Kenei B
Subject: PAY REFORM WILL LEAD TO THE PRACTICE OF OPEN-BOOK MANAGEMENT
From: QUEST
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Date Posted: 20:42:14 10/09/07 ()
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For starters, realistically if the new Leadership team is going to practice an OPEN-BOOK MANAGEMENT policy, as a way of developing trust within the Country, the international community and also as an instrument to curb corruption, plus moving the country forward, pay reform across the board, has to be a must in my estimation. We have very poorly paid civil servants and Leadership. The last time I checked, all former colonies inherited civil service pay scales that exceeded private sector wages, but has eroded over time. It has been forty ompt years ago. A recent cross-country study finds a negative association between civil service wages and the level of corruption. As far as the Leadership, a Cabinet minister gets paid an equivalent of $6000 per annum. This is unheard of. It is a recipe for failure.
The objective here is, we all want our New Leadership to break the circle and come through for us. So the question is, what is an acceptable or reasonable pay rate for our Leadership, lets say a cabinet minister with the intent to keep him honest. There is no substitute for honesty. One may be temporarily dishonest by force of circumstances over which one has no control, without permanent damage. But, there is no hope for the person that is dishonest by choice. Sooner or later it will catch up with him or her, and they will pay by loss of reputation and even loss of liberty.
Remember we do not only want to trust and respect OUR LEADERSHIP, we also expect them to think clearly and make good decisions. We have to move this Country forward. We have to.
I will say pay a cabinet minister any where from $50,000-70,000 per annum, going farther, I say up to $100,000 if they are really getting the job done in a timely manner. I'm also aware that they get transportation and housing.
What do you SAY?
Subject: Re: PAY REFORM WILL LEAD TO THE PRACTICE OF OPEN-BOOK MANAGEMENT
From: CHRIS
To: All
Date Posted: 08:36:19 10/10/07 ()
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In addition to what you said.
Subject: Re: PAY REFORM WILL LEAD TO THE PRACTICE OF OPEN-BOOK MANAGEMENT
From: CHRIS
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Date Posted: 08:32:31 10/10/07 ()
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The Anti corruption commission is already in place but has to be overhauled operating under a strong statue independent of the police force. It should report only to the President and parliament. Officers in the Anti corruption commission should be paid more than other civil servants and were not subject to transfer to other departments. The system is already in place, the Key is implementation.
Subject: Re: PAY REFORM WILL LEAD TO THE PRACTICE OF OPEN-BOOK MANAGEMENT
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 20:49:02 10/09/07 ()
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That will be a good idea. That way, they will not be tempted to steal from the coffers of the country.
Added to it also should quarterly auditing with an aim of uncovering mal-practices.
Subject: Jews and Blacks to stop oppressing White People. KKK
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:54:21 10/09/07 ()
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Does the Klan Hate Negroes
When talking about the Klan, one of the first things some people think of is that associates of The Knights must really hate Negroes and other non-Whites. In fact some people are so sure that this is the basic foundation of the Klan they will actually want to join for this very reason. How disappointed they must be when they find out the Klan does not hate Negroes!
Yes, those who want to associate with the Klan because they believe the Klan will be fertile ground to promote their hatred toward Negroes quickly learn the Klan is based on LOVE and not hate!
The Klan attempts to be very careful so the only people who associate are those motivated out of love for our people. Perhaps this may surprise you. Perhaps you have heard or read that the Klan is a "hate" group. Those anti-White extremists who hate America and our people have given us this label. The reason is because they realize most people will be turned against the Klan if they think the Klan promotes hatred.
The Klan, however is not a hate group, but we are a LOVE group. We are a love group because we LOVE America and we LOVE our people.
The Klan does not believe in slavery and believes the Negro should have the right to self determination. Self-determination is the belief that a people should have the right to rule their own affairs. However the Negro is not being given this opportunity unless it is in the form of oppressing the rights of White people.
The Negroes are unaware that they are merely the pawns in a gigantic "chess game" being played out by internationalists who hate America and our Constitutional Republic.
The Klan, however, also believes in self determination for White People! If, as we are always told, black majority rule in South Africa is good, WHY is White majority rule in America bad. White people should not be continually forced to bow and scrape before the demands of Negroes, Jews, Asians, Mexicans and other so called minorities.
