Subject: KABS AND THE COCORIOKO CREW ARE RATTLED
From: SANTOS MANGA
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Date Posted: 06:56:40 10/02/07 ()
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EDITORIAL COMMENT : WHERE WERE ALL THESE INGRATES NOW ATTACKING DIASPORANS?
ABOVE READS THE COCORIOKO HEADLINE. KABS ARE YOU GETTING RATTLED OVER THE WAY APPARENTLY YOUR CRONIES ARE BEEN TREATED BY THE BOYS IN SALONE? TRUST ME THEY ARE ROUGH. NO SYCOPHANCY FOR THIS IS THE NEW SALONE YOU'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR. BRING IT ON EBK!
Subject: I want to be your eyes and ears
From: Alie Formeh Kamara
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Date Posted: 06:55:14 10/02/07 ()
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I am going to Sierra Leone on 10/3/07. As I said in an earlier posting, I will be reporting news to you at the forum.
If you have anything of special interest and of a general nature that you want me to report on please make your interest known.
Examples include: Street traders, Bumeh resident, Gabbage clearance, Parliamentary session, The blind school, views about people in the Diaspora etc.
Make your interest known.
God bless.
Subject: DO AWAY WITH BUREAUCRATIC BOTTLENECKS
From: SUBWANALAI
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Date Posted: 06:00:49 10/02/07 ()
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Uproar Over Abandoned Clock Tower
Mohamed Shaban alias ‘Waka Fast’ who declares himself as a patriotic Sierra Leonean and a staunch supporter of the All Peoples Congress party argued yesterday that the completion of the abandoned clock tower would be his own contribution to the development of Makeni City.
The Chairman of the Makeni City Council, Andrew Kanu, Paramount Chief Bai Shebora Kasangha and popular businessman, Vincent Kanu all agreed that proper modalities must be put in place before the construction commences at the work site of the clock tower.
The Makeni clock tower was an elaborate programme undertaken by the Makeni City Council for thirteen years to beautify the city as it was also necessary for the City Council to create a central landmark in the municipality.
The contractor who had abandoned the Kenema clock tower was again awarded the contract for the Makeni clock tower which he again abandoned without explanation.
The youths of Makeni yesterday were almost up in arms, questioning the rationale behind any further delay in the construction of the clock tower project in Makeni when there was already a willing volunteer who has promised to complete the clock tower in three weeks.
Mohamed Shaban alias ‘Waka Fast’ said yesterday that he had mobilized materials and workers for the completion of the clock tower as his own contribution to beautify the city.
The Councilors of the Makeni City Council did not want to appear left out and therefore suggested that all stakeholders, including themselves, be part and parcel of the completion of the clock tower.
PC Bai Shebora Kasangha, the Paramount Chief Member of Parliament for Bombali District and who is also an ex-officio member of the Makeni City Council praised Mohamed Shaban alias ‘Waka Fast’ for his contribution towards the development of Makeni City but appealed to the youths that it was necessary to put in place proper modalities for the completion of the project that is the property of the community.
As his own contribution to the project, businessman Vincent Kanu contributed Le 4,000,000 as the Paramount Chief Bai Shebora Kasangha also contributed Le 1,000,000, contributions that have not interfered with Mohamed Shaban’s determination to complete the clock tower.
“This incomplete clock tower continues to be an eyesore in Makeni and this has lasted for the past twelve years and we are satisfied that at last somebody has stood up to remove the eyesore by actually effecting the completion of the clock tower,” a youth, Amadu Koroma said in Makeni yesterday.
The intervention of the paramount chief and Mr. Vincent Kanu and the sense of understanding demonstrated by Mohamed Shaban alias ‘Waka Fast’ succeeded in appeasing the angry youths who are anxious to see a completed clock tower beautifying the centre of Makeni City and removing the shameful eyesore that has tormented many residents and visitors of the Northern capital town of Makeni.
Posted on 02 Oct 2007
Subject: The new cabinet to be announced after Eid-ul-fitri celeb.
From: Bai Bureh
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Date Posted: 05:44:10 10/02/07 ()
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According to reliable state house sources, the list of the new cabinet is already done.The list has been revised three times to ensure that it will be acceptable both locally and internationally.The sources revealed that the president will withold the announcement until after his innauguration which has been scheduled to take place after ramadan.So it is now clear from the sources that we will know the new cabinet sometime between 15th and 20th or 21st October.
Subject: Re: The new cabinet to be announced after Eid-ul-fitri celeb.
From: SUBWANALAI
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Date Posted: 06:02:17 10/02/07 ()
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Ah tink say na lantern parade.
Subject: THUMBS UP FOR THIS VP!
From: SUBWANALAI
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Date Posted: 05:28:42 10/02/07 ()
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HE CERTAINLY KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING; SOURCE THE PATRIOTIC VANGUARD.COM (FORGIVE MY CAPITAL LETTERS SADAM INSANE).
READ AND STOP MOANING:
“It has come to the notice of the Office of the Vice President that the press release about government officials needing to have security clearance from the Inspector General before leaving the shores of Sierra Leone has been either misunderstood, or deliberately misinterpreted”.
“We are going through a period of transition and before the new Government starts to function effectively, there must be a smooth handing over from the former Ministers to the new. This cannot be done properly if government officials, especially professionals, technocrats and those occupying strategic positions, decided to leave without performing the duties required of them by the Transition Management Team,” the release states.
"In any case, according to the release, “this is not the first time that Government officials are being asked to obtain security clearance before travelling out of the country. This regulation, which has been there all the time, only needs to be reinforced so that Government officials, can perform their assigned tasks before leaving the country as and when necessary”.
“The Government would therefore want to reassure the public that there is no intention to restrict the movement of Government officials for the purpose of witch-hunting, victimization or political harassment,” the release concluded.
Subject: KONO
From: KONO MANSA IN UNITED STATES
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Date Posted: 04:21:01 10/02/07 ()
Email Address: say116@yahoo.com
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EVERYBODY AGGREES WITH ME THAT KONO WAS AND STILL IS THE ECONOMIC LIFE BLOOD OF SIERRA LEONE AND YET THE MOST IGNORED DISTRICT IN THE COUNTRY. WHY?. OUR SO CALL LEADERS ARE THE NOST SELFISH INDIVIDUALS IN THE COUNTRY. TAKE THE OTHER DISTRICTS FOR EXAMPLE KONO FEARS WORSE.
CAN THIS GOVERNMENT BRIDGE THE GAP BY JUST REPAVING OUR ROADS AND GIVING US CLEAN DRINKING WATER. THAT'S ALL WE ASK FOR NOW.
Subject: SLPP will rise no more!
From: news
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Date Posted: 03:50:05 10/02/07 ()
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SLPP will never be given the chance to take the mantle of power any longer. It elitist supporters look down on theordinary and poor Sierra Leoneans. They call our unfortunate compatriots san san boys, raray man, drug addict and all kinds of names. The action of SLPP was evil. They filled all governmnet positions with SLPP card carryinng members. Sylvia Blyden an aristocrat uses her newspaper to ridicule our traders, palm wine tappers, taxi drivers, our poor women and men.
SLPP is a party for the aristocrats and selfish people. It did not only destroy the legacy of Sierra Leoneans, they created a hate school to bring tribal warfare. Sylvia Blyden and his sugar daddies were all behind the plot to bring violence and hate in our midst. When the SLPP gave help, its elitist members will be at the surface to show their egoism.
The SLPP wasted every opportunity to make Sierra Leone shines brighter. It looted State funds. When the auditing exercise would have been completed then everybody will get a clear picture of how SLPP finctionaries raped and swindled Sierra Leone's resources.
There will be consternation and echoes for justice when these malevolent SLPP schemers will be exposed in due course.
The idea of SLPP re-grouping for 20012 is a farce. Its record of malfeasance , injustice, economic terror and other societal ills will garner the voters to reject an SLPP that is synonymous with wickendess, tribalism and destruction.
SLPP will be buried for a long, long time because its children are overtly tribalistic and they have a penchant to shield otehrs from the corridor of power. The SLPP is an all evil entity that seeks Sierra Leone's destruction. No more will the SLPP taste power in our Country as all its children are prone to hate and malice. The utterances made against the poor and peasants by SLPP elites will not make the SLPP occupies power any more.
This prediction will live and everyone reading it will one day say we read it on Cocorioko forum long time ago. As long as the voice of hope and progress lives, an SLPP is history and it will hibernate for many, many years.
Subject: Re: SLPP will rise no more!
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 07:12:53 10/02/07 ()
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If the former murderous, dictatorial,theiving and kleptrocratic APC was able to remake its self in to the so called new APC and win. Who says SLPP cannot do the same.
The true blooded SLPP will be members till death and will stay. The political opportunits and powerhungry meglomaniacs will always leave as they are only interesting accquiring power regardless of the party.
Stop dreaming my brother SLPP is here to stay. They will learn from their mistakes. They were fooled and bullied by an opportunist and incompetent like
TEjan Kabba who destroyed the party by bringing in APC retreads.
Let the audits take place , whoever is guilty will be prosecuted. They should also go back to the APC era as well.
Tribalism. We know the 2007 elections was based on blatant tribalism. APC is just as guilty as SLPP
If I were you , I would worry how the current APC?PMDC will survive the first term. Ernest Koroma's fist weeks do not show a competent leader in control
Subject: Re: SLPP will rise no more!
From: Kamara
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Date Posted: 06:51:14 10/02/07 ()
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If the former murderous, dictatorial,theiving and kleptrocratic APC was able to remake its self in to the so called new APC and win. Who says SLPP cannot do the same.
The true blooded SLPP will be members till death and will stay. The political opportunits and powerhungry meglomaniacs will always leave as they are only interesting accquiring power regardless of the party.
Stop dreaming my brother SLPP is here to stay. They will learn from their mistakes. They were fooled and bullied by an opportunist and incompetent like
TEjan Kabba who destroyed the party by bringing in APC retreads.
Let the audits take place , whoever is guilty will be prosecuted. They should also go back to the APC era as well.
Tribalism. We know the 2007 elections was based on blatant tribalism. APC is just as guilty as SLPP
If I were you , I would worry how the current APC?PMDC will survive the first term. Ernest Koroma's fist weeks do not show a competent leader in control
Subject: What is going on with the State House website?
From: Madingo Man
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Date Posted: 03:22:06 10/02/07 ()
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Can somebody tell the webmaster that we have a new President and Minister of Defence in Sierra Leone.
http://www.statehouse-sl.org/president.html
Subject: Re: What is going on with the State House website?
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 04:15:58 10/02/07 ()
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It's a record and repository of much of the good work that Mr. Kabbah did.
Check it out
http://www.statehouse-sl.org/president.html
Subject: BELIEVE ME SYLVIA WILL SOON PAY FOR HER DEEDS
From: Bonthe Pikin
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Date Posted: 03:12:11 10/02/07 ()
Email Address: bontilaynga@gmail.com
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My guess Sylvia will push the new regime until they take it no more. Very soon she would be called upon to bring her anonymous sources to court. This is utter rubbish. When she wants to write sarcastic comments she qoutes sources that do not exist. But if she has ears let her hear. This is not the useless governments she had paddled with. This is a government of change and for change. People will pay for their sins.LONTA!
Subject: Re: BELIEVE ME SYLVIA WILL SOON PAY FOR HER DEEDS
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 03:21:41 10/02/07 ()
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Indeed, if she has ears, let her hear
If she has eyes let her see,
If she has lips, let her speak and
if she has a big mouth let her open it wide
Subject: Retributive Justice in Sierra Leone
From: What is regret?
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Date Posted: 02:27:19 10/02/07 ()
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Sierra Leoneans are crudely barbaric and full of hate for their brothers and sisters. They hate to see their own progress and all what they like to see is the downfall of their own. Since it was prematuredly given to her children to control her affairs in 1961, all what the inhabitants have seen is hate, malice, wickedness, sadness, and unprecedented suffering.
There has beeb murders, extra judicial killings in Sierra Leone. When terror enveloped Sierra Leone in the 90's, she witnessed the killings of her defenders en masse. These wicked Sierra Leoneans glorified when they shed the blood of the innocent. It took few days to obliterate God's creatures in Sierra Leone. People who were voted to protect their subjects quickly turned against the voters. They massacred innocent people . Today, those who use iron to strike their opponents are expose to their victims will.The blood of Kula Samba, Colonel Kobi Anderson, Victor King and others are crying. The blood of Salami Coker and the poor palm wine tapper is wailing. The blood of Yayah Kanu, and others is still waiting for an apology.Now Kabbah has gone with his unforgiveness doctrine. Will Sierrra Leone usher in a new truth and reconciliation Commission that will divorce from Kabbah/Berewa's doctrine of revenge?
For Sierra Leone to go forward her children must repent and ask for forgiveness to the victims of their heinous acts.
The new APC has the whip now to turn it against their oppressors. However, the road to vengeance is not good so the new APC must forge unity and reconciliation. After all Kabbah/Berewa ignored mercy and choose revenge. So those who live by the sword will die by the sword.
Subject: THE NIGHT OF POWER, LAYLATUL-QADR.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
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Date Posted: 00:12:37 10/02/07 ()
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Al-hamdu lillaahi rabbil-aalamiin--Thanks and Praise be to Allah, the cherisher and sustainer of the world.
Today is the 20th day In the holy month of Ramadan, true Muslims(not those who drink alcohol or smoke jamba)are advised to look for the night of power in the last ten(10)days of Ramadan.
In chapter 97 of the Quran, the Almighty Allah says:
BISMILLAAHIR-RAHMAANIR-RAHIIM.
INNAAA ANZALNAAHU FII LAYLATIL-QADR:
WA MAAA ADRAAKA MAA LAYLATUL-QADR?
LAYLATUL-QADRI KHAYRUM-MIN ALFI SHAHR.
TANAZZALUL-MALAAA-IKATU WAR-RUUHU FIIHAA
BI-IZNI RABBIHIM-MIN-KULLI AMR:
SALAAMUN HIYA HATTAA MATLA-IL-FAJR!
IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, MOST GRACIOUS,MOST MERCIFUL.
The angels revealed the massage from Allah in the night of power : The message is the Quran-the words of God sent to mankind as guidance.
Allah explains to us(true Muslims) what the night of power is.
Allah says- Worshipping him on the night of power is better than one thousand months. A thousand months is a little over 83 years.
Allah also says that he will instruct his angels to come down and watch those of us who will be worshipping him. He promises to reward us in his Janna(heaven).
Allah says, he will put his peace and mercy on all true Muslims(not those who smoke Jamba, drink alcohol and commit Zaina) on that night of power till rise of morn.
I encourage all my Muslim brothers and sisters to pray in this last 10 days of Ramadan for God's direction, protection and salvation.
I pray that the Almighty Allah will accept the prayers of all Muslims the world over.
RABBANAA LAA TUZIG QULUU BANAABA-
DA-IZHADAYTANAA WAHAB LANAA
MILLADUNKA RAH-MAH; INNAKA ANTAL-
WAH-HAAB. AMIN.
Subject: It did not start. It goes way--back. 1971 song.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 22:44:57 10/01/07 ()
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I'm still glad I'm still alive
Subject: Re: It did not start. It goes way--back. 1971 song.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 01:35:34 10/02/07 ()
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Bambay & Rasta man and Rasta woman,
Please check all the links carefully, I have not written this as an act of idleness:
Devarim/ Deuteronomy 33
1 And this is the blessing wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death.
2 And he said: The LORD came from Sinai, and rose from Seir unto them; He shined forth from mount Paran, and He came from the myriads holy, at His right hand was a fiery law unto them.
3 Yea, He loveth the peoples, all His holy ones--they are in Thy hand; and they sit down at Thy feet, receiving of Thy words.
The notes of my Soncino edition, edited by DR. J. H. Hertz C.H, late chief Rabbi of the British Empire reads:
“He loveth all peoples. i.e. the tribes of Israel. Cf Genesis xxviii,3. If the word “peoples” is taken literally, the meaning is that although the Divine Law was given to Israel alone, God’s love embraces all peoples. “The Lord is good to all; and His tender mercies are over all his works.” (Psalm cxlv 9)
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0533.htm
The Judaized and the Christianised African Diaspora has usually cast itself in the role of Israel / Israelites with regard to slavery and in the Western hemisphere where this enslavement took place, by way of identification Africans have usually identified with the children of Israel under the cruel Pharaoh who worked the children of Israel RIGOROUSLY.
The Back to Africa movements have often been premised on the EXODUS.
Marcus Garvey’s The Blacks Star line was a joint Israel-Ghana enterprise.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLJ_en-GBSE234SE234&q=The+Black+Star+line+an+Israel-Ghana+&btnG=Search&meta=
In perfect English, The First of the Ten Commandment revealed to Israel at Mount Sinai is:
“I am The Lord your God, Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.”
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLJ_en-GBSE234SE234&q=Torah%3A+the+ten+commandments
In the Jewish religion at Pesach the deliverance from slavery by the Mighty hand of HASHEM is celebrated.
It is one of the negative commandments - it is a forbidden for a Jew to dwell in Egypt, it is written in Devarim / Deuteronomy 17:16 “You shall henceforth return no more that way.”
The Chafetz Chayim comments on this “ IT is a negative commandment to not dwell in the Land of Egypt” in his “ The Concise Book of Mitzvoth” that “ for business and trade though, it is permitted, as there is no prohibition on anything but settling there.
Moreover it is forbidden to go out of the land of Israel to another land, except to study Torah or to take a wife, or to affect a rescue from the heathen; and so one may go abroad for commerce. But to leave in order to live aboard is forbidden, unless hunger has grown severe there. Whoever lives in the Land of Israel, his sins are forgiven him. Even if a person has walked four cubits in it, he merits life ion the world-to-come. SO too, if one is buried there, all his sins are atoned for.
Let a man ever live in the land of Israel, even in a city with a majority of heathen, and let him not live in another land, even in a city with a majority of Jews. For whoever goes out to another country, it is as though he worships in idolatry. And just as it is forbidden to go out of the land of Israel to another country, so it is forbidden to leave Babylonia (the centre of Talmudic learning) for other lands.
This is in effect at every time, for both man and woman.”
This is one of several commentaries on this negative commandment.
BBC - Religion & Ethics - Reggae and slavery Do you remember the days of slav'ry?)Burning Spear, Slavery Days
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLJ_en-GBSE234SE234&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Judaism:+Not+to+remember+the+days+of+Slavery&spell=1
Subject: Re: It did not start. It goes way--back. 1971 song.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 01:46:24 10/02/07 ()
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Sorry Bamabay,
To remember , but to not go that way again....
Subject: Re: It did not start. It goes way--back. 1971 song.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 02:05:14 10/02/07 ()
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Our excellent Sierra Leone brother, Sorious Samura's anti-slavery speech: can he have your attention please?
Subject: Re: It did not start. It goes way--back. 1971 song.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 01:35:55 10/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bambay & Rasta man and Rasta woman,
Please check all the links carefully, I have not written this as an act of idleness:
Devarim/ Deuteronomy 33
1 And this is the blessing wherewith Moses the man of God blessed the children of Israel before his death.
2 And he said: The LORD came from Sinai, and rose from Seir unto them; He shined forth from mount Paran, and He came from the myriads holy, at His right hand was a fiery law unto them.
3 Yea, He loveth the peoples, all His holy ones--they are in Thy hand; and they sit down at Thy feet, receiving of Thy words.
The notes of my Soncino edition, edited by DR. J. H. Hertz C.H, late chief Rabbi of the British Empire reads:
“He loveth all peoples. i.e. the tribes of Israel. Cf Genesis xxviii,3. If the word “peoples” is taken literally, the meaning is that although the Divine Law was given to Israel alone, God’s love embraces all peoples. “The Lord is good to all; and His tender mercies are over all his works.” (Psalm cxlv 9)
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0533.htm
The Judaized and the Christianised African Diaspora has usually cast itself in the role of Israel / Israelites with regard to slavery and in the Western hemisphere where this enslavement took place, by way of identification Africans have usually identified with the children of Israel under the cruel Pharaoh who worked the children of Israel RIGOROUSLY.
The Back to Africa movements have often been premised on the EXODUS.
Marcus Garvey’s The Blacks Star line was a joint Israel-Ghana enterprise.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLJ_en-GBSE234SE234&q=The+Black+Star+line+an+Israel-Ghana+&btnG=Search&meta=
In perfect English, The First of the Ten Commandment revealed to Israel at Mount Sinai is:
“I am The Lord your God, Who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.”
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLJ_en-GBSE234SE234&q=Torah%3A+the+ten+commandments
In the Jewish religion at Pesach the deliverance from slavery by the Mighty hand of HASHEM is celebrated.
It is one of the negative commandments - it is a forbidden for a Jew to dwell in Egypt, it is written in Devarim / Deuteronomy 17:16 “You shall henceforth return no more that way.”
The Chafetz Chayim comments on this “ IT is a negative commandment to not dwell in the Land of Egypt” in his “ The Concise Book of Mitzvoth” that “ for business and trade though, it is permitted, as there is no prohibition on anything but settling there.
Moreover it is forbidden to go out of the land of Israel to another land, except to study Torah or to take a wife, or to affect a rescue from the heathen; and so one may go abroad for commerce. But to leave in order to live aboard is forbidden, unless hunger has grown severe there. Whoever lives in the Land of Israel, his sins are forgiven him. Even if a person has walked four cubits in it, he merits life ion the world-to-come. SO too, if one is buried there, all his sins are atoned for.
Let a man ever live in the land of Israel, even in a city with a majority of heathen, and let him not live in another land, even in a city with a majority of Jews. For whoever goes out to another country, it is as though he worships in idolatry. And just as it is forbidden to go out of the land of Israel to another country, so it is forbidden to leave Babylonia (the centre of Talmudic learning) for other lands.
This is in effect at every time, for both man and woman.”
This is one of several commentaries on this negative commandment.
BBC - Religion & Ethics - Reggae and slavery Do you remember the days of slav'ry?)Burning Spear, Slavery Days
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLJ_en-GBSE234SE234&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=Judaism:+Not+to+remember+the+days+of+Slavery&spell=1
Subject: Titi Worwor, SLPP Arata Den, Unu Blow For Sabotage!
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 21:16:16 10/01/07 ()
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Seems as if the SLPP kiss-asscrats who applauded the rape of Sierra Leone by Kabba, Kanja, Karimu, Benjamin and and other selfish cabalists have shifted to the next phase in their campaign to wreck democracy in Salone. Led by the unbeautiful Sylvia Blyden, who believes that character assassination is journalism, these selfish antipatriots have been attacking and pillorying EBK even before he settled into his office. Kabba had the courtesy of a honeymoon. For Koroma, it is bonbs away, scorched earth strafing by these sorry partisans.
The same Sylvia Blyden who used to chop off our people's limbs, not with machetes, but with venal, inciteful words, as a top dog in Foday Sankoh's Ninja propaganda outfit, is now leading the charge to upend the president's agenda even before it takes off. The loathsome Sylvia Blyden who pimped herself off to the highest contract giver in the SLPP, who turned her newspaper rag into a winker and a nodder as the SLPP government systematically looted the treasury, who tried to incite tribal hostility to subvert democracy during the elections, who is now quoting anonymous, "competent sources" to lie about indecision and dissension in the EBK Statehouse, who is trying to spread hostility and fear among wilfully gullible SLPPers with disgusting rumours of strip searches of opposition spouses; this Sylvia, this TITY WORWOR is now being feted by the SLPP "bad faithers" as the Queen of Sheba, as the paragon of ethics. Beats me why the GOP of Salone will want to associate with this skunkish individual with a proclivity to self-aggrandizement and personal corruption. Is there a dearth of decenct leadership in the SLPP? Is this ugly mercenary now your leader? Please say it ain't so!
Subject: Re: Titi Worwor, SLPP Arata Den, Unu Blow For Sabotage!
From: M.Cole
To: All
Date Posted: 05:55:08 10/02/07 ()
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When will we never change how do you find time and write all these nonsense you just don’t make sense. I hope you using your lunch break to write this. So tell what has Kanja Sesay to destroy Sierra Leone, and I thought we live in a freedom of speech society so why you attacking people. If you think you can do better why don’t you just set up your own newspaper and write your masterpiece that will save the country because it seems like you have the worth of ideas my brother. Evethough the slpp was not one of the greatest govt we have seen but give them credit for making people of Salone became aware of their rights and how they can express it. Instead us sending back and forth messages of hate why don’t will come together work in hand to better the country its shame to read for of the things my people say in this forum whether you slpp or apc fanatic its wrong. I know for someone will say something stupid like 'oh he may be a beneficiary' but you are completely wrong. God Bless Salone
Subject: Re: Titi Worwor, SLPP Arata Den, Unu Blow For Sabotage!
From: Aruna sawa
To: All
Date Posted: 21:33:07 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: arunasowa2009@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: 5aca64f1.bb.sky.com at 90.202.100.241
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I think Sylvia is now the leader of SLPP, trust me bro. she will have the gut to contest for leadership position in the SLPP in their next convention. Her quest for self-aggrandizement is so deep that she can stop at nothing. She has done it once when she became the Deputy leader of one of the political parties that contested the 2002 Presidential Elections but because she was not given the chance to head the party, she dismantled the party and wrote all sort of slots against them before defecting to the SLPP. Indeed, she is the Queen of Sheba, the mother of Judas (escuse me she has no child and can never get one because she either pay for her...satisfaction or she satisfies people for profis),so she cannot be the mother of Judas for she is more than Eve.
Subject: Re: Titi Worwor, SLPP Arata Den, Unu Blow For Sabotage!
From: Kabudu Gen
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Date Posted: 21:47:04 10/01/07 ()
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Bro, this repulsive character Sylvia Dogface has been in the thick of most of contemporary subversive Salone history. It sickens me to see a mainstream party like the SLPP allow this egotistical witch drag it through the mud. Every decent being should be disgusted by the way she is trying to tarnish EBK, considering that the gentleman has extended olive branch after olive branch to her party.
Those deceptive SLPPers who have been applauding and sanctioning this hideous woman as she rampages through our common decency need to wear sack cloth and do penance.
Subject: Sylvia Blyden Again
From: Aruna sawa
To: All
Date Posted: 21:14:33 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: arunasowa2009@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: 5aca64f1.bb.sky.com at 90.202.100.241
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I am calling on all Sierra Leonean to beware of Sylvia Blyden the one time supporter of Foday Sankon, AFRC junta (Ninja Wed designer),and later became deputy leader ( hopefulpresidental running mate )for the YPP-Political party. She started abusing Tejan Kabbah until she was allowed to create the State House Website which gave her way in to the SLPP government with alot of contracts for computer and web designing for various ministries and adverts for her paper that was dudging incom tax.
She is still active in different fashion trying to distroy our country. Wake up Sierra Leonean!
Subject: Re: Sylvia Blyden Again
From: Do you have time?
To: All
Date Posted: 01:06:42 10/02/07 ()
Email Address: poah76@msn.com
Entered From: c-24-128-87-202.hsd1.ma.comcast.net at 24.128.87.202
Message:
In Awareness Evil, there are approximately 3-6 names showing up as debaters every day. It seems to me that the same person is triplicating names. Her audience are those locked up in the losing crisis so those who want to read material postings rather than trash talks know where to log in. My advice is do not waste you time on that website as your valuable time deserves some thing more worthy. The indoctrinated ones are there hiding behind northern names and funny names you do not find in this planet.
