Subject: If it was the life of YOUR child in danger!
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 16:12:58 10/16/07 ()
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I read with a heavy heart the plight of a young mother and her sick son and it brought tears to my eyes, i hope it does to you too.
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1226&cntnt01returnid=15
If you missed it.. look again..
http://awoko.org/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1226&cntnt01returnid=15
The pang of helplessness, hopelessness hits me.. I can almost see the mother taking the child out for a wash.. the stares, the sneers...
Africa been what it is, I can almost hear it..
Witch, Korkor, satan.. Sweah...
When at most the only thing that is ostracizing this poor lady and her son in her community is a swelling brain which can easily be relieved by a shunt or modern western medicine and care.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrocephalus
What can we do..?
How can we help..?
Creating awareness, pushing the media, prodding the business community the international and diplomatic community in salone?
Its not all about our beaches and kolonko's and diamonds..
Can we find a way to help..?
5 dollars. Top up, less than 20 minutes talk.. its gone.. This boy could use 5 dollars.
10 dollars. One round of Heineken at paddys.. gone.. end up pan piss.. en liver damage..
50 dollars. A night out with a soba tanni at Atlantic or Alex’s and you are not even sure she will give you some..
Can we find a way to help..
Please.. please please...
Use your kids Christmas toys money.. Pikin get enough already and even Christ will be happy..
Ramadan just don...If you did not pull sara... there could not be a better time and cause..
I am pledging a 100 dollars to pikin business to get this rolling...
If anyone knows how to get it to pikin business or this mother.. let me know at rarayboy@hotmail.com
Thanks for reading.
A few Heineken can save a life, and its not only yours.
Subject: SLPP Publicity Secretary Admits Corruption
From: YUK
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Date Posted: 13:13:54 10/16/07 ()
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Sierra Leone: SLPP Publicity Secretary Admits Corruption
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Concord Times (Freetown)
16 October 2007
Posted to the web 16 October 2007
Mohammed Vandi
Freetown
Publicity Secretary of the Sierra Leone Peoples Party (SLPP), Kailahun district, Friday admitted that institutionalised corruption was rampant in the past SLPP government.
Vandi Moijueh who is also a Councillor in the Kailahum District Council told journalists at the Kenema Police Station that the international community was not in support of the defeated SLPP because the latter was siphoning donor funds meant for poverty reduction.
"I am calling on the All Peoples Congress (APC) government and the law enforcement agencies to investigate and bring to book all corrupt officials who contributed to the sufferings of the people of Sierra Leone," Moijueh said.
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On his own part, Councillor Moijueh said he is free of any corrupt dealings. "I am a strong SLPP Councillor and I was awarded the contract to rehabilitate the road leading to Kailahun district. I am corrupt-free because I implemented the contract given to me as required," he said.
Moijueh expressed his readiness to face the Anti-Corruption Commission to prove his case and maintained that he will forever be an SLPP stalwart.
"I will never leave the SLPP for any other political party," he said.
Subject: Re: SLPP Publicity Secretary Admits Corruption
From: O'thaim
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Date Posted: 15:34:43 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
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Sounds patriotic, at least from a distance. But ...... come to think of it..... I doubt very much if this Vandi guy could have taken such a bold declaration had the SLPP won the election. Looking at it critically, isn't it a kind of 'goody' trap? Once the investigation gets underway, these same folks might use it as an excuse to launch another rebel movement!
WAN...WAN...ANG WOOTH ANG TEP ENG-CAMPAIGN! KA-KAY MOYENG....AN-YEEKI. ANT-DAYR TE-TEP! GBENG GBENG NGA NUNG FINOOOUNG. ANG LOM ANG FOYEH LANEH-AY! KE TEK KENG! LONTHA!
Subject: Professionals and Concerned Citizens
From: Albert Moinina
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Date Posted: 09:19:08 10/16/07 ()
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http://standardtimespress.net/cgi-bin/artman/publish/article_2191.shtml
Professionals and Concerned Citizens Should Join In Fighting Corruption
Posted by Dylan Sogie-Thomas of London United Kingdom on Oct 15, 2007, 17:01
Professionals and concerned citizens play a critical role in fighting against corruption. I am concerned about corruption in the public sector as it undermines democracy and the rule of law, leads to violation of human rights, allows organized crime and other threats to human security to flourish. I am trying to provide hard facts on major corruption in government and effort to motivate people to fight against it.
My focus group at the moment will be on the Transitional Team, Law enforcement personnel, Auditors and the Media.
Transitional Team
The Transitional Team is made up of professionals from all works of life. I am happy with the progress made so far in assessing government ministries and in discovering massive embezzlement or corrupt practices by government officials. I am only disappointed that their report will not be disclosed to the public .The Transitional team should find out about the following before submitting their final report.
-find out the signatories to every corrupt government institutions and should verify authorization for the withdrawal of funds.
-find out who the legal advisers attached to that corrupt department and try to find out if he/she advised these officials about the implications of embezzlement. If he/she advised them and they refused to obey his advised the Team should enquire why that individual continue to serve in that capacity. ‘Maybe he was enjoying kickbacks’’
-find out who the auditors were and the finance directors for that department or government projects. The Team need to ascertain when these corrupt activities started and what kind of audit report was given. Auditors and professional accountant should not be a party to fraud. If the audit report given was unqualified even though there was massive embezzlement it should cast doubt as to the competence of that auditor.
-The Team should identify the common abuse conducted in these ministries example bribery, kickbacks, patronage and nepotism.
-any government official that is ineffective or corrupt should be removed from their position. It would be a disadvantage to keep directors with failed policies.
-upon completion of the Transitional team report the public will expect government to seize and freeze suspects assets and accounts. Corrupt officials should be removed from duties and charged to court. Prison sentence should be imposed and banning order preventing such individuals from public positions. These individuals should also be reported to the Professional body that they belong or were they are members .example Bar Association, ICASL, ACCA etc.
Law Enforcement
Judges, lawyers, police including those responsible for investigation prosecution, punishment and assessment of crime should send out a clear message that society does not tolerate corruption.
-arrest and prosecute perpetrators
-provide assistance to other professionals in fulfilling their mandate to investigate
-advocate for policies and programs that facilitate prosecution and make criminal justice system more accessible.
-encourage law enforcement training programs to cover areas where corruption could occur.
Lawyers should also be convicted on money laundering in relation to sale of counterfeit goods or property. They should be held personally liable as this will motivate them to protect their integrity and cover their backs. Lawyers in the past have been involved in many corrupt activities ‘’sale of counterfeit goods and turning blind eye to it’’. Lawyers are aware that counterfeit goods/property were being openly sold they didn’t care as long as they were taking money from their client.
Bar Association should advise its members on all matters relating to corruption or money laundering including guidance to lawyers about their professional and legal duties and disciplinary actions should be taken when members breach such ethics.
Auditors and Professional Accountant should be able to protect and prevent intentional behavior and actions that undermines the will of the people, waste of public resources and activities that undermine accountability and transparency. Auditors must have a zero tolerance on corruption.
-identify supplier fraud- a supplier offering a purchasing or procurement officer a personal incentive , such as money or a car , land to sign a purchase contract with them over that of competitors .Government contracts should be transparent and suppliers should be chosen based on value for money.
-directors submitting falsified payroll or timesheets , creating fictitious staff members and diverting the wages or salaries into bank accounts they have access to should be eliminated.
Auditors failing to perform their duties should be reported to the relevant professional body such as ICASL, ACCA, ICAEW etc so that disciplinary actions can be taken.
Media and Concerned Citizens
The media can shape public perception about corruption, familiarize the public with available resources, educate policy makers about the problem and the need for effective services and policy. The media should encourage the public to come forward by reporting anyone suspected in corrupt practice ‘preventive method should be used to fight corruption’’. It would serve as a deterrent by warning perpetrators of the consequences of their actions.
It is the media responsibility for giving the people correct information .They should request for government information and advocate for freedom of the press. Transparency and accountability of government officials should be their main concern. The media should have access to public records and documents in which the ‘’the business of the people’’ is stored in some tangible form.
-convey message to perpetrators and would be perpetrators that abuse of public funds will not be tolerated and that they will be held accountable.
Concerned citizens can play a fundamental role. They can help spread the word about how corruption affects the country, advocate for needed policy and reform. Also report abuse when they suspect it. Citizens should also advocate for needed services and policies in their community in other to vote for a political party in the future.
Subject: Re: Professionals and Concerned Citizens
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 14:59:47 10/16/07 ()
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You have just spoken for many of us Sierra Leoneans if not all!!!
Thank you very much.
Subject: Re: Professionals and Concerned Citizens
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 13:57:37 10/16/07 ()
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A quiet encouraging and thrilling piece of work. My brother, this is a very good piece of writing I wish this could be implemented. If it is, then that would smack cruption good bye and say hello to full fledge development.
Thanks bro. God will bless you.
Subject: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 09:10:41 10/16/07 ()
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Brother John Leigh, the hints you dropped on this forum about the planned reconstruction of the SLPP did catch my attention. Political misfortunes come and go, and in their stead, those chastened by experience do emerge with stronger leadership qualities. Without necessarily knowing you in person, the unflagging style that marked your days at our diplomatic mission in the United States, came close to vouching for your character. If the announced bid to resuscitate the SLPP is as genuine as your steadfastness, then you can enlist the support of this writer. Once the old "contaminants" have been purged within its veins, thinkers with a nationalist vision can infuse the SLPP with a sense of direction to retake Sierra Leone.
The SLPP needs to slough off its unproductive skin, and yesterday's mistakes must never be forgotten. As a matter of fact, they should be brought to the fore, so that they can constantly remind the party's stewards that an abandonment of integrity can take the SLPP, and Sierra Leone, to rack and ruin. By bribing his way through a coterie of selfish friends, Tejan Kabbah's leadership of the party disappointed some of us long before his lackluster style could throw Sierra Leone and the SLPP into retrogression. A party that allows a few selfish individuals to commandeer the seat of leadership through bribery has failed before it could even test its mettle in power.
Some of us had to leave, confident in the belief that reformation was an impossibility as long as pirates controlled the party's rudder.
Now that bad blood is {apparently} on its way out of the party's arteries, the SLPP can be steered toward its nationalist goals. In the struggle to retake Sierra Leone from the APC, I am willing, and ready, to join popular efforts in making the SLPP a national party with roots stretching from Kabala to Kailahun. For the sake of the nationalist desires that brought the party into existence, the SLPP must shine anew with the same flame that replaced British colonial rule.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Brother of Sengbe
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Date Posted: 12:31:20 10/16/07 ()
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Stay where you are at!! We do not need judases who hand power to the enemy on a silver platter just because they are disgruntled about intra-political activities that they did not have the fortitude to successfully oppose.
We in the SLPP do not need back-stabbers anymore in our party.
I say this to ALL PMDCians: STAY AWAY FROM THE SLPP!!! Stay within your ranks in the pmdc.
We very well know that we shall overcome in the future. We are regrouping amongst ourselves - the tough and trustworthy loyalists.
Our Party will NEVER AGAIN be impregnated with opportunists and disloyal cowards.
And where would the akartas be without the help of JUDAS? Would they be governing today? HELL NO!!
Please stay in the niche y'alls have carved for yourselves in marriage to the akartas. We will be just fine without your hypocrisy and cowardice.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 15:58:24 10/16/07 ()
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Sengbe, The "Judases" and "disloyal cowards" are those who sold the Nationalist SLPP to theft and misrule without the scantiest regard for Sierra Leone or the espoused goals of the party. I left because I love Sierra Leone enough to distance myself from a leadership that was clearly going to self-destruct.
If conceding defeat to the opponent is one of your gripes against me, be rest assured that in the interest of Sierra Leone and NATIONAL UNITY, I will be the first SLPP member to accept defeat after an electoral meltdown. If the SLPP has no guts for that, then I may as well form my own party, serve Sierra Leone in another capacity, or simply graduate and use my academic credentials to make money in Western Ivory Towers. I have NOT changed one bit. We must either bring the party to face reality, or accept being permanent losers. Shame on you for being so unrealistic! Political opponents will surely love average thinkers like you, Sengbe.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Sabanoh
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Date Posted: 15:37:32 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
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The party does not belong to you. So you cannot tell PMDC members who were once SLPP not to come back. All you have to do is come to the convention and vote who want to take over the party. John Leigh would not be the best choice right now because he has been a member of Kabba's crooked regime from the beginning to the end. The man did not even have the guts to seperate himself from Kabba or steer Kabba to do right. He is one of people(SLPP) who have large investments in Nigeria. Lonta
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 14:56:45 10/16/07 ()
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Where did the SLPP go wrong?
Perhaps the toothless chimpanzee fight against corruption & the Makeni ConBention?
http://allafrica.com/stories/200710160621.html
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 14:08:46 10/16/07 ()
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Do you think you have a legitimate right to ban someone from serving their country?
I think if the man have what it takes to be a leader in the SLPP, there's nothing you can do to stop him.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: nico
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Date Posted: 14:54:34 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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The guy is not an SLPP, those who spoke their minds about the misdirection of the party are the real genuine supporters. Those who kept quiet in the face of injustices and corruptions against the state caused the defeat of the party. They are sycophants and bootlickers who should not be trusted in the SLPP. As far as I am concerned, I make no apology for criticising the kabba regime, i think for the sake of democracy and progress it was necessary for the SLPP to be defeated. This will cause them to look into how they got it wrong and make sure they don't take the country for granted next time. Brother Sengbe you did not help the party when you knew its failings would cost them the election. You should not be talking as if you own the SLPP, people like you are repellent in the SLPP.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: SLPP Teacher
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Date Posted: 11:10:03 10/16/07 ()
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Bra Enviable, welcome back, son. The most important thing I have noticed about you is that you are not an opportunist. When the SLPP was in power and giving jobs and money to praise singers, you bitterly opposed the party for alleged corruption. Now you are coming back when the party is OUT of power as opposed to being IN power. Some one with your brilliance could have chosen to sing the praises of the new APC for attention. You have the intellectaul means to do that, but again you chose not to. You are definitely NOT an opportunist.
With your ability to communicate in many parts of Sierra Leone, the party needs your intelligence, and all the skills you bring along. Fullah in Kabala to Temne in Makeini, you can do it.
Welcome home, my son.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Cool Running
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Date Posted: 14:27:24 10/16/07 ()
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Well now my pretty, that's the most laudable appraise I've read in a decade! Nothing short of eloquence, particularly when the character in question deserves it all. We'll keep listening ...... and reading ..... and wholeheartedly wish him goodluck. After all, the guys consistency of style makes him unique. If guided with modesty and tolerance, I think he can cruise all the way. Otherwise, people might feel intimidated by his towering intellegence. Guy can't be apologetic for such a god-given talent, but then he simply can't ignore what others feel about him. That's what makes our awareness of society wholesome! Stay cool man!
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: Brima kamara
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Date Posted: 10:05:18 10/16/07 ()
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My brothers,
If the SLPP is indeed ready to restructure or revive itself, then that should be a move in the right direction. However I have some advices for them.
1. They have to really admit to themselves that they failed in their promise to deliver to the people of Sierra Leone. This is not to say that I am castigating them but from a scr1ptural point of view which dictates that only if you realise that you have done wrong will you to be able to rectify your faults. When they lost the last elections, instead of blaming their failure on themselves they were busy crying foul. I was one person who was not happy with that.
2. They should try to weed out all the opportunists who jumped on their bandwagon because they were the patrty in power. Most of those people have no love for the party or what the party stands for. They were only interested in enriching themselves to the detriment of the party forgetting that it is the party that suffers in the end
3. Getting rid of all those old recycled and corrupt politicians. Most of these guys have outlived their usefulness. You should try to get younger people with better ideas. You were relying too much on ideas of guys of the sixties forgotting that those guys belong to a bygone age.
4. Using their MPs to give the APC a run for their money in parliament. The SLPP has never been able to do well in opposition. They should try to change that this time around so that the APC will not take us for the same ride that they the SLPP did. If they can successfully challenge the APC in parliament then people will know that they are here for a change. We dont want those archaic way of campaigning by constantly refering to things that happened during the sixties and seventies when we are dealing with issues that are taking place now.
5. Try to recruit more people and try to get an ideological base. This is the same problem with all the parties in this country. In fact there is no way you can differentiate between the different political parties in this country as they have no ideological base like other countries. e.g In britain you have Labour with their communist style ideas, conservatives with protention of the british way of life and so on and so forth. That it one way to prevent politicians cross carpeting from one party to the other.
6. Giving the party a more national outlook. The present crop of politicians they have in the party have made people to think that it is a mende-man party. No wonder the rest of the country ganged up against them which led to their failure in the just concluded elections. The idea of the founding fathers of the partry was that it should have a national outlook which is far from the case today.
Some of us are really interested to ensure that the SLPP remains a credible party because we dont have a single party that we support. Our aim is to ensure that democracy prevails in our beloved fatherland and that no one (repeat) no one ever take us to the days of military intervention, dictatorship and bad governance. Please SLPP do this for us if even you dont want to do it for yourselves. The country need you at this time as a deterence to the APC behaving the way they did during the seventies and eighties. Lonta.
Subject: Re: FOR BROTHER JOHN LEIGH: ON REVIVING THE SLPP AND MORE
From: FODAY MANSARAY
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Date Posted: 13:22:18 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
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I will have to agree for once.Ambassador in my book is a diehard SLPP and most definately a nationlist.
Lets go Ambassador.
Subject: I love my clitoris
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 08:52:17 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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I have up until now resisted chiming in on the FMG debate. Since there hasn't been much other interesting discussion on the forum, I decided to give my own take on the topic. My arguement is purely sexual. I am pro-clitoris because it is a sexual organ that offers pleasure to women when left intact. I believe sex is a gift from God for married couples. As such, His desire is that we derive pleasure from sex. I believe His intent is for us to derive ultimate pleasure in our married relationships. In reading the posts from this forum, there are those who either don't know or don't want to acknowledge the sensitivity of the clitoris and it's importance in sexual stimulation. Since you can have an orgasim just from stimulating the clitoris, it's importance can not be minimized. I don't oppose the practice of FGM because I think it's barbaric, I don't like it because women deserve to experience all of the sexual pleasures their bodies were designed to enjoy. I have included a link about the clitoris that gives a detailed explanation about the clitoris in all its glory.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 11:57:15 10/16/07 ()
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Erica, you have disappointed me with your conservative spin on the clitoris. What d'ya mean by "I am pro-clitoris because it is a sexual organ that offers pleasure to women when left intact. I believe sex is a gift from God for married couples"?
Titi nor make ar laff! You, I and the entire sexual world knows that unmarried people are also entitled to the joys and yelps of sex and we all celebrate La Clitora! How Ba You Wan Greedy We?
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 16:17:34 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
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First of all, based on my own beliefs (which are biblical) I don't believe sex is an entitlement for unmarried people. With that said, I have experienced sex outside of marriage and I would say to any girl or woman contemplating doing the same to wait until marriage. The act of sex alone is not the same for men and women. I know very few women who derive pleasure from sex just for the sake of having it. True sexual pleasure for women comes from the intimate relationship we experience with our husbands. It's about the love, security, acceptance, and comfort we feel when you are in our mens' arms. If you read Lady J's post about the other ways to achieve sexual pleasure, a man who you are only casually involved with is not going to put that much time and energy into satisfying you. Your husband who loves and cares for you and genuinely wants lovemaking to be mutually satisfying will find out how to make things pleasurable for you both. Even to have the level of comfort needed to address the issues Lady J raised would require a very commited relationship. This is just my own opinion.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Lady J
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Date Posted: 14:01:19 10/16/07 ()
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Erica,
Thanks for a wonderful piece. As we continue the process of eradicating this ancient tradition, your above piece will someday become a selling point on why the clitoris should be left alone. Thanks a bunch. ….. (Transaction Completed).
I dedicate the rest of my response to those who had no say in the process of losing their clitoris.
“Many of the initiatees do not have a say in the process and are initiated without consent. All I am saying is that there should be some sort of INFORMED CONSENT”. (M. Alieu Iscandari Esq) Thanks brother ...
Alieu, until we get to that particular point of our journey, education is the key, just like Londoner responded to Erica’s piece ….….
We have too many initiatees who have given up on sexual pleasure just because their clitoris was taken away ….
We have to teach these young women how to make do without half of their external genitalia, and not blame their boyfriends/husbands for leaving them just because they have no clit …… (The primary genitalia or external genitalia: in males the penis and scrotum, in females the clitoris and vulva.)
Until we accomplish total eradication of this practice, let’s make sure we utilize our erogenous zones to the fullest, while we fight to protect those behind us ……
The other, hidden sex organs are referred to as the secondary genitalia or internal genitalia. (A more ambiguously defined term is erogenous zone, subjectively, any portion of the body that when stimulated produces erotic sensation.)
The vagina is a muscular, highly expandable, tubular cavity leading from the vestibule to the uterus. The vagina is the structure penetrated during vaginal intercourse, and during vaginal intercourse, contact with this structure provides sexual pleasure in some women.
The Bartholin’s glands are two small, round structures, one on either side of the vaginal opening. These glands secrete a mucus-like fluid during sexual arousal, providing vaginal lubrication.
The Grafenberg spot, or G-spot, is a small area (about 1 to 2 cm) on the front wall of the vagina (closest to the bladder and urethra), about halfway between the pelvic bone and the cervix, that is especially sensitive to sexual stimulation in some women and may be the source of a small amount of fluid ejaculated at orgasm.
The cervix (the lower part of the uterus that protrudes into the vaginal canal) During vaginal intercourse, contact with this structure may provide sexual pleasure in some women.
There are more ways to arouse pleasure without touching each other.... CREATIVITY is the key.
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 15:51:39 10/16/07 ()
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Lady J,
Where were you when I started this debate? By the way nice piece. I wish to add one thing regarding the G-spot. If properly stimulated, the G-spot produces the highest, most sensational feeling of organism a woman ever gets. It does not happen every time with women that have their clits intact and I believe the G-spot is completely dead in those of us that are victims of FGM. By the way for the guys, there is an equivalent area called the A-spot (around the prostate), if accurately activated, produces the most intense and enjoyable organism ever.
It is amazing that Alieu dismissed my initial take on this issue claiming that my choice of words dragged the discussion into the gutter. Now after turning around 180 degrees, he is involved full fledge in an FGM debate. I wonder if this is a case of flip-flopping. If it is, be aware that flip-flopping is not conducive to a political career (or a politician wannabe).
Thanks to all involved in pushiong this issue of FGM in the fore front of debates on this forum. I will be taking my case to Freetown this December. I hope to use some of these debate exchanges as references for making my case. Those of you who will be in town, listen up whilst you are there. I surely will publicise the debate via TV and radio in addition to my presentation to government officials and medical practitioners. I will fully fund my endeavor with my personal money.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: NAR U SABI
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Date Posted: 14:50:49 10/16/07 ()
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Lady J, You say there are more ways to arouse pleasure without touching each other ....CREATIVITY is the key
HOW can this be done?
NAR U SABI
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 15:08:26 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
NAR U SABI,
U sef U fen plaba oh .... Dee place go wahm for U ...
Have you ever allowed a woman to look deep into your eyes .... while you fantasize on what you want to do to her ..... and in that moment .... she lets her lips part slowly, and a twinkle appears in that beautiful eyes of hers .... as she lifts her slender fingers pretending to reach for your ...... ..
Ohhhh .... Bettttteeeehhhh ....
Enjoy and have a nice
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: LJS
To: All
Date Posted: 15:54:35 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-49-205-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.49.205.105
Message:
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Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Youthman
To: All
Date Posted: 10:19:06 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: pablo.augustus@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 216.70.131.210
Message:
Erica,
can you please point me in the direction of previous discussions about FGM on this forum especially topics pertaining to the practice in Sierra leone? Thanks for your help and the wonderful point you pointed out.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 14:16:17 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
There is just a little bit of the discussion remaining from 10/14/07 on Alieu:FGM. Most of the recent talk has not been achived yet. I can't remember the month it all got started but if you scroll through the achives of late Sept/early October you'll find some discussion there too. The discussion all got started because one sister wrote on the forum that she believed her low sex drive was because she had been circumcised. Responses have run the gamut and when I thought the topic was dead, somehow it came back to life. It's been a really good discussion.
Subject: Re: I love my clitoris
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 09:35:22 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
Erica, thanks for a frank and informative contribution. Education! Education! Education is the watchword! You have my deepest respect!
Subject: TAKING A LOOK AT THE QUEEN
From: Talk True
To: All
Date Posted: 07:26:48 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: Truetalk@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 202.70.85.3
Message:
Over the past few days, there has been a heated debate over some of our african practices that is ingrained in our culture most especially female circumcision. Some forumites have been lambasting the practice because according to some of them it is wrong and (quoting Wole Soyinka)a savage custom, barbaric and archaic or you name it. From my own point of view, most of them are swayed by western propaganda that normally portrays everything african as bad. I therefore want us to look at one od the oldest and most respected customs today in the world i.e the monarchy as practiced in England. Though I know that they it is quite different from the debate that has been raging on, yet it is a custom and traditional practice of one of the so-called bastions of democracy, Great Britain.
Sierra Leoneans living in England will not dare utter any opposition to that practice though it is one of the most undemocratic practice that is being perpetrated today in this day and age. If you go back to history, you will see the amount of blood spilled and lives that were taken to ensure that the present royal family maintain their present position. In fact the ancestor of the present royal family were local brigands and despots who killed as many people as possible to maintain their holld over their fellow men. Though at present they will want us to believe that she is just a ceremonial Head of State yet any student of history will telll you that it is a lie. Nothing in England becomes law without the signature of the queen. She is the De Juror and De Facto head of England. She nominates the Prime Minister, who as we all know is not elected by the British people but the leader of the party with the highest majority in Parliament. Everybody in England swears allegiance to her and not to the Prime Minister including the Armed Forces. She is treated as if she is a minor God. She belongs to the upper class that control 80% of the wealth of the british people. Her present wealth runs into billion of pounds. She has so many privileges and pays very little tax on her astronomical wealth. She is head and shoulders in class above the average british guy in the streets though her wealth was built on the sweat of these same British paople. This practice is very, very (repeat) very undemocratic, yet you have these same people telling us about democracy and whatever they say we swallow it whole heartedly.
When can we as africans realise that the white man is just here to make us look uncivilised and uncultured. Why do we have to think that the western world have the supreme right to determine what is good for us and what isn't good for us. I believe that every country, race or group has things that distinguishes it from the rest of the world. The sooner we learn to hold these things dear to ourselves as the british revere their queen, the better for us.
