Subject: What's the Measurement of a Government's Success?
From: Yardstick
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Date Posted: 08:25:59 12/04/07 ()
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We talk easily about successful and unsuccessful governments as if by themselves leaders can create success or give rise to failure. We often tend to forget about externalities which may create success or failure not necessarily because a leader or government is not up to it.
It is true that effective leaders work hard and are able to discern environmental opportunities which if properly and strategically harnessed can bring about incremental change or at times, even forward leaps, whereas there may be others who can't see the opportunities or threats let alone the idea of taking advantage of them or avoiding them.
Internal strengths and weaknesses and their relationship to external opportunities and threats have become fashionable in carving strategies for success but understanding their interplay can also be a key to unravelling some of our perennial challenges in managing African governments.
A friend of mine reminded me not long ago that the BCG matrix and related SWOT analysis are good working tools but leaders and their lieutenants must commit themselves through hard work to strive for excellence. He also asked me to tell him whether an understanding of the Seven "S" Framework could be more helpful in managing governments and organizations. By the way, the seven s's were identified by Mckinsey, a rival consulting firm to BCG and they are about Strategy; Structure (structure of government, organization); Systems(operating systems); Style(of leadership);Staff(competence of people appointed to positions); Skill(skill mix of functionaries); and Super-ordinate goals(aiming high).
I am sure there may be more attributes for achieving success. Can anyone add to the list of things our leaders must aspire to in order to achieve success?
Subject: Election results
From: Question
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Date Posted: 04:22:29 12/04/07 ()
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Now Christiana Thorpe has come up with final figures and I am glad, Ernest Koroma still happens to be winner.So why did she announce fraudulent figures on 17 Sep?????Did she do it to please the foreigners, or did she do it to tarnish the image of APC???We must know the real story, otherwise, there will be suggestions that APC won through fraudulent results
Subject: Sierra Leone
From: Zaddik Isaac
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Date Posted: 23:40:16 12/03/07 ()
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The work that lies ahead of our dreams
Subject: An Apologt to Sierra Leoneans: Una Lef Kakkeh
From: Siaka Margai
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Date Posted: 06:45:56 12/04/07 ()
Email Address: siakamargai@yahoo.com
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Thanks and please forgive my two Grand Parents for putting SL in this mess (The two fathers of Corruption)
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone
From: Theodora Godwin
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Date Posted: 05:08:28 12/04/07 ()
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Hello Zaddick,
Thanks for your posting. It will be more fitting for you to send such "VALUABLE INFORMATION," to all those STALWART ECONOMIC EXPERTS OF THE NEW GOVERNMENT, whose duty and responsibility it is to PRESENT CONCRETE,SOUND AND ACHIEVABLE ECONOMIC PLANS when advising the President, ON THE DEVELOPMENT ISSUES AT HAND IN MOVING SIERRA LEONE FORWARD. Yes indeed it is "A LONG AND WINDING ROAD FILLED WITH CRATERS THAT LIE AHEAD OF OUR DREAMS." Can it become a "REALITY? YES IT CAN." We are AIMING AT THE SKY, so that when we Fall, WE CAN LAND ON THE MOUNTAIN TOP. Our God Given Natural Resources, Agricultural and Marine Resources have been used through SMUGGLING TO BUILD OTHER NATIONS. WITH CONCRETE CHECKS AND BALANCES IN PLACE, WE TOO CAN REACH ALL THOSE DEVELOPMENTAL INDICATORS THAT OTHERS ARE THROWING IN THE FACES OF SIERRA LEONEANS. If we are so "BANKRUPT IN ALL ASPECTS OF DEVELOPMENT, WHY ARE ALL THOSE PARASITES,SCAVENGERS,BUSINESS SCOUNDRELS STILL FLOCKING TO SIERRA LEONE? (GIVE THEM THE GUNS, LET THEM KILL THEMSELVES WHILE WE CONTINUE TO ROB THEM BLIND.) This has been the MANTRA since time in MEMORIAL. WHAT DOES UKRAINE, IVORY COAST, ETC; HAVE BETTER THAN SIERRA LEONE? With SOUND ECONOMIC AND FINANCIAL PLANNING IN PLACE, WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF ACHIEVING OUR DREAMS. I KNOW YOU WILL SAY KEEP DREAMING,TO BE HONEST? I WILL KEEP ON DREAMING. ONLY GOD AND FOOLS DON'T CHANGE. 2007 HAS OPENED THE EYES OF SIERRA LEONEANS. A NEW DAWN HAS FOSTERED CHANGE IN ALL WELL MEANING SIERRA LEONEANS WHO LOVE MOTHER SIERRA LEONE. THE BLINDERS HAVE BEEN REMOVED, NO DOING BUSINESS AS USUAL WILL CONTINUE TO FLOURISH. ALL THE SCOUNDRELS WILL BE REMOVED IN TIME FROM OUR SOCIETY? FREE--TOWN WILL CEASE TO BE. Thanks for your contribution.
Subject: FOR BAMBAY LANS KAMARA
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 22:27:20 12/03/07 ()
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What a relief brother !!! Soooooooo glad to know that the sick joke about you was evil and no fun at all. Wishing you all the best and may you live to see your grand children's children.
Love, your Sa Lone brother.
Subject: Re: FOR BAMBAY LANS KAMARA
From: Nar Me
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Date Posted: 03:25:07 12/04/07 ()
Email Address: thenewsletter@hotmail.com
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Bambay, welcome back. Glad to know that you are in the land of the living. It was indeed a sick joke. May God shower His many blessings on you.
Subject: Re: FOR BAMBAY LANS KAMARA
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:52:08 12/03/07 ()
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Albert Moinina,
Thank you very much. I just went and investigated what is amiss because I did not expect Sierra Leoneans to play like that. However, I was able to deduce that this is a forum I have been contributing on a daily bases since 2005. For about two months now I have not contributed there. I sensed that during the time, as it has been happening since 2005, insults have been directed against me on this forum so as to discourage me to continue with them. It is a bid to lure me back to the forum. Though I know of the ploy, I thought to myself, if I am not of service there would have been no need for such tricks. But recently when these attacks failed, they came-up with this "joke" and when that failed, they sent me an e-mail indicating that Winakabs Europe has added me to the list of his friends. But what they have failed to realize is that I cannot be lured by arrogance, insults and disrespect; I will rather die alone. I normally disassociate from people who try such tricks with me because I am confident that our relationship will not go too far. I give respect because I want it back and will never respect anyone who disrespects me.
But they are slow to learn that about me. That is how I am and cannot change it for no one.
Thanks once again for your concern.
I am alive for now until God wants me, which is unavoidable. I am more worried about living than dieing. It is hard to live meaningfully than to die because the latter lasts but a minute. The other draws on-and-on-and-on.
Thank you.
Your Sierra Leonean brother.
Subject: Bambay alive now than ever, ask Sen. Clinton, Biden & Obama
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:04:29 12/03/07 ()
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You mean among six billion people who hear me day and night you did not hear me? You must have been a fool. This is no longer the forties, it is a new Millennium, technological age baby. How bad do you want me to die? Will you eat my flesh? What will you gain from it, an award, riches, recognition, education or what? You will gain nothing my friend so why worry. You Will be mad when history reveals the truth about those who contributed adversely and I.
Ladies and gentlemen, I just found this post and tried to ignore it but I couldn't because of the message in it.
To whomever might have posted it, I would like you to continue thinking that way because, it reveals how important I have become. More importantly, I would like you to realize that the amount of time spent on earth matters but little. What matters the most is what contributions one makes while on earth: his legacy.
I am glad you were able to voice out the venom in your heart though you have kept it in your for so long and it has bothered you that all you have wish to go wrong with me has not happened. Well, I believe that comes from my love of God, love of life and love for the progress of the world particularly the suffering nations and peoples that has kept me intact.
Great men have come and gone but life goes on. As indicated, my death is a loss but yours will be meaningless otherwise you would focus on what little or major contributions you are making towards making the world a better place. Ten chances to one, in any situation most people who see the death of others as their comfort are doing nothing significant towards their development, the development of their communities nor the world therefore, they see death as the easy-way-out for others and them.
My situation and what caused it is nothing deserving death. As a matter of fact, it is a matter that I should have enjoyed from. But people like you who know no other way-out or cannot reason-out to find out why things happen have tried to stop the way and even make death threats but fella, death is the last thing I fear. I have never feared death. I fear being marginalized without me making rectification than death because my image is what will remain a legacy.
You probably do not value your life. I do and is due to that value of life and life after death that makes me stronger and would rather make rectification that will live an intact image after I am gone.
To tell you the truth, nothing happened to my image because whatever people like you say or write will not go down in history but what Historians write. We live in technology age and I have been watched by satellite twenty-four-seven through-out the years and Internationally therefore, one nation will lie or distort the truth. Your voice is not loud enough. It is reasoning that will speak volumes.
If hundred of your kind hate me, among six billion people some of whom have got to know me better, I will still feel loved. Especially as I speak to one I adore and finds everything I want in a person. Who gives a rat spark if you think I am dead? It don't mean much because it is your loss in that you will no longer have one you look-up to to feel better about yourself. I don't need you for my self-esteem, you do. This must be the ignorant ones who think the world sorrounds them or that Bambay has to be impressed by their nonentities to make them feel good.
I am alive and kicking, did I say kicking? Now let us party! Rai nor wolie, wokay!
Subject: Re: Bambay alive now than ever, ask Sen. Clinton, Biden & Obama
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:13:57 12/03/07 ()
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We talking about democracy they talking drive-bye. Cumbaya!
http://www.leoneclub.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=15682
Subject: Salone Girls are the most beautiful - Videos
From: Panlamp
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Date Posted: 21:27:15 12/03/07 ()
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These videos are hot!!!!!
Subject: ANTHONY SESAY AM SORRY.
From: SEDOM LUK
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Date Posted: 21:09:26 12/03/07 ()
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ON MY LINE OF DUTY I SEE VIOLENT ACT EVERYDAY.I AM NOT THE TYPE TO CAUSE ONE. I AM A NURSE IN THE ARMY,STILL SERVING IN IRAQ AM JUST HOME TO SUCK BOBBY. I DO NOT WANT TO GO AFTER YOU, WHAT I MENT WAS I DO NOT WANT TO DRILL HOLES ON YOUR POSTINGS. I DO NOT MEAN TO HARM MY SALEONE BROTHER.
I DO IDOLIZE HONEST AND SMART PEOPLE,BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT I DO NOT DISAGREE WITH THEM ,WHEN I THINK THEY NEED SOME CORRECTIONS ON THEIR THOUGHT.
IN SIERRA LEONE I DO NOT NEED TO FIGHT TO BE NOTICED. MY PARENTS HAVE DONE THAT FOR US.AM FROM A POLITICAL FAMILY, THE PAST ADMINSTRATION MY IN-LAWS AND A BLOOD BROTHER WERE THERE,THIS PRESENT APC MY MOTHER AND BROTHERS ARE THERE.
THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH YOUR POSTING WAS IF THE PAST ADMINSTRATION KNEW OF A CABLE VANDALIZING RING THAT INVOLVED THE OPPOSITION LEADER,S BROTHER WHAT DID THEY DO ABOUT? TONY ,IF ANYBODY IS CAUGHT STEALING THOES CABLE BELIEVE THAT PERSON WILL BE IN A JAIL CELL, AM NOT SAYING THIS BECAUSE ARE SUCK APC BOBBY BUT DAT NAR DE RITE TIN FOR DO. LEH WE WOKE FOR BRING SALEONE UP. LOVE YOU ALL.
Subject: Try this Bambay
From: SGK
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Date Posted: 20:03:04 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
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I hope you like this one.
Subject: Re: Try this Bambay
From: SGK
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Date Posted: 20:23:33 12/03/07 ()
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Bambay,
I am just trying to get you one of Bob Marley's greatest songs but i don't know where i am going wrong. The link seems to be o.k but i can't figure out the problem.
Subject: Re: Try this Bambay
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 21:02:37 12/03/07 ()
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Thanks.
Subject: CAN SOMEONE HELP ME
From: J.B.K
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Date Posted: 19:54:34 12/03/07 ()
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Someone from Freetown asked for me to buy him a cell phone but not sure what kind of phone to buy. I was told just this morning that any T-Mobile phone will work but a second opinion will help.
Subject: Re: CAN SOMEONE HELP ME
From: TWO Sense
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Date Posted: 20:40:37 12/03/07 ()
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Any kind of T-mobile phone will work, but you need to unlock it or it will not work in Sierra Leone.
Subject: Latest News.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 19:50:21 12/03/07 ()
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Pictured left, Pa ZUBAH SAYS "Cassava Leaves is not for goat alone." In a interview with the Editor-General of the other newspaper he said, he likes cassa leaves with T-Bone Steak. However, he decline to comment on the recent dental work he did on a patient at gaguluga Dental Hospital at maluma.
Thak you.
Subject: A non says goodbye to Jesus
From: Amen
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Date Posted: 19:12:24 12/03/07 ()
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Amen wait man de tell goodbye na church.
Christiana Thorpe announced her doctored but bungled run-off results on the morning of September 17, 2007. Her undoing and exposure has now arisen from the facts I have always asserted that she and her computer expert Carlos worked backwards from figures they had manipulated. Thus on that fateful morning, at 8 o�clock, she produced figures of 950,407 and 789,651 votes for Ernest Bai Koroma and Solomon Berewa respectively. But at 8am, those figures did not tally with the total votes cast and so they pushed their news conference back and hurried to the computer room ensuring that Eddie Nyallay and Winston Minah were left behind.
When they came back, they still had some of the 8:00am print outs with them but those copies were quickly shuffled off the table to prevent Eddie Nyalley and Winston Minah from laying eyes on them but as luck would have it, those 8:00am printout copies landed into the appropriate hands eventually.
UN's Victor Angelo: imported a bunch of either inept or criminal electoral advisers to Sierra Leone!
I note the recent �challenge� by the versatile and formidable Awareness Times Publisher for me to produce those 8:00am figures and I hereby declare my intention to publicly hand them over for publication to any local media house who wishes to publish them. Just ask for copies of those 8:00 print outs and PUAWUI will make them available to you!
Moving on� As I said, they went back into the computer room and at 9.30 Ms. Thorpe came out with figures that she not only thought, but hoped would hoodwink us into accepting without any critical analyses what she announced as the final results with ballots from 477 polling stations invalidated. Readers may recall that I have repeatedly accused that in the doctored figures released, the votes from Kailahun District had been reduced from 165,913 at 8:00am to 125,414 at 9:30am, (that is from 90.7% to 68.19 %). Since that time we in the SLPP have consistently demanded from the NEC chairperson an explanation of where those figures had disappeared, but both she and her Carlos had arrogantly kept sealed lips.
Dr. Sama Banya [Puawui]: a brilliant Mathematician!
Now, two months and eleven days later, or 71 days later, on November 29, NEC announces what is described in the AWOKO newspaper of November30, as "NEC-release-(Invalid) Kailahun Court Barray results" which gives additional 29,004 and 169,054 to Koroma and Berewa respectively. According to which Koroma�s total is 979,411 and Berewa�s 958,705 and Koroma wins by 20,706 votes.
Here again, we have glaring discrepancies which Ms. Thorpe hopes we would miss. But this woman forgets that before the break in the announcement of results on September 13, NEC had announced, nay printed out that as at that time for Kailahun District, 181stations had been announced with 242 pending, that is a total of 423 stations for Kailahun. On the morning of her September 17 announcement, she gave the results from 332 stations with 91 unanounced for Kailahun. Now on November 29, she tells the world that she invalidated only 90 stations in Kailahun; again we are bound to ask what she has done with the remaining one station.
Would Carlos and his team of either totally inept or totally criminal "United Nations Electoral Advisers" still be working on it or does Ms. Thorpe think that she has come to the end of her cat and mouse tricks? Let me help Ms. Thorpe out here. Let us take a look at the Koinadugu figures.
On September 13th and all earlier releases of results of the Presidential Run-off Elections held Sept 8th, Koinadugu District had a grand total of ONLY 348 stations of which 289 was announced and 59 unannounced was the status for Koinadugu as at Sept 13th according to Ms. Thorpe�s own announcement. Let us look at her November 29 figures. Koinadugu has mysteriously added an extra 1 station and now has 349 stations whilst Kailahun has lost one station and now has only 422. These are not my figures. These are figures released by Ms Thorpe herself. If you have questions as to how Kailahun lost and Koinadugu gained, you will have to ask Thorpe or Carlos Valenzuela; that is if you can find Valenzuela!
Let us move on further. I have the 8:00am results in my possession which shows the total number of voters (BEFORE DOCTORING UNDER THE GUISE OF INVALIDATION) to be 2,042,601 voters. However, Ms. Thorpe now wants us to believe that the total votes were only 1,783,851 plus her newly added 201,670 votes making those who cast votes on September 8th to be only 1,985,521. According to Thorpe, 57,080 VOTES HAVE SIMPLY DISAPPEARED!!
Christiana Thorpe was always very poor at Mathematics!
Also, Thorpe says only 1,985,521 voted September 13th against the 1,984,106 who voted on August 11th!
Thorpe and her United Nations handlers want the world to believe that despite the 102% who she claims over-voted in Kailahun plus the 105% who over-voted in Pujehun to name just two of the so-called over voting area�s figures, still, there were only a mere 1,415 more voters on Sept 13 than on Aug 11 on which latter date they say virtually no over-voting happened?
The NEC chair has been described in glowing terms by people like the UN�s Victor Angelo whose hands are far from clean in this whole episode of regime change. Former US Ambassador Thomas Neal Hull describes her as follows, "Christiana Thorpe, a formidable woman of great integrity, a former nun, who would not be cowed by politicians." Of course there are other factors which though not cowering but could equally affect people�s judgment.
What is true of this lady is that she has dictatorial tendencies which make her take unilateral decisions which she executes in the name of the commission. On three occasions all four of her colleagues led by Commissioners Algassimu Jah and Olu-Williams revolted against her but for the intervention of former President Tejan Kabbah, she may not have survived long enough to indulge in such shadowy behaviour. On yet another occasion it was the intervention of former VP Solomon Berewa. This is whom Angelo and the regime change brigade refer to as an angel. Ha!
If Ms. Thorpe should harbour any hope of redeeming her reputation with us (the large number of Sierra Leoneans) who voted for Solomon Berewa, NEC should immediately publish polling station results country-wide especially up North and Western areas. This should include the district, locat1on, centre number, polling station number, registered number of voters, total votes cast and any excess votes which would lead to invalidation. As readers can see, the gap is closing!
� Copyright by Awareness Times Newspaper in Freetown, Sierra Leone.
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Subject: Africa has these minds in America too you know!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 18:57:16 12/03/07 ()
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http://coestudents.valdosta.edu/irock110/emeagwali.htm
Subject: BAMBAY
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 18:54:38 12/03/07 ()
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Call or email me tonight please.
Subject: This is the Democratic procedure. The Rule of Law!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 18:47:41 12/03/07 ()
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First published at Fourah Bay College in 1973 FBI after Sierra Leone/Liberian carjackers in the U.S.
Written by Cocorioko Newspaper Limited
Monday, 03 December 2007
The Federal Bureau of Investigations ( FBI) is trying to break a ring of car-jackers from Sierra Leone and Liberia. The perpetuators probably came to the U.S. to seek the American Dream but what they are now engaged in has stunned their countrymen and women.
THE NEWSFLASH of Philadelphia reports :
PHILADELPHIA (AP) � Three West African men accused of participating in two armed carjackings are charged in a federal warrant.
If convicted of all the charges announced Friday, the defendants would face a minimum mandatory sentence of 35 years imprisonment without parole. The maximum is life without parole.
The defendants are from Liberia and Sierra Leone. Authorities in the Philadelphia area have been pursuing a handful of African carjacking cells over the past year. Officials say the culprits prey on suburbanites
THE PHILADELPHIA INQUIRER REPORTS
The FBI is trying to break up African carjacking rings that prey on suburbanites with luxury SUVs and quickly ship the vehicles abroad.
The crimes reached a harrowing climax last week when three men from Sierra Leone allegedly carjacked two women hours apart -- one of whom grabbed their gun long enough to free her 7-year-old daughter from the back seat.
The gun went off during the scuffle, striking one suspect in the thumb.
''The thieves want the car intact. �They get paid to deliver that vehicle with its keys,'' said Delaware County District Attorney G. Michael Green, whose office is prosecuting one of the two attacks Wednesday.
A shootout with police ensued that night when the suspects drove the second stolen vehicle into a stakeout, officials said. Green's office has filed a long list of charges, including robbery and aggravated assault, against Unisa Kamara, 19, of Dale City, Va.; Jakuba Kamara, 29, of Philadelphia; and Omaru Sannoh, 20, the injured suspect.
While the trio await court hearings, police are trying to determine whether they have ties to a handful of other African carjacking ''cells'' they have pursued in the past year. At least five other African men have been charged in federal court in Philadelphia.
Meanwhile, the FBI this month issued an al3rt for James ''Tow-P'' Dou, believed to head a Liberian group that pulled off a rash of area carjackings this summer.
And while some officials believe women are more often targeted, FBI spokeswoman Jerri Williams isn't so sure.
''They see the (desired) car, they've got a gun and they want you out. I don't think it makes a difference if it's a man or a woman,'' she said.
Typically, the rings pay $500 to $1,500 to a young immigrant assigned to steal a car, investigators said. Other people in the ring forge titles, handle the shipping and get the vehicle from the port in Africa or Europe to the intended buyer, perhaps through several intermediaries, they said.
And while it's nothing new for stolen American cars to end up overseas, thieves are apparently resorting to carjacking because new luxury cars can be nearly impossible to steal without a key.
''They can't wait until the victim parks their car and steal it, because they need the key,'' said Philadelphia Police Lt. Frank Venore. ''But their propensity to violence is scary, because they're young males and they are obviously armed with firearms.''
Donzo, who came to the United States in 2003, did well enough at a Philadelphia public high school to win admission to college. But instead of enrolling in the fall of 2006, he was arrested for trying to carjack a nurse at gunpoint outside her Bensalem home that September.
The plot failed when Donzo and an accomplice, even with the key, could not start the vehicle's tricky ignition system. He was convicted during a summer trial in which co-defendant Joseph Jarlee testified against him, Gray said.
______________________________________________________How about the government and the media sees an individual any giving day or every day. The brain failed huh!
That is how it works in any civilized nation. A certain crime or crimes have to be committed first, then culprits are investigated or posted as wanted on the FBI post, if arrested taken to prison then tried in a court of Law. That is what due process is all about.
When he brain fails.
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Subject: Mory Kante - Ha!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:46:27 12/03/07 ()
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Yeke Yeke
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bdvx7AFsKrk
Subject: Yeah!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:34:56 12/03/07 ()
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Isn't she!
Subject: Re: Yeah!
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 17:40:28 12/03/07 ()
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Yo Bambay. Good to see you posting, Youtubing and doing your thing bro. I'm gonna listen to all the songs in your posts. Great to hear from you again.
Your fan,
Fen Plaba!
Subject: Do you wanna dance!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:31:39 12/03/07 ()
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Well this was my time.
Subject: Re: Do you wanna dance!
From: SGK
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Date Posted: 17:41:54 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
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Welcome back Bambay, we're all happy to here from you again. Almost, everyone is worried about you.
Subject: Re: Do you wanna dance!
From: SGK
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Date Posted: 17:40:55 12/03/07 ()
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Welcome back Bambay, we're all happy to here from you again. Almost, everyone is worried about your whereabout.
Subject: King Loggy these are songs of the late sixties early seventi
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:27:53 12/03/07 ()
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This are very old reggae songs. This song came out about the same time songs like Jim and whole in the bucket came out. They even came before "sweet mother by Prince Nicole M'barga. These were way before the Jackson five came to existence. But they were nice during their days. Though I was very young friends and school mates of my elder brother use to take me to dance hall because I could dance very well; well I am still a thriller but that is beside the point.
They are very oldies but goodies. I still like to sing them to bring history back to mammorie. Hey, whats up with your friend? I respect her very much and can't stop thinking about how much she loves her beloved country, Sierra Leone.
Subject: For KING LOGGY
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 17:08:43 12/03/07 ()
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Message:
I will be visiting my sisters on the East Coast. I might see you. I will be leaving Sacramento, California on the 15th. of December on Southwest Airlines to land in Dulles Airport on the very day.
I will give you a call before Christmass or on Christmass day. I guess I will be having fun after a long time.
See you there.
Subject: BLK: YOU DID WHAT NO MAN HAS DONE
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 18:28:27 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.16.51.222
Message:
You have my number please call me.
Subject: Re: BLK: YOU DID WHAT NO MAN HAS DONE
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:15:23 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195189.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.189
Message:
I surely will.
Subject: UPSIDE DOWN WORLD
From: O'toole
To: All
Date Posted: 16:41:51 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: otoolekargbo@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-71-74-71-190.insight.res.rr.com at 71.74.71.190
Message:
"If the world is upside down the way it is now, wouldn't we have to turn it over to get it to stand up straight?" -Eduardo Galeano
Subject: Il divenire del mio pensiero
From: Francesco Sinibaldi
To: All
Date Posted: 15:06:03 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: Frasin66@libero.it
Entered From: host219-33-dynamic.8-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it at 87.8.33.219
Message:
Questo � un pensiero
che siede nel
sole a fiatar giovent�,
mira del pianto
l�amata armonia che
dolce gioisce come
candido lume al
passar delle morti
ed al fine, nel chiarore
del sole, dona
l�eterno ai suoi occhi
beati.
http://www.casafree.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=26382&forum=10
Subject: Sierra Leone Prisons
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:26 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
How can Sierra Leone attract someone like this to help reform the prison system?
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone Prisons
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 16:14:33 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: brabanxx@aol.com
Entered From: static-216-83-121-130.sniparpa.net at 216.83.121.130
Message:
Erica:
I do not think it is a matter of how can Sa. Lone attract people like Mr. Konteh. I think it is a question of "is Mr. Konteh ready to sacrifice for his homeland?" Most times some of us in the diaspora will not mind to go back home, but with our kids; there are a lot of limitations in our movements. We have to see them through college. Having said that, I think one way to attract people from the diaspora would be awarding of scholarships to the kids. This was what NDMC & DELCO did back in the day.
Let's go back to manpower. In New Jersey where I live, there is another administrator (Sierra Leonean-A. S. Jalloh) in New Jersey's largest prison system, see below:
When South Woods State Prison opened in the spring of 1997, it became the newest and largest facility in the New Jersey Department of Corrections. South Woods provides a substance abuse treatment program, regional medical clinics, an extended care unit, a dialysis unit and a regional food service that provides thousands of meals per day to institutions throughout the state.
Building Footprint: 1,300,000 sq.ft.
Population: 3,200 inmates
One of his sargeants is a Sierra Leonean also. At the Riverfront Prison in Camden, Nj, there are a couple of Sierra Leoneans who are COs. The head of the social services is also a Sierra Leonean. We are not lacking in terms of personnel; what we are lacking are(i) patriots who are willing to go back and serve; (ii)a populace that is willing to embrace us rather than engage in the PHD syndrome.
I know over ten of my classmates who are heads of hospital and university departments. another classmate is a pilot who has been in the air professionally for over sixteen years. The latter is ready to set up shop in Sierra Leone-GRACE AIRLINE- God willing!
Despite all our disagreements on this forum, we will all agree for once that Sierra Leoneans are a bunch of brilliant people to the core. Again during my school days I sat in classes with people that were born abroad as we used to say. Back then Sierra leone was a place to reckon with. There were places and things like PZ & its coffee bar, toys,and comics, Kinsway, UAC Motors, Breckwoldt for your VWs, GBO, The A & Lucien Genet Cos.,Benthworth Finance, public transportation (The Road Transport Corp)-anyone remember the school bus voucher system? I need not say more.
Back then the SLPP left a solid foundation on which the NRC and APC had a very smooth and comfortable headstart. It is a known fact that history can repeat itself. With the right people around HE EBK Sierra Leone will be able to redeem herself and restore her past glories. God bless Sierra Leone.
Subject: For the JCs and Home Based: JayBee's Night Club website
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 14:42:47 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.208.159.19
Message:
JayBee's Night Club Sierra Leone launches website with information on the club and contact information. Check it out.
http://www.jaybeesnightclub.com/
Subject: Kabs kanu --- Request
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 13:41:40 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-184-37-210.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 71.184.37.210
Message:
Hi:
If its not too late to round up a photojournalist, could you please have someone take lots of picttures of the art exhibit at Lumley Round about and post along with artist info on Cocorioko. Thanks
Sam
Subject: Re: Kabs kanu --- Request
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:01:08 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-91-223.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.91.223
Message:
Kamanda is already there!
Subject: ARE WE HEADING BACK TO HE DARK AGES?
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:26:15 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: pcd597041.netvigator.com at 218.102.129.41
Message:
The following is not by me. See the ref. below.
FOR THE SAKE OF APC BUSINESS CRONIES, APC DEPUTY FINANCE MINISTER VOWS TO SIGN EUROPEAN TRADE DEAL. Without due regard to the consequences of the EU trade deal which will mean charging importers of EU goods next to nothing to import products into Sierra Leone (which means less revenue for the government) in return for the EU opening up its markets to Sierra Leonean goods and services, the APC deputy finance boss has decided to proceed with the signing which international organizations and groups have rejected. Dr. Richard Konteh's simple reason for announcing an intent to join the EU trade partnership agreement is that "we cannot afford to be left behind." This uninformed position is said to be precipitated by APC financiers who are businessmen involved in the importation of products from the EU countries for sale in Sierra Leone.
Last week, the Head of the agricultural sector of the Sierra Leone Chamber of Commerce, Mrs Claudia Thomas, warned about the dangers of joining the Economic Partnership agreement (EPA). She argued that "Sierra Leone is the second vulnerable country in the world according to the United Nations Human Development Index; and is struggling to rebuild its economic base in a post-conflict environment with decimated human, financial, infra structural, governance and organizational resources.� She also pointed out that Sierra Leone cannot afford to "enter into an economic partnership on an equal basis with the second most powerful economic grouping in the world- the EU�. She emphasized that the decision to join the EPA may lead to the closure of the remaining manufacturing and value added sectors of the economy with adverse effects on jobs, purchasing power, exposure to inflationary pressures and economic stress.
Last week, Bo District SLPP MP, Hon. Eric Jumu, also highlighted that it does not make economic sense for Sierra Leone to enter into such an agreement when it has no manufacturing base, and it would in effect become a dump for cheap manufactured EU goods.
Ref.: http://www.thenewpeople.com/
Subject: Re: ARE WE HEADING BACK TO HE DARK AGES?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 10:12:22 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Again, several good points raised here. Shouldn't parliament be debating and approving major trade agreements such as this?
Subject: Re: ARE WE HEADING BACK TO HE DARK AGES?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 11:33:53 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
My dear KKW
I wanted to pose the same question, joining such major trade pact with the industralised Europe would have fundamental impact on Sierra Leone economy. Signing such a deal should not be left to the discression of the minister of trade but should be laid before parliament for property scrutiny. The minister should have made a policy statement on the proposal, which could generate some debate from the floor of the house about the advantages and disadvantages of the trade pact.
I am particularly concern that Sierra Leone stood alone amoung the ECOWAS countries to join the pact alongside east african countries.
Our country is in dire need of help after decades of abuse, but we should not enter into a major trade pact with powerful nations on the sentimental dicta of not to be left behind without a thorough analysis of the wider implication.
I think for such a policy to meet the due process of consultation and participatory democracy it need an executive scritiny is to put the policy for a close door cabinet scrutiny and parliamentary debates vis-a vis the merit.
Asuming that these avenues were frog jumped by the minister, one would then probe as to whether the minister had acted within his prescribed remits.
I am of the view that parliament could have invited the minister to make a statement in parliament. But do some of these MPs know why they are in parliament in the first place.
The other day one MP was more concern with having a diplomatic passport, when his duties do not required him to hold one.
Diplomatic passport cannot just be granted to every jack and jill. It is primarily given to funtional diplomatic missions officials or by presidential perogative.
I urge EBK not to even entertain the idea. The president has to be mindful of the real chances for the abuse of diplomatic immunity if such privileges were granted to everyone who wants to have one.
The MPs should have been debating this trade aggreement because it will have a direct impact on their constituents in terms of prices and the economy.
That to me command priority.
Subject: Re: ARE WE HEADING BACK TO HE DARK AGES?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 13:05:13 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
The trade pact is definitely a matter of concern and merits further debate and analysis. In case the parliamentarians need some questions to ask, here are a few:
(1)What exactly does Sierra leone export to the European union?
(2)Are there existing European tariffs on these items. Would the removal of tariffs result in an increase in demand for these products in Europe that in turn spurs production in Sierra Leone?
(3)How much is the revenue loss from removing import tariffs in Sierra Leone? Which products are involved?
(4)Can we negotiate tariffs on some products but not on others?
(5)What import standards does Sierra Leone have to monitor product quality? What about undesireable products? Surely there are some exclusions?
(6)What is the impact on out neighbours? If Guinea and Liberia have not signed such an agreemnent, does Sierra leone become a transit point for Guinean and Liberian imports?
We cannot continue to keep digging ourselves into a whole without any proper analysis.
With regard the diplomatic passports for parliamentarians, I suspect this has more to do with the unwillingness of western embassies to grant visas to ordinary Sierra Leoneans. Hardly a priority from the persepctive of those of us with dual citizenship, but perhaps one of desperation for our dear MPs!
Subject: SOMEBODY PLEASE CHECK ON THE BAMBAY STORY
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 09:15:34 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: aca5874e.ipt.aol.com at 172.165.135.78
Message:
Can somebody living in California please check on our brother, Bambay Kamara.I am worried for him in the light of rumours of his demise posted in another forum and his inexplicable absence from the forum.
Please check on him and get back to us.
Bambay , please contact us. You can't keep us in this suspense.
Subject: Re: SOMEBODY PLEASE CHECK ON THE BAMBAY STORY
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 11:23:48 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Kabbs I have Patrick Bockari looking into it for us.
Subject: DO NOT ATTACK! IT'S BY OTHERS
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:12:01 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: n219078100184.netvigator.com at 219.78.100.184
Message:
Please don't attack me I got it from somewhere else:
Lead Story
AS APC STRIKES DUBIOUS DIAMOND MINING DEAL, HONORARY LATVIAN CONSUL IN TOWN. President Ernest Bai Koroma's calls for transparency and zero tolerance are ringing hollow by the day as yet another dubious deal is being exposed. The latest dubious deal involves the Mines Minister, Alhaji Jalloh, and some top APC functionaries who will remain unnamed because one of them is the source of this information to The New People.
The cover story that the APC minister is selling to the public is that his "guests" are in Sierra Leone to erect libraries in the Kono area. He has therefore directed Customs officers at the Queen Elizabeth II Quay to clear all containers duty-free for his "guests" so that the "books" loaded in the containers can be transported to Kono immediately and put in the libraries. This disingenuous story about books for a library is as devious as it is childish.
First, no libraries have been erected in Kono by the APC since it came to power three months ago. Readers are welcome to check this with Kono residents.
Secondly, the leader of the "library" group is Howard James Pym, a known businessman and financier who serves as Latvian honorary consul in northern England. He has traveled extensively in several parts of Africa (notably Angola and the Democratic Republic of Congo) which have large reserves of diamonds too.
Mr. Pym (who is English) is a front man for unscrupulous Latvian business front men and the members of his group, including a local Sierra Leonean woman from the diaspora with close personal associations with President Ernest Koroma, (named withheld for now) are reported to have met with the Vice President, Sam Sumana, and will be proceeding to Kono as soon as his containers full of mining equipment (which the Mines Minister is passing off as books) are cleared from Water Quay.
Posing as the son of a Kono chief with traditional access to large tracts of diamondeferous land, our covert reporter approached Mr. Howard Pym on November 28 at Stop Press. He proceeded to confirm his strong interest in diamonds and noted that he was in Sierra Leone at the invitation of the Mines Minister and Vice President Sam Sumana.
Asked whether he would be interested in doing some charity work like donate books to the FBC libraries, Mr. Pym said with a strong northern English accent, "I am not a teacher; I am a businessman, and I am in Sierra Leone for business." My Pym then proceeded to give his complimentary card to our reporter which reads as follows:
Pemberton House
Park Hall Road
Charnock Richard
Nr Chorley, Lnst PR 75LP
UK
email: howardpym@tiscali.co.uk
He also gave his telephone number in England as (44) 1257-794096. He further added in continuing privileged conversation that his wife's name is Pauline and she lives in England.
If this is President Ernest Koroma's new definition of transparency in the wake of secretive contracts handed to Lebanese APC financiers and dubious Latvian business men posing as librarians, then Sierra Leone is really in some trouble.
Ref: http://www.thenewpeople.com/
Subject: Re: DO NOT ATTACK! IT'S BY OTHERS
From: journo
To: All
Date Posted: 15:00:50 12/03/07 ()
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Message:
Why is the New People not talking to sam sumana or the mines minister? ow na maliss ba?
Subject: Re: DO NOT ATTACK! IT'S BY OTHERS
From: unorgetshame
To: All
Date Posted: 14:56:56 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"First, no libraries have been erected in Kono by the APC since it came to power three months ago. Readers are welcome to check this with Kono residents."
This means the SLPP did not erect libraries in Kono for the ELEVEN years they were in power.
Subject: Re: DO NOT ATTACK! IT'S BY OTHERS
From: FORREST GUMP
To: All
Date Posted: 15:13:42 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-57-4.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.57.4
Message:
Or lawyer day box en kick de same time, Bra blow. The man say leh una nor attack am na yerri he yerri the torie den u attck am 3 in a row.
FORREST
Subject: Re: DO NOT ATTACK! IT'S BY OTHERS
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:26 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: pcd174128.netvigator.com at 203.218.19.128
Message:
Tell them Forrest Gump, they said most black people don't read (not that they lack education) but they just don't sit around to read. "Unorgetshame" just proved it. He never went to the bottom of my piece to see the reference or even cross checked the reference before responding. "He really norgetshame."
Subject: New APC but OLD WAYS DIE HARD
From: Siaka Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 11:43:23 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: siakamargai@yahoo.com
Entered From: 24hrpc8.cpmc.columbia.edu at 156.111.18.147
Message:
You report is interesting. The businessman mentioned would change his card plus contact details soon. If you claim to have heard from an insider, Mohamed Kamara, Son of Sierra Leone, then for some of us who knew the Hon Mines Minister in Late Pres. Momoh's days nothing comes as a suprise. I have doubts because the Hon Mines Minister turned his life around (became a born-again muslim almost ten years ago)..
We Will Open Our Eyes Like Mountain Fat Foot
Subject: Re: DO NOT ATTACK! IT'S BY OTHERS
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 10:09:42 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
A very interesting piece of journalism using the old bait and switch tactic. I wish they would write these exposes with less theatrical and provocative language which takes away from the substance of the allegations. One big red flag here is the ability of the Minister of Mines to waive import duties. Isn't this supposed within the purview of the Finance Ministry?
Subject: Re: DO NOT ATTACK! IT'S BY OTHERS
From: Hassan kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 10:31:58 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: kamson10@hotmail.com
Entered From: dsl092-165-252.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net at 66.92.165.252
Message:
Anthony Sisay check your facts before making baseless allegations. You should have exposed the names of all the parties involved rather than withelding them.For your information, i am not going to investigate the allegation made against the Mines Minister but i know they are NOT TRUE. I CAN PUT MY NECK FOR THAT OLD MAN. I still want you to investigate your information before posting.
Subject: Re: DO NOT ATTACK! IT'S BY OTHERS
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 15:20:22 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: pcd174128.netvigator.com at 203.218.19.128
Message:
Hassan,
That piece was gathered from somewhere else and if you look at the bottom, you will find the reference. It was not my writing.
It was not posted to discredit anyone. However, I thought it is informative and there is nothing wrong to be informed.
It is up to you to make your own judgment whether to believe or not. But one thing we can learn from it is that there is no structure in place at the moment or whatever that was there is being completely ignored. In short "no continuity."
We are back from square one.
Subject: Re: DO NOT ATTACK! IT'S BY OTHERS
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 11:33:41 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.149
Message:
The New People has been throwing out a lot of drivel about the government. If they think something shady is going on, why don't they take it up with the ACC? This non-stop propaganda by SLPPers is really becoming tiresome.
Subject: Re: DO NOT ATTACK! IT'S BY OTHERS
From: THAVARISH
To: All
Date Posted: 12:30:34 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-228-219-218.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.228.219.218
Message:
Bra,u way look yawo,nar u know say ee dae cry.
Subject: NEED the ADVICE OF A LAWYER
From: Daniel Kaitibi
To: All
Date Posted: 08:34:31 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.4
Message:
Can anyone please give me the E-mail address a sierra Leonean lawyer in the States? Preferably the East Coast.
Thanks...
Subject: Re: NEED the ADVICE OF A LAWYER
From: Friend
To: All
Date Posted: 04:15:37 12/04/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 41.205.76.110
Message:
A friend asked another one, that he wanted a criminal lawyer in freetown, and who was the best.Friend said, they are all criminals, so pick anyone
Subject: Re: NEED the ADVICE OF A LAWYER
From: Siaka Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 11:29:37 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: siakamargai@yahoo.com
Entered From: 24hrpc8.cpmc.columbia.edu at 156.111.18.147
Message:
There is a Lawyer Garber (son of one time FSSG's principal)...I will find his number or Alieu Iscandri may know him (his fellow Prince Walean)
Subject: Re: NEED the ADVICE OF A LAWYER
From: legal finders
To: All
Date Posted: 08:58:23 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Is this for a criminal immigration or civil case?
Subject: Re: NEED the ADVICE OF A LAWYER
From: daniel kaitibi
To: All
Date Posted: 09:01:54 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.4
Message:
criminal... with a Sierra Leonean Travel Agency/Agent.
Subject: Re: NEED the ADVICE OF A LAWYER
From: legal finders
To: All
Date Posted: 11:20:04 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Then I suggest that you call Alieu Iscandari. his contac numbers are below: He has a wealth of experience in manner matters. Call him and you would be surprised. His e mail address is aiscandari@aol.com
M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
Iscandari & Associates
7901 Oakport Street ste 4900
Oakland CA 94621
Telephone: 510-615-6000
Facsimile: 510-615-6025
Mobile: 510:938-6186
Mobile: 240 515 6316
Subject: SIERRA LEONEAN IMMIGRANTS ARE PART OF CAR THEFT RING
From: Idrissa Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 08:27:15 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-69-232-233-167.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net at 69.232.233.167
Message:
PHILADELPHIA -- The FBI is trying to break up African carjacking rings that prey on suburbanites with luxury SUVs, then quickly ship the vehicles abroad.
The crimes reached a harrowing climax last week when three men from Sierra Leone allegedly carjacked two women hours apart -- one of whom grabbed their gun long enough to free her 7-year-old daughter from the back seat.
The gun went off during the scuffle, striking one suspect in the thumb.
"The thieves want the car intact. ... They get paid to deliver that vehicle with its keys," said Delaware County District Attorney G. Michael Green, whose office is prosecuting one of the two attacks Wednesday. "So the anti-theft devices in these vehicles are compromised because essentially they attack the driver."
A shootout with police ensued that night when the suspects drove the second stolen vehicle into a stakeout, officials said. Green's office has filed a long list of charges, including robbery and aggravated assault, against Unisa Kamara, 19, of Dale City, Va.; Jakuba Kamara, 29, of Philadelphia; and Omaru Sannoh, 20, the injured suspect.
While the trio await court hearings, police are trying to determine whether they have ties to a handful of other African carjacking "cells" they have pursued in the past year. At least five other African men have been charged in federal court in Philadelphia. One of them -- Liberian refugee Musa Donzo -- was to be sentenced Tuesday.
The thieves have very specific vehicles in mind -- Range Rovers, Cadillac Escalades, BMWs and other pricey sport utility vehicles. They might even have a specific order for a make and model, according to interviews with police, prosecutors and FBI officials.
And while some officials believe women are more often targeted, FBI spokeswoman Jerri Williams isn't so sure.
"They see the (desired) car, they've got a gun and they want you out. I don't think it makes a difference if it's a man or a woman," she said.
Typically, the rings pay $500 to $1,500 to a young immigrant assigned to steal a car, investigators said. Other people in the ring forge titles, handle the shipping and get the vehicle from the port in Africa or Europe to the intended buyer, perhaps through several intermediaries, they said.
And while it's nothing new for stolen American cars to end up overseas, thieves are apparently resorting to carjacking because new luxury cars can be nearly impossible to steal without a key.
"They can't wait until the victim parks their car and steal it, because they need the key," said Philadelphia Police Lt. Frank Vanore. "But their propensity to violence is scary, because they're young males and they are obviously armed with firearms."
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONEAN IMMIGRANTS ARE PART OF CAR THEFT RING
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 11:11:05 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
I've said it before but I'll say it again. I believe much of this behavior is exasperated by the kinds of put downs I've seen on this forum. Men are downed for making an honest living. Just last week Kabs was put down for being a teacher. What can be more honorable than teaching our young people? I doubt if that person even knows that many of the millionaires in the US are educators. I learned this from reading the Millionaire Woman Next Door. This is primarly because they have excellent retirement systems and investment programs they are encouraged to participate in. Also because they learn to live within their means. In other words they aren't out buying houses and cars they can't afford then working around the clock to try and keep up appearances. These young people are coming to this county wanting to run before they learn to walk. With the put downs for being a taxi driver or working in nursing homes, I don't know that the work ethic is being passed on to the next generation. Many of us have worked less than glamorous jobs and some still may not have the dream position, but it's important that we show that there is value in all work; especially when it does not lead to imprisonment or deportation.
Subject: Re: SIERRA LEONEAN IMMIGRANTS ARE PART OF CAR THEFT RING
From: SIK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:10:53 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: sokoroma@hotmail.com
Entered From: lgrt-122.dhcp.umass.edu at 128.119.230.122
Message:
Thank you my brother! you have said it all. I admire the mentality of the sober Americans' views about work. What matters is doing a legal job to keep life going: pay bills, put food on the table, etc. Of course some Sierra Leoneans like you also think the same way. I think the problem with �other Sierra Leoneans� is lack of content mind that is engulfed with inordinate ambition to get 'quick cash.� Well it will result to quick long imprisonment.
Subject: A PLAYA HAS 4 DIFFRENT TYPES OF GIRLS
From: THAVARISH
To: All
Date Posted: 07:34:28 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-228-219-218.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.228.219.218
Message:
1)WIFEY
2)BABY GIRL
3)SIDE PIECE
4)JUMP OFF
1) Wifey is the sexiest, most successful and most respected of all the women. She is loved, needed and wanted by her man...she is VIRTUALLY IRREPLACEABLE. She is the girl that the guy loves and will always love, he never wants to see her with another man...BUT he will cheat on her
with Baby Girl until he is mature enough to realize that if he gets caught or f--ks up in any way and loses Wifey, he would be screwed, and NEVER be happy again. Wifey gets along with mom, is independent, never nags, loves to dress sexy for her man, can cook and loves to keep a clean house. Wifey gets called 5 or 6 times a day. Drawback of Wifey, she loves public displays of affection...which might interfere with the acquisition of a Side Piece.