Subject: Wow! If cannot understand what you see, how much more.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:00:44 10/01/07 ()
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Thtas how I got here. From there to here. What are we thinking!
Subject: Last but not the least.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 19:49:46 10/01/07 ()
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Go to the last at the bottom but before you get there, stop at the White House and say hello.
Subject: Parliamentary session
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:55:24 10/01/07 ()
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Parliament ready for debate.
Subject: Ladies and gentlemen, His Excellency the President
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 18:50:30 10/01/07 ()
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Food for thought. Is this private or national jet?
Subject: Politics as a calling...............
From: Kalos
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Date Posted: 18:37:58 10/01/07 ()
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The silence from EBK about his pretentiousness and inactivity is deafening. What is really troubling is
the treatment he gave to Sam Sumana after the travel restrictions were announced by the VP’s office.
What is EBK apologizing for? God knows how much apology he wrapped around John Benjamin and
others. My gut feeling is we underestimated Sam Sumana; he may go down as one of the most
effective Vps in SL.
POLITICS AS A CALLING IS NEVER KIND TO INDECISIVE AND UNPREPARED LEADERS!
Subject: Re: Politics as a calling...............
From: TigerSheik
To: All
Date Posted: 01:24:51 10/02/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I think EBK is trying to play to much Mr.nice here like His predecssor Momoh. And if he continues like that he is definitely going to loose it all. His enemies are going to use this as a weapon against him.
I don't see any reason why he should be apologizing for this decision taken by his V.P. The V.P is on the right track bro. Aother Josepine Momoh? Hell no!
Subject: FALSE REPRESENTATION
From: EBOSIO
To: All
Date Posted: 18:02:54 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.195.162.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.195.162
Message:
It came as an uttermost surprise when I visited the forum this evening, only to relaize that a wretched individual thinks it appropriate to use my handle make his/her presentation. Man, you've got to know who you're dealing with before you dare make any attempt at using my pseudonym for your crude exercise. I hate to be misrepresented & this is exactly what you've done. I would like to make this abundantly clear beyond all forms of doubt or/and reasoning. DO NOT USE ME AS YOUR SCAPEGOAT. I am a cool & quiet person but if you are out looking for war, what I have to offer is ten times more than what happened in Hiroshima. If you want to put your face in your behind, you can do so with all due pleasure. But please do not use mine to represent your ugliness. I can trace you if I want to. My advice to you therefore, is to STOP ABUSING MY HANDLE NOW!!! Next time, my response would be practical and agressive to the absolute.
LONTA
Subject: Re: FALSE REPRESENTATION Corrected)
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 19:40:55 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Brother Ebosio,
So you have what’s worse than an arsenal of Weapons of mass destruction?
We fully understand that someone impersonating you could cause some damage to or even destruction of your reputation.
It’s enough to simply kick his ass or send him to the mental asylum to figure out exactly where he came from and what went wrong. It can be easily done, even there in Toronto, where I too have some good friends – who can do it, easily…..just a simple request.
I can understand your sense of outrage about some of these cowards and con-men who dare not use their own names but want to use yours to misrepresent you - but your extreme violence in speech, which usually leads or inspires violence in action, is simply not acceptable. Upon reflection, when you are in a much calmer state of mind, you should also come to that reasonable conclusion – far away from the poetic sense of what can be most dangerous – for the other – and that’s also a most amazing thing – a person’s inability to recognise danger just because he does not see or meet it face to face.
Poetic sense of Justice?
I saw a South African brother push a white man against a wall and insert a fully loaded Indian 32-caliber revolver inside the poor white man’s mouth and yell at him, “TALK!” “TALK!” All I saw was a dark patch that spread across the mid section of the white man’s pants, across his crotch down as the poor guy got profusely wet in his trousers and what could I do to save him? I could not irritate the brother in case he pulled the trigger…but I called his name in a plaintive voice and shouted NO!
Another time I went with Stellan an art teacher (now late) to some friends – they let him in but I was taken to a backroom and told – now you NEVER bring a Whitey here –etc…. this was right here in Stockholm, during the apartheid years……..institutionalised racism, political hatred, mistrust and distrust….. So what if the guy called himself Jesus or Santa Claus?
Mr. Shakespeare’s question and answer:
"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."
Sweeter speech still
Juliet:
'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;--
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What's Montague? It is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title:--Romeo, doff thy name;
And for that name, which is no part of thee,
Take all myself.”
HIROSHIMA was not a joke and sure it is also Solomon Berewa's birthday (August 6) and even my own wedding day, but the tragedy of HIROSHIMA should not be trivialised in the way that your language trivialises it - albeit unconsciously and wanting to give metaphorical power to your threat, when your say " I am a cool & quiet person but if you are out looking for war, what I have to offer is ten times more than what happened in Hiroshima.”
HIROSHIMA
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLJ_en-GBSE234SE234&q=HIROSHIMA&btn
Subject: Re: FALSE REPRESENTATION
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 19:33:08 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-278472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.39
Message:
Brother Ebosio,
So you have what’s worse than an arsenal of Weapons of mass destruction?
We fully understand that someone impersonating you could cause some damage to or even destruction of your reputation.
It’s enough to simply kick his ass or send him to the mental asylum to figure out exactly where he came from and what went wrong. It can be easily done, even there in Toronto, where I too have some good friends – who can do it, easily…..just a simple request.
I can understand your sense of outrage about some of these cowards and con-men who dare not use their own names but want to use yours to misrepresent you - but your extreme violence in speech, which usually leads or inspires violence in action, is simply not acceptable. Upon refection, when you are in a much calmer state of mind, you should also come to that reasonable conclusion – far away from the poetic sense of what can be most dangerous – for the other – and that’s also a most amazing thing – a person’s inability to recognise danger just because he does not see or meet it face to face.
Poetic sense of Justice?
I saw a South African brother push a white man against a wall and insert a fully loaded Indian 32-caliber revolver inside the poor white man’s mouth and yell at him, “TALK!” “TALK!” All I saw was a dark patch that spread across the mid section of the white man’s pants, across his down as the poor guy got profusely wet in his trousers and what could I do to save him? I could not irritate the brother in case he pulled the trigger…but I called his name in a plaintive voice and shouted NO!
Another time I went with Stellan an art teacher (now late) to some friends – they let him in but I was taken to a backroom and told – now you NEVER bring a Whitey here –etc…. this was right here in Stockholm, during the apartheid years……..institutionalised racism, political hatred, mistrust and distrust….. So what if the guy called himself Jesus or Santa Claus?
Mr. Shakespeare’s question and answer:
"What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."
Sweeter speech still
Juliet.
'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;--
Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
What's Montague? It is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Romeo would, were he not Romeo call'd,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title:--Romeo, doff thy name;
And for that name, which is no part of thee,
Take all myself.”
HIROSHIMA was not a joke and sure it is also Solomon Berewa's birthday (August 6) and even my own wedding day, but the tragedy of HIROSHIMA should not be trivialised in the way that your language trivialises it - albeit unconsciously and wanting to give metaphorical power to your threat, when your say " I am a cool & quiet person but if you are out looking for war, what I have to offer is ten times more than what happened in Hiroshima.”
HIROSHIMA
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&rlz=1T4GGLJ_en-GBSE234SE234&q=HIROSHIMA&btn
Subject: Equal Rights and Justice
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:55:50 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194116.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.116
Message:
Governor where are you!
Subject: Are you dancing?
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 17:48:09 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194116.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.116
Message:
Some are dancing on their feet
Subject: You nor see me Gobanor pan me? Gobanor, gobernor, yein.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:57:23 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194079.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.79
Message:
Central Bank Governor In 2 Billion Leones Contract Scandal....Deserted The Shores of Sierra Leone
Posted by on Sep 30, 2007, 16:54
The Central Bank Governor, Dr. J.D. Rogers is in a state of unhappiness and very shaky, not only because of the defeat suffered by his political party in the just concluded Presidential run-off elections but because of several financial misappropriation involving funds from the Central bank.
Governor Rogers has deserted the shores of Sierra Leone, for fear that he may be asked by the new administration to account for the billion Leones contract he allegedly awarded to friends and supporters of his party the Sierra Leone Peoples Party.
While the country’s bank governor may be living in a state of regret and disappointment, one of his beneficiaries Kabbah Kalu is living happily with no regret, and still hoping that more Central Bank contracts are on the way for him as long Dr. J.D.Rogers maintains his position at the bank as the state governor.
Kabbah Kalu is complacently living at his Main Motor road residence making regular telephone contacts with Dr. J.D.Rogers about the current political situation back home.
The Central Bank Complex Building at Kingtom that Kabbah Kalu allegedly received over two billion Leones to refurbish is currently in shamble and fast becoming an eye sore to the general public.
The contract for the refurbishment of the building was never advertised by the bank, according to inside bank sources, but was doled out to him because of his political affiliation and connection with the Bank Governor.
Central Bank sources say several contracts were awarded to contractors by Dr. J.D.Rogers that never took off the ground nor even complete.
Subject: Sierra Leone: As Speculation Grows On Koroma's Pending Cabin
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:51:20 10/01/07 ()
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Sierra Leone: As Speculation Grows On Koroma's Pending Cabinet Jenkins-Johnston Denies Rumor
Concord Times (Freetown)
1 October 2007
Posted to the web 1 October 2007
Abdul Karim Koroma
Freetown
Sierra Leone's legal luminary, Blyden Jenkin- Johnston has over the weekend denied knowledge of him being tipped to serve as Attorney General and Minister of Justice in President Koroma's pending cabinet
His denial came in the wake of speculations that he, Madam Zainab Hawa Bangura of the United Nations Mission in Liberia (UNMIL), Alhaji Ibrahim Ben Kargbo who is the President of the Sierra Leone Association Journalists (SLAJ), Samura Kamara, erstwhile Financial Secretary at the Ministry of Finance and Dr. John Tambi who worked with the Department of Transport in New York, will be in Koroma's cabinet.
Though he could not comment whether or not he would love to work in Koroma's cabinet, Jenkins- Johnston disclosed to Concord Times that he was not aware that President Koroma wants to appoint him as Cabinet Minister.
He adds, "A lot of people have told me that the President wants to appoint me a Minister but these are all rumors, which I will not like to comment on," and further stressed, "If the President wants to appoint me a Minister he will officially inform me." Sierra Leoneans expected Friday that the President was going to announce his cabinet but were left having to wait a little bit longer when he did not do so. In the interim, Ministers in the then SLPP government continue to work in their respective ministries.
Meanwhile, State Houses sources have hinted that Madam Bangura might likely be appointed as Foreign Affairs Minister but Concord Times could not reach her to comment as she is presently in Liberia working with the UN.
Other sources say the SLAJ president will be Koroma's Information Minister, Samura Kamara, Finance Minister, and Dr. Tambi as Transport Minister.
Subject: Who falsely acused Sylvia Blyden of being a Gov't Supplier?
From: Le Truth et seule Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 16:34:38 10/01/07 ()
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Sylvia Blyden starts Annual Vacation out of Sierra Leone
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Dr. Sylvia Olayinka Blyden, Publisher and Chief Executive of Awareness Times Newspaper last weekend flew out of Sierra Leone to start her annual seven weeks’ vacation. During this period, the 36-year old popular youth activist and business entrepreneur is expected to severally jet in and out of Sierra Leone but the newspaper’s handling and management will be undertaken by a management team and editorial board that has been put in place.
Meanwhile, Dr. Blyden has assured those who have misunderstood her recent editorial stances to mean she was a Government Contractor who needed protection from the government of the day.
"I have never bided or lobbied for any Government Contract or Supply contrary to what my detractors say. I make my money from simple local entrepreneurship in the private sector. There are so many ways to make money outside Government contracts. I have never gotten any Supply Contract and I don’t even ever want one," she said, adding that even the few websites her website company handles for the Government were not very significant in monetary terms.
About her current stance towards the Ernest Koroma led APC Government, she had this to say:
"For now, the reality is that Ernest Koroma is my President and as a patriotic Sierra Leonean citizen, he is assured of my fullest support, especially on the global stage but at the same time, he is 100% assured that I will always be his first public critic when he so deserves it," adding, "Both former President Kabbah and VP Berewa developed immense personal respect for me because I was not a bootlicker but publicly criticized them when it was due and praised and promoted them when necessary. Today, they can look back at my criticisms and reflect upon the veracity of what I was saying to them," Sylvia Blyden said.
Blyden ended by saying, "President Ernest Koroma and his team can expect the same from me. Nothing more. Nothing less. I am a true patriot who does not need a single cent or patronage from any Government to survive."
Dr. Sylvia Blyden has since left the shores of Sierra Leone and is presently in the United Kingdom.
Subject: Re: Who falsely acused Sylvia Blyden of being a Gov't Supplier?
From: Ninja Journalist Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 19:32:30 10/01/07 ()
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Entered From: ppp-68-90-9-181.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net at 68.90.9.181
Message:
Babu don runaway. Kabs won the battle and the war.
Viva la Cocorioko!!!
Subject: Re: Who falsely acused Sylvia Blyden of being a Gov't Supplier?
From: Le Truth et seule Le Truth
To: All
Date Posted: 16:41:04 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: accfbbd4.ipt.aol.com at 172.207.187.212
Message:
So sorry. I spelt accused wrong first time.
Subject: Re: Who falsely acused Sylvia Blyden of being a Gov't Supplier?
From: Aruna sawa
To: All
Date Posted: 19:29:23 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: arunasowa2009@yahoo.co.uk
Entered From: 5aca64f1.bb.sky.com at 90.202.100.241
Message:
OK, is that all? I know Sylvia Herself is using this false name but be it Sylvia (Ninja) or not this is my reply: If you are sure that you have never requested for a contract neither aworded a contract bu the SLPP government please write an open letter to the new APC government requesting them to investigate you inconnection with the said contract-gate.
Are you forgeting your Ministry of health contract which even exposed the then minister Abarto Thomas?, i think you set up the State house web free of charge(tenkie ma). If you don't stop bragging, we shall not hesitate to expose your dirty/fake contracts from 2004 to 2007, you forget that some of us were with you. DIS NINJA YASO.
Subject: SAM-SUMANA SWALLOWS HIS WORDS AS SLPP MINISTERS BARANTA
From: EBOSIO
To: All
Date Posted: 16:26:50 10/01/07 ()
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It has come to the notice of the Office of the Vice President that the press release about government officials needing to have security clearance from the Inspector General before leaving the shores of Sierra Leone has been either misunderstood, or deliberately misinterpreted.
We are going through a period of transition and before the new Government starts to function effectively, there must be a smooth handing over from the former Ministers to the new. This cannot be done properly if government officials, especially professionals, technocrats and those occupying strategic positions, decided to leave without performing the duties required of them by the Transition Management Team.
In any case, This is not the first time that Government officials are being asked to obtain security clearance before travelling out of the country. This regulation, which has been there all the time, only needs to be reinforced so that Government officials, can perform their assigned tasks before leaving the country as and when necessary.
The Government would therefore want to reassure the public that there is no intention to restrict the movement of Government officials for the purpose of witch-hunting, victimization or political harassment.
Subject: Re: SAM-SUMANA SWALLOWS HIS WORDS AS SLPP MINISTERS BARANTA
From: Bonthe Pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 18:27:08 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: bontilaynga@gmail.com
Entered From: 218-101-100-176.dialup.clear.net.nz at 218.101.100.176
Message:
Bo Ebisio you know more than that. Where did come across a retraction in that statement? This will not work, it's a feeble tactics. Get over the defeat and see things as it should be. There is nowhere in the world where a Minister leaves or travels overseas without the consent of the President. In fact that is gross fityai. Leh di man den sidon saful en do waetin den don tell dem for do in grace or brace. Anyone caught trying to smuggling himself out of the country without the relevant approval will face the full force of the law. LONTA!
Subject: Re: SAM-SUMANA SWALLOWS HIS WORDS AS SLPP MINISTERS BARANTA
From: Sam Sumana Nar Boy Pikin!
To: All
Date Posted: 16:49:07 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ool-4577fa15.dyn.optonline.net at 69.119.250.21
Message:
If you carefully read the press release, there is no swallowing of words. Sumana just stated the facts. How can you allow a thief to go and hide his loot before asking him if he has ever stolen anything?
The demagogues on this forum who are piling on the V.P for purely partisan purposes need to crawl back to their caves in shame.
All the damn SLPP ministers are greedy thieves and it will be insane to allow them to travel unrestricted to hide the millions overseas thereby making nonsense of the much vaunted accountability we have been hearing.
I hope the president develops the nerve to stand up to the bullying nastiness of that ogre Sylvia Worwor. The President should avoid folding like a cheap camera whenever criminal critics cynically scream whenever he attempts to do the right thing. In order words, the president should be like Sam.
Subject: Government & Money
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 15:47:50 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
How does government make money?
Subject: Re: Government & Money
From: Kack Chest Lek Bombali Granat Pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 21:28:46 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Print, baby, print!
Subject: SYLVIA IS A VERY DANGEROUS PERSON
From: Bonthe Pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 15:25:57 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: bontilaynga@gmail.com
Entered From: 218-101-100-252.dialup.clear.net.nz at 218.101.100.252
Message:
I have always maintained that until people like Sylvia Blyden are kicked away from S/L that country will know no progress. She has started again, this time trying to misuse President Koroma's courteousness for weakness. The Thorpe story is just one of her evil doings. The only way she thinks she could continue to get contracts or adverts from SLPP crooks is to write what they want to read. In as much as that is good we cannot tolerate any idiotic writings. What evidence has she got that the decision to search Mrs Karimu came from state house? Very soon she will begin to pay for her inciteful articles.
Subject: Re: SYLVIA IS A VERY DANGEROUS PERSON
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 15:34:22 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Bo.....
Ami nah unu all bin dey gladi when standard times broke the fake 2 ship res story and cocorioko the nyuma attempted assasination fake story..?
Even Hon Eanest saw it as political capital, but now a local newspaper and staff should be thrown out because they question the motives behind the cosiness between NEC top brass and our president and his leatherboots standing guard even though pa don lef.. ?
+ lack of protocal at presidential lourge?
I would say excellent investigative reporting.
Dont forget.. SLPP was hounded from all angle..
From this newspaper, vangaurd, awoko, to standard times..
Where was your voice of balance then?
Subject: Re: SYLVIA IS A VERY DANGEROUS PERSON
From: Amidu
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Date Posted: 15:48:54 10/01/07 ()
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how do you know that the "nyuma attempted assasination " is fake?
do you consider the making of baseless accusations "excellent investigative reporting."?
Subject: Re: SYLVIA IS A VERY DANGEROUS PERSON
From: Amidu lemp lemp
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Date Posted: 15:53:24 10/01/07 ()
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Same way you are thinking its true..
We got our news from the same source..the Pa.
shioirrrrrrrrrr
Subject: Re: SYLVIA IS A VERY DANGEROUS PERSON
From: Curious
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Date Posted: 15:50:27 10/01/07 ()
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What part is baseless in the report? That Leaderboot was keeping company with Christiana?
Subject: Re: SYLVIA IS A VERY DANGEROUS PERSON
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 15:54:41 10/01/07 ()
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No.. just cause it is not written in somerset..
and thus not from cocorioko.....
Nor men the ibo..
Subject: Re: SYLVIA IS A VERY DANGEROUS PERSON
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 15:54:18 10/01/07 ()
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No.. just cause it is not written in somerset..
and thus not from cocorioko.....
Subject: Re: SYLVIA IS THE ONE GOING TO SAVE SIERRA LEONE
From: NRA
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Date Posted: 15:48:06 10/01/07 ()
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Mark my words. Sylvia Blyden is the one to watch as far as the real saviour of Sierra Leone is concerned.
Subject: Re: SYLVIA IS THE ONE GOING TO SAVE SIERRA LEONE
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 15:50:29 10/01/07 ()
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Not going to go that far..
Just saying she has a voice, and she has people listening..
She has a tool she uses sometimes good, sometimes bad.. but to deny the fact that she has a voice in national debate is naive and hypocritical.
Subject: Re: SYLVIA IS THE ONE GOING TO SAVE SIERRA LEONE
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 15:57:34 10/01/07 ()
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We are in agreement bra, stay the koboko..
Just saying savior..?
Me nor know oh....
Subject: Re: SYLVIA IS THE ONE GOING TO SAVE SIERRA LEONE
From: NRA
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Date Posted: 15:52:13 10/01/07 ()
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Please let me have my say and you have yours. That is the beauty of democracy and freedom.
Subject: Re: SYLVIA IS A VERY DANGEROUS PERSON
From: Kpanabum
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Date Posted: 15:33:53 10/01/07 ()
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wise up dictator? whatever happened to the freedom of speech, or of the press or of freedom of expression?
Subject: WELCOME WOMEN'S PARTICIPATION ON THIS FORUM
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 14:55:30 10/01/07 ()
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It has always being perceived to be a rare occurence for women to participate fully alongside men when discussing the most important things partaining the development of our country.
In Sierra Leone, women are doing less at school, with few capable of accelerating to higher education. Such is the norm or is it that women are not so clever like their male counterparts?
Moreover, there's clear proof that women can do even better academically than men if given the opportunity, we see this in Europe where soceities are more tolerant of women's involvement.
In Britain, girls are doing better than boys at school and there are more women in universities than men.
However, this is the contrary in the Sierra Leonean communities both at home and in the diaspora. This is evident in the on going forum participation where men outnumbered women by ten folds.
Discussions are welcome to this issue.
Subject: Re: WELCOME WOMEN'S PARTICIPATION ON THIS FORUM
From: looks
To: All
Date Posted: 15:24:51 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: babylooks1@gmail.com
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Honestly, men need to stop treating their women as second-class citizens; this mentality came from the whole idea of women not allowed to participate. Now women have less interest in whatever the government is doing.
I am sure women are more concern with their family and their stability. We have to teach our young women that the government is one source that can improve all aspect that are concern with and the only way that can happened, they will have to participate and have inputs. To make it easy, if you help write the law, you know what you should do and what you should not. If you help build a bakery, you must expect to eat bread.
Subject: Re: WELCOME WOMEN'S PARTICIPATION ON THIS FORUM
From: Mbalu
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Date Posted: 15:21:46 10/01/07 ()
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Eddie Grant,
Not to dispute your statistics but do you have a solid reference for your second paragraph? Also, as far as I know there are no restrictions placed on girls going to school in Sierra Leone, ala Afghanistan. I also do not believe that the overall performance of Sierra Leonean females in academia (both at home and abroad) is less than that of males. The comparative statistics should take into account how many enter the system (females and males)versus how many exit the system successfully, i.e. graduate in record time.
In the U.S., for example, I donot think you have more educated Sierra Leonean males than females.......I think the opposite is true. As far as forum participation, I think it is more of a guy think just like watching a sports channell. Remember, we females still cook and clean for you guys. And you have the nerve to leave if the sex ain't great (which I squarely blame on FGM).
Subject: Re: WELCOME WOMEN'S PARTICIPATION ON THIS FORUM
From: Hassan Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 16:40:54 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: kamson10@hotmail.com
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Mbalu, i might not agree with the way you put accross your message particularly on a public forum like this, but i like you for your BOLDNESS
Subject: Re: WELCOME WOMEN'S PARTICIPATION ON THIS FORUM
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 15:57:17 10/01/07 ()
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Thank you very much for your response, but the problem is that Sierra Leone don't have the ability to record such things.
My information is based mainly on assumption and personal experiences. Mbalu it is evident that the only reliable statistics to corroborate my claim is national population census which clearly states that there are more females than males. So in a population predominantly females, we'll expect more female academics than males but this is the complete opposite.
We will agree to disagree on this.
Moreover, I'm not saying that there're restrictions on women to attain education but rather the norm in our soceity for women to get marry at an early age. It's further evident that women who marry do so to men at least a few years older than them
It's also evident that in some families, women are prevented by their families not to further their education as many believed that a woman's future is in the kitchen (ubsurd)whilst others beleived that women should always be under the control of their husbands (the absolute breadwiner).
Subject: Re: WELCOME WOMEN'S PARTICIPATION ON THIS FORUM
From: Satta
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Date Posted: 15:31:02 10/01/07 ()
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Mbalu, can you provide the evidence showing that in the U.S. you do not have more educated Sierra Leonean males than females? Or are trying make a feminist statement? Any way historically in Sierra Leone just as in many devloping countries in Africa, Asia, Europe and the Americas, women were just objects of sex. Some cultures have slowly moved fromthat now viz Europe, North America. However, in Afric and Asia, women are still sex objects, needed only to oil the engine, and kept back under the bed..
Subject: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: Cocorioko fan
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Date Posted: 14:29:58 10/01/07 ()
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Kabs, you need to clamp down on Sylvia Blyden to stop posting her trash here.Some of the self-serving articles are posted by her while some unprincioled persons post the others.
The articles are patent trash. How can she compare an honorable and npble person like Christiana Thorpe to the wife of a thief like Getrude Karimu ? Does she now how much Karimu and his wife have stolen from Sierra Leone ? We all sit down and allow this trash.
Sylvia Blyden has degraded herself and now she is dehrading everything in sight. She has degraded Sierra Leone journalism.She has degraded Sierra Leonean womanhood. Now she wants to degrade this forum. Please don't allow it. When we come to this forum, we come to read serious matters not degrading nonsense from a whore being blown around by every wind.
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 15:18:36 10/01/07 ()
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Quite frankly, I don't have a problem with what was published. That is press freedom at its finest! Funnily, I agree that our august NEC Chairperson should not be using the presidential lounge unless protocol dictates. Not being an expert on protocol, I cannot make a categorical statement, but on the face of it, the rank of Electoral Commissioner does not rise to use of the presidential lounge, unless of course permission was sought from and granted by State House. As for the treatment of Mrs Karimu, ahe is no longer a VIP and should therefore be subjected to the same security checks as the general public, perhaps even more so given that she is a spouse of an outgoing minister. She should have given up her diplomatic passport (I assume she has one) and other accoutrements of high office. People need to realize that status is conveyed by the authority of your position. If you lose the position, you are now an ordinary citizen. Welcome back to the harassment of ordinary people, Mrs Karimu!
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: NRA
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Date Posted: 15:34:56 10/01/07 ()
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KKW, Mrs. Karimu is the wife of the Commissioner General which is not a Minister position. John Karimu remains the Commissioner General of the National Revenue Authority and will remain that way whether the APC likes it or not.
ONLY the Parliament can remove John Karimu from that position and only upon proven misbehaviour.
GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT BEFORE YOU POST NEXT TIME.
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 15:46:41 10/01/07 ()
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I stand corrected. The thrust of my argument relates to all ex or soon to be ex government officials spouses.
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: KKW Take Note
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Date Posted: 15:56:57 10/01/07 ()
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Note also that if Karimu was already seated and waiting for her plane, she must have passed through security before which makes the re-searching even more malicious. We should stop the police acting on mere orders from above. The next thing, they will start arbitrary arrests based on orders from above. DAMN THIS NONSENSE
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: Candid Opinion
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Date Posted: 16:03:11 10/01/07 ()
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In most cases.. we the people are afraid to stand up to cowardly police officers who do not even understand the laws they are trying to enforce.