Instead of these "minorities" complaining and demanding more and more, they should thank the White people for everything we have given them. They, in their original homeland have none of the benefits they are enjoying here in America. Remember it is your tax dollars which has to pay for all of those free benefits they get and now it takes the income of two to feed our families while we support them with welfare, food stamps, public housing, Aid to Dependent Children, job quotas, pay subsidies, etc. and etc. Yet they are still unhappy, always demanding more and more. How much are you willing to pay and for how long?
So while we believe the Negroes have a natural right to study black history, our children should not be forced to do so. Our children should be encouraged to study OUR history and emulate OUR heroes. If Negroes want to "worship" Martin Luther King as a great black hero, we really couldn't care less. But by what God given right does the federal government have to demand OUR children honor King.
While we believe Negroes have a right to have black pride, we believe you as a White person also has the right to have White Pride! There are Negro colleges supported by the United Negro College Fund which gets free advertising on TV and radio in an effort to generate contributions from Whites who are suffering some kind of neurotic White guilt, however, where is the United White College Fund. This is just one small example.
There are thousands of groups working for the interests of Jews, Asians, Negroes and Mexicans, yet if anyone work s for the interest of Whites they are called"haters," "bigots" and "Neo-Nazi terrorists." Those slick one-world types know that if they can make a label stick it will place an automatic barrier against open dialogue in the minds of most people. This is why we strive to associate only with those who base their feelings on LOVE for THEIR racial family not out of hatred for some other racial family.
You and I know that we are not haters, we simply want to preserve our precious heritage. We do have a rich history, one in which we can be very proud and we do not want to lose it!
Subject: Re: Jews and Blacks to stop oppressing White People. KKK
From: LIQCO
To: All
Date Posted: 22:48:45 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: liqco@yahoo.com
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Message:
Dude, can you please choose another forum for such topics? I'm an African American just like you probably. But such topics should be left alone in our "American Classrooms" like they currently are. You sincerely scare me with such topics. I know I speak for most Sierra Leone-ans when I say our people are not ready to go through what you and I are currently going through in the States. I mean, I respect your courage and admiration to bring such topics in this forum. But we just came out of a ten year plus civil war and this is definitely not something that we want to talk about...HATE...PLEASE HELP!
Subject: Re: Jews and Blacks to stop oppressing White People. KKK
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:28:45 10/09/07 ()
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Do some people living in America know how the system works; if so how do people pay taxes in America? Worker or a businessman, tax is deducted from your income, at the end of the year you file state and federal taxes right? Deduction is pay as you earn; Meaning the one writing that pays lesser than Bill Gates and Oprah Winfrey and he pays lesser than a White girl that is not a racist working at McDonalds who is not at the same pay range pays less. What is the difference between the way one pays taxes from the other? Those who buy planes pay more taxes from those who buy pintos, candies or SUVs.
White Power!
The only thing I can say I admire about KKK is that they can admit openly that they are prejudice but there are those who are worst than the KKK because they have shown that believe in the KKK ideology but hate to be called a racist or join the group. What a shame.
Go KKK. I am a regional director. I joined in 1954 in San Jose and Arkansas; (You are free to call it San Joe say) and Arcan sass; that is ok too.
Subject: Re: Jews and Blacks to stop oppressing White People. KKK
From: Condi
To: All
Date Posted: 08:45:37 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: CondiK@yahoo.com
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Message:
Have you been taking your medication? If not, I suggest you are having a relapse. Run to our shrink for more medication......boy crazy
Subject: CAREW means Castle by Water in Welsh
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 18:52:26 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
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Message:
In SL, the last name Carew is found in many ethno-linguistic groups. Carews are : Western Area, there are Creole (Christians), Creole-Muslim (Aku Marabou); Tonkolili, Temne(Carew=Kamara);Moyamba, Shebro and Mende.
The name has to do with our British Past (Missionary and Colonial)
Subject: Re: CAREW means Castle by Water in Welsh
From: fact
To: All
Date Posted: 20:11:54 10/09/07 ()
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I think you are right, thanks. I forgot the Oku Carews and those in Rotifunk perhaps. (Not sure about those).