Subject: Re: TAKING A LOOK AT THE QUEEN
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 08:31:55 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.142
Message:
Talk True,
I heard that there is a royal Bondo in Britain. Is it true? So, is the queen a Shayma? If she is, I will surely endorse the practice in our country. Can you please find out? Pretty please?
Subject: Re: TAKING A LOOK AT THE QUEEN
From: lef joke
To: All
Date Posted: 08:42:30 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: npj-proxy.wlink.com.np at 202.79.54.50
Message:
Nor worry but dat. Na senior Gborka
Subject: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 06:46:43 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: dyn003334-hs01.accord-ne.org at 156.111.18.236
Message:
We come from Allah and to Him is our return.
May Allah forgive her mistakes and keep us on the right path.
Subject: Re: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: velma taylor
To: All
Date Posted: 12:38:24 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: vellosticss@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: ppp-70-248-231-245.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net at 70.248.231.245
Message:
Alimamy,
where u dae?
Subject: Re: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 15:23:57 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 134.74.170.97
Message:
Ar Dae Fouta
Subject: Re: INNA LILAHI WA INNA ILAHI RAJOUN
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 08:18:18 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.183
Message:
May the Almighty Allah have mercy on her soul. She is a great loss to the Muslim Umma generally and a great loss indeed to the Islamic society of Sierra Leone. May her numerous Pilgimages to Meccah be, in the Day of Judgement, a salvaging testimony of her faith and help her gain the reward of Al-Janna.
Subject: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 03:30:47 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 251-66-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.66.251
Message:
The wolves are at it again to malign, kill and destroy Miss Alice Kamara who has said no to bribery and the issuance of Sierra Leonean passport to racketeeers.
Because Alice Kamara is not compromising with the crooks, they have organised a sit down strike to force the honest woman relinquish her post. The new APC must not allow these diabolical plot to get rid of the immigration boss!
We know that our passport has been give to forein=gners and crooks at the immigration office will issue it to any K=Jack or Jill.
We say no to the evil plan to get rid of Miss Kamara. Like Christian Thorpe, she is among the few Sierra Leoneans with respect and honesty.
Miss Kamara we will defend your honesty and we will be looking what the new APC will do to retain you in that important position.
Subject: Re: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:39:03 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.243.134.136
Message:
I have very little knowledge of this lady, but if she's being the boss all this while then I'm in support of you 100%.
The reason for my support is that, we have a very poor record on immigration fraud but recently things are improving. One clear evidence is that, Nigerians who obtained our passports during the war and used them to sought asylum in Britain were refused after their passports expired. I know a few who were deported because they were caught.
I discovered recently that our immigration controls have being tight. So this could only be as a result of good leadership, so yes my opinion is Alice Kamara should stay.
Subject: Re: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 08:26:15 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.142
Message:
Do you have a vested interest in keeping Alice Kamara in that position? Did she get her job through political patronage? Have you in any way benefitted from Miss Kamara's position? Answer these questions before we take up her case.
Subject: Re: Evil plan to unseat Immigration boss!
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 15:37:05 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: mannahs@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: 251-66-ftth.onsneteindhoven.nl at 88.159.66.251
Message:
Do you have a vested interest in keeping Alice Kamara in that position?
Ans: Absolutely! As a patriotic Sierra Leonean who does not belong to any groups, I find Miss Kamara's penchannt for honesty unparrellled as compare to her compatriots.
Did she get her job through political patronage?
That question is for those in the corridor of power.
Have you in any way benefitted from Miss Kamara's position?
My desire to achieve greater accomplishment will seek to falter, if I live in telling tale. I have known or met with Miss Kammara. I know the menmtality of our folks, when they do not have the grapes, they say its sour.
I hope my anwsers will tighten your mental facuilty to salute those who deserve honour. If Kabbah allowed corruption to plague Sierra Leone, he did appoint credible and honest Sierra Leoneans before he bowed power. I have been a strong critic of Kabbah, but I doff my hat to him for creating credible institutions to oush Sierra Leone forward.
Answer these questions before we take up her case.
Subject: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Madsan
To: All
Date Posted: 03:17:59 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: med-hopeclinic@optonline.net
Entered From: ool-4355b1b5.dyn.optonline.net at 67.85.177.181
Message:
My deepest sympathy to all the Rahman,Adams and Carew family on the death of a great woman. May her soul rest in peace. Ameen.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Hawa Mansaray
To: All
Date Posted: 05:14:14 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: talk2keita@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 194.19.96.20
Message:
Is an other blow to the nation. A stronge and engertic woman that other women can learn from has gone.I say to the family to have courage especailly to Isha. Gone but not frogotten .
From a friend.
MAY HER SOUL REST IN PERFECT PEACE.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 06:39:13 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 71.250.218.196
Message:
Our sympathies at Cocorioko to all members of the family. May her soul rest in peace.
Subject: Re: Death of Haja Isha Rahman
From: Liko
To: All
Date Posted: 06:46:30 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: f298781.ga.unc.edu at 152.4.31.217
Message:
Indeed, she was a great woman. I knew the family personally and one of his sons was my personal friend. We were in the same class at Albert Academy. May her sould rest in perfect peace.
Subject: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Salone Blondy
To: All
Date Posted: 22:09:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: abc1122@gmail.com
Entered From: at 70.229.141.151
Message:
I am tired of Sierra Leoneans in this forum writing a litany of policies and advice columns for President Koroma. What a poor, fragile nation like Sierra Leone needs is a powerful, intelligent and visionary leader like the great Mustafa Kemal Ataturk of Turkey.
Wait, before all you internet revolutionaries get riled up and write (I mean type) your cassava leaf infused comments, give me a minute to explain the need for our own great "Ataturk."
A great leader should not be known for his reconciliatory speeches and appeasing gestures to opponents and detractors, no, a great leader will only be acknowledge and appreciated for taking decisive actions for the benefits of his nation; even if these actions are unpopular with half the population. Ataturk did not gain heroic statue and his pictures on the wall in every Turkish household by being a "soft", gentle business man; He is honored because of his vision and subsequent reforms that have moved Turkey (formerly the Ottoman Empire) from one of the least advance of nations, to a now powerful nation that the U.S. (Bush Administration) is currently begging to appease (for the Armenian Genocide Vote).
Ataturk had a vision to improve Turkey from a Muslim state to a Western style nation. He reformed the educational system from a religious base system to model European system. He also changed the style of Turkish dressing for men and women, and he granted equality for men and women (a revolutionary idea at that time, that is still considered revolutionary in the Muslim world today). These reforms were not always popular, but Ataturk articulated his vision to the people, and the people believe in him.
Sierra Leone is too wealthy, and its people are too intelligent to continue to be humiliated in every ranking of world development. The nation needs a leader who has the vision (the plan shall follow later) to lead the nation in attaining a modern and prideful Sierra Leone. We need a leader that is willing to take risks, (why not, the country is already on the bottom) be decisive, and strong enough not to be swayed by the interests of any political party, Ngo’s, or International Organizations. Sierra Leone needs its own Ataturk. Who will it be?
Subject: Re: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Mensa
To: All
Date Posted: 08:55:39 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.183
Message:
It's just not feasible in our times. Firstly, the politics of intervention is becoming an outright permissible concept for the whole of Africa. The AU is working towards that. Secondly, nobody in his right mind would wish for another round of blood spilling in Sierra Leone. Those who lost their loved ones know exactly what I'm talking about. Thirdly, there are no guarantees that the eventual outcome would be just as Ataturk's case. People like Charles Taylor had unlimited ambitions to conquer the whole of West Africa while Gaddafi was backing him. Thing is, he failed in the end. Fourthly, our modern age just couldn't stand for such people. The whole world might be silent for a while, but they just can't stand idly by while people are being butchered. The vibrant media of today will help to hit the world's conscience into action.
There could be more reasons to support my disagreement. But I guess those four would surfice.
Subject: Re: Where is our Great Leader?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 03:49:00 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
Saloneboy: According to your statement above, I will mark former president kabba 0 out of 10. I mean it.
Subject: Re: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Fen Plaba!
To: All
Date Posted: 22:56:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-178-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.178.188
Message:
Ataturk that genocidal maniac? You must be outta your plassasdamned mind! Ataturk engineered some cosmetic reforms in Turkey and spun those modest changes into a fulsome PR campaign with him in the starring role of Omnimodernizer and ..hehehe..Founder of Turkey. He had such a formidable personality cult that six decades after his death, they still have soldiers goose-stepping outside his mausoleum. The greatest atrocity he inflicted however is to undermine democracy in Turkey by giving effective control of the country to the military. This is one of the reasons why Turkey is still the backward boondocks of Europe.
If you want to give a strongman example, how about Lee Kuan Yew of Slngapore who transformed that city state into one of the largest and most vibrant economies in the world today? Infact Singapore just got delivery of the first A380 today, the world's largest and most luxurious plane.
Subject: Where is our Great Leader?
From: Salone Blondy
To: All
Date Posted: 22:08:14 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: abc1122@gmail.com
Entered From: at 70.229.141.151
Message:
leader like the great Mustafa Kemal Ataturk of Turkey.
Wait, before all you internet revolutionaries get riled up and write (I mean type) your cassava leaf infused I am tired of Sierra Leoneans in this forum writing a litany of policies and advice columns for President Koroma. What a poor, fragile nation like Sierra Leone needs is a powerful, intelligent and visionary comments, give me a minute to explain the need for our own great "Ataturk."
A great leader should not be known for his reconciliatory speeches and appeasing gestures to opponents and detractors, no, a great leader will only be acknowledge and appreciated for taking decisive actions for the benefits of his nation; even if these actions are unpopular with half the population. Ataturk did not gain heroic statue and his pictures on the wall in every Turkish household by being a "soft", gentle business man; He is honored because of his vision and subsequent reforms that have moved Turkey (formerly the Ottoman Empire) from one of the least advance of nations, to a now powerful nation that the U.S. (Bush Administration) is currently begging to appease (for the Armenian Genocide Vote).
Ataturk had a vision to improve Turkey from a Muslim state to a Western style nation. He reformed the educational system from a religious base system to model European system. He also changed the style of Turkish dressing for men and women, and he granted equality for men and women (a revolutionary idea at that time, that is still considered revolutionary in the Muslim world today). These reforms were not always popular, but Ataturk articulated his vision to the people, and the people believe in him.
Sierra Leone is too wealthy, and its people are too intelligent to continue to be humiliated in every ranking of world development. The nation needs a leader who has the vision (the plan shall follow later) to lead the nation in attaining a modern and prideful Sierra Leone. We need a leader that is willing to take risks, (why not, the country is already on the bottom) be decisive, and strong enough not to be swayed by the interests of any political party, Ngo’s, or International Organizations. Sierra Leone needs its own Ataturk. Who will it be?
Subject: Best deals for your holiday travel
From: Bhaskar
To: All
Date Posted: 21:50:58 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: bhaskarsmail@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe00195b4bf214-cm001a667071fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com at 99.227.232.7
Message:
Hey guys,
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Subject: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 21:28:11 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
Entered From: at 208.115.235.86
Message:
For the benefit of those who don't know my friend and brother, Palo
Conteh, he is the finest Military Police . Kawuta Dumbuya was the first
military Police that became a lawyer .Palo is the second.He is a great
military strategist and a lawyer. He is very unassuming and dedicated
to the promotion of the efforts to rebuild our military to its glorious
past. .
His appointment by his Excellency is the well -awaited boost
our men and women in uniform needed to join our nation building
efforts.
Please join me in sending congratulations to Retired Major Palo Conteh,
wishing him all the best in his new appointment.
Say Amen.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 05:52:48 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
We need people like Foday Mansaray to be appointed as Bank Governor. What do you think?
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: Manso Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 04:02:19 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
A point of correction. Lt. Col.(Rtd) Kawuta Dumbuya (RTP) was the first military officer to become a lawyer.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: NAR U SABI
To: All
Date Posted: 07:21:07 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-57-248.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.57.248
Message:
NAR U SABI. NOR TO SO THE CEO SAY?
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:30:01 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
I think Foday Mansaray could be a fine Bank Governor. What about Alex Mansaray to represent us at the U.N.? and Bubu Kamara, though he was SLPP to be appointed as chairman of Lotto.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: NAR U SABI
To: All
Date Posted: 08:50:04 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-57-248.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.57.248
Message:
THE MANSARAY`S are they related, just curious.
NAR U SABI
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:53:29 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
No. They are not related. They are just friends. They are part of Cocorioko. Bubu Kamara is going back to his base,APC. He regretted contesting under the banner of the APC in Koya. I hope Foday and Alex will accept him.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: awoko
To: All
Date Posted: 10:44:56 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: malik @ yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-72-66-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.26.251
Message:
WE WON BUBU LEH E COMOT BEHIN SLPP. E NOR DO AM, BUT DE MAN DEA ALL SIE. E GO CAM BAK EN DO E SEN KUPOR BIZZNESS.
Subject: BUBU KAMARA welcome home!
From: KOYA CHIEFDOM
To: All
Date Posted: 11:43:56 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 192.64.157.56
Message:
Bubu did not leave APC, APC left Bubu for the son of SAT Koroma. Abu Koroma is another opportunist cabdriver that APC wrongly and illegitimately imposed on the people of Koya. Bubu was the right candidate for APC, but he did not stand a chance because of the influence of SAT KOROMA. The people of Koya hate/detest SAT and his family. The father ruined our chiefdom, now the son is back to continue the damage. THE KOYA SEAT WILL BE HOTLY CONTESTED IN THE NEXT ELECTION.
WELCOME HOME, BROTHER BUBU, YOU WERE APC WHEN APC WAS NOT FASHIONABLE.
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:56:43 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
My mistake. Bubu Kamara contested under the banner of the SLPP
Subject: Re: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 11:52:50 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 192.64.157.56
Message:
John, no need to apologize, you are on the right track. Bubu went to SLPP because APC decided to give the symbol to ABU, the son of the ruthless SAT KOROMA the terrorize the koya people. BUBU deserves any appointment by the APC government.
Subject: RETIRED MAJOR PALO CONTEH
From: FODAY MANSARAY
To: All
Date Posted: 21:26:18 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: FMANSARAY@AOL.COM
Entered From: at 208.115.235.86
Message:
For the benefit of those who don't know my friend and brother, Palo
Conteh, he is the finest Military Police . Kawuta Dumbuya was the first
military Police that became a lawyer .Palo is the second.He is a great
military strategist and a lawyer. He is very unassuming and dedicated
to the promotion of the efforts to rebuild our military to its glorious
past. .
His appointment by his Excellency is the well -awaited boost
our men and women in uniform needed to join our nation building
efforts.
Please join me in sending congratulation to Retired Major Palo wishing
him all the best in his new appointment.
Say Amen.
Subject: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 18:35:02 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-178-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.178.188
Message:
I have a whole flock of relatives who are Bondo initiates and I deeply respect the culture. I have also dated lots of FGM-ed gals in my life and I have dated just as many intact women too. With all due respect to my wonderful Bondorinas here and back home, I want to categorically declare that the uncircumcised sisters are better and more passionate lovers, who flow just so effortlessly with the groove. It just takes too much work with the FGMs. The uncut sisters here and in Sierra Leone simply rock! They're simply the best!
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 21:15:43 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Hahahaha..............
You better go take some lessons in S.x education. You fellas always forget that women are not built like men. For us men, it is "My eyes See" "I WANT" " I DO IT" "I AM SATISFIED" Next?........
Many ways to make a lady indulge in satisfaction which doesn't even require to go near FG.
You like the cheap option, and not mastery of the game.
Brothels are full with ready and willing anytime of the day.
It takes a whole process to put a woman in the right mood. Make your women fantasize throughout the whole day and you'll be king.
Don't come and talk about Circumcised/Not-Circumcised.
Put your personal effort / mastery to make the woman you love get satisfied.
Blah blah blah..............
Have you seen many sexual therapists back home? Well wake up Bro. There are so...... many in the west. If they're so O.K., why is it that they have so many Sex therapists?
Blah blah blah..................
Come to think about it, you're actually demeaning a whole populace.
What is the population of SL?
What are the largest tribes in SL?
What tribes practice FemExcision (as one forumite wrote)?
Go back to your roots, try and trace why the practice started and for what reason.
Different cultures, different attitudes of women towards S**.
Even in SL. Women in Freetown are more open towards encounters than in the provinces. In the villages, you sleep with anyone, everyone knows the next day. So the women are bound to guard their reputation.
In Freetown no one cares, thats the way of life.
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 22:35:00 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-247-178-188.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.247.178.188
Message:
Babbob, are U seriously trying to teach me about foreplay? That's a hoot, boy. Most guys I have talked to honestly believe that the Nonbondoristas are easier to paddle with, than the Bondorinas. Conduct an informal survey and see for yourself! It has nothing to do with the tribe or culture either. Even within the same tribe, the non-FGMers friskily parade around town with smiling hubbys/mates while the FGMers and their mates usually have forlorn, frustrated expressions.
You wrote: "Women in Freetown are more open towards encounters than in the provinces. In the villages, you sleep with anyone, everyone knows the next day. So the women are bound to guard their reputation.
In Freetown no one cares, thats the way of life."
I am sure the ladies in Freetown will thank U for trashing their reputation. Are U sure those villages and provinces that you visited were in Salone? You could have mistaken Liberia for Salone. My personal experience is that villager or city roller, they all frolic when you turn off the light.
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 16:10:01 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Mr. Somtin Butu,
You are right and the other guy must be a virgin or an okobo that is just plainly telling a lie. You know back home in Salone, all okobo men always talk about woman biznez so as to fool the public that they can perform, when they can't?
Hey, quick request for you, why not push the poll thing to the guys of this forum. It is a no brainer, if you have the clit you get aroused and you fuck with passion. You can not force things when the feeling is not there. Guys will agree with me that it is better you have less work to do to arouse your girl than having to spend a whole night just to try and make akonkless bitch feel honey. And when she does feel honey, you better use some "chiness rub" to last at least an hour or else she would never climaxed (or cum). I am telling you out of personal experience. Those folks who followed my earlier debate will tell you.
Guys keep this debate alive, it is sure better than the name calling and the pull him down crap that our community is infected with. Check me out in Freetown this December, and join my campaign. It will be your opportunity to finally meet me......and maybe next time you will recognize me in the streets in the Bronx.
Subject: Re: IT'S BETTER WITH UNCIRCUMSISED SISTERS!
From: Looking in
To: All
Date Posted: 20:02:28 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: nc-76-0-177-82.dhcp.embarqhsd.net at 76.0.177.82
Message:
As my teen son would say: "TMI" (too much information).
Subject: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:22:17 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
.. the things that matter the most
I think the FGM issues has been delved into and blown out of proportion on this forum – ironically, by the same gender group that introduced the practice into the traditional society years ago. Is there any other serious issue that is devastating our communities e.g. AIDS/ HIV that the chauvinist of this forum could opine. What about the AIDS/ HIV epidemic and the way it is RAVAGING OUR COMMUNITIES IN SILENCE? Isn’t AIDS more important than FGM – Oh I see! It is not as controversial as FGM, and folks like the controversial issues to make a name for themselves.
To all the FGM zealots on this forum who think FGM is more of a threat to our society than anything else, please get a life and let’s change the topic and focus on what matters the most - not what creates the most noise or controversy.
People are dying from AIDS/HIV, so maybe focusing on how we get more aid, grants, etc. to help educate the masses on prevention, testing and living with the disease would be rewarding
Peace!
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 17:01:00 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
Fullah Musu, Jarrah Mah.
Tana-Alla Torn?
In Futa Jalloh, your response would be "Jan Toon." This literally means "It's all peaceful."
You are absolutely right about putting the Bondo behind us. As a matter of fact, Kailahun District tradition forbids me, or any brother on this forum, from discussing the Bondo with unrestrained liberalism. Be that as it may, I often fret beneath my skin when an African tradition is attacked by Africans using the colonial master's logic. If the "civilized" West is so interested in saving Africa from backwardness, what explanation do Washington and London have for casting out chains of economic colonization to Africa through the IMF? Striving for responsible governance and poverty reduction should be much more topical among us than futile exercises in Bondo-bashing. Am I just as uncivilized for being a Poro initiate? May be so, in the eyes of His Imperial Majesty, Lord Lugard.
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 19:38:11 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-8-111-25.mia.bellsouth.net at 65.8.111.25
Message:
Lovey Dovey
I hope you are not assuming the above article is mine.
Hey.... Come closer .... Yes closer ... Whiiiiissshhhh.
You are dying to hear from Sheba not so? .... One of these days she might just show up, but not to discuss the above topic...
AristoCat might not be far behind either, just to pull Long John Silver's leg ...
So far, it's all about the lady my dear
One another note .... I got it, will respond tomorrow.
Thanks for checking up on your sister. You are too kind.
Okay... Now go wash your eyes, and take a look at the name again ...... Whiiiisssssshhh ..... Ooooops
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 00:34:51 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Lady J, I mistook SHABBA for Sheba. See How I miss Africa Online?
I can only hope Shabba will disregard the earlier posting.
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: SHABBA
To: All
Date Posted: 11:53:53 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: us_proxy_indy.xh1.lilly.com at 40.0.40.10
Message:
Enviable – you are fine, your response was not offensive and besides, because you always show great common sense in your postings, I was not offended by your comments.
Regards!
Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: PULL WHO'S LEG?
To: All
Date Posted: 19:58:20 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-68-49-205-105.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 68.49.205.105
Message:
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Subject: Re: ENOUGH ON FGM - Let's focus on ...
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 20:32:05 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-8-111-25.mia.bellsouth.net at 65.8.111.25
Message:
AristoCat will get you.... U wait...
Meoowwww
Subject: TRANSITION TEAM REPORT IS NOT WORTH MUCH
From: Lumumba
To: All
Date Posted: 15:24:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: Lumumba@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
the transition team report seems to have little or no structure; does not give us snapshots of the status quo and lacks depth on the issues. A competent team as the one assembled should avoid the temptations of providing us with those 200 page long UN style documents.
President Koroma wants a snap shot, not a lecture.
Subject: Re: TRANSITION TEAM REPORT IS NOT WORTH MUCH
From: Expert
To: All
Date Posted: 05:23:52 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
Yes exactly so, and I wonder, who will even bother to read it.It reads more like a country-information sheet than report.I am sure, it has been copied from UN reports
Subject: Re: TRANSITION TEAM REPORT IS NOT WORTH MUCH
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 15:41:36 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.87.143.3
Message:
Please give us a link so we can judge ....
Subject: FGM: For Alieu
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 14:53:13 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.108.68.10
Message:
Alieu,
This Bondo issue has been an issue in Africa well before the Human right protocols were developed. I don't know whether you are aware of this; but let me say that in Sierra Leone, we have tribes that are not practicing it at all. There are tribes that do practice it. The tribes that practice it are in majority. The women even laugh at each other, when those who practice it refer to those are not practicing it as “Gborokas” The story goes deeper than that. So those who are not practicing it are embarrassed sometimes when they are called "GBOROKAS"
As a matter of fact, those tribes that are not practicing it at all are in the fore front against FGM. You said that there have been studies conducted to show problems related to childbirth because of FGM? I don't believe you at all. And don't tell me anything about the reports or statements made to the Immigration, by some Asylum seekers, who have said that they ran away to seek asylum in the West because part of their body was cut off. Then the proof is that a medical doctor examined them and yes indeed, that was the case. Then they have evidence to back up their case. If any longitudinal studies have been done, show us the publications. That is why I said, to proof or disproof the assertions made, select experimental groups and control groups among different tribes in different countries and follow them for 20 years or so. Then interview them as they grow older and becoming parents about their childbirth, sex experiences etc. They will share their experiences under normal conditions and not when looking for asylum or something else.
Alieu, you are making people to go too deep into things that are not necessary.
Have done a study that compared childbirth complications cases related to FGM and non FGM women? Sow us the study. When we want something in the Western world, coming from a third world country, we say all kinds of lies, just to get asylum or grants as an NGO with the notion of going back to fight against it or educate people. We do that to ourselves.
Subject: Re: FGM: For Alieu
From: SOWEI
To: All
Date Posted: 18:13:07 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.91.143.20
Message:
Why bother the learned Alieu with questions about Bilakorow bizness? In fact reseach has proven that the incidence of HIV/AIDS is less common among the circumcised. In east, central and southern africa circumcision is now encouraged, especially among men.
Can't you fathom that there is a direct correlation between circumcision and hygiene and between hygiene and HIV/AIDS. Forget about the terminology 'FGM'. In african lexicon we call the practice 'circumcision'. FGM is a new coinage. My english teacher at secondary told me many years back that the right term was 'excision'
The issues around the subject may be too passionate to elaborate and for that matter I'll stop here. Period.
Subject: A Rotten Brick in the Wall? No, Not Me!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 14:12:45 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Hey Guys, thank you all for being busy debating FGM. It is my pleasure to respond to one of you that wondered if I am a rotten brick in the wall or else that individual wanted to get my take on the debate. Well, I am alive and willing to participate in the debate. If fact, I have been reading all the exchanges but have no time to write responses or provide my own opinion. Reason, I have a lot of mid term papers to grade and other job commitments including a brief official travel. I am back and grades are in the system. Hopefully, I will have something to say soon.
I will be in Freetown on or around December 16, I will avail myself to all the major spots (or joints) hoping to see folks from the diaspora and probably seek some help pushing my agenda through to parliament and other higher places of government.
Eid Mubarak (belated) to my muslim brothers and sisters the world over.
Got to go teach now!
Subject: Re: A Rotten Brick in the Wall? No, Not Me!
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 18:20:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: smtpgateway.azdes.gov at 207.108.136.243
Message:
Mbalu,
Thanks for your response. I was wondering why you have not responded on a topic you started. That was why I tried to draw your attention. I am looking forward to response on the suggestion that a bill should be passed in parliament forcing FGM should only be performed by qualified doctors instead of banning it.
NOTE: When I refer to doctors I am not talking of Dr. Syvia Blyden. She is more of a journalist than a medical doctor.
Subject: Re: A Rotten Brick in the Wall? No, Not Me!
From: Mbalu
To: All
Date Posted: 11:59:38 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Political,
Thanks. I will start my responses and writing my opinions soon. On the FGM bill, I will definitely playing my lobbing role over the x-mas break down in Freetown.