The last person i heard got this treatment was John Leigh. And he was a member of the ruling party..
Oh APC...black han..black han..
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: NRA
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Date Posted: 15:57:51 10/01/07 ()
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EXACTLY!!!!
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: SUBWANALAI
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Date Posted: 15:09:31 10/01/07 ()
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Dear Cocorioko Fan,
The article in question was actually posted by me, just to expose the divisiveness Sylvia Blyden is trying to foster amognst Sierra Leoneans. Some of us could have ignored her, but to remain silent is in some ways to consent. So simmer down bruv.
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:37 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
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I hate to defend but are they both Sierra Leoneans? If so, then they should be treated the same. Christina Thorpe is an employee of the Government or civil servant and John's wife is a business woman all from Sierra Leone. Why one shoud be treated better than the other? This is not John Karimu, its John Karimu's wife we are talking about. Some of us are insane o
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 15:05:27 10/01/07 ()
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This is not John Karimu, its John Karimu's wife we are talking about.
A man's secret deeds are closely safeguarded by his wife otherwise they are very easy to be divuldged.
This tells you that whatever the husband did during his tenure of office is well known to his wife. So why glorify someone whose involvement in government is under public suspicion.
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 15:31:00 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
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So what you are saying is that if you comit a crime by killing someone and you have a wife, both of you should go to jail? It is ok to search her but it is not ok to humiliate her just because she is someone's wife?. let us start to think beyound vigilantic ideas and help protech the women of Sierra Leone. These people have not been convicted of any crime other than speculation from jeleous people. Let us wait and see. All government officers in Sierra leone has something in their closet.
Have you seen the house of Samura Kamara who is to become the finance minister? I happened to be a guest there two years ago. I was dumb founded. By then he was just a financial security to the SLPP government. He was now working for the IMF making $270K a year. He is giving all that to go and become finance minister. What does that tell you? Let us all Pray for Salone. cause I may be insane.
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 16:27:43 10/01/07 ()
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Don't get me wrong please, your example doesn't correspond with my point. killing someone is completely different from keeping secrets.
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: Sylvia flees and now in soliloquy
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Date Posted: 14:33:38 10/01/07 ()
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Sylvia has fled Sierra Leone and in her rat hole, she is trying to polish her tainted name. This tarmagant called Sylvia Olayinka Blyden is running away. She is posting for herself.
Subject: Re: Kabs, don't be allowing Sylvia Blyden's nonsense here.
From: SUBWANALAI
To: All
Date Posted: 15:15:23 10/01/07 ()
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Possibly. But maybe, she is still in town trying to use her false journalistic tag to traffic her one nighter's (John Benjamin) documents. That is why she is calling attention to the vigilance of the airport security on her colleague WAGGG-(Wives and Girlfriends of Government Grabbers)
Subject: SYLVIA BLYDEN DRAWS FIRST BLOOD: IS THE CARNIVAL OVER?
From: SUBWANALAI
To: All
Date Posted: 13:49:00 10/01/07 ()
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WORHTHY QUOTE:
" BECAUSE THE FARM OWNER IS SLOW TO CATCH THE THIEF, THE THIEF CALLS THE FARM OWNER THIEF"- BY OLA ROTIMI (THE GODS ARE NOT TO BLAME)
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE FORUM, WHEN THE NATION WAITS ENDLESS HOURS FOR A CABINET THAT WAS NOT TO BE; WHEN STORIES ABOUND OF A CERTAIN SERRY-KAMAL BEEN THE REASON FOR THE DELAY OF A CABINET ANNOUNCEMENT; WHEN THE VP FIRES THE TRIGGER AND PREZO PULLS BACK. WHAT IS AMIST? BUT WHEN A SUSPECT CRIMINAL LIKE SYLVIA BLYDEN BECOMES THE DANIEL THAT HAS COME TO JUDGEMENT AND IS MADE BOLD TO DOUBT THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE PRESIDENT IN A TRIVIAL MATTER THAT INVOLVES WHICH CITIZEN SIERRA LEONEANS DEEM FIT TO RECEIVE A RED CARPET, THEN IT BECOMES APPARENT THAT PREZO SHOULD SIT UP AND ROLL HIS SLEEVES. NOW, READ SYLVIA BLYDEN'S VERDICT UNDER THE FICTICIOUS NAME OF "OUR PSECIAL CORRESPONDENT"
Is Ernest Koroma serious? The treatment of Christiana Thorpe and John Karimu's Wife
By Our Special correspondent
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Dr. Christiana Thorpe, the Chair of the National Electoral Commission last weekend returned back to Sierra Leone on board a Kenyan Airways flight to be treated like Royalty whilst Mrs. Gertrude Karimu, the wife of the Commissioner of the National Revenue Authority(NRA) Dr. John Karimu, got the embarrassment of her life at the same airport whilst she was waiting to travel out of Sierra Leone on one of her regular business trips.
Dr. Thorpe, who returned last weekend, had previously flown out of the country on the same day that President Ernest Koroma, Lawyer Charles Margai and delegation had flown out on a three-nation tour of Guinea, Liberia and Burkina Faso.
On the day that Dr. Thorpe was flying out, since the Presidential Entourage was also flying out, she was, contrary to established protocol, allowed to be seated together with the Koroma delegation in the secluded Presidential Lounge located a quarter of a mile from the main airport bowl. After President Koroma flew out on that day, she continued waiting in the Presidential Lounge in the company of retired Idrissa Kamara (alias Leatherboot). Leatherboot, a close security aide to President Koroma, waited until Dr. Thorpe flew out before he left the airport for Freetown.
Although it was not usual for the Presidential Lounge to be used by anyone other than a visiting Head of State or visiting Royalty, since Christiana Thorpe coincidentally happened to be flying on the same day that President Koroma was traveling and given the excellent rapport between the two individuals, no eyebrows had been raised.
However, to the consternation of many at the airport last weekend, upon Thorpe’s return back to the country last Friday around 23:00GMT, she was picked up right from the Kenyan Airways flight in the thick darkness of the night, by a tinted black jeep and transported quietly into the secluded Presidential Lounge from where she sent her passport and baggage documents to the main bowl for processing. She was then driven from the Presidential Lounge bound for Freetown thus completely bypassing the main bowl.
This move to allow Dr. Thorpe to use the secluded Presidential Lounge has been condemned by experts in correct national protocol.
"We have a VIP Lounge at Lungi Airport for respected, distinguished personalities like Dr. Christiana Thorpe. The Presidential Lounge is only for use by the President, the Vice President, their immediate family and visiting Heads of State. Dr. Thorpe is not related to President Ernest Koroma as far as we know nor is she the President or Vice President. She should not be given such access," a retired civil servant explained protocol procedures.
Even as Thorpe was being given the royal treatment at the airport, the wife of Dr. John Aruna Karimu, the Commissioner General of the NRA was being roundly molested and embarrassed.
Our investigations show that Mrs. Gertrude Karimu had already checked in at the airport last Thursday and was in the Lounge waiting for her flight when she was publicly requested to report to the operatives of the Office of National Security (ONS) and Sierra Leone Police (SLP) for questioning.
Mrs. Gertrude John Karimu was escorted amidst prying eyes to the ONS office where she was accused of smuggling "important Government documents" out of the country as well as "gold and diamonds" on behalf of her husband.
Mrs. Gertrude John Karimu is a well traveled international businesswoman who runs a host of business interests and is also the local representative for at least one international company who deal in hair products. She is a hardworking entrepreneur who regularly travels out of the country on business.
At the ONS office, despite her protestations otherwise, she was accosted and subjected to a body search for "gold and diamonds", her entire bag was turned upside down on to a table and all the papers and documents found in her possession were seized.
Indications are that it was her fast thinking to telephone her husband that saved her from even more embarrassment and molestation as it emerged that it was telephone calls by her husband to retired Brigadier Kelli Conteh of the ONS and IG Brima Acha Kamara of the Sierra Leone Police that eased the molestation Gertrude Karimu suffered. However, this was not before she was subjected to a through body and baggage search that yielded absolutely nothing. The intervention of her husband allowed her seized documents to be handed over to her but not before they were all photocopied.
"Mrs. Karimu was not traveling with any gold or diamonds and the documents we photocopied from her were just her private business documents. I feel bad about the needless harassment she faced but it was orders from above and we had to carry it out," an ONS operative explained to this newspaper upon condition of anonymity.
When contacted for their comments, police officers at the airport refused to comment except to state that they got "orders from State House" to search Mrs. Gertrude Karimu for gold, diamonds and secret documents she was traveling with. They however all conceded that their search of John Karimu’s wife yielded absolutely no gold, no diamond and no secret government documents in her possession.
Of special interest in the Gertrude John Karimu molestation incident is that it has heightened fears amongst those who openly campaigned against the APC and Ernest Bai Koroma in the last elections that the reconciliatory words of President Koroma and the smooth assurances from his Spokesman, Alpha Kanu were merely smokescreen for a more sinister game-plan that the APC planned to unfold against members of the former ruling SLPP.
This growing discomfort is particularly poignant as it comes in the wake of reports of an increase in the levels of intimidation of SLPP supporters in Kailahun District and a curious re-opening of case files of complaints by APC supporters against SLPP supporters in the district. Most of the case files being reopened by the police in Kailahun are dated several months back. Kailahun is an SLPP stronghold and also the home of Dr. John Karimu.
"Look at all the molestation and violence going on against SLPP people? I wonder if Ernest Koroma is really serious about this reconciliation talk he speaks of? Ernest Koroma probably believes he can fool Sierra Leoneans by bringing in those fifth columnists in the last SLPP Government into this his new Government and announce them as legitimate opposition members of a so-called National Unity Government whilst he clamps down on the real SLPP supporters but time will tell," a strong critique of the APC stated last weekend upon hearing of the Gertrude Karimu incident.
Meanwhile, following the low-key, hidden arrival of Christiana Thorpe into and out of the airport, many supporters of the ruling All People’s Congress, who were present at the airport expressed disappointment at her behaviour as they had wanted to see her in person and cheer her for a "job well done" whilst SLPP supporters could be heard making remarks that if Thorpe had really done a good job, she should have no reason to turn herself into a "Nicodemus" hiding in the dark but should emerge in public to face everyone and look at them in their faces.
Subject: Re: SYLVIA BLYDEN DRAWS FIRST BLOOD: IS THE CARNIVAL OVER?
From: looks
To: All
Date Posted: 15:09:56 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: babylooks1@gmail.com
Entered From: static-71-249-211-200.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.249.211.200
Message:
If what you said really happened I feel really bad for the lady. I do not believe that the president or his staff at the white house will asked employee at the airport to embarrassed any citizen. The security may have done this by themselves and accusing the President or his party of doing this could be wrong allegation.
I am sure we are all aware of the embarrassment that the SLPP ministers went through right after APC was declare winner of the election. And President Ernest Koroma apologized for the embarrassment and stated that he did not asked anyone to embarrass the ministers. If he did that, what makes you think that he asked for the embarrassment of the Mrs. Karimu? I do not believe it. Think about it.
Subject: Re: SYLVIA BLYDEN DRAWS FIRST BLOOD: IS THE CARNIVAL OVER?
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 14:01:14 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
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I may be insane but when someone wirtes with capital letters on this forum is realy insane. Incase you don't know I will forgive you but any body who communicate in all campital letters mean the person is really really Mad at some one. Unless you are mad at all of us in this forum please reduce the amount of you cap letter so we can understand when reading you posting better.
Subject: Re: SYLVIA BLYDEN DRAWS FIRST BLOOD: IS THE CARNIVAL OVER?
From: SUBWANALAI
To: All
Date Posted: 14:11:27 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Get on with your insanity. Don't drag me there, 'coz I don't wanna be there. CRASEMAN!
Subject: Re: SYLVIA BLYDEN DRAWS FIRST BLOOD: IS THE CARNIVAL OVER?
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 14:18:11 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Me a crase but na you vex pa all man we we nor do you natin a bo! Me e you wu da crase SUBWANALAI!
Subject: Re: SYLVIA BLYDEN DRAWS FIRST BLOOD: IS THE CARNIVAL OVER?
From: Hassan Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 14:40:22 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: kamson10@hotmail.com
Entered From: dsl092-165-252.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net at 66.92.165.252
Message:
What is wrong in searching someone?
Subject: Re: SYLVIA BLYDEN DRAWS FIRST BLOOD: IS THE CARNIVAL OVER?
From: SUBWANALAI
To: All
Date Posted: 14:35:54 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Sadam Insane. Ah omohjuba bra. Ah nor lek for make plaba with me compin. Leh we tink somtin serious now. If you gree for tru troway kole wata leh de case don
Subject: Re: SYLVIA BLYDEN DRAWS FIRST BLOOD: IS THE CARNIVAL OVER?
From: Sadame Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 14:58:18 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
You na true salone person. I glady for that. I have read most of your postings and they are very interesting to read by the way. One of the few once in this forum that make sence. Lets be cool.
Subject: Re: SYLVIA BLYDEN DRAWS FIRST BLOOD: IS THE CARNIVAL OVER?
From: SUBWANALAI
To: All
Date Posted: 15:05:52 10/01/07 ()
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NA SO EE FOR BEE. Our enemy should be unprogressiveness. Thanks once again for accepting the olive branch
Subject: FOR SIERRA LEONE PROSPERITY CLINTON OR OBAMA
From: looks
To: All
Date Posted: 13:47:47 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: babylooks1@gmail.com
Entered From: static-71-249-211-200.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.249.211.200
Message:
Very soon, America will hold another election for its commander in chief. The politicians are campaigning presently to gain party leadership for the White House. The candidates also want endorsements from foreign countries. Who do we (Sierra Leoneans) have in mind? The white lady (Clinton) as the first woman to be the commander in chief for the United Stated of America or the black man (Obama) to be the first black man to be the commander in chief for the United States of America. We have to support someone that will help our nation succeed by supporting us.
Subject: Ernest Koroma's Moment of Indecision in Sierra Leone
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 13:45:05 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
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Although the Parliament is all set to start working on approving the names of the members of cabinet of the new President of Sierra Leone, President Ernest Bai Koroma has still not announced any name yet.
Awareness Times has learnt that the reason for his indecisive state is that he is being pulled by many forces who all contributed towards his victory.
An example is that although the name of the new Minister of Finance was expected last weekend, it now appears that there is a mild tussle between the choice of the head of a local Accounting Firm against the choice of the executive head of a local bank. The former, a professional accountant who once led the local Accounting Professional body, is reported to be strongly preferred by President Ernest Koroma but he is also reported to be facing very stiff opposition from APC insiders who cite that his pedigree was not pure APC.
Following an Op-Ed by Dr. Sylvia Blyden, this newspaper's publisher last week which called for a strengthening of democracy in Sierra Leone by rejecting the United Nation's ERSG Victor Angelo's favoured National Unity Government, there are currently strong opinions in favour of Dr. Sylvia Blyden's position against Victor Angelo's own position which favours the inclusion of non-APC loyalists from the opposition into the Koroma cabinet.
"Angelo's position as given in his recent interview to Reuters is tantamount to weakening the practise of democracy in Sierra Leone. Let Ernest Koroma run Sierra Leone with a pure APC cabinet and let all non-APC members go back to strengthen their own political parties for the upcoming Local Government Elections," Sylvia Blyden opines.
© Copyright by Awareness Times Newspaper in Freetown, Sierra Leone.
Subject: Re: Ernest Koroma's Moment of Indecision in Sierra Leone
From: Kabudu Gen
To: All
Date Posted: 21:35:19 10/01/07 ()
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Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
Shame on you for peddling this witch's hideous ptopaganda on this decent forum. To be ugly of face is one thing but to be ugly of heart also is, well, grimy!
Subject: Re: Ernest Koroma's Moment of Indecision in Sierra Leone
From: looks
To: All
Date Posted: 14:09:48 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: babylooks1@gmail.com
Entered From: static-71-249-211-200.nycmny.east.verizon.net at 71.249.211.200
Message:
I pray that our country is governed wisely by our newly elected president and that the children of Sierra Leone will be are able to come outside once again in the spirit of love and happiness. I pray that we all will live once again in Sierra Leone together as brothers and sisters.
In regards to the issue of ministerial position, I pray that God guide our leader in making a right choice for the nation. We the citizens have to encourage and respect whatever choice our leader makes. We have to support our representatives and also be active in what goes on within our nation. The APC has been declared the winner of the election, if they improved the nation we all will be winners and if the deceive the nation and take us back to the history of brutality and bad leadership, we are all losers.
Therefore, for a government to be able to be a stable and an effective government, the citizens have to be part of that government. Let us join our leaders and most of all pray for them all to be able to see the nation as one nation and guide by God so we all will one day rejoice and sing happy songs. Martin Luther King Jr. once predicted “WE SHALL OVER COME” I say if we all work together we will be singing “WE HAVE OVER COME.”
Subject: EX-OFFICIALS - A DISTRACTION
From: KKW
To: All
Date Posted: 12:34:13 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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I had suggested in a response to an earlier post that there is little to be gained in hunting down corrupt government officials (and Minister's) this early into a new administration. While the desire for payback is understandable, I still maintain that Sierra Leone is rich enough to replace those stolen millions. I'm not saying that people should be allowed to get away with robbing the nation, but the honest truth is that almost EVERYONE and EVERYTHING in Sierra Leone is hopelessly corrupt. Hunting down scapegoats is an unnecessary distraction and is better left until a full audit has taken place and we can devote resources to prosecuting the worst offenders. The world is now a very small place. They can run, but they can't hide. If president Koroma is serious about turning things around, his first 100 days should be spent looking forward and setting a new tone. Otherwise the whole civil service will be distracted by (a) coveriung their tracks and (b)collecting data for various investigators. Audits are time consuming and often inconclusive except in the most blatant of cases. Instead of wasting money paying KPMG to investigate past crimes, pay them to set up proper accountability amd internal controls for the future.
Subject: Re: EX-OFFICIALS - A DISTRACTION
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:44:16 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
There we go..
Sensible.. and to the point..
Excellent read my brother..
Subject: Re: EX-OFFICIALS - A DISTRACTION
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 13:17:21 10/01/07 ()
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Word! Those corrupt officials who have looted the hundreds of millions should never be allowed to go scot-free! The stolen booty lolling in air-conditioned vaults abroad must be assidiously hunted down and returned (hopefully not to be looted yet again by the hunters!).
However, this is not the time for that. The president must concentrate 100% on solving at least one intractable problem in his first 100 days. I vote for electricity as issue one. If there is tangible progress on this issue, the president will gain the credibility, stature and moral authority to go after the criminal sharks.
Mr. President, let KPMG do a thorough audit; equip the ACC with iron teeth. In the mean time get results that the people can sink their teeth into. That way you will have the necessary constituency to deflect accusations of witch-hunting by Sylvie Baby and her ilk.
Subject: BABYBOB
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 12:10:42 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194093.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.93
Message:
Yes unite.
Subject: SLeone restricts travel of ex-officials for corruption probe
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 12:05:07 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194093.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.93
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SLeone restricts travel of ex-officials for corruption probe
2 hours ago
FREETOWN (AFP) — Sierra Leone's two-week-old government said Monday it would restrict officials from the previous administration from leaving the country while it carries out a department-wide corruption probe.
Everyone from ex-cabinet ministers to state company chiefs will require police clearance to travel abroad while a 60-strong team of experts carries out an audit of the last government, officials said.
"Since the transition team set up by the government is auditing all government ministries, departments and agencies, it would be in the interest of these officials if they stay around in order to enhance a healthy transition," police chief Brima Acha Kamara said.
Sierra Leone's newly-elected president, Ernest Bai Koroma, was sworn in on September 17 after storming to office vowing to stem widespread corruption.
The outgoing government of Ahmad Tejan Kabbah, in office for 10 years, is blamed for widespread corruption and economic mismanagement in the resource-rich but desperately impoverished west African country.
Presidential spokesman Alpha Kanu said the anti-corruption team was taking "stock of the present situation in the machinery of government including assets, liabilities, mesures and actions awaiting implementation".
Kanu said the president is personally paying the panel of 60 professionals who have until October 5 to present a report on their findings.
"Except a person (who) has a case to answer, I have no reason to refuse clearance to leave the country," added police chief Kamara.
Security officials have in the meantime "stepped up searches on all departing and arriving passengers as a routine measure", one officer told AFP on condition of anonymity.
Amnesty International and Britain, the former colonial power and the main external backer of Sierra Leone's drive against corruption, have condemned the outgoing government for failing to tackle the problem.
The diamond-rich country has this year slipped eight positions on the Transparency International corruption index to 150 out of 179 countries, from 142 last year.
Subject: VP is a lier
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 11:27:10 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Mr. VP make sure you consult your boss before authorizing any one to get police clearance, be it minister or civil servant. You are making the president looks bad and when you get cut, then you twisted you words. What is the difference? minister or civil servant, non of them are creminals. Are you an immegration officer now? Please learn the job. You are new in politic. Don't let power fool you. We are all wathing to see how all of you perform in the fist 100 days. Well it is not 100 days any more because you people have just waisted 10 days with no results. Is that the results you boss was aluding to. Do nothing result? Please!! nor lie pa we again.
Subject: Re: VP is a lier
From: Majay Tong
To: All
Date Posted: 11:34:20 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Sadam Insane,
You are insane and needs to go to school first before writing your botho batha.
Subject: Re: VP is a lier
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 11:49:09 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
You are so majay that you don't know what you are talking about either. Your nincompoop. Your VP is a lier. If you don't like it, tough bro.
Subject: Re: VP is a lier
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 11:58:02 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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I think this is one the best move so far that guaranteed accountability. This is not to say that former government officials are criminals or are guilty of coruption but it's indicate that the new government is not going to idle about and let people take them for a ride.
ACCOUNTIBILITY the time is coming nearer to allow everyone to give an account of what they've being doing during their tenure of office.
Subject: THE VP MIGHT BE THE ACTION MAN WE NEED
From: SUBWANALAI
To: All
Date Posted: 12:27:26 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 194.32.41.72
Message:
If these flip flopping doing the rounds is true, then I believe the President rather than the VP should check his head. The VP has a job to do. He is at present the head of a transition team mandated to asses government ministries, with the arduous task of taking inventries and collating information on assets. Which means, he is in a better position than the President, (who is skiving; seeing those same old delegations),to know who are at their desks and those who have absconded. And let us all remember that the transition committee has a time limit to submit it's reports. How is this going to be achieved? By chasing government officials abroad? Ernest Koroma has got to be careful.
P/S: What has happened to the Vice President-led investigations into the vandalisation of the SLPP's HQ? You see, the VP for now has plenty in his plate. The President clearly has not.
Subject: Re: THE VP MIGHT BE THE ACTION MAN WE NEED
From: RAT HOLE
To: All
Date Posted: 14:49:32 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-71-187-64-127.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.64.127
Message:
You dummy idiot.You call my vice president one time lyer I will send you a forst class ticket to yogoslyvia.Your IP adress should be yank good bye.
You bozo ni-com-pop stupido-head.
Subject: MEET AN HONEST SIERRA LEONEAN
From: Saidu Kaye
To: All
Date Posted: 10:48:44 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Sorie Fofanah, is the Information Attache at the Sierra Leone High Commision in London. Since he went into politics, I have always perceived him sceptically untill I discovered this. Culled from www. christian-monitor.org(Respect Charlo!):
Open Letter To President Ernest Koroma
Features - Features
Written by Sorie Fofanah, Information Attache' UK.
Monday, 01 October 2007
Your Excellency,
Let me join the long list of well-wishers to congratulate you, most heartily, on your election as President of the Republic of Sierra Leone. I did not vote for you neither did I vote for your APC party. But suffice it to say that your election as President is a watershed in the politics of Sierra Leone.
You rescued the APC party from relative obscurity to make it electable in 2007, fifteen years after it was brutally removed from power by the military junta of Captain Valentine Strasser in 1992.
As President, you have to be your own man. You have to be man enough to resist the unending pressure coming from self-seeking political commentators.
I have read rims and rims of newspaper articles calling on you not to include SLPP members in your Cabinet. Or, rather, not to form what I would call an all inclusive cabinet.
Why An Inclusive Cabinet
Before you were elected President, you made a solemn promise to the nation, through some newspaper interviews, that if you were elected President, you would form an all inclusive cabinet. You said or rather you were quoted to have said in one of those interviews that you were determined to unite the country.
My question to you then and now is: how do you intend to unite the country? There are people around you who believe that your election as President should be seen as an election for change. Winner takes all!
When President Alhaji Dr. Ahmad Kabbah was re-elected President in 2002, I asked him this question: how is your new cabinet going to look like. Do you intend to form a government of national unity or an all-inclusive cabinet. His answer was: You wait and see.
Follow Kabbah’s Example
President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah made sure that throughout his presidency, he carried himself as a Statesman and not as a Politician. On a number of occasions, he made it known, both privately and publicly that people had lost fate in politicians because of broken promises. He knew very well that the only way he could continue to enjoy the confidence and support of the people was by behaving like a true Statesman that he was.
The appointments he made into the cabinet, commissions, parastatals and diplomatic missions clearly point to the fact that President Tejan Kabbah was far above party politics. In 1998, when he returned from exile in Guinea, Conakry, he wrote an open letter to the SLPP pointing out, in short, that he was President of Sierra Leone and not President for the SLPP alone. Why did he say so? President Tejan Kabbah was under tremendous pressure from some silver-haired SLPP grandies not to appoint people from outside the party to very sensitive positions in government.
When I interviewed him in 2002 and asked him why he had only one Madingo-speaking Minister in his entire Cabinet, President Kabbah said to me: Look, Sorie, I cannot afford to run this country alone. I have to bring in other people from other tribes, other regions and other political persuasions to help me run this country. Mind you, I cannot afford to run this country like my other predecessors, Joseph Saidu Momoh and Captain Valentine Strasser. It will be a recipe for chaos.
By the way, in 2002, the only Madingo-speaking Cabinet Minister was Alhaji Mohamed Basiru Daramy (MBD) now a senior ECOWAS Commissioner.
Mr. President, to speak frankly, you can only succeed as President if you bring other well-meaning Sierra Leoneans into your government, no matter their tribes or political affiliations.
The Kanja Sesay Example
In February this year, I visited Freetown and had the privilege of meeting President Kabbah in a very relaxed mood at State Lodge. I asked him why he was not supporting Kanja Sesay for the Runningmate slot. He said to me: Sorie, I am a Madingo and Kanja Sesay is a Madingo too. Naturally, you would expect me to support him. But I will not support him because I don’t want to be seen to be promoting tribalism in this country at such a high level. I am leaving office this year, and I should not be seen to be promoting another Madingo to become the second-most important politician in this country. It would look like the country was slowly reverting to the “Ekutay” era of Joseph Momoh.
Politics of Compensation
I have said repeatedly that we have to do politics in the grown-up way. Yes, politics is all about loyalty. You compensate people who show undying loyalty to you. I personally benefited from the politics of compensation. I was and still I think I am one of President Kabbah’s best friends and loyalists. I supported him solidly in his ambition to be re-elected President in 2002. Immediately after that year’s elections, in which he convincingly defeated you and your APC party, I was compensated with a diplomatic appointment. An appointment that I still continue to hang-on to even after the defeat of the SLPP. I am very grateful to you, Mr. President, for keeping me in post this long.