2) Baby Girl
is ALWAYS just as hot as wifey and usually has a very active social life...she IS replaceable, thinks she's the next Wifey, but will only be Wifey if an extreme disaster takes place. Baby Girl gets some of the benefits of Wifey, like quality time every now and then and even presents on birthdays and holidays, but that's as far as it goes. The main reason to have Baby Girl is in case Wife really really f--ks up, she can be replaced in a matter of weeks because Baby Girl has been groomed to slip right into her spot. Be careful of Baby Girl, she tends to be just as attached as Wifey and therefore can be dangerous to the Side Piece. Biggest benefit of Baby Girl...she is extremely private and hates causing a scene, baby girl can come into the same restaurant as you and wifey and wifey will have no idea you two even know each other. Baby Girl is a master of disguise as well.
3) Side Piece, usually a female that the guy uses only for sex and other pleasures, she is usually the one that he goes to for that 3-some or some late night head after the club. When Wifey is acting up and Baby Girl is at work, the Side Piece is
usually the one to hold him over for
a few hrs. He can meet with the Side Piece for reasons other than sex, but normally that only happens one week during the month. Side Pieces are hard to spot when they are out because most of her friends are either Wifey's or Jump Offs. Drawback of having more than one side piece, they usually know each other somehow...we kinda think there is a side piece network.com or something. Try to keep your side piece count below 4 if possible.
4) Jump Off...every mans dream and worst nightmare. She is trying to move up in life, wants to be a Side Piece or Wifey but doesn't know how to go about it. They are just the girls he hollas at when he is with his boys...she is usually stored in the cell phone by a nickname because he barely remembers her real name and where he met her...he only recalls how fat her ass was. The Jump Off gets called in emergencies only, when wifey is moody, baby girl is on vacation and side piece
is with her baby's father. The Jump Off is extremely dangerous in public for a number of reasons, she is usually 5 other guys jump off as well, so she might cause drama with you and one of those dudes if you slip up, she also has no problem confronting you in the mall when you are with Wifey (something that baby girl would NEVER do) and the most dangerous thing about Jump Off...she ALWAYS seems to find out where you live and/or work.
Subject: Re: A PLAYA HAS 4 DIFFRENT TYPES OF GIRLS
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 10:15:38 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
What's the name for the female equivalent of a playa and how many men has she?
Subject: Re: A PLAYA HAS 4 DIFFRENT TYPES OF GIRLS
From: Man
To: All
Date Posted: 13:03:13 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cs307bimac018.gsu.edu at 131.96.237.4
Message:
Interesting
Subject: Re: A PLAYA HAS 4 DIFFRENT TYPES OF GIRLS
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 11:39:17 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 86.154.251.40
Message:
"What's the name for the female equivalent of a playa and how many men has she?"
"SORRY HEART". FIVE OR MORE, because she is usually 5 other guys jump off as well.
And this is how i will call the other three in numerical order.
1) "QUEEN" for Wifey because She is loved, needed and wanted by her man...
2) "BLESSED" for Baby Girl because its a blessing for any "Breagin" to have a bit on the side who is extremely private and hates causing a scene,
3) "REGULAR" for Side Piece, because she is there only for REGULAR POUNDING and other pleasures
Subject: Re: A PLAYA HAS 4 DIFFRENT TYPES OF GIRLS
From: THAVARISH
To: All
Date Posted: 11:19:59 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-228-219-218.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.228.219.218
Message:
Female equivqlent of a playa is I think PLAYET and on the count,well that depends on the individual KORO.
Subject: Re: A PLAYA HAS 4 DIFFRENT TYPES OF GIRLS
From: Fen Playa!
To: All
Date Posted: 11:40:47 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.149
Message:
Female Playa: I think they call her Ho!
Subject: Re: A PLAYA HAS 4 DIFFRENT TYPES OF GIRLS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 08:59:59 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Okay so where are the Pictures hat should go with every descr1ption? ROTFLMMFAO
Subject: Re: A PLAYA HAS 4 DIFFRENT TYPES OF GIRLS
From: THAVARISH
To: All
Date Posted: 09:34:35 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-228-219-218.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.228.219.218
Message:
Maybe you can help me out with them.
Subject: Re: A PLAYA HAS 4 DIFFRENT TYPES OF GIRLS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 11:21:15 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
How can I help you out? LORL. Nor mix me pan nonsense ya.
Subject: Re: A PLAYA HAS 4 DIFFRENT TYPES OF GIRLS
From: THAVARISH
To: All
Date Posted: 12:16:03 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-228-219-218.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.228.219.218
Message:
Bra warm hart nor mix.Nar u borboh nar de "A".
Subject: Re: A PLAYA HAS 4 DIFFRENT TYPES OF GIRLS
From: M. ALIEU ISCANDARI
To: All
Date Posted: 12:57:05 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
LORL.
LaFFING OUT REAL LOUD INDICATES THAT THER IS NO WARM HART. iTS ALL IN GOOD FUN BRA.
Subject: YOU THE MAN, KABS KANU!!!
From: Tobangay Max-Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 05:13:45 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-232-224-027.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.232.224.27
Message:
Kabs, I have always admonished those forumites who are not only insecure, immature and damn right cowardly in their jealous pusuit to bring Cocorioko down, but still continue to perpetuate their evil machination and 'bad heart' at you and the editorial board. But what they fail to realize is that, unlike them, you have already built up a niche for yourself called NAME RECOGNITION!!!
Yes Kabs , you have got what a lot of our brothers and sisters envy most about you. Your name has become a household word in many parts of the world-from people who read your newspaper online and from those who knew you as far back as your journalistic input days at Fourah Bay College in the seventies. Some of these detractors were not even born yet. Ha. Ha.
To prove my point, I was at a Sierra Leonean wedding reception last summer in Manchester (UK) when I was introduced as your brother. Boy, can you imagine the spontaneous raising of eyebrows and attention I received? I became one of the most recognizable guests at the reception, just because KABS KANU's brother was in attendance, too. Can you believe it? Many people who chatted with me were full of praise for your challenging good work.
That said, Kabs, what then would a few elbowing and jealous rumbles from your detractors do to your personality? NOTHING, my young brother, SWEET NOTHING!!
I would advise you and your editorial board to continue your good work and ignore these desperate 'contrymen'. They will never change. Threats of lawsuits and whatever will not deter them. Just let them continue to expose their shortcomings and evil machinations. Remember, only fools and God don't change and you or Foday Mansaray are not either of them.
You supported APC in its election victory. So what? We are all opportunists in this world. Remember, it was the late S.I. Koroma-Agba Satani-of Siaka Steven's APC government fame who, in his hey days, said that 'self preservation comes first and everything else follows.' So what are these mischief makers complaining about? It happens everywhere. If you are rewarded for doing a good job, who are these people to deter you?
Let's take a case in point. Our very American Presidential elections next year. Who gets the most rewards when Hillary Clinton wins the presidency next year? Those who supported her, ofcourse, especially those from her home state. Bill Clinton did it, too.
What about president George W. Bush? Who dominates his administration? His Texas kindred, ofcourse. Some have resigned or retuned back to Texas. Need I say more?
Who dominated ex-president Kabba's SLPP government? Northerners? No. Westerners (creoles)? No. You do the maths. What then is wrong if EBK surrounds himself with trusted loyalists and from his own region, too? Need I continue? I don't think so.
Keep on doing your good work, Kabs. If you should eventually be rewarded by the APC government for your challenging tasks, who cares. You deserve it, anyway. 'Dem bellers mus die'. Remember?
Added on Date: 05:08:08 12/
Subject: Re: YOU THE MAN, KABS KANU!!!
From: fact
To: All
Date Posted: 15:10:12 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Great piece, Tobangay. cheers.
Subject: Great Leaders Vs.Terminal degrees : The Sam Sumana Example
From: Alimamy Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 04:17:28 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: deltablast@yahoo.com
Entered From: e178119224.adsl.alicedsl.de at 85.178.119.224
Message:
Mr. Editor, you said you contacted the registrar's office in the US to verify VP's academic status! you are a liar! no registrar of a university in any part of the world can disclose one's personal details to his mother let alone a journalist. Find another solid defense!! Liar!!!
Subject: Re: Great Leaders Vs.Terminal degrees : The Sam Sumana Example
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 04:58:05 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-220-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.220.38
Message:
My good man, I can unequivocally confirm that i spoke to the registrar some weeks before our elections and was put through to the press office of the university the VP studied. I spoke to a lady who confirmed that he had been a student there and confirmed his degree obtained. If you search the archives on or around the last week of july 07 and third week in August 07 - you will find the contact details there. The information you will find will help resolve your doubts - we are a people under one roof and the truth should not be concealed for selfish interests. No prejudice!!
Subject: kkk
From: kjj
To: All
Date Posted: 03:09:38 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 131.118.54.73
Message:
jnjnj
Subject: Re: kkk
From: Mohamed
To: All
Date Posted: 03:10:48 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: Homebase@aol.com
Entered From: at 131.118.54.73
Message:
Please delete Just testing.
Subject: LET'S GET LEGALISTIC: People You Can And Cannot Attack
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 22:44:08 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
In the desire to clean the forum of libelous attacks, distinctions must be made between PUBLIC FIGURES and PRIVATE CITIZENS. Private citizens are people who have not done anything to thrust themselves in the {Sierra Leonean} spotlight. It is simply objectionable to write anything scurrilous about private people. Although the amorphous nature of the legal system makes prosecution for internet writing a bit difficult, the sheer cowardice in attacking a private citizen without provocation makes the act unacceptable. Terroristic threats are, of course, a contravention of state and federal laws. A terroristic threat is a prosecutable offense, and a convicted actor can expect little mercy from the descending hammer of the law.
Politicians are PUBLIC FIGURES. In the eyes of United States law, celebrities, activists, and elected officials of any stature {from those at the local level in the Mayor's office to Federal functionaries}, are PUBLIC FUGURES. They can be pummeled in writing without fear of legal consequences.
When public figures take legal actions claiming defamation, the onus of proof rests with them. In statutory terms, public figures must convincingly show that an acidic comment was phrased with "malice aforethought," and that the intent was "wilfully malignant. " This loosely-worded legalese makes it exceedingly difficult for public figures to successfully mount legal challenges against those who get then pilloried in the media with insults and other forms of attacks. The protection of speech is so essential in the eyes of federal and state laws that calumnies can be made against public figures with the {informal} backing of the law. While charges of theft and immorality against public figures can be contestable in court, the task of punishing a private citizen for uncharitable comments is heavily weighted against the public figure in question. In the American context, Ernest Koroma, for example, can be attacked for taking us back to the dark days of EKUTAY without fear of prosecution. On the other hand, Miss Thiangay Vandi on her farm in Kailahun cannot be attacked--at least not in the eyes of the law. If we can differentiate PUBLIC FIGURES from PRIVATE CITIZENS, Cocorioko will thrive without the hanging sword of Kabs Kanu waiting to hew offenders.
Subject: Re: LET'S GET LEGALISTIC: People You Can And Cannot Attack
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 07:45:42 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: n219078100184.netvigator.com at 219.78.100.184
Message:
Thank you Bra Enviable. I am getting to love this forum. At least there are a few intelligent ones like you around.
Subject: Re: LET'S GET LEGALISTIC: People You Can And Cannot Attack
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 23:31:20 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
Oremi Alieu, where are you? Bra E dae pull lawyer book pan we!
I actually agree with you Bra Enviable. I am sitting here, furiously scratching my head over this threat of prosecution by the Cocorioko administrators. I hope Kabs and the chairman were referring to the 'beefers' who want to wash their not-for-public-viewing soiled nappies on this forum, when it can be done in the washers and driers at home or in the neighborhood laundromat. As a matter of fact that was my impression when I read the warning.
The lifeblood of this forum comes from the furious political debates that rage here all the time with APC and SLPP supporters raiding the bush for ever bigger sticks to clobber their opponents. Some of these attacks are baseless and even repugnant but, hey, whoever said politics is a sissy catwalk? I hate it when Ernest is unfairly attacked but I clench my jaw and endure the despicable savagery of the SLPP slings, remembering that I too used to gleefully savage Berewa and Kabba in my postings during the elections.
Let the partisan attacks go on without Damocles' sword threatening to guillotine 'offenders'. There are cadres on both sides of the aisle fully capable of mounting a stout defense of their respective positions. Besides, our children will thank us in future for fostering this crucial aspect of democracy, the freedom of speech.
Subject: LET'S GET LEGALISTIC: People You Can and Cannot Attack
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 22:05:19 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
In the desire to clean the forum of libelous attacks, distinctions must be made between PUBLIC FIGURES and PRIVATE CITIZENS. Private citizens are people who have not done anything to thrust themselves in the {Sierra Leonean} spotlight. It is simply objectionable to write anything scurrilous about private people. Although the amorphous nature of the legal system makes prosecution for internet writing a bit difficult, the sheer cowardice in attacking a private citizen without provocation makes the act unacceptable. Terroristic threats are, of course, a contravention of state and federal laws. A terroristic threat is a prosecutable offense, and a convicted actor can expect little mercy from the descending hammer of the law.
Politicians are PUBLIC FIGURES. In the eyes of United States law, celebrities, activists, elected officials of any stature {from those at the local level in the Mayor's office to Federal functionaries}, are PUBLIC FUGURES. They can be pummeled in writing without fear of legal consequences.
When public figures take legal actions claiming defamation, the onus of proof rests with them. In statutory terms, public figures must convincingly show that an acidic comment was phrased with "malice aforethought," and that the intent was "wilfully malignant. " This loosely-worded legalese makes it exceedingly difficult for public figures to successfully mount legal challenges against those who get then pilloried in the media with insults and other forms of attacks. The protection of speech is so essential in the eyes of federal and state laws that calumnies can be made against public figures with the {informal} backing of the law. While charges of theft and immorality against public figures can be contestable in court, the task of punishing a private citizen for uncharitable comments is heavily weighted against the public figure in question. In the American context, Ernest Koroma, for example, can be attacked for taking us back to the dark days of EKUTAY without fear of prosecution. On the other hand, Miss Thiangay Vandi on her farm in Kailahun cannot be attacked--at least not in the eyes of the law. If we can differentiate PUBLIC FIGURES from PRIVATE CITIZENS, Cocorioko will thrive without the hanging sword Kabs Kanu waiting to hew offenders.
Subject: Re: LET'S GET LEGALISTIC: People You Can and Cannot Attack
From: pa morlai kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 07:51:21 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: pkanu@comcast.net
Entered From: c-68-50-22-158.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 68.50.22.158
Message:
I agree. Public figures live in petri dishes or the proverbial glass house with no curtains. Private individuals should be allwoed to live in cocoons.
Subject: Malicious Intent
From: Chairman Himself
To: All
Date Posted: 20:47:46 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74
Message:
Dear Mr Thomas,
Formal Complaint of Abuse /libel suit for your Company
Please find enclosed a detailed analysis of someone in your establishment who has been abusing our forum. We have warned this individual several times but all attempts has failed
In addition, this individual and all entities involved will be part of a libel suit and we will vigorously pursue this incident by all necessary means to bring this culprit to justice.
Please keep us inform should you need additional clarification.
NetRange: 64.202.160.0 - 64.202.191.255
CIDR: 64.202.160.0/19
NetName: GO-DADDY-SOFTWARE-INC
NetHandle: NET-64-202-160-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocat1on
NameServer: CNS1.SECURESERVER.NET
NameServer: CNS2.SECURESERVER.NET
NameServer: CNS3.SECURESERVER.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 2002-10-22
Updated: 2007-06-14
OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE51-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse Department
Subject: IP 64.202.161.130 from Arizona
From: chairman himself
To: All
Date Posted: 20:18:26 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74
Message:
IP 64.202.161.130 will be Investigated
Subject: KABBSKANU AT LUNGI AIPORT POSTING
From: Chairman Himself
To: All
Date Posted: 20:15:09 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74
Message:
This IP 64.202.161.130 of this individual has been sent to the Authorities for Investigations .
Have a great day.
Subject: Business in West Africa
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 18:49:20 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
This is a very interesting story about the ups and downs of doing business in Africa.
Subject: ABUSE OF THE COCORIOKO FORUM
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 18:23:16 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: aca3aa63.ipt.aol.com at 172.163.170.99
Message:
Everyone can see that this forum is under attack and being abused seriously by a shameful breed of irresponsible, worthless, Godless and reckless people who do not care the harm they cause to their country or to others.
We will never close this forum if that is their aim.We will rather continue to delete their rubbish and also block them. They can move from computer to computer as they wish but we will block them until they have no more computers to use. This forum , like the COCORIOKO newspaper , will live forever . Nothing will ever stop the newspaper and the forum , by God's grace .
Our propensity to defame and damage the names of innocent people is the reason that we are all suffering seriously today, while our country swims in riches of diamonds, gold , bauxite and what-have-you. Those inside the country are suffering.We in the diaspora have all the material comforts but our hearts are not at rear because there is no place like home and in a sense we too are suffering.
Sierra Leone has slipped to the last position on the UN Human Development Index.This is a shame and a disgrace to all of us. But Ghanaians, Liberians, Nigerians, Ugandas, Kenyans etc. come to this forum and they see the reason for we Sierra Leoneans being what we are. It looks like when God was cursing Satan the Devil , he also cursed Sierra Leone.
Europeans have a joke about Sierra Leone : The story goes like this :
When God was creating the earth, he placed all kinds of minera;l resources in Sierra Leone. According to the joke, some angels complained : "Lord, why are you blessing this country so much ?".According to the joke, God answered : "Wait and see the people that will go and live there."
This is a joke and God will not say such a thing but it just shows how far people have gone in identifying that WE ARE OUR OWN PROBLEMS. We can't blame God. We can't blame anybody , but our own selves.
We have church thieves coming here to try to defame an innocent woman, Ms. Agnes Banya.There is no more fear of God.How can they fear God when they are getting away with robbing a whole church blind and our legal system cannot even prosecute the criminals ?
We also have losers coming to this forum to attack me and Foday Mansaray because we helped the APC thrash their party in the last elections. They think that all their attacks will deter us.They do not know that the more they attack us, the more we will do our thing. What a bunch of shameful and shameless losers.
There are some IPs that Foday will hand over to the Prosecutor. You just continue making fools of yourselves on this forum.One day, you will get a knock on your door and you will see something you will not forget for the rest of your life.
For the good and blessed ones , continue to enjoy the forum. Nobody will ever stop us.
Subject: Re: YOU THE MAN, KABS KANU!!!
From: Tobangay Max-Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 05:08:08 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-232-224-027.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.232.224.27
Message:
Kabs, I have always admonished those forumites who are not only insecure, immature and damn right cowardly in their jealous pusuit to bring Cocorioko down, but still continue to perpetuate their evil machination and 'bad heart' at you and the editorial board. But what they fail to realize is that, unlike them, you have already built up a niche for yourself called NAME RECOGNITION!!!
Yes Kabs , you have got what a lot of our brothers and sisters envy most about you. Your name has become a household word in many parts of the world-from people who read your newspaper online and from those who knew you as far back as your journalistic input days at Fourah Bay College in the seventies. Some of these detractors were not even born yet. Ha. Ha.
To prove my point, I was at a Sierra Leonean wedding reception last summer in Manchester (UK) when I was introduced as your brother. Boy, can you imagine the spontaneous raising of eyebrows and attention I received? I became one of the most recognizable guests at the reception, just because KABS KANU's brother was in attendance, too. Can you believe it? Many people who chatted with me were full of praise for your challenging good work.
That said, Kabs, what then would a few elbowing and jealous rumbles from your detractors do to your personality? NOTHING, my young brother, SWEET NOTHING!!
I would advise you and your editorial board to continue your good work and ignore these desperate 'contrymen'. They will never change. Threats of lawsuits and whatever will not deter them. Just let them continue to expose their shortcomings and evil machinations. Remember, only fools and God don't change and you or Foday Mansaray are not either of them.
You supported APC in its election victory. So what? We are all opportunists in this world. Remember, it was the late S.I. Koroma-Agba Satani-of Siaka Steven's APC government fame who, in his hey days, said that 'self preservation comes first and everything else follows.' So what are these mischief makers complaining about? It happens everywhere. If you are rewarded for doing a good job, who are these people to deter you?
Let's take a case in point. Our very American Presidential elections next year. Who gets the most rewards when Hillary Clinton wins the presidency next year? Those who supported her, ofcourse, especially those from her home state. Bill Clinton did it, too.
What about president George W. Bush? Who dominates his administration? His Texas kindred, ofcourse. Some have resigned or retuned back to Texas. Need I say more?
Who dominated ex-president Kabba's SLPP government? Northerners? No. Westerners (creoles)? No. You do the maths. What then is wrong if EBK surrounds himself with trusted loyalists and from his own region, too? Need I continue? I don't think so.
Keep on doing your good work, Kabs. If you should eventually be rewarded by the APC government for your challenging tasks, who cares. You deserve it, anyway. 'Dem bellers mus die'. Remember?
Subject: Re: ABUSE OF THE COCORIOKO FORUM
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 02:05:23 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-220-38.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.220.38
Message:
Such crude parasites amongst us are the cause of the disunity that tries to envelope the goodness and blessings of our nation. These hopeless bunch continue to fan the flames of disunity but will not succeed. The wrath of God will at some point and time strike them and they shall be cut off from our midst. Why should differences in political opinions be viewed by these brothers and sisters with marked disrespect.
God will get rid of them.
The email piece below was sent to me by a hard working elderly Sierra Leonean I worked with sometime ago. I have read it before, so may others have had the opportunity to read it. Another read may help identify and hold true that the problem our people face is not limited to Sierra Leone but all over the negroid world. The few manage to contaminate the majority and the contaminated majority rise up to weigh down the enlightened minority. When such continues, we will find that hope for the enlightenment of all becomes gloomy.
We should not give up. Expose them may push them away from the light so as not to continue contaminating others.
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I hate to circulate negative info. However, I hate to think that if I didn't, some might miss the opportunity to make positive changes.
BLACK PEOPLE, PLEASE, READ & HEED. POIGNANT.
>
> The sad thing about this article is that the essence of it is true.
> The truth hurts. I just hope this sets more Black people in motion
> towards making real progress. Chris Rock, a Black comedian, even
> joked that Blacks don't read.
>
> Help prove them wrong! Read and pass on.
>
> Please Note:
>
> For those of you who heard it, this is the article Dee Lee was
> reading this morning on a New York radio station. For those of you
> who didn't hear it, this is very deep. This is a heavy piece and a
> Caucasian wrote it.
>
Dee Lee, CFP
>
> Harvard Financial Educators
>
> Dee Lee
>
> THEY ARE STILL OUR SLAVES We can continue to reap profits from the
> Blacks without the effort of physical slavery Look at the current
> methods of containment that they use on themselves: IGNORANCE,
> GREED, and SELFISHNESS.
>
> Their IGNORANCE is the primary weapon of containment. A great man
> once said, "The best way to hide something from Black people is to
> put it in
> a book." We now live in the Information Age. They have gained the
> opportunity to read any book on any subject through the efforts of
> their fight for freedom, yet they refuse to read. There are
> numerous books readily available at Borders, Barnes & Noble, and
> Amazon.com, not to mention their own Black Bookstores that provide
> solid blueprints to reach economic equality (which should have been
> their fight all along), but few read consistently, if at all.
>
> GREED is another powerful weapon of containment. Blacks, since the
> abolition of slavery, have had large amounts of money at their
> disposal.
> Last year they spent 10 billion dollars during Christmas, out of
> their 450 billion dollars in total yearly income (2.22%).
>
> Any of us can use them as our target market, for any business
> venture we care to dream up, no matter how outlandish, they will
> buy into it.
> Being primarily a consumer people, they function totally by greed.
> They continually want more, with little thought for saving or
> investing.
>
> They would rather buy some new sneaker than invest in starting a
> business. Some even neglect their children to have the latest Tommy
> or FUBU, And they still think that having a Mercedes, and a big
> house gives them "Status" or that they have achieved their Dream.
>
> They are fools! The vast majority of their people are still in
> poverty because their greed holds them back from collectively
> making better communities.
>
> With the help of BET, and the rest of their black media that often
> broadcasts destructive images into their own homes, we will
> continue to see huge profits like those of Tommy and Nike. (Tommy
> Hilfiger has even jeered them, saying he doesn't want their money,
> and look at how the fools spend more with him than ever before!).
> They'll continue to show off to each other while we build solid
> communities with the profits from our businesses that we market to
> them.
>
> SELFISHNESS, ingrained in their minds through slavery, is one of
> the major ways we can continue to contain them. One of their own,
> Dubois said that there was an innate division in their culture. A
> "Talented Tenth" he called it. He was correct in his deduction that
> there are segments of their culture that has achieved some "form"
> of success.
> However, that segment missed the fullness of his work. They didn't
> read that the "Talented Tenth" was then responsible to aid The Non-
> Talented
> Ninety Percent in achieving a better life. Instead, that segment
> has created another class, a Buppie class that looks down on their
> people or aids them in a condescending manner. They will never
> achieve what we have. Their selfishness does not allow them to be
> able to work together on any project or endeavor of substance. When
> they do get together, their selfishness lets their egos get in the
> way of their goal Their so-called help organizations seem to only
> want to promote their name without making any real change in their
> community.
>
> They are content to sit in conferences and conventions in our
> hotels, and talk about what they will do, while they award plaques
> to the best
> speakers, not to the best doers. Is there no end to their
selfishness?
> They steadfastly refuse to see that TOGETHER EACH ACHIEVES MORE
(TEAM)
>
> They do not understand that they are no better than each other
> because of what they own, as a matter of fact, most of those
> Buppies are but one or two pay checks away from poverty. All of
> which is under the
> control of our pens in our offices and our rooms.
>
> Yes, we will continue to contain them as long as they refuse to re
> ad, continue to buy anything they want, and keep thinking they are
> "helping"
> their communities by paying dues to organizations which do little
> other than hold lavish conventions in our hotels. By the way, don't
> worry about any of them reading this letter, remember, 'THEY DON'T
> READ!!!!
>
> (Prove them wrong. Please pass this on! After Reading it..)
>
> IF I BELIEVE I CAN,I CAN!!...........WAYNE A. JACKSON
Subject: Re: ABUSE OF THE COCORIOKO FORUM
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 23:42:40 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 218.189.231.87
Message:
I think Kab, you hit the nail right on the head. We may be living in comfort in the Diaspora but it is true that we are suffering. When I look at the human development list, it ache my heart whenever I see my country at the bottom of the list.
You have no respect from your peers and all your self esteem crunches whenever the Newsreader announces "Sierra Leone the poorest country in the world."
God knows we should not be at the bottom.
Kab, I must say however that constructive criticism is good on this forum and our country.
Keep up with your good work. God bless.
Subject: Re: ABUSE OF THE COCORIOKO FORUM
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 21:42:31 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Kabs:
I was in agreement with everything you said until you came up with these two comments:
"We have church thieves coming here to try to defame an innocent woman, Ms. Agnes Banya.There is no more fear of God.How can they fear God when they are getting away with robbing a whole church blind and our legal system cannot even prosecute the criminals"?
"We also have losers coming to this forum to attack me and Foday Mansaray because we helped the APC thrash their party in the last elections. They think that all their attacks will deter us.They do not know that the more they attack us, the more we will do our thing. What a bunch of shameful and shameless losers".
Kabs, surely the above comments would qualify as the kind of attacks you are decrying in this posting. Moreover, your opening comment certainly does not engender an atmosphere of harmony and cordiality; but I gave it a pass and read on because the statement was directed to a nameless group.
Kabs, in view of all of the above, is it possible that you can deal with the issue of "attacks" against the forum, yourself, and Foday Mansaray privately, and without responding in kind-- as this only escalates the unplesant exchanges?
A response would be much appreciated.
Subject: SO WHO IS THE TRIBALIST?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 17:51:22 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577b27b.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.178.123
Message:
Nothing sticks a fork faster in a conversation than the accusation of Tribalism. To show how tribalism is an equal opportunity disease rocking the major political parties, kindly try to honestly answer the following questions:
1) DO YOU THINK APC WILL EVER ELECT A MENDE TO BE ITS FLAGBEARER?
2) DO YOU THINK SLPP WILL EVER ELECT A TEMNE TO BE ITS FLAGBEARER?
Subject: Re: SO WHO IS THE TRIBALIST?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 20:48:24 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
More mendes have held more positions in the upper echelons of APC administrators, than non mendes have held in SLPP administrations.
Subject: Re: SO WHO IS THE TRIBALIST?
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 21:59:28 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Alieu:
leaving aside the false dichotomy in your comparison, "upper echelons" of an administration is a term of art that you must first define before anyone can give credence to your claim. Then, of course, you will need to provide factual evidence.
Even taking into account the APC one-party era, I think you would be hard-pressed to argue that APC governments (at the cabinet level)have historically been more diverse than SLPP governments. With respect appointments to high ranking positions such as heads of government agencies and pararstatals, I doubt very much you could argue the APC has been more sensitive to diversity than the SLPP. But if you have the data, I'd be happy to see it.
Subject: Re: SO WHO IS THE TRIBALIST?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 08:50:13 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
The data is readily and equally available to all and I stand by the assertions I mad e in the post. The onus is on you to prove me wrong and I dont think that you can.
Subject: Re: SO WHO IS THE TRIBALIST?
From: Historian
To: All
Date Posted: 15:46:28 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.4
Message:
In Sir Milton Margai's led SLPP government we had the likes of Kande Bureh, Dr John Karefa-Smart, PC Koblo Pathbana, YD Sesay, Dr Haj Conteh, etc at a time when the number of people holding high offices was few.
In Sir Albert Margai's time we continued to have prominent northerners in high places save that Karefa-Smart drifted apart following his leadership tussle with Sir Albert.
Under the SLPP Tejan Kabba, a northerner, became president and had other northerners like Momodu Koroma, Dr Kadi Sesay, Bobson Sesay, late Thaimu Bangura, Osman Kamara, Alpha Wurie, Francis Carew, Dr Tejan Jalloh, Sulay Tejan Jalloh, Okere Adams, Dr Sheku Sesay in his cabinet apart from those who held ambassadorial and other top ranking positions. The head of the military, Brig Hassan Conteh, until Kabba's overthrow and later Acha Kamara as head of the Police were all northerners who held top posts in an SLPP government.
The fact here is overwhelming and I am waiting for Alieu to provide a more compelling statistic.
In fact it was through Kabba's magnanimity that the APC was able to make a comeback since the NPRC commissions had placed a ban on very many ex APC ministers and politicians not to participate in Sierra Leone's politics or hold any public office for the rest of their lives. People like Yansaneh and many others had been banned from holding any public office with their assets consficated to the state.
Bo do ya; una lef.
Subject: Re: SO WHO IS THE TRIBALIST?
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:44:39 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-187-59-70.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.59.70
Message:
Well said Historian . You should have also mentioned R.G.O King and Gideon Thomas. The New APC fanatics are the last to talk about tribalism. If you look at the present cabinet , you would think Ernest Koroma was the President of Makeni or Port loko not Sierra Leone.
Do not mind the thuggish APC , they are tribalistic by nature. Only Pa siaki was able to keep them under control. When Siaki left , the party degenerated into the Ekutay Cabal. I hope Ernest can curtail their tribalistic excesses. Just curious , how many ministers were appointed from the krio ethnic group.
Subject: Why?
From: Former forumite
To: All
Date Posted: 17:16:23 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-49-205-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.49.205.105
Message:
Whenever the word "tribalism" is used either on this forum or on the ground in Sierra Leone, it is either directed at a Mende or a Mende person using it at others. Anyone with similar observation? If so why?
Subject: Re: Why?
From: Unlooker
To: All
Date Posted: 16:49:05 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 63.72.210.229
Message:
Sure, and the majority of them are found to be very ethnocentric.
Subject: Re: Why?
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 17:24:40 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: pcd172091.netvigator.com at 203.218.17.91
Message:
Give examples to put us in a better picture.
Subject: KABS KANU TO ARRIVE MONDAY AT LUNGI AIRPORT...
From: LAW COURT
To: All
Date Posted: 17:10:21 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 64.202.161.130
Message:
...he will be served his criminal summons upon arrival. Bailiffs will be waiting for him. Ha ha ha. He he he. Ho Ho Ho.
We will show him that there is separation of powers and that his presidential "appointment" is not immunity from prosecution for malicious libel.
Stay tuned for update on Monday night from Lungi airport. with pictures too!!!! And if he hides at Lungi, we will send bailiffs to serve him at ..... STATE HOUSE!~
Subject: Re: KABS KANU TO ARRIVE MONDAY AT LUNGI AIRPORT...
From: Bye Bye
To: All
Date Posted: 17:12:51 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 64.202.161.130
Message:
Bye for now silly forum!
Silly forum whose foolish owners think they can block anyone from writing anything here.
Subject: WHAT IS HAPPENING? - SLPP WEBSITE UPDATE & PARTY ACTIVITIES
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 16:55:15 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-144-11-163.range86-144.btcentralplus.com at 86.144.11.163
Message:
It has been two weeks when wecalled upon the webmasters/technicians to see it fit to update the SLPP worldwide website. In the absence of a response from anyone so connected with our request - may I suggest that we take upon ourselves the task to move a motion for us to find an alternative resolve to what I will assume is a problem.
we need to give our people information - tell them what is happening.
let our brothers and sisters who are currently responsible for certain party activities understand that their behavioural conduct in the discharge of charged duties directly affects the party as a whole.
The same was done when we were in government. Recklessness and self interests took the order of the day and the country and party suffered greatly.
Are we going to fold our hands and wait for officials charged to do a job that they are not happy to do for the benefit of the whole?
Are we going to fold our hands and allow others to think of us as a party full of selfish people?
Are we going to fold our hands and continue to torture the minds of true and loyal party members?
The party needs to get a grip of its activities.
Let this defeat not silence us and render us dysfunctionals!!
Let this defeat be a lesson well learnt!
Let this defeat be the tool to a great comeback!
Let us start working now to be able to catch up with the limited time we have on our hands!
Where do we want to be by 2012?
Subject: Re: WHAT IS HAPPENING? - SLPP WEBSITE UPDATE & PARTY ACTIVITIES
From: independent observing
To: All
Date Posted: 17:01:00 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 64.202.161.130
Message:
You are not SLPP so keep quiet. The real SLPP is restructuring quietly inside Sierra Leone. When they finish, they will tell you the latest. Hopefully, by then, you would have done quiet restructuring and reinvention. So, Chez, SHUT UP, you are not SLPP.
Subject: Re: WHAT IS HAPPENING? - SLPP WEBSITE UPDATE & PARTY ACTIVITIES
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 18:30:57 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: aca3aa63.ipt.aol.com at 172.163.170.99
Message:
Independent Observing,
You are one of the imbeciles abusing this forum. Your IP has appeared on different posts .We investigated your IP and below is what we found.
Continue making a monkey of yourself on this forum.One day, you will hear a knock on your door and you will find yourself in handcuffs. Just keep keeping on.
Whois Record
OrgName: GoDaddy.com, Inc.
OrgID: GODAD
Address: 14455 N Hayden Road
Address: Suite 226
City: Scottsdale
StateProv: AZ
PostalCode: 85260
Country: US
NetRange: 64.202.160.0 - 64.202.191.255
CIDR: 64.202.160.0/19
NetName: GO-DADDY-SOFTWARE-INC
NetHandle: NET-64-202-160-0-1
Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocat1on
NameServer: CNS1.SECURESERVER.NET
NameServer: CNS2.SECURESERVER.NET
NameServer: CNS3.SECURESERVER.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 2002-10-22
Updated: 2007-06-14
OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE51-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: Abuse Department
OrgAbusePhone: +1-480-624-2505
OrgAbuseEmail:
OrgNOCHandle: NOC124-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Network Operations Center
OrgNOCPhone: +1-480-505-8809
OrgNOCEmail:
OrgTechHandle: NOC124-ARIN
OrgTechName: Network Operations Center
OrgTechPhone: +1-480-505-8809
OrgTechEmail:
Subject: Re: WHAT IS HAPPENING? - Rev, please define abuse of forum
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 13:17:43 12/03/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.208.159.19
Message:
Rev.. Please define what amounts to abusing your forum?
In an anonymous forum as this wherre you are not required to register to post, posting information using different handles shouldn't by itself amount to abuse.
I'm sure the federal authorities can clarify that issue..
Subject: Re: WHAT IS HAPPENING? - SLPP WEBSITE UPDATE & PARTY ACTIVITIES
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 17:23:17 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-144-11-163.range86-144.btcentralplus.com at 86.144.11.163
Message:
May God save people like us from your type. You think you can run things and you do not know how to start. greed selfishness and emptiness cloud your mind with uncertainties. The enemy becomes the one suppose to save you.
The true and loyal SLPP will understand why guys like you greatly affected the progress of our beloved nation. With all the monies you and your cronies stashed away denying people of the basic good water and electricity to fuel transformation.
I will not tell you to shut up. I pray you unmask yourself for the world to see the one telling me to shut-up.
Subject: Daily Muslim Wisdom
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 16:37:03 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
TWO KINDS OF SPEECH
There are two kinds of speeches and two kinds of silences. Speech is either truth or a falsification, and silence is either fruition or heedlessness. If one speaks the truth, his words are better than his silence, but he who invents falsifications, his silence is better than his speech.
ABDUL HAKIM DUMBUYA
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Subject: Re: Daily Muslim Wisdom
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 17:06:27 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: pcd172091.netvigator.com at 203.218.17.91
Message:
Wrong, Silence cannot take you anywhere. If you want to learn English for example you have to practice speaking and writing otherwise you will never progress.
You should not be afraid to say something because of a limited knowledge otherwise you'll never be corrected.
How about a Mende proverb: "Kali wova e lowi lo" Meaning "if a snake gets old it has been in hiding." This does not mean that you should not voice out your concerns.
Bob Marley said it: "Brother man don't tell me that heaven is under the earth, .....get up, stand up, stand up for your right."
Subject: Re: Daily Muslim Wisdom
From: Siaka Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 17:02:12 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: siakamargai@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-72-68-205-23.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 72.68.205.23
Message:
Thanks Alpha...
I heard you in-law, MB Sallu died...RIP
Subject: Re: Daily Muslim Wisdom
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 20:41:55 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Yes sir thanks for your expression of sympathy. Iw ill convey that to my aunt.
Subject: EBK's Brother Implicated in Cable Stealing?
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 15:12:11 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: pcd172091.netvigator.com at 203.218.17.91
Message:
I never believed my own brother when he told me that APC was directly involved in the vandalizing of cables meant for electricity supply to the city until I read somewhere that the President's brother has been directly implicated in cable stealing and hence impeding electricity supply to the city during the SLPP rule. This sort of havoc, undermining and which hunt behavior by the APC regime should stop. It is self destructive and will not take SL anywhere.
Subject: Re: EBK's Brother Implicated in Cable Stealing?
From: SEDOM LUK
To: All
Date Posted: 20:26:59 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: ABU@AOL.COM
Entered From: pool-72-66-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.26.251
Message:
TONY I DO NOT WANT TO GO AFTER YOU OR YOUR BROTHER. HONESTLY , AT THIS POINT IF ANYBODY IS CAUGHT STEALING CABLE WIRES THAT PERSON AND HIS BACKERS WILL BE EXPOSED AND SPEND A LONG TIME IN LOCKUP. WHAT DID THE AUTHORITES THEN DO TO THEM ? IF YOUR REPORTINGS ARE CORRECT , WHY ARE WE LEARNING ABOUT IT NOW? 11YEARS $20 BILLION DOWN THE DRAIN. NO WATER, LIGHT, NO GOOD ROADS AND LAST IN EVERYTHING POSITIVE IN THE WORLD. LET`S COME TOGETHER AND DO SOMETHING GOOD FOR MAMA SALEONE. AM READY YOU JUST POST AND I WILL RESPOND.
Subject: Re: EBK's Brother Implicated in Cable Stealing?
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 08:30:50 12/03/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: n219078100184.netvigator.com at 219.78.100.184
Message:
"TONY I DO NOT WANT TO GO AFTER YOU..."
You sounded violent Mr. Luk if I may say. You must understand that I am the type of man that looks you in your face and tell you that you are wrong if indeed you are wrong. One more important point: �I do not idolize a human being.�
I am truthful, honest and have respect for others and I will not back even my brother if he is wrong. For example:
My late brother was a member of the then APC Government that was ousted by the Strasser regime. I knew it meant a possible prison term for my brother and the taking away of our bread and butter but to some extent I applauded the Strasser regime. This does not mean that I supported a military coup, far from it (and I hope that was the last in the history of our beloved country).
The then APC government was becoming useless: no electricity; no water supply; poor sanitation; exponential corruption; womanizers; lack of respect for education; dishonesty; etc, etc.
Frankly speaking; if I was in SL during the last presidential election I would have voted for EBK and here is my reason: During the presidential Q&A prior to the presidential election, EBK responded to one of the questions that he was at APC to effect a change. Whilst to a similar question Margai said that he will keep on changing the political goal post and so on.
EBK response was smart and I felt then that this guy could be the right man (hoping that he will effect a positive change in SL), only to be disappointed by his lack of attention to the safety of foreigners in the country; the northernizing launch sub-dividing the country with a high potential of instability (something we don�t need anymore in the country); irresponsible and unprofessional awarding of contracts; the list goes on.
Now if you are one of those individuals who are fighting to be noticed, get it clear that I am a rear breed of SL, I am incorruptible and meant good for the nation.
If you are similarly inclined you will understand that S/Leoneans are one of the endangered species in this world--because we are only 5M out of 6B people. So every S/Leonean�s life is invaluable. So I hope you transmit this message to your new admin. and stop threatening your fellow S/Leoneans.
Subject: Please forgive me
From: Knice
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:33 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-457836a6.dyn.optonline.net at 69.120.54.166
Message:
Dearly Beloved:
By some fluke of technology that I no longer care to discern, I cannot see your responses to my postings and therefore cannot respond directly. For some reason I post a message and it disappears, never to be seen by moi again. It is not the fault of Cocorioko management to whom I am immensely grateful for giving us this facility to vent.
So please accept that my lack of direct response in no way implies a lack of respect for your thoughtful responses to what I write. I simply cannot see them, probably the fault of my server. But in a way I am also grateful that this is the case. For I have no interest whatsoever in a tit for tat exchange on any issues. I have no interest whatsoever in the enduring conundrum between the APC and the SLPP, although truth be told I bleed Palm Tree green.
My fundamental stance on issues Sierra Leonean is that there have been massive breakdowns in some very fundamental structures of Sierra Leonean society, which in my opinion account for much of our current plight. I will continue to deliberate on these seeming breakdowns, and when sufficiently inspired I will share my thoughts in postings on this forum. In this pursuit, I will not be flattered by agreements with my views or offended by disagreements with the same. My only wish is that they will get one and all to think, and think outside of the usual box.
So there! Both an appology and a declaration of fidelity to truth. Sierra Leone desrves no less.
Subject: APC nar case : 2 people promised the same job ?
From: Nationalist
To: All
Date Posted: 13:49:50 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
I have called the numbers that were posted on this forum and I urge everyone else to do the same. It is obvious from the responses that State House is waiting on Rev.Kaba Kanu to take up the post of Press Secretary.However, it seems obvious to me that the same job may have been offered this Shekito guy in Britain.Why would the guy make a farewell party if it was not so ? Has APC offered 2 people the same job ? I think State House has to come out with an announcement on this issue. If you don't believe, call Freetown yourself .There is no mention of Shekito. Where is he getting his confidence ?
Subject: Re: APC nar case : 2 people promised the same job ?
From: Block WHO?
To: All
Date Posted: 16:57:06 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 64.202.161.130
Message:
It will serve Kabs right to go here to Freetown and be rejected for Press Secretary post. My information from VERY RELIABLE SOURCES is that this Ayo Lake fellow has seemingly assigned himself the job of internet communication head of some committee or the other and he has made Kabs Kanu head of the sub committee on websites and internet propaganda dissemination. The title is NOT Press Secretary to Ernest Koroma. Kabs is head of some kinmd of sub committee under this Lake fellow who is fighting for some relevancve after Afsatu Kabba exposed his intention to hand the electricity project to some Income Electric group. The APC is in a big mess. No coordination over there at all. But are you surprised? All what Lake did was to bring the Nigeria 419ers that Ellen Johnson Sirleaf REJECTED in Liberia when he took them there and try to impose them on Afsatu Kabba. Afsatu ignored him and made his position as Head of Electricity Task Force redundant and so he was looking for a job and since Kabs the internet and website idiot had carried a report with photo on him, he decided to give himself relevance by assigning to himself the 'portfolio' of presidential website under his communcation committee. Ha ha ha. APC na case. All thing dey upside down!!!
Subject: Re: APC nar case : 2 people promised the same job ?
From: Seriuos Business
To: All
Date Posted: 15:13:37 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: acce8177.ipt.aol.com at 172.206.129.119
Message:
Call who in Freetown? It's only the President that can give such a position to someone. Kabs relies on other people;that is his problem. Shekito was given the job by the President. That's it!!!! Read PV carefully and see the confidence in saying that President Koroma himself spoke to Shekito. So if Kabs has been offerred a job by someone who has also just been offered a job, then the job-giver has the last say. And for all you know, the position is gone already. You can't beat that. Tell it to Kabs
Subject: MR YOUTUBE MAN
From: FORREST GUMP
To: All
Date Posted: 13:39:41 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-146-97-154.range86-146.btcentralplus.com at 86.146.97.154
Message:
We have not heard from you for a few days, already we have missed your youtubers. Please post us a few more to cheer us
FORREST
Subject: REMINDER OF THE RULES
From: CHAIRMAN HIMSELF
To: All
Date Posted: 12:59:14 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74
Message:
For the benefit of good people on this forum, this will be the only warning. If you use this forum to slander and disseminating information or perpetrate in any sorts direct or indirectly, this medium will prosecute you to the full extent of the law.
If you issues with anyone, take it out this forum. If you have posted anything contradicting to the sprite of this forum, we will delete as well as turn you and your IP address to the appropriate Authorities.
In addition, we will like to inform you that we have identify over twenty five IP addresses directly linking these IP addresses to State agencies and places of employment.
We can authoritatively confirm those culprits. It will also be our pleasure write to your place of employment and inform then that they maybe subject to investigation relating to any of the above.
This will be your only warning as participant on this Forum.. In addition, if your IP address is revoked, you do not have the right to participate under any aliases without proper release from the moderator. If you violated any of these rules, it only a matter of time. We will track you and prosecuted to the full extend of the law.
Subject: Re: REMINDER OF THE RULES
From: good idea
To: All
Date Posted: 09:01:06 12/04/07 ()
Email Address: goodidea@msn.com
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I feel if you want to monitor whats been posted you can set up your site so those that want to post need to register with you. so any jack and harry woudl nto post. if your aim is to limit some of these people who use freedom fo speech to slander others. but if you wish this to remain a forum where freedom of speech thrives I say just let people type what they want. its a blog. we should be responsible and not belive everythign we read. or if it offends you what they type or if its false. get a team to use truth and information to counter all false information posted. these are just ideas. keep the good job going. we all most learn to disagree with each other.
Subject: Re: REMINDER OF THE RULES
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 18:01:21 12/02/07 ()
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QUOTE: In addition, we will like to inform you that we have identify over twenty five IP addresses directly linking these IP addresses to State agencies and places of employment.
We can authoritatively confirm those culprits. It will also be our pleasure write to your place of employment and inform then that they maybe subject to investigation relating to any of the above. UNQUOTE
I find this quite disturbing, even as an empty threat. We often complain about "bad hart" and Pull him down syndrome". Please match your penalties to the crime. Writing to a person's place of employment to complain about misbehavior on this forum is a totally unacceptable breach of privacy and just a downright horrible thing to do. Think carefully about the consequences of your actions before you take them.