Yes, I agree Sylvia is more of a newswoman (not a journalist) and businesswoman than a doctor. She is an interesting personality, to say the least.
Subject: concorioko is a lying skyamp - Awareness Times Editor.
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:53:12 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Nah joke...
Unu all too serious..
But what if it was true?
Did kabs fabricate a story?
Or did sylvia retract?
Or is this one of those preboxing hype kind of thing...? Where everyone is talking trash to hike the circulation numbers...?
Is there nothing better to report..?
What did Ernest eat for lunch..? Where ...? Nah Sia Cook..? Or nah want dem tanni..?
What did he wear..? Did he sleep at home..? Different bed..? Same room..?
How many relatives from binkolo now tap nah the compound.. ?
These are what we want to know.. (I meant if nothing betteh nor dey for report but).
Not which color draws sylvia wears, thongs of briefs..or if she even wears any..
Leave the poor gyal alone...we dont care...
Subject: CHEERS FOR BRA ENVIABLE
From: J.J BLOOD
To: All
Date Posted: 13:16:53 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cs307bimac019.gsu.edu at 131.96.237.28
Message:
Out of curiosity, I need to meet Envaible in person. Enviable can email me
at Freedomluvstruth@yahoo.com.
Each time Enviable converses on this forum, I get something from him
even when I disagree. From yesterday about Dr. Olloh to female genital
circumcision to cabinet posts, Enviable sounds enviable even when I do
not agree with him. I need to talk to this terrific brother.
Freedomluvstruth@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: CHEERS FOR BRA ENVIABLE
From: WATERMELON
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:56 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: watermelon@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.113.148.2
Message:
JJ Blood we need your comments on Ambassador Leighs comments below.
"As you might suspect, SLPP was hijacked by powerful newcomers into the party and by their cronies (mostly crooks from the OLD APC)from genuine party members". Jonathan Leigh.
SO NAR UNA POIL THE TORGBOI Eh!!!
Subject: Re: CHEERS FOR BRA ENVIABLE
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:40:43 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
I second that..
Though i do not want to sound like you, almost in love with the man..
I do have greate admiration for the fella..
Subject: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 13:09:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.142
Message:
Now that SLPP partisans are threatening to beat up ex-president Kabba and scourge Pa Berewa with soaked kobokos, many potential aspirants for the top position are running scared. The SLPP gbogbo are in a particularly foul mood following the devastating defeat in the elections.
I understand that hamburger-gobbling diasporans who, after quaffing a coupla six packs of Bud, imagine themselves as leadership material, have suddenly become yellow about trying to become the big enchilada of the SLPP. They are scared of being manhandled by a mob of angry SLPPers. One SLPP honcho in Washington, DC was very clear about his change of heart. "I want to be leader, but I don't want to be whipped. Do you see the Kobokos they have stashed in HQ waiting to thrash Pa Kabba and Berewa?", my friend said. Even John Mannah the financial economist has decided to economise the pain of the whip and decline a run for the job of head honcho of the SLPP.
I am appealing to all my SLPP comrades in the Diaspora to please show some toughness and run for the leadership of the party.
ALIEU SESAY, CANDID ONE, KAMARA, ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA UNU YERRI EH? WETIN NAR SMALL KOBOKO BA? KANDA WARM, KANDA COLE.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:50:28 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
That position is meant for Charles Margai. He did not accept any position in the APC because he cannot call himself a true APC. He just helped the APC to defeat his old enemies that has been tormenting and preventing him from his rightful place. Charles is coming back to his base and would run against Ernest in 2012. My prediction, Charles will be prez in 2012. Lonta.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:01 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.87.143.3
Message:
The SLPP old guard should retire gracefully and look for a young aspiring 'turk' to take things forward.
The whirl of activity since EBK became president (out and about hands-on leadership) shows why many democracies are opting for younger leaders.
Examples: Clinton and Bush in the US, Putin in France, Blair in the UK (and Cameron now Opposition leader), Sarkozy in France, Kabila in Congo etc.
We have to get rid of the "Pa knows best" mentality and give the younger generation a chance. After all, it is THEIR future that is at stake.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Lawrence Billgreyhood.
To: All
Date Posted: 21:12:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: caintdef.sbc.com at 144.160.130.16
Message:
"Examples: Clinton and Bush in the US, Putin in France, Blair in the UK (and Cameron now Opposition leader), Sarkozy in France, Kabila in Congo etc. "
Putin in France? That's "Cute" Bra! Somtin Butu. Much love Bro.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP! - Correction
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 16:01:49 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.87.143.3
Message:
Sorry .. read as "Putin in Russia" (not France).
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Step Foward Youth
To: All
Date Posted: 16:00:56 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-69-20.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.69.20
Message:
Yes Sir! I agree wih you.Considering that the majority of Sierra Leonean voters are between the ages of 18 and 40 years old why would they need sixty and seventy year old grannies and grandpas to lead them when they can better serve themselves?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:39:51 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Mr. Somtin Butu:
Your information that no one is interested in leading the SLPP is not correct. Here in the USA, a number of SLPP people, including myself, are working to clean-up the party and domocratically elect genuine chapters across the country as well as the party's Federal Executives.
Inside SL, a number of people have come forward to indicate their interest in seeking the leadership position as well as membership in the party's NEC that needs to be elected in the near future.
As you might suspect, SLPP was hijacked by powerful newcomers into the party and by their cronies (mostly crooks from the OLD APC)from genuine party members.
I am one of those working with those who are seeking to take SLPP back to its truely nationalistic roots. Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 16:39:47 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-219-81-190.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net at 69.219.81.190
Message:
"mostly crooks from the OLD APC"
JL, I take offence to the above phrase, if anything these crooks were borrowed from the SLPP sinced its inception thus, the reason for the swift return.
You can be the best driver in the country, but from any other seat other than the driver's seat your talents will not manifest.
The above statement describes you: A man that have done plenty, and still can, but in the wrong seat of the vehicle.
Are you going to bid for the leadership?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 14:43:32 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
"As you might suspect, SLPP was hijacked by powerful newcomers into the party and by their cronies (mostly crooks from the OLD APC)from genuine party members."
Therefore, from the above statement Earnest koroma's cabinet is very strategic.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Kukujumuku
To: All
Date Posted: 14:19:20 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-148-52-112.range86-148.btcentralplus.com at 86.148.52.112
Message:
Bra Leigh, why dont you come out to declare your interest to lead the party as you are one the executive members of that party. you have all the qualities to be the leader of the party. be man enough to declare for the leadership and fight for the position. good example is president Koroma. from day one he wanted to be the leader of the apc and he fought tooth and nail for the position. today he has virtually reaped the benefit. i respect people like that.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:32:29 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Kukujumuku:
I am not an executive council member of the SLPP or any other party. Meanwhile, please note that I will make whatever decision is appropriate, if any, at the appropriate time only. Thank you. -JL
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Kukujumuku
To: All
Date Posted: 15:22:23 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-148-52-112.range86-148.btcentralplus.com at 86.148.52.112
Message:
i awaits your decision as time is not on our side. Bra leigh, sierra leone needs you and you can not stay in the US and at the same time be leader of our party. i personally have great respect for you and i don't think their is anyone out there more qualified to lead our party than yourself. this is the most appropriate time for you to move in and fight for the leadership. it is not going to be easy but if you are aspiring to be the future president of our country, which i believe you are, this is the right time.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Frued
To: All
Date Posted: 15:14:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
I have not been following what is being discussed with any considerable depth. However, John Leigh would make,
would have made a good candidate for this job. Like him
or hate him, this is the reality.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Fact
To: All
Date Posted: 15:31:09 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
True, John Leigh will make a good SLPP leader. He is not tribalistic although he sometimes says outrageous things about some people.He also has friends and contacts all over the country and seems to love his country and is not afraid to speak his mind. I wonder however, whether he will fit into the SLPP mould, with people like JJ Blood, Benjamin, Karimu and all the other nasties. Will they give him a chance?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Gongoli
To: All
Date Posted: 16:11:15 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: gonos@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-66-127-21.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.66.127.21
Message:
John Leigh for SLPP leadership? If that's
the case you better close the party down and start a new one. This man is an opportunist who should not darken the doors of our political scene anymore. Any party in Sierra Leone needs a young and dynamic leadership and John Leigh has definitely passed his sell-by date.
He also cannot be trusted. I was in a meeting for the Albert Academy Old Boys Association where he stated that over a million dollars was collected in America to send to the school. This was not only a figment of his imagination, but thinking about it now, it was a pre election ploy that horribly went wrong.
What the SLPP or any political party needs now is not people who might want to recoup any losses they have incurred in the past. Most people are slating the APC for putting people without experience in ministerial positions. But the people they have chosen(in my opinion) are capable of doing a good job if they have the support and resources to work. You dont have to be a genius to work in government. As long as the
I prefer new people coming in rather than recyling the old stock. If the SLPP want to get back into power, they have young and upcoming contenders to take the mantle, forget about these old cronies who have failed us time and time again.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Frued
To: All
Date Posted: 15:51:14 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-91-34-65.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.91.34.65
Message:
They may give him a hard time but with the IC on John's
side thanks to his anti AFRC/RUF rhetoric during the junta days.
The fact that the country needs a good opposition watch
dog makes him even more fit for the job. The Benjamins
and co are just political hustlers ready to do anything
for a living.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 13:37:55 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Though i think this is an exercise in wasted bandwidth, let me attempt at clarity one more time..
I am not a member of the SLPP, never was, never been..
I supported them during the last election.. i would have voted berewa if i was a registered voter..
But i am not a card carrying member..neither would i care at this stage who is the top huncho..
I have added white and blue to my colors after the election.. and gone back to salone mode switching off election mode.. as we all should...
I do hope the SLPP chooses someone we can all aspire to and keep the democratic fire burning, if they bounce back and salivate me with proper national agenda, i might go green.. if Ernest's performs, first term goals and promises kept, i might be going red next election season..
Yes, call me flip flopper, burn me at the cross..
I am not a diehard..
My religion, is salone.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:02 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.232.76
Message:
Candido, you never cease to amaze me. Remeber we've been here before and you absolutely made it clear that you're a very strong SLPP supporter. Why change of view now.
Don't dessert your party because of misfortune.
As for me, I've always maitained that I don't have definite party to support but which ever does well for the good of the country.
This time I'm APC for the next five years. Don't copy my style.
Though I don't like loyal support for a party, because I believe loyal supporters are not always for the interest of the nation, meaning even if the party mess up they still go with the flow.
Stay blessed.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Mr Grant...
I expressed strong support.. and i will continue to do so as and when i see fit on this and other forum depending on the issue been discussed and what side of the bed i wake up or if i GOT SOME the previouse night.. my prerogative...
This thread is about leading the party.. and my handle was mentioned.. I just wanted to make it clear.. i am only a supporter.. i have never given a cent.. dont have a wardrobe full of green vests, not registered etc.. etc.. JUST support... thats it..i do hope thats not looked at in a negative light.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:18:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.243.122.56
Message:
My friend, the same is attributed to me like I said, loyal support for a party is not the answer for our democracy.
I have respect for you bro.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 14:15:24 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 65.82.23.33
Message:
Candid
I like your wit ... You made me LOL.
Thanks
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 13:13:02 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
I need fifteen years to contest the Leadership of my Party. When that time comes, i will proudly present my case to the SLPP and if i am elected, will lead them to VICTORY.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 16:48:06 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-219-81-190.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net at 69.219.81.190
Message:
How old will you be then?
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 16:54:21 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Old enough to be constitutionally qualified to lead the Party and Nation...
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: the Guy
To: All
Date Posted: 07:25:10 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 130.36.27.151
Message:
Great! you got my vote.
Subject: Re: WHY NOBODY WANTS TO LEAD THE SLPP!
From: TINK YOU DO ME
To: All
Date Posted: 08:09:08 10/16/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host81-154-57-248.range81-154.btcentralplus.com at 81.154.57.248
Message:
Right, I will send you your sixty thousand leones and wan bag res
Subject: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 12:45:54 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-74-225-144.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 72.74.225.144
Message:
A few days ago, Cocorioko had a "Plans to Blackmail Cocorioko' article on the website. I responded in a post that Cocorioko, is beginning to sound like Sylvia Blyden for putting up "news" like this and to not fall into the trap of putting up every attack on the newspaper and Mr. Kanu or to start reporting on "news" about individuals related to this newspaer as this just turns the newspaper into a trashy tabloid.
A couple days later over the weekend, Cocorioko followed with worthless crap about an Alex Mansaray running into Sylvia Blyden at Lungi and that she congratulated Cocorioko on contributing to the election win of EK and that she does not have beef with Cocorioko, it is a fine newspaper etc. Now there is another front page item that Sylvia on Monday, has printed a rebuttal and that she made no such comments.
HELLO! This is what I was warning about. Keep this a newspaper, please! You're doing a good job. There, you have a compliments. Don't start reporting on how so and so said Cocorioko is a great newspaper or how Cocorioko helped win an election etc. Let's step it up. Too much of our representation on the internet is so third world and backwards. Make this a shining example. Please and thank you.
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Sam
To: All
Date Posted: 19:11:39 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-184-51-107.bstnma.east.verizon.net at 71.184.51.107
Message:
Was just on Awareness Times and they have what amounts to a declaration of war (see below) re this issue! Wow, this is even beyond the worst case scenario that I expected from her. Mr. Kanu, see why you can't reduce your esteemed media outlet to tabloid junk. Stay away from the back and forth with other SL newspapers. If any of them attacks you, it does not merit a response.
To highlight what I was cautioning against, about printing news about Mr. Kanu. Look at Sylvia's little volley shot below. I don't know if this is printed in the actual paper in Freetown, but look at what people looking for news have to read. Its all about the woman.
The Editor of Cocorioko is hereby being kindly asked to IMMEDIATELY remove the article he has placed on his front page which said article is completely full of inaccuracies and misquotations concerning the friendly meeting between the Publisher of this newspaper and Mr. Alex Mansaray at Lungi Airport two days ago. It will also do that editor well as a self-professed Man of God, to reflect on his sustained publication of a wicked litany of lies against the Publisher of this newspaper who has, to her deep credit, mostly ignored his penchance for publishing dangerous, hate-filled and inciteful false articles against her person.
Alex Mansaray is a gentleman who was meeting Awareness Times Publisher for the second time. The first time was during a visit to one of her Internet Cafes during which they had a nice rapport.
"The only reference I made to Alex Mansaray about Cocorioko at Lungi Airport, was to describe it as a 'lie-lie' newspaper that has sought times without number to demean me in the eyes of the public! I never spoke about their role in the APC let alone congratulated Cocorioko for its role in the just ended elections during which period he published unprintable LIES about me and my personal life. LIES, which I carefully ignored. I have bitten my tongue and placed my trust in God just as I have done all these years when Cocorioko released ceaseless lies against me to the public domain," Sylvia Blyden asserts.
If the Cocorioko Editor does not know it, THERE IS A GOD IN THIS WORLD and the Almighty's wrath, when he exercises it, against deserving people like the Cocorioko Editor, is a thing to be feared.
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Forum Veteran
To: All
Date Posted: 13:24:09 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: aca3ec82.ipt.aol.com at 172.163.236.130
Message:
It is not worthless crap, Sam. It is an interesting piece of news that speaks a lot. Ask other veteran forumites. Sylvia has always been a chameleon. This article is sort of saying: "Hey, you SLPPers out there. Listen. Sylvia will soon jump ship."
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: Londoner
To: All
Date Posted: 13:13:11 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
Syntax versus semantics! Your heading is misleading to say the least. I think you meant 'tell a lie' as opposed to 'lie on'.
Subject: Re: ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
From: London
To: All
Date Posted: 13:12:44 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-249-162.cable.ubr05.haye.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.249.162
Message:
Syntax versus semantics! Your heading is misleading to say the least. I think you meant 'tell a lie' as opposed to 'lie on'.
Subject: sloppy or no proof reading
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 12:34:08 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
Headlines in error is taking away the readership quality. Kabs please fire your proof reader. My American colleagues grilled (Provoke- krio) me this morning. I am so disappointed.
ALEX MANSARAY : WHY WOULD I LIE ON SYLVIA BLYDEN ?
LIE ON????
New Jersey Morgage Banker and Businessman
Morgage????
for its elections -time role
elections -time role????
during their chance meeting
chance????
Subject: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 10:04:22 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
A recurring issue on various internet fora has to do with the ethnicity of the members of cabinet. Why is this such an important issue for people? I am hard pressed to see what difference a Minister's ethnicity makes especially since they are no longer MP's representing a consituency. A cabinet minister serves at the pleasure of the president to implement the president's agenda. Which is why the forcible inclusion of opposition parties in a so-called government of national unity makes no sense at all. How can we expect members of the SLPP to work harmoniously in goverment with the APC and then contest an election against them in 2012? Who will take credit for any achievements or failures? Na so one-party state kin begin!
But back to the issue of ethnicity of cabinet Ministers. Is there a belief that cabinet members may be biased to one region over another in the distribution of government largesse/development projects? Is there any evidence to support this belief? In every presidential administration since 1970, there has been regional dominance in the cabinet. And for the most part, these guys have enriched themselves personally without regard to their home consituencies. Other than S.I. Koroma and a few others, many did not even direct development projects to their area of origin. So why is ethnicity considered to be so important?
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's - AND History...
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:06 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.87.143.3
Message:
KKW, I do admire your idealism (your quote from Shakespeare's Hamlet explains much about your thinking).
Unfortunately, unlike the US and other western democracies, sub-Saharan African states do not have the benefit of political parties based on ideology. Our countries did not evolve through voluntary alliances but were forged overnight via the barrels of colonial guns and the hangman's noose (remember Chief Bai Bureh?).
So, whether we like it or not our systems are currently tribal and will be so for a while until natural genetic intermingling makes the issue redundant. In the meantime, it is essential that major tribal and regional blocks feel represented in any national government that wishes to preserve harmony.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 12:47:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
Please don't try to make like you just entered SL from out of space. Tribalism and Regionalism are a matter of fact in SL politics. Those two factors definitely influence our political system.
Even if tribalism is not taken into account, but regionalism should, in order to show "national representation" for the sake of epecting national confidence. Visit this link and see the analysis
Would you have been happy to see all Mendes or only people from the Suth and East in an SLPP government?
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:36 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
Brother Toegondoe, is it true that the APC ARE SUSPICIOUS OF CHARLES? A TOP APC WIG has confided in me that they distrust your man. By the way your OneSaloneNews appears professional.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 10:41:57 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
KKW, The past instances discussed in your piece occurred when Sierra Leone was an authoritarian state with unchallenged powers in Siaka Stevens. In this "New Dawn" where accountability is supposedly in vogue, a balanced cabinet is needed for fair, developmental representation. I am NOT calling for SLPP men to be co-opted into President Koroma's government. Far from it. The APC has quite a number of South-Easterners in its fold, and an even-handed distribution of cabinet posts in a government promising fair play, will be acceptably appropriate.
Last week, you drew an analogy with the federal government of the United States with regards to political appointments. The error in that comparison lies in the fact that the American political system is a union of states with a lot of local autonomy and resources for the execution of everyday business. Poor and centralized as we are, the absence of representation from the center of state power in Freetown, could easily turn into neglect.
Neglect deepens into abandonment, which gives rise to cones of squalid poverty in return. Those living within such "Bantustans" of poverty invariably associate their conditions with ethnicity. I am saying this with all the experience and recollections I have as a South-Easterner. Such analyses may be wrong, but that is how Sierra Leone is observed in the interior when state actors are heavily concentrated within a specific region.
We are different from America, and comparisons pitting American modes of power distribution to ours, are a bit far-fetched. I have known you online for quite sometime, and you are one of the most harmless brothers I know. That is why I chose to go over this topic. I normally move on after the first discharge of opinionated steam. Have a nice, brother KKW
U Man,
Nya Ngaa Tikekeh
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: silent majority
To: All
Date Posted: 12:52:39 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 195.54.227.249
Message:
"Poor and centralized as we are, the absence of representation from the center of state power in Freetown, could easily turn into neglect.
Neglect deepens into abandonment, which gives rise to cones of squalid poverty in return. Those living within such "Bantustans" of poverty invariably associate their conditions with ethnicity."
Bra E, like you i am responding because i recollect some enlightening contributions from you on this forum.
You may be right about the perception of the people living in 'Bantustans' You may also be right about the fact that they blame ethnicity.
But by your own admission the heart of the problem is 'NEGLECT' by the centre of power. It is the president that has a mandate. If such a president is predisposed to neglecting large areas of the interior then surely he will suffer the consequences in this 'new dawn'. Furthermore the ministers serve at the pleasure of the president so again if the president is prepared to neglect any areas then even if the minister comes from that area he is still bound to do the president's bidding or lose his job. Result: neglect.
In my view the critical issues in the 'new dawn' are
a; whether the president has a programme for delivering sustainable jobs, running water, electricity and other developments for the greatest number of voters.
b; whether he can find the right people with talent, determination and resourcefulness to deliver this programme as he is bound to meet with resisitance from erstwhile vested interests and a general resisitance to change.
If you accept that analysis then it follows that the presidents overriding consideration in selecting ministers must be merit, commiiment to his programme etc. Not ethnicity. Because in the final analysis it is the President that will be called to account for his stewardship at the next elections and if he has not delivered on jobs, light and water the 'balance of his cabinet is unlikely to count for much.
In my view that fact that a 'state actor' is from one's area offers little more that a temporay 'feel good' factor. There is little to suggest that this is a great factor in driving the performance of a 'state actor' to the benefit of his area. The real driver of perfomance of the minister in this 'new dawn' is the programme of the president and the capacity of the president to monitor his ministers performance. So it is the presidents programme that must be balanced.
In conclusion therefore; what we really need in this 'new dawn' is a government of national delivery rather than a government of national unity.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 11:19:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
Bra E - we can agree to disagree on this point. As far as I am aware, there is no region in Sierra Leone, (even the capital) that is not dirt poor. From my travels around the country, I have not seen any evidence that one region is noticeably more developed than others. In fact arguably the cities of Bo and Kenema in the south east show more promise than say, Makeni or Port Loko.
Even looking at some of the projects in the Transition Committee's report, I do not see regional bias. If the correlation between ethnicity at the centre and distribution of the national cake were true, we should have seen the majority of projects going to the South-East during the last 10 years or so.
So I think we are talking about perception rather than reality. If people "feel good" that their kinsfolk are part of the administration, even though their region does not directly benefit from it, well, we're talking about an intangible, unsupported by facts.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: national unity
To: All
Date Posted: 10:38:41 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
They can be from APC but from other regions. That is what i believe is lacking in the current cabinet.
Subject: Re: About "balanced" cabinets and GONU's.
From: SGK
To: All
Date Posted: 18:59:39 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: sheku-kamara@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 91.84.136.50
Message:
national unity,
My brother it is very difficult to find someone from the the east/south-east whole heartedly loyal to the APC party and the president as a whole. I think that was the conundrum for the president.
Subject: Looking for Ticket
From: mo
To: All
Date Posted: 08:54:29 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: mahamay22312@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 69.25.45.6
Message:
I guess there was someone who said they sell tickets to freetown through Brussels or France; could you please contact me by email or give a number with area code that you could be reach.
Or do anybody knows how i can get a better deal for tickets to Freetown? please help.
kind regards
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: Bhaskar
To: All
Date Posted: 21:32:10 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: bhaskarsmail@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe00195b4bf214-cm001a667071fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com at 99.227.232.7
Message:
Fly from anywhere in Canada to London (Gatwick) tickets are as less as CAD 400 return and then on from London fly AIR MOROC it flies to freetown twice a week now. London to Morocco change of plane to Freetown. Return in Air Moroc is costing CAD/US 1150 which means your total trip is of abour 1600 only. I am not a travel agent but a frequent flier in this route. Want more info write to me, i will be glad to help you.
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: Pa Sorie
To: All
Date Posted: 19:45:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-24-168-2-173.si.res.rr.com at 24.168.2.173
Message:
try 240 988 2918, they will beat any quote u have.....
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: BRITISH AIRWAYS FOR $2,380.00
To: All
Date Posted: 10:40:06 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
I CAN SELL YOU A TICKET ON BRITISH AIRAYS TO FREETOWN FOR $2,380.00 CONTACT MOHAMED BARIGUE 240-724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: AIR FRANCE CONAKRY $1300
To: All
Date Posted: 10:42:08 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
I CAN SELL YOU A TICKET ON AIR FRANCE TO CONAKRY FOR $1,300.00 PLEASE CALL (240)724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: SLOK
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:57 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
Message:
SOUTH AFRICA TO SENEGAL IS $1145.00
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: FROM SENGAL TO FREETOWN?
To: All
Date Posted: 10:51:01 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
CAN I GO BY ROAD FROM SENGEAL TO FREETOWN OR HOW MUCH IS THE PLANE COST FROM DAKAR TO FREETOWN? THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: slok
To: All
Date Posted: 14:59:13 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
Message:
Slok cost $199.00 and 325.00 round trip to freetown.
Flight leaves on friday, saturday and tuesday.South africs goes everyday to senegal from jfk and returns to JFK and DC.
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: SN BRUSSELS TO FREETOWN FOR $1457.00
To: All
Date Posted: 10:44:25 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
I CAN SELL YOU A TICKET ON SN BRUSSELS TO FREETOWN FOR $1,457.00 PLEASE CALL MOHAMED BARIGUE 240-724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: FLY NOW PAY LATER
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:20 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
BILL ME IN 6 MONTHS OR MAKE PAYMENT PLANS. FOR THE LOWEST TICKET TO FREETOWN , PLEASE CALL MOHAMED BARIGUE @ 240-724-6246
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:04:37 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
Mohamed Barigue. his number is 240-724-6246. Lives in MD
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: BRITISH AIRWAYS REAP-OFF.
To: All
Date Posted: 11:04:07 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
Why is British airways so expensive? Are they selling the tickets in pounds and then converting the currency and then charging us. Please link below on how they are stealing money from Africans
Subject: Re: Looking for Ticket
From: AIRWAY ROBBERY
To: All
Date Posted: 11:11:34 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
They are responsible for the underdevelopment of African countries.
Subject: Cabinet
From: Observation
To: All
Date Posted: 08:38:10 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
It is very distressing to see that a brilliant,patriotic and articulate Economist J. Sanpha Koroma is left out of the Cabinet.He could be a great Asset to APC.
Subject: Re: Cabinet
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 09:50:28 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.50.182.249
Message:
There are several other places for him to make a contribution.