I know there are people out there who would be telling you to order my immediate recall to Freetown. Your Journalist friends, I mean. In my heart of hearts, I know that I would not survive as Information Attaché under an APC led-administration. And my mind is made up on that. But that is a fact of life.
My Interaction with you
I have known you since you were Managing Director of Ritcorps, an insurance outfit. Do you still remember my first meeting with you in your office? When I first met you, I knew that you were a very peaceful person. You told me a lot about yourself and your ambition to become a full-time politician. I was still editor of one of Sierra Leone’s leading newspapers the “New Vision”.
You extended another invitation to me to visit you at your Goderich residence. When I met you at night, in your natural habitat, I concluded that you were a kind-hearted and perfect gentleman. You introduced me to your mother, whom I met in the house and you took me on a conducted tour of your very magnificent house. I still have fond memories of those two meetings.
When I was involved in a gruesome road accident in Kenema, you sent me $100 (one hundred united states dollars) and you phoned me when I was still admitted to hospital. I am very grateful to you for that. Over and beyond that, each time you visited London (from 2002 – to 2006) you phoned me to say you were around. I am very proud of that.
My Recall Is Imminent
I am in no way trying to beg you to keep me here in London. My retention here is clearly at your discretion. I am not APC and I don’t intend to become APC. But I will work for the good of the country until it pleases you to order my replacement. Period.
My advice To You
Try as best as possible, Your Excellency, to portray yourself as a Statesman and not as a Politician. Mind you, all political careers end in failure. You now have the opportunity and the goodwill of the international community to turn around our country. Please, please do not squander this golden opportunity.
Politics, you once reminded me, is all about making a difference in people’s life. If you fail to make a difference now, history will not deal kindly with you. Mark my word, Your Excellency! Mind you, the buck stops at your desk. May God guide you and may you take decisions in the best interests of Sierra Leone.
God Bless you.
Subject: Re: MEET AN HONEST SIERRA LEONEAN
From: Normenam
To: All
Date Posted: 13:02:04 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Saidu, I think you just feel sorry for this scum. He shall pay for his sins. Lontha.
Subject: Re: MEET AN HONEST SIERRA LEONEAN
From: tasteless
To: All
Date Posted: 10:58:59 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 41.205.26.250
Message:
This letter would have been in a good taste, if it was written privately.Now, this is beginning to look like a campaign, to retain the job.
Subject: Re: MEET AN HONEST SIERRA LEONEAN
From: Saidu Kaye
To: All
Date Posted: 11:08:11 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 194.32.41.72
Message:
You think so? Maybe. But what i appreciate the writer has done here is give his merits and demeits to the reading public, and allow them, including the government to judge him. If he is worthy to retain his job why not. That he is not prepared to sit at a table and fudge lies that he supports the APC speaks volumes.
Subject: Re: MEET AN HONEST SIERRA LEONEAN
From: Sorie is SLPP
To: All
Date Posted: 16:05:19 10/01/07 ()
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Entered From: accfbbd4.ipt.aol.com at 172.207.187.212
Message:
He will not be able to fudge such lies because everyone will laugh at him. He is SLPP as much as Berewa and any attempt to call himself APC will backfire. I hope the letter will allow him to stay in office in London for a short while more.
Subject: ERNEST KOROMA APOLOGISES TO SLPP MINISTERS
From: News Flasher
To: All
Date Posted: 09:09:44 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 87-194-64-12.bethere.co.uk at 87.194.64.12
Message:
President Koroma has apologised to SLPP Ministers for the embarassment they went through with that unendorsed press release that claim State House ownership. Koroma never issued such a directive asking Ministers to seek Police Clearance and he is highly embrassed by the Release. Samsumana who actually ordered the release now says he never mentioned the word Ministers but only said civil servants. State House is in a solemn but confused state this morning especially after the Sylvia Blyden's Awareness Times bombshell this morning on their front page which blasted Ernest Koroma as a hypocrite saying one thing and doing another such as molestation of John Karimu's wife and all that.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA APOLOGISES TO SLPP MINISTERS
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 11:48:54 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 165.155.200.143
Message:
Can someone show me the link where the info above can be verified? I definitely didn't see it on the Awareness Times website.
Help please!
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA APOLOGISES TO SLPP MINISTERS
From: Neut Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 10:51:11 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
It is but fair, for President to apologise to all concerned.It is a stich in time.
By the way, even if the instructions to molest all the SLPP Ministers and their wives came from his vice President, it is bad enought, as he is risponsible for all the actions of his VP.
Rumours were beginning to spread that all Ministers will be put under house arrest.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA APOLOGISES TO SLPP MINISTERS
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 09:59:57 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
While Cocorioko is minute by minute taking over where alpha (hajj money) khan left off as the APC spokesman.
Mr Revo.. and your sidekick Mr Alieu (all kind excuse for apc ) iscandari should think about the true meaning of nationalism..
As our favorite idiot Bush said..
Mandela is dead. Don't be a mandela..
Sylvia it seems has reinvented herself in the fight and struggles of the people of sierra leone. Some of those people it turns out been SLPP, so be it.
Kudo's to her and her newspaper..
We all know she leans GREEN..but we also know she leans WHITE and BLUE..
And for that lil splash of white and paynpeni blue.. My red cowboy hat off to her..
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA APOLOGISES TO SLPP MINISTERS
From: Nationalist
To: All
Date Posted: 14:45:03 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Somebody once said Sierra Leoneans are the dumbest people on earth, hence they had leaders lie Pa.Shaki, Tejan Kabbah and Foday Sanoh chopped their limbs off , then they made him VP, giving him control over their diamonds. Your article just confirmed it.What could be so dumb for you to be so gullible to think that Sylvia Blyden is fighting for the nation.She has realized that she is going to lose all the government contracts she once enjoyed so she will go all out to smear the name of the SLPP.How can you be so dumb not to have noticed by now that Sylvia has a self-seeing agenda and that she cares less for Sierra Leone.She was so self-seeking she became Foday Sankoh and Johnny Paul's parlor wife just to get laid for the fleeting riches she is enjoying today. This isa despicable woman , who if not checked , will bring war bac to Sierra Leone. Wake up, brother.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA APOLOGISES TO SLPP MINISTERS
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 15:12:54 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
Stupid.. but still allowed since its your opinion..
I know we all love to hate her..
She comes across and bitch slap some of you all sometimes... but give dues where it is deserve...
She is re-inventing herself and her newspaper and she is doing a better job of it than this newspaper outfit..
I See even the new people newspaper has a better and more professional look this days.. but wo yang..
She has her following regardless of what ever you might want to believe..and those that follow her carry the green book..and are called sierra leoneans.. regardless if sylvia was sankohs matress...
And thats all i said.
Her newspaper been the highest selling in the land proves it.
But i forgot.. if it did not come from Cocorioko.. its not Gospel.
Next time please address me properly even if we defer in opinion..
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA APOLOGISES TO SLPP MINISTERS
From: NRA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:08:08 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: accfbbd4.ipt.aol.com at 172.207.187.212
Message:
Who says WE ALL love to hate her???
Speak for you and not for ALL.
I love Sylvia. She has guts to say what men fear to say.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA APOLOGISES TO SLPP MINISTERS
From: Sorba S
To: All
Date Posted: 10:40:00 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Sylvia might be one of the worst people when it comes to APC but in reality, she is one of the hard working Sierra leonean there is today. She is a medical DR by profession but choose to write a news paper to get people more informed. In a democratic country like ours, she tried to bring news that is more credible than some news papers. May be this is the reason why she does't post on her website more often until all the facts are checked out.
Keep it up Sylvo. You are a true Sierra leonean. You can even multitask by puting the white uniform at night if you want to help your people. We will love that too.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA APOLOGISES TO SLPP MINISTERS
From: Stop the self-praise
To: All
Date Posted: 14:53:04 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Sylvia, stop the self-praises.Chai ! ! !you sabby mae thing smell.
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA APOLOGISES TO SLPP MINISTERS
From: NRA
To: All
Date Posted: 15:37:34 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: accfbbd4.ipt.aol.com at 172.207.187.212
Message:
Are you saying Sylvia is Sorba S?
Subject: Re: ERNEST KOROMA APOLOGISES TO SLPP MINISTERS
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 12:01:18 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: sccinstr194093.scc.losrios.edu at 165.196.194.93
Message:
Ambidexterity, multi-tallented.
Subject: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: NYA NGAA TIKEKEH
To: All
Date Posted: 08:58:53 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I recently became a naturalized American through marriage. Me en dee Soul sister don chakra but we kin tork en hang out wan wan tem, but that is another story. We born wan lovely gial pikin way kin tork haf en haf Krio. Her favorite mammy language word is "Nyaapoi",and for some reason, my little babe cant get over that word. Pikin nar pikin.
I have a brother {well, he is actually a cousin but up-kontry, every famble nar brother} that I want to bring over here. What steps do I need to take so that the brother can become a permanent resident upon arrival? This brother graduated from Mount Aureol with flying colours, and I want to ensure he comes over to get an advanced degree. Ow for bring dis Alagba ober ya with massive speed?
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: NAMOENCHE- SAY NANH
To: All
Date Posted: 12:38:23 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: bangua@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: adsl-69-232-210-57.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net at 69.232.210.57
Message:
DO NOT GO TO A LAWYER UNLESS YOU WANT TO LOOSE SOME MONEY. YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION THE LAWYER IS GOING TO PUT ON THE FORMS WHICH YOU CAN DO YOURSELF.
LIKE SOMEBODY SAID, SEND SOMEBODY OVER THERE, HAVE THEM TAKE SOME PICTURES, WRITE SOME LETTERS AND BACK DATE THEM THREE YEARS. ONCE SHE IS BACK HERE HAVE HER PETITION FOR HIM AS A FIANCE. HE CAN BE HERE IN LESS THAN A YEAR. IMMIGRATION WANTS TO GIVE YOU A HARD TIME, CALL THE CONGRESS MAN IN YOUR DISTRICT. YOU DON'T NEED A LAWYER. I HAVE DONE IT BEFORE AND I'VE BROUGHT THREE PEOPLE HERE LIKE THAT. SON TEM YU 4 BEND DE RULE.
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: Dombolo
To: All
Date Posted: 13:01:19 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: accb5a5c.ipt.aol.com at 172.203.90.92
Message:
Your advice to the brother demonstrates your ingenuity in trying to flout immigration rules
"write some letters and back date them three years" .........Have her petition for him as a fiancee"
I am sure you are one of those that advocate for transparency and honesty among politicians in Sierra Leone while you are knee-deep in corrupt practices.
By their deeds we shall know them
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: SL600
To: All
Date Posted: 23:19:56 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: abdulcole@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-244-053-040.sip.asm.bellsouth.net at 74.244.53.40
Message:
Thank God his not running the country.
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: Majay Tong
To: All
Date Posted: 11:49:58 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Visit USCIS.gov
Thats the immigration website. If you don't understand by going through the website. Use the 1-800 # and call immigration directly. It is their job to explain things to you.
By the way, are you in favor of BRAIN DRAIN from S/L. The guy who graduated with flying colors from FBC should not clamour to just come to America, for coming to America sake. Rather, let him work in his field of study and subsequently gain a scholarship to study somewhere abroad or even get a graduate degree from one of our excellent universities right there in S/L.
Bring it on!
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: Sadam Insane
To: All
Date Posted: 13:54:02 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Mr educated man please check you pontuations. they seems to be going in the other direction. Let me just give you a simple example; a question does not end with a period AHAAAAAAAAAA portor portor don catch fire.
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: Majay Tong
To: All
Date Posted: 15:08:34 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy3.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.13
Message:
Isane man, you want to dwell in grading papers, then go to school: Punctuation is not spelt "pontuation"; you started your second sentence with a lower case "t", it should have been "They.....".
You are really insane for going after me because I corrected you earlier. Change your name for it truely represents you and exposes your stupidity. Sadam.
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: Hassan Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 11:43:47 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: kamson10@hotmail.com
Entered From: dsl092-165-252.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net at 66.92.165.252
Message:
It takes time to approve a petition for a sibbling to the USA. One of your options will be to find a school for him here that he can apply for one of the programs that are not offered in Sierra Leone like MBA Finance. Once he comes here you can file the petition for him while he is already in the country. It depends who you used to file the petition. Some of the Lawyers will take the chance by applying for a work permit at the sametime he files the petition. They will sometime approve it if he is lucky. Other option is to seek employment at the school and the school will provide a letter for him to get a social security number and you know the rest.
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 10:03:49 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ns.nucleusns2.com at 12.44.12.126
Message:
The man said upon arrival..perm res..
Only option is to have him play the visa lottery thing.
Only other option is send someone over to go marry him.
He can come to school, and then he has to hustle is stay same as we all wey not born here..
Anyways.. Bra Alieu will be better advice..
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 01:33:01 10/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Bra Alieu will be better advice
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It is against my ethic al beliefs to advise any person to flaunt the rules. I will not give advise to anyone with regards to comitting a crime. What you have described may be a crime. So I chose not to get into the debate.
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: TigerSheik
To: All
Date Posted: 06:41:01 10/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 77.182-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be at 80.201.182.77
Message:
I don't think here is an appropriate place to discuss 419's. Don't try to implicate or dicredit the stupid ones that have already given you wrong advices on how to bring your brother illegally to the States. Online!
They should have waited for Alieu's advice as an epertise in the field of immigration laws to comment on this issue.
It seems that you are using this fora as a publicity
stunt to prove to your brother how much you care to bring him over, Would you please turn your headlights down low and start working on it secretely. I assure you will succeed.
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: Alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:21:13 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 65.107.153.146.ptr.us.xo.net at 65.107.153.146
Message:
fen school for am BRA...
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: Sorba S
To: All
Date Posted: 09:14:30 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Call Alieu Iscanderi. He is an immegration lawyer in LA
Subject: Re: HOW DO I BRING HIM OVER?
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 01:35:35 10/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
I do not live in LA. I live inthe better part of california which is the san francisco bay area.
Subject: Preso not ready
From: Sorba S
To: All
Date Posted: 08:51:13 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sorba_1@yahoo.com
Entered From: at 209.116.81.187
Message:
Mr president wanted to run the country as a business. All that was fine and dandy but its been two weeks and going still no cabinet. Is preso actually ready to run the country as promised? I will say may be or may be not. You do not want to keep your enemies in you bed room for too long for they might rape you wife and complained that you did it. It would be better to fill these position and let the people that you trust carry the job. Other wise the enemy will continue to damage you and put the blame on you a la pa kabba.
Please appoint you managers and let them get to work. If you depend on the old managers, you are waisting you time becasue no sane thinking person will work effectively if they know they are loosing theirs jobs anyway.
Finally Mr President I will leave this saying by Jonathan Shell for you and that is: "He who has the reason why can bear almost any how" but please horry time might be running out for impatient people.
Subject: The President must read this
From: Sorie Sudan
To: All
Date Posted: 07:09:57 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: sudaneses52@yahoo.com
Entered From: 87-194-64-12.bethere.co.uk at 87.194.64.12
Message:
The President must read this
- Saturday 29 September 2007.
Commentary.
By Sorie Sudan Sesay, Freetown.
As Sierra Leone enters a new political millennium, there is this talk about so-called ‘moderate SLPP members’ being brought into the proposed new cabinet of the ruling All People’s Congress (APC) party expected to be announced shortly.
Some hold the view that people who played an active role in the former ruling Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP), should be encouraged into the new cabinet. That they they should be included in the current political dispensation in the spirit of a government of national inclusion. To me, this is mere rubbish contrary to the spirit of the concept of a regime change which is the essence of democracy and the ballot box.
Personally, I have no doubt that we have people - hard working people who were very committed towards the development and progress of the country while serving in their respective positions. But as far as I am concerned, this presumably does not warrant an established fact that we must have them as part of the new government when we are talking about a regime change.
Sierra Leone has come a long way and we have had the terrible and negative political impact of personalities being incorporated into past governments and in the end succeeding in injecting bad influences into that very government - the National Provisional Ruling Council (NPRC) is a typical example or have we quickly forgotten how former President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah and his annointed son Solomon Berewa, negatively influenced the running of the NPRC government from behind the scenes? The facts are there.
Incorporating members of the past SLPP could well be a recipe for a chaotic administration, a bad start for the ruling APC party. We cannot deny the fact that the SLPP has failed this nation beyond imagination, to say the least, and I think if there was any minister or other highly placed government functionary holding very sensitive and important positions worth their proverbial salt, that person should have resigned considering the destructive direction the SLPP was going.
Of course, we may have exceptional cases of individuals who may have had their hands tied behind their backs and therefore could do nothing other than dancing to the prevalent music and I’m sure the new President could figure them out.
In short, a new APC administration should be ready to take direct responsibilities both for its successes and (God forbid,) its failures.
Many people have contributed immensely towards the making of the current president and this was not borne out of ulterior motives, but because they believe in what he stands for and therefore will do everything possible to ensure that he is not misled and / or misdirected.
This brings me to the other sensitive issue of former Head of State Julius Maada Bio and former Secretary of State Tom Nyuma, in the defunct National Provisional Ruling Party (NPRC).
Obviously, nobody will convince me to believe that Maada Bio did not make that sweeping statement that he was going to stage a coup should an APC government be elected when the record is all there for all to hear at FM 98.1 Radio Democracy. Bio indeed made this statement and even repeated it when he emphasised it during a political rally for the SLPP. At this point, please don’t get me wrong here for I am not insinuating that the new government should prosecute and persecute Bio and Nyuma, but we must instead keep an eagle eye on them.
It is said only that fools don’t change and we expect the two ‘gentlemen’ to live by that adage for Sierra Leone is growing and the people are well aware and conscious that nobody or group of people will be allowed to destroy their future.
Therefore, in as much as I strongly believe the new President’s main task is how to unite the people of this country, I also want to believe that both men had a very unimpressive record during their stint in government and that bad influence should not be underestimated.
Coming back to the issue of good governance, which I believe is the tenet guiding President Ernest Koroma: He should realise that his government is a total regime change that has nothing to do with the past government of the SLPP, and that is how it should be maintained.
I hope the President would take note and listen to me!
Subject: Re: The President must read this
From: Sylvia Fan
To: All
Date Posted: 09:04:57 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 87-194-64-12.bethere.co.uk at 87.194.64.12
Message:
Another view in support of Sylvia Blyden's position against Crazy Baldhead Reverend who says anyone taking that position is an enemy of Sierra Leone. Crazy Reverend hates Sylvia so much that even when she is talking sense, he sees nonsense in it. Crazy Reverend is a bald head.
Subject: French lessons online
From: pascal
To: All
Date Posted: 06:50:47 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: tuition@lsfrench.com
Entered From: 217.48.102-84.rev.gaoland.net at 84.102.48.217
Message:
We offer to learn French online pc to pc, our French tutors are all qualified and experienced, French lessons. www.lsfrench.com
Subject: French lessons online
From: pascal
To: All
Date Posted: 06:50:03 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: tuition@lsfrench.com
Entered From: 217.48.102-84.rev.gaoland.net at 84.102.48.217
Message:
We offer to learn French online pc to pc, our French tutors are all qualified and experienced, French lessons.
Subject: REGIME CHANGE- BANK GOVERNOR
From: saloneman
To: All
Date Posted: 06:16:20 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: wbs-196-2-124-253.wbs.co.za at 196.2.124.253
Message:
HI ALL,
Quick question, in the event of a regime change such as what has recently taken place in our beautiful country, does this automatically override the existing bank governor's tenure-ship? Meaning Dr. J D Rogers appointed duty as bank governor is not due for resignation until his five year term of office is over which is April 2008. Does he immediately have to leave his office, if the other cabinet positions change?
Please enlighten.....
Subject: Re: REGIME CHANGE- BANK GOVERNOR
From: Governor at his desk
To: All
Date Posted: 06:32:06 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 87-194-64-12.bethere.co.uk at 87.194.64.12
Message:
I wonder why people like believing reports in Standard Times Newspaper. Governor Rogers is working at the Bank in Freetown right now even as I type this post.
Subject: Re: REGIME CHANGE- BANK GOVERNOR
From: saloneman
To: All
Date Posted: 06:43:36 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: wbs-196-2-124-253.wbs.co.za at 196.2.124.253
Message:
I confirmed that... but that does not answer my question.... his appointment does not expire until april 2008.... does a REGIME CHANGE automatically OVERRIDE THAT if they choose a new bank governor. OR does his tenureship remain in place until expiration and then the new bank governor takes over?
Subject: Re: REGIME CHANGE- BANK GOVERNOR
From: Lawyer
To: All
Date Posted: 07:06:19 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 41.205.26.250
Message:
No,his tenure does not expire with change in Government.There are some of his rivals, who are trying to discredit him, and hios rivals, may incite the new Govt and newspaper to compel him to quit.
Subject: ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS SERVING COUNTRY OR PRESIDENT?
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 06:14:56 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: m500-mp1.ppphg-08-brnt.dial.ntli.net at 80.2.207.244
Message:
Bock Jah wrote on September 30, 2007 at 12:19:29:
"[Ministers] are not serving the current president because they have not taken an oath to do so which is the requirement to hold such an office."
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought elected officials take an oath to serve their COUNTRY, not the President??
On another note, you quote from the constitution:
Section 58. (1) The office of a Minister or a Deputy Minister shall become vacant —
a. on the expiration of the term of office of the President (etc.)
But this does NOT mean the outgoing official has no continuing responsibility to the country, or is not accountable for consequential and ongoing events arising from his/her actions and decisions.
Remember, Pres. Kabbah's "term of office" expired long BEFORE Pres. Koroma was sworn in. According to your literal interpretation, all Minsters should have vacated their office immediately Kabbah's mandate expired -- clearly impractical and against the meaning of the provision.
What all this shows is that this was a hastily drafted constitution that needs careful revision. ECOWAS has already called for the 55% run-off threshold to be reduced (see link below).
Apart from the need for a lead-in period to change of leader, there are other important matters. For example, what should be the position of an opposition leader whose party wins the majority in parliament but who fails to get elected president? In most countries the majority leader automatically becomes head of govt. because that is the person whom the people have given their mandate. Is there not a case for a Prime Minister separate from the President (as in France etc.)?
Subject: Re: ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS SERVING COUNTRY OR PRESIDENT?
From: Bock Jah
To: All
Date Posted: 07:12:40 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 195.172.14.80
Message:
Ministers do take an oath in the presence of the president to serve the Country of course in his Administration.I had used the word not 'serving the President' to mean that they were not appointed by President Koroma.I am not a constitutional expert but there is a provision in the constitution that allows them to occupy Office even after the expiration of the term of the president but ends when a new President and vice- President is elected.
I agree with you that the constitution needs a review.A westminster style where in the party with the most seats forms the government would be ideal.Thanks for the link.
Subject: Re: ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS SERVING COUNTRY OR PRESIDENT?
From: Reporter
To: All
Date Posted: 08:55:03 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: m131-mp1.ppphg-12-manc.dial.ntli.net at 80.0.118.131
Message:
Bock Jah, you're welcome sir. Can you throw any light on all this talk about parliamentarians needing to resign their seats if appointed to the cabinet? Is there a provision in our constitution that bars parliamentarians from becoming ministers? What about Paramount Chiefs? I mean, even the UK Prime Minister is a sitting parliamentarian with a constituency !
Looks like we tried to mix n' match US style separation of executive/legislature with UK Westminster style winner-takes-all elections. End result: a right 'ol Mammy Coker palava sauce with too many ingredients for a small country!
I wonder if those calling for an all-APC cabinet understand that, if APC parliamentarians/Paramount Chiefs are barred from cabinet, Pres. Koroma has no option but to widen the net?
Subject: Re: ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS SERVING COUNTRY OR PRESIDENT?
From: Bock Jah
To: All
Date Posted: 13:39:23 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-los-ae04.proxy.aol.com at 195.93.21.132
Message:
Reporter thanks,according to the constitution it is not possible to be a member of parliament and a minister at the same time.The purpose i think was to make parliament independent of the executive.To get around this a member of parliament would have to resign his/her seat if appointed a minister.In such an event a bye-election would be held in that constituency to elect another MP.Indeed it is a blend making it possible to have a President whose party is a minority in parliament.President Koroma can appoint members of parliament to his cabinet provided they resign their seats.
56. (1) 'There shall be, in addition to the office of Vice-President, such other offices of Ministers and Deputy Ministers as may be established by the President:
Provided that no Member of Parliament shall be appointed a Minister or Deputy Minister'(Constitution of Sierra Leone Act no6 1991)
Subject: BANK GOVERNOR-ROGERS ON THE RUN
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 06:11:25 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
Message:
This is just exactly what the President is saying,to monitor the movements of government officials,especially those who had access to government finances,ex-ministers,etc.I met rogers in 2003,he is unprofessional and a crook like.Mr President,let the law take its course if any one found guilty.God Bless Sierra-Leone.
Subject: Re: BANK GOVERNOR-ROGERS ON THE RUN
From: Wonder Never Cease
To: All
Date Posted: 06:36:22 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 87-194-64-12.bethere.co.uk at 87.194.64.12
Message:
J D Rogers has gone nowhere. He is working at the Cnetral Bank right now. Why do people like believing Standard Times is a wonder to me.
Subject: Finally_-New APC CABINET!!!!
From: Reliable INSIDE source!!!!
To: All
Date Posted: 05:54:35 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: acbd27e1.ipt.aol.com at 172.189.39.225
Message:
Vice President- Charles Margai
Minister of Finance- Hassan Gbessay Kanu
Foreign Minister- Zainab Bangura
Education- Sorie Dumbuya
Lands Minister- Alpha Kanu
Mines Minister - Momoh Konteh
Tourism Minister- Oluniyi Robin-coker
Sports Minister- Philip Neville
Information Minister- Paul Kamara
Health Misister- Victor Foh
Agriculture Minister- Sama Mondeh
Resident Minister East- Sam Sumana
Resident Minister North- Osman Yasaneh
Resident Minister South- Hindolo Trye
Defence-Maada Bio
Attorney-General- Serry Kamal
Energy and Power-Momodu Koroma
Transporation-Jimmy Kandeh
Internal affairs - JB Dauda
Works-Dauda Tombo Bangura
Bank Governor- Alex Mansaray
Fellows a few JC's fainted right here in the corridors of state house. Serves them right. One was crying for the house he remortgaged...
Subject: Re: Finally_-New APC CABINET!!!!
From: Not possible
To: All
Date Posted: 07:10:52 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 41.205.26.250
Message:
It is not possible to run the Government without involving Sanfa Koroma as a Minister.
Subject: Re: Finally_-New APC CABINET!!!!
From: Pure APC Cabinet
To: All
Date Posted: 09:01:04 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 87-194-64-12.bethere.co.uk at 87.194.64.12
Message:
Or Ambassador Dauda Kamara either!!!
Subject: Re: Finally_-New APC CABINET!!!!
From: Nonsense
To: All
Date Posted: 08:56:42 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
paddi, leh we yase blow with nonsense.
Subject: Could this be APC and SLPP Fighting?
From: MUSA
To: All
Date Posted: 05:01:15 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-76-195-145-14.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net at 76.195.145.14
Message:
Hey
Check the link below to see it yourself....!!!