Subject: Re: REMINDER OF THE RULES
From: Block Who?
To: All
Date Posted: 16:49:28 12/02/07 ()
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Message:
Mr. Chairman,
You are the biggest FOOL on the Internet if you honestly think you can block anyone from writing here.
We just dont even bothere to come here anymore as the true purpose of the forum has been exposed.
Forum and its organisers have no more credibility so block all you wish. You are truly a class idiot Sir!
Subject: PLEASE PAY UP, MISTER VICE PRESIDENT
From: Sempu J.
To: All
Date Posted: 11:05:28 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: sempuj@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-72-68-44-154.nwrknj.east.verizon.net at 72.68.44.154
Message:
Mr. Moderator, why deleting all my postings? I know the forum is to discuss issues that are affecting our country, but this mister so-called Vice President of a bank is a Sierra Leonean who have to pay his fellow Sierra Leonean the sum of $620. He has to pay up. It is very unfair.
Rev. Kanu, I have the greatest respect for you. I think you made a mistake by associating yourself with people like Foday and Alex. Look at what Alex did to a woman sometime ago, regarding an airline ticket. Look at what Foday did to one of his cousin, Musa. They are all crooks. You should not have associated yourself with these crooks. This is no witch hunting. It is the plain truth. This so-called APC senior executive should pay this poor woman her $620. It is very unfair.
I was told that the IP address of the computers at the Franklin township library have been blocked to access the forum. This is also unfair. Why then is the essence of the forum. It is better we dont have anything like the cocorioko forum. Mister big shot, please, please pay the poor woman her money. If you dont pay up, we inform Prezo EBK. Again, Rev. Kabs dont get me wrong, I have great respect for you. I know your brother Max-Kanu of SLBS fame. He was working with my brother at SLBS and used to visit us in Freetown.
Subject: Re: PLEASE PAY UP, MISTER VICE PRESIDENT
From: MODERATOR
To: All
Date Posted: 11:57:48 12/02/07 ()
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(I tried to be discret by sending you this email but it came back.)
I hope you can find other means of resolving you issue with the party that owes you money. You could for example go to a small claims court to resolve this issue.
The Cocorioko forum has always been an independent non partisan meeting ground for all Sierra Leoneans and friends of Sierra Leone.
Let us please keep the forum free of issues that would ruin its good reputation. I respect people who respect themselves, and this includes you.
Cheers!
/Moderator
Subject: BRA ENVIABLE STEPS ON NERVES
From: Pa Alpha
To: All
Date Posted: 10:21:17 12/02/07 ()
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"However, what I find disturbing is the trend of screaming Tribalism from the rafters and your projection into its vortex as its main proponent and drum major." Alieu Iscandari
" One thing about you that I have come to understand is that you have an incredible analytical mind set which I admire and appreciate, however your tendency to lead the RAH RAH crowd takes away from your lustre..." Alieu Iscandari
"If the government of ernest Koroma takes on a tribal appointment policy, I will be the first to raise my voice in Protest. So far I do not see that to be the case..." Alieu Iscandari
The above are quotes from Alieu Iscandari in response to a well thought-out analytical piece by Bra Enviable excoriating Ernest Koroma for his blatant practice of regionalism and tribalism in making national appointments. I find Iscandari's utterings PATRONIZING AND outright DISGUSTING since they represent a sinister ploy at not only evading the truth but also at silencing Bra Enviable. At some point in his nonsensical "rebutal," Alieu even cunningly appeals and "LAY BELLEHS" to his "friendship" with Enviable, all in a bid to stop the man from carrying out his patriotic duties relative to constructive criticisms.
For Alieu to say that "If the government of Ernest Koroma takes on a tribal appointment policy, I will be the first to raise my voice in Protest.." is outright preposterous since Alieu being an open anti-Mende TRIBALIST will be the last person to ever cry wolf at an administration that considers Southeasterners redundant to its national policy initiatives.
It is APC Alieu's right to be blissful about the regionalistic and tribalistic bent of his APC government. However, it is disingenious for him to deceitfully interfere with the work of a patriotic brother who puts Sierra Leone above everthing else. If Tejan Kabbah and Solomon Berewa got it from Enviable, I see no reason why Ernest Koroma should be untouchable.
BRA ENVIABLE, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK. NEWS ON THE GROUND INTIMATES THAT YOU ARE LOVED AND ADMIRED BY MANY.
Subject: Re: BRA ENVIABLE STEPS ON NERVES
From: Truth be said
To: All
Date Posted: 16:51:13 12/02/07 ()
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"anti-Mende TRIBALIST"
then again he may not be that. He just might be someone who speaks the truth about the domination of sierra leone by mendes to the detriment of the whole country. Yours is particularly a DUMB comment on Alieu personality. Has he ever told you that he is an "anti mende Tribalist"? Probably not. So give it up some people do not accept pre definition and your attampt to do so of that brother sucks. Alieu that I know is everything but anti mende.
Subject: Re: BRA ENVIABLE STEPS ON NERVES
From: Emmanuel Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 16:40:02 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I have come to see Bra Enviable as brilliant man with a penchant for saying it as it is. The man openly said he "suck SLPP nar bobbi," but when he saw Tejan Kabbah go astray, he lambasted the SLPP government without being held back by the fact that he was born in the SLPP family. Those APC tribalists making weak attacks on Bra Enviable cannot make a point against the man.
Bra Enviable is right: The APC is tribalistic and President Koroma's tribalism is too clear not to be seen. Those who love Sierra Leone will surely be disturbed by the fact that every major appointment made in the new government is made to promote what Bra Enviable calls "bungling tribal friends." Shame on this tribalistic government
Subject: THE BAMBAY RUMOUR
From: MODERATOR
To: All
Date Posted: 09:17:20 12/02/07 ()
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Message:
Bambay is alive and kicking. Someone called to inform me about his death which they read about at Leone Club forum. I was alarmed as you all are, and immediately came to Cocorioko, where I found our man doing what he likes doing, c posting. Youfll find his last contribution on the link below.
Now compare the time the rumor was out [Nov 29 2007, 03:29 PM], and that of Bambay's latest contribution to the Cocorioko Forum. The link below will prove to you that the rumor was out long before his recent postings.
Subject: Re: THE BAMBAY RUMOUR
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 14:16:00 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: pcd172091.netvigator.com at 203.218.17.91
Message:
Have you taken account of the different time zones Moderator? I have never met Bambay but like Fen Plaba said we are like a family on this forum and I think a posting from Bambay himself is really what we need because I am getting extremely worried. There has been no postings from him since Nov. 29.
Subject: Re: THE BAMBAY RUMOUR -DO YOU BELIEVE IN GHOSTS?
From: Nar Me
To: All
Date Posted: 10:51:17 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: thenewsletter@hotmail.com
Entered From: amontsouris-152-1-51-160.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr at 83.202.9.160
Message:
Bambay, are you in the land of the Living or the Dead? Please post something!
Subject: Re: THE BAMBAY RUMOUR
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 09:35:42 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thank you Moderator. Now, I'm all smiles. Enjoy the Sunday.
Subject: Re: THE BAMBAY RUMOUR
From: MODERATOR
To: All
Date Posted: 09:47:19 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
No prob! And I can bet my Sunday Cold Fufu that Candid Opinion didn't have to help me in this. Cheers all!
/Moderator
Subject: Re: THE BAMBAY RUMOUR
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:42:26 12/02/07 ()
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Message:
hehehehe.....
I dont take food bets..
How about the church collection for today..?
Oh.. ah forget.. nah god money..?
Orlangba... cold fufu? Send tha temne gyal nah kitchen now, my wife would not dare..she cooks another foofoo ball first thing on sunday, breakfast of egusi and cow foooot bone just went south.. HOT.
I know.. its just an expression.. but cant help parambulating off the topic..
Well its my own homage to Bambay. I hope the chap is alive and kicking..
Subject: When two fools meet
From: alpha bah
To: All
Date Posted: 07:40:40 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: bah@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 67.151.233.125
Message:
When two fools meet, there is a danger that their activities might not be in the interest of mama Salone. Is Honest Bai Koroma in charge or his deputy.The APC is still up to their old tricks. They will present the head and then have someone else remoting the operations of governance. From all indications it is like IB Kargbo is now running the state because whatever he says is what goes on the next moment. He decided that APC carbinet meetings should be held in Makeni and today it is a reality. Every Fridays, meetings are now hosted to discuss on how to deal with people who were not supporters of the APC especially if you are not coming from the south-east. So who is in charge? Neither the president nor the VP.
Subject: Deportation Investigation of Africans in New Jersey
From: Melissa Bona
To: All
Date Posted: 05:57:09 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: MyBoner@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 12.150.15.2
Message:
It seems Agnes Kulu Banya's son in law Tyrone Jamison the Bully American and family are having members of the Fakondo church family look into... No doubt by the son in law who works for immigartion. I guess the Muscle Bound Boxer Pimp Thug and African BUTT Strecther of married African woman is very busy..
Subject: Re: Deportation Investigation of Africans in New Jersey
From: Susan Anderson
To: All
Date Posted: 06:02:32 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: and@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 12.150.15.2
Message:
Those Banyas are at it again,, this Tyrone Jamison? Agnes Kulu Banya was never no do gooder as she potrayed, she slept with married men also... She is no different from her sisters.. Though she is mad at Victor now, did'nt Victor give you money for your home when you moved out of affordable housing for poor people?
Subject: Re: Deportation Investigation of Africans in New Jersey
From: Sarah Anderson
To: All
Date Posted: 08:03:02 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: Ssrah@verizon.net
Entered From: at 12.150.15.2
Message:
Its a shame that one of my family members is involved in this mess.. It is up setting to know this, and more up setting that it has been taken to this level..
Subject: OREMI ISCANDRI: WHAT'S UP WITH BAMBAY??
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 05:50:20 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The distressing rumour about Bambay Lans Kamara's death hangs like a pall over this forum. I pray to God that this is just a sick prank. However, there is cause for worry. Things happen in this country. I have never met Bambay in person, except through his postings. But he is like family, as are so many forumites. Every tragedy diminishes us all.
Alieu, if there is any credence to this rumour from the West Coast please inform us.
Meanwhile, I wish Bambay well. A post from Bambay will really make my day. Say something, bro, anything!
Subject: NEPOTISM ?
From: Siaka Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 02:29:44 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: siakamargai@yahoo.com
Entered From: 24hrpc7.cpmc.columbia.edu at 156.111.18.146
Message:
When those in power show favouritism to relatives and friends (giving them jobs which they do not deserve.)
I would say its a lot better now than it was during my paternal grandpa, Albert, and Siaka, my maternal grandpa..
Subject: Re: NEPOTISM ?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 05:35:58 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Indeed my brother, we should always hope for better days. The tribe, which is such a source of pride to us, is also a combustible curse in all Africa. Take any country on this darned continent, from the two Congos to Biafra/Nigeria, Rwanda, Liberia, Guinea, Sierra Leone, everywhere and the toxins of the tribe continue to eat away at the sinews of Nationhood.
Even as I continue to support EBK and continue to have faith in his nobler instincts, I remember having a sinking feeling of dread as Northerners dominated the Cabinet. This has exposed EBK to all sorts of absurd charges at a time when we should be uniting everyone to develop the country. Why would you want to give your enemies a stick to clobber you with?
Whether we like it or not, we do have 'affirmative action' in Salone when it comes to Cabinet slots.
For political amity, it is better to have a government of incompetents from every region than risk political animus by selecting the most competent ministers mainly from a single region.
I hope the president rectifies this 'tilt' soon. Just cut the Gordian knot, Sir. Start firing people for infractions and add more Mendes, Krios and Kissis as ministers and top functionaries. It's a sordid business but someone's got to do it. This is the reality of our multiethnic society.
Unless a 'Regional Reflection' is shown in the government, poison darts will continue to pester this govt's Achilles heel. I hope those who have the president's ear give him some straight talk about this. Please take out this irritation and be the greatest post-independence leader in Sierra Leone.
Subject: SLPP Complains to Ban Ki Moon:Remove Victor Angelo Now!!
From: Alhaji Usman Nurudin S. Jah
To: All
Date Posted: 01:08:09 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Sierra Leone People�s Party Complains to Ban Ki Moon: Remove Victor Angelo Now!
By Alhaji U. N. S. Jah (SLPP National Chairman)
Nov 30, 2007, 21:51
SIERRA LEONE PEOPLE'S PARTY
NATIONAL SECRETARIAT
Freetown, Sierra Leone.
National Chairman
Alhaji U.N.S. Jah
National Secretary General
Mr. Jacob Jusu Saffa
Administrative Secretary
Mr. Brima E. Koroma
H E Ban Ki-Moon
United Nations Secretary-General
United Nations Secretariat,
New York, USA.
November 28, 2007
Dear Secretary-General,
Complaint against Mr Victor Angelo, Executive Representative of the Secretary-General, Sierra Leone
I write to you, Sir, for and on behalf of the Sierra Leone People�s Party (SLPP). We would like to record our Party�s profound and abiding appreciation for the immense help the United Nations rendered in mobilizing resources for the Presidential and Parliamentary Elections carried out in Sierra Leone in August and September 2007,
That said, however, our Party would like to bring to Your Excellency�s attention its utter disappointment with your Executive Representative to Sierra Leone, Mr Victor Angelo and in particular, the manner in which he discharged his responsibilities regarding those elections.
In saying this, we have in mind especially international legal instruments that spelt out the minimum international standards for the comportment of diplomatic agents of States and the high officers of international organizations. What is more, those international instruments were adopted by the international community under the auspices of the United Nations. We believe this in itself must carry an extraordinary duty on the part of the servants of the United Nations to observe and respect scrupulously the injunctions contained in those instruments.
Regrettably, however, we observe with great disappointment that the behaviour of your Representative during the run up to the Elections and immediately thereafter seemed to have fallen considerably short of what is ordinarily regarded as acceptable standard of behaviour of a Head of Mission.
Accordingly, the Sierra Leone People�s Party has resolved that until Mr Victor Angelo is recalled and replaced as your Executive Representative to Sierra Leone, the Party and its members shall withhold their participation and co-operation from all United Nations programmes and activities in Sierra Leone.
Your Excellency, we are fully cognizant of the implications of this decision but we believe this is about the only way the Party and its entire membership can convey to you the strength of how they feel about Mr Victor Angelo.
Please accept, Excellency, the assurances of our highest consideration.
Alhaji Usman Nurudin S. Jah
National Chairman
Copy: Minority Leader, Sierra Leone Legislature
Copy: Minister, Foreign Affairs and International Cooperation
Copy: President, ECOWAS
Copy: Executive Representative to the U.N. Secretary-General, Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: SLPP Complains to Ban Ki Moon:Remove Victor Angelo Now!!
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 07:51:41 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
This letter is filling a complaint about the UN rep in Freetown, but the author did not say what he was complaining about apart from saying that he was disappointed. I have to say that the UN rep has nothing to answer as long as his boss is happy with his performance. There is not one single substantive allegation for him to respond to. It appears that this letter constitute a cinical ploy to harass the UN reps and to force the UN sec gen to withdraw him. It only reveal that the SLPP is unhappy with the rep +and that their defeat at the hands of an opposition that was totally in disarray has begun to sink in.
JJ Blood who wrote this vain letter must realised that he cannot choose who the UN can post in Freetown by writing a letter of protest without any foundation. He should also realised that the UN knew better.
Subject: Re: Lol. Desperation at its worst!
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 02:50:00 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c83-248-83-118.bredband.comhem.se at 83.248.83.118
Message:
LOL! ROTFLMAO!
You people still need to come to terms with the trouncing you received from EBK.It was real and it was all your fault-CONCEIT.
Why is it so difficult for you to understand that the people of Salone had rejected you and have sent your party to the political dustbin? Does it require any special formulae or high level mathematics to make you understand that you deserved to be humiliated at the polls?
Stop this blame game and refrain from pointing fingers.Victor Angelo is in Salone to stay until the end of his term.No amount of accusations or defamation can influence any Ban Ki Moon decision against Angelo.This letter will be a wild goose chase!
Subject: Re: Lol. Desperation at its worst!
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 03:32:46 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I refuse to believe that this note was generated by the SLPP high Command. Surely no one in the SLPP would sanction something this STUPID. Or would they? Well taking their track record into consideration, I would not be surprised these people are stark crazy.
Considering that they have NO STANDING to request the removal of the SRSG, it is the height of CONCEIT AND ARROGANCE for these people to have written such a stupid letter. I am sure ban ki moon is laughing his butt off in korean and calling them stupid.
I woder why these people do not go out and elect competent nation builders like Bra E into their upper heirachy rather than the mish mash of shortsighted pseudo intellectuals they have there now. When is the next SLPP elections for party reps, can I contest? Even me an avowed APC till I die would have done better than this trash these people have written. So what do they want? Have the SGUN kiss their behinds and feel sorry for their pitiful behinds? Give us a break here the air is just stale with SLPP bull crap.
Subject: Re: Lol. Desperation at its worst!
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 04:54:22 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Sorry O. As usual SLPP is RITGMAMOI! Just made that one up Oremi.
Rolling in the gutter, making a monkey of itself!
Subject: Re: Lol. Desperation at its worst!
From: Stingray
To: All
Date Posted: 11:51:32 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.216
Message:
SLPP participation or not, would it actually make any difference? It's more like a sore loser withdrawing into a self-inflicted isolation! Or is the SLPP old guard trying to talk tough/make an impression for the wrong reasons? The Party Jus Don Lost Track! Jess Dae Blunder Fitti Fatta!
Subject: Re: Lol. Desperation at its worst!
From: Salone Police
To: All
Date Posted: 12:02:19 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: Salonepolice@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-75-53-204-107.dsl.hstntx.sbcglobal.net at 75.53.204.107
Message:
But UN post-conflict diplomats are not normally maintained when they stop commanding the respect and confidence of all parties in a post-conflict situation. Generally, they get re-posted. That is just how the UN works. So I am sure that the UN Secretary General's office will re-post and replace Angelo and bring in someone who is going to regain the confidence of all stakeholders.
Subject: INSPIRED BY BAMBAY LANS KAMARA
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 01:03:53 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
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Subject: Re: INSPIRED BY BAMBAY LANS KAMARA
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 01:07:48 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
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Subject: Whining on the Sacking of the Central Bank Governor�..
From: Plein Tok
To: All
Date Posted: 00:40:59 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gateway.cyberstar.com at 209.239.66.36
Message:
Whining on the Sacking of the Central Bank Governor�..Is It President Ernest Koroma's Prerogative?
Posted by on Dec 1, 2007, 05:00
A lot of noise has been made about President Ernest Bai Koroma regarding his decision to request the former Central Bank Governor, Dr J.D. Rogers to relinquish his position about a month ago. Members of the general populace, particularly supporters of the Sierra Leone Peoples Party continue to vehemently oppose this decision, and many other actions of the newly elected President. Their decision to criticize and challenge President Ernest Bai Koroma�s action is based on the idea that some of those individuals should enjoy a security of tenure and as such, they cannot be fired or asked to resign.
In a strict sense, the basis of arguments by some of the sympathizers and supporters could be considered but, they should also be informed that in the game of governance, politics precede legality and the President�s action cannot be holistically dismissed in a frivolous manner. The loud cries that continue to echo in the ears of Sierra Leoneans from stalwarts of the Sierra Leone People�s Party, concerning the dismissal of their supporters from enviable positions and the inevitable decision that would be taken by most of them that are still occupying responsible and strategic positions in government, have raised a lot of concerns in every quarter of this country. Attempt will now be made to evaluate their concerns and see the short comings and justifications. It is an open secret that prior to the election of President Ernest Bai Koroma and the ruling All Peoples Congress previous leaders have successfully terminated the services of government officials that were to enjoy a security of tenure. It turned out that the aggrieved individuals never took any action that would undermine the activities of the substantive government. There are very prominent and tangible evidences that we shall use to substantiate our claims. First in the row was Justice Beccles Davies. He was supposed to enjoy a security of tenure but in the administration of the Sierra Leone Peoples party and in the wisdom of ex-president Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, he had attained his saturation period and thus he was sacked from his position before the end of his term. Nothing came out of the action of the ex-president and nothing came out of the membership of the Sierra Leone Peoples Party.
Similarly, during the tenure of ex-president Tejan Kabbah, Justice Timbo, who was the Chief Justice and supposed to enjoy a security of tenure was asked to resign his position because, he was considered in the eyes of the then president as no longer competent to perform his duty. Justice Timbo never challenged the ex-president�s legality or illegality, neither was the action challenged by Parliament or any other concerned group. Instead, his dismissal brought happiness to some members, both in the SLPP and the judiciary.
To complete his administrative action, ex-President Tejan Kabbah dismissed or asked the then Governor of the Central Bank, Steve Swarray to resign. Mr. Steve Swarray was asked to resign by ex-president Tejan Kabbah and that did not attract any publications of hate or witch hunting. Mr. Sampha Koroma, another Central Bank Governor was also asked to resign before completing his second term. To make matters worse he was handed over to Valentine Collier, the then Commissioner of the Anti-Corruption Commission for further probing by the out gone President. This was a calculated effort by the then government to bring disrepute on this fine gentleman. But he was never found wanting and was left a free man later. There are equally other important state functionaries whose tenure of office were brought to an abrupt end by ex-president Tejan Kabbah, but those dismissals and termination were never converted into the country�s National Anthem. The question that is presently being asked is why should the President�s decisions to hire and fire officials be robustly contested by Parliament, especially when similar decisions had taken place without any hue or cry from any of these arms of government? The answer to this question is quite simple. It is sabotage.
Some egocentric individuals are of the view that by condemning President Koroma�s initial decision, they would have succeeded in frustrating his long term plans for this nation. But as a responsible entity, we will never sit by and see handful ethnocentric and unpatriotic folks undermine and bring shame on our President Ernest Bai Koroma.
There was in fact no reason for the messages of hate and condemnation on the President because of his action. He is not the first leader of this country or universe to have undertaken such decisions and surely he would not be the last.
To further substantiate President Ernest Bai Koroma�s action to ask Dr J.D. Rogers, the out gone Governor of the Bank of Sierra Leone, we shall highlight the provisions of section 70 and 71 of the 1991 constitution respectively as references. However to save time, section 79 paragraph a-e of Act No. 6 of the 1991 constitution provides as follows: �The President may appoint, in accordance with the provisions of this constitution or any other law, the following persons (a) the Chief Justice (b) any Justice of the Supreme Court, Court of Appeal, or Judge of the High Court (c) the Auditor General (d) the sole commissioner or the chairman and other members of any commission established by this constitution (e) the chairman and other members of the governing body of any corporation established by an Act of Parliament, a statutory instrument, or out of public funds, subject to the approval of Parliament� section 71 reads thus �Notwithstanding the provisions of section 152 of this constitution and save as other wise provided in this constitution, the President shall, in accordance with the provisions of this constitution or any other law, appoint. (a) to any office to which section 141 (which relates to the offices within the Jurisdiction of the Judicial and Legal Services Commission) applies (b) to any office to which sections 153 and 154 which relate to certain offices abroad and the offices of Permanent secretaries respectively, apply (c) the governor and the other members of the governing body of any state Bank, Banking or Financial Institutions�
From the aforementioned sections of the 1991 constitution of Sierra Leone, it is expressly clear that President Ernest Bai Koroma was justifiable in his decision to ask Dr J.D. Rogers to resign his position. How would the critics of the President have expected him to utilize his constitutional mandate without either dismissing or asking to resign?
It is only a vicious act that would have over shadowed the minds of the critics in pursuing their claims. Their demands do not have any political efficacy and should not be prioritized by this government.
The best thing that could be done by any aggrieved individual or group of individuals is to take this matter to the Supreme Court for a ruling. This would have a long lasting effect instead of engaging in arm chair criticisms.
By and large, Sierra Leoneans should have it in mind that even in the more advanced democracies of the world, it is at the prerogative of the substantive head of state to hire and fire public officials. The SLPP should not blame the newly elected President Ernest Bai Koroma, but the out gone President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah who during his eleven years in office demonstrated no respect for the Constitution, not the mention our past rubber stamp Parliament and Parliamentarians who were there only to be seen and collect.
Subject: Re: Whining on the Sacking of the Central Bank Governor�..
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 18:48:04 12/02/07 ()
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Interesting analysis and justification. This is one action of the new president that does not sit well with me.
Firstly, I am not sure that Section 71(c)applies to the Bank of Sierra Leone. It talks about "any state Bank, Banking or Financial Institutions". This suggests to me that the framers were comntemplating state institutions regulated by the central bank, such as NDB or Commercial bank, and not the central bank itself.
Secondly, Section 79 (e) states "the chairman and other members of the governing body of any corporation established by an Act of Parliament, a statutory instrument, or out of public funds, subject to the approval of Parliament". This DOES apply to BoSL, because it was established by an Act of parliamnet circa 1964. However there are two points to be made here:
(1) The BoSL Act prescribes the term of office for the governor to be 5 years. There may be provisions within the Act for the removal or dismissal of the governor prior to the end of his term, but I am not familiar with them. In the absence of such provisons the incumbent has a right to serve out his term or be fired for cause, or with appropriate compensation. He would have a common law right to contest his dismissal as unfair or prejudiced, but I'll leave that to the lawyers.
(2) In Section 79 (e), note the key words "with the approval of parliament". If the constitution requires parliamentary approval to appoint the governor, then one must assume that parliamentary approval is required to fire the governor. This would be one and the same thing, had parliament confirmed the new nominee. Apparently this has not yet happened so we are faced with a stalemate between the Executive branch and the Legislative branch. Beautiful.
In my mind, the Executive branch made a tactical blunder here. Someone should have got a legal opinion from the AG before they announced the governor's dismissal. They must now either pay the governor enough for him to resign voluntarily, or persuade the parliamentary opposition to vote for the new nominee.
Isn't democracy a wonderful thing?
Subject: BAMBAY , WE LOVE YOU : PLEASE CLARIFY
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 21:24:06 12/01/07 ()
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Bambay, I have been sad whole day today, but then something keeps telling me it is a prank. If this is a prank by somebody, please come out and tell us. We love you. Some of us are very emotional. We can't stand grief. Let's hear from you, if this is false, so our hearts will be at rest.
Subject: Re: BAMBAY , WE LOVE YOU : PLEASE CLARIFY
From: CHAIRMAN HIMSELF.
To: All
Date Posted: 22:43:21 12/01/07 ()
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Ladies and Gentlemen, Please in the interest of Rev. Privacy, it will be prudent and right thing to do, to leave this subject alone for now. The State house
Will eventually announce the nominee when they are ready.
Until such a time, we should concentrate on issues to help us grow as people.
Let�s pray for wisdom and understanding.
The enemy of man is not the perpetrators who hide behind the curtains to unlish scenical attacks on others.But it is Sickness that Robb and destroys the very fabric of our happiness and future.
Sickness is the worse Enemy of Man. May the almighty grant good heath to all of us through -out our remaining useful days.
Subject: LAND
From: Siaka Margai
To: All
Date Posted: 20:03:09 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: siakamargai@yahoo.com
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Every nation or settlement is kept together by laws especially over land. All of SL's almost twenty ethno-linguistic groups consider land sacred and most believe present generation inherited it and must be custodian of it till the future generation takes over. During the colonial era our nation was divided into two main governing entities namely: colony and protectorate. Later as we got closer to independence it became upline and freetown area. Moving a little away from SL you must have heard of Zimbabwe's current Land Wahala. In SL an effort was made to avoid 'bullying' by Creole-man long ago as their concept of Land Ownership/Tenure is far different from the Contry-man. I think Sierra Leoneans must look deeply into Land Reform considering the rationale of our ancestors and ours. Having in mind that whatever we do now will have very positive or negative effect on the future generations...
Subject: A limit should be made on the subject
From: Dylan Sogie-Thomas
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Date Posted: 18:00:32 12/01/07 ()
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It would be good if this website can limit the subject open for discussion say for example and at the end of that week write a summary as to what concerned citizens want for their darling country.We cannot achieve anything from this forum if ever Jack is allowed to open discussion topic.We want developments now not personal interest.Lets come up with ideas that can help develop our country.Like responsibilities of Parliamentarians, Role of civil servants, education for the police, do we need traffic police or should we empower the wardens etc
Subject: Re: A limit should be made on the subject
From: Nar True
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Date Posted: 19:09:47 12/01/07 ()
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I believe, the top of this page reads, "THIS COCORIOKO FORUM has been set up to provide Sierra Leoneans with a vehicle through which they can express their views about matters affecting their country."
Subject: Re: A limit should be made on the subject
From: Censorship???
To: All
Date Posted: 18:05:38 12/01/07 ()
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This smacks of censorship. If a particular thread does not appeal to you, you have the freedom to ignore it but do not try to impose your values on others. This a free forum for the exchange of ideas.
Subject: LAND
From: KNICE
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Date Posted: 14:39:38 12/01/07 ()
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As it is I enjoy the liberty to acquire land assets in the western area and in any quantities I can afford. Sierra Leoneans who are native to the western area on the other hand do not enjoy the same privilege in my native Kailahun. Such iniquity must be understandably vexing to them and does not serve Sierra Leone well. These are just the sort of inane traditions that impede our efforts to forge a Sierra Leonean personality and viewpoint; that delay our transformation into becoming Sierra Leoneans. As for those who wonder why Sierra Leone remains poor, the impotence of our land resources, a direct consequence of our curious tradition, is an important contributing factor. How did all this come about?
I am not sufficiently knowledgeable to be categorical about any aspects of land policy in Sierra Leone. But the little that I have learned suggests that this archaic tradition is the result of deliberate British colonial policy. The abolitionists who were instrumental in the creation of the Sierra Leonean nation had a genuine and I believe sincere concern that a laissez faire policy regarding land would form incentive for settlers in the colony, who at that time were better educated and superior managers, to dominate land ownership at the expense of the natives in the protectorate. Our founders were also very sensitive that Sierra Leone, which was chosen as a haven for emancipated slaves would not indulge in policies that would result in hegemony of any kind, on the part of these same settlers at the expense of the natives. It would of course be unfair to judge 18th century thought through the prism of 21st century values, and I will not do so.
That however was some three hundred years ago, and Sierra Leone has been independent for nearly a half century now. We are well overdue to start viewing our natural resources with an eye on national over parochial benefits. Land which is potentially our most important asset also happens to be potentially a more lucrative cash cow than all mineral resources combined. More importantly, land properly and sensibly used is renewable as minerals are not. If our land resources therefore have not contributed their due share to our development, it is precisely because we have so far failed to examine and to amend for our own benefit a land tenure system that has by now completely outlived whatever usefulness it may have enjoyed in the past.
It is no wonder a plantation system that was fundamental to most colonial legacies never took hold in Sierra Leone. Many former colonies have parlayed these plantation legacies into a basis for booming manufacturing economies. What is also clear to me is that our land resources will never contribute their full potential to national wealth until we replace our current obviously obsolete traditions with one that will especially allow and protect clear title to land by individuals and institutions, both domestic and foreign. We are in dire need of investors who can acquire and improve our land resources for greater productivity. This will reauire capital and no financial institution, domestic or international, will make available the needed capital until there is clear title that can convert land assets into valid collateral for securing the necessary loans.
But as we consider how we can best leverage our land resources, we must remember that perceptions of land are highly variable across Sierra Leone. Highly variable because there are for instance enormous cultural differences between say, Mendes and Temnes. These differences are evident in our perceptions of, and traditions pertaining to among other things, land resources. Unfortunately it is the manifestations of these cultural differences that are frequently, and I might add erroneously maligned as tribalism. But that is another story for another time.
Our cultural differences however are powerful enough to defeat the intent of any policy initiatives that deny their reality. It will therefore be a serious mistake to design a one size fits all solution to land issues. For this reason land policy must by necessity be the province of district (local) governments, including the two districts of the western area. One approach towards this end is for us to: (1) take a complete inventory of our national land resources; (2) allow the national government to negotiate for title to a land reserve that may be needed for conservation, infrastructure, and other national purposes; and (3) concede the remainder land resources to exclusive management by district governments.
Some districts may well choose to restrict ownership of their land resources to only their residents or perhaps even to only those who are born in their districts. They should be free to do so. Others may open ownership of their land resources to all Sierra Leoneans, which also is fine. Still others may open up land ownership to include even foreign interests. They too should be free to do so. What I envision will emerge in this dynamic scenario are opportunities for experimentation across fourteen autonomous district jurisdictions. Two things that are not be tenable are first, the imposition of a tradition that is valid in one part of the country to the entire country; and second, making western area land resources a free for all as we deny western area citizens rights to land assets in parts outside of their region.
With reform that grants autonomy to district governments in land policy, I can vividly imagine the energy of innovation and competition that will ensue among districts as they strive to make the most of their land resources. The potential bonanza for the nation defies imagination.
Subject: Re: LAND
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
To: All
Date Posted: 04:15:34 12/02/07 ()
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Some districts may well choose to restrict ownership of their land resources to only their residents or perhaps even to only those who are born in their districts. They should be free to do so.
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Should they really be free to do so? Wouldn't that be considered discrimination? Should any one in sierra leone be free to arbitrarily discriminate against another sierra leonean? Isnt this against the constitution?
I think that we need to give this matter more than just a passing thought in order to provide for a more sustainable and equitable solution. Your suggestions are on the right path though and we should keep talking about it. My take is that successive governments have used this policy to continue the western area and provincial divide. I recall an incident where my father bought a piece of land in Mile 91 for the purpose of growing some rice.
After the rice was cultivated jst about harvest time some other fellow comes over and claims that the land is his and that he was now claiming the crops that had been grown on the land. My father left the crops and dissapointingly kmoved over to freetown. The point here is that there must be a change in the law and that change is long over due. Thanks for bringing this matter up to for discussion.
Subject: Re: LAND
From: KONOPADY
To: All
Date Posted: 01:44:59 12/02/07 ()
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Message:
THIS WAS A SYSTEM BEREWA SAID "DURING ONE OF HIS CAMPAING TRAILS IN THE SOUTH-EAST" HE WOULD PRESERVE.
Subject: Re: LAND
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 21:24:19 12/01/07 ()
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As usual, a well-written and well thought out piece from KNICE. This is one subject that I have yet to shape an opinion on. Land has, and continues to be the root cause of most, if not all military conflicts in the history of mankind. It touches on the very essence of our humanity, for every human being MUST have that one place they call home.
When I acquired my first plot of land (in Canada of all places) I walked around the undeveloped lot saying to myself, "finally, this is MY own piece of the planet Earth, to do with as I please, free of all emcumberances, MINE!" I hope that a day will come when every resident (notice I did not say citizen) of Sierra Leone with the finacial means, will have the same opportunity to own property for business or pleasure wherever they please. How we get there, well, therein lies the challenge.
Subject: Re: LAND
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 16:18:32 12/01/07 ()
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It was on this Forum that I first learned this curious fact of land ownership: That Upliners can buy land in Freetown but Krios are barred from doing likewise in the provinces. I really had no idea. My maternal home is Masiaka where I spent many a happy childhood vacation and one of the landmarks of that little town was a hulking, three story-building building called the BOND STREET HOTEL. The owner of that building was C.V During, a Krio. So I grew up with an impression that is contrarian to what I now know to be the truth.
I hope this crazy situation is corrected. This explains the strarospheric land prices in Freetown!
Subject: Re: LAND
From: Oh themneh
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Date Posted: 18:57:27 12/01/07 ()
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Many people are making wrong assertions about land ownership in the provinces, but the fact is any body can buy land anywhere in salone if he/she have the means to do so. Besides, freetown is originally belong to the koya themnehs, not the creoles, because the krios were not in salone till 1787. Moreover, the many krios do not want to live in the provinces because they think the provinces and its people are premitive.
Subject: Re: LAND
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 16:39:25 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
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Fen Plaba;
I am from a land owing class but I do not own land myself. I will invite you to visit Kenema and test your assertion that Krios cannot own or buy land in upline. I personally know krios who owned lands and properties in kenema. I can assure that anyone who can give a couple of leones can purchase a land in Kenema no matter where they come from. Infact the so called land owning class now have no land for themselves as they have sold every piece of land. I have yet to study the laws relating to the ownership of land.
Subject: GO BO TOWN ON SEWA ROAD TO SEE ONE DR TOP
From: okdok
To: All
Date Posted: 19:18:06 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: okdok@yahoo.com
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Message:
THERE MANY CREOLS WHO OWN LAND.THE TRUTH IS THAT THEY DONT WANT TO LIVE FRRETOWN THINKING THAT THEY ARE WHITE
Subject: Re: LAND
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 16:40:58 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
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Owning Class not owing.
Subject: Re: LAND
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:08 12/01/07 ()
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Two things. Only the peninsula was named Siera Leoa. Upline was upline. Where its boundaries were God only knows.
And secondly for Up country to develop Govt should have the locals hold the so call big guys to account for not developing their areas but come elections they are preying on the people.
Look at Kailahun Court Baray could John Ben and Karimu not help make the town a better place with all the money they have stolen?
Could Abbas Bundu not develop his home town? And countless others.
As soon as they get the big house in Freetown their villages and town are neglected.
Subject: Re: LAND
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 15:21:21 12/01/07 ()
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Bra Knice, U Nar formidable professor of colonial and post-colonial history. If I were writing a term paper on Salone history, I would have referenced your first 2 paragraphs for use as primary sources.
Subject: me 2 4 d 1st 2 paragraph, I say to you, KKNICE, congrats
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 16:45:30 12/01/07 ()
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For the rest of your analysis, however, I sensed that money do speak and it speaks louder and more forceful than any cultural barrier that may exist pertaining to land dsistribution. Each locality may enact laws of their own on land sales, but the Salone that I know is one in which a Temne, a Mende, a Creole, a Limba or anyone with the right price can acquire land anywhere in Salone regardless of an archaic law or not. This is the beauty of allowing the market to take it cause and, THAT, indeed exist in Salone.
Subject: Re: me 2 4 d 1st 2 paragraph, I say to you, KKNICE, congrats
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 19:21:00 12/01/07 ()
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LOggy, I love your ability to cut and paste the most interesting pictures I have seen on Salone forums
Subject: BRA E, FOR ALL YOU DO, YOU......
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 20:02:51 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
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Subject: Re: BRA E, FOR ALL YOU DO, YOU......
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 22:58:24 12/01/07 ()
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Message:
Tenki, King Loggy.
You are among the
batch of brothers
I have known
via cyber since
the days of
Africa Online.
Peace out, Bra Loggy.
By the way, I was
hoping you will
hook me up
with a Temne
gial.
Subject: ONE TEMNE GIAL 4 U BRA E
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 23:18:15 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
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Subject: Re: ONE TEMNE GIAL 4 U BRA E
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 06:37:58 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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Message:
Na SLPP beauty, she would not date or fancy any APC thug. She promised me that.
Subject: Re: ONE TEMNE GIAL 4 U BRA E
From: nar joke bo
To: All
Date Posted: 20:58:17 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: abu @ aol .com
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Message:
NOR SLPP NOR GET DA KINE FINE DAE, BRA TEL AM SAY E FINE , ARE DON GET ME YONE. ARE PROUD FOR WE SALEONE PIKIN. PLEASE MY ABOVE STATEMENT WAS JUST A JOKE. I AM PROUD OF MY SIERRA LEONEAN CHILD.
Subject: Re: ONE TEMNE GIAL 4 U BRA E
From: bo nar joke
To: All
Date Posted: 21:11:11 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: abu@ aol .com.
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Message:
NOR SLPP NOR GET DA KINE FINE DAE.TELL AM SAY E FINE EN WE PROUD OF AM.ARE DON GET ME YONE. I AM PROUD OF OUR SIERRA LEONE DAUGHTER. I HOPE AND PRAY THAT ALLAH WILL PROTECT AND DIRECT HER IN ALL HER DOINGS. MY ABOVE STATEMENT WAS JUST A JOKE.
Subject: Re: ONE TEMNE GIAL 4 U BRA E
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 04:32:16 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
King Loggy,
Una nor form wit da woman dae O. Nar mi real Cozin. Nar mi late Uncle Mamud Sesay en Kadi Sesay ihn Pikin.
Enviable, if I kiatch you...
Subject: Re: ONE TEMNE GIAL 4 U BRA E
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 08:21:04 12/02/07 ()
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Message:
If I get her, u will be my komanneh for lyfe.
Subject: Re: ONE TEMNE GIAL 4 U BRA E
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 12:29:10 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Ee dae nar Atlanta. Ar nor lek you party but You...You okay nar me books Pa Kohmaneh!
Subject: Re: ONE TEMNE GIAL 4 U BRA E
From: AREA MAN
To: All
Date Posted: 00:07:33 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Orlangba, wan tay somper me
u make ar fagnance. Dee baby nor bad oh
Subject: Re: ONE TEMNE GIAL 4 U BRA E
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:25:53 12/02/07 ()
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Message:
Looking at the pictures, you almost see a wry smile like she knows she is been talked about..
Mannnnnnnnnnnn. she fine...and radiant...
We are blessed in salone...
See we natural resources..?
Subject: Re: me 2 4 d 1st 2 paragraph, I say to you, KKNICE, congrats
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 16:49:23 12/01/07 ()
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Message:
Those graphics, pictures and cartoons! Hail to the King!
Your Subject
Fen.
Subject: THANK YOU MY SUBJECT, THANK YOU!
From: king loggy
To: All
Date Posted: 17:32:18 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
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Subject: Re: SHOW OFF
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 21:43:28 12/01/07 ()
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Just had to throw that one in bra? Happy weekend.
Subject: FAME AT LAST!
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 22:47:45 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
To be showered with admiration from Da Bra himself and da kaiba from Masiaka, this is my very own fifteen minute of fame.
Subject: Bambay Lans Kamara's passing
From: Nar Me
To: All
Date Posted: 14:10:53 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: thenewsletter@hotmail.com
Entered From: amontsouris-152-1-14-104.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr at 82.123.88.104
Message:
Dear Forumites,
I do not know Bambay but I just saw this on another forum. Is it true?
Subject: Re: Bambay Lans Kamara's passing
From: Jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 16:55:11 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: epa@gmail.com
Entered From: c-24-1-160-174.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 24.1.160.174
Message:
Really? I don't him but like his every post on this forum.That would be a big loss. He brings so much entertainment to the forum. MSRIP
Subject: Re: Bambay Lans Kamara's passing
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 17:42:13 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I don't believe it. I think someone is trying to be funny in a very unfunny way. I saw the link and there was a smiley face with the announcement.
Anyway, Bambay is well known in California. There would have been orbituaries from the West Coast by now. I hope Bambay is busy studying for his Nursing degree and happily Youtubing! My fingers are crossed.
Subject: Re: Bambay Lans Kamara's passing
From: Salone man living in Atlanta
To: All
Date Posted: 20:25:40 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
For all you know it could Bambay behind it. For the past 6 months I have been checking the site he comes up with of the wall stuff that make me laugh. Anyway I hope it's not true but if it's may his soul rest in peace.
Subject: ANOTHER J S MOMOH IN STATE HOUSE
From: WIDE MOUTH
To: All
Date Posted: 13:03:40 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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MR PRESIDENT,PLEASE DELEGATE POWER TO YOUR INSPECTOR GENERAL, YOU ARE A PRESIDENT OF A NATION,NOT A TRIBAL HEAD OR A SECTIONAL CHIEF.WE ALSO HAVE DATA ABOUT YOUR WOMEN ALL OVER THE U.S.A.NAMELY, ATLANTA,MARYLAND,VIRGINIA,CALIFONIA,NEW JERSEY AND OHIO.MR PRESIDENT WE HAVE THE NAMES OF ALL YOUR LADIES,PLEASE PAY ATTENTION ON REBUILDING THE NATION,AND STOP BELITTLE YOURSELF.
Subject: Re: ANOTHER J S MOMOH IN STATE HOUSE
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:19:24 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: pcd388071.netvigator.com at 203.218.178.71
Message:
Bid Mouth,
I can't tell you how disappointed I am in the new president. I assessed him from his first move and I think that he is not the one we should be hoping to redeem SL from chronic and abject poverty.
We will still remain in the bottom of the human development ladder by the end of his term.
I have lost total confidence in the Man. Here is why:
SL is a country with 5M people we should treat each and every S/Leonean as a S/Leonean and not on tribal lines. English language should be our official language and we should stress on that to unite our people and pay more attention to the development of the country as a whole.
But as soon as this guy started dividing the country on tribal lines all hopes were lost.
Subject: Re: ANOTHER J S MOMOH IN STATE HOUSE
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 15:15:14 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 62.189.241.185
Message:
GET A LIFE MATE !!!!!
Subject: Re: ANOTHER J S MOMOH IN STATE HOUSE
From: Man way nor get worry
To: All
Date Posted: 13:24:05 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: codfodnus@aol.com
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Message:
ARE YOU JELEOUSE? WE DO NOT WANT TO KNOW ABOUT ALL YOUR TRASH. YOU GUYS HAVE REALY LOST THOUGHT. PRESO IS THE PEOPLE'S MAN. BY THE WAY FREE TOWN WILL BE LIGHT BY DECEMBER 20. HE AND HIS DYNAMIC TEAM ARE DOING IN LESS THAN THREE MONTHS WHAT YOU GUYS FAIL TO DO FOR ELEVEN YEARS. DON'T WORRY, MORE GOOD NEWS WILL BE COMING. THE EMEGENCY HOSPITALS WILL BE READY TO ADMIT YOU GUYS. EVERY GOOD NEWS THAT COME FROM HOME MAKE YOU GUYS GET SICK. PLEASE ENTERTAIN US WITH MORE TRASH.
YOU GUYS ARE NOW COMEDIANS
Subject: Re: ANOTHER J S MOMOH IN STATE HOUSE
From: Koboko
To: All
Date Posted: 04:55:10 12/02/07 ()
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Message:
we need light but that is not the only immediate problem we are facing. we also need clean drinking water which is just as important as light if not more.
Subject: THE ATTTENTION OF KABS
From: MODERATOR
To: All
Date Posted: 11:07:34 12/01/07 ()
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Message:
Please contact the moderator for urgent matters.
Subject: Re: THE ATTTENTION OF KABS
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 11:56:04 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..
Why here?
You cant contact kabs on his personals..?
What about phone..? 1800 APCPENPUSHER
OR email?
kabbskanu@aol.com or kabbskanu@aol.com, or kabbiekanu@yahoo.com.
Why you lek for facin yousef na we forum so Mr MODERATOR?
Ok ok.. slow satiday...man dey fen plaba small bit.
I hope cocorioko does not have rules against helping the moderator, pointing him in the right direction, or giving him assitance in locating a fellow forumite.
Subject: Re: THE ATTTENTION OF KABS
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 16:33:26 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Candido,
You too lek provoke bizness.
As soon as you set the new record for Forum ban, we dae gee you trophy.
Seriously though, your jibes at Kabs and the moderator are classic. I only hope that they have a sense of humour about this and are laughing as heartily as I am. Catch you on a thread later bro.
Subject: Re: THE ATTTENTION OF KABS
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:17:57 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
They sometimes do (re: sense of rumor)...
But only when its raining manna in somerset..
Or when the collection plate kin full from last weeks sermon...
But yeah... i will soon set the record for most ban..
I cant help it mate..
As Bill Maher would say.. "What do you expect stupid? The show been called politically incorrect does not give them a clue?"
Well i cant not be candid, can i?
Subject: Re: THE ATTTENTION OF KABS
From: MODERATOR
To: All
Date Posted: 13:30:11 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Ok Sir/Ma! I'm returning to my hole. Cheers!