Subject: Re: Cabinet
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 11:40:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: m167-mp1.ppphg-12-manc.dial.ntli.net at 80.0.118.167
Message:
I believe he (J. Sanpha Koroma) can best serve by continuing to encourage other S. Leoneans to participate in the private sector. He has made a huge contribution to the development of indigenous corporate ventures.
Whatever his faults, he should be respected and honoured for "putting his money where his mouth is" and creating 100s of stable jobs for his compatriots.
Subject: EKE HOLLOWAY IS A CROOK
From: Ibrahim Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 08:29:43 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 195.172.14.80
Message:
This man has been involved in so many dubious activities and has used his connections with the SLPP to get away with a lot of things.For instance he sold a land at Juba to my late uncle and was sued by someone else who claimed the land was his.Lawyers were reluctant to pursue the case given his strong connections with the then ruling party.Eke your time is up as you can no longer hide but face justice for your criminal acts.Sierra Leone belongs to all of us and with the new dawn upon us there shall be sacred cows.Lonta
Subject: Re: EKE HOLLOWAY IS A CROOK
From: Pa Sorie
To: All
Date Posted: 19:47:14 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-24-168-2-173.si.res.rr.com at 24.168.2.173
Message:
go court
Subject: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: David Conteh, Lagost, Nigeria
To: All
Date Posted: 07:40:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: poah76@msn.com
Entered From: c-24-128-87-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 24.128.87.202
Message:
According to a Sierra Leonean resident in Nigeria, the Kabba SLPP siphoned millions of hard currency through the Sierra Leone ambassador to Nigeria,his deputy, and head of chancery. Mr. David Conteh, a student in Nigeria sent this report to The Patriotic Vanguard as a contribution under the headline, New Cabinet Ministers Announced. He earlier tried the awareness times and realized that it is pro slpp media so he sorted to put this information on The Patriotic Vanguard, appealing to the editor to pass this message to the present APC government. According to Mr. David Conteh, the three persons mentioned above are richer than a whole region in Sierra Leone and is appealing to the Koroma's administration to probe into the issue without delay. If that is true all ambassadors must be screened thoroughly with the help of their respective host governments. Mr. Conteh is also appealing to the press to make this issue known to the public. The Lebian President might also be of help to some of these allegations.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: Democracy Now
To: All
Date Posted: 12:49:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: alubless@comcast.net
Entered From: c-24-128-87-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 24.128.87.202
Message:
I hope the SL Government and the SL 'FBI' will take note of this rumor and treat it with seriousness. It is unrealistic to ask of evidence from an ordinary man who has simply try to tip the state of the information. We do not know who David Conteh is, he might be a blind man or a house boy who might be disregarded in secrete conversations so it is unwise to ignore such info on the basis of lack of evidence. In as much as rumor should not be granted as truth, it is also unwise to sit down without making any effort about it. I think it is the responsibility of the state to find the evidence if it can.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: You AxxHxxx
To: All
Date Posted: 08:23:41 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 83.229.112.2
Message:
Where is the Bank account, what is the name of account holder,what is the account number,who are the signatories???If you do not have answers for these, just sidom saful, and do not waste our time.We have a lot and lot of work to do.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: nico
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Date Posted: 08:54:47 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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"We have a lot and lot of work to do"
I agreed with the above and accountability is major part of the work.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: David Conteh
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Date Posted: 07:53:21 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: poah76@msn.com
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Sorry for the spelling mistake on the above head line. It should be THE SLPP SIPHONED MILLIONS OF $ TO NIGERIA.
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: who is conteh?
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Date Posted: 07:57:11 10/15/07 ()
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Why should anyone believe you? Where is the evidence?
Subject: Re: SLPP sighoned millions of dollars to Nigeria
From: nico
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Date Posted: 09:02:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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It is unwise to provide criminal evidence on the internet before an investigation was made. I would suggest such evidence to be forwarded to the Salone authority. They will decide whether on the bases of information at hand is cridible to mount a prema facia case against the accused. Let us not redicle people who may have genuine case on corruption.
Subject: British boost Police force
From: Bridlington Today
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Date Posted: 06:49:05 10/15/07 ()
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Police gift to Africa
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View GalleryBy Jodie Beecroft
POLICE officers in Sierra Leone are going to be able to conduct interviews more efficiently after a donation from Humberside Police.
Interview machines are not available in Sierra Leone and Humberside Police's machines were surplus to requirements, because they had been replaced by more advanced models.
Deputy Chief Constable David Griffin said: "We are happy to help our colleauges in Sierra Leone.
"The machines have played a part in many successful investigations across the Humberside Police area and I hope they will do the same in their new home."
Subject: Response by Awareness Times
From: M
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Date Posted: 01:28:09 10/15/07 ()
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Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher at Lungi
By Awareness Times
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The Editor of Cocorioko is hereby being kindly asked to IMMEDIATELY remove the article he has placed on his front page which said article is completely full of inaccuracies and misquotations concerning the friendly meeting between the Publisher of this newspaper and Mr. Alex Mansaray at Lungi Airport two days ago. It will also do that editor well as a self-professed Man of God, to reflect on his sustained publication of a wicked litany of lies against the Publisher of this newspaper who has, to her deep credit, mostly ignored his penchance for publishing dangerous, hate-filled and inciteful false articles against her person.
Alex Mansaray is a gentleman who was meeting Awareness Times Publisher for the second time. The first time was during a visit to one of her Internet Cafes during which they had a nice rapport.
"The only reference I made to Alex Mansaray about Cocorioko at Lungi Airport, was to describe it as a 'lie-lie' newspaper that has sought times without number to demean me in the eyes of the public! I never spoke about their role in the APC let alone congratulated Cocorioko for its role in the just ended elections during which period he published unprintable LIES about me and my personal life. LIES, which I carefully ignored. I have bitten my tongue and placed my trust in God just as I have done all these years when Cocorioko released ceaseless lies against me to the public domain," Sylvia Blyden asserts.
If the Cocorioko Editor does not know it, THERE IS A GOD IN THIS WORLD and the Almighty's wrath, when he exercises it, against deserving people like the Cocorioko Editor, is a thing to be feared
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 05:02:02 10/15/07 ()
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I have always known that this..woman Sylvia, is as slithery as a snake. If you play with a snake, get ready to be bitten "where the sun don't shine". Cocorioko should not be playing with a Gaboon Viper. This is a typical case of He Said, She Said. People are going to take sides on the isue. I firmly believe Cocorioko's version of events and I will leave it at that. My mouth is itching to let loose on Madam Awareness, but I heed Kabs' counsel that we let sleeping vipers lie.
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: FORREST GUMP
To: All
Date Posted: 06:47:57 10/15/07 ()
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I believe very firmly The Awareness Times version because Cocorioko has been known to twist stories around
FORREST
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 13:53:31 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
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Dear FORREST:
I respectfully beg to differ. As between Kabs and Sylbyana RUF Mrs. Foday Sankoh, Kabs is the more honest and responsible.
The other is a harloting, unprincipled, lying rouge who can turn against you in a flash in promoting her fickled-self-interests and should never be trusted, ever! Thank you. - JL
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 09:06:49 10/15/07 ()
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I believe Cocorioko because Kabs is more truthful than Sylvia Blyden. Everything that Kabs writes comes to pass. All Kabs reported about the election turned out to be true and APC won. SLPPers disputed everthing that came from his pen but Kabs was exonerated when everything came true. The Frog-Doctor on the other hand said Berewa had won the elections by 58% to 42% , going by exit polls she conducted all over Sierra Leone.It turned out to be just one of Sylvia's lies.
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: ADE LAUGH
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Date Posted: 11:07:43 10/15/07 ()
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Kabs is real and Ninja girl a farce. My two cents is that Kabs should just ignore that ugly thing of a viper.
Subject: Re: Response by Awareness Times
From: The Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 11:14:20 10/15/07 ()
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This should never have been reported in the first place; it is not a worthy news. Always endeavor to avoid your adversary as much as possible, even reporting favorable news about him.
Subject: SYLVIA BLYDEN A FAN OF COCORIOKO
From: U SA BI TALK
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Date Posted: 00:09:04 10/15/07 ()
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Alex Mansaray commonly known as Lexo in the creole circle was very very upset to learn that this Buffalo
Journalist, is denying saying that cocorioko did a superb Job for APC during the last elections .The awarenesstimes newspaper Editor, is said to have been flaurting with Lexo when she revailed her true feelings for Lexo, cocorioko and APC.Cheers to Sylvia for letting it all hang loose.
Long live cocorioko.
Subject: Re: SYLVIA BLYDEN A FAN OF COCORIOKO
From: Observer
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Date Posted: 09:11:41 10/15/07 ()
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What makes me believe that Sylvia said so is why would Kabs write a good story about his enemy ? After all, the article does a lot of good to Sylvia.Infact when I read it I was vexed and I asked whether Kabs has started again to praise and lift up Sylvia.
Subject: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 22:50:02 10/14/07 ()
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Buford why the silence my brother?
Are you now one of the PAs? Or are you a disappointed politician who expected to be a part of the Koroma Cabinet?
Usai you dae?
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: KONGOSSA
To: All
Date Posted: 08:53:53 10/15/07 ()
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Buford hwy is doing find and he is in Canada working,but he comes back to the US every weekend,and he should be back somtime this week finally. Before he left for Canada,he was called upon to serve on the transition team,but turned it down because of his contract at his job.
Bra Salone needs someone like buford hwy's knowledge,and Bra A.I.and FODAY MANSARAY can testify to that. I am in DC,but everybody knows in the rank and file of the APC that BUFORD HWY does not want any poltical appointment.
BRA AR NOR WAN BLOW EI COVER,BUT DE BORBOH GET SENSE EN MONEY NAR HERE SO EN SALONE.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:08:10 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Ar need for see am wae e cam.. whenever that is.. I will be in Sierra leone this month.. and Canada next month-Toronto and Burlington to be precise.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: KONGOSSA
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Date Posted: 09:34:58 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
watin do? u wan for mix am up nar den oona tiff en crook slpp way? doya lef de borboh saful.slpp eniside oona go nar for go corrupt.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:51:58 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Bra yousef lef me . ah...Bo watin wrong with you ba?
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 04:52:09 10/15/07 ()
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Alieu, you have some serious issues that need to be resolved on a pschiatrist's couch. You and your co-SLPP fanatic, 'Alpha' Saidu Bangura need to stanch this immature glee at what you presume to be the 'misfortune' of others. By the way, did being a loyal foot soldier of the SLPP get you buttered with some of the loot your party stole? Well, the APC is not like that. Support here does not require a kickback. So as you laugh your head off like a hyena, and obsess yourself to distraction with tribal profiling of the cabinet, just realize that you guys are gonna be in the political wilderness for 40 years like Moses. Welcome to the poitical Sanai, chump!
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 07:33:12 10/15/07 ()
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"'Misfortune'"? Buford is a friend and his abscence is a concern. Go look for somebody else for FEN PLABA.
The SLPP will be back in 2012 trust me. Your party will not deliver on the numerous promises.
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR BUFORD HWY
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:12 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Ah Alieu, the APC is gonna amaze, dazzle and scintillate the cheerleader out of your miserable party. We will deliver the goods to the Sierra Leoneans, while you greenies will be tapping wine from the barren palmtree. 40 years in power! Even Buford will get a ministerial post at some point in time.
By the way, is it true that SLPP thugs, egged on by the intellectual thugs in the diaspora have threatened to beat up ex-President Kabba if they ever lay their hands on him? I hear that a special rattan cane has been imported by John Benjamin from Segbwema for the express purpose of caning the former president. EH SLPP, U NAR NOR KNOW SAY U NAR GO TOTE SWEH FOR DAE FLAG OLD PA DEM?
Subject: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 22:23:00 10/14/07 ()
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I do not want to take part in the Bondo discussion because my views on this topic are very contrary to Western characterizations of this tradition. However, I have a question that has been lodged in me for quite some time. The phrase "female genital mutilation" is definitely very lurid, and that is how its {Western} originators want it to remain. Here is my question.
Why is it that Western moralists and prudes have NEVER referred to male circumcision as "Male Genital Mutilation, MGM?"
My intention is NOT to defend or trivialize the {perceived} abnormality in the Bondo society. However, I have quibbles with Western perceptions of Africa. As a student of International Relations, I am certainly no stranger to the manipulation of words and phrases by Western nations with racist intent. Racism is part of International Politics, and one only needs to look at the global stage to know why "genocide" was stopped in Bosnia only to have the lexical meaning of the word debated in Darfur. When the Spanish do the yearly "running of the bull" in which throngs of Europeans run in front of a charging seven-hundred pound bull, it is called a tradition. The sight of Africans doing a similar thing will be frowned upon as barbaric, hence the Western racist belief that Africans are mentally inferior.
The racist justifications for slavery continue today, albeit with subtlety. Deny a targeted people every chance to define themselves on their own terms, and move in with justifications for wanting them "civilized." This was the step taken toward slavery and colonialism. The West single-handedly decides what is civilized and what is not. Male circumcision will be probably called "Male Genital Mutilation" if it were not done in the West. Why is male circumcision not referred to as "Male Genital Mutilation?" Is it because Western policy makers are all circumcised adults?
After slavery and colonialism, why let John Bull continue to decide what is appropriate?
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 01:22:33 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Bra Enviable, Ar dae wit yu.
I posed the same question to our cyber-sista (cyber-named Mballu).
The same women that are performing these rituals or as they call it, unscientific unwestern process are the same women that are performing as midwifes at birth time in the villages.
No one is crying about deaths at births in the villages upline due to unhygeinised non-medical tools.
The midwifes in the villages have been helping out even when there are no hospitals. Heck a lot of Sierra Leonean born in the provinces during 50s to 70s were not born in hospitals.
So who took care of all our fine women?
FGM is abnormal in civilised society so we should bash it. WHAT? WHAT?
Why did the Word "MUTILATION" even got appended to the practice?
I search for the word Mutilation in wikipedia and here is what came up.
According to western standards, examples of mutilation can be found in Africa. That's what is found on wikipedia when any race wants to find out about MUTILATION. No sample of anywhere else in world except Africa.
When westerners Scar themselves in these SADIST/MASOCHISM palours, oh no no no, It is NOT Mutilation. This is called a LIFESTYLE. Give us a break!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutilation
Now you tell me Brothers what you think.
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 01:35:38 10/15/07 ()
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My Bad!
One of the photos is from Papua New Guinea (PNG), but all the same a BLACK race.
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 00:45:31 10/15/07 ()
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This may come as a surprise to you Bra E. But male circumscision is mandated in the Bible and the Koran for many reasons chief amongst them is cleanliness. Female circumscision is however not mandated either by the koran, the torah or the bible. Male circus=mscision is derived from the dictates of the Abrahimic religions which is not so for FGM.
What will surprise you however is that there are studies that show that many men in the so called western world are actually uncircumscised.
I very much support your points on the issue of the wests racisit attitudes towards our people. But to what extent have we brought that upon ourselves? You see bra E people do not respect you if you do not respect yourselves. If wee want the west to respect us we must first start by creating societies that are liveable. FGM has no place in that new dispensation.
when we relate every effort to recreate our societies according to What is right, not what is expedient, the introduction into the calculus of arguments about wersternism is an unreasonable segue which is non conforming to the thrust of the present debate. All the same your points are well taken.
Stay Blessed bra.
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: Lady J
To: All
Date Posted: 08:07:47 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
Guys,
In 2001, the Africa Online forum went up in flame on this same issue, and it created unnecessary friction amongst participants who chose to contribute.
Alieu, you are well aware that FGM is an ancient tradition, as much as the majority of us opposes it, we have been going about the wrong way to dispose of it.
In 1999, the theme for International Women’s day was violence against women, and FGM was the main topic at the Africa Women’s Caucus. We sat in our own small room fidgeting with our big head ties on our heads trying to come up with proposals to challenge our elders back home.
In 2004, when we gave an update, there was some improvement here and there, but the elders are still succeeding. This means that we have to come up with “alternative” strategies to eradicate an old tradition.
This year , the International Women’s Day decided to use the same theme as that of 1999 …. Violence against Women. … FGM was on the list, but this time around, it was overshadowed by Rape.
Alieu, we have been doing the best we can, it’s going to take some time, but I believe you have seen some changes in Sierra Leone.
It’s a long journey, which requires a triple A card.
(Awareness, Acceptance and Action)
We are AWARE of the problem, we’ve ACCEPTED that it’s a problem, the most difficult task in our journey is taking ACTION against it.
This is where I support Lovey Dovey’s (Bra E.) sentiments … It’s our problem, now we know we don’t want it anymore, we have to apply the traditional method to eradicate it. Respect to those who believe in it, and let them know why it’s now outdated and has no use in today’s society.
In 1999, I was one of those fiery speakers at the Caucus, and I was considered too young and too passionate, even though they utilized me to the fullest …. Today, it’s a different story … I did what I did then, based on my limited experience, now that I know more than I knew then, my approach is totally different today.
What I’ve noticed so far amongst those who went through the tradition, is the anger they bring to the table because of their LOSS. This campaign is not about us, it’s about our younger sisters and those to come.
It’s about PREVENTION, not INTERVENTION…. If you have been through it, you just have to find alternative ways of getting pleasure, and sometimes taking the alternative route can be scenic, and might become the best route you ever took …. Your imagination and creativity is up for grabs
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:08 10/15/07 ()
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I enjoyed reading this response and it waslike a breath of fresh air.
Thanks!!!!!!!
Subject: Re: WHY ARE WE STILL LETTING JOHN BULL DEFINE WHO WE ARE?
From: Lovey Dovey
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Date Posted: 09:16:30 10/15/07 ()
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Lady J, Nar so u sabi raps?
In future, we go make u
Foreign Minister for
represent Salone nar
dae international community.
U geh dae xperience already.
Enty u ready eh?
Na im dat. Leh man go school.
Subject: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 19:58:48 10/14/07 ()
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Message:
Alieu,
Of all your suggestions, I support the one below. May be we should train the local people as well and provide them with modern equipments to perform the practice for health reasons. Below is your quote.
"ONLY qualified medical doctors should be allowed to conduct the procedures and any violations of that law be sanctioned by imprisonment. (Now lets see them break their Hippocratic Oath)” This is the COMPROMISE and then follow with a longitudinal study of randomly selected subjects in different countries and tribes.
Mutilation of body parts done by self or someone else is not good. There are a lot of things done to body parts that are not right. However, any of the bad acts that either originates from the West or also practice in the west is OK. But when the practice is only done by Africans or the so called “third world”, it is evil. As for me, FGM, body piercing, tattooing, self cutting, removing part of your body for fashion like plastic surgery or removing part of your body because you don’t want to have a baby, are all bad. If it is for medical reason, that is OK. These things are done in the west, but no one is condemning it under the notion of CHOICE. Once it is done in the West or originates from the West and taken to other parts of the world, Oh, the West is the model for civilization and therefore, it is OK. Once it originates from the West or the act is a practiced or endorsed by the West, nothing is wrong. Why can't the local people be trained, give them modern equipment and them do a LONGITIDUNAL study. The study will look at all the alleged ills associated to FGM. May be conclusion of the study may find it healthy or most if not all the assertions are insignificant. Some of the things the study should look at are cleanliness/hygiene, reduction of promiscuity, problems related to child birth by the procedure etc. The study should have a "control group" as well. To see if there is a significant difference between those who underwent FGM and those did that did not. If there is any difference and that difference is it positive or negative.
I don't just want someone to condemn a practice because he/she is not practicing it. When enough of such studies are done, the scientific results published, then make a movie or video CDs/DVD for people to watch and become educated about the issue. The study may reveal that there is not a significant difference between the EXPRIMENTAL GROUP AND CONTROL GROUP. A LONGITUDINAL STUDY IS ONE IN WHICH YOU FOLLOW THE SUBJECT BEFORE THE FGM, AFTER THE FGM FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 11:00:51 10/15/07 ()
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Message:
I guess Mballu may disagree with you because her version is concetrated on sexual fantasies not health issues. I want to hear what she has to say on this good suggestion if she is not another rotten brick in the wall.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 00:31:25 10/15/07 ()
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"reduction of promiscuity"
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I am laughing, my friend did you mean to say that? What if MEN were the victims of a "cultural process" that reduces their promiscuity? Would you be in support of that? Who are we to advocate for a process one of the side effects of which is to "Reduce womens promiscuity". This is a crazy idea my friend. Now lest address the other issues you have raised. MY opposition to the FGM issue is purely on human rights grounds, health and female welfare grounds nothing else. There are no positives to the practice and as a mater of fact it has been shown that many women who have undergone the process are more prone to have episiotomies during child birth than women who have not gone through the process.
I am an african and I would like to protect that aspect of our culture which is unique, but not that which in my opinion is reflective of the low esteem with which we treat our women folk. I am not opposed to FGM because it is a western idea.
So what if our culture has always been that men are subjected to a certain process which hinders their ability to sexually express themselves, or in other manners affect them negatively should we in this modern age acept that?
My take is that we gain education so that we can reflect on our societies and find ways to make it conform to the modern age. The practice has been outlawed in many other countries in Africa. Is it that we in sierra leone do not have the political will to make drastic changes in our society. My solution as outlined below is simple. Go back and read it. It does not stop the process it only provides for an educated and informed decision on the part of initiatees and their signifiicant family members.
I fully support a culture that helps to shapegirls into women, not one that mutilates them under the worst non septic surgical conditions and attempts to justify it with culture. Culture shouldnt hurt if we can help it and this we can. It is a health issue and a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE. Sure we have had many "Stupid" Ministers who have advocated for the continuance of the process. This can only be attributed to a pandering to the ignorance of our people. Many of the initiatees do not have a say in the process and are initiated without theor consent. All I am saying is that there should be some sort of INFORMED CONSENT. Whats wrong with that?
Stay Blessed brother!
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 09:24:08 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alieu,
This Bondo issue has been an issue in Africa well before the Human right protocols were developed. I don't know whether you are aware of this; but let me say that in Sierra Leone, we have tribes that are not practicing it at all. There are tribes that do practice it. The tribes that practice it are in majority. The women even laugh at each other, when those who practice it refer to those is not practicing it as “Gborokas” The story goes deeper than that. So those who are not practicing are embarrassed sometimes when they are called "GBOROKAS"
As a matter of fact, those tribes that are not practicing it at all are in the fore front against FGM. You said that there have been studies to show problems related to childbirth because of FGM? I don't believe you at all. And don't tell me anything about the report or statements made to the Immigration, by some Asylum seekers, who have said that they ran away to seek asylum because part of their body was cut off. If any longitudinal studies have been done, show us the publications. That is why I said, to proof or disproof the assertions made, select experimental groups and control groups among different tribes and follow them for 20 years or so. Then interview them as they grow older and becoming parents about childbirth, sex etc. Then share their experiences under normal conditions and when looking for asylum or something else.
Alieu, you are making people to go too deep into things that are not necessary.
Have done a study that compared childbirth complications cases related to FGM and non FGM women? Sow me the study. When we want something in the Western world, coming from a third world country, we say all kinds of lies, just to get asylum or grants as an NGO with the notion of going back to fight against it or educate people. We do that to ourselves.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Wan Ten Kemeh
To: All
Date Posted: 07:00:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: kemeh@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 202.70.85.3
Message:
I wonder where you got the idea that Bundu actually reduces promiscuosity. As I was saying, that is the slavish type mentality that has been ingrained in africans by the white man. I am sure that you will not oppose male circumcision because it is been practiced in the western world. To justify it, they have come up with studies that shows that it is good for men because it originated in Israel and later practiced by so-called europeans who were converted to christianity. These same white prople have produced tons of reports (like the one they used to convince the world that Saddam has weapons of mass destruction) that On the other hand bundo or Sande which has been given the name FGM by the white world is bad just because it originated in africa. Please try to grow up. Tha fact that you are living in the western world which to me means that you have that same slavish mentality does not make you or them correct.
When the white man came to africa hundreds of years ago, they told our people that the Gods thay worship are false Gods and their owm Gods are the true ones. We swallowed it hook, line and sinker. Now there are more practising christians in the third world than are in the western world. In fact according to a report released by the Chirch of England few years ago, they have more problems convincing their children that there is a God than the ones they faced when the came to Africa years ago.
have you ever sat back and look at the things that are practiced by white people that are either considered as good or as signs of good upbringing, etiquette class. Have you ever questioned some of the cultural practices of white people. They take some of these so important that someone like you will find yourself in Sierra Leomne the minute you try to question them. You however sit in europe, america or wherever you are opposing the very things that distinguishes you from the rest of the world apart from the colour of your skin. Try to grow up or as Bob Marley said "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery".
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Tribal Marks
To: All
Date Posted: 03:16:00 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-69-20.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.69.20
Message:
Of course Colonialists and their Stooges justify that Africans were colonized inorder to civilize them.,,But where does the buck stop?...
After FGM maybe the next so called human rights issue put forth by outsiders to civilize us will be traditional tribal marks(tatoos) who knows?....
To me,the fact that Debeers or Tiffany profits more from Sierra Leone's diamonds trade than Sierra Leone or Sierra Leoneans is more of human rights issue than FGM.
So let's get our priority in order...en Leh God sorry for we all!
Oona Don Eat!
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Wan Ten Kemeh
To: All
Date Posted: 22:07:16 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: kemeh@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 202.70.85.3
Message:
Thabks a lot my brother. The advice you have given in your piece is well worth it. I m personally opposed to this Bundu or Sande issue but it is purely on health and emotional grounds. If however your advice is followed, then I see no reason why we cannot continue with it in africa. This idea that is ingrained in the pysch of africans that their cultures and traditions are wrong because tgey are not approved by western nations is wrong. We should not as we say in Krio (fodom na wata en turn fish) just to please the westerners. We should cling unto our culture and traditions because that what makes us africans.
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 22:54:17 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
Message:
Thank you too my brother!
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: you sa be talk
To: All
Date Posted: 00:22:14 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74
Message:
This is a woman. Why are you refering to Wan Ten Komot
as a man
Subject: Re: Alieu: FGM
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 08:51:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
Message:
I am sory if you are a lady.