Subject: Congratulations NIGERIA on 47th Independence birthday today!
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 04:41:57 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-308472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.48
Message:
Congratulations president Umaru Yar'adua and the people of Nigeria, today 1st October 2007!
Subject: Re: Congratulations NIGERIA on 47th Independence birthday today!
From: Who cares
To: All
Date Posted: 05:13:50 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 41.205.26.250
Message:
Number one Country in the world!!!
Subject: Re: Congratulations NIGERIA on 47th Independence birthday today!
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 04:58:17 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-308472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.48
Message:
http://www.nigeriaworld.com/
Why Africa needs partnership with international community
http://www.nigerianmuse.com/article_comments/?faid=649&PHPSESSID=e22c5106d521df47645e9dd749ce2ed9
REAL TALK:
H.E. Mr. Umaru Musa Yar'Adua
President addresses 62 Session of UN General Assembly
http://www.un.org/webcast/ga/62/
Subject: Campaigning against corruption in Sierra Leone
From: Concern Citizen
To: All
Date Posted: 03:14:40 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: ethics101@usa.com
Entered From: at 166.124.98.21
Message:
Ladies and gentlemen, please allow me to share my experiences with you all. I made a trip to Sierra leone three years back, and once we were off the plane, I picked up my luggages, and joined the checked out line, to my supprise, I was told to give some money, so my backed will not be checked, I outrightly refused, telling them that i am not a smuggler, so they can take all the time in the world to chesk my bags. Because of that, I was delayed at the airport, and missed the very last ferry for the city.
The other incident was at water quay, I had shipped a twenty feet container, and honestly, all the items were for a wedding. I was charged eight million nine hundred thousand leones, and was told that they could lower the price a bit, but will only give me a receipt for one million five hundred thousands leones. I said no, I rather them write the receipt to the government. They have like a seperate pan box back of the desk were these monies are kept. I think Custom, water quay, the airport, they all need to be audited big time. Also they needed better training of dealing with customers. Moreso, is it possible to have a price list posted so you know when you are out there to clear your items, there is no wishy washy? And also, could the government see to it that these people get paid, and on time, because that's the reason why there so many day time thieves all over tha place. Most of the government employees have not "ETHICS" at all. How do some of them feel when they lay in some of these huge homes knowing that it's not there hard labor? To my fellow Sierra leonean, please join me and say "NO BRIBERY" Let us put and end to such rubbish, let us come up with ideas and channel it to those in charge. We can do it, and let don't stop till we see changes.
"SAY NO TO BRIBERY", "YES TO ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY" "YES TO LITERACY" "YES TO GOOD HEALTH" "YES TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING" "YES TO GOOD ROADS" "YES TO ELECTRICITY" "YES TO CLEAN WATER" "YES TO PRICE CONTROL" "YES TO CITIZEN'S RIGHT"
Subject: Re: Campaigning against corruption in Sierra Leone
From: VOW
To: All
Date Posted: 05:24:36 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 41.205.26.250
Message:
one container load of goods for a wedding????You must be filthy rich.Someone who brings containers loads of goods, as his personal effect,is as good as a smuggler.
Subject: ALPHA SAIDU ID A FORCE TO RECKON WITH.
From: The Guy next door
To: All
Date Posted: 02:59:24 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: adsl-68-75-17-149.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net at 68.75.17.149
Message:
I have noticed that, each time Alpha Saidu posts a comment it attracts threads of responses in this forum serious and unserious. The most recent post claiming SLPP membership till death got everyone going. His claims are baseless, unsubstanciated, does no good for well meanning Sierra Leoneans but yet, he continues to elicte our attention. The man has not changed and so is his post.
I can only conclude that, Alpha Saidu is great amongst us.
Subject: Re: ALPHA SAIDU ID A FORCE TO RECKON WITH.
From: Another Sylvia Fan
To: All
Date Posted: 05:59:27 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 87-194-64-12.bethere.co.uk at 87.194.64.12
Message:
The same for Sylvia BLYDEN. She is the greatest thing to hit the internet since Al Gore.
Subject: Re: ALPHA SAIDU ID A FORCE TO RECKON WITH.
From: Blow your own horn
To: All
Date Posted: 14:15:22 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Alpha and Sylvia, that is the way to go.Blow your own horn.Kabs does not want to blow your horn so blow it yourselves.
Subject: QUOTE OF THE NEW ERA BY ERICA ADAMS
From: Albert Moinina
To: All
Date Posted: 02:32:20 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 213.42.21.60
Message:
Thank you Erica for the brilliant statement wherein you wrote:
“I think a big public awareness campaign needs to take place for months to outline what corruption really is. Some things are so woven into the fabic of the society that people may no longer view them as corruption. Basic things like having someone demand fees for services you shouldn't have to pay for like medical treatment and school enrollment. Then there needs to be a system for reporting.”
Subject: PRESIDENT KOROMA UNVEILS PLANS TO INCREASE ELECTRICITY SUPPL
From: Bamaby Lans Kamara
To: All
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PRESIDENT KOROMA UNVEILS PLANS TO INCREASE ELECTRICITY SUPPLY IN SIERRA LEONE
By Joseph Kamanda : Cocorioko Reporter at State House
His Excellency the President, Ernest Bai Koroma, last Saturday unveiled plans to increase electricity supply in the country. Making a statement at a public lecture organized by the Sierra Leone Institute of Engineers of the Power Sector, President Koroma said that his government inherited the responsibility for driving the economy forward ; therefore , he declared that the provision of reliable power to the individual and the cooperate citizens of Sierra Leone is
Subject: As the world turns.
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 21:27:01 09/30/07 ()
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Going back memory lane.
Subject: Clare Shorts warnings about CORRUPTION on 27 February 2002
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 20:58:04 09/30/07 ()
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The Anti-Corruption Commission was started on 3rd Feeebruary 2003 Since then it has prosecuated sa dozen or so small fry.
These are extracts from a SPEECH BY THE RT. HON. CLARE SHORT MP SECRETARY OF STATE FOR
INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT
BRITISH COUNCIL AUDITORIUM,
FREETOWN, SIERRA LEONE
27 FEBRUARY 2002
Today I want to say, in no uncertain terms, to all who are planning to contest the forthcoming elections, that the tradition of corruption must be brought to an end. Sierra Leone has a long history of terrible misgovernment – not because it is poor – but because it is naturally rich. The colonial regime, neighbouring countries, rebels and governments since independence, have all misused this country because they wanted access to the rich minerals – diamonds and rutile with which nature has endowed this beautiful country. Sierra Leone will not have a secure and happy future unless the people of this country approach these forthcoming elections with an absolute determination that corruption will be rooted out of public life and that the rich natural resources will be managed transparently and properly so that they bring real benefits to the people of Sierra Leone.
I want to make clear today that the UK Government is committed to stand by Sierra Leone for the long-term provided that we have a strong mutual commitment to the building of a competent, transparent and uncorrupt modern state. Before saying more about that I want to say something about the prospects of the people of Africa as we look forward to our new century.
Africa has suffered many cruelties from history – slavery and colonialism, independence boundaries inherited from a colonial carve up that cut across natural groupings of people and geography. And then the Cold War with arms being supplied and aid being used to tie governments to the protagonists rather than to democracy and development for their people.
For these and other reasons of misgovernment and geography, Africa is the poorest continent. The levels of poverty are deeper than anywhere else in the world – 46% of the population of sub-Saharan Africans are living in abject poverty – on less than $1 a day. And poverty in Africa is deeper than it is elsewhere.
On present trends, the world is on course to meet the international target, agreed at the Millennium Conference of the United Nations, of halving poverty by 2005 and life will get steadily better for the poor of Asia. But at present trends poverty will get worse for the people of Africa. If Africa is to reach the target, then sub-Saharan Africa needs 7% economic growth every year across the continent until 2015. There are some countries that are achieving these rates of growth – Botswana, Mozambique and Uganda. I am hopeful that some of the new reformers will forward to these levels of growth - South Africa, Ghana and Ethiopia. But we must all be clear, at present rates of economic growth, Africa is set to become steadily poorer. On present trends, population growth is outstripping economic growth and that means poverty will grow invincibly.
We must all commit ourselves to change this trend. That is the purpose of NEPAD – the New Partnership for African Development – an agenda for major reform led by African countries. And this is why the UK, alongside other OECD countries – with the passionate commitment of our Prime Minister, Tony Blair – is strongly committed to forging a new partnership for African development in order to offer the people of the continent a better future.
”For Sierra Leone the other great threat for the future is corruption.
Corruption, either grand (the looting of state coffers by those in public trust, the illegal trading in diamonds) or petty (the charge demanded by a low-ranking official for a service that should be free), remains endemic in Sierra Leone. It has become a way of life for many. Society has come to accept, even expect, corruption. As always the poor suffer most, and the poorest of the poor most of all. They are denied access to education, healthcare and medicine because they cannot afford to make the extra payments demanded by corrupt officials. They are denied justice when the legal system is twisted by bribery. And they suffer when corruption diverts scarce resources away from development or deters essential domestic and international investment.
The system for prosecuting those found out is itself corrupted by inertia, and the failure to punish those responsible. The temptation therefore remains. Too many of the people entering politics and the civil service in Sierra Leone do so in order to make money. Personal gain, or loyalty to family, tribe or party, is put before national interest. And the consequence of this is that the country is damaged and everyone loses out.
These problems are not, of course, confined to Sierra Leone – they flourish wherever systems are flabby, wherever the institutional environment within government is weak and ineffective, and wherever transparency and accountability is lacking. And let us be clear, the difference between OECD countries and developing countries, is not that one set of people or more moral or more corrupt than another. As you all know, Western Business and in particular, arms dealers, have in the past tended to spread bribery and corruption. But we currently have a chance for a leap forward. The OECD Convention on Bribery requires all OECD countries to strengthen their law to make bribery of a public official abroad a criminal offence. The Convention also requires us to cease to make bribes tax deductible which – to our shame – they have been in many countries up until now.
In Sierra Leone, as in many other countries, while financial systems are weak people will engage in corruption. Departmental budgets are not linked to clear objectives, the Public Accounts Committee and other Parliamentary Committees are unable or unwilling to exercise their authority, and Parliament lacks the degree of independence it needs if it is to be able to apply checks and balances to government actions. Many areas of government have never been audited.
Lack of information on government expenditures prevents the people from holding government to account. Even when information is available, civil society is weak and there are few channels through which it can engage effectively with government. There is also a lack of capacity in the local press and other media to investigate and expose corrupt practices in government.
Sierra Leone has got to clean up its act fast if it is to remain at peace and offer a better future to its children. There is a need to root out those practices that corrode public trust, impoverish those who are most in need, and choke off investment and economic progress. Now that government control over the country has been re-established, there is an urgent need to ensure that government services are delivered in outlying areas. Financing these services effectively will require a reduction in both petty and grand corruption. The problem has got to be dealt with promptly and effectively if Sierra Leone is to attract the levels of donor support and investment that is needed to fund reconstruction, regenerate economic activities, and deliver government services throughout the country.
WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE
In order to tackle these problems, the existing anti-corruption programme must continue. And let me make it clear, President Kabbah has made a strong personal stand against corruption. It was on his personal initiative that the Anti-Corruption Commission was set up. But he has only a handful of Ministers and officials helping him. And this is not good enough. Whoever wins the election, there must be a much stronger commitment to anti-corruption and the UK will make this a strong condition for all our future help to Sierra Leone. The country needs to start work immediately after the election to set out a coherent strategy for dealing with the problem. The strategy needs to be about stopping corruption and strengthening financial management and accountability within government. For its part, the international community needs to get behind this strategy and give its full support. The UK Government stands ready to offer our help in drafting this, and in providing the technical and other assistance needed to carry the process forward. We are committed to standing by Sierra Leone for the long term provided we have a partnership to root out corruption.
As I see it, there are five broad areas that require attention.
First, fostering a new attitude in civil servants and politicians. The lead must be taken by the highest levels of government, and a clear message delivered, that corruption will no longer be tolerated in public service. Public service must be put before private gain. Blind eyes should no longer be turned. Those caught should be shamed, persecuted and disqualified from public office.
But we must understand enforcement action alone is never enough. Systems must also be put in place to prevent corruption. There must be proper management of the civil service, and proper remuneration to reduce the incentive to seek bribes. Transparent public procurement is essential. There is no justice and no proper enforcement of contracts without an effective and impartial judiciary. And the transparent funding of political parties is essential to guard against corruption of the electoral process.
Second, strengthening systems of control and accountability within government. We are already providing support for the Anti-Corruption Commission, the Governance Reform Secretariat, the law development programme, and reform of the Police and the Military. We intend to strengthen this work and encourage the World Bank and others to work jointly on this.
I have already referred to the rarity of adequate audit both within government and among its agencies. The Auditor General's office needs to be strengthened to enable it to carry out these tasks. Depending upon the results of the World Bank-led financial accountability assessments, we may consider offering longer-term technical assistance to the Auditor General's office. We also strongly recommend that independent audits of quasi-governmental organisations such as the University and the State Owned enterprises, many of which have not been audited for decades, be conducted.
Third, the enforcement of anti-corruption legislation needs to be improved, including the investigation capability of the Anti-Corruption Commission , and the prosecution capacity of the Attorney General's Office. Those charged by the Anti-Corruption Commission must be tried fairly and promptly in order to prevent political interference in the judicial process.
Fourth, the management of the country's diamond resources must be put on the right footing, so that the income derived can be harnessed for the benefit of the country as a whole. We have recently published an independent report that sets out a range of policy options and actions needed to achieve this aim. I hope all Sierra Leoneans who are interested in the diamond industry will read it. Here again, rooting out the corruption that has plagued the industry is at the heart of the report's recommendations. Better standards must be set, and adhered to. Better policies must be established for the control and licensing of mining, both artisanal and kimberlite. Adequate security has to be put in place, to increase the confidence of investors. And marketing arrangements must be improved. This is a long list. But Sierra Leone will remain mired in corruption if the diamond industry is not properly managed. The UK stands ready to provide the technical support needed to help the Government of Sierra Leone select and prioritise from the range of options, and then implement the chosen reforms.
Finally, the accountability of government to the people must be improved. DFID's current programme encourages accountability through our support for the electoral process, our media development work and other programmes. We intend expanding this work by supporting the government to develop its Poverty Reduction Strategy Paper, through a process that is as widely participatory as possible. Our support to the Public Expenditure Tracking Surveys, and their open publication, will help to improve public accountability for government spending.
We have also just started, in conjunction with the World Bank Institute, a corruption survey in Sierra Leone, following up and extending a previous survey carried out in 2000. This will collect information about the experience and perceptions of corruption by citizens of Sierra Leone, thus establishing baseline data that will enable improvements to be monitored over the coming years. There must be regular surveys so that we have a means of checking that progress is continuing.
CONCLUSION
New attitudes, better financial systems, prosecution of the guilty, better management of diamonds and real accountability to the people. This, then, is the agenda for change. In taking it forward, the leading role must obviously be taken by the people and Government of Sierra Leone. But tackling corruption effectively requires a real focus, coordinated action and shared responsibility. Everyone's energies must be thrown behind this anti-corruption strategy. It is the key to a better future for the people of Sierra Leone and the avoidance of a return to conflict.
As you know the UK is providing long-term help to train and restructure the new Sierra Leone Armed Forces, and help with humanitarian relief, DDR and the building of government capacity to provide proper services to all the people. We are currently spending £100 million each year to support peacekeeping, training of the armed forces, relief and development. We are willing to maintain our efforts on the basis of a committed partnership to maintain peace, reduce poverty and promote a better future for all the people of Sierra Leone. This requires a strong determination to root out corruption. On this basis the UK is willing to remain engaged in Sierra Leone for the long term. I hope that every politician that is planning the forthcoming elections understands that the old politics is finished and that an expectation of corrupt rewards has no place in the new Sierra Leone.”
http://www.sierra-leone.org/ACCreport2002-appendixi.html
Subject: Re: Clare Shorts warnings about CORRUPTION on 27 February 2002
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 22:05:00 09/30/07 ()
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What this tells us is that if the incoming government can not show a systematic shift in corruption the funds from the international community will dry up. No one is going to keep throwing money down the drain. If the government can not show progress toward their stated goals, donors will tire of excuses. The true measure of a leader is his willingness to lead by example. The President has to be willing to be as transparent as he is insisting the people he manages be. What that means is exposure. If people are found to be corrupt, they have to be weeded out. That's not a witch hunt, that's how you change a system. The President has to make it clear that anyone; be it a minister who expect bribes or a school master is exempt. They have to face stiff consequences to include unemployment and judical prosecution. He wants to run the country like a business, he has to do what the business world does. If a bank teller was stealing from Wachovia, Bank of America or one of the other large financial institutions here in America; they would have no problem with first firing you and then prosecuting you. The President has stated that he doesn't want excuses from civil servants, well the people has to insist they don't want excuses from the president. That means zero tolerence for corruption. I think a big public awareness campaign needs to take place for months to outline what corruption really is. Some things are so woven into the fabic of the society that people may no longer view them as corruption. Basic things like having someone demand fees for services you shouldn't have to pay for like medical treatment and school enrollment. Then there needs to be a system for reporting. If there are as many people qualified and able to perform the essential functions required to maintain services in Salone as has been eluded to on this forum, then getting rid of bad apples is a non issues. The bad apples can be replaced in no time. If people know that their livelihood is really on the line and there is no safety net, they won't be so willing to take risks. This has to be a very intentional process.
Subject: Re: Clare Shorts warnings about CORRUPTION on 27 February 2002
From: Ernest Koroma
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Date Posted: 00:26:52 10/01/07 ()
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Too much talk about the examples of american banks. who are trying to impress that you are in america? Don't you have any examples of banks in Sierra Leone? If come to this forum just to show off, then shut up and go to bed, bitch
Subject: Re: Clare Shorts warnings about CORRUPTION on 27 February 2002
From: TigerSheik
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Date Posted: 03:07:37 10/01/07 ()
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I think the poor lady is making a point here. As far as i am concern no stupid person will want to give a good examples about our banking system in Sierra leone because it's a mess and has to be clean up.
Your abusive language has just shown the kind of man you are.Definitely you are from the KRU TOWN BAY.
Your should be using "Raray" man as your cybername rather than "Ernest Koroma".
Subject: Re: Clare Shorts warnings about CORRUPTION on 27 February 2002
From: Detective
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Date Posted: 04:37:50 10/01/07 ()
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Are you sure it is not a "SHE" masquerading as "Ernest Koroma"?
I detect the hand and style of SYLVIA BLYDEN here !!!
Subject: HELP ME OUT PLEASE!
From: KING LOGGY
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Date Posted: 20:51:32 09/30/07 ()
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What if a minister decide to quit his position in protest against the president's travel restrictions, can he be held liable for a crime?
Subject: Re: HELP ME OUT PLEASE!
From: Bock Jah
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Date Posted: 04:11:27 10/01/07 ()
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These so called ministers are no longer entiltled to their positions.Their term as ministers have ended according to the constitution(when the term of the president ends).They would be liable for crimes committed whilst in office but what i am having difficulty with is if they do anything illegal in those departments now when they are not suppossed to be there in the first place.This transition has given them time to forge documents and destroy evidence.This in my opinion was not a good idea at all
Subject: Re: HELP ME OUT PLEASE!
From: SUBWANALAI
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Date Posted: 04:05:52 10/01/07 ()
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This was a gentleman's agreement my friend. They agreed to work with the new government's novelty of a smooth transition. So if they are begining to AWOL then only they know what they have sensed. We (the FORCES OF JUSTICE) shall track them on land, air and sea.
DOWN OPPRESSOR MAN/ WHERE YOU GONNA RUN TO/ ON THAT DAY...
YOU WILL RUN TO THE SEA/ THE SEA WILL BE BOILING/ YOU WILL RUN TO THE ROCKS/ THE ROCKS WILL BE MELTING...(Not I, the late Bro. Peter Tosh said it. Ah!Ah!Ah!
Subject: Re: HELP ME OUT PLEASE!
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 21:27:19 09/30/07 ()
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Its a chaotic transition. My opinion is that the new government should let these people go. Sierra Leone has enough resources which, if properly managed, will bring millions into the coffers. Recovery of stolen millions should not be a priority. Their time will come.
Subject: Re: HELP ME OUT PLEASE!
From: Patriot
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Date Posted: 21:58:03 09/30/07 ()
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"Recovery of stolen millions should not be a priority. Their time will come. "
Spoken like a true traitor to the interest of Salone. To whom I would direct Emmerson's words of warning:
Salone nor to farm
For all kine tiffman.
Translation: You SLPP tiffman dem, we will try you, convict you, jail you and separate you from the money you looted from our people. You will not know what time it will come. But come, it will.
Subject: Re: AND MAY I ADD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq
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Date Posted: 02:26:44 10/01/07 ()
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tiffman dem, we will try you, convict you, jail you and separate you from the money you looted from our people.-------------------------------------------------------------------
And may I add that we will do all we can to seek RESTITUTION against all parties. we will use the power of the UN and other agencies and governments to seek to have all funds repatriated back to the coffers of sierra leone where it belongs.
Subject: Re: HELP ME OUT PLEASE!
From: Bamaby Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 00:11:00 10/01/07 ()
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But KKW these are issues we have discussed here time angain, since I knew you in 1997 that there is too much corruption in Sierra Leone, which if you will recall, resulted in our brutal war. Besides, majority of contributors here levied the blame on the A.P.C. but at the time this claims could not be authenticated because no inventory or auditing was made. Therefore, if the A.P.C. had left huge lump of money in the government's coffers because they were overthrown, and these money was misappropriated by any government, we would not know. If the A.P.C. had misappropriated the funds we would not know either but I am positive that that was not the case because the young government would have repremanded them.
There is no need for the outgoing Ministers to be scared if they have evrything intact. If their consciences are clear, they should just go about their business and make the transition smooth as it is to be. There is nothing chaotic about it. This is what most Sierra Leoneans have prayed for, that there be accountability. Accountability must be the responsibilities of all Sierra Leoneans to which the former and in-coming government are no exception.
I am confident that all patriotic Sierra Leoneans will favor the President's move because that will send a clear message that he means business.
I have to go. I am preparing for a Microbiology test tomorrow. Just came to check on you guys.
Subject: Re: HELP ME OUT PLEASE!
From: Bamaby Lans Kamara
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Date Posted: 21:25:09 09/30/07 ()
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The Minister can quit, he cannot be held responsible for anything if has done his job accordingly but if he has fraudulently misappropriated government funds, it is felony, a crime against humanity because he has caused the sufferings of a mass of the populace for selfish and egocentric reasons.
Subject: Breaking News..Bobson "broke ose" Sesay Absconds
From: FYI
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Date Posted: 20:10:31 09/30/07 ()
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I just ran across my old friend from China House in Brookfields-Bobson Ssay-former Minister of Lands.He arrived in the U.S.sometime last week.
Subject: Re: Breaking News..Bobson "broke ose" Sesay Absconds
From: FY
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I do not see anything wrong with his arrival in USA.Is he wanted by the Courts or Police in Sierra Leone???If no, leave him in peace.No witch hunting.
Subject: Re: Breaking News..Bobson "broke ose" Sesay Absconds
From: Justice
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holding people accountable for their actions is not witch hunting. There will be no peace until justice is done for the people of Salone who were the victims of the SLPP kleptos.
Subject: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: CLARENCE THOMAS
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Date Posted: 18:55:54 09/30/07 ()
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I have seen many people on this forum crying down Taxicab drivers who are in Sierra Leone helping the newly elected government. Do you know that in America , a black man's degree is discounted 50%? See the interview with Supreme court Justice Clarence Thomas on 60 minutes or buy his book My grandfathers son: A memoir. People with Pull Him Down Syndrome abound on this forum and I don't know why.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Kalos
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Clarence Thomas in my opinion is a celebrated bigot, I wrote the same during his confirmation hearing and he proved me right by his writings on the bench. He gained admission to Yale via affirmative action; he is now doing all that he can to close that door for others. Terrible example.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 03:15:11 10/01/07 ()
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You give Clarence Thomas as an example. He is now a US Supreme Court Justice. I think he would beg to differ on the value of a Yale Education.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: NYA NGAA TIKEKEH
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Date Posted: 20:01:20 09/30/07 ()
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Clarence Thomas wouldn't be on the bench if he were illiterate. As a populist and son of peasants, I will NEVER disrespect a commoner. However, the value of education is too immeasurable to be downplayed by baseless assertions like yours. I need to read the entire transcr1pt of Clarence Thomas' interview to ensure you are not quoting him out of context. I have just started my doctoral studies, and I am loving it. Educated people have played a role in the destruction of Sierra Leone, but their complicity should never be used to misunderstand the worth of education. Are you jealous of educated people?
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Lady J
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Date Posted: 22:00:03 09/30/07 ()
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Lovey Dovey .... He is quoting the man out of context... It's so sad for him to have missed the point of the interview ... I wish I had time to "intellectually purified" it for him ... Oh yah ... Yawwwwnnnnn ... Me pikin want ehn Mama .. Got to go.
Oh.... Lovey ... Make sure you find the transcr1pt to Clarence's interview .... It speaks volume ... It's about Determination, Integrity, Persistence, Will- Power, No -excuse , Hardwork ... The list goes on and on ... You will enjoy it.
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 07:52:43 10/01/07 ()
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"Yawwwwnnnnn ... Me pikin want ehn Mama .. Got to go"
Did you really say that? Lady J?
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Lady J
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Date Posted: 08:24:44 10/01/07 ()
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Alieu,
Yes I did my dear....
I'm the proud mother of a two year old who woke up during my tapping on the key board... I had to go. My baby come first.
Any more questions?
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: BRA ENVIABLE
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Date Posted: 22:40:54 09/30/07 ()
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Neneh Fullah Musu, it's always nice to "see" you. Nar so u sabi loss? Do yah tork to me wance in a while. Ay boh! Stay blessed.
In Peace,
Lovey Dovey.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Uncle Tom
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Date Posted: 22:09:43 09/30/07 ()
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I watched the interview. I heard Clarence Thomas dodge the interviewer's dispositive question: "Some people say you benefitted from affirmative action. And after you had, you turned around and now oppose the very affirmative action from which you benefitted. They say you pulled the ladder up after you. How do you respond?
THOMAS: It's about principle.
My question: What principle?
THOMAS: Yain! Not a word!
Only a self-hating, vengeful blackman or black woman would find Clarence Thomas edifying. The only plausible explanation for Thomas' uniformly adversarial vitriolic opposition towards any and all of the interests of his own race is the one he himself reportedly gave, naturally out of the public arena:
That he wanted to punish blacks for opposing his nomination to the Supreme Court.
There can be no more despicable reason for a man -- black or white -- to remain on the highest court in America.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Lady J
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Date Posted: 09:15:12 10/01/07 ()
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Uncle Tom,
Your point is well taken. On the other hand, becareful with your blanket statements against those who don't share your views on Clarence Thomas.
Affirmative Action has been beneficial to those minorities that took advantage of it. If Clarence was not an educated black man, there is no way he would have made it that far. Let's give credit where credit is due ... You may chose to VILIFY, others may chose to EDIFY ... There is no right or wrong here, it all depends from which angle you chose to look at the man
Affirmative Action is not a hand out, it's an opportunity that one has to take advantage of.