Subject: Well, you see for yourself
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:38:46 10/09/07 ()
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Renowned Auditor Heads Finance And Development Ministry in Sierra Leone
Renowned auditor and senior management partner of KPMG auditing firm David Carew has been appointed Minister of Finance and Development by President Ernest Bai Koroma: an appointment viewed by many Sierra Leoneans as ‘the right man for the right job’ who can turn around the disgusting fraud and financial malpractices at that sensitive ministry
Subject: Where is SADAM INSANE
From: Chemical Ali
To: All
Date Posted: 14:57:46 10/09/07 ()
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The insane one came and disappeared in a flash. I wonder what led to his quick extinction. Probably, he lacked the adaptability wits that allow one to survive in a hostile environment like trhe Cocorioko forum. Well, he was funny and really insane while he lasted.
Hope he never comes back!
Subject: Re: Where is SADAM INSANE
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 16:45:10 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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Message:
People,
Remember the last time I had a diatribe with Saddam Insane and asked that he tone down his attacks. He did, and became quite civil. That may be why he changed his name too. He may have been posting under a more acceptable and credible names.
Subject: Re: Where is SADAM INSANE
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 15:12:51 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
hay man I am still around. I have been busy with monthly financial close that I have'nt had the time to post. But Thanks for your concern. I will be posting soon. Hopefully next week. I have been giving some prozac as well that is keeping me going.
I remain Insane.
Subject: Re: Where is SADAM INSANE
From: Kekuda
To: All
Date Posted: 17:18:03 10/09/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gate02c.merckmedco.com at 167.211.190.2
Message:
Bo nar lie. You've ran out of ideas. You bin kak dae wait for appointment. EBK change foot pan you unh?
Subject: THE CABINET,THANK YOU MR PRESIDENT
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 14:38:40 10/09/07 ()
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Your determination to affect change in our beloved land is becoming a reality as time goes by and your newly appointed cabinet is just another indicator.May the Almighty God guide you and your partners in this endeavor.KUDOS FOR THE HALF NEW CABINET.
Subject: Re: THE CABINET,THANK YOU MR PRESIDENT
From: FORREST GUMP
To: All
Date Posted: 06:02:00 10/10/07 ()
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Message:
Musa, that Milk and Honey you want to drink in Freetown has now materialised I hope you enjoy it and you can now start to recuperate your remortgage on your house
LOVE and HAPPY RAMADAN to you Sir you have been a good sport
FORREST
Subject: Thorpe
From: Alimamy Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 14:29:09 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: deltablast@yahoo.com
Entered From: e178096187.adsl.alicedsl.de at 85.178.96.187
Message:
I have said remove this foto from this forum.
Subject: Re: Thorpe
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 21:09:22 10/09/07 ()
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Message:
Bo sidom saful nar Germany.
Non foto nor dae nar forum.
Foto dae nar online newspaper, en dat nar di ohna in biznes.
Subject: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: portia
To: All
Date Posted: 14:26:53 10/09/07 ()
Email Address:
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Is the appointed Finance Minister a Creole or Temne?
Former Attorney General Carew is a Temne.
Subject: Temne but they all speak mende well
From: okdok
To: All
Date Posted: 13:21:00 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Message:
Temne.
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: FAD
To: All
Date Posted: 09:57:14 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: arlynd@hotmail.com
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Message:
I THINK THIS IS NOT A QUESTION FOR ANY SOBER MINDED SALONE MAN WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT ISSUES NOW
CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT PART OF OUR CONSTITUTION SPECIFIES ONE'S TRIBAL AFFILIATION AS AN ELIGIBILITY TO HOLD MINISTERIAL OR OTHER POSITION(S) IN SALONE?
YOU APPEAR VERY IRRELEVANT IN THIS FORUM
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 04:10:19 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator6071.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.181.216
Message:
A Carew can never be a temne.He or she can some temne connection but will not mean being a temne.If you talk about Kamara,Sesay,Koroma,Bangura and Conteh surnames then you can be close but never Carew.
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: azz
To: All
Date Posted: 07:54:07 10/10/07 ()
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Message:
Who cares? you can go shove your carewship up your you-know-where.
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne? WHY DO YOU CARE?
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 16:50:40 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
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Message:
Please tell us the real substance of your question by answering these questions:
How relevant is it to the value and credibility of the cabinet?
How useful is it to the general national concern against tribalism?
Does it matter that he is Temne or Creole?
Would you accept or reject his appointment if he were any of the two or not?
Do you think the nation should care?
Are you tribalistic or not?
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: POLITICO
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:02 10/09/07 ()
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Message:
I guess he is OKU from Fourah Bay or Fullah Town or Aberdeen.