/Moderator
Subject: CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
From: Joseph Gbanyawai
To: All
Date Posted: 10:53:51 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: JoeG@hotmail.com
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Message:
To my fellow Sierra Leoneans. Are we forgetting so soon what we went through those ten odd years of an unprovoked war? Some of us saw everything,while others were away. Why all these "Pull Him Down" Syndrome. Why can't we all work together for the common good of our beloved country. The elections are over and we now have a new president. It is unfortunate that people have been using this forum to attack each other. This is very wrong. We are all Sierra Leoneans. I believe we should critize positively, as no one is perfect. Why all these personal attacks? This is not a good example for our children. I have the greatest respect for Rev. Kanu. Though, I haven't meet him yet. Please, my fellow Sierra Leoneans let us stop this "PHD". Thanks
Subject: Re: CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
From: Sempu Jay
To: All
Date Posted: 12:26:11 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: sempuj2007@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-163-112-230.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.163.112.230
Message:
Moderator, why did you delete my postings? Am still asking Mr Big Shot to pay my sister's $620. He is the one lobbying to get an appointment under the new administration of the APC. Please pay up or else President EBK will know about this issue.
Reading through your past record we do not need people like you to serve in the new administration.
You know yourself Mr Big Shot so act fast.
Sempujay
Subject: Re: CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
From: MODERATOR
To: All
Date Posted: 13:43:49 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
This seems like a personal issue between two people which can be resolved through some other media.
I believe, the top of this page reads, "THIS COCORIOKO FORUM has been set up to provide Sierra Leoneans with a vehicle through which they can express their views about matters affecting their country."
Cheers!
/Moderator
Subject: Re: CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
From: Nar Me
To: All
Date Posted: 11:25:53 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Thank you Joseph Gbanyawai.
Subject: Re: CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM
From: Nar Me
To: All
Date Posted: 11:03:27 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: thenewsletter@hotmail.com
Entered From: amontsouris-152-1-14-104.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr at 82.123.88.104
Message:
Thank you Joseph Gbanyawai.
Subject: MISTER, PLEASE PAY UP
From: Sempu J.
To: All
Date Posted: 10:43:15 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: sempuj@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 209.212.21.24
Message:
The poor woman is still crying for her $620 that a so- called APC North America branch senior executive owed her. Mr. Big shot, please pay up. This is very unfair for a Sierra Leonean to treat his fellow like that. The poor woman wired this money for this so-called senior APC executive when he was in Freetown. Why can't he pay now? instead he just ignored the poor lady as if nothing is wrong. Mr. so called Senior V.P. of a bank, please pay up. It is very shameful for people to be lobbying for appointment in the new administration when they can't pay small amount of $620. Do unto others as you would like them to unto you. Please, please Mr. APC senior executive, pay this poor woman. Her husband is in Freetown. She is alone to pay her bills. You know yourself, Mister. Please pay up or else .......
Subject: Re: MISTER, PLEASE PAY UP
From: Susan
To: All
Date Posted: 11:19:32 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: suzzysaf@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: pool-71-163-112-230.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.163.112.230
Message:
This is very unacceptable. How can you do this? With all your intelligence and personality you claim to have. Our party do not encourage people who owes money and do not pay back. Please, this is a matter that should have been settled long since. Do us a favor and pay this money instanta. Lonta. Nor gee we party bad name.
We do not want such people to hold responsible positions. Pres. EBK over to you sir.
Susan
Subject: Re: MISTER, PLEASE PAY UP
From: Munda
To: All
Date Posted: 10:55:57 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: MundaJ@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 209.212.21.24
Message:
Please, Mister big shot, pay the poor woman. Thanks
Subject: READ THIS
From: Yongawo
To: All
Date Posted: 10:42:57 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: yonga@aol.com
Entered From: host86-146-130-39.range86-146.btcentralplus.com at 86.146.130.39
Message:
Sierra Leone to press ahead with EU trade deal
20 hours ago
FREETOWN (AFP) � Sierra Leone will press ahead to sign accords to liberalise trade with the European Union that have been heavily criticised by anti-poverty lobby groups, a minister said on Friday.
Deputy Finance Minister Richard Conteh said Sierra Leone would sign the Economic Partnership Agreement (EPA) that will replace preferential tariff agreements due to expire this year, because it cannot afford to be left behind.
"The southern (African) countries have almost signed the EPA with west Africa waiting. This has been considered as a big blow," Conteh told a symposium organised by anti-poverty activists.
The European Commission this week announced that Botswana, Lesotho, Swaziland and Mozambique have initialled an interim EPA.
The current trade deals giving preferential market access to the African nations have to be replaced by the end of the year because the World Trade Organisation (WTO) has ruled they are illegal.
West African regional bloc ECOWAS has however urged its members against signing EPA in the wake of the EU-Africa summit in Lisbon next month.
Conteh said the government of the world's second most impoverished nation "has taken a firm stance" on the issue.
But anti-poverty activists suggest that the EPA which requires African, Caribbean and Pacific (ACP) countries to open up their markets to EU products in exchange for preferential access to the EU market, would compromise Sierra Leone's efforts to rebuild after a decade of a devastating war.
"The agreement with the EU will grant EU companies substantially free duty and tax access to the Sierra Leone market," said Christine Thomas of Sierra Leone's Chamber of Commerce.
"It may increase the dependency of the government on donor funding and lead to increase in direct income taxes on the hardpressed taxpayer and loss of the approximately 60 percent of ... tax revenue derived from import duties," she added.
Closure of firms and loss of jobs were a likely consequence, she said.
Abu Brima, director of the Network Movement for Justice and Development (NMJD), said opening up to EU imports could mean that regional "countries exporting among themselves would risk losing their market to the European exporters".
"The amount of diverted trade in the case of ECOWAS will be in billions of dollars," he said.
Subject: born in a household with different party aspirations
From: eh boo
To: All
Date Posted: 10:24:19 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: ehbooo@msn.com
Entered From: c-71-224-131-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 71.224.131.184
Message:
How do you do if support apc but you are bon in a husehold that is strong slpp supporters? one always has the fear of been marginalized from ones family. you end up saying forget politics then. been a democrat born in a republican household also has its problems. but been a apc in a slpp household could be like a blood in a crip household. what are your thoughts? should the individual just tell his parents cousins and friends? a friend of mine told me this he was in this predicament and he knew others the other party too having the same problems but scared to come out. .
Subject: Re: born in a household with different party aspirations
From: SGK
To: All
Date Posted: 11:45:05 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 91.84.136.50
Message:
Firstly, you should try to convince them that the country's interest is paramount than any other party.
I don't support the idea of being loyal to a party. Parties' policies change with leaders.
If you are absolutely convinced that your chosen party is better in delivering the goods to the country than the other parties, then vote for it. Sometimes, we have to do things different from our parents. This is not disrespecting them. Their time have gone by and we should always do certain things taking into consideration the circumstances at that particular point in time.
I supported the A.P.C because i think they stand a chance of improving the country under the leadership of E.B.K. I wouldn't have voted for them if it was under the leadership of papa Sheki say, or E.B.K is from the same tribe and region as my parents. Sometimes we have to be more patriotic than being loyal to individuals.
In the west, for example people die for their countries and not for their parties. Why can't we learn that good aspect from them. We need to be hypermetropic(see beyond our noses). One can understand why our parents look at situations differently. Though they have done a lot of good things for us but one cannot dismiss the fact that they also made a lot of errors. It is incumbent on us either to correct or not to repeat their mistakes.
My advice to you my brother go along with your instinct and vision, or else you would always feel guilty for the rest of your life for letting your country and people down.
Subject: A TRIBAL Government Cannot Serve A NATIONAL Function
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 08:49:34 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
The rumors about the incoming Press Secretary to President Ernest Koroma are as wild as a march hare. Names and personalities have been tossed around with a frequency that borders on a stir within the rumor mill. The Ministry of Information needs to do us a favor by dismissing these fast-spreading heresies before they gain further currency. When citizens make it their business to discuss the business of government with the zeal shown over the President's Press Secretary, one can safely say that civic interest in the affairs of Government is on the rise. In return, Government must satisfy the thirst of its citizenry by opening the channels of information between elected leaders and their people. If his political newness to State House justified the delays that marked the naming of a cabinet after the presidential elections, Ernest Koroma scarcely has reason for failing to dismiss rumors about the appointment of a Press Secretary.
As an ardent employer of regional and tribal friends, the President should be reminded that who ever assumes the responsibilities of Press Secretary must be well-schooled in writing for a series of occasions and audiences. Few stupidities can be more embarrassing than an imprecisely written press release from the official communicator of presidential messages. The most productive government is one that taps qualitative employees who are kept effective by a strict adherence to diligence. Mediocrity can only be tolerated in the midst of scarcity. If the President casts his eyes beyond the coterie of tribal friends, a richer list of Press Secretaries can be found without waiting till Judgement Day! Vaulting over tribal friends to employ qualified personnel is a fairly difficult thing to do in Africa. However, we must face reality if the shrill rhetoric about "The Dawn of a New Era" is to become a realizable dream. Using state power to infuse integrity into qualified employees can make a new era more reachable than the wholesale promotion of bungling tribal friends. Once chosen on the basis of tribal consanguinity, a tribal government cannot successfully carry out the task of satisfying NATIONAL needs.
Subject: Re: A TRIBAL Government Cannot Serve A NATIONAL Function
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 23:05:02 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
Entered From: pcd388071.netvigator.com at 203.218.178.71
Message:
I 100% agrees with your postings it is one of the bests so far. Please keep it up.
Subject: Re: A TRIBAL Government Cannot Serve A NATIONAL Function
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
To: All
Date Posted: 21:34:09 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Ernest Koroma scarcely has reason for failing to dismiss rumors about the appointment of a Press Secretary.
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Bra E I cannot understand the rationale behind the above quoted phrase. I see no reason why the President should "AFFIRMATIVELY" move to address what at the president time is mere speculation, as to who or who may not be HIS CHOSEN Press Secretary. You would agree with me that the choice of who may speak to the Press on behalf of the President, has to be someone of HIS OWN CHOOSING. The position of Press Secretary is one so intertwined with the presidency, that it is important that who ever is chosen, is someone who is trusted by the president in advocating his position on issues. In short the President is not, and should be under no mandate to reveal who his choice is for any position where he has to exercise that discretion, in a premature manner. Rather he must be given the time it takes to think through any such apointment.
However, what I find disturbing is the trend of screaming Tribalism from the rafters and your projection into its vortex as its main proponent and drum major. I believe that you attempted to use the Presidents Silence on the issue of who would become his press secretary as a cruel segue into another episode of finger pointing and name calling. From my conversations with you, I do believe that this MO is beneath you. One thing about you that I have come to understand is that you have an incredible analytical mind set which I admire and appreciate, however your tendency to lead the RAH RAH crowd takes away from your lustre.
If the government of ernest Koroma takes on a tribal appointment policy, I will be the first to raise my voice in Protest. So far I do not see that to be the case. I think that as a critical thinker and a strong nationalsit who ses a greater sierra leone rather than its political microcosms, it behooves you to refrain from crying wolf when there is none.
Stay true to sierra leone brother like you have always been.
Subject: Re: A TRIBAL Government Cannot Serve A NATIONAL Function
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 23:08:13 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Ow dee bodi,
Alphaa Alieu.
I am simply
disappointed at
the tribal
path Koroma
has taken.
I just cannot
tell why
every appointment he
makes has to come
from the North.
He is supposed to be
the President of
Sierra Leone
and leader of the
new era we desperately crave.
So far, his choice
of employees
does not point
to a man that
wants to unite
EVERY constituency
behind him. He is making
it seem like there was
no need for a change
of government.
Stay blesse, Alphaa Alieu.
We may never see eye to eye
on this topic.
Subject: Re: A TRIBAL Government Cannot Serve A NATIONAL Function
From: fact
To: All
Date Posted: 00:53:16 12/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
So yu want di press secretary for bi mende man? Yu crase or wetin?
Subject: Re: A TRIBAL Government Cannot Serve A NATIONAL Function
From: Knice
To: All
Date Posted: 14:49:05 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Keep up the good work. Your detractors may be new to Sierra Leone forums. Long timers remember that you were equally tough on the Kabbah SLPP administration. I have come to respect you as always been motivated by Sierra Leone, and Sierra Leone alone. DON'T HIDE YOUR LAMP UNDER A BED.
Subject: Re: A TRIBAL Government Cannot Serve A NATIONAL Function
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 17:28:37 12/01/07 ()
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Message:
DON'T HIDE YOUR LAMP UNDER A BED----KNICE
The Fire Dept will thank you for that sanguine advice.
KNICE, there's no two ways about it. Bra Enviable's distribe is full of egregious calumnies against the Prezzy. This lazy accusation of tribalism by SLPPers reminds me of those glass casings in public buildings with the direction: IN CASE OF FIRE, BREAK GLASS! Of late SLPPers are busy breaking glass and crying TRIBALISM!
I am confident that the President will correct the regional tilt of his government and ensure a fairer distribution of posts. However, to paint him as an "ardent" and unreformed tribalist is really to pummel him below the belt; it is a nut basher that simply roils partisan waters. What we need now is a balm on tribal wounds. As Candido would say...
Anyhow!
Subject: Re: A TRIBAL Government Cannot Serve A NATIONAL Function
From: Kawusu
To: All
Date Posted: 11:36:22 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
BRA ENVIABLE: �If his political newness to State House justified the delays that marked the naming of a cabinet after the presidential elections��
RESPONSE: The president and his men had to comb the entire country and the diaspora for suitably qualified Sierra Leoneans who can speak Themne and Limba flawlessly. It takes time do that.
BRA ENVIABLE: �As an ardent employer of regional and tribal friends, the President should be reminded that who ever assumes the responsibilities of Press Secretary must be well-schooled in writing for a series of occasions and audiences��
RESPONSE: You have no authority in educating our president about the qualifications and functions of a Press Secretary. You are a brilliant writer but
you are not qualified for this position because you are a Mende/Kissi man from Kailahun, and according to you, �you suck SLPP nar bobi.� Leave our president alone to employ a candidate with whom he can articulate in Themne or Limba.
BRA ENVIABLE: "If the President casts his eyes beyond the coterie of tribal friends, a richer list of Press Secretaries can be found without waiting till judgement day..."
RESPONSE: Again, my friend, stop preaching to the president. Do you find it difficult to understand that the APC does not want a Presidential Press Secretary that does not hail from the North? The president can still assemble an impressive list of Press Secretaries solely from the North. Do you have a problem with that?
Subject: Re: A TRIBAL Government Cannot Serve A NATIONAL Function
From: Man way nor get worry
To: All
Date Posted: 13:11:25 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: codfodnus@aol.com
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Message:
SLPPers, the tribal card that you are playing does not work for you. You guys are so blinded that you are still playing it. I promise you that if you do not change you attitude and your tribalistic addictions, you will lost the 2017 general election. I said 2017 election because I know the President will finish his two terms in office, sure he the people's man, and he is going to work for them. Sorry haters, some of you guys will be dead by then, and some of you will be too old to perform any political activity. Now I see why some of you guys are so frustrated. Nar for bear ya, na so God say.
Subject: Re: A TRIBAL Government Cannot Serve A NATIONAL Function
From: Henry Thomas Peterson
To: All
Date Posted: 09:58:52 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
This brother called Bra Enviable is the bomb. Right message, beautiful expressions and scholarly style of saying what he says. That is my own Foreign Minister right there in Bra Enviable.
Subject: Re: A TRIBAL Government Cannot Serve A NATIONAL Function
From: Steve
To: All
Date Posted: 10:09:44 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Absolutely. I agree with you. Bra Enviable, al I can says is "Well Spoken". Your articulation cant be better put. Bra Enviable, I am hoping that Oga kabs will not delink you for been so staright forward and outspoken.
Subject: Dollar�s Days Are Numbered, Says Historical Record
From: NEWS
To: All
Date Posted: 08:19:43 12/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Will the American dollar last? The past of paper currencies is a list of failures: Every fiat currency in history has ended essentially worthless.
History is littered with the wrecks of paper money adventures. In hundreds of cases, in all lands, at all times, the story has been the same: loss of confidence in and eroding value of fiat currencies. Paper money does not work; the temptation of the printing press is too great. Emperors, kings, presidents, prime ministers and central bankers have not been able to resist the temptation: When faced with economic problems or overspending, they have all chosen to create the money needed to pay bills or fight wars.
The world�s first known experiment with fiat money (paper money not backed by tangible assets like silver or gold) was in 10th-century China. At first successful, it was abandoned a few hundred years later because it, like all the paper currencies that followed, was found to be too susceptible to inflation. But, to the Chinese�s credit, a few hundred years is actually pretty successful as far as paper money goes.
By 1200, the Chinese had forgotten this earlier failure and launched another paper money scheme, this time under Kublai Khan. Marco Polo was so impressed, he reported that Kublai Khan �had the secret of alchemy in perfection� and that he �causes each year to be made such a vast quantity of money that it must equal in quantity all the treasure of the world.� But Marco Polo visited Kahn�s empire during a time that American historian Alexander Del Mar called �the most brilliant period in the history of China��which, it turns out, was just before its collapse. �Kublai Khan entered upon a series of internal improvements and civil reforms, which raised the country he had conquered to the highest rank of civilization, power and progress. � Population and trade had greatly increased, but the emissions of paper notes outran both, and the inevitable consequence was depreciation. � Excessive and too rapid augmentation of the currency resulted in the entire subversion of the old order of society. The best families in the empire were ruined� (Bullion Vault, October 27; emphasis ours).
Fiat currency adventures in Europe also have a history of painful failures. For hundreds of years, the Roman Empire reigned, increasing in power and influence. Even when Nero decided to start debasing the currency by taking the silver out of the coins, Rome prospered for a while. However, as Rome decayed, successive emperors continued to remove the silver content of the denarius to pay the bills. At the beginning of the first century, the denarius was essentially pure silver. By the time of Nero, in a.d. 54, the silver content of the denarius had slipped to 94 percent; by a.d. 68, it had fallen to 81 percent; by a.d. 218, only 43 percent was silver. Philip in a.d. 244 had the silver content reduced to 0.5 percent. At the time of Rome�s fall, silver content of the denarius was 0.02 percent and pretty much everyone was refusing to accept it as payment for anything (LewRockwell.com, November 4).
But central banks and governments are poor students of history.
During the 1700s, France stands out as a paper-currency basket case. John Law first established a paper currency in France in 1716. Backed by King Louis xv, who declared all taxes had to be paid with paper dollars, it gained wide acceptance�more so than coinage, in fact. But as with all paper currencies, excessive printing, additional moneymaking schemes (the Mississippi bubble), and fraud eventually blew up the system, wiping out many people�s investments and savings.
During the late 18th century, a new French government again adopted fiat currency, which was called the �assignats.� But again, money-creating destroyed it: By 1795 inflation had reached 13,000 percent. Napoleon replaced the assignat with the gold franc, inflation subsided, and a century of relative economic stability resulted. In the 1930s, the French again adopted a paper franc. In 12 years, its currency lost 99 percent of its value.
Weimar Germany is another example of a failed currency. At the end of World War i, Germany decided to print the money needed to pay the debts it owed foreign nations. By the time the government was done printing money, the currency had been so debased that postage stamps cost millions of Deutsche marks.
In 1932, before adopting a paper currency, Argentina was the eighth-largest economy in the world. Since abolishing their precious metal-backed currency, Argentineans have been plagued with continual currency inflation�even hyperinflation reminiscent of Weimar Germany. The latest bout was in 2001, when the peso lost 75 percent of its value in one year.
Each couple of years it seems like another nation�s fiat currency falls apart. In 1992, Finland, Italy, Norway and other European countries suffered when their currencies devalued. In 1994, it was the Mexican peso �tequila hangover� crisis, which spread through several Latin American nations, including Brazil, Venezuela and Argentina. 1997 was the year of the �Asian flu� contagion, which started with the Thai baht and then within days spread to Malaysia, the Philippines, Indonesia, Hong Kong and South Korea. The currency collapses associated with �bahtulism� were still destabilizing currencies in 1999. 1998 saw the Russian ruble fall apart and experience massive devaluations. February 2001, the Turkish lira lost 40 percent of its value in one day.
To attempt to chronicle the massive currency devaluations that are endemic to many African nations would require stacks of paper, but Zimbabwe is too clear cut of an example to pass up. Formerly known as Rhodesia, Zimbabwe was one of the wealthiest countries in Africa. In fact, at the time of its independence in 1980, the Zimbabwe dollar was worth more than the U.S. dollar. Then along came President Robert Mugabe, who decided to seize virtually all property owned by white people to give to black people. The upheaval within society caused an economic collapse. With a non-functioning economy and falling tax revenues, Mugabe decided to just print up the money needed to pay the bills, destroying Zimbabwe�s currency and any of his people�s savings in the process. As of May 2006, it cost $416 Zimbabwe dollars to purchase a single two-ply square of toilet paper, while a whole roll cost $145,750.
Why should we think America is somehow special and immune to currency crisis? In fact, go back and study history: In addition to the fact that the U.S. dollar has lost 92 percent of its purchasing power since 1913, and 41 percent in the 1934 revaluation, there have been times when the dollar lost even more value. Maybe you have heard the expression �not worth a Continental.� That expression developed in regards to America�s paper money during the Revolutionary War era (not Ford�s Lincoln Continental luxury vehicle). The U.S. government again tried a paper currency experiment during the Civil War. The Legal Tender Act of 1862 allowed the Lincoln administration to issue paper money, backed by nothing but the government�s decree that it be accepted for trade. The paper money lost value so quickly that the practice of fiat currency in America fell out of favor until the Federal Reserve System was put in place in 1913. Paper money in the South by the end of the Civil War was worth even less.
The sad part is that when governments resort to mass currency creation, it is the common person�s savings that get destroyed. The interest earned in savings accounts never keeps up with mass-printing induced inflation.
For the U.S. dollar, its final link to a hard, tangible asset was severed 35 years ago. Today, the majority of dollars are little more than bits of electronic information zooming between banks and corporations that people don�t even see, and that they need computers with super calculators to keep track of. How much confidence is left in the inflated U.S. dollar�a dollar whose value remains high not for any tangible reason, but only because so far America�s trade partners are still willing to accept it?
In Weimar Germany, when the mark was inflated into practical worthlessness, at least the German people were left with tinder. When the dollar collapses and no one wants it, most of it will probably just be deleted. �
Subject: Sierra Leone press goes cuckoo
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 05:13:46 12/01/07 ()
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You don't know who to trust anymore. Patriotic Vanguard keeps reporting a fake appointment of Shekito Tarawallie as State House Press Secretary, though I have called and confirmed that the job has not been offered to Shekito. Now, you read this report by Sylvia Blyden and tell me where objective journalism has gone ? We hear the views of the SLPP and JJ Saffa but from Christiana Thorpe..Nothing. And the story ends with an under-The-Belt attack on her desertion of the nunery.What is going wrong with our press ?
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Christiana Thorpe breaks her Silence in Sierra Leone
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The National Election Commission on Thursday 29th November convened a press conference at their Wellington Estate Secretariat to give a summary Statistics of the invalidated September 2007 presidential run-off results by polling stations throughout the country.
According to the freshly released figures, President Ernest Bai Koroma won the Run-off elections by approximately 20,000 votes. The SLPP has however stated that the figures released which gave the 20,000 lead to the APC Leader were false. The SLPP's Secretary General J.J. Saffa referred to the released figures as having been "cooked-up" months after the elections were over. "Those figures are faked" he lambasted to journalists shortly after Thorpe's own press conference.
Earlier, in her address, the Chairperson of the Commission, Dr. Christiana Thorpe stated that she wants the public to know the difference between invalid votes and why a station is invalidated. She said when a station is invalidated it means that all votes in that particular station are annulled because they are above the number of registered voters.
She handed a print out of the 477 stations invalidated to all present which she said would make clear to the general public for their satisfaction. She said she was doing that to pave the way in moving forward for preparations of the forth coming Local Council elections in 2008.
In the same conference, Dr. Thorpe touched on post-elections staff re-organisation which she said is in accordance with the powers conferred upon the Commission under section 33 of the constitution of Sierra Leone 1991, section 10 of the National Electoral Commission Act 2002 and rules 1.1 (a) of NEC Standing order B: Staff rules and Regulations.
She disclosed that in that regard, they have therefore undertaken a complete review of all posts within the NEC during the annual evaluation of the performance of all categories of permanent and ad hoc staff. This she went on saw permanent members retained, promoted, demoted, relieved of their duties, transferred or retired. On the basis of an evaluation of good performance, some ad hoc staff members were absorbed into permanent status.
The following were the changes made: 13 staff promoted, 5 demoted, 15 adhoc staff promoted and absorbed, 4 staff were relieved of their duties and 1 was retired due to old age.
However, the SLPP has accused the process of being a "sanitisation" of the Electoral process of all persons deemed to be even slightly not seeking the interests of the ruling All People's Congress.
"Dr. Thorpe is simply cleaning up the Elections Office of all patriotic citizens who might stand in the way of her planned rigging of the upcoming 2008 Local Government elections," J.J. Saffa posited adding that "only Mendes from the South East have been removed or demoted by Christiana Thorpe."
In a below-the-belt snipe referencing Thorpe's decision to abandon the Catholic nunnery for life in the real world, J.J. Saffa asked local media houses, "But what do you expect from a woman who even reneged on her promise to God and turned her back on her marriage to Jesus?"
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone press goes cuckoo
From: Mensa
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Date Posted: 11:15:22 12/01/07 ()
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Coming from the Secretary General of a party mercilessly riddled by a thundering election defeat, J. J. Saffa's rabid fury is quite understandable. If his party couldn't roar when it matters, then it's a folly for him to even entertain the thought of generating a hurricane when the horse has already bolted! Let him curse, scream and twitch like a maimed insect...as far as the APC is concerned, it's nothing but a storm in a teacup!
Point is: Had Christiana Thorpe failed to act promptly, firmly and decisively when voting irregularities where clearly detected, then she would have disqualified herself as the right person for the job....timid at best, a punctured personality at worse!
Question is: If only he had the country at heart, what would have been Sour Saffa's alternative handling of the situation under the circumstances? .....A third round of voting? Come on! The SLPP's over-zealousness after the shocking first round defeat was to riskily dive headlong into a treacherous pool of ballot rigging! They eventually paid the price for it! Who is to foot the blame!
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone press goes cuckoo
From: fact
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Date Posted: 02:41:56 12/02/07 ()
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I like your poetic language. Point is the slpp went into a frenzy of vote-rigging and outright banning of apc camapigning and representation in slpp strongholds after the first round's serious beating from the apc. this unleashed the fury of neutral observers. But the main issue is that the slpp had lost the support of most sierra leoneans.
Subject: BLOOD DIAMOND-MY REVIEW; WHAT IS YOUR TAKE?
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 02:54:02 12/01/07 ()
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I went to the theatre with a lot of expectations from this film especially when Salone is concerned.The idea of letting the world know about what is behind conflict diamonds is really a sound one though it should not have come from a westerner.The cinematography and the visuals are really state-of-the-art and leave the viewer with the wow feeling.
On the flipside Blood Diamond in spite of the good performances, etc. has its own share of problems:
1) To start with, the scr1pt was seriously flawed-seems the writer was confused on what to do. On one hand he tried to highlight Africa�s problems by picking on the Sierra Leone civil war which he had little knowledge about. There is a wide credibility gap on the biased way he tried to portray the mende tribe of Sierra Leone as the sole victims of the war. Whosoever gave him the information has misled him so much that he failed to mention the other tribes who equally suffered over the period. One can also notice that he was trying to give the misleading impression that Sierra Leone was inhabited by just one tribe during the war which is an insult to most Sierra Leoneans!
On the other hand the writer tried to highlight the commonest source of conflicts in Africa i.e diamonds which can be a euphemism for greed and ignorance. But sadly this is not so! According to reliable sources the conflict in Sierra Leone was not about diamonds but about a small group trying to impose its will on the mainstream nationalists. The same is also true for Congo, Rwanda and Liberia. Foreign interference is also playing the worst key role in African conflicts.
On the whole the writer should done some real research so as to get his facts right.
2) The documentary touch did not help either because everything seemed made-up and has not reflected a single real incident in the Sierra Leone war. The director tried very hard to garner sympathy for the mende tribe a move which baffled most of those I have discussed the movie with.
3) The director it seems tried to campaign against diamonds from conflict zones but hasn�t done it so well because he has not intended to focus on problem.
From my viewpoint the saving grace of the movie was the action which has been cleverly placed in sequences so as to prevent the audience from losing focus. Everyone I have talked to told me just one thing: �The movie is about the returns from African diamonds being used to fuel conflicts�. So what?
Subject: Re: BLOOD DIAMOND-MY REVIEW; WHAT IS YOUR TAKE?
From: Watasai Stone
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Date Posted: 10:22:43 12/03/07 ()
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You seem to be jelous of the Mende tribe. If that was the course the director decided to take with the story whats the problem???
Subject: Re: BLOOD DIAMOND-MY REVIEW; WHAT IS YOUR TAKE?
From: holywood twist
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Date Posted: 09:18:17 12/01/07 ()
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I agree with some of your points. I did not think the movie tried to gain sympathy for one ethnic gruop. the movie was based on the story of few characters. thats the path the writer chose. plus we all know holly wood movies they always add a few edges to it. they have to or else they would not get americans to go see it. it is about capitalism. when you invest in a movie you want you money back. if you want a movie that is 100 percent accurate you might need independent film makers for that whom dont care about sales or getting they money back but try to stay real to the scr1pt. The mende was not good in the movie that was the only problem i saw with it. i knew what i was gonna get when i went to see it. i figured out like all hollywood movies they had to push it to sell. same thign as amistad. in amistad they twisted that the lawyer the former president of us took the case because of slavery. but he did not take it because of slavery. he took it because of other technicalities. but if they said the truth do you think people would have cared much. they had to keep the american viewer involved. until africa and other continents we develop well enough where we can make great films and also have a large middle class to pay to go see these movies so that the movie makers get they money back we are goign to be seeign movies like this. i respect your critism though. as individuals we should feel free to criticise something. that what makes countries like america great the freedom of th epeople to speak up. hope one day salone woudl get ther ewithout they saying oh you talkin bad about slpp oh you talkin bad about apc.
Subject: Agnes Kulu Banya LIAR and Church Money Theif!!!
From: Shandra Koroma
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Date Posted: 02:21:44 12/01/07 ()
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She lied on Victor of Bethel United African Church, because she is a turn coat. She helps to hide her son in law real job the secret one at immigration. AGNES KULU BANYA son in law (Tyrone Jamison) is looking into the families of Bethel United African Church to get them.. Tyrone Jamison has slept with many African women and has appeared as a angel of light only to end up in there bed... Many families of Bethel has been hurt by this man, and Agnes defends him, even against someone as honest and good as Victor. Victor is the man Agnes ran to for help, now she is nothing more than a American Thug Boy lap Dog...
Subject: A FEMALE PRESIDENT IN SIERRA
From: TK
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Date Posted: 00:57:32 12/01/07 ()
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Posted by Aminata Dumbuya on November 29, 2007 at 23:01:49:
I think it's high time we started thinking of a female president. I have read the history of Sierra Leone with sadness as men with large sticks, ravenous appetites and murderous instincts have bloodied and stripped naked, Mother Sierra Leone for 40 years making it one of the most hellish places places on earth today. I have the greatest regard for our menfolk and acknowledge with awe the paternalistic society that is Sierra Leone. The role of the Sierra Leone man in the shaming of the country is really egregious. I hope that women will tie their lappas and step up to the plate. We have a role to play in the development of our sweet country and we should defy conventional wisdom and the condescension of KINI and KOTHO to do so.
I honestly believe that there will be a female president in the next 10 years. I am as sure of this as another Candid Opinion forum ban and prodigal welcome. We the Estrogen Brigade are practising and busting our chops for the big dance. We want to govern Sierra Leone our way, with smarts, motherly love and in high heels.
I wish you all a lovely weekend.
Aminata.
Subject: ABSOLUTE NONESENSE
From: KUSHEH
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Date Posted: 02:35:07 12/01/07 ()
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I don't have a problem with a female ruler; I have a proble, however, with the writer's lack of insight.
First of all, a female with power is no different from her male counterpart. Besides, if war is declared at a female president by the likes of the RUF, she certainly will not defend her self with breast milk or some motherly love.
Subject: Re: ABSOLUTE NONESENSE
From: Aminata Dumbuya
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Date Posted: 06:57:40 12/01/07 ()
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Kabboh O, Kusheh! Theoretically, a terrible ruler is a terrible ruler no matter the gender. However, in reality we have not yet put that theory sufficiently to the test, at least in Africa. My posting is not really an indulgence in a battle of the sexes. Far from it. It's just that we have only had men as leaders in S/L and they haven't yet done a marvellous job of governing. I think we should now make it easier for women to take a turn in the presidency and see what they can do.
For those countries that have given women the chance they have really done a whole lot better than their male counterparts. Ellen Johnson Sirleaf is getting kudos in Liberia and is a much better president than Charles Taylor or the Master Sergeant.
As for military toughness, women are no shrinking violets when it comes to issues of national security. Golda Meir of Israel was PM when Israel routed the Arab armies in the Six-Day War. Indira Gandhi used to give the shakes to the Pakistani Army in their wars over Kashmir, and of course who can forget the Iron Lady Margaret Thatcher herself. Remember what she did to the Argentine generals during the Falklands war?
So please don't be too concerned sir. Women are up to it. Thanks.
Subject: Re: ABSOLUTE NONESENSE
From: KUSHEH
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Date Posted: 15:57:24 12/01/07 ()
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Once again, my Salone sister, I am not going to dispute the fact that certain cultural beliefs and practices have deterring consequencies towards women in leadership roles. But at the same rate, we must also accept the fact that it takes certain qualities in a person, woman or man, to become a ruler and many a time those qualities supersedes cultural deterrents. So in your case, I don't think we should make it easier for a female to become president, we probably will want to see a woman who is strong enough to manhandle those cultural deterrents. I want to see a woman who brings out "THE MAN" in her to be my president. How many Sierra Leonean women will continue their aspirations towards a run for the presidency after a bomb scare like what happened to Bhutto in Pakistan? How many Sierra Leonean woman can stand against popular cultural beliefs that are not progressive if elected?
Subject: Re: ABSOLUTE NONESENSE
From: young student
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Date Posted: 10:14:53 12/01/07 ()
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I dont think the gender matters. I think its the individuala nd what they can bring to the table. we need to try to empower all people regardless of gender, tribe or race in our country. we need laws and enforcement of these laws that make it possible for women to be able to play a greater role and someday the same role as men. we need educational forums in all areas in our socitey to both men and women that promote equality. if we continue to treat women as a sub class then we would be guilty of what others have done in the past not only to women but to people of different races, tribes . my brothers and sisters we are above this. we should try to educate others as well. women and men are equally capable of been good and bad leaders.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT IN SIERRA
From: Panlamp
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Date Posted: 01:10:03 12/01/07 ()
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Aunty Aminata,
I know nothing is impossible but a female President in the next 10 years ? Keep on dreaming. That delicious cassada leaf that you ate must be doing a good job in your tomy but not in the name of THE LAND THAT WE LOVE OUR SIERRA LEONE.
Luntha Kara Bai
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT IN SIERRA
From: TK
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Date Posted: 01:01:13 12/01/07 ()
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Sorry, the title is meant to be "A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE".
Subject: Frontpage News????
From: Modupeh
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Date Posted: 23:31:43 11/30/07 ()
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I like Sister but "Sierra Leone's super star Vicky Fornah rocks Canada" is really great but not worthy of headline news.
The day starts to get boring too to see Foday Mansaray ranting with gramatical hiccups and good old nothing.
Kabs where art thou.
Subject: FGM DEBATE CONTINUES
From: THAVARISH
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Date Posted: 22:26:25 11/30/07 ()
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http://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.com/
Subject: Final Results Finally Here
From: Sheku Kallon
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Date Posted: 20:32:56 11/30/07 ()
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Hey wait a minute. I am only seeing this bit:
Final total results - Koroma APC 979,411, Berewa SLPP 958,705.
What does this mean? Is this now the official final results? If this is so do we now see why the SLPP was calling for a recounting of the entire results and in the presence of political parties. Christiana Thorpe chose to do selective recounting and refusing to heed to the demands of SLPP. How transparent was the process then?
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: Curious
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Date Posted: 03:36:49 12/02/07 ()
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Why come uip with the vote figures 2 1/2 months after announcing the results?????What was being done in last 2 1/2 months???Sacking unwanted Mendes from the Commission??
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: nico
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Date Posted: 07:21:51 12/02/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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They were dismissed not because they are mendes but because they openly showed support and vested interest in the SLPP wining the elction, this made them impartial, unprofessional- hence their position became untenable.
If they were unhappy about the conduct of the election or if they believe there were foul plays against the SLPP, they should have resigned citing that as their reason for the whole world to see. They would have gain more sympathy and credibility if they had acted that way.
Please note that the electoral officers were not representing their respective political parties but were required to be non-partisan and impartial in the execution of their duties.
Any conduct, by way of actions or deed that was deemed contrary to that stipulated in their statutory duties was sufficient to gave cause to an instant dismissal.
If however the officers believe that their dismissal was unlawful or tribally motivated should they not pursue a legal redress for their dismissal.
The fact that the sacked officers were mendes or perceived supporters of the SLPP do not explain why they were dismissed. Perhaps you should come up with a more logical position on this or substantiate your premise.
But please do not tell us it is red because it is read. I meant you should not tell us the officers were sacked because of being mendes. That will not be enough.
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: nico
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Date Posted: 08:51:51 12/02/07 ()
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meant to be Partial, not impartial.
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 06:05:26 12/01/07 ()
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: nico
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Date Posted: 05:15:49 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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Mr Kallon please re-read Ms Thorpe's statement invalidating the rogue ballots. The lady explained her reasons very thoroughly that even a primary kid can comprehend. I am not saying that the election was not rigged because I was not a participant or an observer. But on the basis of her statement, it is clear that she had justified her nulification of certain election results on a stipulated electoral rules that governs the conduct of fair elction.
Thorpe did not only nulified the over voting in SLPP stronghold of Kailahun but did the same with over voting in the APC stronghold.
Whatever differences we may hold,I think if you believe that your party was cheated of victory, then you should challenge it in the court of Law.
I understand your former purported SLPP president Kabba designated a special court to deal with protest emanating from the recently conducted election. Why not use the legal remedy available to your party instead of writing meaningless postings.
Now read an excerpt from C THORPE which justified her decision.
"We do not expect a polling station that registered 20 people and during the elections 30 voted. If that happens then we automatically have more than 100%, because the 100% is the 20 people that registered. If the number of ballot in that polling station is more than the number of people that registered in that polling station, then we invalidate the polling station. This is what we mean by invalidated station�.
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: FORREST GUMP
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Date Posted: 05:41:04 12/01/07 ()
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Can someone please tell me where these extra ballots papers came from.I honestly thought they were under the control of the NEC, or did the NEC stuffed these boxes just to discredit the SLPP
FORREST
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 06:20:23 12/01/07 ()
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Some Electoral members have been relieved of their duties ansd some have been demoted.
So look insai dae normoh!
NEC may have done their internal disciplinary actions. I don't know whether, and I do not feel that, the Electoral Act requires that they announce their internal posits on actions taken against employees.
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: APC Forever
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Date Posted: 05:39:52 12/01/07 ()
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Nico, Sheku Kallon's problems are derived not from the lack of comprehension, but from the lack of integrity.
Don't waste your time responding to him man.
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 02:55:04 12/01/07 ()
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Buddy stop crying over spilt milk!
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 22:25:48 11/30/07 ()
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If even the result was as it is, 20,000 votes..?
And these APC nincompoops are crying mandate and throuncing..? And how Berewa was unpopular and SLPP was kicked out.. ?
20,000, and we are not talking about the ones stuff in boxes in portloko.. and bombali..
APC did not win this election with a clear mandate.. it was barely won and the krio gyal fraid that her bode ose nah regent will be burnt down yek for standup and call for a recount?
Shame on her..
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
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Date Posted: 01:22:59 12/01/07 ()
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it was barely won and the krio gyal fraid that her bode ose nah regent will be burnt down
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I have heard that before and that is when Freetown was really burning. Dejavu? or just empty intimidating talk.
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 09:29:21 12/01/07 ()
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Alpha Alieu...
Me nor threaten no one.
Just saying that such was the dilemma she found herself on election eve, she did not think FT would be safe with an SLPP win...
Police was on the edge, most probably army too..
UN was copnjoling her for another landmark "Test CASE Democratic" change in government in Africa..
She was under extreme pressure..She should have kneeled down and prayed...but wo yang..
She choose the devil she did not know..
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: NAR U SABI
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Date Posted: 02:28:26 12/01/07 ()
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NAR U SABI
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: NAR WAY U BELFUL
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Date Posted: 07:08:49 12/01/07 ()
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NAR WAY U BELFUL.
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: NAR U SABI
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Date Posted: 07:38:59 12/02/07 ()
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HOW BRA NA ME YOU FASHIN
NAR U SABI
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: NAR WAY U BELFUL
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Date Posted: 23:36:50 12/02/07 ()
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PA U NAR MI BRA.
NAR WAY U BELFUL.
Subject: Re: Final Results Finally Here
From: NAR U SABI
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Date Posted: 05:38:39 12/03/07 ()
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AR go tell me late paddy im big brother leh he konk you hade for me you no who dat ar min
NAR U SABI
Subject: Post froma Friend Christiana Thorpe
From: Sheku Kallon
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Date Posted: 20:29:58 11/30/07 ()
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Christiana Thorpe has been hailed as the sweetest rose but that 'rose' is becoming bitter by the day. Her attempt to publish what she called the final results now is only adding insults to injury. Perhaps, she thinks SLPP supporters are stupid. We now see why the international community was even nervous when SLPP was going for a court injunction. Christiana Thorpe arbitrarily chose to announce a version of a results that would allow her to declare APC the winner and failing to make the process transparent. The fact that there was controversy over the results was enough for Christaina Thorpe to have made the recounting transparent to satisfy all the parties. I believe the Tinkoko issue is now tormenting her and so she decided to come out with another version now and a version that is just confirming that the results were doctored.
The painful thing in all this is why the SLPP should have allowed itself to be disadvantaged in such a way? Well, when you have a sell out like Tejan Kabba what else could one expect. The whole truth will come out one day.
Christiana Thorpe will not escape this. She will definitely pay for this one day. How can anyone be so stupid not to see into the nakedness of her manipulation?
Subject: Re: Post froma Friend Christiana Thorpe
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
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Date Posted: 16:30:22 12/02/07 ()
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Sheku, our problems started from our selfishness. Put self above all else. The country and the party were loners. Those the country and party gave bread to abandoned interests because they have pocketed, what they thought was enough money, to help them in their past times. The country and the party suffered under the greed and selfishness of majority of the party leaders.
kabba has no blame in this but all who stood and were unable to defend party and country.
The country was not able to understand or grasp what we did or did not do? Our leaders were to busy stashing their cash to have time to explain what the party was doing for the country. neglect with recklessness cost us the elections.
Subject: Re: Post froma Friend Christiana Thorpe
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 01:18:42 12/01/07 ()
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Perhaps, she thinks SLPP supporters are stupid.
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Sory to inform you, Sheku they are infact so, more particularly when they things like this "She will definitely pay for this one day" under their own names.
Subject: Re: Post froma Friend Christiana Thorpe
From: NAR U SABI
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Date Posted: 02:38:50 12/01/07 ()
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NAR U SABI is this a threat. Alieu
Subject: Re: Post froma Friend Christiana Thorpe
From: NAR WAY U BELFUL
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Date Posted: 07:10:41 12/01/07 ()
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NAR WAY U BELFUL
Subject: Re: Post froma Friend Christiana Thorpe
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 22:00:30 11/30/07 ()
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Sheku, can you do an investigation to find out who will be the President's Press Secretary ? This will give you more respect if you get us the truth.
Subject: Re: Post froma Friend Christiana Thorpe
From: Insider
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Date Posted: 00:10:11 12/01/07 ()
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I can authoritatively state that the Rev. will travel to freetown to assume the position of Press secretary
and state house Director of communication by mid week.
The Rev does not need to debate with anyone. This Job is his to take or turn down.
Forumites please join me in biding farewell to the great Rev.
Subject: FAREWELL TO COCORIOKO FORUM
From: HardCore
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Date Posted: 18:55:31 11/30/07 ()
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I would like to bade farewell to all my peeps on this forum with whom I have had both fruitful and contentious debate under my different monikers.
I would miss my "bro" the always thoughtful Fen Plaba,the catostrophizer-Candid Opinion,the very Rev himself-Kabs,the opinionated John Leigh,always funny Bambay,Lawyer Allieu,Dogman Sengbe,the Kailahun mascot-Bra Enviable,the Jersey Don-Foday,El loco-he knows himself,and all those who are striving for a better Sa Lone.
I am taking leave as I have been assigned to another country for the next eighteen months.I wish you all goodluck and let us continue to be watchdogs for the benefit of mama salone.
Subject: Re: FAREWELL TO COCORIOKO FORUM
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 07:04:07 12/01/07 ()
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I hope that your farewell is just temporary and that I would help spread the red carpet for you in 18 months. I wish you well, bro in your assignment. God Bless!
Subject: Re: FAREWELL TO COCORIOKO FORUM
From: fact
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Date Posted: 03:28:16 12/01/07 ()
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No internet where you're going? Is it Timbucktoo?
Subject: Re: FAREWELL TO COCORIOKO FORUM
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 22:18:53 11/30/07 ()
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I bid you farewell my friend..
Hope they have internet access on that ship, boat, island, forest or where ever your call is..
We know you will come back once in a while and hang at the coc's igbaleh..
May God butter you brade..
I am not all doom and gloom you see..
Cheers.
Subject: Re: FAREWELL TO COCORIOKO FORUM
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 20:17:43 11/30/07 ()
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Thank you brother HARD CORE for being kind enough to say good-bye.
Please stay safe and blessed in the hands of God.
Subject: WHAT IS POLITICS ALL ABOUT?
From: Thinker
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Date Posted: 17:53:08 11/30/07 ()
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We all talk about politics every day, but do we really stop to think about politics; what it is all about?
We even talk about trying women in political leadership and all that kind of stuff but what do we really want from politicians or to be exact, what do we want our president to beand must he be doing to win our hearts and minds?
Aminata Dumbuya comes along as a remarkably smart lady and so are many other Salone women like Dr Kadi Sesay, Afsatu Kabba, Janet Kandeh, etc. But if I may ask, why do we yearn for a female predident at this point in time? Are we looking for weak leaders that we can easily manipulate or our search is just for women or are we looking for a lion=hearted president like Pa Sheki?
My problem with Aminata Dumbuya is her identity. Who really knows her, apart from Alieu? I'm also concerned about her often stark masculine tone which doesn't make it clear whether she is a real woman or a man in female skin. No offence intended. Just curiosity and especially after Alieu had written about their probable 'circuitous' relationship.
As a matter of fact I like women leaders. They tend to possess this drive and aura that hypnotize men into thinking about all sorts of crazy things. Adrenaline is driven high and men become like work-horses to satisfy them, I mean professionally in the work place.
Whichever dimension I am in support of those guys who think that wommen leaders tend to be more cautious than their male counterparts and therefore less prone to corruptible practices.
Subject: Conflicting Information online about Press Secretary
From: State House Source
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Date Posted: 17:09:59 11/30/07 ()
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I work at State House and I can tell you for a fact that the information on this forum today that Sheka Tarawallie is the State House Press Secretary-Designate is not true , unless Shekito and his propagandists know something we do not know.