Subject: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 19:45:47 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Brabanxx@aol.com
Entered From: pool-72-82-165-200.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 72.82.165.200
Message:
Chez & Babob
You are in the noble company of HE John Leigh and myself. I attended the AA and I taught mathematics and science 79-83 before proceeding to the US. Please email me at Brabanxx@aol.com. Our school neath the trees upon the hillside is in dire need of help from her sons and daughters in the diaspora.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 04:50:46 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.34
Message:
Hey! You guys. I am an Acdemician old boy too. Don't just count me out.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 05:51:31 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 91.75.37.130
Message:
We aren't counting anyone out. Chez and me just made known the good works of Pa Omopeh Harding and we got an invite from Brabanxx.
By the way, what years were you in AA?
Esse Quam Videri!!!
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 13:39:23 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.224
Message:
I was there from 72 - 81. Knew lots of folks. I was around during the days of Omope Harding and Mamy Williams (Typing). I was a senoir of Little John. The Ansuma Bangura (son of Bishop Bangura) was a classmate. Bona Maturi, Alusine Deen, Babatunde Wagie, Alfred Beaty, Unisa Bangura, Ones Walker and later in the sixth form, Kevin Williams, Alimamy Dura Turay, Abdul Ajiji Bah, Estha Adenuga, Estha Barley, Rosemany etc. were all classmates.
Esse Quam Videri!!!
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 19:49:38 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
UK5,
I think we're in the same group but you were two to three years ahead of me. Somewhere within those years, Ones Walker and Alfred Beatty were my classmates.
I remember Alusine Deen, he used to make us proud on SLBS TV. Do you recall the gameshow all top schools used to participate in? something like TIC-TAC-TOE / Cross-word.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 02:12:01 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.83
Message:
Oh really? Ones Walker has been the Accountant of the Sierra Leone Breweries (Wellington). Alfred Beaty is in the US. I met Alusine Deen in London in 1990. We had a good time together. Accuidently bumped into people like Clifford Richards and Bona Maturi. That was way back in 1990.
Well, I hope to extend the rap later.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 04:02:38 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-205-118.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.205.118
Message:
Brabanxx, I was at the UK AAA Thanksgiving. it was well attended and I was happy to see mammy Findley. The UK group is doing well and the sermon was what you tocuhed on - to give back to our young minds what we were given. Dedication to such objectives was also a key area touched.
We are behind the new exec here in the UK - I sure hope their determination will address the issues you raised.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: The guy next door
To: All
Date Posted: 16:56:51 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ppp-69-219-81-190.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net at 69.219.81.190
Message:
What a name Chez, Mamay Findly I believe Geography, ho about Mammy Fanucie, Johnson(literature) and my darling Mammy Yellow?
I am much younger, student # 1735....
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 19:38:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Now, you're bringing the good times back.
Miss Johnson (Literature) was my class teacher in Form 1. How about Mr. McRae (mathematics)? Or Kama (PE)
Do you remember Miss Nicolson who used to live up FBC? (virtually our whole class used to be infatuated with her). I met her some years back when I went to SL for vacation. The woman doesn't get old and she's still elegant. I chatted her up and she didn't recognise that I was her past student, so I joked that I would have proposed marriage right now if she wasn't married then she laughed all the way.
Mammy Yellow was great, and she commanded respect from everyone.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 14:51:22 10/16/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 82.99.234.59
Message:
Then I must know you. All the names of teachers above taught me too. There was 'Okala' who later taught me maths in Form 3. I was surprised one day on my way home, watching from a Poda Poda, I saw Mr. McRae kissing 'Okala'. They have just wedded in a Church [don't know the name], exactly opposite Benz Garage, Blackhall Road. Can you imagine the surprise, seeing my two teachers kissing? Thank God it was a wedding!
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 01:51:16 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 91.75.37.130
Message:
Bra Bankie,
I'll get back to albertacademy@yahoogroups.com.
I've not peeped in for ages, but I'll see what's up.
I finished my 5th form at AA in 1980, but I can't remember you. Mammy Bailor was still Vice Pricipal. Mr. Kawa, Sellu (the bat) et al were still there.
Anyway, I'll touch base and send email at the addie stated above.
Subject: Re: Albert Academy Alumnus?
From: Pa Sorie
To: All
Date Posted: 19:54:05 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-24-168-2-173.si.res.rr.com at 24.168.2.173
Message:
student No. 13317.....
Subject: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 19:31:19 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
Message:
During the campaign I told members of the APC in the USA that President Ernest Koroma has no respect and trust in any of them. But my brothers and sisters in the APC north America did not believe me.
I encourage members of the APC N/AMERICA region to look at the composition of Mr. Koroma's cabinet and tell me how many people he nominated from this region?
Please, do not tell me about Alhaji Abu Bakarr Jalloh because he has moved to Sierra Leone a long time ago.
Mr. Koroma does not appreciate your financial and moral contributions to his success.
I know for a fact that 65% of the money spent by the APC came from the USA chapter.
Mr.Charles Margai will never forget that most of the money his party(PMDC) used came from his USA chapter that is why he nominated three of his members for ministerial appointments.
I will like members of the APC N/America region to keep in their minds that any other position(deputy minister, ambassador, head or member of a board) given to them is lesser in rank and status to the position of minister.
A huge number of your members left the USA(their jobs and families), went to Sierra Leone helped the party win the elections but when the time for the APC to pay them back came, they were ignored. I am sure that Mr. Koroma promised members of the APC N/America some positions.
It is my understanding that the APC-N/America is organizing a victory dance on Oct.20th, 2007 in Maryland and all the proceeds will to go the Mr.Ernest Koroma when he comes the USA, very soon. It is interesting to know that you guys want to thank him(Mr. Koroma) for disrespecting your region.
This is the true APC- the party of ungrateful leaders.
SHAME ON ALL MEMBERS OF THE APC NORTH AMERICA FOR SUPPORTING A PARTY THAT WILL NEVER BE THANKFUL TO THEM.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 22:41:35 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Mr Bangura,
I am going to be very nice to you and tell you to please be quiet and fast again another thirty days and ask for God's forgiveness. You spew quranic phrases and quote suras like an ascetic Imam, whlle your heart smokes with malice and atrocious ill will to your fellow man. You pray five times a day and yet take pleasure in the misery of others. I am not a member of the APC franchise in North America and yet I find your glee at what you believe to be the misfortune of others, wretched, childish and absurd. Not everyone expects to be named a minister as a result of their contributions. Taking part in the democratic process that kicked out a corrupt cabal is reward enough. For many patriots, an electrified, job-creating, economy-expanding, safe, peaceful and democratic Sierra Leone is sweeter than any personal aggrandizement. Please readjust your patriotism to altruism, sir.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Brabanxx
To: All
Date Posted: 21:17:56 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Brabanxx@aol.com
Entered From: pool-72-82-165-200.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 72.82.165.200
Message:
Mr. Bangura I beg to differ with you on your characterization of HE EBK. In as much as it is true that the spoils are for the victor,in a situation like this, one should not expect the president to just appoint people because of their financial contributions alone. There are certain constitutional requirements that precluded members from the diaspora to be nominated to ministerial positions.One of which is that ministers and deputies should be registered voters. In one of my earlier posts I drew your attention to the fact that the constitution also precludes Mr. Margai from becoming a minister.
Twenty people from the the US went for symbols and sixteen were awarded. I don't think that was a bad representation considering the amount of people that were "home based." Most of the people in North America came into the political scene after the camp was loaded with home based die-hards. You will also agree with me Mr. Bangura that if the cabinet were filled with APC from the diaspora,you would have been the first one to cry foul-the cabinet was bought and sold by the APC in the diaspora. In the USA not all of the contributors to a political campaign get what they want. This is also true for Sierra Leone. At this point I will advise all APC North America members to take heart. Wata way nar for you e nor go run pass you.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 02:38:50 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
I think Alpha Saidu is a mischief maker. Firstly, has anyone complained to him about not being appointed to the cabinet? This is a very unintellegent glee. The APC, unlike the SLPP, is by far pro diasporas and knows how to look after its supporters. In contrast, the SLPP is anti -diaspora and needlessly practiced the politics of appeasement to the detriment of their own support base. The APC awarded the party symbols to 16 diasporean. The SLPP did not award symbol to a diasporean in the just concluded election. Correct me if i am wrong. One Kailahun lady in USA who made substantial contribution in community development in kailahun was a better candidate, but was fouled out by Dr Sama Banya in fauour of his home bases relative. I know several diasporeans who tried to secure the SLPP party symbols in kenema district but were all rebuffed. Alpha, you being a party faithful should be rather concerned with such didparaties.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:28:52 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Mr. nico:
I thoroughly agree with you that the New APC under President Koroma is pro-Diasporan while the defeated SLPP appeared anti-Diasporan.
I know this from intimate personal knowledge as I was an intended victim.
First, APC awarded its red rising-sun election logo to approximately 21 Diasporans from both North America and Europe - all of whom won and are sitting in parliament today. One unfortunately died in a road
accident with the late Mr. Kaloko.
SLPP, on the other hand, awarded its palmtree symbol to only one Diasporan, a lady, Ms. Kowa, who won in Bumpeh, Bo District. But that is not all.
In the unreasonable and crooked events leading up to the notorious, gangster-like SLPP Makeni ConBention in September 2005, the SLPP-NEC that conducted that rouge affair had at its first meeting in four yearts in July 2005 at the Bank of Sierra Leone Complex at Kingtom, passed an anti-Diasporan resolution to bar non-resident party members(i.e.Diasporans)from holding certain high party positions(including the party leader, party chairman, secretary-general and similar positions), until they have returned home and established residence there for up to at least five years.
However, this resolution requires a second passing and by a subsequent party NEC. This never occurred.
And at one-or-two campaign stops in the provinces that I attended, I heard speakers demanding from the floor that no non-resident member should be given the party symbol to contest parliamentary seats because only those at home are with the people. But this mentality is changing and no one was denied the palmtree symbol merely because of his diasporan status. In fact, a Diasporan nearly won the palmtree symbol for the parliamentary seat in Sumbuya, Bo District.
Let's hope that all our leaders and our people will see the immense value of including all SLeoneans equally in the huge task of bringing sustainable progress to our country. - JL
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: poorman
To: All
Date Posted: 21:11:04 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: manso@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-72-66-26-251.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.66.26.251
Message:
SAIDU,1.WE NOR TO TEGLOMA 2 WE NOR PUT WE KUPUR FOR LEH E GEE WE POSITION 3 WAY SALEONE BETEH WE GO APPY 4 WE NOR DEA PLAN FOR BEAT WE YESTERDAY EN TEDAY LEADER DEM 5 USE DIS MOT MOT FOR MAK YOU BRODER DEN NOR BEAT WE EX PRESIDENT.6 WAYTIN HAPPEN WIT DE SPORT EN DIPLOMATIC PASSPORT BLUFF.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 20:39:34 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
I don't know what may or may not have been promised, but it would be impossible for the president to repay all of his supporters with positions. The greatest way he can "pay back" those who supported him is by doing a good job and not betraying their confidence by not being a good steward over the countries resources.
Subject: Re: BABOO--O EYE TO ALL APC N/AMERICA MEMBERS.
From: Looking in
To: All
Date Posted: 20:12:10 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: nc-76-0-177-82.dhcp.embarqhsd.net at 76.0.177.82
Message:
The emphasis you place on who was given prime positions is sad. All Sierra Leoneans are in the position to contribute to their country and to contribure well. Positive politics is a good thing. If you have beef with your President, then support your party of choice, democratically, in the next election.
Subject: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: Toegondoe Sagbah
To: All
Date Posted: 19:03:24 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: mendemoi@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-168-132-186.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 71.168.132.186
Message:
SEE THE ANSWER AND ANALYSIS ON THE WEBSITE PROVIDED BELOW: http://www.OneSaloneNews.com
Subject: Re: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: UK5
To: All
Date Posted: 01:51:48 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: unikad5@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 213.217.51.106
Message:
Let's assume that what EBK term as a 'government of national unity' is not what we all had in mind. The magnitude of expectation may have been hyped. Perhaps, the term may have its rightful meaning when it comes to the distribution of dupty ministerial positons. But let's face it, what contibution did the SLPP made in APC election victory? It will portray some kind of deficiency in EBK's self confidence and command of leadership to even consider an unnecessary overture as rewarding the SLPP with ministerial positions as many of its folks were hoping.Rewarding them for what? For 'OPINKOL' politics! Bo Duya! It's winner takes all, remeber!
Subject: Re: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:54:36 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
EBK three foot you? You haven't seen nada... You just begin complain...You were the same dude calling the SLPP a tribalistic Party. In the APC proposed cabinet: there is no Easterner, and one southerner...
See how many people have lost their jobs already to Norterners is Freetown.
Subject: Re: Does Pres. Koroma's Cabinet Reflect A National Unity Govt.?
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 22:54:19 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
The statistical tribal distribution of the population at large and that within the parties cannot allow for the balance some expected.
Besides, it does not matter who is minister and who is not. It is a matter of who will change the bottomline.
I don't care if you are a high school dropout or from the minority Loko tribe.
Subject: ATITI DA DA DA MAO MAO OH
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 18:50:04 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ewkY1JBTOgE
Celebrating our beautiful culture.
Subject: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Awareness Times
To: All
Date Posted: 18:45:33 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 196.44.99.114
Message:
Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher at Lungi
By Awareness Times
Oct 14, 2007, 23:07
The Editor of Cocorioko is hereby being kindly asked to IMMEDIATELY remove the article he has placed on his front page which said article is completely full of inaccuracies and misquotations concerning the friendly meeting between the Publisher of this newspaper and Mr. Alex Mansaray at Lungi Airport two days ago. It will also do that editor well as a self-professed Man of God, to reflect on his sustained publication of a wicked litany of lies against the Publisher of this newspaper who has, to her deep credit, mostly ignored his penchance for publishing dangerous, hate-filled and inciteful false articles against her person.
Alex Mansaray is a gentleman who was meeting Awareness Times Publisher for the second time. The first time was during a visit to one of her Internet Cafes during which they had a nice rapport.
"The only reference I made to Alex Mansaray about Cocorioko at Lungi Airport, was to describe it as a 'lie-lie' newspaper that has sought times without number to demean me in the eyes of the public! I never spoke about their role in the APC let alone congratulated Cocorioko for its role in the just ended elections during which period he published unprintable LIES about me and my personal life. LIES, which I carefully ignored. I have bitten my tongue and placed my trust in God just as I have done all these years when Cocorioko released ceaseless lies against me to the public domain," Sylvia Blyden asserts.
If the Cocorioko Editor does not know it, THERE IS A GOD IN THIS WORLD and the Almighty's wrath, when he exercises it, against deserving people like the Cocorioko Editor, is a thing to be feared.
© Copyright by Awareness Times Newspaper in Freetown, Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Cocorioko's Publication
To: All
Date Posted: 18:49:53 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 196.44.99.114
Message:
The Editor of Cocorioko , Rev. Wilfred Leeroy Kabs-Kanu, certifies before the Almighty God, that everything written in this article is a complete and correct rendition of the report made to COCORIOKO by the CEO , Mr. Alex Mansaray . Mr. Mansaray asked that it be published. As he always does, the Editor asked Mr. Mansaray TWICE whether he should publish the article .Each time, Mr. Mansaray said "Oh , yes , go ahead. That was exactly what transpired .She even took pictures of us ". There are other aspects of the story that we did not publish because the Editor deemed it PRIVILEDGED CONVERSATION .
Until Alex Mansaray calls to say that we should remove it, we will not adhere to the threats by the AWARENESS TIMES . Miss Blyden should contact Mr. Mansaray , who was quoting her , not COCORIOKO. The Editor has known Alex Mansaray for years and he is not the type that will fabricate such a story. We , his friends, often taunt Alex that he is one man who does not "Crack his teeth" to say anything because he is not afraid of people. Alex always says it bluntly as it is, often even at his own detriment . The Editor consulted with Board Chairman before publishing this article and Foday Mansaray too gave the go-ahead.
AWARENESS TIMES PUBLISHER ACKNOWLEDGED COCORIOKO'S ROLE IN THE LAST ELECTIONS : SAYS CEO ALEX MANSARAY
The Chief Executive Officer of COCORIOKO , Mr. Alex Mansaray , said today that a most unlikely source acknowledged that Cocorioko did a good job during the just-ended Presidential Elections. The source is the AWARENESS TIMES PUBLISHER, DR. SYLVIA BLYDEN.
Mr. Mansaray made the statement while informing other executives of COCORIOKO that he has assured the Publisher of Awareness Times, Dr.Sylvia Blyden that the COCORIOKO newspaper does not have any vendetta against her or any citizen of the Republic of Sierra Leone .Mr. Mansaray said certain things however went wrong that should be resolved and set right
The two newspaper executives had a chance meeting at Lungi International Airport on Friday .Dr. Blyden was said to be on her way to Ghana and Mr. Alex Mansaray, who is also Proprietor of the Duty Free Shop at the airport, was in the company of the All People's Congress ( APC ) Secretary General , Mr. Victor Foh and party official, Mr. Bash Kamara at the VIP Lounge of the airport. Mr. Foh was travelling to Burkina Faso to attend that country's party celebrations.
Dr.Blyden moved over and greeted all of them and congratulated them for the recent APC victory. During their discussions later , Mr. Mansaray brought the topic of the three-year-old misunderstanding between the Awreness Times Publisher and Cocorioko Editor, Rev. Wilfred Kabs-Kanu and the matter of the spoofing of the Cocorioko Forum.
Dr. Blyden denied spoofing the COCORIOKO FORUM and said that the allegation was an attempt by the COCORIOKO Editor to besmear her,
Mr. Alex Mansaray then told the publisher that the Cocorioko Editor and the newspaper had no vendetta against her or any citizen of the Republic of Sierra Leone. The paper criticises people in the interest of the nation , not out of vendettas. .He said that the COCORIOKO Editor is a Minister of the gospel and has assured him many times that he has no evil intent towards the publisher. Mr. Foh agreed with Mr. Mansaray that the Editor was a "religious man" and a gentleman .Mr. Mansaray stated that something however went wrong and this has to be resolved and set right.
The Awareness Times Publisher too assured Mr. Mansaray that she had nothing against the Cocorioko Editor or his newspaper..
Dr.Blyden said that Cocorioko did a good job in the recent APC victory .She congratulated the paper's CEO for a job well done. in helping the APC win the election.
The Editor of Cocorioko and the paper's Board Chairman, Mr.Foday Mansaray , were briefed by Alex Mansaray about the chance meeting between him and and the Awareness Times Publisher, Dr.Sylvia Blyden at Lungi Airport
MEANWHILE, Mr. Alex Mansaray has called on APC supporters, especially those in the diaspora to be patient with the government .He said that the cabinet announced by the President , Mr.Ernest Koroma, truly reflected the APC and everybody will have access to the power structure .
Also , Mr. Foday Mansaray agreed with Alex Mansaray that "All of us " have to be patient with the new government under these difficult circumstances. The President, he said, had many problems when he looked at the list of qualified persons for positions.. SEE TOMORROW'S ISSUE FOR MORE OF FODAY MANSARAY'S STATEMENT. Web site designed & hosted by Leeroy Wilfred Kabs-Kanu © 2007 at Homestead™
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Man of Honor
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Date Posted: 10:46:51 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Ehmm, kabs-Kanu, I am sure you should know better. In america, you could be sued for Libel if Sylvia insists that she didnt make those statements. Just because your publisher/owner/CEO said so, does not imply that you have the right to publish something about somebody without first verifying/crosschecking with that individual.I would have first contacted Sylvia before going to press. Mind you, you, Alex etc are all part of cocorioko. Therefore, there is no independent individual to authnticate your assertions. I will suggest that you apologise to her or make a disclaimer. This is what a good journalist will do. Please dont ban me for disagreeing with you.
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Transmission Errors
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Date Posted: 19:03:58 10/14/07 ()
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Third Party Recounts can have transmission errors.
Subject: Re: Fake Article on Cocorioko about Awareness Times Publisher
From: Not always
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Date Posted: 19:24:39 10/14/07 ()
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If Sylvia praised Cocorioko's role, there is no transmission problem. You either praise or blame. Certain issues are nay or yay.
Subject: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: N'tara
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Date Posted: 18:38:31 10/14/07 ()
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A lot of failures can be attributed to Tejan Kabba for the past 11 years rule of Sierra Leone. That is fact and part of history. Nonetheless, nobody can take away from him the fact that he is one of African heads of state, who did not tinker with the constitution to keep himself in power. He could have done that some years back if he was planning to stay in power after his two terms, but didn't. Look at Sitka Steven, Yayah Jameh, Hugo Chavez, Robert M. of Zimbabwe and many more who tinkers with the constitution just to stay in power till their death.
If you don't have right atmosphere and infrastructure for democracy in the country, such election will never be conducted.
So deserve to be praised for that if nothing else. I think that he deserves to be praised for establishing NASSIST, NRA and may be NACSA.
I hope that the new government will improve these institutions and create new ones.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 22:42:28 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
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Kabbah had no way to tamper with the constitution nor extend his stay. Sierra Leone is a very conscious nation today. We eye done open.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 23:37:40 10/14/07 ()
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Response to your points:
1."That does not hide the fact that his government was extremely corrupt...”
Response: Nobody is objecting the corruption issue. We know that and a lot have been said about it. But he also deserves credit for not tinkering with the constitution to stay in power. Many other presidents have done it in the past and some are still doing it. Look at Lansana Conteh in Guinea. How long has he been president?
2. "NASSIT, NRA, NACSA what difference have these organizations made to the life of the average Sierra Leone apart from lining up the pockets of the various heads and their cronies.
Response: Yes some people are benefiting from it right now. Some citizens that have reached the age of retirement are receiving the benefit. Infact some people who never contributed to the fund are benefiting from it. Even parents of high level APC members have benefited and are still benefiting from it. I don't have to name names.
3. Even if Kabbah wanted to cling on to power Berewa would have prevented him from doing so.
Response: That is hard to believe. Let us give him credit that he did not try to do so at all. Many other leaders have done that and yet some are still doing it now and yet nothing is happening. Look at what Obasajo did to his VP and how the election went down in Nigeria. Let us talk about his short falls as well as his strength.
4. The man wanted power so bad that he could taste it...Babu Yie OH :-)
Response: What is your proof? Is that just your opinion?
5. Kabbah had no way to tamper with the constitution nor extend his stay.
Response: There are a lot of ways; he did not just try one because, he was not interested.
6. Sierra Leone is a very conscious nation today. We eye done open.
Response: I know that we are a conscious nation today. Yet still there are many more conscious nations where the leader are so much power conscious, that they are doing everything in their power to keep themselves in power. Kabba did not just try to do that. Give him that credit.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: David Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:40:42 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: saloneloudmouth@yahoo.com
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NRA is a total scam. When did you visit SL last. Ask me, I can tell you every day tale of NRA pocketing in millios of leones - with proof of names.
And who told you NASSIT pays retirement benefits. NAME JUST ONE PERSON. As per their law, the first set of pensioners will commence only from 2010. Yes Ex Pr. Kabbah used NASSIT to help and bale out his pal Sam King by asking NASSIT to take a share in his doomed hotel. He tried the same with DATATEL but Rokel Bank stopped it. Dont even try in the least to praise Kabbah or his government.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: Mohamed Fofana
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Date Posted: 01:01:36 10/16/07 ()
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Since 2003 I have been visiting Sierra Leone every year. I normally visit for 2 months (March and April) each year. The corruption is undeniable!!! And as someone who has planned to go back home in 2009 to resettle, I wasn’t happy overall. As a potential business man, I know the hurdles, red tapes, bureaucracies and corruptions one has to go through to establish a business. No help at all.
However, what I am pointing out is that these institutions have been created. A patriotic and visionary leader can improve these institutions and make them very productive for the benefit of the country.
The main point I stressed is that with all the corrupt practices, yet HE DID NOT TINKER WITH THE CONSTITUTIN TO KEEP HIMSELF IN POWER.
As for NASSIST, you will get the fact later. But I know that some people who are 60 years plus are receiving some benefit right now.
Subject: Re: Ex-President Alhaji Tejan Kabba
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 19:13:09 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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That does not hide the fact that his govenment was extremely corrupt.. NASSIT, NRA, NACSA what difference have these organisations made to the life of the average Sierra Leone apart from lining up the pockets of the various heads and their cronies. Even if Kabbah wanted to cling on to power Berewa would have prevented him from doing so. The man wanted power so bad that he could taste it...Babu Yie OH :-)
Besides the eyes of the world were on Kabbah so he could not have even dreamed of hanging on after his evident catastrophic failure.
Subject: Solo B CARELESS TALK NOR DAE PAY!!!!
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 15:40:50 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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For those of us who were present a couple of years ago when Solo B was addressing some members of the Sa. Leone community in London he wrecklessly uttered that those who were not prepared to go back to Sa. Leone would languish here; whilst completely ignoring protestations about the lack of electricty and running water. In a similar gathering in Ohio a young lady commented on the filthy state of Freetown and asked what the government was doing about it. Solo B's reply was 'WE ARE NOT CLEANERS' A very iresponsible reply from someone aspiring to be president. The moral of the story is that IF YOU HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO SAY; SAY NOTHING.
Subject: Jebbor Sherrington - Leone Stars Coach Sacked
From: freetong pikin
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Date Posted: 14:42:05 10/14/07 ()
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Sierra Leone coach John Jebbor Sherington and his entire technical staff have been relieved of their duties with immediate effect.
The sackings came two days after the Leone Stars lost to Benin in their final Nations Cup qualifying match on Friday.
Read more
http://www.salonepeople.com/
Subject: Re: Jebbor Sherrington - Leone Stars Coach Sacked
From: GEORGE S. WILSON
To: All
Date Posted: 08:12:58 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: samtheman1957@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-166-138-63.washdc.east.verizon.net at 71.166.138.63
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I wellcome the new minister of sports,DR,MINKAILU BAH.I have been praying that we know who will be our next sports minister,because of that south africa worldcup qualifying matches.SIERRA LEONE can make it to SOUTH AFRICA if the new bomber can work with good men and women.MR.MINISTER,IF YOU CAN TAKE SIERRA LEONE TO SOUTH AFRICA,YOU WILL GO DOWN IN THE GOOD BOOK OF ALL SIERRA LEONEANS.