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: Realistic
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Date Posted: 18:21:07 10/09/07 ()
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No he is not OKU or Fullah Town but what difference does it make.
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: Gbarah
To: All
Date Posted: 10:43:46 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
No he is Kroo from Ghanga , Liberia. So what?
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: june savage
To: All
Date Posted: 15:09:06 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: junal@hotmail.com
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
Does tribe matter in this case?
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: Jay
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:16 10/09/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
He is a Krio of Nigerian origin.
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:28 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Carew a Temne? Some of you are not realistic. How can you call a loko man a temne? The Carews are from Rotifunk. I swear to PA lamina Poyo. I spoke to John Carew and he confermed to me that the guy is his relative from Rotifunk. Well actually Loko sherbro and Bonthonians are all Creole by sajemajeh (check your dictionary on this one or ask someone from FBC). Or may be I am just insame not to know the difference.
Yes na so a Say.
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne? -Insane is BACK
From: Shembu
To: All
Date Posted: 12:34:56 10/10/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Once I see "Yes na so a Say", I let go a big laugh and say to my self, Yes Sadam Insane is back.
Quick question Sadam, are you claiming that you went to FBC. That will be a real disaster. If you went to FBC and write the way you write, then FBC must be another FBC in Iraq, where you are from. Yes nar so ar say, dat you dae write arabic not english.
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: fact
To: All
Date Posted: 17:32:45 10/09/07 ()
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Message:
FM Carew, the former Attorney General is Temne. He, like all other Carews, came from a ruling house in Tonkolili. Some Carews identify themselves as Mende or Krio but the grandfather or patriarch was a Temne raised by Krio folks in Freetown.
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: Lameeh Gblaah
To: All
Date Posted: 16:34:17 10/09/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Hi Folkes,
I don't know how you people like to term a Krio man,as a loko man or a shabra man or a temene man !! when ever a Creole asend to power you people like to attribute some vices or some history behind them. WHAT DOES TRIBE HAVE TO DO WITH THIS! As I have said earlier on on this forum I Knew David Carew long time ago in the late 50's early 60's at that time he was living off savage street . Jones Lane with his parents and his brother Walter all of us were attending the Buxton Boy's school at charles street and later the siera leone Grammar school and I went to the Saint Edwards and his brother went to the methodist Boy's high school .As an ACCA holder myself we had been in conferences and so many seminars although he is about 4 to five years older the me I am very happy that Ernest Koroma had made a sound choice and I am one hundred percent sure that that guy will deliver. THE RIGH MAN FOR THE RIGHT JOB .
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: Jay
To: All
Date Posted: 16:37:21 10/09/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Right on the point.I might know you, bro
Subject: Re: Is Carew a Creole or Temne?
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 21:52:18 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-68-49-178-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 68.49.178.95
Message:
Hay it me Sadam, you people are all the same just as we iraqis are all the same. Creole to Sherboro, Mende and Loko, Temne and limba Fula and Caw, mende and gbegbe. Peace my people. By the way I am looking for a job in the President Koroma's government now that he has started getting off his butt to do some work. Looking forward for more ministers. You go boy! Oh I have a prayer for him. May God grant him wisdom and help him fixed bomeh.
Subject: FOR KABS KANU
From: P
To: All
Date Posted: 12:48:28 10/09/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I NEED TO SEND YOU AN EMAIL MEANT FOR YOUR EYES ONLY.
PLEASE POST AN EMAIL ACCOUNT THAT ONLY YOU READ.
Subject: Re: FOR KABS KANU
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 20:57:51 10/09/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
kabbskanu@aol.com
Subject: Kamajors
From: King Niambana
To: All
Date Posted: 12:44:31 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: bonnicky@gmail.com
Entered From: dslb-088-070-115-018.pools.arcor-ip.net at 88.70.115.18
Message:
read the message from below from reuters or go the site:- http://www.al3rtnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L09335747.htm
(adds quotes, details) FREETOWN, Oct 9 (Reuters) - Sierra Leone's U.N.-backed Special Court sentenced two former leaders of a pro-government militia to six and eight years in prison on Tuesday for war crimes during the West African state's 1991-2002 civil conflict.
Moinina Fofana and Allieu Kondewa were leaders of the Civil Defence Forces (CDF), which fought against rebel groups trying to topple former President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah.