I believe any self-respecting press that cares for its credibility will not report on anything without first confirming from thr appropriate sources.
For those of you on this forum who are confused, I am giving you two important numbers to call to verify this information. The first one is 011-232-76-656-037 which is the Information Minister's number .I.B.Kargbo is directly responsible for appointing Press Secretaries . The second number is 011-232-76-348-512.This number belongs to Dr. Ayo Lake , who is directly working with I.B. Kargbo on the State House communication network.
Please call these two numbers and clarify this information. When you call, inform them about the story in the Patriotic Vanguard and Shekito's farewell party. Tell them that you were forced to call because there is so much confusion among readers online over the issue. Don't make any judgements yet. Hold back on your opinions and judgements and call .I am trying to help you.
If this information is true, you will be told and the confusion will be cleared. . Thanks.
Subject: Re: Conflicting Information online about Press Secretary
From: Peace
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Date Posted: 18:10:23 11/30/07 ()
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Are you saying that if the President has said he wants Shekito as his Press Secretary, I.B. Kargbo or Ayo Lake can say no? They dare not! Or else who has the last say? If the President has offerred the job to Shekito, he can't now change his word because Kabs wants it. Kabs is simply late, and he may want to settle for Director of Communications at SLBS.
Subject: Re: Conflicting Information online about Press Secretary
From: The Guy
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Date Posted: 18:05:25 11/30/07 ()
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I have called and they said it's not Kabs!!!!
Subject: Re: ADVICE FROM FORUM POLICE : Conflicting Information
From: FORUM POLICE
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Date Posted: 18:25:19 11/30/07 ()
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Since people are confused over this sensitive issue, please let's do our best to treat the matter with honesty . Posting under different names to confuse an issue like this is not advised .Let's stop this mischief and seek the truth
Subject: Re: Conflicting Information online about Press Secretary
From: Peace
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Date Posted: 18:10:23 11/30/07 ()
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Are you saying that if the President has said he wants Shekito as his Press Secretary, I.B. Kargbo or Ayo Lake can say no? They dare not! Or else who has the last say? If the President has offerred the job to Shekito, he can't now change his word because Kabs wants it. Kabs is simply late, and he may want to settle for Director of Communications at SLBS.
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Subject: Re: Conflicting Information online about Press Secretary
From: The Guy
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Date Posted: 18:05:25 11/30/07 ()
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I have called and they said it's not Kabs!!!!
Subject: STATE HOUSE NEW MOUTH PIECE - SHEKITO
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 15:12:08 11/30/07 ()
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Well i guess its not Kabs Kanu after all..
Shekito don pack for goooooooooooo..
Threw a big party, invited all white boys.. the little man that he is...handly has a black friend he wishes to celebrate with..
Plastered himself on PV with a bunch of accolades he hardly deserves, but thats the nature of the umar bongo complex....
I hope he did not pack too many platforms in those suitcases..
Presidents are know to change press secretaries like they change draws..(en we all know about ernest en e changy business, some say he has ADD "All Driff nar Driff" syndrome.).
So it wont be long...
Subject: Re: STATE HOUSE NEW MOUTH PIECE - SHEKITO
From: State House Source
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Date Posted: 16:51:14 11/30/07 ()
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I am still surprised and at a loss to understand why I keep reading that Shekito is going to be the Press Secretary here and that he has already thrown a farewell party. If you guys on this forum are really serious about knowing the truth , please call the Information Minister and clarify. His number is 011-232-76-656-037 . Dr. Ayo Lake is directly working with IB. Kargbo on this State House communication thing. He knows everything about the Press Secretary and the Presidential website. His number is 011-232-76-348-512. I was expecting that was what Patriotic Vanguard should have done first before writing. Can someone among you call these numbers tonight and clarify let us know the truth ?
Subject: Re: STATE HOUSE NEW MOUTH PIECE - SHEKITO
From: THE GUY
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Date Posted: 16:07:02 11/30/07 ()
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Shekito is the right man in the right place
Subject: Re: STATE HOUSE NEW MOUTH PIECE - SHEKITO
From: Serious Business
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Date Posted: 06:20:06 12/01/07 ()
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My assessment of the situation is that PV is saying the President himself offered the job to Shekito, while Kabs relies on IB and Ayo Lake for an answer. It's the President's prerogative to choose his Press Secretary, and not a minister or anybody else. Kabs will be better in checking with the President, if not he'll find himself at odds with the Head of State. And that is not a joke!
Subject: Re: STATE HOUSE NEW MOUTH PIECE - SHEKITO
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 15:15:23 11/30/07 ()
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Befoe i forget..
Britons bid farewell to press secretary designate
- Friday 30 November 2007.
By Our Correspondent.
UK-based Sierra Leonean journalist, Sheka Tarawalie (Shekito), who has been called upon by President Ernest Bai Koroma to serve as Press Secretary at State House, has been accorded an unforgettable farewell in Manchester.
It was a very emotional ceremony during which speaker after speaker commended the work that Tarawalie has done in their community. �You have created a lot of impact, and you will leave a big vacuum, and the problem is who will fill that vacuum?� John Rawlinson, the chief organizer of the occasion said.
Tarawalie has worked as Adviser at the Citizens Advice Bureau. He is one of his church�s cell group leaders, and has been writing for the local press.
�All I ever knew about Sierra Leone was during my school days when they taught us about �the white man�s grave�. Beyond that nothing, until Sheka came and told us about a beautiful country called Sierra Leone. We will love to follow you to Sierra Leone; please tell your President we are coming. We thank him for appointing you in this position, and we know you are capable of facing up to the challenge,� Dorothy Blackburn declared.
In his response, Sheka Tarawalie stressed how difficult it was to part with such wonderful and lovely people. He said, �If it were not for love of country, for the love of my people, I would have loved to continue being with you; but I have been called upon to serve my people and I have to honour that.� Tarawalie said he would convey their sentiments to the President and people of Sierra Leone, and that he knew very soon they would like to come and visit Sierra Leone.
In other engagements, Shekito bade farewell to Britain�s National Union of Journalists and resigned from the management board of the Exiled Journalists Network. Sierra Leonean journalist cum academic, Dr Ibrahim Seaga Shaw, himself a board member, described Shekito�s appointment as �well deserved� and that �his contributions to freedom of the press in the UK will be missed�.
Subject: Re: FOR CANDID OPINION
From: NAR U SABI
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Date Posted: 15:35:26 11/30/07 ()
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Candid stop this ARIOBO business. Your article was culled from a PV issue that was rebutted by State House. Shekito is going to China. Kabs will have the last laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. Remember Candid, I told you so.
Subject: Re: FOR CANDID OPINION
From: NAR U SABI
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Date Posted: 17:26:04 11/30/07 ()
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WHO THE HELL IS THIS. WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH MY HANDLE, THIS IS INDENTITY THEFT, PLEASE STOP USING MY HANDLE,I THOUGHT YOU NORMALLY USE BRABANXX
NAR U SABI
Subject: Re: FOR CANDID OPINION
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 15:40:37 11/30/07 ()
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I know..
I was a shocked as you..
But the article says Shekito will be the NEW press sectary.. And the Guy mad a hugh farewell party and invited his white friends..
So.. until that article is recinded.. or Kabs come out with a statement. or the horse himself (IB kargbo) clears the air..
Shekito, it seems has his platforms packed.. and no praying or adayjobi is going to change that..
So says PV... not me mate...
Subject: Assets Declared are they made public
From: Dylan Sogie-Thomas
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Date Posted: 13:49:40 11/30/07 ()
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I learnt from this forum that ministers declared their assets to parliament.I think their assets should be made available to any citizen through parliament.However I wonder if some of our parliamentarians know who they are representing in Parliament.
All senior officials should declare!
Subject: Re: Assets Declared are they made public
From: Hashim Daboh
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Date Posted: 16:17:33 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: Gboyama@yahoo.co.uk
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No . That very important information is still kept secret ,and I've no doubt that H.E knows the public is very interested in the development.Until Ernest call the Kabbahs' to give a public testimony of their dismal stewardship to all ,i continue to treat Ernest's corruption talk with the utmost travesty . And just a reminder to the president, progress and fight against corruption starts with openness, nothing more nothing less. We should know where our political appointees go, why ,how long and how many . Such information must come through a pre-travel press briefing and a public debriefing on return to Sierra Leone. But again ,i doubt if ngor Ernest is up to the job . Probably ,like his predecessor Tejan ,he might just be a nice civil servant ,but not a political leader. Hope am wrong.
Subject: sex tourism
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 13:43:28 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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A couple weeks ago there was discussion on this forum about the exploitation of young ladies in Sierra Leone, this article offers a different twist. I have seen talk of improving tourism in SL on this forum. Let's be careful that we don't end up with this kind of toursim too.
Subject: Re: sex tourism
From: Tourist
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Date Posted: 16:57:38 11/30/07 ()
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In my estimation, most of these young men are only looking for exit strategy out of Kenya. A lot have already got out this way, sad to say.
Subject: Re: sex tourism
From: TWO Sense
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Date Posted: 19:51:15 11/30/07 ()
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This does not only happen in Kenya, It also happens in Sierra Leone. Try walking down Lumley beach you will see some of our young salone boys with these old white women. Many look at this as there way out of Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: sex tourism
From: TOURIST COMPANY
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Date Posted: 17:02:57 12/01/07 ()
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THIS HAPPENS ALL OVER THE WORLD FOR GOD SAKE, and sometimes it is not a prblem. for me i was driver of tourism company and I took two white woman upcountry and one of them was so nice to me she keep on offering to share her room with me especially when going to places where hotels are expensive, so coming back she asked me to ask for a mattress and share her room with her which I did and Oh my God she was on fire all night along the beach in HOTEL DE BELAIR , GUINEE.
she loved it so much that she is coming back again this christmas and I promise her a warm christmas.
Ironically her too her husband is rich and so am I.
Subject: NEW FORUM
From: ISSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:01:34 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: issa@yahoo.com
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Message:
This is to inform better minds that an independent forum is underway in New Jersey. A forum where we can address issues and 'emulsify' the character of miscreants.
Kabs why are always carrying the picture of Chritiana Thorpe on your publications? Is that sign of gratitude? Please answer.
Subject: THe somerset Cabal
From: Issa Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 12:55:34 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: Issa@yahoo.com
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I want to know if Foday the Deputy Bank Governor has piad back Fatu Kossay's six hundred and twenty dollars. A parvenu on this forum said Foday played an important role in the restoration of democracy in SL.That is just a figment of his immagination. He was nothing but a spy for AFRC/RUF rebels. You guys think you can ban me from this forum but you are incapable. Try to block all the ITS in America. Tell us Kabs when you will assuming your post. You have been rewarded for lieing but there is hell waiting for the 'pastor'.Alex Mansaray lobbied for recognition in the SLPP but he lacks the finesse and character to be absorbed. YOU are FAKE FAKE FAKE mediocres
Subject: APC innauguration
From: Molai
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Date Posted: 12:46:11 11/30/07 ()
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Who was the MC at the APC innauguration?
Subject: What about African Americans and Sierra Leone
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 12:31:37 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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I know that Ghana has been able to attract a pretty significant African American community so I wonder if and how Sierra Leone can attract African Americans to invest there. Any thoughts?
Subject: Re: What about African Americans and Sierra Leone
From: Investor
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Date Posted: 13:05:27 11/30/07 ()
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African Americans have deep roots in Sierra Leone, documented and verified with advances in DNA research.
Once Sierra Leoneans and African Americans start viewing themselves as partners in the re development of Sierra leone,interesting possibilities will be the
norm.
Sierra Leone must take the lead in creating a modern, business friendly environment.
The timing may be right,under the current political
dispensation.
Subject: What Can We Do for Sierra Leone
From: Oremso
To: All
Date Posted: 10:22:09 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: oremso@yahoo.com
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It is rather unfortunate that most Sierra Leoneans living outside the country are normally excited during and after political transition not only with the hope of better governance to improve the lives of those living in the country (if any) but also with the possibility to secure government related jobs. Looking at the stories behind the economic boom of emerging economies like India and Brazil, majority of the SMEs and even larger corporation are owned or started by their returning citizens from the west. They returned home after thorough feasibility studies with different business ideas (not expecting government jobs) and the end result is phenomenon.
I kept asking myself, why Sierra Leoneans aren�t doing something similar for their country, instead of what the country can do for us. Is it lack of love, I asked myself? The recent by HE E Koroma to Senegal for a tour of their rapid infrastructural project and economic growth, prompted me to review the economies of Senegal and Ghana. To my surprise, these nations economic rejuvenation were stirred up by returning citizens establishing key industries (large corporate via JVs and SMEs). I guess you can tell my feeling by this time. The latter findings exacerbate my despondency to a new level and led me to ask this question again: Do we really really love our country? I do, but what can I do to show that I really love Sierra Leone?
I rest my case.
By the way, I may have to go to Sierra Leone next year for some feasibility studies (not buying and selling of course, but rather producing and selling), depending on the findings this may lead me to a different locat1on to obtain core competencies.
Subject: Re: What Can We Do for Sierra Leone
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 12:31:43 11/30/07 ()
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Bra,
I've gone to SL many times on feasibility studies and my report concluded that I need constant electricity which did not exist in SL.
I personally got disenfranchised about SL due to Kabbah's Gov. I initially hoped that since he's a seasoned retired UN diplomat therefore Sierra Leone should have moved at a faster rate. It was hyped initially that Bumbuna would be completed by 2007, but there was no signs of that being achieved, So I eventually lost all hopes on SL.
Now that EBK is on to it, I'm restarting to think about it, but unfortunately some SLPP partisan forumites Do Not Want to see Bumbuna completed by APC regardless of whether the country will gain blissfully.
SO Mr. Preso......JUS GEE WEE DI LAIT.......Let the Industrialisation process begin...and the rest will follow.
Caveat: I'm neither APC nor SLPP and have never voted for any party (I'm very suspicious when it comes to politicians, but there might be some honest ones).
Subject: Re: What Can We Do for Sierra Leone
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 11:56:16 11/30/07 ()
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You raised valid points..
I think with the new energy that the change of governement brings..
if electricity can be harnessed (Ghana had always had electricity) we should be moving in the right direction.
One of our biggest drawbacks is the availability of major credit. And the lack of government backbone to draw the population into a formal economic setting..
We all know too well that 70% of salones economy is channeled tru informal means. That coupled with the inability of Governement institution to throw the shackles of inefficiency away stagnates our economy and deprive it of the needed oxygen..
http://rru.worldbank.org/businessplanet/
http://www.doingbusiness.org/ExploreEconomies/?economyid=166
It cannot be underestimated that we spend more time to close a business than to open one.
Indicator Sierra Leone Region OECD
Total tax rate (% profit) 233.5 68.0 46.2
Sometimes you wonder what these fools talk about in parliament..? With all thier PHD's and MBA's..
How hard would it be to slash business license wait time, Amount, registration fee, process....
Anyways.. we are black. enti you know..
Subject: Re: What Can We Do for Sierra Leone
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 10:51:50 11/30/07 ()
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There are many Sierra Leoneans doing exactly what you are suggesting. Some are working with the government to create the enabling environment. Some intend to set up investment/venture capital type organizations. Others are using their connections to direct multinational investor interest in Sierra Leone. (I don't personally fall into any of these categories, but am a strong cheerleader which counts for something!) We tend to focus on some of the less admirable qualities of our people, but there is much good in Sierra Leone and Sierra Leoneans.
Subject: KABS SILENCE ON THIS ISSUE IS WORRISOME SIGN
From: POLITICAL
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Date Posted: 10:01:00 11/30/07 ()
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If what I first disclosed about KABS appointment as press secretary is true, the long silence of the Rev. is a worrisome sign that he may not be forthcoming with the Sierra Leoneans in his new position. This is a position in which the Sa lonean people rely to get information on the activities of their government. Therefore, any occupant of this position should be frank and prompt in his response to the sa lone people.
Does this long silence of the Rev means we may be heading for "weapons of mass deception" in the state house? Please KABS your silence is not helping you and most importantly the nature of the job you are about to take if the rumor is true.
Subject: IF A TRUE OBJECTIVE JOURNALIST,I ADVISE HIM TO STAY OUT .
From: okdok
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Date Posted: 15:32:00 11/30/07 ()
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I am sure if he really choosed to be a true objective journalist,he should stay out of politics.
Subject: Re: KABS SILENCE ON THIS ISSUE IS WORRISOME SIGN
From: aratadokomot
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Date Posted: 11:05:47 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: elvisk2004@yahoo.co.uk
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wona wait let the man make a decide if he want the position or not. He get for think but familiy ties.
wanna wan know every thing people they go through.
Subject: Re: KABS SILENCE ON THIS ISSUE IS WORRISOME SIGN
From: Issa Kamara
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Date Posted: 12:42:36 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: Issa@yahoo.com
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Kabs is supposed to be silent on this matter. He knows he is not fit for it. He would have been appointed chief of the investigative bureau of the CID. I am still waiting for him to tell me the names of universities he got his degrees from in the UK and US.I read someone say he is thinking about family matters to decide. A broke man like that who is doing two jobs(teaching and security) to decide? We are watching. I also want to know the name of the bank Foday Mansaray is a board member. Can you also tell me Alex Mansaray'sID#, school and the year he was in Rutgers? This APC and Sam Sumana syndrome should end.
Subject: Re: KABS SILENCE ON THIS ISSUE IS WORRISOME SIGN
From: PATRIOT
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Date Posted: 11:24:52 11/30/07 ()
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Nar true yah. Kabs may have been offered the job but as a family man with strong ties in America , a teaching job and I learnt he is a Private Investigator for a security company, he cannot just leave like that.The school has to have a replacement or his licence may be in jeopardy and if he had been given cases to investigate by his company, he has to make reports about where he has stopped for the other person to continue .Therefore it is understandable .
However , he has to hurry up and tell us whether the story is true. We can understand if he tells us that it is still tentative and he has not finally decided , but the offer has been made . He owes us an explanation because of the reliance we have created in him. He can't abandon us like that.We need to know the fate of Cocorioko, the forum and his journalism career.
Subject: SPECIALLY FOR DR. SAMA BANYA
From: Osh Ya
To: All
Date Posted: 08:53:25 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: thenewsletter@hotmail.com
Entered From: amontsouris-152-1-65-113.w83-202.abo.wanadoo.fr at 83.202.75.113
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Leh the case don now!
Subject: Re: SPECIALLY FOR DR. SAMA BANYA
From: fact
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Date Posted: 12:54:58 11/30/07 ()
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This is very funny. I wonder puawa-rass and jj blood keep crying when even their boss (Berewa) admitted that apc had won.
Subject: Re: SPECIALLY FOR DR. SAMA BANYA
From: fact
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Date Posted: 12:56:09 11/30/07 ()
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This is very funny. I wonder puawa-rass and jj blood keep crying when even their boss (Berewa) admitted that apc had wo
Subject: Re: SPECIALLY FOR DR. SAMA BANYA
From: Yongawo
To: All
Date Posted: 16:06:20 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: yonga@aol.com
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I wonder why the so called 'moderator' or forum 'police' had not stopped this post, which is so out of ideas and painted with insult directed against an old man.This is not the Sa Lone way. Or am I from a different Sa Lone.
Subject: Re: SPECIALLY FOR DR. SAMA BANYA
From: fact
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Date Posted: 12:57:32 11/30/07 ()
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This is very funny. I wonder WHY puawa-rass and jj blood keep crying when even their boss (Berewa) admitted that apc had won.
Subject: Why Civil Servants Must Stay Out Of Politics
From: Commentator
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Date Posted: 08:49:57 11/30/07 ()
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Why Civil Servants Must Stay Out Of Politics
It was agreed that when civil servants take active part in politics, the first casualty is their efficiency on job which is hampered by frequent absences from work when they hit the campaign trail on behalf of their political parties.
The drop in morale of junior workers is easily discernable when they can no longer lay their hands on stationery and logistical supports to effects the work of their offices. Such funds as should have been spent on acquisition of logistics and others are instead spent by civil servants to beef up the campaign activities of the party of their choice.
Another group that is supposed to divorce themselves from politics are Paramount Chiefs for the good reason that, Paramount Chiefs are installed in office to serve their people.
Even when Paramount Chiefs have the rights to belong to politics parties as they are political animals, they often mistake their rights to belong to political parties as a right to manipulate other citizens and even marginalise those citizens who belong to other political parties, thereby creating bad blood between the paramount chief and his subjects.
And very often, when paramount chiefs who indulged in politics are scrutinized and threatened when their political party loses, they accused the government of the day of witch hunting or victimisation.
All this could be avoided by paramount chiefs who are visibly apolitical and allow other people to join the political parties of their choice without let or hindrance.
By far the most dangerous development is when police personnel actively join politics and begin to take orders directly from politicians who may want to stifle the chances of their opponents using the police.
The first victim of this police blunder of joining political parties is the truth and self respect of individual officials.
Because when a police man�s action shows that he can no longer fairly dispose of cases between rivals of political parties he has lost the right to be a police man a protector of life and property because he is no longer impartial and no longer interested in fair play.
There is no danger greater than police personnel who are supposed to maintain the peace are seen to be joining forces with partisans who will force them to bend the rules according to their whims and caprices and forced them to sacrifice the good job that the police is capable of doing in the country when they are apolitical.
It is interesting to note that Siaka Stevens faced a similar situation in 1968 and shortly after ascending to power, when he dismissed eleven of what he called �immoral men in uniform�
It can still happen today because the instance of immoral policemen displaying their mess in the last electoral campaign is all too evident and too glaring.
A word to the wise is quick sufficient
Subject: Re: Why Civil Servants Must Stay Out Of Politics
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 12:14:01 11/30/07 ()
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Commentator,
I couldn't agree with you more. Nothing wrecks the integrity of the Civil Service than partisan bureaucrats. I don't have to do s**t because my uncle's cousin's boyfriend is the Minister. Ain't that something? Partisan cops? Forget about it! I hope that this rot is cut out soon. Great posting!
Subject: WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?
From: Compatriot
To: All
Date Posted: 08:32:48 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: thenewsletter @hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 08:47:19 11/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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It is about rewards to the certain members of the media for their perceived support of the APC.
Subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 09:46:38 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
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The SLPP must be nieve to have allowed the opposition to win many supporters from the media. Whilst the SLPP was busy dishing out jobs to their tribesmen and sycophants, they forgot that sycophants don't win votes and are a transit supporters. At least the journalist appointed by the APC are qualified in their fields.
What is Sama Banya moaning about? Does he realised that he is the biggest benefactor of sycophancy, political prostitution and corrupttion in Sierra Leone political history.
What has Sama Banya done for Sierra Leone apart from crawling for jobs which he could not perform.
For instance under his chairmanship of the SLPP the party did not win a single seat in Freetown in the local election and lost miserably in the general election there.
When Kabba appointed him as his foreign minister against protestation from well meaning Sierra Leonean, Sama Banya again failed to achieve anything or make a mark. It was also under his leadership as foreign minister that Sierra Leone lost her High Commission building in London. Sama Banya never gave an account of the embassy saga even though he was at the centre of what happened.
The fact that Kabba appointed such disreputable and failed character as his chief adviser clearly demonstrate the SLPP inability to know what the people want. Sama Banya lacks morals and integrity. He is a schemer, a deceit and a gossips. He is intensely dislike and disrespected as a politician by even the people in his home town.
Sama Banya and Tejan Kabba are detrimental to the success of the SLPP.
Let Sama Banya go back to Kailahun and do some farming or build roads, something he was not ble to accomplished throughout his political prostitution, even when he held the development ministry and acted as vice president in the old APC govt.
Sama Banya do not know when enough is enough, he likes been in the limelight, that is why he writes rubbish in Sylvia Blydon News Paper.
Subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 09:32:39 11/30/07 ()
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Salone just got hoodwink into a sinister play of musical chairs..
The whole thing is begining to look like, leh we pull you man leh we put we yone man dem dey..
I was talking to a fella the other day..
He was grumbling about the salary John karimu made at NRA..
8000, noh man.. too borku for salone.. SLPP ahlaki.. SLPP tiff.. thats too much for one man..
Then it was annouced that his uncle might be the head at NRA.. man.. you should see backpedal..
Now he even thinks the salary is not too bad.. his uncle deserves it, he has worked hard.. it fits his qualifications.. he could get more if he had taken the UN job but he wanted to serve is country..
These are all words that came out of his ben 2 mot pennef mot..
Makes me wonder if it was not all about its our turn now...
Subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 12:36:52 11/30/07 ()
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Two hilarious things that will make my Dominican Mangu lunch have a very sweet and leisurely digestion:
1) The furiously back-pedalling nephew!
and
2) The Ole Lepet, Sama Banya, sanctimoniously accusing journalists of using their newspapers to peddle anti-SLPP bias WHILE he cynically uses Sylvia's pro-SLPP paper to level unsubstantiated charges and raw propaganda against his newspaper 'enemies' and the APC.
Subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 13:50:55 11/30/07 ()
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Mr Banya been a playa to the whole salone mess and had his own arena (ala: AW) aside..
The media was willfully and cornivingly unfair and malicious to the last government.
So far,and with stark evidence to boot..it may seem the hog money shabbing, the rewards and rebates are been cashed in.. even our good ole gold faring (slap meself) REVO is in the taking..
It was a cash for stamp scheme.
Makes you wonder.. i guess that was Mr banya's point.
*** opps...(gold faring) should be (God Fearing).
Subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?
From: Yongawo
To: All
Date Posted: 16:17:30 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: yonga@aol.com
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Message:
The question one may ask at this stage is where is ngor Margai?
Subject: Re: WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 04:42:06 12/01/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
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"The question one may ask at this stage is where is ngor Margai?"
Who ever posted the above quote need to tell us the link with the subject under discussion concerning Sama Banya. Unless if the writer wants to deflect the spotlight from Sama Banya. He will be disadvantaged if he try.
Subject: WHO??????
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 16:22:30 11/30/07 ()
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Who is that?
nah name you call so mine..
E don tay weh we yerri but our mugger who tiff the bomber..
I hoep he is alright.. i guess he is busy in court till next election..
Subject: MIGRATION OF AFRICAN PROFESSIONAL WORRIES AFRICAN LEADERS
From: THAVARISH
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Date Posted: 08:09:39 11/30/07 ()
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By Scott Bobb
The European Union has announced a plan to admit 20-million skilled workers during the next 20 years in order to meet projected labor shortages. The proposal has drawn protests from leaders in developing nations, and in particular Africa. they say this will aggravate an already severe shortage of skilled-labor in their countries.
Somali child who was wounded in fighting in Mogadishu is treated by an African Union doctor in Mogadishu, Somalia, 08 Nov 2007
The European Union's proposed Blue Card would allow non-European professionals, primarily in the fields of health, engineering and information technology, to work and eventually acquire permanent residency in Europe.
But, senior African officials say the proposal would aggravate what they called a brain drain of skilled African professionals that is hurting development on the continent.
A spokesman for the Ghana-based Association of African Universities, Pascal Hoba, said the effect is particularly demoralizing for Africa's universities which are training the next generations of African professionals.
"The African brain drain is a reality, unfortunately. And as an association of African universities, AAU is deeply concerned when the product of its endeavors is attracted by other horizons," said Hoba.
Statistics compiled by international organizations show that about 20,000 African professionals leave the continent each year. The number appears small when compared to the total number of migrant workers in the world, some 80 million, but it represents a significant portion of African professional corps.
A dozen countries, including Ghana, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Kenya, have lost 40 percent of their professionals or more. Some smaller countries, such as Cape Verde and the Gambia, have lost more than 60 percent of their skilled workers.
Zambia reportedly has lost more than 80 percent of its doctors trained since independence. South Africa lost one-quarter million professionals in the 1990s and now has vacancy rates of up to 40 percent in some public hospitals and government offices.
Critics say the figures mean that African universities are spending billions of dollars a year to help staff offices and laboratories in the developed world.
Hoba says the causes vary from country to country.
"In some countries depends on the political situation," he added. "And in some of them it is more the socio-economic problem."
He says war and political crises drive some professionals away from their home countries. But by far the greatest attractions are higher salaries and enhanced facilities for research and professional advancement.
The International Office of Migration tracks global migration patterns and sponsors conferences on migration issues. Its research director, Frank Lazcko, says migration is part of a globalization trend of labor.
"It is a mixture of both supply and demand factors. Across the world there is a growing demand for skilled people," he said. "You have competition between rich countries, but you also have movement of people from developing countries to richer countries in the north."
He says there is also significant migration from developing nations to other developing countries. And he notes that rural areas in Africa suffer the most from the brain drain because many professionals want to work only in the cities.
Laczko says the I.O.M. has programs that encourage skilled African expatriates to return home on temporary or permanent assignments.
Some countries, such as Botswana and South Africa, have launched programs to attract skilled citizens back home and ease their reintegration into local society.
Pascal Hoba says the African University Association has launched programs in Nigeria, Kenya and Ghana, whereby universities sponsor expatriate African professors for periods of three to six months to work at universities in their home countries.
But he says a more permanent lure (attraction) would be to improve salaries and facilities at African institutions.
"One of the recommendations that came up clearly is to reconsider the salary issues of higher education staff," added Hoba. "And also to make the environment of work appropriate for research or teaching and community engagement for higher education."
Laczko says in the past the predominant view was that the best way to develop a country was to stop migration. But he says there is a growing realization in some countries that migration is not all bad.
"Migration can bring a great number of benefits for the country of origin, most visibly in terms of the moneys that are sent back through remittances, but also through these various diaspora linkages and also when people return, whether temporarily or permanently, to their country of origin with new skills, new contacts and greater experience," said Laczko.
He notes that few countries restrict migration of their citizens. He says governments should recognize that worker mobility is likely to increase around the world and develop policies to address it.
"It is for governments to decide how best to manage that mobility in the interests of development and that inevitably also requires a certain degree of cooperation between states because migration inevitably involves two or more countries," he added.
The European Union says its proposed Blue Card program would avoid recruiting professional categories that are already in short supply in Africa. Some African governments have extracted pledges from certain western states to refrain from recruiting in Africa.
But observers say such agreements do not restrict the operations of private recruitment agencies which are becoming major players in global labor movements. As a result, they say there is no single solution to the global labor migration trend, if indeed there is any solution at all.
Subject: Re: MIGRATION OF AFRICAN PROFESSIONAL WORRIES AFRICAN LEADERS
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 16:15:18 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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So will this serve as a wake up call for resource rich countries like Sierra Leone so that they will really put effort toward improving opportunities for its people? There are many European countries that don't have a choice and have to open their doors because their aging populations are outpacing their birth rates.
What will it take for African governments to develop their countries to conditions that will attract versus creating mass exoduses like we have already seen?
Subject: women and men who sleep with others to get jobs
From: independent review
To: All
Date Posted: 04:20:12 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: independent@msn.com
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Message:
I started this post after one of the other posters brought it to attention what about men. in both cases the women and men who do it to get promotions are wrong. and the people the sleep with too are wrong. like Kabba little girl friend he had at fourah bah college whom threatened professors you all know who she is. or like John benjamin dating his cousins daughter isnt that sick? even though his cousin did not approve. what cousin would approve. or the latest gold digger. the mc i belive at the inauguration a girl known to sleep around to get jobs. and her mcing the occasion we all know how she got there. i woudl say i had sex with her she thought she was getting a promotion she asked me but i kept it moving, a real pimp does not pay for sex. i guess lot of these old timers know they have to use their governmental offices to get some or their positions. whom eva the girl slept with this time that was mc at apc inauguration needs to be put on blast. both parties using the presidential or ministerial or other government offices for sex shoudl be discouraged by namign them i have come to a conclusion.
Subject: Re: women and men who sleep with others to get jobs
From: independent review
To: All
Date Posted: 14:10:31 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: independentrev@msn.com
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Message:
i speak the truth. her mom got there too by sleeping with people. just because she is one of yours dont be scared. her and the girl that john bengamin slept with, and kabbas girl friend at fourah bah college. no one shoudl be above it. it was fine when i started talkin about it. but oh when it hits home some of you cannot take the truth. get over it. to get rid of coruption no one should be spared.
Subject: Re: women and men who sleep with others to get jobs
From: LOW GRADE SAN SAN
To: All
Date Posted: 11:26:49 11/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
i woudl say i had sex with her she thought she was getting a promotion she asked me but i kept it moving,
So you are going to demote her through kiss and tell?
Hmmmmmmmmm James Hewit, Princess Di ee ex boyfren sef lie.
Subject: Re: women and men who sleep with others to get jobs
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 09:04:34 11/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
She was actually given the job because she is bi-lingual...and also the chiarman of the occasion is her uncle..
But apart from that.. she is one of salones brightest young ladies.
She is involved in a host of positive programs geared towards uplifting and forwarding the youth of our poor country..
She is and has always been a lady.
Her blog.
http://switsalone.blogspot.com/
http://blogs.visitsierraleone.org/
Her Profile.
http://www.blogger.com/profile/02436395323856435096
Her postings.
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/search_results_posts.asp?SearchID=20071130145541&KW=
Her work.
http://www.sierravisions.org/portal/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=1
Next time ask you fooooool...
This is one of the few ones we are proud to call a woman of substance..at 23.
You lucky they said we cant cheeeeerrrrh nah ya dumbeh..
Subject: Re: women and men who sleep with others to get jobs
From: sure negro
To: All
Date Posted: 14:00:15 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: sure@msn.com
Entered From: gate3-norfolk.nmci.navy.mil at 138.162.0.43
Message:
yes. i ran through her as well as a bunch fo guys my age in the states. you think you are a gangsta on this forum. just because you are related to her. dont worry i have tapes of her i woudl release them. ask her whom she did on cam i bought the tapes of them
Subject: Re: women and men who sleep with others to get jobs
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 14:13:54 11/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Well try dey..
me don talk me piece.. you can continue on your crusade..
I just wanted forumites to grasp a picture of the wonderful kid she is, without your tint...
Subject: Re: women and men who sleep with others to get jobs
From: NOR TO YOU BIZNESS
To: All
Date Posted: 08:13:04 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: brabanxx@aol.com
Entered From: static-216-83-121-130.sniparpa.net at 216.83.121.130
Message:
Mr. Independent obsever:
Despite appeals from the moderator for us not to be personal, you have again crossed that line. You have to put up or shut up. If you have any evidence to support your claim about the co-MC you do not have to bring it to this forum either. I will urge you to take it directly to the newsprints in Freetown. What you did or did not to her is not our business. You are also part of the social problems in Sa Leone. Enough with the CGBC-CNN-BBC oh oh !!!!!!!!!!! It's all good some of us are hiding behind different monikers on this forum. This smear campaign has to stop. I guess the other two male MCs have to sleep with somebody to berth a role at the innaugurations. Instead of commending her for a job well done, you have to throw a red herring in her kudos. Please take your bench and Go.
Subject: I am taking you back mamory.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 23:23:43 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SICeYEwWyQ&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1imu4-sHZE&feature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdSeTKzJOEw&feature=related
Subject: Re: I am taking you back mamory.
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 23:59:52 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
That was indeed taking us back memory. Thanks
Subject: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: Aminata Dumbuya
To: All
Date Posted: 23:01:49 11/29/07 ()
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I think it's high time we started thinking of a female president. I have read the history of Sierra Leone with sadness as men with large sticks, ravenous appetites and murderous instincts have bloodied and stripped naked, Mother Sierra Leone for 40 years making it one of the most hellish places places on earth today. I have the greatest regard for our menfolk and acknowledge with awe the paternalistic society that is Sierra Leone. The role of the Sierra Leone man in the shaming of the country is really egregious. I hope that women will tie their lappas and step up to the plate. We have a role to play in the development of our sweet country and we should defy conventional wisdom and the condescension of KINI and KOTHO to do so.
I honestly believe that there will be a female president in the next 10 years. I am as sure of this as another Candid Opinion forum ban and prodigal welcome. We the Estrogen Brigade are practising and busting our chops for the big dance. We want to govern Sierra Leone our way, with smarts, motherly love and in high heels.
I wish you all a lovely weekend.
Aminata.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 15:09:06 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: saigobe@lanset.com
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Aminata,
Dr. Janette Saidu and Binta Bah are two young Sierra Leonean who have espressed their intention to compete for the Presidency in 2012. Contact me at email Yaya@toadface.com
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: TK
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Date Posted: 16:07:41 11/30/07 ()
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Which party?
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 18:13:32 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: saigobe@lanset.com
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TK,
I have spoken more with Janette but she did not say whether it would be SLPP OR APC. I believe they are both serious about leading Sierra Leone. Five years is not tha long. So they stand a good chance with a new political party and especially if President Koroma and APC mess things up in Sierra Leone. I want APC to succeed so we can finally show that multiparty system is the way to go in Africa.
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: TK
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Date Posted: 00:48:34 12/01/07 ()
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Are these two people in the diaspora? More information on the two will be appreciated.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: Prophecy
To: All
Date Posted: 12:08:08 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: JAMES@HOTMAIL.COM
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UNITED NATION IS WORKING ON THAT, THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE STRATEGICLY PLACED A WOMAN(ZAINAB BANGURA) AS THE HEAD OF FOREIGN AFFAIR.SHE WILL BE BUSY WITHIN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS PROMOTING HER INTEREST WHICH SHE HAD MANIFESTED BEFORE I.E FIRST FEMALE PRESIDENT OF SIERRA LEONE WHICH IS COINCIDENTALLY THE UNITED NATIONS ADGENDA FOR SIERRA LEONE(I.E ZAINAB BANGURA FOR PRESIDENT AS IN THE CASE OF LIBERIA).
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: fact
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Date Posted: 13:03:32 11/30/07 ()
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This is an attempt to create tension between ernest and zainab. una lef dis bad art. salone piple too evil.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: independent view
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Date Posted: 13:48:14 11/30/07 ()
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Are you saying that Ernest would be stupid enough not to know that Zainab will challenge him for the leadership? This lady had expressed leadership wish prior to becoming foreign minister when she formed her party. I would be surprised if EBK is not sensible enough to know that keeping her in that position for two long will only create a problem for him at some point in the future. Why groom a potential leadership threat? My advice to EBK is for him to reshuffle his cabinet so as to avoid ministers becoming too strong and with the view to posing a threat.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: TK
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Date Posted: 12:50:06 11/30/07 ()
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My prophecy - there will be a female president but she will not be Zainab Bangura.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: Prophecy
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Date Posted: 14:14:54 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: JAMES@HOTMAIL.COM
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Message:
TK YOU WATCH AND SEE AS EVENTS WILL START UNRAVELLING IN ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE YEARS TIME
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: MR SIERRA LEONE
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Date Posted: 09:41:36 11/30/07 ()
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I have always thought that, there are many missing LINKS in our Sierra Leone politics. One thing for sure I did not put my finger on, is a strong female Leadership on the helm. Thinking about it, we do have a hand full of capable Women. Not that the men have been capable, so what difference will it make?
Maybe this is it.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 11:50:43 11/30/07 ()
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We've had strong and successful women leaders in our society.
Mammy Yoko comes to mind. Madam Ella Koblo-Gulama etc.
So Sis Amina, you can count on me to vote. But you'll need to show the same strength or better than Mammy Yoko...jus kidding.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: fact
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Date Posted: 13:01:53 11/30/07 ()
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madam yoko and gulama were strong in the south. they would not have stood a chance in the north of sierra leone. they were not national leaders.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: Yaya Fanusie
To: All
Date Posted: 18:18:42 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: saigobe@lanset.com
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Fact by 11/30/2007:
Get Lost!!!! with your tribalistic view. Madam Koblo-Gulama married a Temne man. some of you are just damn sick. Stupid fool!
Yaya Fanusie
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: fact
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Date Posted: 03:34:34 12/01/07 ()
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take it easy waraba. I said she cannot be a chief in the north, and that's a fact. we need to work on that, we need to change the machismo in the north and the east so that the women would compete favourably.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: Pedrodacintra
To: All
Date Posted: 07:01:36 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
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Well this is something I can't rule out as it seems to have become a gradual modern day trend.But baby for that to happen you need to tie your lappas 'tight' and don't forget to have a 'trosis' underneath,be a graduate from the bondo bush and make sure you have a strong husband- I mean a real man or man man who does not freeze nder pressure.Your campaign should start from 'ROGBAN' where you need the approvals of the BOMPOSSEHS,YA LIMAMYS,BOMWARAS,the QUEENS,the KANDEHS,the GBOLFONKS,the KAIBAHS the WANDUNIS and the WUNIBOMS.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: Kakua
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Date Posted: 05:00:00 11/30/07 ()
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Aminata, i totally agree with you. we men are responsible for all the evil things that are happening in this world. we have been in charge since time memorial and all we have had so far is depravity, killings of innocent people, lying to the public for selfish ends etc etc. i care less if women takes over the world because i don't believe any man in any leadership role until i see the evidence on the ground with my own eyes. we are all a bunch of bull shits!!!
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: independent
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Date Posted: 03:43:21 11/30/07 ()
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Would you support a female president regardless of any party of her choice?
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: A.K Jet
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Date Posted: 07:16:51 11/30/07 ()
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I think a female president will not a bad idea, but it all depends on her ability to rule a country which have been solely ruled by Kothors and Kinis. Also, what role would her husband play.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: Compatriot
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Date Posted: 08:43:39 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: thenewsletter@hotmail.com
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Message:
He can look after the house and the grandchildren.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: Ishmael Yillah
To: All
Date Posted: 00:48:46 11/30/07 ()
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Ms. Dumbuya
You will get my full support because I think women would do better than men in terms of delivering social amenities to the poor. Women are caring, compassionate by nature and i am sure they can improve salone in the shortest time possible.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: ok now
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Date Posted: 04:07:47 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: oknow@msn.com
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I woudl support her as long as i get a chance to get right with her in the presidential office. always been a sick dream of mine. i think if she runs for one of the two main parties and she is qualified and is a strong leader though with a good plan and dreams i woudl support her
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: TWO Sense
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Date Posted: 10:28:20 11/30/07 ()
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I think a woman president would be the best thing ever happen in Sierra Leone. The women in Sierra Leone are very resourceful and knows how to manage money. She can run a small business, and still have money to bring home for the family.
In order for a woman to become president in Sierra Leone, we must first try to change the mindset of the people in Sierra Leone especially the men. The men have to give the women respect and chance to have equal playing field in society. I can give you many examples, but I will share one thing that happen to me in Sierra Leone. After living in the United States for over 20 years, I went back to Sierra Leone to start a business and help my people. My first encounter was renting a house to live. I went up to the Land Lord who was a man. I told him that I want to rent his house, and money was not a problem. I can pay him 2 years up front if that what he wants. You know what he told me? I needed a man to come with me to rent the house or he will not rent the house to me. Now do you know how I felt? I wanted to pack up and leave. I am a single, educated, ambitious woman, save up my money to go back to Sierra Leone and help my fellow Sierra Leoneans so that I can create jobs to feed their family. Some old man is telling me that I needed a man in my life just to rent a house. That was very very insulting to say the least.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: Jack
To: All
Date Posted: 11:29:44 11/30/07 ()
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That just shows how weak you are. One blow and you ran away. The "Some old man is telling me that I needed a man in my life just to rent a house" do not own all the rentable houses in F/T.
Subject: Re: A FEMALE PRESIDENT FOR SIERRA LEONE.
From: TWO Sense
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Date Posted: 16:54:14 11/30/07 ()
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Trust me JACK am not a weak woman. Maybe you have some weak women in your family that you control, but am not one. I stayed and am helping my brothers and sisters. I can go on and on as how my Sierra Leone sisters from the Diaspora are been treated in Sierra Leone.
I will tell my sisters from the Diaspora to think twice before going to Sierra Leone to do business or look for job, because some of the things that you are not accustom to do get a job you will have to do to land the job. Have you every hard about the night interview???
Subject: I wanna Love you.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:29:24 11/29/07 ()
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Oh!
Subject: They missing-out.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:27:29 11/29/07 ()
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Mama Africa
Subject: Enough, Bambay
From: Enough, Bambay
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Date Posted: 20:17:23 11/29/07 ()
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Bambay, I know a new moon is not too far away, but please put a stop to your one million postings a minute
Subject: Re: Enough, Bambay
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 21:28:37 11/29/07 ()
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Subject: Re: Enough, Bambay
From: lol
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Date Posted: 23:07:42 11/29/07 ()
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that was funny - the Gregory song, appropiate for Enough, Bambay.
Subject: Re: Enough, Bambay
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:14:44 11/29/07 ()
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Subject: Re: Enough, Bambay
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:13:38 11/29/07 ()
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Subject: Business-mindedness
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 20:00:39 11/29/07 ()
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Flashback : When will Sierra Leoneans learn self -reliance ?
Written by Foday Mansaray
Thursday, 29 November 2007
It is incumbent upon us to criticize constructively when we talk about real issues affecting majority of the Poor and Voiceless Sierra Leoneans
We must put some amount of seriousness when discussing issues on the COCORIOKO forum. You cannot play politics with lives of voiceless people. You are here in the U.S driving nice cars and at the very least, living a decent or average life. You must say thanks to the Almighty. Do you know that you cannot even buy a bag of rice even today in Sierra Leone if you don't have connections to the SLPP Distribution Agents? What happened to the Free Market Economy? It is ok to support a Political Party of our choice but we must support with conscious intent our ability to bring value to the table. If we blindly support these various political parties and cannot breathe fresh air into the political atmosphere in Sierra Leone , all of these writings and effort from all patriotic Sierra Leoneans will be meaningless.
It is therefore necessary for forumits to put their points across intellectually , because at the end of the day we are fighting for the same cause. If we in the Diaspora do not contribute to redirect Sierra Leone's future we are surely destined for tougher economic times ahead. I urged all of us to stay focussed and steadfast to continue to press on the Issue of good Governance and Stewardship in those on whom Power is entrusted .
I am coming out Publicly because it is my belief that the SLPP government will not help Sierra Leone and our Course because they had plenty of opportunity to demonstrate that they are serious about bringing meaningful change and progress to Sierra Leone. In Business Law , Lawyers will quote the Agreement and the Sprit of the Agreement. The SLPP government has NOT demonstrated willingness to uphold the Agreement or the spirit of the Agreement entrusted by Sierra Leonean when they were sworn in 2002. Therefore , We the people request to enter a final judgment to vacate Berewa and SLPP on AUGUST 11 20007 and this judgement must stand with no further Petition ,Adjournment OR second round of voting.
Sierra Leone received more aid from Britain than any other country coming out of war in recent memory... This is a disgrace to Sierra Leone for outgoing Chief Tony Blair to visit Sierra Leone and never enter our capital city , Freetown. One has to wonder with all these economist, scientist, lawyers, accountants and engineers why we are not able to implement most of these knowledge to benefit Sierra Leone. Are we xxxxxx or are we simply our own worst enemy ? .Is it too much education or not enough Patriotism ? We need to take these issues head on to change the destiny of Sierra Leone. Do we need to be taught in early education civic duties and patriotism like Nigeria and Ghana ?.
When is Sierra Leone going to learn the lessons of self reliance? The main reason businessses Within Sierra Leone and International Communities are supporting Hon. Ernest Koroma is that the entire civilized world has come to grips with reality that the Chief Executive Officer, like him (Presidential Front Running Candidate) , has demonstrated tremendous abilities to manage and grow a successful business . He can make a better Head of state in Sierra Leone , just like one of the biggest city in the world is led by a Mayor' Bloomberg , a Multi -Billionaire himself .He became Mayor at a time when the city's finances after 9/11 were in disrepair. He has demonstrated his business skills and today New York City is booming .