Subject: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Nar Me
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:58 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: the newsletter@hotmail.com
Entered From: amontsouris-152-1-27-15.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr at 82.123.93.15
Message:
"Mr. Corruption" is definitely the killer.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 22:48:50 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-67-173-165-221.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 67.173.165.221
Message:
Tejan Kabbah and Co; for the execution of Kullah Samba, Max Kanga and all those who were merely required by thier station of duty to serve a military government that kicked him out.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Salone Boy
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Date Posted: 15:15:01 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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TEJAN KABBAH for grossly letting the people of Sierra Leone down. For ignoring widespread corruption in his government and neglecting the needy citizens of the country. If he has any conscience he will have the decency to beg the people for forgiveness.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: DEMOCRAT
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Date Posted: 18:07:03 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Tejan Kabbah has been named by the APC "SIerra Leone's father of democracy". A man who has retired twice. Once from the United Nations as UNDP's Director of Management Services with a very fat pension for life and just recently as a rare breed of Sierra Leone's democratically elected president for two terms.
Those who the Almighty Himself has blessed no mortal can pull down. Kabbah is now part of Sierra Leone's history. If e hart u, go drink gbamgba!
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 20:32:46 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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Lets be very mature about this my friend; I could care less about how many times he has retired; that still does not hide the fact that he let the country down through poor management and thats why the people have spoken and booted him and his cronies out. And if you think its over you wait till the special court lay their hands on him we would see if he has indeed been blessed by the Almighty.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: DEMOCRAT
To: All
Date Posted: 17:56:38 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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Tejan Kabbah was not booted out. He successfully served two terms as president. Berewa just didn't click as there was need for generational change and the APC implemented a better campaign strategy.
When George Bush Snr lost to Bill Clinton that wasn't Reagan that got booted by Americans or Al Gore's losing to President Bush meant a 'kita' for Clinton. No!
Your wish to see Kabbah face the Special Court is another fairy tale. The court has already indicted those it believes bear the greatest responsibility for crimes commited during the rebel war. Kabbah was not among that class and there is certainly no indication that the court will open any new indictments. In fact it cannot under the circumstance and this makes your wish for Kabbah a mirage.
Let's get this straight: leaders don't get everything right. Reagan did not, Margaret Thatcher didn't, not even Bill Clinton did, and of course Kwame Nkrumah certainly did not get everything right. Sometimes they achieve, on other issues they don't. Kabbah made a huge success by ending a war he had inherited and brought about peace to Sierra Leone after a decade of cataclysmic and horrendous fighting among sierra Leoneans. Tell me he did not succeed on that score! When he came to power by 1996 government was neither visible nor present in much of the country. During his tenure government became present everywhere in the country.
At the time he came to power the situation in sierra leone was in such an abysmal state that efforts to lift it can only be appreciated if you understood from what depths the country had emerged.
The manner in which the just-ended elections was managed is due not to any other person's ability but due largely to the kind of political climate cultivated by Kabbah's leadership. In modern day african political context Kabbah came way before his time. He is examplary.
About the lives of politicians and how they get assessed and evaluated, this is deja vu. All politicians ( I mean political leaders of Kabbah's stature) end in failure. But it is the difference they make in the lives of the people they lead that matters. Tell me that Kabbah made no difference in the lives of Sierra Leoneans during his tenure.
Subject: Re: WHO IS THE VILLAIN OF THE YEAR IN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 20:17:31 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
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Kabbah by no means ended the war. Tony Blair ended the war in Sa. Leone; if not for his intervention I would hate to think what would have become of our beloved nation. I know Kabbah would like to take credit for ending the war and one day he will wake up and realise he is dreaming. If the likes of Late Hinga Norman were not determined enough Kabbah would have stayed in Guinea and not bothered to come back.
In terms of Kabbah making a difference in the lives of the ones he led you only have to poll 10 random people on the streets of Freetown and if you are honest enough if I challenge you to publish the results on this forum.
Subject: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 13:14:33 10/14/07 ()
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My fellow compatriots, I am comming to you from Sierra Leone, the home base.
I have been here since last thursday observing Sierra Leone and checking out important personalities in the APC government. Part of my reason for comming here is to be present at the start of things and to associate with the right personalities so that when I retire in one and half years and finaly return home it would generally be a smooth sailing for me.
I was also looking at the prospect of serving in the new government but was late to arrive. Any way, I met one on one with the President and have pictures for verification. I informed him that if he needs me I will cut short my stay and return home expeditously.
He gave me his word and that is all I need.
Serving as a Minister is not the only way to serve Sierra Leone. I will offer my service to the government at any time in what ever capacity as long as it is ready and genuinely committed to positive development.
I believe that the government of Sierra Leone under his excellency Ernest Koroma is committed and it has been quick to show signs as such.
I was present at Alpha Khans office when he escorted delegates back to lungi who together with the President inspected Sierra Leone's electrical equipments.
The President means business and he is waisting no time to implement major aspects of his plan including the provision of adequate electric supply.
It is no brainer to conclude that the standard of living and social conditions would be tremendously helped when good electric supply is available in the country.
The President would win even the hearts and minds of diehard SLPP supporters when he would have accomplished his plans.
The mood is excellent in Freetown and business is booming as usual.
I am on an observer mission and exploring the business environment. You do not need a lot of money here to do business. But you need discipline and some knowledge of record keeping and of course locat1on is key.
For those of you planning to do business in Sierra Leone this is the right time to come. When we would have had good electric supply the cost of doing business would be lower. Instead of generators and huge expenditures on gasoline we would have monthly electric bills at far lower cost.
Sierra Leoneans are survivalists. Everywhere you go you will find businesses of some sort. There are carpenters making furnitures including living room sets and china cabinets, welders and traders all over. They use labor intensive methods and crude instruments to do their job.
But the City in general is one hub of a mess and it is overpopulated.
It is hoped that with electricity provided by Bumbuna Power station in the future and a succesful agricultural development scheme migrants would find it attractive to return home.
I have just conpleted an artricle titled 'STRATEGIC DECISION MAKING AND TYPYA BUDGETING FOR INNOVATION IN AGRICULTURE'. I will publish it in two parts on 'We Yone Press' starting tommorrow. This is one of my contribution to the government. I am responding to Ernest Koroma's call for ideas.
You too can make a difference if you want. This is the time for all Sierra Leoneans to come together and pull together resources for positive development.
Dont be a nobody. Participate in nation building in what ever way you can and you or your children will surely reap the benefit.
God bless.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 13:51:24 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Alie Formeh,
You have a fan in me. Your honesty is really a blast of fresh air. While some people will lie about seeking a job, you do not beat about the bush or resort to subterfuge. You state your true intentions, because you only have altruistism in your heart for your country. May you be called upon to render your service to country either in govt or business.
Pray tell the Prez and his inner circle, that they can help clean the filth in Freetown by employing the many unemployed youths milling aroumd Freetown to clean up the garbage and gutters. That act alone will ensure a cleaner city and a cash-happy youth in time for Christmas.
We are glad that the President is already clapping on the electricity business. Keep up the good work in informing us.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 15:49:13 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Mammy Blessings , As I told you yesterday , before ALI Formeh's honest assessment. If you visit Sierra Leone, you will see that business is booming. The shops are full with goods. This has to do with the positive climate created by the former SLPP. Prosperity would trickle down to the poor masses from the entrepreneurs.
The govt is not going to solve the nation's problems solely. All they can do is to create a conducive society in which individuals can release their talents without fear of repression. Just look at the development the Sierra Leone music industry over the past five years.
I hope the APC/PMDC can allow democracy and a positive business environment. Unfortunately most of the people in diaspora criticising SLPP had not been to Sierra Leone in a while to see the changes that took place.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 17:13:29 10/14/07 ()
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I'm obviously not going to question your strong support for SLPP, but I would say your opinion on booming business due to SLPP positive climate they created.
My friend, I travelled to Sierra Leone twice every year to start with and no the business culture have always been there it was never the work of your incompetent SLPP. Can you remember during the peaceful days? when there was business boom, it was evident everywhere you go in Sierra Leone that business was the sole biggest employer of the average Sierra Leonean.
Most of your assessments and others were limited only in the capital Freetown.
I wish during the time before the war you were priviledged to visit the provincial cities so you could have being the judge to this that during the past ten years, business slowed down.
The booming business you're seeing now is only limited in the capital.
So cut that crap of SLPP creating a climate for business.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 20:48:25 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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you are right, the comments are based on my visit to Freetown in July and unfortunately I did not get the chance to go the provinces. I know you hate to give SLPP any credit but it was under their watch that peace was obtained. This fragile peace has allowed businesspeople to invest, mainly foreigners and foreign based Sierra Leoneans.Finally under their watch there was a democratically held election in which the opposition won both houses. This only augurs well for potential investment in Sierra Leone.
Hate them or not under SLPP peace was acheived and democracy maintained. It's up to APC to continue the good work.
Sierra Leoneans are entrepreneurs but the govt has to create a fertile environment in which sierra leonean entrepreneurs can flourish.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:02:34 10/15/07 ()
Email Address:
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It's true I hate to give SLPP credit that's because they badly betrayed my trust and the peace we are enjoying today was achieved during the SLPP rule. But the you'll agree with me now or later that peace was already due after the rebels and the breakaway SLA realised that the west is strongly opposed to their inhumane tactics and that there was no prospect for them to assume power, then they decided to accept the offer of a peace deal with government.
So the peace could have been achieved by any government at that time. It's not a miracle work by the SLPP.
In the issue of free and fair elections, well you know what, they had no choice but to allow this decision to take place. After their their disgraceful handling of the country with no care or respect for the people they know any attempt to stop changes taking place could spell untold desaster knowing that they've being hated by the masses.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 13:48:03 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Thank you AFK:
I was signing off to head to church when I saw your inspirational posting.
I will surely have you, the President and our people back home in my prayers.
I wish there were more postings like yours on the forum. Don't know if you are a member or supporter of any party, but it is clear that you put country above party affiliation. I happen to support the Opposition party, but consider Ernest Koroma my President and his government my government. I would even serve(as you hoped to do) this government because by doing so I would be contributing in some way to the welfare of my country.
Let this serve as an appeal to all of us on this forum to put partisanship aside and strive to do whatever we can to help the government succeed in its national agenda. If the government so succeeds we all profit because our individual and collective interests are inextricably linked to the nation.
Subject: Re: Visiting Sierra Leone
From: Sanfa
To: All
Date Posted: 15:50:49 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alie is a supporter and in fact the son of an ex-APC minister in the 70's, Late Formeh Kamara minister of labour. I admired him for his honesty.
Subject: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: Borbor- Leon
To: All
Date Posted: 11:42:29 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: s.l.bangs@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac27dee.bb.sky.com at 90.194.125.238
Message:
Haven lived and worked in most parts of Sierra Leone and in few countries in the diaspora, I always find it challenging to get my head round the assumption that- are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough? Knowledge gained from my experience and discussions held with various individuals have still fall short to provide me with the answer to this conspiracy.
The following are my assumptions-------
We've got problems with identity- we like to re- create ourselves to somebody or something else. Majority of Sierra Leoneans have been misled or brain washed by the few educated and previleged class.
Most Sierra Leoneans are selfish and greedy.
It has to do with our culture- paternalism, nepotism etc.
Sierra Leoneans prefer to work with individuals from other nationalities than his/ her country person- this assumption has been proven by many individuals I have spoken to in both Sierra Leone and in the diaspora.
What do you think? Is this assumption right or wrong?
Subject: Re: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 13:05:45 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Your first assumption captures the problem: Sierra Leoneans do not have a sufficiently strong sense of national idenity. Many of our problems-- some of which you list (both collecive and individual) flow from this anomaly.
In a nutshell, Sierra Leone has yet to evolve into a viable "national society". The good thing, there are clear resons why, so the solutions are not impossible to find. (I have read ahead, and Alieu Iscandri has come up with a few that address this issue). The key is not only the necessary political will, but the loyalty of the political elite and active participation of the people in what I will refere to as "building the nation".
Thanks for your views; they are on target.
Subject: Re: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 12:59:20 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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This is a subject I have grappled with for years. First off, I believe that Sierra Leoneans are incredibly patriotic, fiercely proud of their country and of their national heritage. Most Sierra Leoneans I know identify as Sierra Leoneans first, before their specific tribe. That being said, there are a number of factors that would make us appear unpatriotic. I will try to tackle them one at a time:
(a) Hospitality Culture - Most of our indegenous cultures put a high premium on welcoming "strangers". In my many visits to the provinces, I found this trait across all regions, sometimes to the point of embarrassment where people would give up the choiciest pieces of meat, palm-wine, even their own beds for the visitor. And back then, it was done with no expectation of a reward. It was just how people believed a visitor should be treated. In our mordern world, this deference to "strangers/visitors" has translated to how we treat "foreigners".
(b) Indegenous leadership culture - Our indegenous system of government gave absolute power to the chiefs and their families. In some cultures, the chief was a almost at par with the deity. Not unlike England, power was heriditary and absolute. With no revolutionary change in representation prior to colonial rule, the new colonial masters were simply regarded as "white" chiefs with absolute power and commanding the respect and homage of the masses. I will come back to how this impacted our sense of patriotism further in this analysis.
(c) Colonialism and missionaries - Enough has been said about the European colonial policy of divide and rule. It was not unique to Sierra Leone and its effects are still being felt all over Africa in senseless civil wars derived from forcing people to live within national boundaries drawn in Europe. A more subtle effect was the influence of the missionaries who made it their business to give young children so-called "christian" names, to replace their indegenous african names for reasons I still fail to comprehend. To this day, visa and passport application forms in Sierra Leone still ask for a "christian" name. The point here is that those with "christian" names began to achieve a higher status in the communities because they were perceived to be closer to God and the missionaries.
(d) Colonial administration and the influence of the krios - One of the factors that compounded the effects of colonialism in Sierra Leone was the resettlement of freed slaves in Freetown. As colonial rule began to fall out of favor in the mid 1930's the British colonial administrators had a ready made cadre of africans to hand over government responsibilities to. The krios were considered by the Brits to be "our guys" in Sierra Leone and indeed krios were sent to Gambia, Ghana and Nigeria as administrators. The masses viewed the krios as being interchangeable with the white leadership class (especially with their english names, mode of dress, and relative prosperity)and therefore deserving of the respect typically accorded to chiefs. Again, what we see happening here is the elevation of non-indegenes above indegenes reinforcing the image that a stranger/foreigner provides better quality leadership. That the krios subsequently squandered and abused this relationship is a whole other story.
(e) The nationalization/indegenization of Sierra Leone political landscape - Post colonization, the white men had gone, their krio proteges had been marginalized, and the indegenes were in power. Neither the governors, nor the governed could distinguish between a functional democracy and a traditional fiefdom. All praise and honor went to the president (beginning with Siaka Stevens). He was, essentially, the Queen of England. His portrait appeared everywhere, bank notes, coins, stamps, you name it. The machiavellian Stevens exploited tribal sentiment to the fullest. In addition to this, sub-standard work performance began to be tolerated in the civil service and crept into the private sector. The Brits had absolute authority, and no tribal affiliations. They hired and fired based on competence. The indegenes could not or would not exercise such independence. In any case, the "chief" needed to take care of his "subjects". Instead of giving them a goat or chicken, he could give them a job in the civil service. And if they misbehaved and he was forced to take disciplinary action, a legion of family members would come and beg for forgiveness. The slow slide into non-accountability had begun. So it happened that the hopes of the unconnected/unaffiliated masses were dashed, because even though "we" were in charge, we were worse of than under the terrible Brits and thier krio district officers! So once again, foreigners started looking a lot more attractive than our compatriots.
(f) Economic ruin and the rise of the JC's - Well, we all know what happened in post-1980 Sierra Leone after the OAU. Unprecedented economic hardship completely eroded the middle class and morale of the nation. Everyone below the age of 25 wanted to get out as fast as possible and never return. There was no hope or future in remaining in Sierra Leone. The few that got out, wrote back letter telling stories of faraway lands flowing with milk and honey. They visited at Christmas showing off everyday items that were now luxuries in Sierra Leone. Some even came back with foreign accents that solidified the belief that anything local was inferior. Having travelled abroad was now considered to be a qualification, irrespective of what, if anythng, was actually achieved while abroad.
To some up my longest posting ever - all of these factors have created a perception in 2007 Sierra Leone that non-Sierra Leoneans run things better and are more trustworthy than our kith and kin.
Subject: Re: Are Sierra Leoneans patriotic enough??
From: Fen Plaba!
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Date Posted: 12:40:17 10/14/07 ()
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All your assumptions can be applied to most other nationals. It is hardly a unique predisposition of Sierra Leoneans. The more economically distressed a country is, the more likely some of its citizens will be less enthusiastic about it. However, some of us will never be ashamed of our beautiful Salone. We will always work to make it better until we die, when we hope our bones will be laid to rest in the land of our ancestors.
Subject: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
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Date Posted: 11:28:19 10/14/07 ()
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I woke up this morning only to read on Cocorioko that my long-term musical star, Dr. Oloh has passed away into the land of our silent ones. As recently as last evening, I was playing Dr. Oloh's music to assuage my anxieties after running into a traffic jam that barely crawled. The authenticity in Dr. Oloh's music is as ever-green as it is Sierra Leonean. He sang in his native Krio tongue, and never sought to "modernize" {imitate?} Western musical tones with an English diction. Whenever he peppered his songs with English, Sierra Leonean themes and history could heard without doubt. Take the following words, for example:
"...boys and gals dem laf me den say I am a drunkard. Thank God I am a free born and Freetown is my colony. Everywhere I go sweety palmwine dae wait for me."
More admirable, Dr. Oloh's music was able to cross tribal lines with a stylish use of talent.
His music was well known for the Temne teaching in which he urged every young man to move on whenever a girl friend shows signs of jadedness. The last part of that Temne lesson ran thus.
"...komor konneh. Orlum or ti-dayrr". This roughly translates "make E go. Other wan go kam."
There is simply not enough space to appreciate this musical hero. Dr. Oloh has gone to join the ranks of nationalists like Bai Bureh, Sir Milton Margai and every deceased Sierra Leonean admired by this writer. Since he spoke Temne for musical purposes, "I Love You" from me to Dr. Oloh will be in Temne.
E botirr mu, Dr Oloh.
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: Gongoli
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Date Posted: 04:17:18 10/15/07 ()
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I was quite saddened to read about the untimely death of one of Siera Leones greatest musicians. Dr Oloh was a down-to-earth individual with a lot of charisma. He is one of the originals and I equate him with other top class Sierra Leone musicians like Salia Koroma, Calender, Pa Wilson, S E Rogie to name a few.
I also hope we can keep the music of these truly exemplary Sierra Leoneans alive by keeping an archive of their works. I have found it almost impossible to get any of Salia's music on tape or CD, and this would be a great loss if their music fades into the wind.
I wish to extend my deepest sympathy to his family and the rest of Sierra leone.
May his Soul Rest In Peace
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 17:36:11 10/14/07 ()
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May his soul rest in perfect peace!
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 12:16:50 10/14/07 ()
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What a touching tribute to Dr Oloh, Bra Enviable.
I know the great man is in the pantheon of Sierra Leonean Greats, making Heaven a little more joyous today. May God continue to favor him.
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 11:54:44 10/14/07 ()
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No doubt a legend in his own time! Just out of curiosity, id Dr Oloh create goombay music? I do not know of any other goombay artist.
Subject: Re: THIS IS A SAD DAY IN SIERRA LEONEAN FOLKLORE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 12:31:52 10/14/07 ()
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KKW, That is a very good question. Being a child of the late 1960s, I do not have an authoritative answer to that question. However, Dr. Oloh, the man full of hints like "tap to me nor to married," and "Born pikin nor to married," was a legend in his own way.
I am actaully listening to him as I type this piece. Every African-American woman I have dated in this country knows about Dr. Oloh. I simply play his music with sickening frequency.
RIP, Dr. Oloh.
Subject: for Rev Kabs kanu
From: Pa Sorie
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Date Posted: 09:46:29 10/14/07 ()
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hey Rev. Will it possible to have a brief biographical info on the nominated ministers? thanks and have a blessed weekend.
Subject: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 08:54:47 10/14/07 ()
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After having thought about this long and hard, I have come to form an opinion about a possible solution to the FGM impassee. My solution is simple:
Every parent who has a child he/she wants to go through the procedure, should watch with that child, the documentary on the procedure by Dr. Olayinka Koso Thomas. After the review of the documentary, all participants would have to further undergo a therapy session on the merits and demerits of the surgery. This should be done at the Ministry of Health, either in Freetown or elswhere in the provinces. It should also be mandatory.
Secondly, every would be initiatee would have to sign a consent to surgery document after watching the documentary.Any consent signed by the initiatee must be countersigned by their parents, and any such consent to be valid must not have been obtained under duress of the proposed initiatee. Any consent obtained under duress is invalid. Any person who obtains any such consent under duress would be held criminally liable for practicing medecine without a license and be subject to penal as well as pecuniary sanctions.
No person under the age of consent (which in sierra leone is believe is 14), should be circumcised, with criminal sanctions for violations. The consent to surgery is a contract and therefore anyone who cannot be legally bound to a contract, or in the alternative whose contract may be legally voidable, cannot give such consent.
Further the government should also legislate that ONLY qualified medical doctors should be allowed to conduct the procedures and any violations of that law be sanctioned by imprisonment. (Now lets see them break their hippocratic oath)
The main purpose of this solution is that if we demystify the procedure and take it out of the realm of the "secret" society culture and make it an open medical issue, then people would become more aware of its ills.
Finally the government MUST charge a tax of 300,000 leones per initiatee and a waiting period of 9 months for an application process. All fees collected should then be ploughed in to a reeducation campaign.
SO WHATS YOUR TAKE ON THIS PRESSING ISSUE.
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
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Date Posted: 17:14:16 10/14/07 ()
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Just because Dr.olayinka Koso Thomas happens to be Sierra Leone's first sophisticated ABORTIONIST,I think that she certainly lacks moral credibility on the issue of Female Genital Mutilation.
Dr. Thomas is reknowned for KILLING Fetuses just as how Bundu Women are reknowned for Mutilating Living Girls.
Considering the complicity of her practice, I think that most Sierra Leoneans would rather choose LIFE OVER DEATH.
On the question of MORALITY and HUMAN RIGHTS also, Most Sierra Leoneans would neither support Abortion nor FGM.
Therefore I think that Anti FGM proponents like yourself should better reference your arguments on work produced by people not as questionable as Dr Olayinka Koso Thomas.
Nar Dr. Koso Thomas fos begin perform abortion wit machine pan woman dem nar salone en most of im patient dem nor able born again....
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 18:38:39 10/14/07 ()
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You may be right about the facts as you have stated them here, however I fail to see th relevance of your argument that because she as a mendical doctor performed abortions, she is therefore not a positive reference point on the issue of FGM.Furthermore, I do believe that the thrust of your argument is a non sequitur and it is dismissed intoto as not being relevant to the issue being discussed.
Sorry.
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 11:34:42 10/14/07 ()
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Kabor. The "death penalty" thing was a trick to bring you back to the forum. Oosai u wan go? U sef. U pass mark. The more Agbas on dee forum, the merrier.
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: babbob
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Date Posted: 11:13:17 10/14/07 ()
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Bondo is supposed to be a Secret Womens' Society.
What is done in any Secret society should be left there.
If the women want to change what they practice in their secret societies, then let it be decided and done alone by women of the tribes that practice it.
Bra M.A Iscandri, I don't know you but I somehow have respect for you. Can you imagine if everyone start exposing all what are done in our various SECRET Societies. Ojeh comes to mind. You won't be happy.
Let the women dictate what is done in their SECRET societies. We Men have NO BUSINESS in discussing what's done in a WOMEN's SECRET Society. As far as I know or aware about, I have never heard women discussing about rituals done in Exclusively MALE SECRET Societies.
Let the women deal with their stuff. That's what our Traditional customs call for.
In fact, some of the women are to blame for all these discussions. Female Secret Societies were normally entered into in tribal settings in the provinces where everyone knows and understands the customs. Once they started doing it in Freetown where there exists a melting pot of different cultures, then all hell started with hair-raising stories.
MY Appeal To ALL INDIGENOUS TRIBAL WOMEN who undergo their customary rites, IS TO PLEASE GO BACK TO THE PROVINCES IN YOUR USUAL TRIBAL SETTINGS and perform your rites of passage. FREETOWN is Cosmopolitan and it is not the right place to do such. If the educated ones who had undergone the processes done in the WOMEN's SECRET society want to do modifications / improvement / amendments, then let them do that discussion (education) with the ELDERS within the confines of these SECRET socities.
These days, everyone wants to afix things to Human rights. Not everything that works in the west is supposed to work everywhere else. There's a reason why you have variety of people and cultures in the world. It seems Nature doesn't want us all to do the same things. The Aboriginal Cultures, The Native Indian Cultures, the chinese cultures are all different and distinct.
Are we all in Freetown aware of the rituals in crowning a Chief? Do we all know what goes on in these tribal chiefdom secret societies? Maybe we may start crying about human rights abuses when we hear them.
Would we like to breakup all our Tribal customs when we'll hear about them, since majority of what's done in the provinces seems to be violation of human rights according to western perspectives? Is Sierra Leone ready to breakup all its provincial traditional customary rites in order to fit the western perspective of human rights?
Why is it that, a babygirl would be taken to a medical center and have her ear pierced without any recourse? Is it not also human right for that baby girl to make that decision when she is over 18 and considered an adult?
Why is it that a babyboy is circumcised at such a tender age without any recourse? Is it not also human right for that baby boy to make that decision when he is over 18 and considered an adult?
By going into this, we erode most customs of the world.
Let the Tribes decide their customary rites!!!!!!
Subject: Re: FGM is a HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 09:50:31 10/14/07 ()
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I am opposed to FGM and will never allow my kids to go through the procedure. I come from a community where FGM is religion for the womenfolk. In a strange way, women look at FGM as an exercise of women's lib. It is women who are at the forefront for the preservation of this culture; they will exert a heavy political price from any politician who attempts to restrict the practice in any way. What makes the situation even more confused is that FGM is just one aspect of the training about various beneficial cultural aspects that young women are subjected.
If the country is really ready to stop FGM, all the political parties AND the paramount chiefs should agree on a common strategy, and embark on a massive education campaign about the medical and social problems of this problem, before enforcing restrictions or an outright ban..
FGM is a political bomb that can explode if handled crudely. Can you imagine a political party or a tribalistic chief telling his people that Party A or B wants to destroy Bondo as part of a grand strategy to eventually destroying the tribe? Very toxic, man.
Subject: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 08:25:40 10/14/07 ()
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Tribalism exists because of MISTRUST by one ribe for the other. The krios have suffered from tribalism more than any other tribe and in the same vein, have been not only victims but also perpetrators of tribalism just as any other.