The judges said they had taken into account the defendants' actions in defending democracy when deciding their sentences, which take effect retroactively to their arrest in 2003.
"Their fight to restore democracy has been taken into consideration," said presiding judge Benjamin Mutanga Itoe from Cameroon. He said the two men had "contributed immensely to re-establishing the rule of law in this country".
The pair were convicted in August of war crimes under the Geneva convention -- including murder, cruelty and pillage -- but were acquitted of crimes against humanity.
Kondewa was also found guilty of recruiting child soldiers and will serve the longer eight-year sentence.
Justice Rosolu John Bankole Thompson, the only Sierra Leonean on the three-judge panel, had wished to acquit them of all charges.
Prosecutors described Kondewa as the "high priest" of the feared Kamajor traditional hunters who dominated the CDF. The Kamajors were accused of severing their victims heads and eating their roasted flesh and intestines.
The lenient sentences contrasted with tough jail terms imposed in July on three leaders of the rebel Armed Forces Revolutionary Council, which toppled Sierra Leone's government in 1997. Alex Tamba Brima and Santigie Borbor Kanu were jailed for 50 years each, and Brima Bazzy Kamara for 45 years.
Subject: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: Profile
To: All
Date Posted: 12:33:30 10/09/07 ()
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PROFILES
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David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development for Sierra Leone
By Awareness Times
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Profile of the new Minister of Finance & Development
DAVID O. CAREW
The new Minister of Finance & Development, David Omashola Carew is a relatively unknown figure in the country’s national politics but within the nation’s financial circles, he is generally regarded as THE Financial Guru who has successfully headed the nation’s Number One Accounting & Management Consultancy Firm, KPMG for the last ten years. He shares a close affinity with President Ernest Bai Koroma.
Carew, a product of the Sierra Leone Grammar School, has spent the last twenty eight years with KPMG since 1979 when he graduated from the University of Sierra Leone with a B.Sc Economics degree. He joined KPMG in August 1979 as a Graduate Accountant. He was seconded to KPMG Nigeria the same year and he worked in Nigeria till 1986 when he returned as an Assistant Manager.
In Nigeria he qualified as a Chartered Accountant in 1982 and was again seconded to the northern state of Kanu, Nigeria. In the north he worked as an Audit Supervisor and was in charge of all KPMG’s clients in the banking and financial institutions industry, in Kanu. He was designated Training 'Manager’ for the three northern states in Nigeria, reporting to the Training Partner in Lagos.
On his return to Freetown, as Assistant Manager, KPMG he was Engagement Manager for 50% of the firm’s clients, managing the provision of assurance, taxation and secretarial services. He also handled the sensitive and major clients and also all the International referral jobs in the country. During the leave of the Resident Manager in the Gambia, David Carew acted as Relief Manager. During 1986 to 1988 David grew from Assistant Manager to Deputy Manager, Manager and Senior Manager.
In 1989, David Carew was admitted to Partnership Status in KPMG-Sierra Leone and again in 1991, he was made a Partner in the KPMG-Gambia operations. During that time he was the Engagement Partner for all the firm’s clients in Sierra Leone and the major and international referral client in the Gambia. During this period David set up the Management Consulting Services in Sierra Leone and the Gambia. He assisted the Senior Partner who was in charge of corporate finance work. He was also in charge of Forensic work with the Government of Sierra Leone as a major client.
David Carew is a Fellow of the Institute of Chartered Accountants in Nigeria and also a Fellow of the Institute of Chartered Accountants in Sierra Leone, where he is a Past President.
Until his nomination yesterday to be the new Minister of Finance and Development in Sierra Leone, David Carew was the Managing Partner for KPMG-Sierra Leone and for delivering KPMG services to clients in The Gambia and Liberia. His responsibilities included harnessing all the knowledge and resources available within KPMG both local and international to provide world-class service to all clients.
Carew’s appointment yesterday by President Ernest Bai Koroma was greeted with huge enthusiasm both locally and in the Diaspora. With a clean and very credible reputation, he commands a lot of respect from Sierra Leoneans who will be expecting him to deliver the same world-class service he provided his KPMG clients.
Aside from his services provided to Sierra Leone, Gambia, Ghana and Liberia, Carew, due to his brilliant accounting and auditing skills, is regularly sought to serve clients as far away as London, Middle East and the Far East.