Another case of a business executive being in power is the NJ Governor and lately, the newly -appointed British Prime Minister. The International Community today is leaning towards business leaders who understand how to keep their economies going , with little reliance on international aid and other forms of subsidies . That is what Sierra Leone needs to take advantage of at this critical moment , instead of continuing on the path of receiving hand- outs which has caused us to be dubbed the world's poorest country.
FODAY MANSARAY
Concerned Sierra Leoneans for the Restoration of Democracy.
Subject: Re: Business-mindedness
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:04:02 11/29/07 ()
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Message:
I found it here.
Was this ever posted here?
Hmmmmmmmm!
Subject: Sierra Leone's super star Vicky Fornah rocks Canada
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 19:52:59 11/29/07 ()
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Vicky Fornah in Action..., Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada.
Exactly 15 days ago , the Sierra Leone Nationals Association of Manitoba, SALNAM, brought the Sierra Leone award- winning artist Vicky Fornah to the people of Manitoba , Canada
It was Vicky's first time ever performing in Winnipeg, Canada and Vicky rose to the occasion by showing no sign that she was a stranger .She gave a fantastic performance in the presence of hundreds of people of different nationalities. Earlier, the audience was entertained to Vicky�s musical video clip, followed by African cultural performers from Sierra Leone, Sudan and Liberia
Subject: A good play to labo?
From: fiti fata
To: All
Date Posted: 19:37:52 11/29/07 ()
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Hi to you all..
Subject: Information Minister launches new satellite station in Sierr
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 19:35:21 11/29/07 ()
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NEWS : Local News
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Information Minister launches new satellite station in Sierra Leone
By Vidal Boltman
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The minister of Information and Broadcasting Alhaji IB Kargbo on Wednesday 28th November launched a new satellite station, GVT in a press briefing held at their Wilberforce Street Office. This has now allowed GTV; the revolutionary satellite Company to provide paid TV to homes and business centres throughout the country.
Delivering his statement Alhaji Ibrahim Ben Kargbo welcomed GTV and their new investment in Sierra Leone, adding that we have seen the difference competition has made to prices in the cell phone market.
The Head of GTV Development for Africa, Ronnie Andrews said they are launching all over Africa and Sierra Leone is one of the most exciting markets they have seen as there is so much potential for investment, adding that entertainment is not just for the elite, but also for everyone. He said he looks forward to working with Sierra Leoneans to make GVT a success by bringing the best international and African programmes to customers at a price they can afford.
The vice chairman of YES TV who is also the official agent for GVT in Sierra Leone, Dr. K.B Obai Kamara said Sierra Leoneans love entertainment but they have been deprived of football for the past few months but now, premier league is back to stay. Dr. Kamara said they are determined to make world class football news and entertainment affordable to everyone in Sierra Leone.
Samantha Bolton said GVT is launching in nine African countries simultaneously and intend to cover the entire continent by the end of 2008. She also disclosed that GVT invocative model target shows 80% of the Premiership League Football matches. She disclosed that GVT will have offices throughout the country and will also create employment for many Sierra Leoneans.
Subject: KABS KANU, LET'S TALK ABOUT YOU AND STATE HOUSE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 18:36:27 11/29/07 ()
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Kabs Kanu, The grapevine is aflame with rumors that you have been appointed to become the new pen-pusher for the current State House occupant, President Ernest Koroma. So far, you have held your cards close to your chest by refusing to attach credence to these rumors. Although we clash from time to time because of our various political persuasions, the folksiness of being members of the Cocorioko family definitely obliges you to either DISMISS or CONFIRM the rumors on this forum.
Needless to say, I am sure you know the fact that a presidential Press Secretary can be likened to a well-trained soldier who is ready to assume a battle field posture at a moment's notice. The ability to write in a felicitous tone during one moment only to be stern, or even somber in the next tone, will tax your intellect in the next five years. If the opposition makes our democracy excitable by being unforgiving, you may even need to deploy your auxiliary powers of the mind by defending both the President and yourself against some of the fire directed at you as a result of the press releases you write. I will not be shocked to see you and Brother Jusu Saffa locked in a war of wars as the thermometer records a higher democratic heat. That is what makes democracy work, and God willing, your intellect will stand up to the challenge.
If it is indeed true that you are Sierra Leone's new Press Secretary, I can only wish you the greenest of God's blessings as you prepare to write for the First Gentleman of the Republic of Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: KABS KANU, LET'S TALK ABOUT YOU AND STATE HOUSE
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 22:12:36 11/29/07 ()
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Beautiful generosity from the man with the gift of gab. I am hoping that some of the SLPP Raray boys on the forum will learn the art of political sophistication from the one and only Bra E. Opposition does not simply mean OPPOSE EVERYTHING, GOOD OR BAD! For example: APC thinks electricity is good for the economy.....We are SLPP and we are in opposition and so therefore Electricity must be awful! Electric light is dangerous to the country's economic health!
At times, it won't kill you to say: Godspeed pal! I still want your job and will continue to fight you in the marketplace of ideas. However, congrats for this or that....
Subject: KABS TO STATE HOUSE: LOOK WHO'S WAITING
From: WINDS OF WAR
To: All
Date Posted: 15:31:09 11/29/07 ()
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Subject: Re: KABS TO STATE HOUSE: LOOK WHO'S WAITING
From: fact
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Date Posted: 13:11:12 11/30/07 ()
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looks like madam is ready for battle with that solid and tight headtie.
Subject: Re: KABS TO STATE HOUSE: LOOK WHO'S WAITING
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 22:14:58 11/29/07 ()
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Who the hell is that? I really don't know!
Subject: Re: KABS TO STATE HOUSE: LOOK WHO'S WAITING
From: WINDS OF WAR
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Date Posted: 00:07:33 11/30/07 ()
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Don't try to know her, you will live happier ever after.
Subject: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: Sylvester Johnny
To: All
Date Posted: 14:14:51 11/29/07 ()
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Does anyone know if EBK and VP have declared their assets? The declaraion of asset by all the key leaders will send a strong signal about the President's determination to tackle corruption.
Just curious!
Subject: Re: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: DYLAN SOGIE-THOMAS
To: All
Date Posted: 18:40:10 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: sogiethomas@yahoo.com
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Our president will prove to us that he want to fight corruption by declaring his assets.Every senior officials should declare.If EBK fails to declare before 100days in office then we should doubt his zero-tollerance campaign
Asset Declaration- Our president made a promise that every senior government officials shall declare their assets before and after service to the nation. I wonder how many officials have declared their assets. It would be good if every senior government officials can declare (1) immoveable properties and showing evidence of ownership (2) moveable properties that can be registered eg. Cars (3) the value of shares, securities and the declaration should include assets of the officials as well as his family (spouse and children).
Our president should ensure that false data should be treated as criminals and punished accordingly. He should remove government officials who failed to declare their assets.
Subject: Re: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
To: All
Date Posted: 09:45:25 11/30/07 ()
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"Our president should ensure that false data should be treated as criminals and punished accordingly. He should remove government officials who failed to declare their assets."
At the end of each such form, there should be a declaration made under PENALTY OF PERJURY that he statements in the declaration are true and corect under the laws of sierra leone and that the affiant does understand that the provision of false statements would subject them to prosecution for perjury and dismissal from office and possible criminal penalties.
As a matter of fact, EVERY form filled out by anyone where a declaration of veracity of the information contained therein is necessary, said declaration MUST be made under penalty of perjury. That includes forms filled out for Passports, Drivers Licenses, declrations in goods manifests ariving at the customs.
And thats the way it should be.
Subject: Re: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: Assets
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Date Posted: 05:04:43 11/30/07 ()
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Yes they have already DECLARED their assets before they were approved by parliament.
Subject: Re: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 14:35:55 11/29/07 ()
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If you nor pull grey wiriwiri yate..
You go pull am before they declare..
I would have thought before most ofthe the new ministers got approved.. SLPP parliamentarians should have brought this up, or EBK encouraged it..
--Disclaimer:
Grey wiriwiri joke is just that.. a joke..
Not exactly talking about yours or anyones..just an expression of how long it would take for EBK and the talangba squard to come clean..
Subject: Re: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 15:31:46 11/29/07 ()
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Cocorioko nah funni place..
Here was last month we talked about bondo, clitoris, en what ever...yaynenah..
Man talk but some hair.. i got sensored..
It seems the axe of he lord falleth unevenlly....
There is a certain bais..
I would advice the post be deleted.. it lost it bite, and i am sure its byte.
Next i would be Banned for saying pubic in public.
What a charade..
Subject: Re: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: SHABBA
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Date Posted: 22:48:16 11/29/07 ()
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I guess the double standard in this forum goes without saying �not surprising�. Frankly, I was offended by the bundu debate about a month ago, because it was too graphic and some people took the topic to a different level, but were was the outcry for the so-called "kids" on this forum. It makes me to believe that the bundu topic was raw meat, excuse the pun, which created excitement and a lot of buzz, so it was o.k. for the graphic details not be censored.
What do you expect from a forum were �most� participants seem to be inconsistent on most issues. Say one thing one day, and mean something else the next.
Subject: Re: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: Anthony Sisay
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Date Posted: 17:13:52 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
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Candid Opinion,
There are kids out here; so you have to watch your language and reframe from using insulting languages from people you've never met just because you disagree with their postings.
The Moderator has done an excellent job by scraping off some of your outputs. Don�t get annoyed its good to be disciplined sometimes. I also think that we lack some level of discipline in SL and that we seriously need some.
Thanks, AS.
Subject: Re: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 19:26:20 11/29/07 ()
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Shove it mate.
There are kids here?
Should they be here..?
Sometime humans perplexed me with the sheer ignorance..
I said pubic, why that is a bad word (A valid part of the anatomy) beats me..?
I did not use any insulting language ole chap..
I said we will have to wait till our hair below turns grey before EBK and his banana bunch declare a single kobo..how is that insulting?
Why cant we talk like adults in an adult setting..?
Why the hell are we so prudish and holy as though?
Cant for the life of me understand this human phenomenon..
Subject: Re: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 15:31:06 11/29/07 ()
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Cocorioko nah funni place..
Here was last month we talked about bondo, clitoris, en what ever...yaynenah..
Man talk but some hair.. i got sensored..
It seems the axe of he lord falleth unevenlly....
There is a certain bais..
I would advice the post be deleted.. it lost it bite, and i am sure its byte.
Subject: Re: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: Onliner
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Date Posted: 16:15:59 11/29/07 ()
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The bondo debate was actually very educative.
Subject: Re: HAS EBK AND SUMANA DECLARED THEIR ASSETS
From: Breath
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Date Posted: 14:26:24 11/29/07 ()
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Don't hold your breath regarding this issue.
Subject: Mohamed Gassama
From: Amadu Berete
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Date Posted: 14:01:36 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: dele25@yahoo.com
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Would anyone tell me what happened to M Gassama of Maryland and fellow Makeni Boy.
Subject: A FAREWELL TO KABS
From: FRUED
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Date Posted: 12:37:12 11/29/07 ()
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A FAREWELL TO KABS
Forget can we not, how it all began
Four years ago, down memory lane.
While sleepless nights taunted innocent dreams
Spams and mammy cusses littered the forum
Give up you didnft to the test of will
With valor you clung to the vision you believed
Over the years the path to the truth you blazed
Keeping the diaspora abreast with events of distant home
Penny you received not, yet patriotically you served
A community that sometimes wasnft so kind.
For admirers of yours and detractors alike
Therefs perhaps a lesson or two that can be learned.
Cucumbers don't grow from strawberry plants
What man ever sows shall he surely reap.
As the time of harvest of your efforts draws nigh
Heavenly speed to you on behalf of us all
Keep up the good job you so passionately have done
Warming the heart of the mother we all love
You will be missed, so please keep in touch
Have a safe trip, and good luck my friend.
Subject: Re: A FAREWELL TO KABS
From: Oneness
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Date Posted: 23:25:35 11/29/07 ()
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So wonderfully said!
Subject: Re: A FAREWELL TO KABS
From: Saloneboy
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Date Posted: 16:51:23 11/29/07 ()
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A wonderful poem! It is written by a visionary.
I only want to thank God for Reverend Kabs Kanu and family including all his friends. Sir, we all wish you God's richest blessings in your new assignment.
Go Rev. Kabs Kanu. God will guide and protect you.
Subject: Is Komba Kambo just unlucky with the authorities?
From: Basco
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Date Posted: 11:53:11 11/29/07 ()
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When Idrissa and others are roaming the States free from the long arms of the law?
Subject: Re: Is Komba Kambo just unlucky with the authorities?
From: james
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Date Posted: 17:55:25 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: jamisee@yahoo.com
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Kambo will not be deported because the immigration board (ICE) denied his green card as authorized by the Texas court. The court has the last say not immigration. Immigration's denial to issue him his green card is a starting point to appeal.
Subject: Re: Is Komba Kambo just unlucky with the authorities?
From: Tabaca
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Date Posted: 12:09:28 11/29/07 ()
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Yes sir. The Good Guy Kambo is just unlucky. He had left the NPRC long before they committed their worst crimes.
He will beat this "rap"..... I know.
Subject: Re: Is Komba Kambo just unlucky with the authorities?
From: Immigration Lawyer
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Date Posted: 14:59:52 11/29/07 ()
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He will beat this "rap"..... I know.
_________________________________________________________________
WISHFUL THINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!NAH HE WONT
Subject: Re: Is Komba Kambo just unlucky with the authorities?
From: Tabaca
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Date Posted: 09:39:13 11/30/07 ()
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He will and some of us are praying for him - a brother.
You the pessimistic bastard with a perpetual jealousy because of your overall inept nature can go screw yourself.
Subject: Is Kabbs Kanu EBK's Press Secretary ?
From: Forum Police
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Date Posted: 10:32:13 11/29/07 ()
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I mistakenly deleted the whole thread while removing a hateful and defamatory post under this thread. Sorry about that.We are restoring the thread .
Subject: Re: Is Kabbs Kanu EBK's Press Secretary ?
From: Kalos
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Date Posted: 10:34:43 11/29/07 ()
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Culled from the Cocorioko Newspaper:
"The position of Director of Communication at State House and Press Secretary to the President has been filled by an
experienced and outstanding journalist from the U.S, but a formal announcement will be made when he arrives in Freetown
this week for consultations with President Koroma and the Minister of Information and Communications, Mr. I.B. Kargbo, and
to take up his appointment."
Subject: Re: Is Kabbs Kanu EBK's Press Secretary ?
From: Issa Kamara
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Date Posted: 10:50:45 11/29/07 ()
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With all the noise about APC in New Jersey the only position is Press Secretary? Foday Mansaray has no credentials and Alex Mansaray is boisterous and empty. These people lied to Ernest Koroma when he came here begging for money. Victor Foh waited for a week, nothing. The only survivor is the unholy Rev Kabs Kanu who is the propaganda machine for APC. All the same, he managed to attend FBC twenty nine years ago( I hope his degree has not expired). The only decent work he can do here is teaching and pastorig. Some of us are not impressed because if a Rev could be a perpetual lier and be rewarded then the end justifies the means. Ay! Hell is waiting for him. What about Bubu Kamara who is vacillating like a political pendulum? Ah sorry for Salone. Broke people in power.
Subject: Re: Is Kabbs Kanu EBK's Press Secretary ?
From: JOE BLOW
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Date Posted: 10:59:20 11/29/07 ()
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Mr Issa, all you assumptions on this forum are false.You are the kinds of Sierra Leonean who envy others. Try to post your resume and lets evaluate your
educational standing.If you are the Issa Kamara I know.You are a drug dealer and a pimp. Kabbs hold a master degree here in the US.Mr Foday Mansaray is currently employed as Sr. Vice President with a reputable Mortgage and Savings Bank in control of over $375 million a year mortgage back securities.By the way,when was the last time you earned 200,000 in one year?I am confident he has enough qualification to become head of compliance to run a strong and viable Bank and that was why he was hired.Mr Alex Mansaray is also a well Qualified Township and country planner certified by Rutgers University.He has sat on the franklin township planning Board for 3 Years. He has become a force to recond with.
Wish them well and shut up. If any of these gentlemen wants to be employed in freetown, they will get anything they wish for themselves
Subject: Re: Is Kabbs Kanu EBK's Press Secretary ?
From: Fen Plaba
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Date Posted: 11:01:48 11/29/07 ()
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Sticks and stones and the Rev's bones?
Issa, thou malicious slinger....
Kabs, if indeed you are the new Boss of all media in Salone, congrats and the most wonderful felicitations to you. You will be in a great position to bring to the Prez's attention, the concerns of the various voices of the forum: SLPP, APC, Youtubers, etc.
Those who love and respect you will be thrilled...
and those who hate you and are on their way to hell, wearing gasoline pants, will continue to rage at you.
Good Luck sir!
Subject: Re: Is Kabbs Kanu EBK's Press Secretary ?
From: Somerset Man
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Date Posted: 11:06:06 11/29/07 ()
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Issa, you are not fit to untie the Rev's shoestrings. Kabbs Kanu is overqualified for any position in Sierra Leone.BA Sierra Leone .MA USA and Law degree UK.You are just jealous of him.We who know him respect him a lot because of his ability .Kabbs is also one of the few Sierra Leone ministers of the religion I can eat anything for,a faithful family man , faithful to his wife, church and to us . You are also not fit to stand anywhere near Foday Mansaray, the senior vice-president of a bank in New Jersey. You will never live in the kind of house Foday Mansaray has.Oh, maybe, you can be his houseboy there. The best way to be like them is not to be jealous of them ,but to work hard to reach where they are.
Subject: Re: Is Kabbs Kanu EBK's Press Secretary ?
From: Liko
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Date Posted: 11:09:04 11/29/07 ()
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I have known Rev. Kanu for many, many years. He is my senior and I have the utmost respect of him. Yes. He is a teacher, a pastor and a writer. As Somerset has already intimated, he hold a Masters degree in Special Education. Indeed, the SA. Lone Gov. cannot even match his current pay as a teacher, including other benefits he currently receives.
If the information is true that he has accepted the position as State House Press Secretary, then he is only doing it out of genuine interest to improve developments in Sierra Leone.
Therefore, couldn't we just congratulate him in advance and wish him all the best, instead of bashing him
Subject: Re: Is Kabbs Kanu EBK's Press Secretary ?
From: Independent View
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Date Posted: 11:14:24 11/29/07 ()
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"The Sierra Leone Government cannot even match his current pay as a teacher, including other benefits he currently receives".
Similarly, there are benefits that the Sierra Leone Government can offer that the US Government would not offer him. Did the US Government provide him with free accommodation, a driver, a government vehicle and workers who would be keeping his compound clean and do the household chores for his wife and family? It is possible that he would have access to as many drivers something he would not be able to take advantage of in the US.
Subject: Re: Is Kabbs Kanu EBK's Press Secretary ?
From: Joseph Sherman
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Date Posted: 11:26:19 11/29/07 ()
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Issa,
You are the people that Sierra Leone need to rehabilitate from the Pull-Him -Down (PHD) syndrome which has eaten the fabric of progressive Sierra Leoneans. First and foremost, requesting for the credentials of people like Rev. Kabbs and Foday Mansaray depicts the calibre of person you are-ignorant, inqusitive and primitive. What are your contributions in Sierra Leone that you question the credibility or been bashful of people reputation? To give you an insight of who Rev Kabbs Kanu as I knew him in the early eighties in Liberia, when Sierra leoneans and West Africans where scrambling to utilize their hard earned education due to economic instability in their respective countries, Rev. Kabbs kanu was one of the few Sierra Leoneans that was employed in the Monrovia Consolidated School System (MCSS) where he was highly respected for his intelligence, descipline and intergrity. So, for you to question his credibility denotes the type of mentality you possess. As fro Mr. Foday Mansaray, even though I have not met him personally, his activities and contributions in urshering a democratically government admired by the international community and the subregion is indicative of the calibre of person he is-capable of doing anything positive for Sierra Leone. There is saying "if you start pointing a finger at some one, remember four fingers are pointing back at you." If you cannot contribute in the development of Sierra Leone, keep your mouth shut and learn from the good deeds of others.
Subject: Re: Is Kabbs Kanu EBK's Press Secretary ?
From: Kalos
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Date Posted: 12:08:23 11/29/07 ()
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Message:
Komaneh, kathegheh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Subject: African Children
From: sheku kallon
To: All
Date Posted: 10:30:22 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: shekukal@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-105-124-181.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 76.105.124.181
Message:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thkIRxwuFQo
Music about the plight of Africa's children
Subject: Re: African Children
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:39:05 11/29/07 ()
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Message:
Even better..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJx-Ih6gOSI
Subject: Re: African Children
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:32:51 11/29/07 ()
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Message:
Salone Music..
A condensed and candid look..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phMN8uMQYlY
Subject: GOD IS FOR EVERYONE
From: JOE BLOW
To: All
Date Posted: 00:15:06 11/29/07 ()
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Message:
Mr Issa, all you assumptions on this forum are false.You are the kinds of Sierra Leonean who envy others. Try to post your resume and lets evaluate your
educational standing.If you are the Issa Kamara I know.You are a drug dealer and a pimp. Kabbs hold a master degree here in the US.Mr Foday Mansaray is currently employed as Sr. Vice President with a reputable Mortgage and Savings Bank in control of over $375 million a year mortgage back securities.By the way,when was the last time you earned 200,000 in one year?I am confident he has enough qualification to become head of compliance to run a strong and viable Bank and that was why he was hired.Mr Alex Mansaray is also a well Qualified Township and country planner certified by Rutgers University.He has sat on the franklin township planning Board for 3 Years. He has become a force to recond with.
Wish them well and shut up. If any of these gentlemen wants to be employed in freetown, they will get anything they wish for themselves.
Dont kid yourself.
Subject: Re: GOD IS FOR EVERYONE
From: kamara
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Date Posted: 05:23:08 11/29/07 ()
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Not to disagree with your statements and validification of the individuals ' qualifications and credentials. The quqlifications required for a central bank employee differ from those in mortgage banking. You do not need a degree to be a mortgage banker in New Jersey. To be a governor in a central bank, you need masters and a above eventhough a plethora of degree does not mean , you are a better banker.
Subject: Re: GOD IS FOR EVERYONE
From: JOE BLOW
To: All
Date Posted: 08:19:21 11/29/07 ()
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Do you know what it takes to become a CPA or CMB .Do you know the equivalent of those designation if better than a masters degree?
Subject: Re: GOD IS FOR EVERYONE
From: kamara
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Date Posted: 05:05:29 11/30/07 ()
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I actually do know what it takes to be a CPA . It is more work than an MBA. What is your point now. As I say a degree does not necesarily make you a better worker. Work experience is a better a judge.
Subject: Deputy Finance Minister Walks out on Statistics Launching in
From: Bampia J. Bundu
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Date Posted: 23:01:48 11/28/07 ()
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Deputy Finance Minister Walks out on Statistics Launching in Sierra Leone
Statistics Sierra Leone has launched the Sierra Leone Integrated Household Survey for Sierra Leone (SLHS) and the Core Welfare Indicator Questionnaire (CWIQ) Survey Report. However, an interesting incident in the Hall was when the Deputy Minister of Finance & Economic Development, Dr. Richard Konteh who represented the Minister of Finance and Economic Development, refused to make any statement when he was asked to give the key note address instead he abruptly said, "I cannot read my statement because there is no report to be launched" and proceeded to rise from his seat and leave the Hall where the Launching was held.
Awareness Times followed him outside the hall and questioned him about his bizarre action to which he responded that he was a honest man and since according to him, he said that he did not see a full report but only "an abstract of the report" and as far as he was concerned, an abstract was not a report.
He further revealed to this medium that he took the action of walking out as a means of showing that he would not lie to the people of Sierra Leone by saying that he had launched a survey report when the reality, according to him, was that the report was not even ready and only an abstract had been hurriedly prepared.
Earlier, speaking at the launching, the Development Secretary Madam Konah Koroma noted that over the years they had witnessed series of statistical reports launched by the Statistics office alongside the Government of Sierra Leone.
This she said was to fast-track Government�s efforts to meet the Millennium Development Goals. She stated also that as they launched these most recent survey reports, it was the hope that the report will help one way or the other in pushing forward Government�s development aims.
She appealed to participants to ensure that they contribute meaningfully toward the programme. The Statistician General, Professor Lawrence Kamara stated that the main objective of the exercise had been to collect high quality, credible and objective data on population and socio-economic characteristics of households for monitoring development performance
The major findings, he noted are summarized and ordered by relevant chapters of the report. Professor Kamara disclosed that it is the desire of the Government of Sierra Leone to give good quality accessible and accountable statistic survey and also he maintained that the statistics survey is done after every five years as it was last conducted in 2003 and it was designed to monitor the alleviation of poverty. He commend the United Kingdom�s DFID, the Commonwealth and other development partners for providing the required finances to ensure the success of the survey report which was an important report for both the Government and the people of Sierra Leone.
Professor Kamara also used the opportunity to make a public appeal to the Minister of Finance to ensure that Sierra Leone invested in collecting and compiling statistical data.
Subject: Re: Deputy Finance Minister Walks out on Statistics Launching in
From: mohamed barrie
To: All
Date Posted: 08:57:19 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: ncsneak@aol.com
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Message:
I am in support of the deputy minister. I do not know him but I like what he did. you guys dont expect him to lie to the public. He said there was no report to be launched. The report should have been sent to both the Minister and his deputy. we have to stop the lies that goes on in sierra leone. It is disturbing to note that most of guys would rather lie that be truthful.
What the deputy minister did is the only language they understand. Let them produce the report. They have squandered the money and they want the deputy minister to cover for them. He is a smart guy.
Subject: Re: Deputy Finance Minister Walks out on Statistics Launching in
From: Jack
To: All
Date Posted: 11:27:41 11/29/07 ()
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""I cannot read my statement because there is no report to be launched" and proceeded to rise from his seat and leave the Hall where the Launching was held." AT.
This tells me that the DM has a statement already prepared and if he had prepared the statement based on the synopsis I would assumed he should have insisted on getting the final report before facing John Public.
Now my question is which line ministry oversees the Statistics Dept? If it is the MF& EP then shame on the DM and his immediate boss.
Subject: Re: Deputy Finance Minister Walks out on Statistics Launching in
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 11:19:21 11/29/07 ()
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I'm not quite sure what this behavior was meant to achieve. On the face of the facts presented, it appears somewhat inappropriate for a deputy minister to behave in this fashion.
Subject: Re: Deputy Finance Minister Walks out on Statistics Launching in
From: TK
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Date Posted: 12:52:58 11/30/07 ()
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Message:
The guy is just arrogant.
Subject: Re: Deputy Finance Minister Walks out on Statistics Launching in
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 23:39:25 11/28/07 ()
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Message:
I think I'm gonna be a fan of the Deputy Minister. Whataguy! These stupid govt bureaucrats too often engage in meaningless, hifulatin charades to justify their salaries and protect their turf. SLHS, CWIQ---all these acronyms ammount to bullkaka and Dep. Min Dr Richard Konteh knew it too and decided to call them on it. Enough is enough. As the old gay guy used to say whenever someone tried to gyp him "I may be stupid and all buy I know when I am being screwed"
Good for you Dr Konteh.
Subject: Re: Deputy Finance Minister Walks out on Statistics Launching in
From: Arrogant
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Date Posted: 03:02:31 11/29/07 ()
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This is just unprecedented.I will simply call it height of rudeness and arrogance.
Subject: Re: Deputy Finance Minister Walks out on Statistics Launching in
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 08:12:14 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
Quite shocking behaviour, I think it is down to inexperience on the job. The minister could have at least manufactured some explanation in consultation with the relevant civil servant whose remit it was to produce such a report.
If the absence of the report was entire due to the negligenece or incompetence of his officials then this was a clear grounds for dismissals or demotion at least.
If however, the failure to produce the report was due to the ministers carelessness, then he should learn to consult his staff in the ministry before he ventured out to face the press on important matters as such.
If this had happened in the developed nations such as in Europe and USA, I doubt whether the minister would survived.
God help this nation
Subject: Re: Deputy Finance Minister Walks out on Statistics Launching in
From: Mohamed Boye Jallo Jamboria
To: All
Date Posted: 08:39:01 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ti400720a080-11699.bb.online.no at 83.108.237.183
Message:
I want to believe the Deputy minister is right.As per administrative protocol he should have got the complete report some days forehand and should have had time to peruse it.His walikng out means he did noe get the report and what he saw was just an abstract.A ministers key role is to procect the taxpayer whom he represents by and on the pleasure of the President who is the Chief Trustee of the people's interest in governance and pubilc administration.
It is high time civil servants begin to take the taxpayers seriuosly.Wherever the money for the project may have come from at the end it is the taxpayers that will fot the bills as these monies are to be repaid even at a later date.It is such contempt for the pubilc's interest and lack of probity and accountability that is one reason why corruption is rife in Sierra Leone.Civil servants may be professionals but they have to develop the right frame of administrative ethics for them to respect those who pay them and it is the Taxpayers.
Subject: Re: Deputy Finance Minister Walks out on Statistics Launching in
From: Forgbo
To: All
Date Posted: 10:03:15 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.4
Message:
Richard an-yampy conteh walked out because his boss the Minister who An-yampy was deputising refused to give him the REPORTS...
APC infighting coming out into the OPEN slowly
Subject: Talking about unconditional lovers
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:18:13 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
(Interpretation)
This song is in Susu. This is the translation of the song.
Chrosu
I am scared of heads these days.
I am scared of what people actually call love these days.
Stanza 1: Real love hardly exists these days because show-off has been empowered.
Real love hardly exists these days because ravenous rapacious vulturine (too much want) has seized human decency.
If you love some one, do so without a motive.
Stanza 2:
If someone loves you, love them without a motive.
If someone loves you, love them back even if they do not have anything, you will not regret it.
A beautiful woman who loves a man will be confused each day she can see him.
A man who loves a woman will be go all around town in search of her if he does not see her for a day.
Chorus:
Go look for her so that you two can smile at each other.
Go in search of her so that the two of you can laugh heartily.
Stanza 3:
Then goes on to talk about former friends, family in Senegal, Gasia, Conakry, Mamun, Ivory Coast, Tabuya, and Kanka explaining how he loves them and will never forget them.
Chorus:
Go look for her so that you two can smile at each other.
Go in search of her so that the two of you can laugh heartily.
Subject: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 20:30:21 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-98-204-42-120.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 98.204.42.120
Message:
Culled from the Cocorioko Newspaper:
"The position of Director of Communication at State House and Press Secretary to the President has been filled by an
experienced and outstanding journalist from the U.S, but a formal announcement will be made when he arrives in Freetown
this week for consultations with President Koroma and the Minister of Information and Communications, Mr. I.B. Kargbo, and
to take up his appointment."
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 10:42:17 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-74-210-115.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 72.74.210.115
Message:
Hmm. Because he launched this paper which I was fortunate to be a frequent reader of before the APC came into power turning Kabs Kanu into a party mouth piece instead of an independent with no party affiliations to paraphrase him, I am a fan of Mr. Kanu. That being said, I hope he does not become the new press secretary. For one he would already have started to overly glorify himself with this quote: ..filled by an experienced and outstanding journalist from the U.S"
Second, while we do have a new govt and this is a clean slate Mr. Kanu has to know that as the press secretary, you are not actually contributing to the development of the country. More importantly, as a reverend and someone dedicated to the betterment of Sierra Leone, you are now going to be the one telling the lies (that you will know are lies) to the people of Sierra Leone. So I am sure the new PS will turn out to be someone else. Mr. Kanu, If you turn out to be the new press secretary, will you tell us why you accepted the appointment and what will the position of Cocorioko be. Surely, you can't maintain that this will be an independent outlet.
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: Issa Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:48:47 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: Issa@yahoo.com
Entered From: ool-18e415b2.dyn.optonline.net at 24.228.21.178
Message:
With all the noise about APC in New Jersey the only position is Press Secretary? Foday Mansaray has no credentials and Alex Mansaray is boisterous and empty. These people lied to Ernest Koroma when he came here begging for money. Victor Foh waited for a week, nothing. The only survivor is the unholy Rev Kabs Kanu who is the propaganda machine for APC. All the same, he managed to attend FBC twenty nine years ago( I hope his degree has not expired). The only decent work he can do here is teaching and pastorig. Some of us are not impressed because if a Rev could be a perpetual lier and be rewarded then the end justifies the means. Ay! Hell is waiting for him. What about Bubu Kamara who is vacillating like a political pendulum? Ah sorry for Salone. Broke people in power.
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: Issa Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 10:37:08 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
With all the noise about APC in New Jersey the only position is Press Secretary? Foday Mansaray has no credentials and Alex Mansaray is boisterous and empty. These people lied to Ernest Koroma when he came here begging for money. Victor Foh waited for a week, nothing. The only survivor is the unholy Rev Kabs Kanu who is the propaganda machine for APC. All the same, he managed to attend FBC twenty nine years ago( I hope his degree has not expired). The only decent work he can do here is teaching and pastorig. Some of us are not impressed because if a Rev could be a perpetual lier and be rewarded then the end justifies the means. Ay! Hell is waiting for him. What about Bubu Kamara who is vacillating like a political pendulum? Ah sorry for Salone. Broke people in power.
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: JOE BLOW
To: All
Date Posted: 00:11:26 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74
Message:
Mr Issa, all you assumptions on this forum are false.You are the kinds of Sierra Leonean who envy others. Try to post your resume and lets evaluate your
educational standing.If you are the Issa Kamara I know.You are a drug dealer and a pimp. Kabbs hold a master degree here in the US.Mr Foday Mansaray is currently employed as Sr. Vice President with a reputable Mortgage and Savings Bank in control of over $375 million a year mortgage back securities.By the way,when was the last time you earned 200,000 in one year?I am confident he has enough qualification to become head of compliance to run a strong and viable Bank and that was why he was hired.Mr Alex Mansaray is also a well Qualified Township and country planner certified by Rutgers University.He has sat on the franklin township planning Board for 3 Years. He has become a force to recond with.
Wish them well and shut up. If any of these gentlemen wants to be employed in freetown, they will get anything they wish for themselves.
Dont kid yourself.
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 23:50:33 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-167-221.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.167.221
Message:
Sticks and stones and the Rev's bones?
Issa, thou malicious slinger....
Kabs, if indeed you are the new Boss of all media in Salone, congrats and the most wonderful felicitations to you. You will be in a great position to bring to the Prez's attention, the concerns of the various voices of the forum: SLPP, APC, Youtubers, etc.
Those who love and respect you will be thrilled...
and those who hate you and are on their way to hell, wearing gasoline pants, will continue to rage at you.
Good Luck sir!
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: Somerset man
To: All
Date Posted: 00:31:28 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-152-73.patmedia.net at 24.225.152.73
Message:
Issa, you are not fit to untie the Rev's shoestrings. Kabbs Kanu is overqualified for any position in Sierra Leone.BA Sierra Leone .MA USA and Law degree UK.You are just jealous of him.We who know him respect him a lot because of his ability .Kabbs is also one of the few Sierra Leone ministers of the religion I can eat anything for,a faithful family man , faithful to his wife, church and to us . You are also not fit to stand anywhere near Foday Mansaray, the senior vice-president of a bank in New Jersey. You will never live in the kind of house Foday Mansaray has.Oh, maybe, you can be his houseboy there. The best way to be like them is not to be jealous of them ,but to work hard to reach where they are.
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: Liko
To: All
Date Posted: 07:18:54 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: f298781.ga.unc.edu at 152.4.31.217
Message:
I have known Rev. Kanu for many, many years. He is my senior and I have the utmost respect of him. Yes. He is a teacher, a pastor and a writer. As Somerset has already intimated, he hold a Masters degree in Special Education. Indeed, the SA. Lone Gov. cannot even match his current pay as a teacher, including other benefits he currently receives.
If the information is true that he has accepted the position as State House Press Secretary, then he is only doing it out of genuine interest to improve developments in Sierra Leone.
Therefore, couldn't we just congratulate him in advance and wish him all the best, instead of bashing him.
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: An independent view
To: All
Date Posted: 08:08:32 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-110-242.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.110.242
Message:
"The Sierra Leone Government cannot even match his current pay as a teacher, including other benefits he currently receives".
Similarly, there are benefits that the Sierra Leone Government can offer that the US Government would not offer him. Did the US Government provide him with free accommodation, a driver, a government vehicle and workers who would be keeping his compound clean and do the household chores for his wife and family? It is possible that he would have access to as many drivers something he would not be able to take advantage of in the US.
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: Liko
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:47 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: f298781.ga.unc.edu at 152.4.31.217
Message:
You are probably correct. But I still believe, if the information is true, that his acceptance may not be directly connected with monetary benefits. This is my opinion, knowing Kabs.
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: Issa Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 09:42:57 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: Issa@yahoo.com
Entered From: ool-4355d69e.dyn.optonline.net at 67.85.214.158
Message:
I heard someone say Kabs holds a law degree from the UK, a masters degree from the US(Special Education). Can you please tell us the universities? We want to check. This Sam-Sumana syndrome is prevalent in the APC. Remember your VP who was a CNA here and lied about his credentials? All I know is Kabs is BA USL which kept him in the classroom for thirty years.He can't go beyond the classroom. Can you also tell us the bank Foday Mansaray (the crook) is affiliated with? Let him refund Fatu Kossay's money he swindled first of all. I am very close to Rutgers so it is easy to find out about Alex Mansaray(lousy and empty). This somerset cabal has nothing to emulate.This is APC disgrace. Foday fraudulently took money from a Ghanian fitter in
Somerset.What kabs will be getting in Sierra Leone is pittance to what he gets here? You are now justifying that he is going to steal. Kabs has nothing in America except false propaganda. His last resort was to become a pastor, the last station of failures. We are now seeing the reason why most Sierra Leonean kids in somerset are deviants. These would-be mentors(the Somerset Cabal)are not good role models.Nobody is jealous of them. We are only concerned about Salone.
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: Joseph Sherman
To: All
Date Posted: 10:10:13 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-70-108-173-163.washdc.east.verizon.net at 70.108.173.163
Message:
Issa,
You are the people that Sierra Leone need to rehabilitate from the Pull-Him -Down (PHD) syndrome which has eaten the fabric of progressive Sierra Leoneans. First and foremost, requesting for the credentials of people like Rev. Kabbs and Foday Mansaray depicts the calibre of person you are-ignorant, inqusitive and primitive. What are your contributions in Sierra Leone that you question the credibility or been bashful of people reputation? To give you an insight of who Rev Kabbs Kanu as I knew him in the early eighties in Liberia, when Sierra leoneans and West Africans where scrambling to utilize their hard earned education due to economic instability in their respective countries, Rev. Kabbs kanu was one of the few Sierra Leoneans that was employed in the Monrovia Consolidated School System (MCSS) where he was highly respected for his intelligence, descipline and intergrity. So, for you to question his credibility denotes the type of mentality you possess. As fro Mr. Foday Mansaray, even though I have not met him personally, his activities and contributions in urshering a democratically government admired by the international community and the subregion is indicative of the calibre of person he is-capable of doing anything positive for Sierra Leone. There is saying "if you start pointing a finger at some one, remember four fingers are pointing back at you." If you cannot contribute in the development of Sierra Leone, keep your mouth shut and learn from the good deeds of others.
Subject: Re: Is KABBS KANU the new Press Secretary to EBK?
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 10:10:00 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.108.136.238
Message:
Be it a BA holder is an astonishing achievement in Sierra Leone standing. But that's besides the point. The point here is KABS is willing to leave behind what he has been doing for many years and sacrificially go back home to serve is good for Sierra Leone and others should follow suit. I think I was the first person to break the news about KABS' appointment in this forum and I congratulated him for that, but they remove my posting. I knew the reason was, he wanted to make it a secret until finalized.
SAM SUMMANA: This issue was closed long time ago and there is no justification to bring it up agains except for those who does not want to see others' progress but themselves. The most critic of this issue appologized in this forum that he had indeed confirmed VP's qualification.
Let's wish who ever is willing to server the country with good intention the best.
Subject: Sharia-friendly UK Treasury
From: News
To: All
Date Posted: 20:21:01 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
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Britain is to issue its first ever Islamic (Sharia)-compliant government bonds.
London estimates that Islamic financial assets worldwide exceed $250 billion and are quickly mounting. Tapping into that is tempting for a country that will need to borrow almost $120 billion this year to cover its deficits and due bonds.
However, borrowing from those practicing Sharia law comes with strings attached. Receiving interest payments or investing in items like pork, gambling and pornography are strictly prohibited. But the limitations go far beyond that. Sharia law �stipulates that money must not be used for a purpose incompatible with Islam� (Financial Times, April 26).
This could have a wide range of effects on government spending. This money �could not be used in the furtherance of many individual freedoms, or in the promotion of any idealistic or political worldview other than Islam,� including secular democracy, says Andrea Williams, from the Lawyers� Christian Fellowship (ibid.).
As Williams asks, �Is the government prepared to be bound to the decisions of Islamic scholars on the practicalities of these bonds?�
Subject: Re: Sharia-friendly UK Treasury
From: New Blood
To: All
Date Posted: 07:50:31 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-74-66-237-26.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.66.237.26
Message:
The ultimate practicality is MONEY..
This explains why the Islamists, Jews and Christians do not target themselves in the minefields of Kono and Kenema.......
They may be divided by religious,political or cultural conflicts,yet they remain united by interests of "MAKING MONEY"
C'est la vie.
Subject: Re: Sharia-friendly UK Treasury
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 05:55:35 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.59
Message:
Firstly, I wish to commend the British Government for it's democratic handling of such a sensitive financial issue, particularly where the term 'terrorism' is almost being equalled to everything Islamic. That's a distant departure from the orthodox western tracking of money transfer done by muslims - something that the Bush crusade has conviniently termed as 'terror sponsorship'!
Secondly, it is a clear demonstration to those of you who have ignored your Islamic responsibilties that wherever you go, Islam is growing. The majority of muslim brothers, now blinded by the glamour of flashy cars; the urgency to make more money; the willingness to abandon the wayward social company of bad friends; the shyness to associate with Islam because George Bush thinks Muslims are terrorists, .... are all in a lost track. There's no excuse for the Five Daily Prayers. Islam is great and is the realistic answer to mankind.
Subject: Re: Sharia-friendly UK Treasury
From: Pedrodacintra
To: All
Date Posted: 07:20:23 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator5678.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.180.78
Message:
So true my brother.Tell them! Tell them!!
Subject: FEN PLABA: Re: TOEGONDOE
From: Kawusu
To: All
Date Posted: 19:01:56 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4575eca0.dyn.optonline.net at 69.117.236.160
Message:
Kothor Fenbla,
Toe has disappeared because like many, he is disappointed and angry with Ernest Koroma's Northernization agenda. You know Toe likes Ernest but this Northernization thing does not sit well Ernest's SouthEastern supporters. I hear that you only have the utter the words 'wan seke' or 'walio' without an accent and Ernest will hook you up big time. Toe being a Mendeman cannot pass that test.
Subject: Re: FEN PLABA: Re: TOEGONDOE
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 00:14:44 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-167-221.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.167.221
Message:
Northernization, Schnorthernization!
Kawusu lef me ya. There is no Northernization policy my friend. Yes there is a Northern tilt in the current govt, more a result of the APC Northern political base than a deliberate policy of discrimination against the Southeast. Some of us will continue to speak against such an ugly tilt until every region is equitably represented in the cabinet. I believe that EBK will make the necessary adjustments as his presidency matures from its three-month infancy.
But enough already with this cheap "Northernization" propaganda!
By the way Kawusu, I can say 'Wan Seke' in flawless Temne. How come ar dae still bail kaka nar Amerika? I guess I missed my ride on the Northernization Arcela you have been obsessing about. WAN TAY YEH!
Subject: Re: FEN PLABA: Re: TOEGONDOE
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:22:46 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195189.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.189
Message:
N'walye bakaloun.
Subject: Say vreb! Translation, "it is treu. Hey!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:19:14 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194059.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.59
Message:
What!
Subject: Re: Say vreb! Translation, "it is treu. Hey!
From: Sogoh Jawara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:10:49 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-248-109-32.hsd1.de.comcast.net at 69.248.109.32
Message:
Bambay take dis wan yah so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL6sf4fOmZo&feature=related
Subject: Re: Say vreb! Translation, "it is treu. Hey!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:52:06 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195189.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.189
Message:
Ouch!
Thank you very, very, very,very, much!
The civilized.
Subject: Honest depts most be paid!!!
From: Sempu Jay
To: All
Date Posted: 18:17:45 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: sempuj2007@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-163-112-230.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.163.112.230
Message:
A prominent personality who is an executive officer of the North America Branch of a Political Party in Sierra Leone owe a poor woman the sum of $620. This personality is lobbying to get an appointment in the present government. How can we trust people like him to hold public office when he cannot pay his debts. Prezo EBK please watch such people.
Lonta
Subject: Re: Honest depts most be paid!!!
From: Reasonable
To: All
Date Posted: 03:04:55 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-150-252.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.150.252
Message:
Please let him get a Govt job, where he will make money, and pay all his bedts.Please give him some breathing space
Subject: Re: Honest depts most be paid!!!
From: Sammie Jay
To: All
Date Posted: 18:53:54 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: samie@yahoo.com
Entered From: s01060013d43c6994.wp.shawcable.net at 24.77.254.99
Message:
Mister Big Talk....you know yourself honest debt must be paid.....please pay the poor lady her $650 or else we will expose you.You claim to be Mister know all and you want President Ernest Koroma to give you a position in his government but you can't pay this small amount.please you have five days to pay up or we will expose you.lonta
Subject: Re: Honest depts most be paid!!!
From: jb
To: All
Date Posted: 20:06:02 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-178-145-200.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.178.145.200
Message:
Blackmail.... is a crime you know!
Subject: Re: Honest depts most be paid!!!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:33:38 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccadmin195189.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.195.189
Message:
Hoe, hoe,hoe to you too!
Go woke woe, go woke woe, titi dae cam dae go bo dendae nar for go woke woe.
Repeat after me! 1,2,3 O.K.
Subject: Beware of History
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:07:44 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194059.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.59
Message:
When history tells it, then the truth will be known. It will remain in history.
Subject: I am happy to report that
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:45:21 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194059.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.59
Message:
I soke to His Excellency Ambassador O.F.Yansaneh today. It was a brotherly discuss.
Subject: Waskaleh!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:42:46 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194059.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.59
Message:
Go, go, go, go!
Subject: Yeke yekeh
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:38:12 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194059.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.59
Message:
Yeke yekeh
Subject: TOEGONDOE SAGBAH, ARE YOU DEAD??
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 17:01:54 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-167-221.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.167.221
Message:
The silence from one of the most fearsome polemicists on all fora, the PMDC Bomba himself, Toegondoe Sagbah has been thunderous! The bane of the SLPP, TOE has been oddly quiet after the elections.
We miss your brash imput and your punditry.
Toegondoe, I hope you have neither kicked the 'BOKIT' nor cross-carpeted yet to the lair of the Green Monster!
Remember, the Banga bunch is mightier than the Poyo 'tik'.
Subject: Re: TOEGONDOE SAGBAH, ARE YOU DEAD??
From: kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:11:41 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-187-59-70.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.59.70
Message:
He is busy locating solomon Berewa's mansion in the Dominican republic.
Subject: Re: TOEGONDOE SAGBAH, ARE YOU DEAD??
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 17:15:20 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-167-221.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.167.221
Message:
Kamara, you too lek for proboke!