Clarence does not have the power to stop others from taking the opportunity he took to get where he is today.
The door was cracked open a little bit for some of us to make it through, it's up to you to squeeze your way through it, or fall outside the door while others use you as a door mat to get in.
Yes, there are times when we hope that one of our own who made it through the door before us, will hold the door open for us to step in with ease, but you and I know that's not the case .... Some may want to close the door behind them so that the others may not get in. (A La Clarence Thomas)
It's up to the individuals standing outside to push harder so that they can get in, or give up and walk away.
It's not what happens, it's how you handle what happens that makes the difference.
Clarence is ONE of NINE in the Supreme court ... We can't heap all the blame on him.
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Uncle Tom
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Date Posted: 12:49:29 10/01/07 ()
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"Clarence is ONE of NINE in the Supreme court ... We can't heap all the blame on him."
Lady J:
Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, your statement quoted above strongly suggests that you did not understand my posting. Accordingly, please allow me to simplify it for your benefit:
1. Clarence Thomas was not blamed by me for anything done by the other justices on the Supreme Court. If you have evidence to the contrary, I invite you to kindly set it forth. Otherwise, I expect that you will duly acknowledge your error of commission in assuming facts not evident in my posting and falsely ascribing them to it.
Contrary to your misapprehension, Clarence Thomas was blamed for his -- and only his --actions in uniformly taking positions in his opinions (and no one else's) in opposition to any and all of the interests of people of his own race articulated before the Supreme Court.
2. Clarence Thomas was not accused of having "the power to stop others from taking the opportunity he took to get where he is today." That is yet another product of your misunderstanding of my posting.
Had you understood what I wrote, you would have duly understood the point I made in that regard, namely: That Clarence Thomas has acted consistently in support of the denial of the very same affirmative action programs from which he had benefited. That does not imply that he had the power to stop affirmative action, as you implied erroneously. It means only that he acted in opposition to it in an obvious attempt to try to stop it. Hopefully, you now understand the difference between Thomas' trying to stop affirmation action (what I actually wrote) and him having the power to stop it (what you stated you understood from my writing).
3. Clarence Thomas was not accused of being uneducated. Accordingly, your request that he be given credit for being educated is plainly irrelevant.
4. Finally, facts about Clarence Thomas do not depend "from which angle you chose to look at the man," as you claimed without citing evidence in support of your opinion. In other words, a fact does not change from one person to another as opinions do.
Therefore, if you perceive a vilification of Thomas in the statement that he is not edifying, unless you intend your statement to be regarded as your unsubstantiated opinion, you have an obligation of proof to discharge. You are obligated to show with facts how stating that Thomas is unedifying, as I did, constitutes his vilification. You did not do so. Hopefully, you will now correct your omission.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Lady J
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Date Posted: 15:04:12 10/01/07 ()
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Uncle Tom,
This is what I responded to when I read your posting this morning
Uncle Tom “Only a self-hating, vengeful blackman or black woman would find Clarence Thomas edifying. The only plausible explanation for Thomas' uniformly adversarial vitriolic opposition towards any and all of the interests of his own race is the one he himself reportedly gave, naturally out of the public arena:
That he wanted to punish blacks for opposing his nomination to the Supreme Court.
There can be no more despicable reason for a man -- black or white -- to remain on the highest court in America”.
Lady J’s Response
Uncle Tom,
Your point is well taken. On the other hand, be careful with your blanket statements against those who don't share your views on Clarence Thomas. (This is where I ended my response to you about your above statement).
The rest of my posting is in response to yesterday’s original thread.
Hence my response below that you chose to drag me to your “court room”
Uncle Tom wrote :
Clarence is ONE of NINE in the Supreme Court ... We can't heap all the blame on him."
Lady J:
Thank you for your reply. Unfortunately, your statement quoted above strongly suggests that you did not understand my posting. Accordingly, please allow me to simplify it for your benefit:
1. Clarence Thomas was not blamed by me for anything done by the other justices on the Supreme Court. If you have evidence to the contrary, I invite you to kindly set it forth. Otherwise, I expect that you will duly acknowledge your error of commission in assuming facts not evident in my posting and falsely ascribing them to it.
Evidence … Why would I blame YOU, when I wrote WE ….
Now to thios statement I made ... You may choose to VILIFY, others may chose to EDIFY ... There is no right or wrong here, it all depends from which angle you chose to look at the man.
Evidence … This is in response to the original thread about the man’s body of works …. He worked hard to get to where he is today …. Let me put this in another format … I may chose to VILFY, and you may chose to EDIFY the man’s work.
Now … Uncle Tom … Give me PERMISSION to correct this OMISSION…....
SUBMISSION Your point is well taken. On the other hand, be careful with your blanket statements against those who don't share your views on Clarence Thomas.
OMISSION: Now, I will proceed to make my own two cents on this thread.
I hope you are alright with the CORRECTION…
Oh …. One more thing … Uncle Tom “Only a self-hating, vengeful blackman or black woman would find Clarence Thomas edifying. Is this a fact?
Anyway good luck in your endeavors …. I liked your mock trial … That was good
I bet you had your Correctional facility prepared for me … You made my day.
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Uncle Tom
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Date Posted: 15:42:23 10/01/07 ()
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Lady J:
Thank you for your answers. I hope you will permit me to resply to them, starting with your following statement:
"Evidence … Why would I blame YOU, when I wrote WE …. "
1. The answer is obvious: Because by using "we," you included me in your blanket statement referring to those you consider as heaping ALL the blame on Thomas. My correction was intended to to point out the obvious fact that I am not one of those. Your use of "we" does not erase the fact that I am not.
2. You wrote: "Oh …. One more thing … Uncle Tom “Only a self-hating, vengeful blackman or black woman would find Clarence Thomas edifying. Is this a fact?."
The statement you ask about was is indeed a fact. This is because it is a conclusion resulting from two premises: a statement of the fact that Thomas has uniformly opposed affirmative action in cases at the Supreme Court, and a statement of the fact that Thomas has benefitted from the very same affirmative action that he now conveniently oposes.
3. If you have evidence to show that the above statements are not facts, please set it forth. Otherwise, please desist from making the empty statement that "be careful with your blanket statements against those who don't share your views on Clarence Thomas." Unless, of course you are asking me to "be careful" with stating facts!
4. The process of encouraging you to suport your claims of fact with evidence may evoke a courtroom to you. However, as any serious person would confirm for you, the need for verification of claims (be they made in the field of medicine, pyhsics, history, engineering, drama, etc.) spans the entire gamut of serious presentations, not just those done in a courtroom.
5. You should realize by now, therefore, that your reference to a correctional facility as an adjunct to this process is misplaced.
6. If you are replying to a thread, please be sure you reply to the specific "thread" -- otherwise, replying to my posting would lead me to believe, reasonably, that you are replying only to what I wrote.
I hope this matter has been sufficiently clarified.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Lady J
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Date Posted: 16:49:19 10/01/07 ()
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Uncle Tom,
Yes ... It has been Clarified.
Disclaimer:
The statement below is for my amusement only, and does not require a response
At first I was HORRIFIED, may be a little bit PETRIFIED to be NOTIFIED.
Now that the matter has been sufficiently CLARIFIED, I believe it's all been RECTIFIED.
It's time to be BEAUTIFIED....
Peace and Blessings
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Sam
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Date Posted: 03:32:12 10/01/07 ()
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At last, someone who actually "watched" the interview. Maybe some of the posters don't know who Thomas is and just see a man who came from nothing to the position he is in. While I firmly believe in and strongly support the two party US system (it would have been nicer if it was a multi party system) I can't see why any black person would want to be a republican. Karl Rove in a mid term election, went down south and got someone elected because he was waving the confederate flag and appealing to latent racism. Why would you want to be "partners" with people such as these?
It would be great if everyone could succeed on their merit, but at the very least, you have to be blind to suggest we do away with Affirmative Action. America is not fully equal opportunity yet and as such, we need laws in place that ensure everyone gets a fair chance. Thomas and every other republican that's bothered by this have issues. The interviewer also mentioned that because of his age, Thomas has the potential to become the longest serving SCJ. God help America!
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: The guy next door
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Date Posted: 13:21:44 10/01/07 ()
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Well said Sam, CT's position in life has not, and will never benefit his race as a whole. He considers Affirmative Action to be a hand out, but look at it this way: Think of a person that have been in shackels for 20 years, and one that have been free to roam for the same amount of time. Then on some day unchain the chained person and set him on a 100 meters dash with the other. Who wins?
Affirmative Action seeks to allow the underpreviledge to get up to speed. Black folks had no Doctors, Laywers and so on. Prior to Brown V.Board of Ed. blacks were not allowed to study in the same institutions as white. This act was delibrate, so it is in place that a delibrate measure is taken to minimize the delinquenc. CT. is where he is today, to a great extent because of Affirmative Action. I will go as far as to say he is a waste, he would have served his concience better had he been white thus, he is nothing but an UNCLE TOM.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Imran Silla
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Date Posted: 21:51:10 09/30/07 ()
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I wish to share this with you guys as you've raised an important subject. What do we mean by the word 'education' and who by our estimation is considered 'educated'.
My late dad would always say to me; " education is not about reading a few prescribed texts". Over the years i have come to associate myself with this expression. How much we might studied or the number of degrees or titles to our names cannot and should not be the sole determinant factor with regards to education.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Alieu sesay
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Date Posted: 11:28:13 10/01/07 ()
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Bra KUSHE ooh....I wax your neighbor in Moyamba.. Went to school with your Late-Brother habibu. he was in form four, while i was in form one...
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Imran Silla
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Date Posted: 17:59:42 10/01/07 ()
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They are my 'first' cousins. You wouldn't get that Imran on this forum.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Clarence Koroma
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Date Posted: 19:09:29 09/30/07 ()
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It is your likes who try to devalue education becuase you lack it. How can you compare taxi drivers to PhD holders. Obviously you are a primary school dropout!! Go to SLADEA and get some adult education, at least sex education so that you don't get gigantic family with no resources to maintain them.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: The guy next door
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Date Posted: 01:23:21 10/01/07 ()
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CK, I agree,the benefit of an education is immeasurable; however, to suggest that cab drivers are not to be compared with Ph.D holders I do not agree with. During the early and mid 80's the ride from New York's JFK, or any other city airport lasted 45 minute, and for all of that time you can be sure to find yourself engaged in the most interesting philosophical, interlectually stimulating conversation. Why? because, majority of the cab drivers were post graduate degree holders lacking job opportunity in their dicipline. Driving a cab afforded time flexibility, autonomy, and being a cab driver did not require highly specialized trainning thus, it was easy to get into.
Subject: Re: A YALE LAW DEGREE IS WORTH FIFTEEN CENTS
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 19:57:59 09/30/07 ()
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It's not the salary you make that matters, it's what you save..
Education is important, yes...but the ethics you bring to your station in life is more important..
Subject: BANK GOVRNOR JB ROGERS ABSCONDS FOR THEFT.
From: JOHNNY PAULKOROMA
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Date Posted: 18:23:09 09/30/07 ()
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WELCOME TO THE UNDERWORLD MR J.B ROGERS AND COME AND HIDE LIKE ME, OBVIOUSLY YOU DID NOT MAKE ANY MONEY FROM YOUR BOOK THAT IS WHY YOU RAN AWAY WITH ABOUT $700,000 OR MORE THAN 2 BILLION DOLLARS, WE GO SEE YOU EN YOU GO FEEL AM NAH YOU YEAR. DON'T COME TO AMERICA O.K. AS WE WILL CATCH YOU AND HAND YOU OVER TO SIERRA LEONE.
Subject: Re: BANK GOVRNOR JB ROGERS ABSCONDS FOR THEFT.
From: OWAI OSAI
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Date Posted: 18:28:09 09/30/07 ()
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This guy should be tried for treason
Subject: Re: BANK GOVRNOR JB ROGERS ABSCONDS FOR THEFT.
From: momoh liba
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Date Posted: 18:27:01 09/30/07 ()
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what book did he write? About stealing money from Sierra Leone. Let us catch up with him fast before it is too late.
Subject: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: KMB - Kasseh Bureh Makonteh
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Date Posted: 17:00:10 09/30/07 ()
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I am APC through and through. I despise SLPP and their backwardness, vindictfulness and narrow tribalism. However, there is something malignant about my party, which is never far from the surface. The institution of travel restrictions on SLPP ministers feel me with dread. President Koroma said that this was not a coup but a democratic change of government. Well, someone must remind the president that in democratic change of government, you do not impose travel bans or curtail the freedom of citizens outside of the judicial system. This latest action is counter productive and sends all the wrong signals. We must grow-up as a nation if we are to stand a chance. I am sick and tired of chasing the past and retribution - lets focus on the future.
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 21:51:36 09/30/07 ()
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Please listen to what President Koroma says about strenthening DEMOCRACY and ACCOUNTABILITY on the TV programme
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 19:44:14 09/30/07 ()
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I applaud the president's decision. Until there is a thorough audit of all ministries and parastatals, no functionary should be allowed out of the country. This is not a blow against democracy, it is a blow against corruption. I hope the police are not just focusing on Lungi airport. I hope they are also keeeping a close eye on the Liberia and Guinea borders.
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 20:41:12 09/30/07 ()
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“No functionary should be allowed out of the country”, says Mammy Blessing.
But according to Mr. Foh, they’ve already been travelling back and forth, surely straight to the honeypot to take care of business (perhaps under the watchful eyes of detectives on the other side?)
"The President asked them to continue reporting for work in a bid to facilitate a smooth transition," Foh observed.
"It means that they are still serving. But, during this period, the ministers keep travelling out of the country without taking leave of the President or the Government. Is that right? Some of them are travelling every week: Why? For what? Foh retorted.”
There have been coups galore in West Africa, with all kinds of military governments. Mr. Kabbah’s friend Sani Abacha was a military ruler of Nigeria.
We’ve had an eleven-year Civil War, Freetown was bombed to bring Mr. Kabbah back from exile in Guinea, people have suffered tremendously and yet what happened?
Great sums of money poured in from International goodwill and international donor generosity to improve the lives of the poor people of Sierra Leone. And what happened?
Without any bad conscience much of that and other of the Sierra Leone’s peoples money disappeared. How much does a Sierra Leone minister earn? A Sierra Leone high official? Do they earn enough to be in possession of several houses in and out of the country and jeeps, and bank accounts and fabulous investments and the lives of conspicuous consumption, whilst some workers have to walk from Wellington to work in town because they cannot afford to take a poda-poda bus?
Business men return from Sierra Leone, disgusted, because they were solicited for bribes etc even as that government said, “We are open for business” and talked about a favourable climate for investments.
It’s difficult to understand WHY after successive Auditor-General’s reports no Commissions of Inquiry were instituted by the SLPP government to investigate and prosecute those from whose custody astronomical sums of money went “Missing”.
Anyone guilty of money laundering, peddling favours and much worse?
The assumption is that we are a bunch of stupid onlookers who have nothing better to do but to look at them with admiration or envy – their assumption is that we probably want to be ministers like them etc.
It should not be presumed that every one of them is guilty, unless you can finish this sentence appropriately.
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 21:07:45 09/30/07 ()
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Cornelius, what astute commentary! The sad reality is that high government criminals have never been brought to book with real repercussion. Unless the law starts to sanction these criminals includung stiff jail sentences, the culture of impunity that has devastated the country will continue unabated.
I hope the president will reengineer the Anti Corruption Commission so that it will have real power and independence to go after the high and mighty thieves who have been untouchable so far. The commissioner should be someone of unsullied reputation, balls of steel and the confidence of the president. I think the appointment of the ACC boss is more important than that of ministers. It will give us an indication of where the president wants to take the country.
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 21:35:30 09/30/07 ()
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Missef don begin VEX now…..
In addition to balls of steel, he should also hate corruption and there should be “no more mercy in him than there is milk in a male tiger”
But in that case I fear that none of them apart from e.g. Dennis Bright the sportsman might possibly survive.
Very important: AS we say in Nigeria, they should VOMIT the money!
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Nigeria%27s++looted+money+returned
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 22:08:42 09/30/07 ()
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Let the vomiting begin!
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: Ernest Koroma
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Date Posted: 00:32:40 10/01/07 ()
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you are too nasty..
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: Erica Adams
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Date Posted: 18:52:27 09/30/07 ()
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Why are they taking unauthorized leave when their boss has asked them to report to work? Why would you imply the president's action is immature when it was the insubordination of these ministers part that has caused him to take this drastic action. Obviously these ministers were not traveling abroad on official state business. When you take leave from your job, don't you have to request leave from your boss? It is up to your boss to decide if leave will be granted. Furthermore, depending on the nature of your job, your boss may decide you can not be granted leave at a particular time because it's a busy time for the organization. I think it is very inconsiderate of these ministers to insist on traveling abroad during this critical time of transition. If they truly have concern for the country (win or lose), they would do what is best. Considering the way this mess was dropped in the president's lap, the least the ministers from the former government could do is help with a smooth transition. That would be the grown up thing to do.
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 21:20:29 09/30/07 ()
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The Anti-Corruption Commission was started on 3rd February 2003. Since then it has prosecuted a dozen or so small fry.
YES IT IS DEMOCRACY AND SO IS THIS SPEECH:
These are extracts from a SPEECH BY THE RT. HON. CLARE SHORT MP SECRETARY OF STATE FOR
INTERNATIONAL DEVELOPMENT
BRITISH COUNCIL AUDITORIUM,
FREETOWN, and SIERRA LEONE
27 FEBRUARY 2002
Today
I want to say, in no uncertain terms, to all who are planning to contest the forthcoming elections, that the tradition of corruption must be brought to an end. Sierra Leone has a long history of terrible misgovernment – not because it is poor – but because it is naturally rich. The colonial regime, neighbouring countries, rebels and governments since independence, have all misused this country because they wanted access to the rich minerals – diamonds and rutile with which nature has endowed this beautiful country. Sierra Leone will not have a secure and happy future unless the people of this country approach these forthcoming elections with an absolute determination that corruption will be rooted out of public life and that the rich natural resources will be managed transparently and properly so that they bring real benefits to the people of Sierra Leone.
I want to make clear today that the UK Government is committed to stand by Sierra Leone for the long-term provided that we have a strong mutual commitment to the building of a competent, transparent and uncorrupt modern state. Before saying more about that I want to say something about the prospects of the people of Africa as we look forward to our new century.
Africa has suffered many cruelties from history – slavery and colonialism, independence boundaries inherited from a colonial carve up that cut across natural groupings of people and geography. And then the Cold War with arms being supplied and aid being used to tie governments to the protagonists rather than to democracy and development for their people.
For these and other reasons of misgovernment and geography, Africa is the poorest continent. The levels of poverty are deeper than anywhere else in the world – 46% of the population of sub-Saharan Africans are living in abject poverty – on less than $1 a day. And poverty in Africa is deeper than it is elsewhere.
On present trends, the world is on course to meet the international target, agreed at the Millennium Conference of the United Nations, of halving poverty by 2005 and life will get steadily better for the poor of Asia. But at present trends poverty will get worse for the people of Africa. If Africa is to reach the target, then sub-Saharan Africa needs 7% economic growth every year across the continent until 2015. There are some countries that are achieving these rates of growth – Botswana, Mozambique and Uganda. I am hopeful that some of the new reformers will forward to these levels of growth - South Africa, Ghana and Ethiopia. But we must all be clear, at present rates of economic growth, Africa is set to become steadily poorer. On present trends, population growth is outstripping economic growth and that means poverty will grow invincibly.
We must all commit ourselves to change this trend. That is the purpose of NEPAD – the New Partnership for African Development – an agenda for major reform led by African countries. And this is why the UK, alongside other OECD countries – with the passionate commitment of our Prime Minister, Tony Blair – is strongly committed to forging a new partnership for African development in order to offer the people of the continent a better future.
”For Sierra Leone the other great threat for the future is corruption.
Corruption, either grand (the looting of state coffers by those in public trust, the illegal trading in diamonds) or petty (the charge demanded by a low-ranking official for a service that should be free), remains endemic in Sierra Leone. It has become a way of life for many. Society has come to accept, even expect, corruption. As always the poor suffer most, and the poorest of the poor most of all. They are denied access to education, healthcare and medicine because they cannot afford to make the extra payments demanded by corrupt officials. They are denied justice when the legal system is twisted by bribery. And they suffer when corruption diverts scarce resources away from development or deters essential domestic and international investment.
The system for prosecuting those found out is itself corrupted by inertia, and the failure to punish those responsible. The temptation therefore remains. Too many of the people entering politics and the civil service in Sierra Leone do so in order to make money. Personal gain, or loyalty to family, tribe or party, is put before national interest. And the consequence of this is that the country is damaged and everyone loses out.
These problems are not, of course, confined to Sierra Leone – they flourish wherever systems are flabby, wherever the institutional environment within government is weak and ineffective, and wherever transparency and accountability is lacking. And let us be clear, the difference between OECD countries and developing countries, is not that one set of people or more moral or more corrupt than another. As you all know, Western Business and in particular, arms dealers, have in the past tended to spread bribery and corruption. But we currently have a chance for a leap forward. The OECD Convention on Bribery requires all OECD countries to strengthen their law to make bribery of a public official abroad a criminal offence. The Convention also requires us to cease to make bribes tax deductible which – to our shame – they have been in many countries up until now.
In Sierra Leone, as in many other countries, while financial systems are weak people will engage in corruption. Departmental budgets are not linked to clear objectives, the Public Accounts Committee and other Parliamentary Committees are unable or unwilling to exercise their authority, and Parliament lacks the degree of independence it needs if it is to be able to apply checks and balances to government actions. Many areas of government have never been audited.
Lack of information on government expenditures prevents the people from holding government to account. Even when information is available, civil society is weak and there are few channels through which it can engage effectively with government. There is also a lack of capacity in the local press and other media to investigate and expose corrupt practices in government.
Sierra Leone has got to clean up its act fast if it is to remain at peace and offer a better future to its children. There is a need to root out those practices that corrode public trust, impoverish those who are most in need, and choke off investment and economic progress. Now that government control over the country has been re-established, there is an urgent need to ensure that government services are delivered in outlying areas. Financing these services effectively will require a reduction in both petty and grand corruption. The problem has got to be dealt with promptly and effectively if Sierra Leone is to attract the levels of donor support and investment that is needed to fund reconstruction, regenerate economic activities, and deliver government services throughout the country.
WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE
In order to tackle these problems, the existing anti-corruption programme must continue. And let me make it clear, President Kabbah has made a strong personal stand against corruption. It was on his personal initiative that the Anti-Corruption Commission was set up. But he has only a handful of Ministers and officials helping him. And this is not good enough. Whoever wins the election, there must be a much stronger commitment to anti-corruption and the UK will make this a strong condition for all our future help to Sierra Leone. The country needs to start work immediately after the election to set out a coherent strategy for dealing with the problem. The strategy needs to be about stopping corruption and strengthening financial management and accountability within government. For its part, the international community needs to get behind this strategy and give its full support. The UK Government stands ready to offer our help in drafting this, and in providing the technical and other assistance needed to carry the process forward. We are committed to standing by Sierra Leone for the long term provided we have a partnership to root out corruption.
As I see it, there are five broad areas that require attention.
First,
fostering a new attitude in civil servants and politicians. The lead must be taken by the highest levels of government, and a clear message delivered, that corruption will no longer be tolerated in public service. Public service must be put before private gain. Blind eyes should no longer be turned. Those caught should be shamed, persecuted and disqualified from public office.
But we must understand enforcement action alone is never enough. Systems must also be put in place to prevent corruption. There must be proper management of the civil service, and proper remuneration to reduce the incentive to seek bribes. Transparent public procurement is essential. There is no justice and no proper enforcement of contracts without an effective and impartial judiciary. And the transparent funding of political parties is essential to guard against corruption of the electoral process.
Second,
strengthening systems of control and accountability within government. We are already providing support for the Anti-Corruption Commission, the Governance Reform Secretariat, the law development programme, and reform of the Police and the Military. We intend to strengthen this work and encourage the World Bank and others to work jointly on this.
I have already referred to the rarity of adequate audit both within government and among its agencies. The Auditor General's office needs to be strengthened to enable it to carry out these tasks. Depending upon the results of the World Bank-led financial accountability assessments, we may consider offering longer-term technical assistance to the Auditor General's office. We also strongly recommend that independent audits of quasi-governmental organisations such as the University and the State Owned enterprises, many of which have not been audited for decades, be conducted.
Third,
the enforcement of anti-corruption legislation needs to be improved, including the investigation capability of the Anti-Corruption Commission , and the prosecution capacity of the Attorney General's Office. Those charged by the Anti-Corruption Commission must be tried fairly and promptly in order to prevent political interference in the judicial process.
Fourth,
the management of the country's diamond resources must be put on the right footing, so that the income derived can be harnessed for the benefit of the country as a whole. We have recently published an independent report that sets out a range of policy options and actions needed to achieve this aim. I hope all Sierra Leoneans who are interested in the diamond industry will read it. Here again, rooting out the corruption that has plagued the industry is at the heart of the report's recommendations. Better standards must be set, and adhered to. Better policies must be established for the control and licensing of mining, both artisanal and kimberlite. Adequate security has to be put in place, to increase the confidence of investors. And marketing arrangements must be improved. This is a long list. But Sierra Leone will remain mired in corruption if the diamond industry is not properly managed. The UK stands ready to provide the technical support needed to help the Government of Sierra Leone select and prioritise from the range of options, and then implement the chosen reforms.
Finally,
the accountability of government to the people must be improved. DFID's current programme encourages accountability through our support for the electoral process, our media development work and other programmes. We intend expanding this work by supporting the government to develop its Poverty Reduction Strategy Paper, through a process that is as widely participatory as possible. Our support to the Public Expenditure Tracking Surveys, and their open publication, will help to improve public accountability for government spending.
We have also just started, in conjunction with the World Bank Institute, a corruption survey in Sierra Leone, following up and extending a previous survey carried out in 2000. This will collect information about the experience and perceptions of corruption by citizens of Sierra Leone, thus establishing baseline data that will enable improvements to be monitored over the coming years. There must be regular surveys so that we have a means of checking that progress is continuing.
CONCLUSION
New attitudes, better financial systems, prosecution of the guilty, better management of diamonds and real accountability to the people. This, then, is the agenda for change. In taking it forward, the leading role must obviously be taken by the people and Government of Sierra Leone. But tackling corruption effectively requires a real focus, coordinated action and shared responsibility. Everyone's energies must be thrown behind this anti-corruption strategy. It is the key to a better future for the people of Sierra Leone and the avoidance of a return to conflict.