David Carew is in his early fifties, happily married with two children. A Golf Enthusiast, his company, KPMG sponsors an Annual Golf Tournament in Sierra Leone. Carew is also known to be a philanthropist who regularly undertakes the payment of school and college fees for needy Sierra Leoneans.
© Copyright by Awareness Times Newspaper in Freetown, Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: JAY
To: All
Date Posted: 14:20:34 10/09/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Well,finally there is hope for Sierra Leone.Carew is a guy I grew up with,he was like a big brother and I role model.I always admired his competence and integrity which was inculcated in him by his mum.I have no doubt that this guy will make a difference as he is already self made.
Congrats Bro.
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: Bank Governor
To: All
Date Posted: 22:10:54 10/09/07 ()
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Message:
Don't be in a hast to praise Carey for Finance Minister. He has more secret buried with this appointment than the outgoing finance minister.This will compromise future Investigations.
He has been cutodian for Many firms direct or indirectly. He was chosen to prevent Prosecution of power brokers such as Union Trust Bank, Ritcorp, Rokel Leaf Tobacco Company and the list goes on. He should be thoroughly investigated by the parliament.
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: Sadam Insane
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Date Posted: 15:39:01 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
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Do not bug him for job now. I know some of you will start to call him to bring you on board. Then the next thing you will do is to mess his books. Have you ever called him since you left the country? Hell no. Now he is your brother. As far as I know he is the only son to his parent. Now back off. This no to creole business.
Yes na so a say.
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: Jay
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Date Posted: 16:05:20 10/09/07 ()
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I don't need a job in Salone.If I need one,I can get one.I am doing fine for now because luckily I had all my priorities right when I emigrated to the U.S. unlike some of you.I know the president personally for your information so I don't need my childhood buddy for a job.Got that.
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 16:23:33 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
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No I don't get it. What are you trying to say? Having your priorities right does'nt mean that all is well with you. I bet you if he calls you, you will be the first to say yes. Why don't you just come straight. No body will harm you my friend that is your country. And plus, you have not even seen this guys work. Now you are praising him just because you grew up with him. John Benjamine was good too. Now he is a public enemy number 1. Let us all wait and see what Mr Carew will do. It will all be out soon. We need to see some qualifing openion that he rendered to the companies or government agencies his firm audited. Based on what I know all the openion they rendered to the government were unqualified Openion but the books for some of those departments were unbalance.
You know the President personally? no wonder he appointed your childhood body. Go fugure. Sabi Sabi nae de poil da country de.
yes na so a say
Insane I am
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: Jay
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Date Posted: 16:42:01 10/09/07 ()
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I don't need a job in Sa Lone,right.I did my first degree at FBC and had my MBA in a top tiered school.I am currently a Federal employee and I can't leave my current remuneration to pick up a job in Sa Lone.If I do it would be because of service and I am not prepared to serve at the moment.I have a young family to take care off.I hope this goes into your thick skull.
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: truth hurts
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Date Posted: 22:13:21 10/11/07 ()
Email Address: truthe@aol.com
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Message:
federal jobs dont pay as much in the usa. if you have an mba and you really went to a top tier school in usa you would be working for a top firm like some of us. stop lying on here for people back home lol. government jobs in the usa only good thing is benefits you dont make much as compared to those in the private sector
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: osama bin crazy
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Date Posted: 22:18:38 10/09/07 ()
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Message:
jay why are you bragging so much?First of all if you have all your priorities right? why are you not in freetown? bo lef we ya na so so talk talk. sadam insane is my blood brother and he is so right.ar get job for you. Go sell bonga na kinjimmy.........nar me say so
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: Jay
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Date Posted: 04:24:23 10/10/07 ()
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I am not bragging bro.I spent sleepless nights to achieve my goals that I set earlier in life.Why should I be in Freetown,a banana republic,that has been decimated by your folks.
Anyway,ar min don sell me bonga nar king jimmy,na di profit ar dee enjoy so.
Your friend Sadam Insane,is my Maryland buddy as I live in Bethesda.
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 23:27:03 10/09/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-68-49-178-95.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 68.49.178.95
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You got that right
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 13:15:39 10/09/07 ()
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D.O. Carew was my boss for several years and I have the utmost respect for him as a professional accountant. I remember spending many nights with him talking about what should be done to fix Sierra Leone's economic mess. I would never have thought that the opportunity would actually come so soon, and so unexpectedly! This guy will not let his country down, I can assure you.