I know you will never forgive Toe for spinning that yarn until he apologises. Elecshion don don. Take am easy now with mi man, bra.
Subject: Re: TOEGONDOE SAGBAH, ARE YOU DEAD??
From: kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:24:33 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-187-59-70.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.59.70
Message:
nor worry , we dae take an easy with you man. just a little probokation .
Subject: Re: TOEGONDOE SAGBAH, ARE YOU DEAD??
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 17:55:16 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Fen Plaba, Some of the good old SLPP diplomats should have left, any way. The oldest political party in Sierra Leone needs to do a house-cleaning exercise. If letting them go to the APC is what forms part of our house-cleaning stint, then so be it. After all, nar APC teach dem for tiff en lai.
Subject: Re: TOEGONDOE SAGBAH, ARE YOU DEAD??
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 20:19:28 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
nar APC teach dem for tiff en lai
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ROTFLMMFAO BRA E YOU NAR MAN BOBS
Subject: Re: TOEGONDOE SAGBAH, ARE YOU DEAD??
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 23:08:49 11/28/07 ()
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Abi Ah Lie?
Subject: STANDING THE TEST(S)
From: Siaka Margai
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Date Posted: 16:21:14 11/28/07 ()
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Pres. Koroma is involved in making sure NPA works, Muslim Congress settles, Hajjis leave for Makkah, The Petrol issue, Cleaning Freetown, The Hovercraft for Lungi Links, and new appointments..
ELEPHANT HEAD NORTO PEKIN LOAD
Subject: Re: STANDING THE TEST(S)
From: Anthony Sisay
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Date Posted: 16:55:42 11/28/07 ()
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A good Manager is the one who knows how to delegate best. Put the right people in the right positions and see that they perform or get laid off.
We Sierra Leonean like blowing things out of proportion and get overly excited in a No-big-deal situation.
Up till now we have not made the foreigners fell safe because i have heard a public apology for the Lebanese mob incident (forgive me if there has been).
We don't have to wait until things happen and start looking for solutions.
I say layoff the officers (including the boss who sent them) who were involve in the Muslim Congress school incident or reprimand them.
Subject: Re: STANDING THE TEST(S)
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 19:42:38 11/28/07 ()
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Why on earth do you always jump the gun?
Requirement: Ready, steady, go......and then, GONE.
Mr. Anthony: Ready, steady,.........and ALREADY GONE.
Key words.......INVESTIGATION PENDING.
My friend, leave this botobata Partisan stuff.
Subject: Re: STANDING THE TEST(S)
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 16:38:28 11/28/07 ()
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O'Sheki-MarCai,
Nar bato or moko ba?
Regardless of how the elephant balances the load on his head, what's your pleasure? A president who is working his executive tush off trying to get things done for the country
OR
A president, like Pa Kabba, who lived by the sweet Groucho Marxian philosophy: A woman is as young as she feels and a man is as young as the woman he feels!
Subject: Re: STANDING THE TEST(S)
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 09:29:24 11/29/07 ()
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a man is as young as the woman he feels!
I hear EBK dey woke overtime in this feeling department..
He feels too much.. its almost like the Bra Spider overstretching parable..
Anywho.. i hope he has some tush left for his WIFE at the end of the hard workign day..
Psssssss...
I hear Decor Furniture just donated a big red couch to statehouse.. Its one of those pullout ones that turns into bed..
immmmmmmm.... long nights? Or office tryst ..?
hibi hibi.... this nar kono compin?
Subject: Re: STANDING THE TEST(S)
From: Siaka Margai
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Date Posted: 16:45:33 11/28/07 ()
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Hmmm...Dem Parabul Go Bone
A President who is working all the time..
Subject: ARE SLPP DIPLOMATS NOW WORKING FOR APC?
From: Summer
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Date Posted: 15:19:57 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: summer@hotmail.com
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Since the last announcement or appointments of few Ambassadors, there has not been a follow up, if more replacement is going to be made. Are the same old SLPP Diplomatic crooks still employed under the APC or is it some kind of delay tactics. Who is representing us Sierra-Leonean abroad?
Subject: Re: ARE SLPP DIPLOMATS NOW WORKING FOR APC?
From: PHD
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Date Posted: 02:45:46 11/30/07 ()
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What is your problem???Aren't they Sierra Leoneans???By the way, some of them were playing double game, and wholeheartedly supported APC.No names please!!!
Subject: Re: ARE SLPP DIPLOMATS NOW WORKING FOR APC?
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 11:51:44 11/29/07 ()
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My hope is that the diplomatic service will be de-politicised and run by a professional diplomatic corps with training and experience in diplomacy. Representing the country abroad is no place for political hacks.
Subject: Re: ARE SLPP DIPLOMATS NOW WORKING FOR APC?
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 16:27:08 11/28/07 ()
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Summer, It is winter time in the rarefied world of diplomacy. You will be surprised at the difficulty in dislodging those who have misrepresented in the past. Some of them simply removed the green jackets and put on their Red Safari suits and pledged earnest allegiance to the rising sun.
Subject: Re: ARE SLPP DIPLOMATS NOW WORKING FOR APC?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 17:56:31 11/28/07 ()
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Fen Plaba, Some of the good old SLPP diplomats should have left, any way. The oldest political party in Sierra Leone needs to do a house-cleaning exercise. If letting them go to the APC is what forms part of our house-cleaning stint, then so be it. After all, nar APC teach dem for tiff en lai.
Subject: Re: ARE SLPP DIPLOMATS NOW WORKING FOR APC?
From: Summer
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Date Posted: 16:41:45 11/28/07 ()
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You maybe right, it's beginning to look that way.
Subject: THE FIRST LADY AND COCORIOKO. INTERVIEW EXTRA-ORDINARY?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 08:42:35 11/28/07 ()
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Saturday will be prime time in Freetown. Cocorioko has announced that the First Lady of the Republic, Mrs. Sia Koroma, will be granting an exclusive interview to this medium of communication. As the Yoruba mark of respect goes in Ola Ritimi's "The Gods Are Not To Blame," may Obatala the God of creation grant you increase, Mrs. Sia Koroma.
As Cocorioko primes itself for a journalistic encounter with the First Lady of the Republic, the opportunity to talk to the woman behind our chief of state should be used to discuss issues of national pertinence. The First Lady is not a politician, but when it comes to her native Kono Land, she is supposed to have a word or two to be whispered to the president.
As a citizen of the Kono district, the First Lady surely knows that her place of birth is enriched by huge mineral deposits that could have transformed Sierra Leone a long time ago. Unfortunately, the State is only partly in control of the source of wealth in Kono district. Illicit mining and ill-conceived policies from Freetown have always conspired to exploit Kono Land while the people of that district live with the austere pinches of poverty. In a responsibly governed nation, Kono district could have acted as an axle in a locomotive movement toward a successful economic destination. Each time Kono district is emptied of wealth, the rest of Sierra Leone sustains shaky legs that can only limp in economic straights. What suggestions does the First Lady have for the President when it comes to the restoration of state control over her cheated birthplace? What policies set this APC apart from the old APC that allowed diamond-rich Kono to waste away like an atrophied limb? Being a Kono citizen and the closest person to the First Gentleman of the Republic, Mrs. Sia Koroma should answer those questions without a stammer.
Next-door in Kailahun district, the APC frittered much-needed resources with the same irresponsibility. Mr. Suma's leadership at SLPMB did not bear any meaningful fruits to lessen indigenous irritations about Kailahun being robbed to fatten the bumpkins that ran SLPMB. Apart from being an empty shell drained of yolk, SLPMB remains a joke to Sierra Leone and an insult to the district that strained every nerve to supply the agricultural products needed for Theft Inc. As the First Lady prepares to meet Cocorioko, one can only expect probing questions about Kono district and the wealth it produces in the midst of haggard-looking Kono citizens.
Subject: Re: THE FIRST LADY AND COCORIOKO. INTERVIEW EXTRA-ORDINARY?
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 13:46:58 11/28/07 ()
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Enviable mi mans,
Yeah I'm also waiting with bated breath for the Cocorioko interview. The hard-hitting questions you want Cocorioko to ask? I would want to ask them!
1) Madam First lady, If you were a tree, what tree would you be?
2) I know that you a woman of God. How many times do you weep when you see the impact of the SLPP-generated poverty on the poor innocent children of Sierra Leone?
3)You know the great generosity of spirit of your husband and his excessive selflessness. How do you feel when those unworthy SLPP fanatics wilfully attack your dear husband?
4) Why do you and your great husband love Sierra Leone so?
5) how is the charity thing going ma'am?
Subject: Re: THE FIRST LADY AND COCORIOKO. INTERVIEW EXTRA-ORDINARY?
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 14:17:40 11/28/07 ()
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Sometimes i think you just lek for mornah BraE...
You cant be seriously calling Jamils Peggy and insurance playboy our GREAT PRESIDENT.
What has he done that equates greatness and generousity of spirit????
1) Madam First lady, If you were a tree, what tree would you be?
A baobab tree... When an africa man runs whole day, he comes back and sit under the baobab tree for shade and sustinance.. so our raray presidents has somewhere to lean his tired head..
2) I know that you a woman of God. How many times do you weep when you see the impact of the SLPP-generated poverty on the poor innocent children of Sierra Leone?
Well, my husband was also part and parcel of the government before he became president. So as a woman of god, it does not tell well that i be hypocritical.
He was the leader of the opposition and had members in parliament where laws are made and oversight committees are giving all the rights to challenge governement institutions..
So he failed as much as the past regime in setting salone straight..
3)You know the great generosity of spirit of your husband and his excessive selflessness. How do you feel when those unworthy SLPP fanatics wilfully attack your dear husband?
I dont want to be caught in that COCORIOKO generated lie.. even leather boots has told me in private that he miss am, e don tay weh he bin aim for beat tha bra.
4) Why do you and your great husband love Sierra Leone so?
Great husband? (chuckles..you lek provoking..)
Anywho, let me answer the question..
Well, we are salones children and like a good soldier.. My husband is answering to duty..and standing to attention when duty calls.
I hope he will love me and salone ONLY.. and only STAND TO ATTENTION when we call..
5) how is the charity thing going ma'am?
Small small, betteh nor dey yate.. but enti yusef know.. things they improve small small..
Subject: Re: THE FIRST LADY AND COCORIOKO. INTERVIEW EXTRA-ORDINARY?
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 16:07:35 11/28/07 ()
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Candido, I'm glad you caught my tongue-in-cheek dig. For a moment, I thought I had committed a foot-in-mouth!
You wrote: "You cant be seriously calling Jamils Peggy and insurance playboy our GREAT PRESIDENT.
What has he done that equates greatness and generousity of spirit????"
Candido, as far as EBK is concerned, before the cock moons thrice, thou shall applaud him twice: 'lectric light AND clean 'pump Wata' for starters. By the time the moon does twelve cycles, we will be so flooded with measurable improvements in the standard of living that you and Enviable will be writing odes to the greatness of this man. You will be engaging in enthusiastic, rambunctious rhapsodies in praise of El Presidente.
"Jamils Peggy and insurance playboy"?? O'man lef nor!
I guess this is the revenge of the Peggy boy then. He is now President. As they say in Show business: "You have come a long way, baby!"
Subject: Re: THE FIRST LADY AND COCORIOKO. INTERVIEW EXTRA-ORDINARY?
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 09:13:53 11/29/07 ()
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Have you for a second stopped and think..
Haja afsatu kabba saying that bumbuna is 90% complete should give you a clue...?
If SLPP HAD WON...
With Electricity and Water been polarising and boots to the ground issues past election. SLPP would have provided electricity in about the same time frame it is taking EBK..?
SLPP was working on a comprehensive strategy of fixing the distribution networks (al Morrocans) before the power was restored because it is reported that 30% of generated electricy is lost in the system..?
ARE WE BLAME PRONE or do we stop once in a while and look for the bigger picture and tell god tenki..?
APC the next five years will ride on the green coat tails and hard work put in by former ministers and the past executive. THAT IS A FACT.
I am not defending the theft or corruption part.. But some of them ministers put in long hours and determination to bring our country from the throngs of amageddon to a stable West African Democracy..
Praise is thiers for the the effort.. And i will cry it high even up on mount Aureol.
The foundation has been built for a prosperous salone..
We just hope APC doesnt SCREW IT UP till we come back 2012.
Subject: Re: THE FIRST LADY AND COCORIOKO. INTERVIEW EXTRA-ORDINARY?
From: Nyama Kondeh
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Date Posted: 13:09:52 11/28/07 ()
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Bra Enviable, I like "the first gentleman of the republic"
Those words fit our handsome president
Subject: Re: THE FIRST LADY AND COCORIOKO. INTERVIEW EXTRA-ORDINARY?
From: MR SIERRA LEONE
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Date Posted: 10:02:42 11/28/07 ()
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I have usually heard the word exploit or exploitation when it comes to our Diamonds and other minerals resources. Even from our men in charge. (Ministers) words like �we need more foreign investors for the exploitation of our verse mineral resources.�
In my mind I�m thinking,"EXPLOIT" that is exactly what we have been getting . EXPLOITATION. In other words, let�s be careful what we wish for.
If we can�t control our DIAMONDS, our diamonds are going to control us.
Subject: Re: THE FIRST LADY AND COCORIOKO. INTERVIEW EXTRA-ORDINARY?
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 09:30:02 11/28/07 ()
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Hard hitting, Bra E, Hard hitting! But as you rightly said, the First Lady is not a politician. Let the interview focus on her "causes" and ceremonial duties. We are not yet ready for a Hillary Clinton (wink).
Subject: Re: THE FIRST LADY AND COCORIOKO. INTERVIEW EXTRA-ORDINARY?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 09:05:14 11/28/07 ()
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economic straits, not straights
Subject: WHAT IS KABBA KOOL-AID
From: Ronaldino
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Date Posted: 08:34:33 11/28/07 ()
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Could folks of the green persuasion tell me?
Subject: Re: WHAT IS KABBA KOOL-AID
From: ronaldino
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Date Posted: 16:57:47 11/28/07 ()
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Well if you greeners will not answer the question, I will. Kabba Kool-Aid is the brown water that comes from the taps in Freetown. Drank by the capital for years! Thus dubbed by the youth.
Subject: Re: WHAT IS KABBA KOOL-AID
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 17:11:58 11/28/07 ()
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Ee Thel Eh Gbaka! (Deep belly laugh). I was scratching my head over that puzzle. I actually saw a kid wrap his mouth around a filthy tap and try to suck water with all the pull and strength of his lungs. Guma Valley still said No!
Brown water, rusty taps....What a metaphor for SLPP incompetence!
Subject: Re: WHAT IS KABBA KOOL-AID
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 09:21:04 11/29/07 ()
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SLPP sucked in this area..
I dont care what the solution should have been..
There should have been a solution.. or a concerted effort.
Water, is too essential.
We hope APC will sort this out once and for all..
They alaki'ed our country and all its parastatals..
If they come up with a solution.. aye..
Jon palmie, troway nah jon res..
We sef (SLPP) need for full we swimming pools and wash our big SUV's.
Subject: Re: WHAT IS KABBA KOOL-AID
From: jebez
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Date Posted: 18:26:18 11/28/07 ()
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call it Kabba cool-aid,if you don't pay for water service,you will never have efficient and effective water service in Sierra Leone.Food for thought.
Subject: THE ROLE OF FOREIGN MISSIONS
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 08:28:30 11/28/07 ()
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I've often wondered whether the government of Sierra Leone uses its foreign missions to their fullest potential. They could serve several purposes, many of which would bring significant benefits to the nation. Of course they would have to be staffed with appropriately qualified people. Some thoughts:
(1)Gateway for foreign investors - Presentations to Chambers of Commerce, participation in International Trade Shows, targeted lobbying of major corporations offering carrots to lure investment, targeted lobbying of host government officials, organizing seminars, workshops and the like to serve as investment forums, introducing potential Sierra Leonean business partners.
(2) Gateway for NGOs, donors,and other charitable organizations - targeted lobbying as appropriate, sharing success stories, lobbying to showcase a Sierra Leonean child/project in calendars/infomercials. Basically, putting Sierra Leone on the map.
(3) Gateway for exportation of Sierra Leonean Arts and Culture - forging links with the arts and entertainment community and getting Sierra Leonean performers invited to major events, cultural exchanges etc. Piggybacking on movies, song lyrics, or books that may reference Sierra Leone to advertize our nation. Explore possibility of "renting" Sierra Leonean historical/cultural/precious mineral exhibits at art galleries and museums
(4) Focal point of the Sierra Leone diaspora - Keep a register of names, addresses and emails of legal Sierra Leonean residents, organize celebrations to mark national holidays such as independence, call on established Sierra Leoneans to network with the business/government community to meet national goals, coordinate/liaise with the disparate Sierra Leonean groups for fundraising and similar events, keep Sierra Leoneans informed of events,legislation, and other relevant matters that may impact them. Show up anytime a Sierra Leonean is arrested or in trouble with the law.
(5) Protect the image of Sierra Leone in host country - Read all publications that reference Sierra Leone and respond/correct misinformation. I can't beleive that our embassies have no comment on the Komba Kambo (US) or Bangura (UK) situations. Even our dismal showing on the UN human development index should be used as an opportunity to educate and inform. Update all your websites with current information and put up some decent images showcasing the country's natural beauty.
Subject: Re: THE ROLE OF FOREIGN MISSIONS
From: Brilliant
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Date Posted: 03:07:41 11/29/07 ()
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KKW, you are absolutely right, and the parameters you have enumerated are the least we expect from our missions.Having said that, I must make a caustic comment.We do need high calibred people to carry out these tasks and probably more.
Subject: Re: THE ROLE OF FOREIGN MISSIONS
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 09:00:35 11/28/07 ()
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KKW, As usual, this is an excellent posting from a very fertile brain.
I have always believed that the answers to your questions depend on
two factors. A determined State House occupant and a Foreign Ministry
headed by a minister with perfect knowledge of his or her job descr1ption.
If the promotion of national interest is one of the many job descr1ptions of the Foreign Minister, then
Sierra Leonean diplomatic missions are yet to perform their jobs.
Putting a human face on Sierra Leone abroad is apparently too
difficult a job for successive Foreign Ministers of Sierra Leone. The easiest job of them all, getting a Sierra Leonean passport
via some of our embassies will take eternity--that is, if the passport ever reaches the applicant.
If the "New Dawn" is real talk, issues like the ones raised
in your posting should catch the attention of the Foreign Minister. When relatives and tribal friends
take jobs at the expense of qualified applicants, jokes, rather than results, will
be the consequence of that kind of national mismanagement
Subject: Re: THE ROLE OF FOREIGN MISSIONS
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 09:18:32 11/28/07 ()
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Bra E - As I was putting together my thoughts on this I recalled our previous exchange regarding the suitability of the incumbent foreign minister for the position. I am hopeful that these ideas are known to the technocrats within the Foreign Ministry and that a good political leader will listen and ACT on them. But I agree, some of the ambassadorial appointments are worrisome.
Subject: Save This Date. April 26 2008
From: Sheku Kallon
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Date Posted: 06:46:30 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: shekukal@yahoo.com
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Be in Washington Metropolitan Area for the NOSLINA (National Orgnization of Sierra Leoneans in North America) awards banquet. Pretty soon there will be a call for nominations sent out asking you to submit nominations for the categories being awarded.
Subject: Re: Save This Date. April 26 2008
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 16:45:08 11/28/07 ()
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Is the Banquet free? If I have to pay for it, I will not show up. Otherwise I am crashing the party to offer a drunken toast to O'Bai!
What sayeth thou, Sheku?
Subject: Re: Save This Date. April 26 2008
From: Sheku Kallon
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Date Posted: 22:13:24 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: shekukal@yahoo.com
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Alieu,
We are doing positive things in Sierra Leone with the funds raised. Come ring in our independence at 12:01 AM on April 27th. Let's put Sierra Leone first on that night. No political speeches other than the side bar conversations.
Subject: Re: Save This Date. April 26 2008
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 08:18:56 11/28/07 ()
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SHEKU,
I may start charging you for all the adverts you are making on this forum. I see you have one thing or the other to advertise everyday on this forum, including your online newspaper. .
Can I start advertising in your paper too, for free ?
That will make it 50-50 .How about that for kicks ?
Subject: Re: Save This Date. April 26 2008
From: Sheku Kallon
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Date Posted: 22:16:20 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: shekukal@yahoo.com
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Brother Kabs,
Feel free to send me the ad you want to run and I will forward it to the editor for publication. Send it to shekukal@yahoo.com.
Sheku
Subject: Re: Save This Date. April 26 2008
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 09:56:27 11/28/07 ()
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Kabbs udat you pass you pass. for right now sheku nor pick de batton yate en you yone las man don dae near de finish line.
Subject: GOVERNMENT STATEMENT
From: STATE HOUSE
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Date Posted: 02:40:06 11/28/07 ()
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State House Press Release
- Wednesday 28 November 2007.
OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
STATE HOUSE
GOVERNMENT STATEMENT
Government is deeply concerned about a violent incident in the Kissy Area arising from an alleged land dispute in the vicinity of the Muslim Congress Secondary School.
A site visit today 26 November 2007 by H.E the President Mr. Ernest Bai Koroma to the locality reveals extensive damage to the school and some of its facilities. Several persons including police personnel are also reported to be injured, some seriously.
While the President appealed to the students, school administrators and members of the community for calm, he deplores this state of affairs as he sees no reason for anyone to take the law into his or her own hands.
The Government has therefore decided to take swift action to restore permanent calm in the school and the surrounding communities, including the police. This includes the setting up of a Three Man Committee to investigate the cause or causes of the incident and the roles played by the various parties to the conflict. The Committees will specifically look into the role of a Mr. Bangura reported to be a land developer whose activities are alleged to have sparked off the incident.
The Committee whose members will also include a representative of the Board of Educators and the Human Rights Commission will report to the President within two weeks and its recommendations will be considered for swift implementation.
Furthermore, the Government has decided to undertake repairs to some of the damaged schools facilities and replacement of others as well as ensure that school activities resume at the earliest possible time.
Meanwhile Government will deal firmly with those proven to have been implicated in criminal acts during this incident.
Finally, all those involved in questionable land transactions are warned in their own interest to strictly follow the regulations established by Government and administered by the Ministry of Land and Housing.
STATE HOUSE
26TH November 2007
Subject: Re: GOVERNMENT STATEMENT
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 08:52:55 11/28/07 ()
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Way to go O'Bai..
Way to go..
Swift and to the point..
This is what we want our governement to do, on the ground politics, decisive. Minimum escalation.
Subject: Re: GOVERNMENT STATEMENT
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 17:19:07 11/28/07 ()
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Candido praises O'Bai?...
I'm gonna run to Connecticut and play the Powerball tonight. Something big is gonna happen. AR SOT GOD!
Subject: Re: GOVERNMENT STATEMENT
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 09:15:20 11/29/07 ()
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No need, i am equal opportunity..
Praise, curse, provoke, smear.. anything good is good to me..
He did a good one there.. and its Kudo's.
Subject: kandia kouyate
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 23:24:35 11/27/07 ()
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Subject: oui! Say the grace.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 23:10:53 11/27/07 ()
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Morlai had a date with grace but he was to meet Grace's parents for the first time and wanted to impress Grace's family so he asked Joe what he should know before the visit.
Joe adviced him to be prepared to say the grace. Morlai replied, men I am asking about difficult issues not grace." "Do you know how to say the grace?" Joe asked. Morlai fell on the floor laughing. "Make sure it is not too long or too short. Five to ten words should do it;" Joe advised. He continued well, that is the only thing I have in mind because Grace's father is a Dickens. "No problemo!" Morlai replied. He went to the house, greeted by a six-feet-four, two hundred-twenty pounds middle-aged man and in the living room was an elegant woman about the man's age. Dinner time came, they sat at an immaculate table. Every one dished their plates and returned to the table.
"Morlai, bless the table," the middle-aged man required. Grace stepped on Morlai's toes when she realized confusion in his face, "say the grace," she whispered.
Morlai cleared his throat and looked around, seeing everyone bowed, he started: Grace, 1, Grace, 2, Grace 3, Grace 4, Grace 5. I think that is enough because I do not wish to make it too long or too short." Grace yelled, "Amen!"
The dad said, "son, I just asked you to pray." Morlai replied, Sir, I would have nearly left your daughter for the same reason. How so?" the dad inquired. In reply Morlaid said, the first night we were to do it, before I could start she pushed me off." Proudly, the dad said, "good girl, but how is that the same with what just happened?" Morlai replied, you don't want to know the story; she pushed me off because I did not say the Lords Prayer, now this.
Subject: Good!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:35:35 11/27/07 ()
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Ouw!
Subject: La Guinea!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 22:15:37 11/27/07 ()
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Message:
Yah!
Subject: Re: La Guinea!
From: Sheku Kallon
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Date Posted: 23:39:48 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: shekukal@yahoo.com
Entered From: c-76-105-124-181.hsd1.ga.comcast.net at 76.105.124.181
Message:
Thanks for the music. Soothing.
Subject: Sook!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:11:42 11/27/07 ()
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0l_I7uQE_M
Subject: What's Next After Elections?
From: Sheku Konneh
To: All
Date Posted: 21:58:43 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: skonneh2004@yahoo.com
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Message:
�What are your plans for Sierra Leone?
�Where is our country heading after the elections?
�What do you expect from the new government?
�How can the government improve Sierra Leone�s infrasture?
�What are the answers to the youth impoverishment in Sierra Leone?
�How can the government improve education in Sierra Leone?
If these and many other questions are reigning in your mind, then you are not alone. Youth for Sierra Leone Improvement in collaboration with the African Students Association at Bowie State University is inviting you - the Sierra Leonean community to come together to discuss and provide solutions to these issues. If you share the interests and the same passion that we at Youth for Sierra Leone Improvement have for Salone, then come have your say at our forum this Saturday!
Place: Wiseman Student Center
Bowie State University
Time: 1 to 4pm
Contact info: Sheku Konneh
Skonneh2004@yahoo.com (301) 793-8032
Mabel Clyle
ma.clyle@gmail.com
(240) 374-2597
Subject: TO ANTHONY SESAY, TRY TO KNOW WHAT U ARE TAKING ABOUT
From: No Nonsense
To: All
Date Posted: 21:34:56 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: non@yahoo.com
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Message:
In one of your posts when trying to blame the President for the violence in Muslim Congress you stated the following
" I cannot recall how many times such incidents happened under the SLPP regime"
This is indeed laughable. During the SLPP era Sierra Leoneans endured the worst form of brutality and you are saying you cant remember? To start with, the rebel war was in full swing during the SLPP era. That is a thousand times worse than what is happening today
Putting that aside, have you forgotten the 1998 DV fiasco? That was the first one during the SLPP days. Have you forgotten the violence that occured at every inter-secondary school sports from 1997 to date?. In 1997 several pupils were arrested anbd some were even arrested with pistols. Another pupil was killed in the National Stadium during the violence that ensued. What about the Bo school strike when they wanted their principal ousted? Have you forgotten 2004/2005 Albert academy strike? The list goes on and on. Why are some of you so hypocritical? What about the strike when Nigerians were accused of killing a fullah trader for his dollars? Have you forgotten the student strikes in Magburaka and mile 91 when a police station was burnt down. What about the Waterloo student strike in 2005? What about the FBC strike when they were agitating for a reduction in fees when the were attacked by the Police that led to other schools and colleges joining in the strike? I think you are out of touch with happenings in Sierra Leone or you would not have exposed your ignorance like that on this forum. When you want to state things here, make sure you know what you are talking about.
If you were tear gassed when you were in form one because you wanted to be a small Rambo, that is your business. Infact you look like someone who does not like law and order. The Police have a sacred duty to perform and if you and your ilk are punished because of your disrespect for the law, so be it. That does not warrant you to go around calling people names especially the President. He is by far a better man than you will ever become so please keep quiet and stop blaming him unnecessarily. You also think we have not been following your postings on this forum that why you had the audacity to claim you are not a supporter of the SLPP. Shame on you.
Subject: Re: TO ANTHONY SESAY, TRY TO KNOW WHAT U ARE TAKING ABOUT
From: Anthony Sisay
To: All
Date Posted: 07:05:39 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: anthonysisay@yahoo.com
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Message:
Exactly, you are right to say that I am out of touch with the happenings in Sierra Leone, may be you are talking of one of those days when we were at war and people would want to use it a a means to loot.
Yes you are right because all those happenings happened in the peak of the rebel war that started under the then APC regime.
We are not talking about a riot that has tentacles of rebel war but one that has no link and police are not professional enough to handle it.
Look. We are all children of SL. May be you are looking at it from the tribal point of view. But I am way too matured and far too intelligent to be embroiled in the shackles of tribalism.
We should all be looking at ways to make our people happy. I don't care who is in power--what I am interested in is that the harassment to our school kids be brought to a halt.
Kids should be protected by the government at all times and not bullied and maltreated by them.
Open your suggestion box for your customers�� comment because there could be a better guidance to help your government improve.
Subject: WE NEED BUBU KAMARA TO SERVE IN THE NEW APC
From: C.
To: All
Date Posted: 18:53:37 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: karimuhawa@yahoo.com
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Message:
We need Bubu Kamara of Somerset in New Jersey to serve in the administration of President EBK. Bubu Kamara is a strong supporter of the APC. It is no hidden secret that he was the chairman of the APC in North America in the 70's. Most people will agree with me that some influential politicians in the 'old APC' did not like him. Though, he contested the last election under the banner of the SLPP, but he is APC from the origin. I hope President Ernest Bai Koroma will give him a chance to serve. I believe he can perform. Over to you, Prezo EBK.
Subject: Re: WE NEED BUBU KAMARA TO SERVE IN THE NEW APC
From: Question
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Date Posted: 12:34:11 11/28/07 ()
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He is a strong supporter of EBK!!!!So he now seeks compensation for his support???Is that what you are saying Mr C B Kamara???For your information EBD has a million supporters in Salone, and what does he do???Appoint everyone a Minister??
Subject: Re: WE NEED BUBU KAMARA TO SERVE IN THE NEW APC
From: Issa Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:59:29 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: Issak@yahoo.com
Entered From: ool-18e415b2.dyn.optonline.net at 24.228.21.178
Message:
I wonder what paramater people are using to recommend Bubu K to serve Sierrs Leone. Well, he can serve the APC because that is the party of mediocres and those whose integrity are doubtful(LIKE LOGUS). Bubu swindled the money of the person who puts food on his table. The Fula merchant from Maryland was deprived of his money by chief Bubu(one contributing factor of his loss)and he used the cash to enter politics. The SLPP could not realise the curse on Bubu. He was given the party symbol now he is saying he was party chairman of the APC in the 70s;thank God he lost the election. The SLPP should praise God because He is filtering misfits in the party.
Let bubu k give account of the money that was stolen under his auspices. With the likes of Bubu in politics in Sierra Leone the country is doomed. He is now running away from hosting the SLPP meeting to solicit position in govt. Is Bubu trustworthy? The sooner APC is vanquished in 2012(certainly! looking at prevailing circumstances) Bubu will come back with his tail between his legs to the SLPP. This is political prostitution. Sierra Leone is not a dumping ground.
Subject: Re: WE NEED BUBU KAMARA TO SERVE IN THE NEW APC
From: O'toole
To: All
Date Posted: 20:08:06 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: otoolekargbo@yahoo.com
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Message:
I dont think its a good idea for him to serve under the banner of the apc,i think there are many ways he can serve the country if he BUBU want to serve the country.
Subject: Re: WE NEED BUBU KAMARA TO SERVE IN THE NEW APC
From: Safie Sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:18:38 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: softsaf@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: pool-71-163-112-230.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.163.112.230
Message:
I have known Bubu Kamara for sometime now and i found him to be credible. If at all he is given the opportunity to serve in the present gov., i am sure he will prove his mettle.
This is not a matter of which party he belongs but how much service he can render to the nation. Let the president give him a chance.
Sierra Leone does not belong to one political party.
Bubu is not the only political prostitute in Sierra Leone. President EBK give him a chance.
Thks.
Softsaf.
Subject: Re: WE NEED BUBU KAMARA TO SERVE IN THE NEW APC
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 23:11:03 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bubu Kamara is an honest and reliable man. He has been sending money for me for long and I have never had cause to complain. At times , if you are tied up by work and you call him that you need to send money through a sudden family emergency, Bubu will send it for you and allow you to come and pay after work. Bubu and his wife, Saffie, are perfoming a valuable service to this community. May God bless them and their family.
From what I am hearing though from you guys, I think if Bubu was APC to the core, he should have remained APC. In today's African politics, you try to be whom you are, except for exceptional cases like Charles Margai's , where your party underrates you and mistreats you. Margai was born SLPP,but the dead woods in the party , for reasons best known to themselves, chose Margai as the man to fight and antagonize. Margai had to show them that he is A MAN, in the African sense and he succeeded in showing the SLPP that you underrate a vibrant, vital and progressive collegue at your own peril. The SLPP will forever rue the day they decided to underrate and mistreat the Great Charlie Boy of Banta fame.
Other than that, you are already stigmatized as belonging to a party based on your surname or region of origin. You cannot undo the bigotry , prejudices and biases people have built up in their mindset.Some of us have always been labelled APC as far back as the 1970s .
If Bubu had contested under the APC ticket, he could have won. No ?
I however believe that the APC will take Bubu back into the fold, if it is true that he wants to return. If others who fought the party were accepted back and given top jobs , I see no reason why Bubu should not receive the same treatment, if he had been a committed member before, that is. . But does he want to jump ship ? Where is the evidence ? Did you guys speak to him ? It may all be false.
However, one thing about Bubu is not false--HE IS AN HONEST MAN AND I OWE HIM A DUTY TO PRAISE HIM IN THIS PUBLIC FORUM BECAUSE HE DESERVES IT . HE HAS PROVED HIS HONESTY TO THOSE OF US WHO PATRONIZE HIS MONEY-SENDING BUREAU AND FOR THIS I DOFF MY HAT TO HIM .
Subject: Re: WE NEED BUBU KAMARA TO SERVE IN THE NEW APC
From: O'toole
To: All
Date Posted: 08:27:45 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: otoolekargbo@yahoo.com
Entered From: adsl-074-184-006-099.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.184.6.99
Message:
Mr. kanu, can you please ask BUBU himself to find out what the so called OLD APC has done for him. Since he is an honest man he will tell you and make up your own mind from that, i know bubu since i was a kid and i know.
Subject: Re: WE NEED BUBU KAMARA TO SERVE IN THE NEW APC
From: smell campaign
To: All
Date Posted: 18:49:48 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: fishstale@msn.com
Entered From: c-71-224-131-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 71.224.131.184
Message:
I smell someone trying to get bubu a job. or is it bubu himself. both parties need to set examples stop letting our members be hookers. if your wife goes out and prostitutes because you aint treat her right. do u take her back? if u do then you are a weak man. forgive but dont give them posts. if you do that they woudl do it again because they know they woudl get away with it. this goes to both parties not just to bubu. this goes to all the bubu's out there.
Subject: Re: WE NEED BUBU KAMARA TO SERVE IN THE NEW APC
From: aratadokomot
To: All
Date Posted: 11:25:00 11/30/07 ()
Email Address: elvisk2004@yahoo.co.uk
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Message:
Wona lef this kind thing. bringing people down is not good. Wan thing Mr. Bubu Kamara do, he vowed for parliamentry position. He can be apc, slpp, nda pmdc it doesn't matter as long he will give his support or credntial to our mother land. wona they na ya hen think say everything is alright. wona not get mind for sacrifice for wona country and vow for any position. Na amirica wona da so. wona give the man the support he need if possible than wonna da talk bad thing. wona forget about party, tribal and jelousy. This na warning if not wo na go they na hay for long time and end up na nursing home. wona try for respect people/political person way go na salone for participate pa the election process even they win or loss. Mr Bubu, Mr. Alex mansaray, Dauda Thoronka-Mansaray, Foday Mansaray, Alie Kossay and Tunde lewallie make god help them. The true sa lone man.
Subject: Re: WE NEED BUBU KAMARA TO SERVE IN THE NEW APC
From: sedomluk
To: All
Date Posted: 20:18:10 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: abu@aol.com
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Message:
IF BUBU WANTS TO SERVE SALEONE THAT`S FINE, HE DOES NOT NEED TO BE APPOINTED BEFORE HE CAN SERVE SIERRA LEONE. PLEASE SHOW US WHAT HAS CONTRIBUTED TO SIERRA LEONE DEVELOPMENT OTHER THAN POCKETING CONTRACTING MONIES FROM SLPA AND PRISON . YES. THIS WAS DONE WHEN AFRC WAS IN POWER.
Subject: Sec. 6. of Ca. State Const states "Slavery is prohibited."
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:12:23 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS
SEC. 6. Slavery is prohibited. Involuntary servitude is prohibited
except to punish crime.
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS
SEC. 7. (a) A person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or
property without due process of law or denied equal protection of the
laws; provided, that nothing contained herein or elsewhere in this
Constitution imposes upon the State of California or any public
entity, board, or official any obligations or responsibilities which
exceed those imposed by the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th
Amendment to the United States Constitution
_______________________________________________________Go to section six of that constitution and 1st. Ammendment, 2nd. Ammendment and 14th. Ammendment of the U.S. Constitution.
Now talk to me!
_______________________________________________________
Subject: California Constitution ART 1 Declaration of Rights Sec. 2
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:00:19 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS
SECTION 1. All people are by nature free and independent and have
inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and
liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing
and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS
SEC. 2. (a) Every person may freely speak, write and publish his or
her sentiments on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of
this right. A law may not restrain or abridge liberty of speech or
press.
(b) A publisher, editor, reporter, or other person connected with
or employed upon a newspaper, magazine, or other periodical
publication, or by a press association or wire service, or any person
who has been so connected or employed, shall not be adjudged in
contempt by a judicial, legislative, or administrative body, or any
other body having the power to issue subpoenas, for refusing to
disclose the source of any information procured while so connected or
employed for publication in a newspaper, magazine or other
periodical publication, or for refusing to disclose any unpublished
information obtained or prepared in gathering, receiving or
processing of information for communication to the public.
Nor shall a radio or television news reporter or other person
connected with or employed by a radio or television station, or any
person who has been so connected or employed, be so adjudged in
contempt for refusing to disclose the source of any information
procured while so connected or employed for news or news commentary
purposes on radio or television, or for refusing to disclose any
unpublished information obtained or prepared in gathering, receiving
or processing of information for communication to the public.
As used in this subdivision, "unpublished information" includes
information not disseminated to the public by the person from whom
disclosure is sought, whether or not related information has been
disseminated and includes, but is not limited to, all notes,
outtakes, photographs, tapes or other data of whatever sort not
itself disseminated to the public through a medium of communication,
whether or not published information based upon or related to such
material has been disseminated.
Subject: what do you think of cheques on payday in saleone?
From: awoko
To: All
Date Posted: 17:54:22 11/27/07 ()
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Message:
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN IF SIERRA LEONE USE CHEQUES ON PAYDAY,DON`T YOU THINK PAYMASTERS WHO COLLECT MORE MONEY THAN NEEDED TO PAY SALARIES WILL STOP? LET EVERY WORKER OPEN AN ACCOUNT FOR DIRECT DEPOSIT .
Subject: Re: what do you think of cheques on payday in saleone?
From: TWO Sense
To: All
Date Posted: 18:33:21 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Some workers would like to have direct deposit. It will stop delays in them getting their salaries, and cut down on pay masters running away with their checks. The problem is the bank, banks in Sierra leone makes it so hard for the average worker to do so. For example, the minimum amount needed to open a bank accounts is 100,000 leones which should be in the customers account at all times. The average school teacher gets paid 150,000 leones, now tell me how does he/she suppose to feed her family when the bank takes 100,000 leones and one bag rice cost 70,000 leones.
Subject: Re: what do you think of cheques on payday in saleone?
From: chapman
To: All
Date Posted: 20:08:56 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: nabi@aol.com
Entered From: pool-72-66-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.26.251
Message:
we do not need any changes, if they bring changes we pay masters will not eat and we have to take care of our families. we will fight any change.
Subject: Re: what do you think of cheques on payday in saleone?
From: Tranga yays survivor
To: All
Date Posted: 03:57:07 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c80-216-76-32.bredband.comhem.se at 80.216.76.32
Message:
I will still send the 'die man' to open an account and arrange the rest with bank manager.No matter what ah go still chap smoothly Ha-ha-ha.
Subject: THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 17:20:15 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Who is he? UPDATING MY JAZZ ALBUMS.
Subject: Re: THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED
From: Basco
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:33 11/29/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Gil Scott-Heron. Make sure you get a couple of Miles Davies albums.
Subject: WITH EBK POWER RETURNS TO THE ORIGINAL SALONEANS!
From: Pedrodacintra
To: All
Date Posted: 17:10:50 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c80-216-76-32.bredband.comhem.se at 80.216.76.32
Message:
Now there is one part of our history that is being concealed for hundreds of years.But beleive me readers the truth always prevail and that is what I am going to reveal here after a thorough investigation.
Before Pedrodacintra and his cohorts embarked on the journey which took them to that part of west Africa which they claimed to have discovered in 1462,there already existed a place called ROKIAMP which turned out to be the present day FREETOWN.ROKIAMP was successively ruled and administered by temne chiefs who were the founders and guardians.
When Pedrodacintra and his entourage arrived at ROKIAMP they were welcomed by the chief and given a VIP treatment.Pedrodacintra introduced himself as someone seeking friends who can benefit from the white man.They promised to develop ROKIAMP to international standards and that it will be a great and powerful country in that part of the world.A deal was reached where the chief allowed Pedrdacintra to tell the world that he discovered Salone in exchange for the fulfilment of his promises.
Before the entourage left the chief deicded to impress them such that ROKIAMP will forever remain in their hearts.There was a big feast.The chief sought the services of other groups besides the temnes and they responded very well and did not let their leader down.The sherbros famous for their fishing skills provided the best fish,the lokkos famous for their horticultural skills provided potatoe and cassava leaves while the limba who were renowned palm wine tappers provided palm wine.There was a procession of bondo girls as well as the poro society.Pedrodacintra was so impressed that he gave guns,gun powder and other ammunitions to the chief as gifts.
During such period the mendes were roaming and fighting in a bid to conquer many lands to establish mendeland.On hearing about the rapport between Pedrodacintra and the chief of ROKIAMP,the mendes got some ideas.They thought if they could conquer ROKIAMP they will have the opportunity to grab all the good things the white man will bring.The mendes launch an attack from the sea but were not only repelled by the combined forces of the temnes,limbas and lokkos but were severely beaten to submission.Their leader begged to be allowed to stay at ROKIAMP as they were not willing to go back where they came from.Out of sympathy, the temne chief promised them a stay if only they go inland which turned out to be the southern part of present day Salone.
A lot of things happened which will be too long to discuss here.
The point I am trying to impress here is that with tribalism aside, the reality is, the temnes,limbas,sherbros and lokkos are the original Saloneans while the mendes came many ,many years after these tribes.With election of EBK to the state house,power has returned to the original rulers of Salone which started as ROKIAMP.
If the mendes are original Saloneans they would not have elected a guinean in disguise in the form of Tejan Kabba who gave away part of our land to his country of orign,Guinea.
Now I am waiting for the salvoes of tomahawk missiles from those who will feel offended.I am ready with my anti-missile defense system.
Subject: Re: WITH EBK POWER RETURNS TO THE ORIGINAL SALONEANS!
From: pa sorie kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 21:18:56 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: pkanu@comcast.net
Entered From: c-68-50-22-158.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 68.50.22.158
Message:
pedro,
I am sorry to dispute your assertions. As a student of history I will like to make a few corrections.
1.) The way your wrote his name gives the impression of either his first of last name i.e pasoriekanu. It should be correctly written as Pedro Da Cintra.
2.) The town Rokiamp never existed before Pedro set foot in what is now Freetown. The name Rokiamp came from name the Temnes called the settlement or "camp" that the Abolutionists leased from King Naimbana (Big or Great Naim) for the freed slaves. "Ro" means "place of" as in "Ro gbaneh" (place of meeting). Camp is a foreign word so they called it KIAMP. Hence the name ROKIAMP.
3.) The question of who is first to settle in Sierra Leone between the Mendes and Temnes is still up for debate.
Finally, we can get political in all our assertions. We should however try to get out facts right when trying to make a point. No offence>
Lontha ka da Bai.
Subject: Re: WITH EBK POWER RETURNS TO THE ORIGINAL SALONEANS!
From: Pedrodacintra
To: All
Date Posted: 01:57:54 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c80-216-76-32.bredband.comhem.se at 80.216.76.32
Message:
Buddy I know it very well that it should be Pedro Da Cintra but I thought every Salonean forumite will know who I was refering to and know the correct way of writing the name.Do you think you have made any significant correction here? No! Because not all forumites are not ostentatious like you who try to make a big deal out of everything small and insignificant thing.
Do you have any proof that Rokiamp never existed before the coming of Pedrodacintra? If so bring it on convincingly,I mean in the most scientific way.It is not just all about quoting a few lines from books like OUR SIERRA LEONE 1 and 2 written Talabi Aisie Lucan or A SHORT HISTORY OF SIERRA LEONE it is about exploring outside these two so as to avoid the limitations you are now faced with. That is what they taught us in elementary and high schools and that is what they want us to beleive but there is more to that.
Do you want to tell me that you believe there were no people in Salone before the arrival of Pedrodacintra?
If you will be so childish to believe so then you are biggest dumb ass in living memeory!
And let me tell you one thing,I know more about the temenes than you think you do- both history,culture and traditions.You studied history only at high school level and think you know.My advice for you is if you have not or are qualified enough, go to uni and broaden your horizons on the true history of your country which from your response,you have a limited knowledge about and based only on those two books I have mentioned earlier.
And finally it is a fact beyond dispute that the temnes were in Salone before not just the mendes but most tribes.How come most of the chiefs in Freetown were temnes? How come it was only Bai Bureh to object to the hut tax with the words MANTAYSOLLA meaning LET US REFUSE OR DISAGREE? Bai Bureh did so because he thought the land was theirs and have laboured too much to develop it.The mendes did not object because they did not know much about the land and cared very little about what happens to it.They were busy kissing the asses of the british and ended up getting a reward of one of them being appointed the first prime minister of Salone.
NO OFFENCE ORLANGBA BUT AVOID PISSING A KAIBAH LIKE ME OFF!
Subject: Re: WITH EBK POWER RETURNS TO THE ORIGINAL SALONEANS!
From: pa sorie kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 10:12:31 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: pkanu@comcast.net
Entered From: c-68-50-22-158.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 68.50.22.158
Message:
My dear brother, I am pleading that we do not get personal in exchanging ideas. I think you are so caught-up in me being contrary that you did not take time to read through them. I will limit my response to the issues at hand:
Now, let's look at my suggestions:
"1.) The way your wrote his name gives the impression of either his first of last name i.e pasoriekanu. It should be correctly written as Pedro Da Cintra."
Non-historans and/or Sierra Leoneans will have a problem understanding the name. My apologies.
"2.) The town Rokiamp never existed before Pedro set foot in what is now Freetown. The name Rokiamp came from name the Temnes called the settlement or "camp" that the Abolutionists leased from King Naimbana (Big or Great Naim) for the freed slaves. "Ro" means "place of" as in "Ro gbaneh" (place of meeting). Camp is a foreign word so they called it KIAMP. Hence the name ROKIAMP."
I never said indicated Pedro was there before the Temnes. The above quote states that the enCAMPment was LEASED FROM the Temnes (intentionally capitalized).