I propose that this government and its educational ministry put together a program where students in JSS 1 (Form one for those of us who are "old school") should have a s a part of their curriculum, a choice to learn at least two sierra leonean languages from native speakers, prior to graduating into the SSS1 ( form 4 again for the old schoolers). Further a program should be designed to have students spend at least one summer program in a different tribal envionment and learn the culture of that environment and be able to communicate and thrive within that environment.
My reason for making this proposal is that when students learn about their cultural and language differences, then they learn to appreciate these differences and to RESPECT them. I was blessed to have experienced sierra leone from the perspective of all tribes and I must say that my appreciation for the beauty of my people does exist. I started my primary school career at RC school in YELE in the Gbonkolenken chiefdom and consider YELE my home. I spent my toddler years in BO. Went to school at schlenker in Port Loko. Lived in Kenema, visited Moyamba, Bo, Mongerie,makeni,sefadu, Tombodu,Kaima, Kania,Massingbe, the whole western area, Ro kontha, Ro bathebol, Kambia, Kabala, Kamakwei, Gbinti, marampa Masimera, matotoka, Magburaka, Kono, Taiama, Lived at Mile 91, visited Moyamba Junction, can show you where Gbonga Babay is on the map. I am very much from Foulah Town the greatest place in all of sierra leone. (My personal opinion).
My apreciation for the culturs of all of our people can only be summed up in one word RESPECT.
When Kwame Nkrumah became president of Ghana, he sought to create a Ghanian identity and this method he used. Today Ghanians consider them selves Ghanians rather than thier tribal afiliations.
If MY president should have a legacy, it must be one that will stand the test of time. Putting together a program where our future generations will recreate a new NATIONAL IDENTITY should be a high priority.
So whats your take?
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 10:14:14 10/14/07 ()
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Oremi Iscandri, Odowereh! Tribalism has become a problem in Sierra Leone simply because politicians believe that they can scrape political capital by exploiting it. Left to the ordinary people, the tribes get along just swell. The problem is that, it is the educated elite and the political class who exploit the issue especially during elections.
I like your ideas about educating our young ones about the importance of national identity. It does not mean that the tribe should be obliterated. It simply means that we can celebrate the tribe and still be passionate about the national thread that binds all of us in a common destiny.
By the way, Schlenker in Port Loko was my first job after I finished at FBC...Nice teachers college, very nice Lebanese ladies, but the PLACE TOO DRY AND GBENKA. Got paid three times in one year and had to skip town fast!
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Mohamed Yongawo
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Date Posted: 13:50:01 10/14/07 ()
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Mammy Blessing apart from your last sentence I could not have agreed with you more. Politics is what that brings out the tribe in people. We will get over it one day.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy
From: Democracy Now
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Date Posted: 15:34:32 10/14/07 ()
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Mamy Blessing, you are so right. Tribalism is a thing of the elite class in order for them to win political power. In terms of tribalism, the ordinary Sierra Leoneans are more tolerant than the elites. An elite always wants to know your second name to decide whether you should be a close friend or an opponent. Most graduates from the tertiary institutions in Sierra Leone graduate with tribalism and regionalism through student politics. Tribalism is hard to confront since the main agents of change are themselves the holders of it. The class room therefore, is not a role model.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Pa Sorie
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Date Posted: 09:40:15 10/14/07 ()
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Chief I support your points on the need to promote national unity and putting an end to the cankerworm that is tribalism, but if my memory serves me rights I think the position you are proposing is already in place, about school children studying one or two other languages. But I think intsead of starting it at JSS 1 why not start in primay school as these are the formative years in any child development.
Nice that you are back......
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Borbor- Leon
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Date Posted: 10:57:08 10/14/07 ()
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Iscandri, your opinion is very correct. We should be working toward establishing a Sierra Leone where every Sierra leonean thinks of themselves as Sierra Leoneans rather than thinking of themselves as separate entities that are determined by tribal affiliation,regionalism, social class, political memebership and religion. We need to promote the core values of nationhood- 'Sierra Leonness'.
Fortunately, there is framework incorporated in our school curriculum for indigenous languages to be taught in schools. Unfortunately, I'm not sure whether such framework had informed school practices in the past. As you're aware there are fundamental issues that had prevented such good initiative to created the intended outcome. Besides, I'll like to see such idea to be extended even further to include parents, community groups and society at large. Importantly, do we have the structure in place and the required resources that will ensure the promotion of such ideal. Or are we making unrealistic demands on our new president and government. I think most Sierra Leoneans are anxious to see positive results, which previous governments have denied us.
However, it is vital for the our new government and the people of Sierra Leone to establish a strong sense of Sierra Leonness- minimising tribal tensions in Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 13:16:28 10/14/07 ()
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I think it will be nice for kids to learn other indegenous SL languages, but does language = culture? I don't think so. Even though we speak several differentlanguages, we do apear to have very similar cultures. And I would venture to say that we have a certain respect for our cultures.
In any case, how do we choose which languages should be taught without alienting some kids? We talk about major ethnic groups being Mende, Temne, Limba and Krio, but what about the 12 or 13 other ethnic groups? Its a slippery slope.
I hate to say it, but strong national identities tend to be formed when a nation goes to WAR against another nation. Take Germany, Japan and the good old USA. Strong national identity, shameful history of waging war. Canada on the other hand is basically a pacifist nation, with no strong national Canadian identity. But it works.
Rather than focussing on language, I would suggest aomething simlar to a history/civics class that teaches different Sierra Leonean cultures. I would also encourage students with common heritages to showcase their heritage in plays or extra-curricular activities. But a mandatory indegenous language class? I think thats a bit too much.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: M. Alieu Iscandari esq
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Date Posted: 14:05:43 10/14/07 ()
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In any case, how do we choose which languages should be taught without alienting some kids? We talk about major ethnic groups being Mende, Temne, Limba and Krio, but what about the 12 or 13 other ethnic groups? Its a slippery slope.
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It is simple. Have the kids CHOOSE w2hich language they would like to speak and bring in native speakers of that language to teach a class once or twice a week. Examination on the languyages would be oral. The idea is to have a kid express himself in a language other than the language of their birth. This is a perfect segway into the idea of a mandatory "NATIONAL SERVICE" WHICH IS AN IDEA THAT IS BEING PRESENTED BY THE TRANSITIONAL TEAM for college students.
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I would suggest aomething simlar to a history/civics class that teaches different Sierra Leonean cultures. I would also encourage students with common heritages to showcase their heritage in plays or extra-curricular activities
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You suggestion is within the scope of possibilities. However your suggestion may not be enough to properly teach kids how to appreciate the other tribes cultures and mores. Encouraging students of Limba origin to stage a play in Limba, would be interesting however encouraging a child born to creole parents to PARTICIPATE in a play in limba would enhance that childs understanding of Limba much miore so than his or her passive incvolvement in beiung a member of the audience with no knowledge of what is being said.
I hope you get the picture. The Goal is to create an undersatnding of other language and tribal groups to ENHANCE our NATIONAL IDENTITY.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Bobor
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Date Posted: 23:57:36 10/14/07 ()
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Krio is not one of the MAJOR ETHNIC GROUP in Sierra Leone. Krio as an ethnic group in Sierra Leone is small, but the Krio Language is commonly spoken. That is the fact.
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 00:48:46 10/15/07 ()
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Good point except that you are looking at it from the point of view of numbers. In terms of the number of people that speak krio, it is a major of ethnic group if not the most major ethnic group in sierra leone. Therefore I ask that you pardon this small mistake because it helped me make my point.
stay blessed
Subject: Re: Ending Tribalism in Sierra Leone (This presidents legacy)
From: Olu Beckley
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Date Posted: 15:48:37 10/14/07 ()
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Allieu’s point of incorporating local language education in our schools makes sense. The idea of having a National Youth Corps Service is also another way of introducing our youth to the cultural variations within our society and developing that sense of national identity. It is working well for Nigeria and can work for us too.
I am blessed to have had people like Mamy Mary at the St. Patrick’s School Bonthe; Teacher Gbondo of the RC School Kabala; Headmaster Turay of the RC school Port Loko who impacted and shaped my world and I can truly say my I am a better person because of their influence. My knowledge of Sierra Leone and the variety it presents comes from the opportunities I had to live and school in Freetown; Port Loko; Kabala; Musaia; Magburaka; Torma Bum; Bonthe and Makeni; said mass every other Sunday in Mokanji; Mongere; Gondama, Gendema and Gbap; spent holidays in Mattru Jong; Solon; Bendu Cha; Sulima; Gbondapi; Mamboma; Yengema; Bo; Sefadu; Kenema; Kono; Moyamba; Kambia; Mange Bureh and Tonko Limba. Gone are the days when people take pride in saying "ar nor ever cross waterloo"or look down on others saying "nar upline ee comot"
I am a Sierra Leonean first and foremost and then a creole/temne/fula later. I’d like to add that we need to put into place a system that ensures an even distribution of the country’s resources; providing equal opportunities for all, irrespective of where you find yourself. A child in Torma Bum in or Musaia in the Koinandugu District should have the same quality opportunities of achieving his potentials as the child in Freetown.
Subject: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: news
To: All
Date Posted: 05:35:28 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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The statement below is a misrepresentation of one of Sierra Leone's finest military officers. I want to make it categorically clear that Palo Conteh was not in Sierra Leone when the NPRC overthrown the APC.
He left early in 1986 when he recognised that Momoh was straying away from the path of a "New Order.
Those of us who have worked closely with Rtd. Palo Conteh will proudly say he is a Man og integrity and honesty.
Retired Major Palor Conteh (A Northerner) is so far the only nominated Deputy Minister that has been named. He is to be the Deputy Minister of Defence. He is a nephew and former Military Aide to the late former APC President Joseph Saidu Momoh. He used to reside with the Momohs in their Spur Road residence and he went into exile when the APC was overthrown by the NPRC in April 1992 and has spent a considerable amount of time since then living in the United Kingdom.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - Yes, BUT...
From: Reporter
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Date Posted: 14:02:16 10/14/07 ()
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Yes. I have known Palor personally for many years. He is quite polished -- I always thought he would have made a good diplomat if he had not entered the military. I wasn't surprised when he left for the UK to study law.
But do we really need a Deputy Minister of Defence? I would have EBK could find a more pro-active use for Palor's obvious talents.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: Why O Why
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Date Posted: 09:44:21 10/14/07 ()
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Additionally rtd Major AP Conteh also acted as ADC to Late President Stevens before he left Sierra Leone.
Unlike appointed Brigadiers like Bio and others this Major was a CARREER OFFICER
Unlike previous mediocre appointments to defence,this officer is also a LAWYER.
Above all this humble officer was so popular with the rank and file that he was nicknamed "HOW ARE YOU"
Maybe these facts will help calibrate the inanity of the PHD (Pull Him Down) detractors.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: Bugsyb
To: All
Date Posted: 07:20:22 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: aburneynic@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: accb8a38.ipt.aol.com at 172.203.138.56
Message:
I thought EBK had shown Political maturity to appoint a Minister of Defence, in light of what has happened in our Country in the recent past an important Ministry like Defence needs it's own full blown Cabinet level Minister. For the record I know the nominee Palo Conteh and always found him to be the epitome of an Officer and a Gentleman.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: Dr. S.M.Turay
To: All
Date Posted: 05:56:32 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: Sm1turay@aol.com
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I can testify that Retd. Maj. Palo Conteh is one of the most competent sierra leoneans to occupy the post of dep. Defence Minister. He is a man of high integrity and honesty, cool and calculated. One of the best decisions taken by the President.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh
From: KABS KANU
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Date Posted: 07:32:55 10/14/07 ()
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Message:
I agree.I knew Parlor since he was a studentand he is a good friend of my brother's.Met him personally when he and his brother came on a visit and stayed with my brother in NJ ( During Momoh's reign ). HE IS A FINE GENTLEMAN AND INTERESTINGLY, HE HAD LEFT SIERRA lEONE long before even Momoh was overthrown . He is also said to be a fine soldier and therefore he deserves his new post.
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - For Kabs Kanu
From: Riverbend
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Date Posted: 08:51:02 10/14/07 ()
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Bo Kabs,
we dont expect you to say anything different. Since the inception of APC II, you have been bizzy praisesinging. So far, you have seen nothing wrong in anything they have done. I see no difference between your "webspace' and statehouse webpage. Your astute desire to take over Sylvia Blyden;s position as Senior Government Praise singer has dramatically lend your "paper" unreadworthy. I honestly expected much. I thought your critical position on SLPP was in the name of good governance, but your blatant and embedded nonsense that have been spewed since the APC II era speaks volume of your evil ploy. I know you want you want to be recognized as the official paper of APC II, but dont you think its too early to start propaganda? We have not even done anything yet, and you have already started calling us " a new dawn".
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - For Kabs Kanu
From: Fen Plaba
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Date Posted: 09:08:17 10/14/07 ()
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Get over the SLPP loss, Riverbend. Sour grapes will only sour your soul. Go out, play and enjoy the sunshine of the new dawn. Cussing Kabs will not resuscitate the ghost of Berewapi! Sit in your little corner and wait till 2012 and give the SLPP flag to a sober individual, who will make your party more competitive. Meanwhile, take those lemons the electorate tossed you in the last elections and squeeze lemonade from them. Contribute positively to your country's progress!
Subject: Re: Distorted fact of rtd, Major P. Conteh - For Kabs Kanu
From: Soja
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Date Posted: 09:29:17 10/14/07 ()
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SLPP will not get over it easily.Their defeat hurt them real bad.Some of them are still not eating.Some have sleep apnea and other problems. All the tribalism, all the nepotism, everything gone, swept away by Kabs Kanu's pen and people's power.They will cuss at Kabs for the rest of their lives, making Kabs the most popular Sierra Leonean.
Subject: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 05:31:15 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
Please make your pick with valid reasons. I will provide a complete analysis later but first let me see what you positive and patriotic guys think.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 10:54:14 10/14/07 ()
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BEREWA! For accepting a very controversial result.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 15:51:05 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Believe me or not, I've always thought that alieu sesay as a very dangerous man (political time bomb) when it comes to power and power alone is he interested in and not a better country.
Counting on all his contributions, this guy love any opinion that is politically incorrect or controversial. I'm not trying to say he's not entitled to his opinion, but you if have enough time go through his past postings which are to do with political debating you'll see what I'm talking about.
Talking of ACCEPTING CONTROLVERSIAL RESULTS, can you please explain what should Berewa had done instead of accepting the past elections results.
This is the same guy who's preaching about the current cabinet being a regionally based. It's an attempt to draw attention from other potential tribalist to create scene of seggregation.
Becareful my brother.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 17:28:51 10/14/07 ()
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Edmond! I draw attention to issues people tend to avoid because,like you rightly said, they are controversial and politically incorrect.
I give credit where credit is due, i attck when i see a potential problem, and i stay away, where i lack any knowledge or information.
I remain a Nationalist and above all a sierra leonean...
My school mate- Lionel Akpabie a togolese student leader in EXILE calls me a weapon salone should use.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 09:55:09 10/14/07 ()
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Ex president Tejan Kabbah. For all his faults, he did not make any attempt to tinker with the constitution and perpetuate himself in power.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 13:44:31 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
Former President Kabba would never have tried that, too dangerous for him to try it. He would have been forceably removed by people's power. He knew that. So that is not a credit to him.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Nar Me
To: All
Date Posted: 13:49:37 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: the Newsletter@hotmail.com
Entered From: amontsouris-152-1-27-15.w82-123.abo.wanadoo.fr at 82.123.93.15
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Christiana Thorpe gets my vote for Sierra Leonean of the year.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Salone Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 06:54:48 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: saloneboy@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: 5ac57384.bb.sky.com at 90.197.115.132
Message:
Charles Margai for his decision to merge with APC to save the people of Sierra Leone from another 5 years of poltical genocide. The man was bold enough to see beyond traditional tribal lines and make a decision that could have cost him his life. Lets face it PMDC votes did make an impact on the outcome of the election. Thats why Charles Margai gets my vote!!!
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 08:44:07 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
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I absolutely agree with you. We have had several politicians in the past who claimed to be leaders, formed their own political parties, but made no impact at all and paled out of existence.
Charles Margai is the only one able to set up a new party, won 10 seats in less than two years under tremendous obstacles and succeeded in changing the political landscape of Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Capt Yamao Khati
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Date Posted: 14:04:37 10/14/07 ()
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Message:
Margai has my vote.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Med Conteh
To: All
Date Posted: 11:24:16 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: medconteh2005@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: at 89.241.145.222
Message:
I will go for Charles Margai
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Bugsyb
To: All
Date Posted: 07:24:31 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: aburneynic@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: accb8a38.ipt.aol.com at 172.203.138.56
Message:
I don't think that was Margai's reason for merging with the APC, he is a bit too Machiavellian for that.
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: FENTHI
To: All
Date Posted: 05:58:46 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: fenthi@hotmail.com
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Message:
Dr.Christiana Thorpe
Subject: Re: WHO DO YOU THINK IS THE SIERRA LEONEAN OF THE YEAR?
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 08:09:37 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I concur. Christiana Thorpe without a doubt. Had she not been a lioness in resisting the intimidation and threats, the elections would have been a wash and the country would probably be convulsed by violence now. She stuck to principle, without fair or favour, and delivered one of the fairest elections in the world...all this despite the machinations of fifth columnists within the electoral comiission itself.
PERSON OF THE YEAR----Dr. CHRISTIANA THORPE!
Subject: RE: EMMERSON LIVE PERFORMANCE IN LOS ANGELES...!!
From: MUSA
To: All
Date Posted: 04:02:02 10/14/07 ()
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Entered From: adsl-76-195-144-238.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net at 76.195.144.238
Message:
It appears that the Emmerson show in Los Angeles on 10/13/07 run's at a loss due to poor advertisment.
members who went left earlier than they anticipated.
Reasons are unconnected with poor stratigies in their publicity method. The boy "Emmerson" try hard to motivate the crowd however, the turn-out of participant especially with the Sierra Leoneans was not impressive. It was mostly attended by most Liberians and Nigerians.
Subject: MARGAI BACK TO BASE!!!
From: INSIDER
To: All
Date Posted: 00:19:56 10/14/07 ()
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Message:
Honestly! Berewa should not have been the presidential candidate for
SLPP in the first place. He lacks presidential attributes and charisma –
the Sierra Leonean people were grateful for what he did for them so
they returned the favor. He should be grateful. Can you imagine your
head of state snoring and drooling at the UN general assembly?
Kabba don’t really care about SLPP, he dubious, self centered and very
vindictive. The deal was if he stayed out of the election process he
would be receive immunity and that’s exactly what he did. He can now
travel freely as he wants; chase the FBC girls and Nigerian actresses.
Common now, that’s a heck of a deal.
Berewa sorry it turned out this way, your former boss used you to
accomplish his personal agenda and victimized others in the process.
MAN! You should have known this guy was up to no good, but you
were power hungry. “You sell you oath for cocoa en yebbeh.” Well,
you’re back on the right footing continue to lobby and suck-up.
How it feels to be isolated? You teamed up with Kabba to marginalize
Charles, but guess what? He is highly respected. And if APC fails to
carryout the mandate of the people, he will be the next president – you
underestimated the chap, you know he is brilliant.
I warned you over and over about Kabba but you never listened. You
think book smart is street smart; let bygone be bygone my friend and
let the past be history.
Kabba is seen as a hero around the world for handing over power
peaceful. What a legacy! Funnily, he is very proud of his
accomplishments, you should hear him speak behind closed doors. He
is a man of multiple personalities, a dictator and the king of
vindictiveness. Sometime when he talks about religion, I just smile.
I can go on and on…I WILL GIVE HIM THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT!
Subject: Re: MARGAI BACK TO BASE!!!
From: John E. Leigh
To: All
Date Posted: 14:44:41 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: johnernestleigh@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-74-72-97-18.nyc.res.rr.com at 74.72.97.18
Message:
Dear Mr. INSIDER:
If Mr Margai is "highly respected" as you claim, he is respected only in certain quarters, not nationwide. He is certainly not welcomed in large parts of the country as far as I know. And if you look at the results of the second round of voting, many, many voters deserted him for the SLPP. Thank you. JL
Subject: Re: MARGAI BACK TO BASE!!!
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 15:59:27 10/15/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
John: End your aggression and direspect for Cahrles Margai. Afterall both you and Margai were treated badly by an ungrateful party and a party that brought shame on itself. Margai decided to fight for a change from outside. I think he desserved respect. No third party has ever won 10 seats in an election in Sierra Leone. He will do better in 2012.
Subject: KABBA STAY AWAY FROM THE SLPP
From: alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 22:24:03 10/13/07 ()
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"Hands Off Our Party" SLPP Supporters Tell Ex-President Tejan Kabbah
Posted by on Oct 13, 2007, 06:47
Sierra Leone opposition supporters warn Tejan Kabbah Freetown, Sierra Leone (PANA) - Former President of Sierra Leone, Ahmed Tejan Kabbah, who retired after two five-year terms under the banner of the Sierra Leone Peoples party (SLPP), has been warned by angry supporters of the party to hands off its (SLPP) affairs.
Sierra Leone (PANA) - Former President of Sierra Leone, Ahmed Tejan Kabbah, who retired after two five-year terms under the banner of the Sierra Leone Peoples party (SLPP), has been warned by angry supporters of the party to hands off its (SLPP) affairs.
According to the pro-SLPP newspaper, "The Democrat", the former President had been informed he would be running a grave security risk by going near large gatherings of members of the SLPP, and therefore advised to keep his distance from his former party supporters as much as possible.
The development came in the wake of widespread speculations Tejan Kabbah had proposed a reconstruction of the party headquarters.
The ex-President had been accused on SLPP's FM 94.3 FM and at the SLPP headquarters of selling out the former ruling party and betraying the party's flag bearer and presidential candidate, Solomon Berewa, in the recently-concluded presidential and parliamentary elections.
Tejan Kabbah was alleged to have plotted downfall of Berewa and the SLPP, because he no longer felt safe with his former deputy and because of alleged jealousy, as he was said to have envisaged Berewa would offer a more effective leadership than him.
The former President has yet to react to the development because he is currently in South Africa on a private mission.
Berewa was defeated by Ernest Bai Koroma at in the elections
Subject: Re: KABBA STAY AWAY FROM THE SLPP
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 15:03:23 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
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Message:
Why did the party faithful had to wait for kabba to messed the party up before they moaned?
Subject: LIBERIA: GO TO SCHOOL OR GO TO JAIL. SALONE PARENTS BEWARE!
From: FLOMO
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Date Posted: 21:12:41 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: flomo@aol.com
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LIBERIA: Go to school or go to jail
Photo: Kate Thomas/IRIN
Many children spend their days selling food and other goods instead of going to school
MONROVIA, 21 September 2007 (IRIN) - Seven-year-old Assatou has been selling grilled plantains at a busy junction on the outskirts of the Liberian capital, Monrovia, for two years. "My family can't afford to send me to school," she says with a sigh. “So I learned how to cook plantain instead."
Under a new education policy, parents or guardians of children like Assatou will soon face fines or even be arrested for allowing their children to sell in the streets during school hours. President Ellen Johnson Sirleaf in early September announced the measure, which is said to be aimed at increasing school enrolment and curbing child labour.
However, the announcement is drawing criticism from local rights activists.
"We're not satisfied with the new [measure],” Joseph Harris of the Liberian children's rights group FOCUS told IRIN. "Imposing fines or arresting guardians is not the way to handle the problem of children working on the streets... The issue is due to complex economic and social factors. It needs to be solved rather than put under the carpet."
Parents say they would much rather put their children in school than to work, but they have no choice.
The Education Ministry says the policy, which will be phased in gradually beginning with the coming academic year, is intended in part to reduce child trafficking. Children are lured from the counties to Monrovia on the promise of education only to wind up as hawkers on street corners.
"Children are not breadwinners," said Hawa Gol Kotchi, deputy minister of education for information. "They should be in school, not working on the street."
Gol Kotchi said the move was part of a drive to meet a Millennium Development Goal to have all children enrolled in school by 2015. "It's based on common sense. We noticed a large number of children working on the street, and this is a good way to get them into school."
Compulsory but not free?
However, implementing the new policy is likely to prove difficult, particularly given that Liberia’s justice system is weak.
"Once the new law comes into force, the police will have to launch a mechanism to inform children and their parents why they are being arrested," Alvin Jask Kanneh, deputy commissioner of the Liberian National Police, told IRIN.
“And of course there is the issue of clashes with the police. Parents may refuse to comply," he said.
He added: "Many children don't know their age or don't have birth certificates. That will be another hurdle in the process.”
Liberia's much-hyped Free and Compulsory Education legislation – supposed to enable every child aged 5 to 11 to attend school free of charge – has been on the books since 2004, but is yet to be fully implemented.
Photo: Kate Thomas/IRIN
Children in a private school in Monrovia
Local human rights groups say the measure to punish non-school-attendance would be premature. In parts of Monrovia there are not enough classrooms for every school-age child so many parents are forced to pay as much as US$200 a year to send their children to private elementary schools, and they also have to buy uniforms, books and pens.
A police officer in Liberia can make $150 a month, a vegetable vendor up to $30. Unemployment stands at about 80 percent.
Mixed views
The rights group FOCUS said that unless the government measures were backed by practical action to provide free education for all children, the move would backfire. "Parents do not take pleasure in reducing their children to perpetual peddlers,” FOCUS said in a statement in Liberia’s The Analyst newspaper. “It is a measure of poverty and desperation."
Charlotte Kaicora, the headmistress of a private school in downtown Monrovia, said she believed many parents would resist. "Most of the children selling on the street on behalf of their parents are in low economic groups... Whether it can be implemented… I don’t know."
Her view was echoed by a group of women gathered at the busy ELW junction on the outskirts of Monrovia. "I want to send my daughter to school but I don't have the money," Lauren Jalloh, who makes around US$20 a month selling fruit and vegetables, told IRIN.
David M. Johnson, a father of four, also said Liberians were not ready for such dramatic measures. "Everyone wants their children to be able to go to school,” he said. “But until the state can provide free tuition for everyone it will be impossible."
Many children cheered when they heard the new government announcement. "If we don't go to school, we don't learn,” 12-year-old Patience told IRIN.
Some children, such as 10-year-old James, have to compromise. He works in the mornings and attends school in the afternoons.