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: pro
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Date Posted: 19:41:07 10/09/07 ()
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Dollars,Diamonds,gold etc are hard to resist.
Subject: Re: David Carew: Nominated Minister of Finance & Development
From: FAD
To: All
Date Posted: 10:08:30 10/10/07 ()
Email Address: arlynd@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 65.91.143.30
Message:
so are you telling me you can't resist such?
if you can't resist such gifts, then there are people in salone who can not only resist them but can turn their back on the corrupt givers... like our mama Christianna Thorpe did...
so next time u got to keep that in your head
"NOT TO ALL SALONE MAN BIG YAI N TIFF YAI...RESPECT PASS BELFUL"
Subject: Calibre of Koroma's Cabinet is Impressive So Far
From: Patriotic News Coverage
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Date Posted: 12:22:26 10/09/07 ()
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NEWS : Politics
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Sierra Leone: Calibre of Koroma's Cabinet is Impressive So Far
By Awareness Times
Oct 9, 2007, 16:26 Email this article
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President Ernest Koroma has yesterday October 8th 2007, announced the names of Ten Sierra Leoneans who are going to be members of his Ministerial Cabinet if Parliament approves them. The list of names was mostly greeted with wild applause both locally and in the Diaspora.
At a social gathering yesterday in London, Sierra Leoneans went wild with enthusiasm over the calibre of names. On several Internet Discussions monitored by this presshouse, only a few comments were made criticising the names of the yet-incomplete Cabinet. The overwhelming mood was supportive applause.
Here in the capital city which remains a Koroma stronghold, the names were received with wild hoops of joy from people with ears stationed to radio sets.
The Sierra Leoneans are:
Mr. David Omashola Carew, the current Head of KPMG-Sierra Leone, the country's leading Accounting & Management Consultancy Firm is nominated to be Finance & Development Minister.
Mrs. Zainab Hawa Bangura, a Sierra Leonean considered by many to be the most influential Sierra Leonean on the global stage will leave the United Nations in Liberia to be Foreign Affairs & International Relations Minister.
Zainab Bangura Meets with George Bush at the White House
Lawyer Abdul Serry-Kamal, a brilliant lawyer will be Justice Minister and Attorney General.
Alhaji Ibrahim Ben Kargbo, the President of the Sierra Leone Association of Journalists who has an uncanny hold over local journalists will be Information & Communication Minister.
Alhaji Abubakar Jalloh who missed being Koroma's Running Mate in 2002 and who lost to Sam-Sumana the bid to be Running mate in 2007, has been pacified with the position of Minister of Mineral Resources. A trained Geologist, he once worked as an executive in the Mineral Sector but went into exile from Sierra Leone in 1992 when the NPRC Military Junta overthrew the APC. He spent several years in self-exile.
Dr. Soccoh Kabia, the illustrious son of one of Sierra Leone's formidable female legends, the late Paramount Chief Ella Koblo Gulama will represent the People's Movement for Democratic Change (PMDC) in Cabinet as Minister of Health. He is a trained medical doctor with over thirty years experience in the United States of America.
Dr. Sam Sesay will be Minister of Agriculture & Food Security. He is believed to have once served the NPRC of Maada Bio. There are conflicting reports as to whether he represents PMDC or APC.
Alhaji Alpha Kanu, the well-spoken gentleman who has been Koroma's Spokesman for the last year will be Minister of Presidential and Public Affairs. He has been in the last Parliament (2002-2007) representing Port Loko District under the APC but was denied the Party Symbol this year. He is severally cited as being responsible for the growing confidence Koroma enjoyed in the pre-elections period as a result of his smooth talking skills. He once suffered his airline business leaving pilgrims stranded but he was cleared of any personal wrongdoing.
Alpha Kanu shown here hugging former VP Berewa shortly before
Run-off Elections, has been bending over backwards to sell Koroma's
Unity & Reconciliation Message to all Sierra Leoneans.
Mr. John Saad will represent the PMDC as Minister of Housing & Infrastructural Development. Saad's mother is reportedly from Jojoima in Southeastern Sierra Leone whilst his father was a Lebanese merchant. He was once Chairman of the Sierra Leone People's Party (SLPP) in London in the nineties but he resigned from the SLPP in 2006 to join the PMDC.