"3.) The question of who is first to settle in Sierra Leone between the Mendes and Temnes is still up for debate."
Again, I do not have enough information on this topic so I will defer to the more knowledgeable historians.
Mister, we can really get our points accross without resorting name calling. I do not appreciate your insinuations of me being "dumb" and my knowledge of history being limited to the myths and half-truths perpetuated by the likes of Christopher Fyfe (A short history of sierra leone). While I may be "dumb" in a lot of things, I deserve some credit for studying history beyond form five (O' Levels).
Indeed "MANTAYSOLLA" was Kebelais's mantra. Though the temnes of Kareneh (Kasseh) and those of Koya (present day Freetown (ROKIAMP)) are from the same ethnic group, they are located in separate areas. There is no evidence of the Koyas participation in the war because they were not in the protectorate and were therefore not subjected to the tax that caused the war.
While Kebelai (Bai Bureh) of Kasseh in the Kareneh Chiefdom was most gifted military strategist that ever lived, he did not fight the British alone. He organized and started the Temne revolt just before March, 1898. Momo Jah and mende "Poro" secret society joined the revolt by the end of March 1898. He did not only coordinate the efforts of the northern chiefs, he also frequently strategised with Momo Jah. Kebelai never wanted a war the settlers becuase they were trade partners so he limited his attacks to institutions of military significance (supply wagons, garrisons, forces e.t.c.). Momo Jah on the otherhand despised the settlers. Everything associated with the the Europeans was fair game. The colonial forces,
Missionaries, traders and even blacks dressed in European outfits were mercilessly attacked. I do not see any fraternization in that.
Kebelai deserves most of the credit for starting and organizing a very efficient campaign but the sudden and unexpected advent of Momo Jah gave the Colonial forces a lot of head-aches. When Colonial government sensed they could not win the war with military might, they resorted to sthe corch earth policy of burning rice fields and houses everywhere they felt threatened . The consumate tactician, Kebelai having realised the tremendous pain and suffering the British tactics were causing, called off the war with the famous words "the waa don don" (the war is over) (most European writers claim he was defeated and subsequently captured). Even, if he had defeated the British, he could not have been able to underwrite the raparation cost. Makes sense.
On the contrary Sir Milton did not get rewarded for kissing up to the the Europeans. He never liked the colonial governement in Freetown and that is evidenced by him spending most of his professional career praticing medicine in the provinces. He was however able to lead an effective independence movement with the likes of Smart, Taqi, Forna, Mustapha to name a few.
"NO OFFENCE ORLANGBA BUT AVOID PISSING A KAIBAH LIKE ME OFF! "
I never intended to make you angry and based on your writing, I will hate to offend a Kaibah like you. I love history and would like to learn from you but your language usage makes me nervous. Please keep it civil for the sake of world peace.
Lontha ka da Bai.
Peace Pa Sorie
Subject: Re: CORRECTION
From: Pedrodacintra
To: All
Date Posted: 03:49:40 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c80-216-76-32.bredband.comhem.se at 80.216.76.32
Message:
CORRECTION
No! Because not all forumites are not ostentatious like you who try to make a big deal out of everything small and insignificant thing.
SHOULD READ:
No! Because not all forumites are
ostentatious like you who try to make a big deal out of everything small and insignificant.
Subject: Re: WITH EBK POWER RETURNS TO THE ORIGINAL SALONEANS!
From: SGK
To: All
Date Posted: 23:32:28 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 91.84.136.50
Message:
Pa Sorie,
I am not a History student, but i can recall from my History lessons at the Prince Of Wales School when i was in form three that the mande came from the mande Empire lead by a woman called Queen Masariko who initially found a base in Liberia. Their motive was to recruit people in order to own a large potion of sub-sahara Africa.
However, they later came to Sierra Leone via Liberia with some of their recruits. These people from Liberia and those who joined their camp in Sierra Leone formed the mande tribe. But i am pretty sure, the temne, limba and loko were already settled in Sierra Leone before they came.
If you go to google and search tribe by tribe you would be able to conclude that the mende came after the temne, limba and loko.
No offence to any tribe but this is a very important and sensitive topic it would be good if we get our facts right.
This is the reason why i am unhappy at forumites who abuse people like Mr. Leigh. He could have been of great help to this topic.
Subject: Re: WITH EBK POWER RETURNS TO THE ORIGINAL SALONEANS!
From: Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 21:59:18 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h15.70.89.75.ip.alltel.net at 75.89.70.15
Message:
WOW, you just blow him out of the water.
Subject: Re: WITH EBK POWER RETURNS TO THE ORIGINAL SALONEANS!
From: Theodora Godwin
To: All
Date Posted: 10:58:26 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: theodoragodwin@yahoo.com
Entered From: adsl196-134-40-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma at 196.217.40.134
Message:
It is really a shame, when individuals who claim to be educated cannot discuss issues in a civil manner. Why the name calling? You guys have given us a good history lesson in the Discovery of Sierra Leone. There might be some inadequacies in the substance that was written, but does that really call for tribal sentiments to be reflected in your view points. We all know that "HISTORY" is an ADVANCED FORM OF STORY TELLING, OF EVENTS OF YESTER YEARS." The Best Narrator receives credence for his stated facts. Please let us be civil to each other. We do not wish for our Children and Grand Children to witness such petty actions amongst grown individuals, soMe of them read the news on Sierra Leone with the assistance of their parents and grand parents. Each passing day, we all live to learn. SIR MILTON MARGAI WAS NOT A BRITISH STOOGE. I am not a MENDE, TEMNE, SUSU, LIMBA, KISSI, KURANKOR, SHERBRO, YARLUNKAR, KONO, LIMBA (SAFROKOR OR ACUTEY,)MADINGO, LOKKO, OR CREOLE. I AM A SIERRA LEONEAN, "A CHILD OF THE MOST HIGH GOD." The moment every well meaning Sierra Leonean stop this line of demarcation and sectionalism, the sooner we will start to realize progress in our society. WE HAVE EMULATED THE COLONIAL MASTERS WHO WE SO SPITEFULLY RESENT, WE ARE USING THE SAME ATTRIBUTES, OF DIVIDE AND CONQUERTHAT THEY USED TO COLONIZE USE. WE EACH CAN LEARN FROM EACH OTHER. "PLEASE LET US START RESPECTING OUR ELDERS, BE THEY DEAD OR ALIVE." WITHOUT SOME OF THEIR THOUGHTS AND FORESIGHT, WE MAY NOT BE ALIVE TODAY. Thank You.
Subject: Re: WITH EBK POWER RETURNS TO THE ORIGINAL SALONEANS!
From: Theodora Godwin
To: All
Date Posted: 10:56:10 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: theodoragodwin@yahoo.com
Entered From: adsl196-134-40-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma at 196.217.40.134
Message:
It is really a shame, when individuals who claim to be educated cannot discuss issues in a civil manner. Why the name calling? You guys have given us a good history lesson in the Discovery of Sierra Leone. There might be some inadequacies in the substance that was written, but does that really call for tribal sentiments to be reflected in your view points. We all know that "HISTORY" is an ADVANCED FORM OF STORY TELLING, OF EVENTS OF YESTER YEARS." The Best Narrator receives credence for his stated facts. Please let us be civil to each other. We do not wish for our Children and Grand Children to witness such petty actions amongst grown individuals, so,e of them read the news on Sierra Leone with the assistance of their parents and grand parents. Each passing day, we all live to learn. SIR MILTON MARGAI WAS NOT A BRITISH STOOGE. I am not a MENDE, TEMNE, SUSU, LIMBA, KISSI, KURANKOR, SHERBRO, YARLUNKAR, KONO, LIMBA (SAFROKOR OR ACUTEY,)MADINGO, LOKKO, OR CREOLE. I AM A SIERRA LEONEAN, "A CHILD OF THE MOST HIGH GOD." The moment every well meaning Sierra Leonean stop this line of demarcation and sectionalism, the sooner we will start to realize progress in our society. WE HAVE EMULATED THE COLONIAL MASTERS WHO WE SO SPITEFULLY RESENT, WE ARE USING THE SAME ATTRIBUTES, OF DIVIDE AND CONQUERTHAT THEY USED TO COLONIZE USE. WE EACH CAN LEARN FROM EACH OTHER. "PLEASE LET US START RESPECTING OUR ELDERS, BE THEY DEAD OR ALIVE." WITHOUT SOME OF THEIR THOUGHTS AND FORESIGHT, WE MAY NOT BE ALIVE TODAY. Thank You.
Subject: TO SENGBE
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 17:07:37 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-49-205-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.49.205.105
Message:
"Loggy the point I am trying to make, and one of the main points raised in Saloneman's quote, is that we can blame the government of the day all we want, but it is very difficult to rule a diverse set of folks like we have in Sa Lon, and Africa, in general, with the type of attitudes we have relative to our personal responsibilities, and civic duties. The governors are from the governed, you know. Remember that!"
(Sengbe)
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Sengbe, the point you are trying to make above only reenforce what SLPP critics have been saying all along: THAT THE SLPP LACKED LEADERSHIP ABILITIES.
If it is difficult to rule such a diverse set of folks why did the SLPP in the first place accept the challernge?
Once again Sengbe, I am saying to you that the SLPP failed to enforce current and workable laws, failed to enact new and workable ones, and finally, failed to scrap old and unproductive ones. Besides, a government that blames the attitude of its subjects is doomed for failure and the SLPP proved just that; and if anything, it is a "do-nothing" government.
Subject: Re: TO SENGBE
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 18:07:34 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-49-205-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.49.205.105
Message:
To be fair to you Sengbe, I think I owe you a response to the following:
"We must thank him (Prez Kabba) for his
democratic resilience in
governance under the prevailing
circumstances the nation found
itself to be in throughout his rule".
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Indeed we must thank Pa Kabba for his democratic resilience under such circumstances. But should we extent the same to the rest of the administration?
I will assume your answer is no; but also will not be surprised for a yes answer and this is why:
(1) Kabba appointed the NEC commish to conduct a fair election but you and the rest of the SLPP now have negative outlooks on her performance.
(2)The U.N. was the toast of the town after the war. Now, all of a sudden, they are being toasted by your SLPP as agents against the SLPP.
(3)The Hinga Norman story is one we both know about and I will only reference it.
(4) Because of Kabba, a chunk of the Northern vote went to the SLPP during his reelection. He appointed a diverse cabinet but oh lord, many SLPP members cannot handle diversity. What happened, the SLPP split.
Man I can give as many reasons why the past administration is being perceived as a do-nothing party. But like I said earlier, the "illiterate" people of Salong has spoken with their ballots and the SLPP must now work very hard at the opposing aisle of parliament to have a chance next time.
Subject: CONGRATS KABS (if my instincts are right!)
From: Tabaca
To: All
Date Posted: 15:35:21 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
I read on the main page of Cocorioko that the Position of Director of Communications and Press Secretary to the President has been filled by a veteran journalist from the U.S. My guess is that it has to be LeeRoy. If that turns out correct......I want to extend my Heart-Felt Congratulations to you. You are making a big sacrifice by leaving your teaching position here in the U.S. to serve you country.
Judging from your contributions thus far, i.e. this forum and the Cocorioko News website in addition to your personal life of being a teacher and church minister and family man, I am confident that your will do a job that I will be proud of. Hopefully a majority of forumites may agree with me. On behalf of myself and my family, good luck and please execute your duties to the best of your abilities. I also pray that your enemies live long so that they can see the fruits of your contributions to nation building.
Good Luck bro...
Subject: Re: CONGRATS KABS (if my instincts are right!)
From: FORREST GUMP
To: All
Date Posted: 04:33:17 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-153-198-217.range81-153.btcentralplus.com at 81.153.198.217
Message:
Nar him get am,you nor yerri the back tok wey he gee BRA MUS, if he hart you die, we go berr you.wey he congratulate am for watin he yerri. Yes Rev, the man of God we hope you will be true to yourself. CONGRATS
FORREST
Subject: Re: CONGRATS KABS (if my instincts are right!)
From: Tabaca
To: All
Date Posted: 13:42:14 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
FORREST GUMP,
Bra Mus deserved Kabs' response. He was outright sarcastic and therefore, Kabbs' sarcastic response is most appropriate. Lets be real and fair.
Subject: Eagle Eyes Final Private Viewing
From: Sheku Kallon
To: All
Date Posted: 13:18:16 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: shekukal@yahoo.com
Entered From: nbrds1494.accenture.com at 170.252.248.204
Message:
See the private screening for eagle eyes. A movie by Jimmy B and filmed in Sierra Leone. Come out and support your very own Sierra Leone brothers. Minimum donation is $50.00. It's not about the money, it's about supporting Sierra Leone movie industry. The star Jimmy B will be there.
Check out http://www.saloneplace.com/
Subject: To all folks who have not been Home for some time...
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 13:06:31 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-17-83.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.17.83
Message:
COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT IS 'KABBA KOOL-AID?
Subject: SLPP unsavour "One Country, One People" mentality
From: saloneboy
To: All
Date Posted: 10:15:56 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: dhcp-077-250-219-206.chello.nl at 77.250.219.206
Message:
SLPPers who use Sierra Leone's South East corner to characterize tribalism as a way to take power must be ashamed of themselves. They have made an accurate descr1ption of a demoralizing challenge to steal the jpy of the APC.
The majority of SLPPers are not able or willing to forsake their tribal allegiances.
Sadly, the literate SLPPers. create lies because their party is not in power and they lose the opportunity to benefit when the SLPP was in power.
The SLPPers need to admit that by nature they are tribalistic and this in itself is bad for Sierra Leone.
The SLPPers weaken the Sierra Leonean family and thus weaken the nation. For one to have allegiance to a nation the benefits must outweigh those of belonging to a tribe. The SLPPers eleven years rule defined Sierra Leoneans only in paper. This scizophrenic action by the SLPP permeates Sierra Leone to be the worst Country to live.
Allegiance to the tribal and regional structures are often hostile and not relevant.
The SLPP needs to hibernate/
Subject: Re: SLPP unsavour "One Country, One People" mentality
From: Pedrodacintra
To: All
Date Posted: 03:52:32 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: c80-216-76-32.bredband.comhem.se at 80.216.76.32
Message:
So true! I founded Salone because I wanted a country of united inhabitants but these foreigners have disappointed me!
Subject: ANOTHER BLOOD SUCKER GOES DOWN
From: Peter
To: All
Date Posted: 09:37:57 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:14:43 -0500
Subject: [asa-usa] ANOTHER BLOOD SUCKER GOES DOWN.
Can anyone find out whether ICE can also deport those behind Nigerian Policy Institute (NPI) and Ikenna? Inquiry mind wants to know. And instead of adding anyone into our Hall of Shame, we might well get ICE to deport them.
Board: Deny U.S. Residency to African
Board: Deny U.S. Residency to African
Published: 11/26/07, 10:05 PM EDT
By ELIZABETH WHITE
SAN ANTONIO (AP) - An African immigrant should be denied permanent U.S. residency because evidence shows he knew about the executions of 29 counterrevolutionaries in 1992 and continued to serve in the Sierra Leone government, an immigration appeals board ruled.
Samuel Komba Kambo, a legal immigrant, spent nearly a year in jail while fighting deportation as the government tried to revoke his visa. He was released from custody in October after a U.S. district judge ruled that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement was violating his due process rights.
Kambo, 39, was part of a military government that took power in a bloodless coup in Sierra Leone in 1992. He has denied any involvement with the killings, which occurred after his government was in power.
The federal Board of Immigration Appeals said in a decision dated Wednesday that while Kambo may not have "directly participated in or actively assisted in" the 1992 killings, there is enough evidence to establish that he was "aware of these events and remained passive, continuing to serve in a leadership post" in the provisional government.
Kambo, a fuels analyst with a graduate degree from the University of Texas, has been living in Austin for the past 14 years with his wife and four U.S.-born children.
"While (Kambo's) conduct during his residence in the United States may have been commendable, it is not sufficient to offset the egregiousness of the adverse factors he presents," said the board of the Executive Office for Immigration Review.
The board heard the case on appeal from the Department of Homeland Security after an immigration judge granted Kambo's application for permanent residency in June.
The board said the judge was wrong to grant Kambo's application "in the exercise of discretion," which involves balancing factors for and against an applicant.
The case was sent back to the immigration judge, Gary Burkholder, said Simon Azar-Farr, Kambo's attorney. Azar-Farr, who said he received the decision Monday, said he will look at other possible ways for Kambo to get residency.
"Mr. Kambo can feel very proud that he was vindicated by the board of the accusation that he had participated in the extrajudicial killings," Azar-Farr said. "In this regard the government's accusation has failed."
Messages left for Immigration and Customs Enforcement and the U.S. attorney's office in Texas that is handling the case were not returned Monday.
Subject: Re: ANOTHER BLOOD SUCKER GOES DOWN
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 05:34:22 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
The evil that men do lives after them;
The good is oft interred with their bones.
~ William Shakespeare, Julius Caesar. Act III, scene ii
Subject: Re: ANOTHER BLOOD SUCKER GOES DOWN
From: Hashim Daboh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:42:12 11/28/07 ()
Email Address: Gboyama@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: host86-141-219-193.range86-141.btcentralplus.com at 86.141.219.193
Message:
And so ! yet we all ( probably those of us who never benefited from the APC loots ,and who were left out of the NPRC chopping ) have still refused to make statement on the APC -Jim Fornah and co slaughter ,Minah and co. What about the Bo 77 massacre and the northern walaha involving late Thaimu and others . it's high time some of us wake up to reality. The same proposition you guys tend to pursue on the NPRC leadership was almost the same theory Kabbah and Berewah used to condemn Norman to his grave. Stop this crazy jokes about others who fall foul with your personal influences.
Subject: Re: ANOTHER BLOOD SUCKER GOES DOWN
From: Tabaca
To: All
Date Posted: 15:19:28 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Peter,
I wonder why you will label S K Kambo as a " Blood Sucker". I am very sure that you donot even know this kid. You know we Sierra Leoneans are very good at bringing others down but very bad at uplifting others or ourselves. We thrive in negativity. What a disease!
I am sure you were one of those folks that were happy for the NPRC when they overthrew the old APC of Momoh. But now you are one of the people jubilating over Kambo's apparent bad luck. I can assure you that Komba will beat this "rap", and thrive here in the USA. If he chooses, he can return to S/L today and survive equally well.
If you can not help a brother, for God's sake don't help bring him dowm.
Subject: Re: ANOTHER BLOOD SUCKER GOES DOWN
From: BAMBAY AND THE REST
To: All
Date Posted: 18:12:58 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-69-232-222-149.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net at 69.232.222.149
Message:
I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST KAMBO. MY TAKE IS THAT HE SERVED IN A REGIME THAT KILLED INOCENT SIERRA LEONEANS. HE MAY NOT HAVE PULLED THE TRIGGER BUT HE IS EQUALY GUILTY. HE CONTINUED TO SERVE IN THE REGIME. ON TOP OF ALL THAT HE STOLE MONEY FROM US, S/LEONEANS TO FINANCE HIS EDUCATION.
WELL, HE HAS FINISHED HIS STUDIES SO LET HIM GO BACK TO FREETOWN AND PAY US BACK BY WORKING FOR THE GOV.
Subject: Re: ANOTHER BLOOD SUCKER GOES DOWN
From: old school
To: All
Date Posted: 19:01:43 11/29/07 ()
Email Address: oldschool@msn.com
Entered From: c-71-224-131-184.hsd1.nj.comcast.net at 71.224.131.184
Message:
every govt in salone has at a point in time killed" innocent citizens" . when it affects us directly then we cry. in order to see progress i say we get rid of the death sentence or we try to make our judicial system work. any ideas?
Subject: Re: ANOTHER BLOOD SUCKER GOES DOWN
From: Hashim Daboh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:53:25 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: Gboyama@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: host86-141-219-193.range86-141.btcentralplus.com at 86.141.219.193
Message:
Is this same group going to take Kabbah and Berewah to task for the slaughter of senior military personnel after his kangaroo court hearing . Hope someone will hear late kula Samba and co. wailing in the horizon . What about the APC for Minah and others.
I have no regret to emphatically state here that since 1961 the best thing to ever come our way was the emergence of the NPRC . Let any sane and honest Sierra Leonean tabulate the excesses and pluses of the NPRC , the past APC and the SLPP of Tejan . I see why Kabbah held hostage for over a decade - just a nation of some troubled thinkers. Without NPRC none of us won't be talking about democratic progress . But you know what ,some of know exactly who're those hell bent on these guys. You belong to the Ekutay class or else who dare to have stand Pa. Shaki for Fornah and co. or late Momoh for Minah and co. Are we really serious about a forward march .
Subject: Re: ANOTHER BLOOD SUCKER GOES DOWN
From: bye bye kombo kombo
To: All
Date Posted: 13:41:27 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
http://www.macon.com/nation//story/196867.html
Subject: KABS
From: BRA MUS
To: All
Date Posted: 09:31:38 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-70-17-89-150.res.east.verizon.net at 70.17.89.150
Message:
Kabs,
we all benn no say nar wok you dey hustle. You heart don col now?
Subject: Re: KABS
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 12:46:32 11/27/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-152-73.patmedia.net at 24.225.152.73
Message:
If e hart you , die . We go berr you.
Subject: Re: KABS
From: Independent Journeyalist
To: All
Date Posted: 06:59:07 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.4
Message:
You drop bad..... All the CRY about independence, you were LAY BELLEHING for a job within the APC CROOKS.. Aye bo how you TAN so BAH?
Subject: Re: KABS
From: BUFORD HWY
To: All
Date Posted: 09:23:16 11/28/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-074-228-219-218.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.228.219.218
Message:
"You drop bad....."
In what sense Mr IJ? Is it a crime for your ARATA party to be kicked out by the PEN of the REV?
" All the CRY about independence, you were LAY BELLEHING for a job within the APC CROOKS.. "
Lay bellehism belongs to your SLPP tiff tiff and ARCATA OLU members for suppoting a government that took our beloved Salone from the ANTHENS OF WEST AFRICA to Last KAKA BOKIT of the UN HUMAN INDEX.
Kabbs took the stand of calling for a CHANGE for the betterment of MAMA SALONE,whilst you BLIND SLPP ARATAS were calling for the CONTINUATION of the WORST government to ever RULE SALONE.Now who is the CROOK,REV KANU or you and your aratas?
Subject: Re: KABS
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 10:42:41 11/28/07 ()
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"ANTHENS OF WEST AFRICA to Last KAKA BOKIT of the UN HUMAN INDEX".
Who did the above? was it not under your Corrupt APC government that we went from Noble to Plebien.--Natin?
Me man take ten nor... aye bo...
Subject: Re: KABS
From: BUFORD HWY
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Date Posted: 11:07:03 11/27/07 ()
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ASHAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
EERIE BUOSHO!!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: KABS
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 06:51:23 11/28/07 ()
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Bra nar so? You bobor dae nar De Groun... F/Town
Subject: Re: KABS
From: BUFORD HWY
To: All
Date Posted: 08:55:49 11/28/07 ()
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I was in Freetown since FRIDAY to pick some GREIN GREIN,OGIRI,KAYDA,KAEYA(RESSE and GARI),and BOLUGI for my AMERICAN TANIBOLA.I am now in Dakar for my direct flight to Atlanta.Ar ben feel say u don go back,but ee look leh say u dae enjoy wit PA BEREWA and WE half(money).Man ben just go dae for de weekend becos one me aunty sick so man go take am leh man go see watin babylon go do for help.
Subject: APC, a party of difference!
From: Salone boy
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Date Posted: 09:20:16 11/27/07 ()
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Today, I find time to read Cocorioko front page. It is rich with news stories. Story in a sense that it talks about the electricity road for revamp.
My own piece of advice in reading along the line, from Dr Kalokoh's vision is for the NPA management to provide scholarships for kids whom Parents work there. Incentives like soap, milk powder, boot, weekly stipend will not allow the workers to involve in thievery act.
CCTV can also be planted in case of any eventuality. This APC will succeed. The people they have put into their train are real Patriots.
This is what Dr kalokoh says, Dr. Zubairu mentioned that NPA has to have a maintenance schedule to ensure the proper running of the plants.
He added that the management has put measures in place to motivate workers to enable them to keep the machines in good conditions.
Bingo.
Encourage our poor brethren.
Subject: Re: APC, a party of difference!
From: SIK
To: All
Date Posted: 09:40:00 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: skoroma@hotmail.com
Entered From: lgrt-122.dhcp.umass.edu at 128.119.230.122
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I agree with you my brother! 'Responsible' NPA workers will resort to stealing ONLY when they have family pressures, say buying lunch for their kids, and meeting other related family welfare. If there are incentives that could assist them obviate these pressures, I'm confident they would do their best in the execution of their duties: NO STEALING OF OIL, PARTS, ETC.EVEN NPA PALANPOS WILL JUST FIT IN WELL!
Subject: Sierra Leone last in "human development"
From: Town Crier
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Date Posted: 08:25:45 11/27/07 ()
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BRASILIA (Reuters) - Iceland has overtaken Norway as the world's most desirable country to live in, according to an annual U.N. table published on Tuesday that again puts AIDS-afflicted sub-Saharan African states at the bottom.
Sierra Leone is mentioned as being last in the human development index. See link for full article
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone last in "human development"
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 09:21:44 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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The word of God as I know it says that some things only happen by prayer and fasting. With that said, this should be a caution for those of us who know the words of prayer and especially those who have the gifts of intercession and faith. The planning is great, the policy work is just fine, but one thing that will work more effectively than all of that is prayer. For those on this forum who have struggled to identify something they can do to help Sierra Leone, prayer is the one thing we can collectively do for the country. I would like to propose to those who will that we establish a time and day each week to pray and agree for the progress of Sierra Leone and its leaders.
Subject: Re: Sierra Leone last in "human development"
From: Salone boy
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Date Posted: 09:24:10 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: beresjay@yahoo.co.uk
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Thank you my brother. May God bless you.
Subject: The National Electoral Commision
From: Salone Observer
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Date Posted: 01:07:19 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: lanfia@j2ltd.net
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With a view to forestalling any attempts at "gerrymandering" this Institution, should it not be composed of representatives from Political Parties that attain a minimum percentage of votes in preceding national elections ? A respected and independent Citizen of integrity could then be elected by this BODY as Chairman. The Technocrats would be appointed from the senior ranks of the Civil Service. The hiring and firing of the latter would be within the remit of the Public Service Commision. Forumites may suggest additional ideas aimed at the ultimate creation of an independent BODY, as opposed to the rather messy one we now have.
Subject: Re: The National Electoral Commission
From: Salone Observer
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Date Posted: 01:22:08 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: lanfia@j2ltd.net
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Above subject should read: THE NATIONAL ELECTORAL COMMISSION. Cheers! Salone Observer.
Subject: DUAL NATIONALITY
From: SGK
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Date Posted: 01:04:20 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
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Can someone please explain to me the importance of a dual citizenship? Why does a Sierra Leonean living in the diaspora with a foreign passport require a visa to go to his/her country? What benefit/advantage can someone derive from becoming a dual national of Sierra Leone? Has it been implemented yet? If it has been, can someone please give me a brief knowledge on this topic with reference to Sierra Leone.
Your response/contribution is highly appreciated.
Yours,
SGK.
Subject: Re: DUAL NATIONALITY
From: sierra leonean- ICELANDer
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Date Posted: 20:29:05 11/27/07 ()
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from the first to the bottom, I just sent my passport for a Sierra Leone visa and the guys were kind enoughto give me for one year visa, thanks to you guys at the embassy, now I can come and go between freetown and Rejavik for a whole year enjoy hot and cold weather at my spare time and enjoy my retirement package,.
Subject: Re: DUAL NATIONALITY - Hope this helps.
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 08:45:55 11/27/07 ()
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This issue was debated and rested a while back by us in another forum..
700 + signatories to the petition and tendered to parliament..
http://www.petitiononline.com/4USALONE/petition.html
SLPP acted on it..
YES SLPP. They signed the bill into law in early 2007.
We are now working on the freedom of information act.
And APC is dragging its feet..
Get a clearer picture here..
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=203&KW=dual+citizenship&PN=1
http://forum.visitsierraleone.org/forum_posts.asp?TID=203&KW=dual+citizenship&PID=22217#22217
Subject: Re: DUAL NATIONALITY - Hope this helps.
From: SGK
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Date Posted: 13:28:15 11/27/07 ()
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Candid,
Thank you for the above links. Your effort is always appreciated. I have read through them and they are very educative.
God Bless.
Subject: Re: DUAL NATIONALITY
From: Naive
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Date Posted: 04:23:12 11/27/07 ()
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You appear very naive.Do you know the number of Nigerians, who have migrated to UK and USA with Salone passports - the number is in millions.
Subject: Re: DUAL NATIONALITY
From: nyandadiamoh
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Date Posted: 07:21:30 11/27/07 ()
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My dear he just asked a question. why don't you answer the question?
Subject: Re: DUAL NATIONALITY
From: SGK
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Date Posted: 12:05:07 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
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Thank you my sister. Sometimes i start wondering which planet some of these guys come from.
I asked for help and he is asking me another question.
Why should i have asked if i simply knew the answer?
I think we need to change our attitude and mentality.
I personally i am in this forum to gain knowledge and give knowledge where possible. Moreover, i would be learning till i enter my grave. I am willing to accept knowledge from anyone, even from my children.
Subject: Re: DUAL NATIONALITY
From: KONOPADY
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Date Posted: 01:20:35 11/27/07 ()
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Dual nationality is up an runing. Basically the dual nationa;lity in sierra leone entitles you to have an other nationality in addition to you being a sierra leonean; as such you can hold both a sierra leonean citizenship and the citizenship of a second country. What dual citizenship does not allow you to do is to enter sierra leone on a non-ecowas passport without visa. so if you dont want to f***out a visa fee my advise is use you sierra leonean passport.
Subject: Re: DUAL NATIONALITY
From: MMJ
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Date Posted: 03:16:26 11/27/07 ()
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Can an American passport holder enter Sierra Leone and get a visa at the airport in Freetown?
Subject: Re: DUAL NATIONALITY
From: nyandadiamoh
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Date Posted: 07:23:04 11/27/07 ()
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Yes but you will pay double the amount, my dear please get it before u leave the US
Subject: Re: DUAL NATIONALITY
From: SGK
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Date Posted: 01:34:26 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 91.84.136.50
Message:
Your message is clear and well understood.
Thank your very much.
Subject: The Death of American Manufacturing
From: NEWS
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Date Posted: 21:06:40 11/26/07 ()
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Globalization and outsourcing are hammering our icons of industry. By Robert Morley
For over a half century, American manufacturing has dominated the globe. It turned the tide in World War ii and hastened the defeat of Nazi Germany; it subsequently helped rebuild Europe and Japan; it enabled the United States to outlast the Soviet empire in the Cold War. At the same time, it met all the material needs of the American people.
During this period, many American icons were born. Companies like General Motors, Ford, Boeing, Maytag and Levi Strauss became household names. American manufacturing became synonymous with quality and ingenuity.
On the back of this industrial output rose America�s middle class. High-paying manufacturing jobs, in turn, helped spur a robust and growing economy that depended little on foreign nations for manufactured goods and armaments.
However, manufacturing as a share of the economy has been plummeting. In 1965, manufacturing accounted for 53 percent of the economy. By 1988 it only accounted for 39 percent, and in 2004, it accounted for just 9 percent.
Considering the stupendous list of America�s manufacturing achievements and the vulnerabilities associated with foreign dependence when a nation lacks strong domestic manufacturing, it is alarming when economists are warning that the U.S. is facing the �gutting, hollowing out and closing down of American manufacturing forever� (Benson�s Economic & Market Trends, Feb. 27, 2004).
Job Losses
The loss of the manufacturing industry manifests itself most clearly in job losses. According to the Economist, �For the first time since the Industrial Revolution, fewer than 10 percent of American workers are now employed in manufacturing� (Oct. 1, 2005). But even this figure is probably double the actual percentage, because many workers in a typical manufacturing firm have service-type jobs. In comparison, during the 1970s, approximately 25 percent of American workers were employed in manufacturing. From 1990 to present, manufacturing jobs have decreased every single year; since 1996, they have plummeted by almost one fifth.
Most recently, these job losses and the hollowing out of American manufacturing have been evidenced in the auto industry.
On Nov. 21, 2005, General Motors Corporation (gm) announced plans to cut 30,000 jobs and close nine manufacturing plants across North America. According to its ceo, the decision represented an attempt to �get its costs in line with major global competitors� and �return North American operations to profitability as soon as possible� (Associated Press, Nov. 21, 2005). Following these cuts, gm will have laid off 40 percent of its white-collar staff since 2000.
In a reflection of the resultant loss of confidence in the company, last May gm�s debt (sold as bonds) was downgraded by s&p from investment grade to the highest level of junk status; in September, it was downgraded even further. Now it is five steps below investment grade. Analysts even recommend selling gm stock, with one Bank of America Securities analyst saying it was �inevitable� that gm would eventually seek bankruptcy protection (cnn/Money, Dec. 16, 2005).
gm�s layoffs exclude the cuts announced by former gm-owned auto parts maker Delphi, which filed for bankruptcy protection last October. In 1999, Delphi laid off 18,000 workers. Now it is reportedly seeking to cut two thirds of its 34,000 hourly workers and slash hourly wages from as much as $30 per hour to as little as $10.
Ford, another American icon, has been slashing jobs too. According to Forbes, Ford could cut up to 30,000 jobs and close 10 plants (Dec. 7, 2005).
Egan-Jones Ratings Co., an independent firm, is predicting that �[t]his is the beginning of the end of the U.S. auto industry as most people have come to know it� (TheStreet.com, May 5, 2005).
However, the auto industry is just one example of the overall decline in American industrial might over the past couple of decades. Other U.S. manufacturing giants are failing, too; in fact, the U.S. has lost 3 million manufacturing jobs just since 1998. In 2003, industrial giant Bethlehem Steel folded, causing thousands of employees and retirees to lose their pensions. Any Pittsburgh resident would be able to tell you how unprofitable the steel industry has been over the last 20 or so years. Between 1950 and 2000, the U.S. lost more than 491,000 jobs from the primary metals industry alone�most of those after 1980; from 2000 to 2003, an additional 149,000 of these jobs vaporized. In 2004, Levi Strauss closed the last of its more than 60 American factories. �It was like a death in the family,� said Emma Rice, of Morrilton, Arkansas, who worked for Levi Strauss for 32 years (Times, London, Jan. 10, 2004). Unfortunately, the former Levi-employed majority of Morrilton tell the same tale as those from thousands of towns across America that have also experienced the loss of manufacturing jobs.
But why is this happening?
Outsourcing
Manufacturing loss is occurring because of globalization and outsourcing. Globalization is the increased mobility of goods, services, labor, technology and capital throughout the world; outsourcing is the performance of a production activity in another country that was previously done by a domestic firm or plant.
At the dawn of globalization, the elimination of trade barriers opened up access to foreign markets for American manufacturers in return for building factories abroad. In due course, more and more manufacturers set up shop overseas, producing goods to be sold to Americans. Today, the trend is so severe, analysts predict that in some industries, a quarter to a half of all jobs are likely to migrate (Daily Reckoning, Aug. 5, 2005).
With the birth of the North American Free Trade Agreement in 1994, Mexico became a major recipient of outsourced U.S. manufacturing jobs. Mexico is now a global leader in auto parts manufacturing and one of the world�s largest tv set producers. Now, with the startup of the Central American Free Trade Area (cafta) this January, analysts are anticipating another exodus of U.S. jobs to south of the border. U.S. household names such as Dell, ibm, Sara Lee/Hanes and Maytag have already been moving business into the Central American region.
Asia has also been a long-time recipient of outsourced American manufacturing. A study by the universities of Cornell and Massachusetts-Amherst found that India alone may be responsible for up to 700,000 outsourced jobs. China has also received hundreds of thousands of outsourced jobs.
Admirers of globalization contend that freer access to foreign markets and cheap labor increase corporate profits and thereby benefit the U.S. economy. While this argument may superficially sound compelling, it ignores the dangerous long-term effects of manufacturing losses. In reality, outsourcing makes Americans poorer over time, because America�s wealth and technology slowly migrate to other nations.
In the words of the Daily Reckoning, �Historically, manufacturing, exporting and direct investment produced prosperity through income creation� (April 4, 2003). America�s wealth grew when profits from domestic manufacturing were reinvested into buildings, machinery and technological change. But now outsourcing is diverting that income to foreigners.
America may gain access to cheaper products through outsourcing, but it also comes with attendant problems, including a downward pressure on wages. Laid-off manufacturing laborers are largely switching into lower-paying jobs in the service industry. Where they once made an average of $51,000 annually, they now make $16,000 in leisure and hospitality, $33,000 in health care, or $39,000 in construction (Seattle Times, op. cit). In 2004, average employee compensation in the U.S. fell for the first time in 14 years.
If America does not manufacture and sell goods, then money only leaves the country. The U.S. now imports twice as much as it exports. This has resulted in a trade deficit that has ballooned to an unprecedented $800 billion on an annualized basis. Unfortunately, this trend shows no signs of abating. U.S. exports are declining versus imports all across the board. Even agriculture posted a deficit this past year for the first time in living memory.
Every time an American manufacturer closes and then reopens elsewhere, the foreign country gains American technology. Not having to spend resources developing technology, foreigners can focus on improving or beating it.
Many developing nations, especially China and India, are notorious for their lack of intellectual and technological property rights. According to David Pritchard, a research associate at State University of New York, American companies are hastening their demise by sharing valuable technology with foreign governments intent on setting up their own industries. This is exactly what is happening with aircraft manufacturer Boeing, which has been outsourcing labor in China, Japan and other countries.
Globalization admirers contend that because the work forces of developing nations are unskilled, they cannot compete with the U.S.; thus, only low-end, low-skill jobs are lost to outsourcing. However, this is not true. The Asian workforce, in particular, has made huge strides. According to Fortune magazine, in the next year China will produce 3.3 million university graduates, all of whom speak English. India too will turn out 3.1 million English-speaking graduates. Furthermore, in engineering alone �China�s graduates will number over 600,000, India�s 350,000, America�s only about 70,000 (July 25, 2005). These graduates are beginning to fill more than just low-end, low-skill jobs.
Regarding the effect of this labor shift on manufacturing, economist Richard Benson relates that whether you build a factory here or in China, the factory will be the same and the workers will have similar skills, but the main difference is that �the Chinese will work seven days a week for us$0.50 to us$1 an hour with no benefits for social security, health care, vacations, a pension or worker safety. � In America, the going wage would be 10 to 20 times higher including all benefits� (Benson�s Economic & Market Trends, op. cit.). It�s not hard to see why, in order to reduce costs, manufacturing businesses have been abandoning America in droves and fleeing to Asia.
Many Americans did not take notice in the beginning, because it was only the low-paid manufacturing workers making toys, shoes and clothing that lost their jobs to cheap foreign competition. But next to go were the higher-paid shipbuilders and steel producers; now it is auto workers and others.
Continually moving further up the value chain, the Los Angeles Times says that even highly skilled, higher-paid American workers are starting to feel the outsourcing pinch. Jobs such as engineers, computer software scientists, Hollywood animators and aerospace manufacturers are all now under threat.
Take Boeing, for example. This American giant is the type of company that symbolizes the �high-tech leadership on which the future of the U.S. economy is widely said to depend� (Newsweek, Dec. 2, 2005). Yet, 20 years ago, most of its aircraft parts were manufactured domestically, while today, sadly, up to �70 percent of the airframe of the company�s next-generation 787 Dreamliner will be made overseas, including key parts such as the fuselage and wings.� Even the engine will be produced outside the U.S., while workers inside the U.S. are left with layoffs.
Some economists have noticed manufacturing losses, but because the negative long-term ramifications have not become fully manifest in the economy, people are willing to turn a blind eye. Over the short term, companies have become richer through outsourcing, and consumers are happy because they have cheaper toys. But this will not last forever. At some point, manufacturing job losses will mean Americans will not be able to afford toys at all.
The Effect on Americans
What does the decline in manufacturing mean for the average American?
First, America as a whole will eventually become poorer, so be prepared to downgrade your standard of living. As progressively more manufacturers move abroad, the flow of money out of the country will exceed the benefits of cheap imports. At some point, America�s trade deficit will overwhelm us. If this trend continues, eventually Americans will not be producing enough to pay for the standard of living that post-World War ii America has become used to.
Second, if you are not among the rich and you rely on a job, prepare yourself for job security issues. In plain language, if you work in the manufacturing industry, don�t expect raises and don�t be shocked if your job gets �outsourced.�
Jerry Roy is a 49-year-old family man from Michigan who has worked for gm since 1977. According to the New York Times, when Jerry was first hired, he said it was like �I�d died and went to heaven.� Such was the promise of manufacturing being a secure path to the American dream (Nov. 19, 2005).
Actually, four generations of Roys have worked for gm. Jerry�s great-grandfather first started at a gm Delco plant during the Great Depression. Then Jerry�s grandfather worked at the same plant during the war years when it was converted over to a machine gun factory. Jerry�s father, mother, an aunt and a great uncle all worked for gm, too. Jerry�s father, Gerald, recalled the stark contrast between the now-closed plants and the �golden� era when production levels were so high shifts worked around the clock, never shutting down. Jerry, too, described in amazement all the empty parking lots that used to be factories (ibid.). Now, Jerry, who is currently working for former gm parts unit Delphi, is facing either a major wage cut or a layoff�as are thousands of others like him.
�The days when blue-collar work could be passed on down the family line � those days are over,� said one professor of labor relations at Clark University in Massachusetts (ibid.).
Dave Kassel of the outsourcing firm International Smart Sourcing says soberly, �There�s no point looking in the rear-view mirror.� With alternatives like China, Mexico and now Central America, �expecting U.S. industrial manufacturers to dominate in the decades to come is foolhardy� (Daily News, New York, Aug. 9, 2005). Mr. Kassel also predicts that �in a decade Detroit is going to be a fraction of what it is today.�
By building factories overseas, manufacturers are sowing the seeds of their own long-term destruction by slowly reducing the wealth of Americans�their primary customers.
Be warned�and remember the old adage: As gm goes, so goes the nation. �
Subject: Re: The Death of American Manufacturing
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 22:11:17 11/26/07 ()
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This is a one-sided predictor of doom and gloom, written to encourage a protectionist agenda.
Subject: Re: The Death of American Manufacturing
From: QUESTION
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Date Posted: 22:30:01 11/26/07 ()
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Message:
Question, how can Sierra Leone benefit from this?
Subject: Re: The Death of American Manufacturing
From: Jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 18:44:07 11/27/07 ()
Email Address: epa@gmail.com
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Message:
Honestly, Sierra Leone is hardly likely to benefit from outsourcing. Manufacturers rely on sustainable power supply. Our grade; F. Manufacturers thrive on technological capabilities. Our grade level Pre nursery. Availabale labor force. Our grade; 100%. An educated labor force with lean based manufacturing training; zero. Other infrastructure including good roads, healthcare, lower taxes incentives, geographic proximity to market and a perpetually swift supply chain all fall below average.
Remember we have very strong competing interests all over subsharan Africa. We are simply not equipped for ecommerce. It still takes 7 to 14 aggregate days to get a mailed letter to Europe and America.
Simply put, we have a long ways to go
Subject: Re: The Death of American Manufacturing
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 00:27:12 11/27/07 ()
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By creating policies to let the raw materials of our industry be turned into durable goods.
In other words,
1. start polishing diamonds in SL (let overseas do the designs)
2. start creating aluminium products for various industries (architectural claddings, aluminium rolls, building components, chairs...) from our bauxite
3. turn Rutile into titanium products
4. Turn cocoa pods into chocolate
In all these, have a quality certified products certication systems, wherein companies like Lloyds, Bureau Veritas (BVI), DNV, BSI will be invited to test and certify products that pass international certification standards with their certification marks like the quality "kite" mark done by BSI (British Standards Institute).
Go on a mass training scheme for the locals, by initially inviting well paid overseas nations (or Diasporan) to pass knowlege on to the local youth.
Inviting companies to setup shop in SL by providing favourable incentives,BUT...provide clauses in the CONTRACTS to state that EVERY COMPANY should produce proof on a half-yearly basis that Locals are being trained to take up the jobs when contract expires.
With this setup Sierra Leone could start producing finished products at cheaper rates since our labour cost would be low and the society would have had a well educated and sophisticated labour force.
JUS Gee We Di Light..............and Let Industrialisation begin.
Our next phase after industrialisation would be educating our society about global financial management and resources (Global trading, Stocks, Mergers and Acquisitions......)
And then..........our economy will become a Knowlege-based economy, where we'll once again become.....THE ATHENS(Knowlege-based) OF AFRICA.
Am I just dreaming,......or is it DOABLE?
Subject: Re: The Death of American Manufacturing
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 09:48:48 11/27/07 ()
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Very doable. The stumbling blocks to be overcome are:
(1) Peace - Check
(2) Energy - Check - promised for December 20, 2007
(3) Enabling business environment - Needs some work, but there are several investment incentive packages out there.
(4) Environmental protection - Unsatisfactory.
(5) Judicial reform and rule of law - Unsatisfactory
(6) Government red tape/corruption - Unsatisfactory.
Subject: Re: The Death of American Manufacturing
From: silent majority
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Date Posted: 10:43:09 11/27/07 ()
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3) Enabling business environment - Needs some work, but there are several investment incentive packages out there....KKW
Is one of these the 'government backed lending' that you discussed on this forum recently?
What are the others? And have you got any examples in operation in West Africa?
Subject: Re: The Death of American Manufacturing
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 12:49:19 11/27/07 ()
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No - I wasn't referring to any of my own personal ideas which are far more aggressive and controversial:-). I am talking about various brochures, programs, studies, etc that are probably gathering dust somewhere in the Finance Ministry that were written to attract investors through import tariff relief, tax holidays, dividend remittance guarantees and similar incentives. I remember seeing one drawn up to attract investment in tourism many years ago, but the war propbably put that one on the shelf!
Subject: Re: The Death of American Manufacturing
From: Basco
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Date Posted: 13:03:24 11/27/07 ()
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To all of you replying to this post education is the key. For companies and industries to be attracted to Salone there has to be a work force with an educated base. Not to Uni level but a solid GCE 'O' levels as it use to be. The majority of kids that are turned out of Tejan Kabba's secondary schools are illiterate.
Subject: Re: The Death of American Manufacturing
From: Question
To: All
Date Posted: 10:04:11 11/27/07 ()
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How about our parliament, what is the role of our parliament? Trough the years, it seem, that the executive makes all the calls. Is our parliament none and void.
Subject: ANTHONY SESAY STOP;
From: awoko
To: All
Date Posted: 17:44:19 11/26/07 ()
Email Address: jaun@aol.com
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TONY DO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO DOES NOT VALUE EDUCATION. WHAT HAPPEN TO THE le200MILLION SCHOOL PROJECT IN SENGBEH CHIEFDOM THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN COMPLETED IN 2006 ? IF YOU READ ONE OF THE LOCAL NEWSPAPERS ON LINE YOU WILL GET THE FULL STORY. YOU STARTED THE WAR IN YOUR BACK YARD,SO IF YOU PLAY A BIG PART IN STOPPING IT SO WHY ARE YOU PRAISING YOURSELF. SALEONE NAR SMALL COUNTRY WE ALL FAMBUL WAN WAY OR DE OTHER SO STOP LEH WE WAIT FOR 2012 FOR SHOW WE SEF.