As you know the UK is providing long-term help to train and restructure the new Sierra Leone Armed Forces, and help with humanitarian relief, DDR and the building of government capacity to provide proper services to all the people. We are currently spending £100 million each year to support peacekeeping, training of the armed forces, relief and development. We are willing to maintain our efforts on the basis of a committed partnership to maintain peace, reduce poverty and promote a better future for all the people of Sierra Leone. This requires a strong determination to root out corruption. On this basis the UK is willing to remain engaged in Sierra Leone for the long term. I hope that every politician that is planning the forthcoming elections understands that the old politics is finished and that an expectation of corrupt rewards has no place in the new Sierra Leone.”
http://www.sierra-leone.org/ACCreport2002-appendixi.html
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: JB ROGERS
To: All
Date Posted: 18:32:59 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
SHUT UP YOU APC COWARD. COWARDS LIKE YOU MADE ME RUN AWAY WITH BILLIONS OF LEONES AND I AM NOW LIVING IN MY MANSION IN LONDON MESMERIZING ALL THOSE YOUNG JUVIES I HAD BROUGHT OVER, CONSIDER THIS MY FRINGE BENEFITS. WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT LET HON SWARRAY DEEN ABSOND AS HE HAS OVER 500 PEICES OF DIAMONDS WITH HIM VALUED OVER 20 MILLION DOLLARS, MONEY THAT COULD BUILD 5 HOSPITALS FOR THE SICK.
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: KING LOGGY
To: All
Date Posted: 17:58:12 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
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Subject: Re: It is an executive action
From: M. Alieu Iscandrari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 17:48:44 09/30/07 ()
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you do not impose travel bans or curtail the freedom of citizens outside of the judicial system. This latest action is counter productive and sends all the wrong signals.
___________________________________
The president does not need to have a Judicial action to act against members of the executive. The government ministers are under the EXECUTIVE BRANCH and any actions which are non punitive in nature and non permanent directed against them is within the purview of the executive and thus legal.
was it necessary for the president to temporarily prevent employees of the executive branch from UNAUTHORISED travel? I would argue yes and heres why. There is a transition going on, and it is general knowledge that the prevcious government wass neck deep in corruption and graft. Traveling outside of the country within the period of the transition makes little or no sense in that those who are very involved in corruption would use the opportuinty of traveling outside of the country for the purpose of "absconding from JUSTICE.
this act only sends the wrong signals ONLY to the people who are in support of the massive corruption that has taken place.
In sum, Executive actions such as this is within the prerogative of the Executive branch and are as such proper.
Subject: Re: It is an executive action
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 18:51:42 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: mfofana2004@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
Message:
Alieu,
The Point I will agree with is that they are still working under the executive branch, since they have not been replaced yet. The president made that clear to them. As such they should not travel in and out pf the county as they doing now. Also, traveling of the same person(s) or group of people in and out of the country at this crucial moment will be very suspicious.
As for the embezzlement and frauds, Why has this not been done long time to expose the culprits? I think that there should be and independent or outside audit farm that should audit every ministry each year. The report of such audit should be published, and the culprit tried on time for justice to take its course on time. We don't have to wait until the person is out of office to do the auditing. Let us do yearly. Yearly audit will also act as deterrent to Corrupt people. If that is not constitutional, then I think that the constitution needs to be amended to include yearly audit for all ministries, and departments. Let us try to prevent corruption instead of waiting for it be done and act!!!
Subject: Re: It is an executive action
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 19:17:43 09/30/07 ()
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Message:
I agree with most of your point and also what to remind you that there was a so called Independent Anti Corruption Commission (ACC) which was hampered by the very ministers who are now unease with the situation and want to flee the country. I think what the president has done is in line with an attempt to make sure there is a smooth transition not only handing power to the new government, but to account on each ministry.
Subject: Re: It is an executive action
From: foday mansaray
To: All
Date Posted: 23:07:41 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: fmansaray@aol.com
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74
Message:
Just for clarification purpuse,This govt. is at work and as far as corruption,I predict we will have first in our history 'office of the Procecutor General' and will have all the powers to arrest,indict and convict to the full extend of the law. This President does not have any time for commission of inquiry or anti corruption commission.
Sierra Leone has to move forward and nothing will stop this government to succeed.To those nar sayers and those who wants to try the system, please go ahead and do it.
Good bless sierra leone and all who wish her success.
Say Amen.
Subject: Re: It is an executive action
From: Lawrence Billgreyhood.
To: All
Date Posted: 18:13:52 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
One thing you’re failing to realize Foday Mansaray, Sierra Leone is not a province in North Korea or China. Our country is a Democratic State. The president will have to abide by the rules of the constitution. If you think he can just come in as a “Dictator,” then he is going to be short - lived. I give him a term and the people will “Kick” him out of office as they did the corrupt S.L.P.P party. My advise to you is to tone down that aggressive thought.
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 17:03:01 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
Message:
So you are suggesting that,these folks should not account for their duties?
Subject: Re: Is this Democracy, Mr President
From: Bamaby Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 21:18:49 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Greetings my brothers and sisters, I agree with most of your statements particularly those who are advocating the correctness of the President's action as being within the confines of the constitution of Sierra Leone.
On the contrary, for those who have or might see the action as being highhanded, I want to suggest that we read the fine prints. The statement is not saying that the President is banning Ministers and governmental functionaries from traveling outside the country. The President is not holding or forbidding any one from traveling within and outside Sierra Leone. However, he is saying that before any one does, especially if such a person had dealings with state funds, to get clearance from the Police. If one is cleared by the Police, heh, you can leave today, tomorrow, the other day and the other time. But the bag must be checked. Is not for anything, just that we live in a very unsure world, where certain bags have glue that will incidentally get stocked to something, Cockroach, arrata or whatever. He just don't want them to be mistaken for terrorist who might be suspected of taking arathrax to other people's country.
On a serious note, this is what we must read carefully because it is perceivable that we are putting words in the President's mouth, probably from misreading the following: "Though the statement did not give a reason for the edict, it follows on promises by Koroma when he was sworn in Sept. 17 that he would adopt "zero tolerance on corruption and the mismanagement of state resources" in the country, which is still recovering from years of bloodshed.
The Ministers were required to continue work and so they have done. The writers who suggest that one cannot leave office without informing the bus are correct but he, the President did not even ask them to bid him farewell. He only asks that they get clearance.
In fact, no one except Diplomats can leave Sierra Leone or any country for that matter, without getting clearance from the Police, Immigration or what have you. When one leaves America, one is properly searched at the airport for security reasons. So if that is within the confines of the democratic whims how come the President's edict is perceived to be outside democratic confines especially when the only thing he requires is clearance from the Police?
If one goes with knife through the America gates, one will be asked to live it but if such a person has any connections with terrorists or has committed a treasonable offense, such a person is reprimanded, which is said to be in national interest.
Therefore, considering the many turbulence we have had in Sierra Leone, corruption being the causative agent, the President will be seeking national interest should reports show latter that the government coffers is intact and what should be there is there. But if what is to be there is not there, then what do you think will happen in Sierra Leone? We will go back to war, kill many more than ever happened in the previous war. Do you wish for that to happen or Ministers to have minor inconveniences? It is not even inconvenience if they have done everything accordingly.
Subject: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:19:05 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
Message:
His Excellency,your decision to check the movements of all ex-ministers is the right thing in the right direction.They should give an account of their previous duties before relinquishing any office to a successor.TRANSPARENCY, FIGHTING CORRUPTION.BRAVO
Subject: Re: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: keke blahima
To: All
Date Posted: 17:32:41 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: epa@gmail.com
Entered From: c-24-13-121-79.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 24.13.121.79
Message:
I don't see any problem with Koroma's request. It should not be a big issue. Army officers are required to get police clearance even for government sponsored official trips. It is not a restriction or freedom of movement, it is simply accounting for movement of government officials in and out of the country, especially those with access to public funds. Laws are meant for all not the few.
Subject: Re: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: Med
To: All
Date Posted: 16:28:48 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.114.66.82
Message:
It’s a standard procedure, as a matter of fact; all successive governments had undertaken such measures, except for Kabbas’ administration that gave unchecked exit to NPRC loots.
People would rather want to see/hear ‘TRANSPARENCY, FIGHTING CORRUPTION’ in action rather than maintaining the status quo.
Subject: Re: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: Jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 17:00:53 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-24-13-121-79.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 24.13.121.79
Message:
NPRC loots NPRC loots NPRC loots NPRC loots
More Electricity than the preceeding and the succeeding governemt
Stable consumer price on bacis necessity compared to the preceeding and the succeeding governemt
Stable foreign exchange compared to the succeedng government
100% increase in public sector wages
Stable price of fuel,kerosene and public transportation
National TV station switch turned back on
Briging Sankoh the author of killings looting and mayhem to the table
First Zone 2 trophy
How soon we forget.
Subject: Re: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: Lawrence Billgreyhood.
To: All
Date Posted: 18:29:38 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: caintdef.sbc.com at 144.160.130.16
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Jackal, though I hated those NPRC guys so bad, but I think you are right. That’s one of the best group Sierra Leone has ever had. Some of us are jealous because they were young and “Screwing” our chicks. I am not hating. If I were in there position, I will do the same. Sierra Leone was well better off under the NPRC (There was light, and the country was very clean.) Well, let’s see what this new government is going to do.
Subject: Re: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: Med
To: All
Date Posted: 17:07:40 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.114.66.82
Message:
You are comparing, NPRC loots as against achievements, DON’T START THAT, PLEASE…
Subject: Re: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: Jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 17:22:07 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-24-13-121-79.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 24.13.121.79
Message:
Name the loots and comapre it to achievements.
I assume corruption in office is not equivalent, it is worse than looting. Do we agree on that? I have named something tangible please spell out looting and tell me what RUF was doing?
Subject: Re: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:43:45 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
Message:
Are you suggesting arrests,humiliation etc?We have to be careful and do things in sequence.I think,His Excellency got the first step right
Subject: Re: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: Med
To: All
Date Posted: 16:54:41 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.114.66.82
Message:
I have not suggested any of the above; I was just cautioning your anxiety, rather don’t be naïve, this particular procedure is normal, we have seen it before.
Subject: Re: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:59:44 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
Message:
So what should be the first step of an incoming President?My understanding is that,you are not infavor of such moves or just pessimistic
Subject: Re: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: Med
To: All
Date Posted: 17:05:04 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.114.66.82
Message:
Guess you’re ok, I just don’t think that such question with an understanding deservers an answer.
Cheers.
Subject: Re: EX-MINISTERS CHECKED-GOOD MOVE,MR PRESIDENT
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 17:13:48 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
Message:
Sometimes it is better to be mute than making pointless criticism.
cheers
Subject: Koroma takes a stand
From: Boli
To: All
Date Posted: 15:50:35 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: Boli@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-65-70-31.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.65.70.31
Message:
I understand no outgoing ministers are allowed to travel without the knowledge of the IG of police.
Good on you Mr President....about time
NO TO CENSORSHIP AND SYCHOPHANCY
Subject: SAY NO TO CENSORSHIP - ONE POST = ONE VOTE
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 15:27:33 09/30/07 ()
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Message:
Say no to retrictions on forumites and meaningful content on this fora.
We the people have decided that we will protest the recent development and veiled threats coming from the mods and props of cocorioko.
We do not take kindly to subliminal coercion and see it fit to register a protest to such. We all cant be batomen or seen toeing the line.
Signed
Candid O
Subject: Re: SAY NO TO CENSORSHIP - ONE POST = ONE VOTE
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 19:28:40 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
My position is very clear. Any effort to tinker with the success of this forum makes no sense at all. I have been to Awareness Times and other fora: Very stilted discourse with maybe four or five regulars all agreeing and vapidly complimenting one another. Made me want to barf! Cocorioko: multiple opinions, multiple attitudes; not a boring moment. Who can ask for anything more?
We love Cocorioko just the way it is.
Subject: Re: SAY NO TO CENSORSHIP - ONE POST = ONE VOTE
From: komaneh
To: All
Date Posted: 15:49:25 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
WHAT? WE Stand united.. no censorship...
Subject: Re: SAY NO TO CENSORSHIP - ONE POST = ONE VOTE
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 15:48:37 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I say NO WAY to censorship...
Subject: Re: SAY NO TO CENSORSHIP - ONE POST = ONE VOTE
From: Boli
To: All
Date Posted: 15:47:44 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: Boli@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-65-70-31.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.65.70.31
Message:
All Kabs wants is for people to 'brown nose' and be sycophantic.....NO WAY
Subject: Re: SAY NO TO CENSORSHIP - ONE POST = ONE VOTE
From: NO
To: All
Date Posted: 15:35:20 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h175.79.89.75.ip.alltel.net at 75.89.79.175
Message:
NO TO CENSORSHIP
Subject: Re: SAY NO TO CENSORSHIP - ONE POST = ONE VOTE
From: Cocorioko the best
To: All
Date Posted: 15:52:31 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253
Message:
Why do you forward that forum to us ? Do you think it is better than cocorioko ?noooooooo.You have more crazy people there than here, including worworliwor , john Mannah, Alpha Saidu Bangura , Bigtex, Moose etc.
Subject: Re: SAY NO TO CENSORSHIP - ONE POST = ONE VOTE
From: bkabisco
To: All
Date Posted: 18:18:31 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: bkabisco@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-193-52-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.193.52.177
Message:
For cocorioko to demonstrate any modicum of credibility, the editor must maintain a hands off approach to the discourse within this forum. To attempt to stymie and muffle voices of dissent would be inconsistent with the democratic process that we are touting in Sierra Leone. I have heard of people being banned for holding a view that is considered odious and contrary to the accepted view on this forum. The likes of Big Tex come to mind. If their banning is as a result of their vigorous defense of their positions, I would submit that such an action is inconsistent with freedom of speech of those individuals. Lest we forget, Freedom of speech and the press are the life-blood of any democratic society. As we struggle to develop a more tolerant society, I implore the editorial board of this paper to resist the temptation to censor speech that they find detestable.
Subject: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: BRA ENVIABLE
To: All
Date Posted: 14:56:49 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
COCORIOKO is a resourceful site to Sierra Leoneans all over the world, and I love this web site with innermost feelings.
Away from Cocorioko's importance to Sierra Leoneans, sonorous bells must be rung to al3rt Kabs Kanu to the fact that be it unknowingly or otherwise, this internet medium is slowly beginning to look like an APC megaphone. The compliments, praises and decorated assertions coming from Cocorioko to Ernest Koroma have been so overtly smarmy that the editorial board could be mistaken for a batch of APC salesmen. This, of course, is only an opinion coming from my wary mind, and those at variance with this view should not mistake my leeriness for an accusation.
As an intellectual that loves Sierra Leone with every vein in his heart, Kabs Kanu will surely not mortgage his journalistic name to sycophancy. My suspicion is that Kabs Kanu is so enthralled by the removal of the inept SLPP that the brother has forgotten that political honeymoons are brief rather than enduring. Let us end the honeymoon and look at Koroma with eyes wakeful enough to make the political class feel besieged by a restive population. If Koroma succeeds where others failed, I will campaign, defend and praise the APC while remaining a PMDC man. I love Sierra Leone more than I love any political party. Any leader or political party serving as a conveyor belt for the development of Sierra Leone will always be my political choice.
Apart from winning an election, Ernest Koroma is yet to show us the tact and political nerve setting him apart from the moribund system he replaced. The political beautification of President Koroma should be put on hold until the President tests his mettle against the numerous problems before us as a nation.
An opinion like this one may not make me endearing to some people. The fact, though, is that on public forums, the option is starkly clear: Either be a double-tongued speaker by expressing insincere opinions, or simply say your mind with the truest intentions. After all, real friends will always continue to be friends even you differ with them over issues.
The purpose of this posting is to remind Kabs kanu that idolatry brands of journalism can comprise the quality of leadership in a young democracy like ours. Let us praise Koroma when successes are scored, and get him pilloried in the media when he abandons his oath of office. If President Koroma reads all the beautiful felicties about him on Cocorioko, he will probably assume that he is the BEST political thing in Sierra Leonean history. Until we see him in action, president Koroma should be greeted with skimpy amounts of praises and a noticeable degree of cynicism. We have suffered to long to be easily fooled like Spring chickens!
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 18:57:33 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
If your read the honey dripping write up on Awareness Times describing the president, you could easily say the same thing about them.
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Ernest Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 00:37:45 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-83-147-157.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.83.147.157
Message:
Erica, you are th most stupid participant on this forum. You obviously are a brainless fanatic. Do you by chance have a sexual relationship with some APC thug?
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Erica Adams
To: All
Date Posted: 17:31:49 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: ericamonique82@hotmail.com
Entered From: adsl-074-185-005-235.sip.clt.bellsouth.net at 74.185.5.235
Message:
No. Unlike you, I only have relations with my own husband and he is not a thug, but I know you specialize in them. I love you anyway Sylvia.
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 17:03:20 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-308472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.48
Message:
Dear Admin,
Could you please delete my two earlier posts in this thread?
Thank you.
Bra Enviable,
You are all so romantic about honey moons etc whilst you leader is thinking about his new broom…..
Understandably the old ministers have to hand over to the new as the English bard wrote,
” And slowly answer’d Arthur from the barge:
“The old order changeth, yielding place to new,
And God fulfils himself in many ways,
Lest one good custom should corrupt the world.”
Two questions: Can you imagine what is must be like – feel like, to be the former president and vice-president of Sierra Leone? No more immunity, no more real POW-er.
As a PMDC faithful you must have read this:
http://www.peepsierraleone.com/news/templates/article.asp?articleid=63&zoneid=8
Did you also read this?
http://www.peepsierraleone.com/news/templates/article.asp?articleid=64&zoneid=8
The Foreign press has also been accused of having pro- APC sympathies and biases. We often get breaking news from the foreign media. We also get a lot of informed opinion from that source too – just as the foreign-based Sierra Leoneans who contribute to the on -line Sierra Leone papers are among the most fearless, knowing as they do that they are not likely to be easily arraigned before Judge Rashid for casting - as we say in Sierra Leone, for casting any “aspersions” on the tailless chimpanzee.
There is only a handful of Sierra Leone papers on line which keep us posted about what’s happening and they account for the occasional storm in a tea cup.
It’s normal for a political party to have a party paper just as it’s normal for some papers to have party leanings....I’d classify the Patriotic Vangaurd, Standard Times, Cocorioko, The New Citizen, and EXPO TIMES as pro-APC papers.
http://www.expotimes.net/
and for mostly independent critical opinion I’d award the medal to these guys:
http://www.christian-monitor.org/cms/
Cotton Tree news is a new starter.
The”NEW PEOPLE” loudly – vociferously, nastily and sometimes ignorantly too: very SLPP.
A cursory visit will not convince you that they are otherwise , although they may be simmering down, getting less wild ( tamer) wagging their tails at a lower frequency than when the election results were pending and they were hoping to avert reality and truth – or at least a delay in facing truth , by seeking an “ injunction”. But that’s all cooled down now as they lick their wounds in defeat - and lets hope that those wounds don’t fester into some incurable sores – because there is the possibility that they could fester for at least another five years. At the moment if as much as an innocent pin drops, they jump up to criticize.
“The new people on line” is the worst newspaper I have ever read - It’s the worst Sierra Leone paper on the web today, libellous, misinformative and criminally so, carrying stories such as,” Ernest Bai Koroma is going to destroy Kenema and Kailahun for not supporting him” and some other idiotic and hysterical pro-SLPP chatter – all understandable as symptoms and signs of a semi-literate society. But they have their stars, their shining lights and their dimwits, trying to illuminate the darkness that surrounds them. If during Ahmad Tejan Kabbah’s heyday, the APC had had that kind of so called New Peoples’ obnoxious propaganda of the very worst type – making Philip Neville and Paul Kamara little innocent angels of angelic intent, then they would all be spending their last days languishing in solitary confinement as did Paul Kamara, in the late Foday Sankoh’s cell.
But the media is important, as you know it’s good for the APC – or any other government for that matter to have a good relationship with the press.
You claim that, “Apart from winning an election, Ernest Koroma is yet to show us the tact and political nerve setting him apart from the moribund system he replaced.”
Well it seems to me that he has not even yet REPLACED the SLPP ministers and I was shocked to read the following:
1. “According to National Secretary General of the ruling All People's Congress (APC) party, Victor Bockarie Foh, the decision was prompted by actions of outgoing government ministers, who keep travelling abroad "as and when they like without taking leave of the newly- elected government".
After his induction, President Koroma sacked no minister. "The President asked them to continue reporting for work in a bid to facilitate a smooth transition," Foh observed.
"It means that they are still serving. But, during this period, the ministers keep travelling out of the country without taking leave of the President or the Government. Is that right? Some of them are travelling every week: Why? For what? Foh retorted.
He said the police brought to government's attention information regarding frequent travels by ministers and heads of government institutions.
That is why the transitional committee decided to institute checks and balances on the travelling activities of government ministers and heads of government institutions, Foh explained to journalists here Sunday.”
I find it difficult to believe that those SLPP ministers are still running their ministries and haven’t handed over yet!!! And not only that, have been going back and forth to take care of business!!!!
No further comments.
Sierra Leone govt imposes travel check on ex-ministers
http://www.afriquenligne.fr/news/daily-news/sierra-leone-govt-imposes-travel-check-on-ex%11ministers-200709309679/
Sierra Leone requires special clearance for outgoing officials to leave country
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/09/30/africa/AF-POL-Sierra-Leone-Government.php
http://www.sierraherald.com/
A great man Thomas N. Hull check his speech on
“Building Issue-based Coalitions as an Effective Strategy for Protecting Freedom of Expression in Sierra Leone”
http://freetown.usembassy.gov/sp011706.html
Check his other speeches: Thomas N. Hull – they are all very helpful
http://freetown.usembassy.gov/hull_speeches.html
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 16:45:47 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-308472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.48
Message:
corrected:
Bra Enviable,
You are all so romantic about honey moons etc whilst you leader is thinking about his new broom…..
Understandably the old ministers have to hand over to the new as the English bard wrote,
” And slowly answer’d Arthur from the barge:
“The old order changeth, yielding place to new,
And God fulfils himself in many ways,
Lest one good custom should corrupt the world.”
Two questions: Can you imagine what is must be like – feel like, to be the former president and vice-president of Sierra Leone? No more immunity, no more real POW-er.
As a PMDC faithful you must have read this:
http://www.peepsierraleone.com/news/templates/article.asp?articleid=63&zoneid=8
Did you also read this?
http://www.peepsierraleone.com/news/templates/article.asp?articleid=64&zoneid=8
The Foreign press has also been accused of having pro-SLPP sympathies and biases. We often get breaking news from the foreign media. We also get a lot of informed opinion from that source too – just as the foreign-based Sierra Leoneans who contribute to the on -line Sierra Leone papers are among the most fearless, knowing as they do that they are not likely to be easily arraigned before Judge Rashid for casting - as we say in Sierra Leone, for casting any “aspersions” on the tailless chimpanzee.
There is only a handful of Sierra Leone papers on line which keep us posted about what’s happening and they account for the occasional storm in a tea cup.
It’s normal for a political party to have a party paper just as it’s normal for some papers to have party leanings....I’d classify the Patriotic Vangaurd, Standard Times, Cocorioko, The New Citizen, and EXPO TIMES as pro-APC papers.
http://www.expotimes.net/
and for mostly independent critical opinion I’d award the medal to these guys:
http://www.christian-monitor.org/cms/
Cotton Tree news is a new starter.
The”NEW PEOPLE” loudly – vociferously, nastily and sometimes ignorantly too: very SLPP.
A cursory visit will not convince you that they otherwise , although they may be simmering down, getting less wild ( tamer) wagging their tails at a lower frequency than when the election results were pending and they were hoping to avert reality and truth – or at least a delay in facing truth , by seeking an “ injunction”. But that’s all cooled down now as they lick their wounds in defeat - and lets hope that those wounds don’t fester into some incurable sores – because there is the possibility that they could fester for at least another five years. At the moment if as much as an innocent pin drops, they jump up to criticize.
“The new people on line” is the worst newspaper I have ever read - It’s the worst Sierra Leone paper on the web today, libellous, misinformative and criminally so, carrying such stories such as,” Ernest Bai Koroma is going to destroy Kenema and Kailahun for not supporting him” and some other idiotic and hysterical pro-SLPP chatter – all understandable as symptoms and signs of a semi-literate society. But they have their stars, their shining lights and their dimwits, trying to illuminate the darkness that surrounds them., If during Ahmad Tejan Kabbah’s heyday, the APC had had that kind of obnoxious propaganda of the very worst type – making Philip Neville and Paul Kamara little innocent angels of angelic intent, then they would all be spending their last days languishing in solitary confinement as did Paul Kamara, in the late Foday Sankoh’s cell.
But the media is important, as you know it’s good for the APC – or any other government for that matter to have a good relationship with the press.
You claim that, “Apart from winning an election, Ernest Koroma is yet to show us the tact and political nerve setting him apart from the moribund system he replaced.”
Well it seems to me that he has not even yet REPLACED the SLPP ministers and I was shocked to read the following:
1. “According to National Secretary General of the ruling All People's Congress (APC) party, Victor Bockarie Foh, the decision was prompted by actions of outgoing government ministers, who keep travelling abroad "as and when they like without taking leave of the newly- elected government".
After his induction, President Koroma sacked no minister. "The President asked them to continue reporting for work in a bid to facilitate a smooth transition," Foh observed.
"It means that they are still serving. But, during this period, the ministers keep travelling out of the country without taking leave of the President or the Government. Is that right? Some of them are travelling every week: Why? For what? Foh retorted.
He said the police brought to government's attention information regarding frequent travels by ministers and heads of government institutions.
That is why the transitional committee decided to institute checks and balances on the travelling activities of government ministers and heads of government institutions, Foh explained to journalists here Sunday.”
I find it difficult to believe that those SLPP ministers are still running their ministries and haven’t handed over yet!!! And not only that, have been going back and forth to take care of business!!!!
No further comments.
Sierra Leone govt imposes travel check on ex-ministers
http://www.afriquenligne.fr/news/daily-news/sierra-leone-govt-imposes-travel-check-on-ex%11ministers-200709309679/
Sierra Leone requires special clearance for outgoing officials to leave country
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/09/30/africa/AF-POL-Sierra-Leone-Government.php
http://www.sierraherald.com/
A great man Thomas N. Hull check his speech on
“Building Issue-based Coalitions as an Effective Strategy for Protecting Freedom of Expression in Sierra Leone”
http://freetown.usembassy.gov/sp011706.html
Check his other speeches: Thomas N. Hull – they are all very helpful
http://freetown.usembassy.gov/hull_speeches.html
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Abass Bundu
To: All
Date Posted: 16:41:05 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: atejankabba@yaho.com
Entered From: pool-72-83-147-157.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.83.147.157
Message:
I totally agree with you. Cocorioko is to APC, what Awareness Times was to SLPP. Just as Awareness Times led to the downfall of SLPP, so will Cocorioko lead to the downfall of APC. Cocorioko is a sex slave of the APC and has lost all its journalistic credentials and integrity. You have a fickle APC trumpet-blowing editor masquerading as a journalist. What do you expect? If Cocorioko does not transform itself into an agent of objectivity, it runs the risk of making itself useless in the political discourse of our country. Cocorioko and its bandwagon ‘journalists’ need to realize that the elections are over. The people of Sierra Leone need meaningful changes on the ground now. We don’t need a mouthpiece for the government in the name of journalists.