Captain Benjamin O. N. Davies will be Minister of Lands, Country Planning and the Environment. There are conflicting reports as to whether Davies is representing the PMDC or is an APC Member himself. He once served as a Counterpart General Manager at the Nation's Ports Authority but he fell out with the Government and had to leave the country. He is a very likable gentleman from a respectable Freetown family.
The enthusiasm of Sierra Leoneans for the new Cabinet is not unconnected to the fact that all of the names have never been Ministers and many of them have distinguished themselves in their fields of practice and sport credible backgrounds.
David Carew, who will be the most senior Cabinet Minister as Finance Minister, is indisputably one of Sierra Leone's finest financial figures with a very credible reputation and with skills that make him regularly soughted in places as far away as South East Asia as well as in many of the world's capital cities. He is extremely hardworking, well known as a self-made man and his ascendance to the position of Finance & Development Minister has left many Sierra Leoneans hopeful for the future.
Several of the new Ministers spoke to Awareness Times yesterday evening shortly after the announcement.
Alhaji Ibrahim Ben Kargbo, the Information Minister designate who is going to be the Minister mostly interacting with the media was very delighted and enthusiastic as he spoke to Awareness Times.
"I am taking this appointment as a major challenge. Sierra Leone has serious work to be done for it. The people have placed immense faith in all of us and so we must deliver. This is a Government that simply will not fail." I.B. Kargbo strongly promised.
"We are going to use this country's resources to change the country's fortunes for the better," I.B. Kargbo assured last night.
Kargbo, who will be the new Spokesman for the Government also assured that President Koroma was "dead serious" with his promise that there will be "no vendetta".
"We are not here for any vendetta against any political opponent. Everyone can rest assured that there is going to be no witch-hunting under President Ernest Koroma. Our total focus is to move the country forward. Progress is long overdue here," Kargbo said.
Meanwhile, for his part, the nominated Minister of Finance and Development, David Carew, who bestrides a successful accounting and management consultancy empire that has seen him severally cited as one of Sierra Leone's richest men, assured of his "complete dedication" to serving Sierra Leone. Speaking to Awareness Times as the most senior Minister-designate, he spoke on behalf of his colleagues.
"Having come from where we were as a nation, we are committed to give our best to take the nation forward. We are all going to put aside our personal empires, our wealth and our personal ambitions and make whatever sacrifice is neccessary to take this land forward," Carew promised.
We have carried Carew’s Profile in this edition and we will carry Profiles of other Ministers subsequently.
Awareness Times wishes the President and his new Team the best of luck as we await the unveiling of the names of his other Ministers!
© Copyright by Awareness Times Newspaper in Freetown, Sierra Leone.
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Subject: Controversy = $ in U.S
From: george
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Date Posted: 10:23:13 10/09/07 ()
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If Dr Blyden is capable of provoking such passion and emotions then she must have something to say.
In my view, it seems Dr Blyden is a woman with strong opinions and will not back down when confronted, she reminds me of Hillary Clinton who ignites equal reactions from her archrivals.
If she is really in the Maryland region, we will like to get in touch with her for some opportunities.
She has the opportunity of becoming an excellent adjunct professor on the Lecture scene, or work for a very reputable endowment that is involved in international studies and international “Africa” journalism, if she wishes to stay in this region.
She will make a perfect candidate considering her life experiences. In addition, to what we have learned about her on this forum.
Subject: Re : Alpha Wurie
From: Jan
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Date Posted: 08:33:52 10/09/07 ()
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APC TAKING BRIBES FROM THE LIKES OF ALPHA WURIE TO SHUT UP!
Posted by THE VOICE OF PROGRESS [host81-155-114-203.range81-155.btcentralplus.com at 81.155.114.203] on October 08, 2007 at 15:04:38:
It is reliably learnt that the APC government has embarked on recovering monies for their personal pockets from the so-called kabba kleptocratic club to suppress any form of investigation. Top among the ministers coughing up large sums of money is the notorious education minister, Alpha Wurie. Is this true? if it is, then APC is not serious to help transform our nation.
These same people you are collecting monies from to shut up will give you away to the people. Honour and nobility is better than riches. Honour and nobility can give you all the riches they have with committing a crime. Do not fall for such temptations. let them give back to Sierra leone what is sierra leone's and your government will be hailed as a team ready for transformation.