Mohammed Kamara, a taxi driver, said having children in school would be good in another way. "Children make money by wandering among cars selling chocolate, sweets and water. But children are so small, and truck drivers don't always see them… there are many terrible accidents on the streets."
The Education Ministry’s Gol Kotchi said officials are under no illusions about the difficulties of implementing the new measure, emphasising that it would not take effect immediately. "We're not going to collect all the children working on the street right this minute," she said.
"We're slowly doing more assessments and renovating our teacher training institutions,” she said. “These are all measures we are taking in preparation for a full-scale free and compulsory education system.”
Subject: LIBERIAN EXECUTIVE SERVICE- WHERE IS SHEKU SESAY'S REPORT
From: CHAPCHAP
To: All
Date Posted: 20:53:15 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: chapchap@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 206.216.34.251
Message:
Republic of Liberia
Civil Service Agency
SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE
Vacancy Announcement (Repeat)
The Perspective
Atlanta, Georgia
October 8, 2007
Titles of Positions: 1) Senior Transport Economist, Ministry of Public Works
2) Senior Bridge Engineer, Ministry of Public Works
3) Road Construction Equipment Maintenance Specialist, Ministry of Public works
4) National Land Reform Program Coordinator, Land Administrative Reform Program Unit, Division of Operation, Ministry of Lands, Mines and Energy
5) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Justice
6) Lawyer, Ministry of Justice
7) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Commerce and Industry
Contract Type: SES Contract
Remuneration: Up to US$36,000.00 annually for each position
Duty Station: Monrovia
Duration: Three years (renewable yearly based on performance and funding)
Start Date: Immediate
Date of Issue: October 9, 2007
Closing Date: October 23, 2007
All applications should be addressed to:
The Program Coordinator
Senior Executive Service Program
Civil Service Agency, R.L.
63 Carey Street, Monrovia
Liberia
Email: edward.cuffy@yahoo.com or call tel: +231-6-903842
Background
The SENIOR EXECUTIVE SERVICE is a key Program of the Government’s civil service reforms, intended to develop adequate surge capacity to provide leadership and management to implement priority programmes and catalyze strategic change in Liberia. The SES program has been established to attract and recruit competent and skilled Liberian professionals to help the Government work toward achieving effective management of public affairs, promoting economic growth and improving service delivery under the civil service code of conduct.
Objectives, Primary Duties and Activities, Reporting and Qualifications
1) Senior Transport Economist, Ministry of Public Works
Objective: Lead and direct the planning of the road transport network including traffic studies. Represent the Ministry of Public Works in all meetings and discussions with the Ministry of Transport in developing a National Transport Policy.
Primary Duties and Activities
Help formulate government transport economic policies
Study the effects of government economic and monetary policies, expenditure, taxation and other budgetary controls on the economy and the community transportation needs
Identify opportunities to improve efficiency and international competitiveness in regard to transport matters
Research, analyze and record the effects of the country transport programs on economic and industrial growth
Prepare forecasts, analyze trends and advise on transportation issues
Reporting
Reports to the Deputy Minister for Technical Services
Qualification and Experience
A Master Degree from a reputable institution in Transport Economics or its equivalent and a Bachelor Degree in Civil Engineering is an added advantage
At least ten years experience covering a full range of socioeconomic project evaluation and policy analysis in the transport sector. Previous exposure to road construction would be ideal
2) Senior Bridge Engineer, Ministry of Public Works
Objective
The Senior Bridge Engineer will supervise the planning, designing and coordinating construction of bridges and drainage structure in Liberia.
Primary Duties and Activities
Develop appropriate strategies in establishing the bridges and drainage structure for Liberia
Lead the design and delivery of bridge and highways structures projects using both traditional and design/build delivery formats
Manage a wide variety of structural engineering projects, including bridges, retaining walls, highway structures and waterfront structure
As the team leader, direct team members work, mentor junior staff and provide technical and quality guidance
Undertake appropriate client relationships and set up mechanisms to monitor client reactions
Reporting
Reports to the Assistant Minister for Technical Services
Qualification and Experience
A Master Degree in Structural Engineering
Must be a licensed Engineer and have at least ten years experience in designing bridges.
3) Road Construction Equipment maintenance Specialist, Ministry of Public works
Objective
Lead and manage a team in accomplishing specific tasks while operating equipment; perform safety inspection prior to operating equipment and monitor gauges and other equipment while in operation. Oversee routine maintenance and ensure that repair are undertaken.
Primary Duties and Activities
In consultation with the Mobile Workshop Director, prepare routine and periodic maintenance schedules of earth moving equipment and all related machinery
Conduct safety inspection of all earthmoving equipment and related machinery
Ensure that repairs are made to earthmoving equipment and all related machinery
Conduct in-house advance training for mechanics and related personnel
Effectively manage a team to ensure all tasks are undertaken in an efficient manner
Reporting
Reports to the Deputy Minister for Technical Services
Qualification and Experience
A Bachelor Degree in Mechanical Engineering; Masters Degree in Mechanical Engineering is an added advantage
At least five years experience as a Heavy Duty Mechanic (Master Mechanic) in earthmoving/construction Equipment
4) National Land Reform Program Coordinator, Land Administrative Reform Program Unit, Division of Operation, Ministry of Lands, Mines and Energy
Objective
Ensure effective coordination and implementation of the Government's Land Administration Reform Program.
Primary Duties and Activities
· Provide professional support to the office of the Deputy Minister for Operations to enhance the Ministry's effectiveness in land administration:
a) Coordinate the Ministry's endeavors to improve its administrative and regulatory effectiveness within the framework of existing laws;
b) Review existing internal institutional framework for land administration and propose revisions;
c) Review existing land surveying and mapping procedures and recommend measures for improvement;
d) Review existing land information systems and propose measures for improvements,
e) Coordinate implementation of selected and approved measures for improving existing land administration mechanisms.
· Oversee the Ministry's land sector coordination role and performance as lead agency in national land administration and coordinate government’s efforts to formulate a National land Administration Reform Program.
a) Coordinate all inputs by the Ministry to the National Land Administration Program formulation;
b) Provide national coordination services or advice to the inter-agency technical committee on land administration reform;
.
Reporting
· Reports to the Deputy Minister for Operations who Chairs the Inter-Agency Committee on Land Administration Reform.
· Receives reports from:
a) All staff of the Ministry involved with the Land Administration Reform program i.e, The Assistant Minister for Lands, Surveys and Cartography, the Directors of the Bureau of Land & Surveys, The Direct of the Bureau of Land Information & Training and the Director of the Liberian Cartographic Services; as well as the Technical Assistant for Land Services in the Office of the Deputy Minister for Operations.
Minimum Qualifications and Experience
· Bachelor’s degree in Mathematics, Land Surveying, Surveying Engineering or a related science discipline. Master’s preferred
The applicant should have at least eight years of experience in land administration, land reform systems, or land- related reforms in the public or private sector, with at least four years of practical experience. Minimum of 12 months of experience in coordination of entities around a common objective
5) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Justice and
6) Lawyer, Ministry of Justice
Objective
To strengthen the ability of the Ministry and the court enhance the representation of the Ministry in legal actions and manage the Ministry’s rule making process.
Primary Duties and Activities
Under the guidance of the Minister provide specialized legal advice on all aspects of law and procedure with an emphasis on criminal and international humanitarian law
Attend judicial proceedings and hearings at trial or on appeal and provide expert advice to the Minister in an expeditious manner on the various issues pending in various courts
Supervise research undertaken by the legal officers and provide the Minister with reports and decisions in a timely manner
Provide legal advice on procedural and substantive law and participate in meetings with Minister and staff;
Assist in the drafting and review of legislation and review legislation, draft and review contracts
Reporting
· Reports to the Minister
Qualification and Experience
· Attorney at law, JD/LLB preferably with specialization in international, criminal or humanitarian law
· Minimum of seven years legal experience, at either the national or international level, preferably with an emphasis in criminal law, international law or humanitarian law. Experience with litigation in Liberia, and/or knowledge of the Liberian legal system is a plus
7) Legal Counselor, Ministry of Commerce and Industry
Objective
Strengthen the ability of the Ministry to carry out its responsibilities through the provision of expert in-house legal services. In particular, review all documents with legal implications, advise the Minister on issues relating to rule of law, provide legal assistance and advice to key stakeholders, represent the Ministry in legal actions, and manage the Ministry’s rule making process.
Primary Duties and Activities
Advise the Ministry on the necessary underlying commercial legal structures to develop the strengthen Liberia’s economy
Serve on interagency teams that negotiate, interpret and enforce trade and investment agreements with foreign governments
Advise and be an advocate for Liberian exporters and investors. Respond to questions or problems that arise in local/foreign business transactions
Review the mandates of the Ministry and comply with all applicable legal requirements
Counsel the Ministry and assist government counterparts in legal action taken against any individual or business within the commerce of Liberia, in cases where the Ministry is being sued by any individual, business or organization
Manage the Ministry’s rule making process pertaining to the Minister’s oversight of commerce and industry
Liaise with the Ministry of Justice in all matters related to the mandate and function of the Commerce and Industry
Liaise with relevant line ministries to ensure compliance with all applicable treaties and trade obligations
Reporting
· Reports to the Minister of Commerce and Industry
Qualification and Experience
· Attorney at law, JD/LLB
· Must have 8 years of experience with a) litigation in international commercial laws, business law governing commercial transactions and activities and regulation, and/or b) professional academic experience in legal research of commercial theories, practices and regulations. Experience with litigation in Liberia, and/or Liberian commercial law is a plus.
Subject: take a look at me now
From: jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 20:33:07 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-24-15-212-63.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 24.15.212.63
Message:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzVUNQSs5f4
Subject: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: Forum Veteran
To: All
Date Posted: 20:11:31 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253
Message:
I want to discuss something very important with him. Please tell me how I can contact him.
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: Another Forum Veteran
To: All
Date Posted: 21:53:04 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h247.191.213.151.ip.alltel.net at 151.213.191.247
Message:
Don Webb was guite an old man. He had some kind of solution for any problem. He had elaborate plans for Sa Leone, the west to east, north to south rail road system the country needs, his paradise island Bonthe and many other ideas in Job creation and so on. It will be nice to have him back, if he is not below the grass.
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:47:01 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Might be right.. Thought he was gone too....
Subject: Re: Can anyone tell me the whereabouts of Don Webb?
From: Curious
To: All
Date Posted: 05:43:50 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
alieu sesay, what do you know about Don Webb?
Subject: FAO:MOHAMEDBARIGUE
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 19:13:45 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 5ac432e7.bb.sky.com at 90.196.50.231
Message:
Can you contact the folling individual who wants a ticket to Freetown:
kadia - (001) 763 971 0059 / (001) 763 221 8533
Subject: Re: FAO:MOHAMEDBARIGUE
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 22:17:13 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Bo Brah Do yah noh do dis aygane.
Now ah kin abul fen yu nah europe tru dah numba (Hahaha)
Always remember this is an open forum (you can't track all members). Emails are ok. (they aren't always on public record, but phone numbers are)
You nah Pa Harding ihn student, so arh consan.
Subject: Re: FAO:MOHAMEDBARIGUE
From: MOHAMED BARIGUE
To: All
Date Posted: 20:45:52 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: mohamedbaigue@yahoo.fr
Entered From: c-69-143-225-68.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.225.68
Message:
mohamedbarigue@yahoo.fr
Subject: BRA CORNIE WHERE ARE YOU?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 19:00:55 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
About 1975, this Nigerian lp was the longest playing ever. If my memory serves me well, some called it "the African train". The real title, however, I will like to believe is "Ikenga Of Africa". Not absolutely sure of thas either. But one thing for sure, the lyrics includes "long live Africa"
Where can I get this song Bra Cornie?
I searched the net with no trace of it.
Please help Bra Cornie or anyone.
Subject: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Alieu Sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 18:01:24 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Did EBK really choose this GROUP of people?
Over Eighty percent of the ministers are from the NORTH. Why was the President telling the world that he is a uniter and not a divider?
Do we really need a FAKE uniter?
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 19:21:16 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
How do you know that 80 percent of his ministers are from the north? Some of those with Northern-sounding names may have been born and raised in the South and East. Point in case: You, Alieu Sesay, a very strong and passionate Southeasterncrat, have one of the most Northern surnames, Sesay, in Sierra Leone. I think the old rules of tribal profiling do not count anymore. Besides, some of those ministers were approved by the great Southern patriot, Charles Margai himself.
Do you want us to start listing the tribe/region of the ministers? For example, Dr. Succoh Kabia- son of the great Mende Paramount Chief Madam Ella Koblo Gullama of Moyamba and PC Bai Koblo Path bana of Lunsar..blahblah.
As long as all of the regions are represented in the cabinet, that is a step in the right direction. We will judge their performance later. Let's move on prof!
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:54:05 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Somtin? You mentioned Kabia, he is a northerner...and so are the fifteen others.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 18:51:00 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
If the SLPP cannot unite the South/East, then I must have my very own misgivings about this call for a "government of national unity" headed by the APC.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: nico
To: All
Date Posted: 19:26:30 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: nicoleconsult@hotmail.com
Entered From: 82-35-143-136.cable.ubr03.enfi.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.35.143.136
Message:
I don't see any logic in a government of national unity. I think this concept is misnomal, it is simply inapplicable when a democratically elected govt had an overwhelming majority and can deliver its policies without the opposition alliance.
Beside unity government presupposes that the nation is fundamentally fractured to the point where inclusion of some agrieved opponents may be necessry to enhance stability and peace.
Koroma is not obliged either by constitution or otherwise to include any member of SLPP in his govt unless if he wishes to do so.
I am not an APC but my view is that koroma's judgement is correct both strategically and politically.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Panlamp
To: All
Date Posted: 20:14:22 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: panlamp2000@yahoo.com
Entered From: cpe-071-077-033-103.nc.res.rr.com at 71.77.33.103
Message:
This is the most National Unity cabinet you can get. Like it or not. What everyone should care about is results and this is the cabinet that will bring results to us all as a nation. You watch.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 19:38:59 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 144.226.173.69
Message:
Na true yu tork so chief!
The best we probably can hope for in a government is individual responsibility not tribal or regional representation.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:47:30 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
KING! the SLPP did not ask for a government of NATIONAL unity... EBK did. But we dae watch dem.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 21:28:14 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
Alieu, seems like you are finding anything and everything to cry about. Given the rat-tar-tar performance of the SLPP during the past eleven years, the need to find the better qualified to change coruse trumps the need to get representation from the diffrent regions.. After all we are all S/Leonean. You guys love defining the line of regionalism and tribalism. Please lets fix your wrong first...
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:04:46 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
You sound like my "name-sake" the "GREAT" one.
But the fact remains, the APC folks have called the SLPP a mende-man party, and that we are a bunch of tribalists.
Heck! look at what we are seeing.. A purely NORTHERN cabinet...Ar sorry for Salone.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 22:30:58 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
And I ask you my learned brother: Again, what is most important to you personally? getting folks that can get the job done? or National representaion of cabinet rank members? please give me a straight answer.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 22:45:28 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Call me spider.. but i think both... Why? The last election was TRIBAL and hence one will expect the CABINET to be inclusive so as to alley the fears of millions who think that the APC will marginalize and purnish them for exercising their democratic right to vote otherwise.
But what do i know?
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: The guy
To: All
Date Posted: 23:16:44 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
In deed, if you vote otherwise you should expect otherwise; However, we all regardless of party affiliation we all stand to gain from the revivification of prosperity under APC. If you are not called to serve, then you are saved from all the trouble that comes with it. Except if abd only if "you man dem wan go complete the damage".
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Riverbend
To: All
Date Posted: 09:03:22 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-44c6f241.dyn.optonline.net at 68.198.242.65
Message:
Alieu:
i think I agree with you on certain grounds. I think there is ethics in politics. In essence, if you make a promise to the electorate, you must deliver on those promises - a reason why your SLPP was booted out. Therefore, EBK has the responsibility to do exactly what he promised - Form a government of National Unity. Or is it what John Leigh would refer to as Post-Election Statements - which no longer hold after elections?
Riverbend
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: Fen Plaba
To: All
Date Posted: 09:18:32 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
EBK has put in place a govt of national unity, from all regions. Some people are more concerned with profiling people by their surnames. This is ridiculous. There are many Sesays and Kamaras who are Mende, and many Kandehs and Vandys who are Temne, Limba or Loko. This is a product of the tolerant culture of intermarriage in our country. Seems our forebearers were much more enlightened than the present educated elites who demand tribal purity in everything. We gotta move on and give this cabinet a chance. Let's judge them by their performance and not the base sequence in their DNA.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 11:00:20 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Fen Plaba! The proposed cabinet is very NORTHERN. There is no "ALIEU SESAY" type individual ON THAT LIST. Every Mansaray, Koroma, Kamara, Conteh, etc etc is from the North. Even Kabia whose mother was the PC from kaiyamba, he is also a Northerner.
Pray they perform, or else, the APC will be a ONE-TERM wonder.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: KRIO
To: All
Date Posted: 18:22:51 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
National unity was never an issue. The President did not say he will make ministers from every corner of sierra leone or from every party.
APC is showing SLPP how to run a government.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A NATIONAL UNITY GOVERNMENT?
From: ITK
To: All
Date Posted: 12:44:31 10/14/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 38.98.119.16
Message:
Oh yes he did. Not that it matters one way or the other. What is important is that the cabinet deliver. Let's move on.
Subject: Ah dae bust!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:38:56 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194097.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.97
Message:
Wahalah!
I am laughing like a fool!
Subject: Re: Ah dae bust!
From: Somtin Butu!
To: All
Date Posted: 17:58:04 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Walahi, you are so right. Dr. Nahim is calling, homes.
Subject: SEX PAPER VIEW
From: CHARLES _CURTIS THOMAS RN MD
To: All
Date Posted: 17:23:53 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 198.133.139.165
Message:
This night i will be on my web cam performing live sex, so if interested please let me know. i have being masturbating for too long now
Subject: DO WE NEED FOURTY DEPUTY MINISTERS TO RUN SA LEONE?
From: INSIDER
To: All
Date Posted: 17:13:43 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip72-192-206-51.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.206.51
Message:
The word on the street is that each ministry will have two DEPUTY
ministers. Why two?
Subject: Re: DO WE NEED FOURTY DEPUTY MINISTERS TO RUN SA LEONE?
From: babbob
To: All
Date Posted: 22:03:53 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Firstly, we need to know the job functions of the deputies.
If their job functions entails what the Perm Sec normally does, but the Deputy Min is there to be held accountable, then let it fly. We'll see.
We need to Ask the Government to publish job functions of all ministers and their deputies. If we know their functions, then we also can accurately judge their performances.
Hope COCORIOKO will help us in publishing these. Probably, make a section for Government Documents and publish all in pdf/word.
I'm beginning to like the IDEA of COCORIOKO being a PR outlet for APC. I PERSONALLY HAVE A LOT TO GAIN FROM THAT. Publish all customs tariff, government forms and official service fees.
Subject: Re: DO WE NEED FOURTY DEPUTY MINISTERS TO RUN SA LEONE?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 20:26:39 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
How credible is that piece of news? Some of the needless ministries duplicating themselves can be a burden on a weak economy. Having two deputy ministers in every ministry will be an unforgivable waste.
Subject: 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Mohamed Yongawo
To: All
Date Posted: 15:02:01 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: yongawomohamed@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
My concern is not the ethnic identity of the individuals. My concern, as I outlined in my last contribution to patriotic vanguard, is the share number of ministers. EBK DO WE REALLY NEED 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE? I still think we don’t. Nevertheless, EBK you are in the driving seat, you probably know what I do not know. I wish you all the best.
Subject: Re: 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 15:26:48 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 199.219.162.191
Message:
Your concerns are noted..but did you know Pa Kabbah had 25/8 Ministers? If Pres. EKB has reduced the cabinet to 20/3, I think he has done good so far...
Subject: Re: 20 MINISTERS TO RUN SIERRA LEONE?
From: Mohamed Yongawo
To: All
Date Posted: 17:25:23 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: yongawomohamed@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
There was no justification for Kabba to have "25/8" ministers. Let me reiterate that irrespective of who is in power, 12/13 ministers are just enough for Sierra Leone. This has always been my view and it will remain so. Prior to the elections I made my position in a piece I sent to cocorioko but it was never published. Probably the editor judged it was premature. I still wish EBK good luck.
Subject: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: Almamy Razak Tun Seray-Wurie Si
To: All
Date Posted: 14:45:26 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: almamysi@hotmail.com
Entered From: at 199.219.162.191
Message:
Pa Siaka once filled his cabinet will PhDs but time told that the Salone man bizness tranga still. H.E. Pres. Koroma has filled his cabinet with J.C.'s/New Breeds, hope SL will do better this time. The list includes:
VP Sumana
Mineral Resources Jalloh
Health Kabia
Lands Davies
Housing Saad
Marine Kapu
Defence Conteh
...............................
Others with International experience include:
Finance Davies
Foreign Affairs Bangura
Education Bah
..................................................
Home Grown Politicians:
Energy Kabbah
Children/Welfare Kandeh
Spokesman Kanu
Information Kargbo
Agriculture Sesay
Justice Serry-Kamal
Trade Koroma
Transport Sesay
..............................
JC-HG like:
Tourism Trye
Interior Kamara
Labour Mansaray
Subject: Re: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: Bugsyb
To: All
Date Posted: 06:27:39 10/14/07 ()
Email Address: aburneynic@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: acc9b12a.ipt.aol.com at 172.201.177.42
Message:
The nominee for Finance is Carew or is it a Fruedian slip? Raymond Davies was Carew's Boss(GOD) at KPMG for many years.
Subject: Re: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: HG Case File
To: All
Date Posted: 20:08:08 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cpe-69-203-69-20.nyc.res.rr.com at 69.203.69.20
Message:
My Friend,Is Hindolo Trye really a JC-HG? I dont think so
Was he not the same person who legislated a press bill that required newspapers to have at least
one million or more leones in their accounts in case they get sued for libel? Was Mr. Trye not the Information Minister who
bought back to life television in Sierra Leone? Was he not the same person as Transportation Minister who made Taxicabs
to begin distinguishing themselves with yellow colored paint?..Considering his ministerial records I am sure other forumites will
agree with me The former Student leader is certainly not a JC-HG as you now alleging.
Subject: Re: THANK GOD FOR THE NEW BREEDS but TIME will TELL
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 17:47:28 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Very informative. thanx for dreaking it down for us.
Subject: HOW CAN CHANGE BE IMPLEMENTED TO MINIMIZE RESISTANCE?
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:00 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: Cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-206-51.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.206.51
Message:
What an interesting exchange regarding the cleanliness of the country.
These are the kind of civilized conversations we need in this forum.
Utilizing mind mapping/engaging in a meaningful debate to come up
with solutions for the issues the country is facing.
I concur with you guys that strict measures/legislations should be
enacted/implemented to keep the country clean. We should not forget
that implementing change is arduous; by nature human being do like
change – resistance to change.
There are certain steps that should be taken to minimize change
resistant and make it effectives. (1) Create the need for change
(urgency) - by explaining why the change is necessary/benefits, and
the effect if the change is not implemented/instituted; (2) Involve the
people in the process – by soliciting their ideas/inputs - make them
part of the change process; (3) Create an avenue for feedback – where
people can express their pleasure or displeasure; and finally build
consensus – supporters/ambassadors of change. The aforementioned
are some of the techniques use to minimize change resistant.
LETS KEEP THE DEBATE ALIVE MY COMPATRIOTS.
Peace and love
One Country and One People
Subject: Eid Greetings
From: Alieru Bakarr
To: All
Date Posted: 14:36:51 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-82-160-44.cmdnnj.east.verizon.net at 72.82.160.44
Message:
EId-ul Mubarak to all Sierra leoneans.
May the Almighty Allah Bless our President and his miniters.
May He accept our fasting, prayers and zakats.
God bless us all and Sierra leone.
Amin.
Subject: Re: Eid Greetings
From: Abdul Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 20:31:22 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: abdulcole@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-244-053-040.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.244.53.40
Message:
Wish you the same alpha Alieru and everyone.
Subject: Re: Eid Greetings
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 14:42:36 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: COttontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-206-51.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.206.51
Message:
EID-UL MUBARAK TO YOU MY FRIEND AND TO ALL MY COUNTRY MEN
AND WOMEN...
Subject: Thank God!
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 14:18:27 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194097.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.97
Message:
It was a problem for our nation. Can you believe that!
You mean to tell me you still do not understand? And they still will not understand.Wow.
I have to go!
Subject: Re: Thank God!
From: Get help Bambay!
To: All
Date Posted: 18:13:45 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
I wish you the best, bro, as you fight to overcome the demons that are torturing you. I hope you seek help to quell the voices screaming in your head. There was a time when I would have said something flippant just to gas with your head. But mental illness is a very serious and misunderstood illness. It really is no joking matter. Please seek help and regain your health and well-being. You're gonna be just fine. All the best, bro. Please get help!
Subject: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 12:28:25 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: Cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-202-227.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.202.227
Message:
My fellow compatriots the president has finished selecting his cabinets/
team to help carryout his objectives and the mandate of the voters/people
of our beloved Sierra Leone.
There are familiar names with a track record and some are new in the
political arena. CAN SOMEONE HELP SHADE SOME LIGHT ON THIS LATEST
SELECTION?
Peace and love
One Country and One People
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 13:48:59 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.242.151.74
Message:
What are you talking about? And where do we need to "shade" some light? ooh to shed some light?
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr President
To: All
Date Posted: 14:18:35 10/13/07 ()
Email Address: cottontree1800@gmail.com
Entered From: ip72-192-206-51.dc.dc.cox.net at 72.192.206.51
Message:
Eddie: Thanks for the correction. I meant to say shed, you got the
message, that is the essence of communication.
Peace and Love
One Country and One People
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr. Mechanic
To: All
Date Posted: 23:01:49 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
Happy 59th! Mr. President, Eid Mubarak!... What exactly are you not amazed about? or what is it that the APC does not seem to cease to amaze you about?
All your predictions or I should say dicta failed to attract any merit. What happen? Is that The palm tree tactic: if you talk about it enough, it may come to pass?
Subject: Re: WOW! APC HAS DONE IT AGAIN! THEY NEVER SEEMED TO AMAZE ME!
From: Mr. Mechanic
To: All
Date Posted: 22:58:44 10/13/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 207.59.16.69
Message:
Happy 59th! Mr. President, Eid Mubarak!... What exactly are you not amazed about?
All your predictions or I sho