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 23:31:25 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-mtc-ah10.proxy.aol.com at 64.12.117.202
Message:
PLEASE CLICK ON THE NAME ".ABASS BUNDU" AND SEE WHAT COMES UP
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Ernest Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 00:51:53 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-72-83-147-157.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 72.83.147.157
Message:
Political reverend, ow de go de go? You'll die in hell for playing rev. You are not mocking God. You are mocking yourself. May your soul burn in hell
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Observer of Revd Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 07:16:17 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 87-194-64-12.bethere.co.uk at 87.194.64.12
Message:
The Reverend has no conscience. Please let the poor Reverend live in peace. If he had a conscience, your attempt will be appreciated. For now, let the poor man continue his disgraceful actions in peace. He has long been exposed. No need to re-point that over and over again.
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Observer of Revd Kanu
To: All
Date Posted: 07:14:39 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 87-194-64-12.bethere.co.uk at 87.194.64.12
Message:
The Reverend has no conscience. Please let the poor Reverend live in peace. If he had a conscience, your attempt will be appreciated., For now, let the poor man continue his disgarceful; actions in peace. He has long been exposed. No need to re-point that over and over again.
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Ernest Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 14:28:34 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gw1.dc.gov at 164.82.146.3
Message:
The bible which the reverend uses to make a living says 'there is no peace for the wicked'. Knowing what this politically- tribalist-fundraising-blaphemous reverend has done, it would have been better if he had not been born. But again, judgment day is coming when the soul our dear Rev. will perish in hell. May God keep you safe until that day when you'll scourge in hell fire. Amen Amen Amen Amen..
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 00:26:16 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
I clicked and ex-president Kabba's email address came up. Could that really be Pa Kabba rascally trying to slime Cocorioko from seclusion? If so, then Cocorioko just received its biggest thumbs-up yet for a job well done. Let the success rev on. No tampering with the format please Kabs!
Subject: Re: IS COCORIOKO STILL ON A HONEYMOON WITH PRESIDENT KOROMA?
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 16:40:52 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-308472d5.01-32-73746f42.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se at 213.114.132.48
Message:
Bra Enviable,
Understand ably the old ministers have to hand over to the new as the English bard wrote,
And slowly answer’d Arthur from the barge:
“The old order changeth, yielding place to new,
And God fulfils himself in many ways,
Lest one good custom should corrupt the world.
Two questions: Can you imagine what is must be like – feel like, to be the former president and vice-president of Sierra Leone? No more immunity, no more real POW-er.
As a PMDC faithful you must have read this:
http://www.peepsierraleone.com/news/templates/article.asp?articleid=63&zoneid=8
Did you also read this?
http://www.peepsierraleone.com/news/templates/article.asp?articleid=64&zoneid=8
The Foreign press has also been accused of having pro-SLPP sympathies and biases. We often get breaking news from the foreign media. We also get a lot of informed opinion from that source too – just as the foreign-based Sierra Leoneans who contribute to the on -line Sierra Leone papers are among the most fearless, knowing as they do that they are not likely to be easily arraigned before Judge Rashid for casting - as we say in Sierra Leone, for casting any “aspersions” on the tailless chimpanzee.
There is only a handful of Sierra Leone papers on line which keep us posted about what’s happening and they account for the occasional storm in a tea cup.
It’s normal for a political party to have a party paper just as it’s normal for some papers to have party leanings....I’d classify the Patriotic Vangaurd, Standard Times, Cocorioko, The New Citizen, and EXPO TIMES as pro-APC papers.
http://www.expotimes.net/
and for mostly independent critical opinion I’d award the medal to these guys:
http://www.christian-monitor.org/cms/
Cotton Tree news is a new starter.
The”NEW PEOPLE” loudly – vociferously, nastily and sometimes ignorantly too: very SLPP.
A cursory visit will not convince you that they otherwise , although they may be simmering down, getting less wild ( tamer) wagging their tails at a lower frequency than when the election results were pending and they were hoping to avert reality and truth – or at least a delay in facing truth , by seeking an “ injunction”. But that’s all cooled down now as they lick their wounds in defeat - and lets hope that those wounds don’t fester into some incurable sores – because there is the possibility that they could fester for at least another five years. At the moment if as much as an innocent pin drops, they jump up to criticize.
“The new people on line” is the worst newspaper I have ever read - It’s the worst Sierra Leone paper on the web today, libellous, misinformative and criminally so, carrying such stories such as,” Ernest Bai Koroma is going to destroy Kenema and Kailahun for not supporting him” and some other idiotic and hysterical pro-SLPP chatter – all understandable as symptoms and signs of a semi-literate society. But they have their stars, their shining lights and their dimwits, trying to illuminate the darkness that surrounds them., If during Ahmad Tejan Kabbah’s heyday, the APC had had that kind of obnoxious propaganda of the very worst type – making Philip Neville and Paul Kamara little innocent angels of angelic intent, then they would all be spending their last days languishing in solitary confinement as did Paul Kamara, in the late Foday Sankoh’s cell.
But the media is important, as you know it’s good for the APC – or any other government for that matter to have a good relationship with the press.
You claim that, “Apart from winning an election, Ernest Koroma is yet to show us the tact and political nerve setting him apart from the moribund system he replaced.”
Well it seems to me that he has not even yet REPLACED the SLPP ministers and I was shocked to read the following:
1. “According to National Secretary General of the ruling All People's Congress (APC) party, Victor Bockarie Foh, the decision was prompted by actions of outgoing government ministers, who keep travelling abroad "as and when they like without taking leave of the newly- elected government".
After his induction, President Koroma sacked no minister. "The President asked them to continue reporting for work in a bid to facilitate a smooth transition," Foh observed.
"It means that they are still serving. But, during this period, the ministers keep travelling out of the country without taking leave of the President or the Government. Is that right? Some of them are travelling every week: Why? For what? Foh retorted.
He said the police brought to government's attention information regarding frequent travels by ministers and heads of government institutions.
That is why the transitional committee decided to institute checks and balances on the travelling activities of government ministers and heads of government institutions, Foh explained to journalists here Sunday.”
I find it difficult to believe that those SLPP ministers are still running their ministries and haven’t handed over yet!!! And not only that, have been going back and forth to take care of business!!!!
No further comments.
Sierra Leone govt imposes travel check on ex-ministers
http://www.afriquenligne.fr/news/daily-news/sierra-leone-govt-imposes-travel-check-on-ex%11ministers-200709309679/
Sierra Leone requires special clearance for outgoing officials to leave country
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/09/30/africa/AF-POL-Sierra-Leone-Government.php
http://www.sierraherald.com/
A great man Thomas N. Hull check his speech on
“Building Issue-based Coalitions as an Effective Strategy for Protecting Freedom of Expression in Sierra Leone”
http://freetown.usembassy.gov/sp011706.html
Check his other speeches: Thomas N. Hull – they are all very helpful
http://freetown.usembassy.gov/hull_speeches.html
Subject: 10000000000000000% impressed.
From: Bamaby Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 14:43:25 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-71-197-104-25.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.104.25
Message:
FREETOWN, Sierra Leone: Two weeks after taking office with a pledge to fight corruption, Sierra Leone's president banned all outgoing government officials from leaving the country without special clearance from police.
President Ernest Bai Koroma's government issued a statement late Saturday requiring outgoing ministers and other senior officials who have access to public funds to get permission from the inspector general of police to leave the West African country.
Though the statement did not give a reason for the edict, it follows on promises by Koroma when he was sworn in Sept. 17 that he would adopt "zero tolerance on corruption and the mismanagement of state resources" in the country, which is still recovering from years of bloodshed.
Tens of thousands died in Sierra Leone's decade-long civil war, while countless others had their limbs hacked off by rebels or were brutalized in rape campaigns. U.N. forces helped re-establish peace in 2002, but Sierra Leone has been struggling to recover from the scars and the economic devastation of the war.
Koroma, previously the country's major opposition leader, was elected in the first presidential ballot since U.N. peacekeepers withdrew two years ago — a vote in which the ruling party candidate had been considered the front-runner. He won with 55 percent of votes cast in a run-off election with the then-vice president. Koroma, 54, has yet to appoint a Cabinet.
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Subject: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 14:04:26 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253
Message:
Because some people are using this forum for the wrong reasons--To blackmail those they feel have standing with the APC government in the usual Sierra Leonean Piull-Him - down ( PH.D ) syndrome, thinking they will mar the relations between the government and the targeted people-we will soon introduce a system where you may have to register with a username and password to participate on this forum.
This forum was set up to discuss Sierra Leone's burning problems not for people to use it to perpetuate the dirty politics in Sierra Leone or to try to put words in people's mouths or motives in their hearts . We live in a very fragile and gullible society and we don't think others should play recklessly with the character and future of those they hate.
We will bring you further details .
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Town Crier
To: All
Date Posted: 08:24:58 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-71-227-75-238.hsd1.mi.comcast.net at 71.227.75.238
Message:
Rev Kanu is just putting the finishing touches on converting his publication from a once "free" and "objective" publication to the new APC supporting news site.
His reasons clearly states that his main reason for the conversion is because of the inappropriate name calling of potential APC government officials etc etc, so one should take note.
I respect the fact that at least he is not hiding the real reason for wanting people to register.
Bravo, and welcome to the new APC forum. Please make sure the headline of the new Forum reflects the real name.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Hypocrite Pastor
To: All
Date Posted: 03:52:41 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gov198.ucc.ie at 143.239.91.198
Message:
Be wary of hypocrites like Kabs-Kanu. You gloated when your APC goons were maligning people on your forum. Kack fine you feel say dar post wae den promise you you go get am? Na lie den lie pan you even Foday Mansaray will get dondo and the illiterate Musa Kallya will get dondo. Oona jus begin
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 21:49:41 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
Message:
Kabs, Thank you very much for accepting the advise I gave you a long time ago. Since, some people want to damage the character of good people on this forum by hiding their identities, you should tolerate them.
Only a few of us post on this forum with are correct names. I will always post with my correct names ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA, because what ever comes from me will be correct. By my nature I don't tell people what they want to hear, I tell them what they need to know and I take full responsibility for my actions. If anybody takes me to court, I will adduce sufficient evidence to prove my case beyond all doubts.
Once again, Kabs, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for planning to introduce a system by which people will register their proper identities before they can post anything on this forum.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Majay Tong
To: All
Date Posted: 12:10:22 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: eduproxy2.k12.de.us at 167.21.254.12
Message:
Alpha,
Who knows what your real name really is? No body. You claim to be what you claim to be but only you really know who you really are.
Even with registration, c'mon are you a dummy. You can always use assumed names. Some of us don't know you and don't want to know a blind SLPP supporter and nonentity like you anyway. So who cares if you name is Bangura or Nays Bangu.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Sabanoh
To: All
Date Posted: 19:24:42 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: Sabanoh007@yahoo.com
Entered From: cache-dtc-ag14.proxy.aol.com at 205.188.117.142
Message:
Wilfrd Kanu, I respect you, but your move now to censor us in this forum has made me think you are becoming more of a politician than a journalist. When APC was in opposition you allowed everything but now that APC is in power all of a sudden you have a problem with people critizing APC. Do you want the truth or you want to be a propaganda machine for APC?
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Jackal
To: All
Date Posted: 17:16:32 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: dollarbill@gmail.com
Entered From: c-24-13-121-79.hsd1.il.comcast.net at 24.13.121.79
Message:
Kabs,
Your move has its good, bad and ugly. In business we refer to it as your opportunity, threats, weakness and strength. There is a strong cross relationship between them.
Try this, monitor the volume of readership traffic after your prescribed excercise and see if that affects readership traffic. If it does, I pray lift the so called ban. Politics is ephemeral, freedom is forever.
If a competitior finds out that the traffic is driven by anonymity, you will traffic. Compare traffic on your forum to Awareness times. People are going to say @%$%^&&%$ about others.
I am a fan and admirer, but an advocate of freedom of information.
Be a champion of freedom.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: MUSA KAMARA
To: All
Date Posted: 16:55:21 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: luna.hypair.net at 194.50.180.4
Message:
Brother Kabs,you are too lenient and tolerant even to the unruly folks on this forum with multiple identities.You have to be tough this time around and I support your notion.There should be no space for notoriety here.Deepest regards.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Jay
To: All
Date Posted: 16:06:55 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-140-34-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.34.194
Message:
Kabs:
Registration would be seen as censorship and that would not augur well for the success of this forum.This forum is thriving because of the anonymity of its members.
I see your point that people are been maligned on this forum by a handful of individuals.My advice to you is to take drastic action against these individuals-ban them from participation.We cannot all pay for the sins of these misfits.In this light I would advice you to please reconsider instituting registration.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: LIQCO
To: All
Date Posted: 16:04:37 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: liqo@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-163-112-24.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.163.112.24
Message:
Mr. Kabs Kanu, I must say that I agree with you completely. With all honesty and sincerity, it seems like the only only way we could get rid of the nonsense of decimating politicians with good character in this forum is to implements your suggestion of providing a username and a password. you have my vote sir. Let's do it!
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Med
To: All
Date Posted: 15:57:37 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.114.66.82
Message:
The forum has been unique so far, I am however reluctant to accept your reason for imposing restriction/registration. The decision is largely clouded by an undue favoritism, taking into account previous postings during the SLPP regime. I am convince that, the people in question are only those that have aspired or express interest to hold public offices, those that would have access to public funds and subsequently wield authority. I also believe that you share the same view, that a public servant should stand the test of time, these are people that are expected to behave honestly and work efficiently.
Sierra Leoneans are tired of inappropriate, corrupt and unqualified public servants earning responsible positions of trust, if these people in question are clean, no amount of character assignation would obstruct their ambition, it is however said that there is no smoke without a fire, its either most of these guys are corrupt or not just competent.
I would therefore urge the management of this forum to restrain from imposing an action that might be generally seen as influenced by specific political interest, you have started a job, please continue to create an uncomplicated avenue to fight corrupt practices, Sierra Leone needs you.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Tejan
To: All
Date Posted: 15:31:33 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253
Message:
We have advised you long ago to impose these restrictions.You can't trust Sierra Leoneans with any good thing.Leaving this forum without regulating it is harmful to the reputation of the paper and to us all.There are all kinds of cranks hanging out here and they are spreading allkinds of crazy stories about people that are not true.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 18:03:49 09/30/07 ()
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Tejan, there is a distinction between the Cocorioko paper and the forum.
Just like the editorial page of a newspaper and the general reporting.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Candy
To: All
Date Posted: 15:09:41 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: Cano@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-65-70-31.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.65.70.31
Message:
This is the most bizzare excuse that could ever be given to censor a forum......'Because some people are using this forum for the wrong reasons -To blackmail those they feel have standing with the APC government ...' Are you trying to register people in order to track them down later?
Cocorioko has been under fire lately for putting late or stale news and people have been bold enough to let you know of your shortcomings. to introduce registration is good, but the reasons you have given have just found you out. I am sure President Koroma will not make decisons on the back of what he reads in an internet forum. Aren't you confident that your (sorry OUR) president can make informed and proper decisions? Mr Man of God, I wonder what you will do to sinners......burn them, or turn them away from the gates of heaven.
If you want to introduce censorship on your forum, find a plausible reason. You only want sychophants in your forum........birds of the same feather.....BAN people for using obscenities, but not because they don't pander to your twisted political leanings.
Dont think that forumites can' disseminate between fact of fiction or that they have a one tracked mind like you are perpetrating.
Ever heard of keeping your friends close but your enemies closer?
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: M. Alieu iscandari Esq
To: All
Date Posted: 17:41:21 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
but not because they don't pander to your twisted political leanings.
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candy with all due respect, yours is a misrepresentation of the purpose of Kabs Kanu seeking to have people identify themselves prior to posting. It is my understanding that Mr. kanu wants to weed out those amongst us, not necessarily serious posters like you, who thrive on defaming others while under the cloak of annonimity. I do believe that it is a legitimate reason which may have some legal underpinings. Think about it even you could benefit from such stringent measures. Cocorioko is here to stay and even when the CHAFF is weeded out, the serious people will be here to discuss issues with some degree of civility. I think you will agree with me on that.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Candy
To: All
Date Posted: 03:13:32 10/01/07 ()
Email Address: Cano@yahoo.com
Entered From: 79-66-67-56.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com at 79.66.67.56
Message:
'To blackmail those they feel have standing with the APC government in the usual Sierra Leonean..... '.
Alieu, whilst I respect your opinion, I have to disagree with your reasons why Kabs wants to 'impose' registration.
Why use the word impose in the first place. Kabs and his team are supposed to be journalists who should have more control of the English language than I do. My understanding of the proposed imposition is to protect people in or with connections with the APC and not for obscenities or any other bad behaviour. Why IMPOSE? He could have 'introduced'. Or am I being too soft.
That is the argument he put up and I am disgusted and disappointed with him. Before making public statements, do you mind giving him a hand? He might convey his messages better.
I am not a lawyer, but I am sure no legal redress could be got from something written in a forum. Don't forget that Cocorioko cannot be responsible for what people write or for peoples' opinions. Once again, read his reasons for his proposed 'IMPOSITION'. Not for good journalistic value, but to protect APC and its cronies.
Please don't take this as an attack on you (Iscandri) but we must agree to disagree.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: jakie
To: All
Date Posted: 23:46:56 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Saidu are you the chaff that alieu is talking about? Think about it did you need to personally attack him. get out man you are tooo tooo stupid.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 22:13:11 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
Message:
Ladies and Gentlemen, look who is talking.
Alieu, how many times have you used fake names to insult the parents of good people on this forum only because you do not have respect for your parents?
I will always firstly examine personalities before, I talk about issues, because personalities affect issues.
It will be meaningless to discuss the issues affecting our country and its people, if we have the wrong people to handle these issues.
I 100% support the proposed registration, I only wish the moderator will give the true identity of the bad people on this forum as and when needed. So that I will be able to deal with them properly.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 18:51:03 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Alieu, freedom of speech trumps civility at anytime. You cannot even imagine how many times we wonder why
you continue to participate in this forum despite all the unfounded barrage of attacks on your person. You
exercised maturity and left it with the readers to make their judgments and in some situations a non-response
from you said a lot. The forumites are not stupid.
Jackal learnt a lot from you despite the thorny beginning, he accepted some of his mistakes and tries to make
amends.
This forum flourishes because of the freedom given to participants. Are we expecting a perfect situation?
Absolutely not.
"…there ought to exist the fullest liberty of professing and discussing, as a matter of ethical conviction, any
doctrine, however immoral it might be considered." (Mill, 1910).
Kabs, as a man of God and a champion of free speech, may disagree/disapprove of some forumites, but he
must be willing to die to protect their rights to express their thoughts. Let any freedom reign…………
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 14:59:53 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
Why ONLY NOW? Others like Alieu Iscandri, Sengbe, maada mustapha, and more have being attacked and maligned on this forum with your CONSENT and you did nothing.. WHY NOW?
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: A Candid thought - Was it good for the Goose?
To: All
Date Posted: 14:58:27 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
When it comes to the goose..
The gander said.. i did not call you such names..
If it was so said that John benjamin is a prolific treasury rapper.. and Berewa is a chain smoking just a curve away from the grave leader.. and Nyuma is jack the ripper incanate. And Kabbah is a good for nothing madingo man waiting to escape one more time to La Guinea. And berewa has an 'estate' in the doms.. and the curtians are blue and the paint is brown..
All said HERE...Not a pinch of recant from the good cocorioko mods..
Why not Eanest or Gbessay Kanu..?
Reverend.. dont let your emotions restrict the free flow of ideas and speech that made this fora a force to recon with just because we are calling you out and pointing judiscious fingers at your man/men or people you might have a liking for..
They deserve to be scrutinized to the enf degree if they so much as dream about holding public positions in our country. If they have the time, please tell them to come here and defend themselves or not take offence or better yet you not take offence for them.
For it is they that seek employment from US THE PEOPLE.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 14:55:02 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
This format is a roaring success, Kabs. The free flow of honest, candid (mostly under pseudos) discourse is one of the reasons why this newspaper is the largest and most successful Salone online. Please don't mess with this success. It is true that the capricious and wicked minority among us will always try to take advantage and smear their enemies, like the so-called spiritual monk Alpha Saidu Bangura, in his obsession with the Iscandri family. All you have to do is watch the overwhelmingly negative response by forumites to Bangura's calumnies to appreciate the beauty of the free flow of ideas in the forum. The good in this forum far outweighs the bad.
As a last resort, in order to protect the reputation of this forum from the character assassins and political ninjas, the moderator can always use the guillotine at his fungertips: the power to ban and delete nuisance posters.
For now, let this unique Sierra Leonean success story, Cocorioko, continue unburdened with new impositions. The forum will eventually self-regulate. This is how powerful this baby of yours has become. It's a big boy now, Rev.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: bkabisco
To: All
Date Posted: 19:44:40 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: bkabisco@hotmail.com
Entered From: c-71-193-52-177.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.193.52.177
Message:
As usual I agreed with everthing you said until I read this, "as a last resort.......the moderator can always use the guillotine at his fingertips: the power to ban and delete nuisance posters," It makes me shudder to think that some one who has always advocated tolerance on this forum would now tacitly subscribe to the cacophonous drumbeat of censorship by others on this forum. I applaud the efforts of the editor and proprietor of this forum, but the above suggestion "is a contradiction of the conclusion that "the forum will eventually self regulate."
The latter is absolutely correct, but the former seems to absolve the editor if he engages in censorship by eliminating whomever he deems to be a nuisance. It would be no different from GWB classifying anybody as an enemy combatant, because good people in the congress of the United States abdicated their responsibilities to serve as a check to his unbridled power.
Those who are considered a nuisance are given a loud voice by those who even bother to respond to them. If however, they are ignored and not responded to, the self-regulatiion process that you speak of would have done its job.
Lets not let the editor off the hook if he bans or censors someone on this forum because he finds their postings to be disagreable. It would tarnish the image of the forum as an intolerant entity that demands conformity.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 15:06:30 09/30/07 ()
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Message:
Well said..
Just as the human body.. a design as ingenious and self regulatory as this should not be sent under the operating knife for unneccessary surgery.
Especially one cosmetic.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 14:50:54 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
Look who is writing about people been reckless with their postings. We are been spun by the editor of spin. By the way where is the cabinet you promised was going to be announced? When you answer this simple question then you can start advising on other things. As someone who does not belong to a political party, I am disapointed in cocorioko to say the least.Besides, cocorioko is your property so do whatever you want to do with it.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Kack Chest Lek Bombali Granat Pikin
To: All
Date Posted: 14:59:59 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Manga, you don't belong to a political party? Hahahaha! Your hostility to the APC belies your sanctimony. You are SLPP to the core. Be proud of your political affiliation and stop going dizzy with your self-spinning!
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 14:30:32 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
Good idea, Kabs. But can you confirm this rumor that Foday mansaray gave the APC $100,000 and now he want to become the bank governor of Sierra Leone and that Alex Mansaray is lobbying to become the permanent rep. to the U.N.? I want to tell the rumor mongers that it is not nice to spread such rumors. Thanks.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: Bambay Lans Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:02 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-71-197-104-25.hsd1.ca.comcast.net at 71.197.104.25
Message:
Rev. KABS-KANU, what a briliant idea and a progress oriented observation. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Subject: Re: WE WILL HAVE TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:02 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip70-162-167-106.ph.ph.cox.net at 70.162.167.106
Message:
What is Alex Mansary and Foday Mansary qualifications
Subject: For Herr Toegondoe Sagbah
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 13:10:24 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Dear Toegondoe Sagbah,
More grist to the mill. (Your Mill…. I cannot think of you without thinking of your descr1ption of Solomon Berewa using the national treasury as his CAMPAIGN BANK!)
This article entitled ”Fackligt parti utmanar i Sierra Leone” (Trade Union party challenges in Sierra Leone) appeared in “Stad & Län, STOCKHOLMS Tidningen, (the Social Democrat Party newspaper) Stad & Län, Nr.32. of August 20th, 2007.
www.aip.nu
Here’s my quick but accurate translation of the article by Eric Sundström:
The Civil War in Sierra Leone is usually referred to as one of the most brutal in modern times.
After the first elections of 2002 which was wholly organised by the United Nations, Sierra Leone has just now carried out presidential and parliamentary elections on her own. The European Union observers have declared that on the whole they are satisfied with the elections even though suspicions of vote buying have been circulating.
Sierra Leone’s incumbent president Ahmad Tejan Kabbah has served his two five-year periods and is not eligible for re-election. There are seven candidates who are contesting the presidential elections, but the real contest is really considered to be between Solomon Berewa from the governing party, the SLPP and Ernest Bai Koroma of the APC.
“The APC is the nearest that you can get to a Social Democratic party in Sierra Leone. It was started by a Trade Union man, Siaka Stevens and after a number of problems and legal processes and lawsuits, we now have the “New APC” which has finally united/ unified around Koroma”, says Rodney Lowe, who has been working in Sierra Leone since 2003, with rehabilitating ex-soldiers who fought in the civil war.
This work is being carried out by collaboration between Forum Syd, the University of Gothenburg and a local organisation (called) ORIENT.
Rodney Lowe is British but has lived for quite sometime in Sweden. He has worked with NCC for 20 years during which time he was active in both Metall (Industrial Workers Trade Union) and Amnesty International.
The counting of votes is not yet concluded. If none of the candidates gets 55 percent of the votes then the elections will go to a second round /runoff. Ernest Bai Koroma will be one of the two candidates in the final round.
“I believe that Koroma will be a good president, He has his roots in the APC, he has what you can call social pathos and he has done well in local politics in Freetown.”
On the other hand, Rodney Lowe is very doubtful about the ruling party, the SLPP.
“The SLPP got power from the old junta and have been ruling since then. The incumbent president Kabbah and vice-president Berewa who is now the SLPP’s presidential candidate were earlier on advisers to the junta for four years.”
“If the SLPP loses the elections, president Kabbah can be indicted by the United Nations Court for his role in the Civil war”, opines Rodney Lowe.
Rodney Lowe
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Rodney+Lowe+%28+Sierra+Leone
Forum Syd (Southern Forum)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Forum+Syd
University of Gothenburg
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=University+of+Gothenburg
Address by Gunilla Carlsson at the Stockholm Pledging Conference for the Enhanced Integrated Framework
http://www.sweden.gov.se:80/sb/d/8812/a/88971
Subject: Financing Political Campaigns
From: Quest
To: All
Date Posted: 12:49:42 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h175.79.89.75.ip.alltel.net at 75.89.79.175
Message:
Finging a way to finance political campaigns without encouraging the sale of politicians to contributors has always been a challange for politicians.Even legal contributions from wealthy interest are a source of concern.Groups and individuals that give funds will expect some form of help, in terms of special treatment on individual problems or in seeking contracts or concessions, to name a few.So let us say Our New PREZ is caught in some quid pro quo deal thus the delay in naming the new Cabinet, should this be a source of concern going forward?
Subject: Re: Financing Political Campaigns
From: MUSA
To: All
Date Posted: 14:59:49 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h175.79.89.75.ip.alltel.net at 75.89.79.175
Message:
You might be on to something here my friend, sometimes the expectations of some quid pro quo have been striaghtforward. In North Carolina in 1997, a construction firm that did not receive the favor it expected in return for a contribution to the incumbent governor's campaign asked for its money back. The resulting scandal led to a law banning such arrangements.
Subject: Re: Financing Political Campaigns
From: POLITICAL
To: All
Date Posted: 14:35:26 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
It's a possibility. I will not be suprised if that is the case here. I hope the president will stand above corruption, but certainly he will not stand above these type of issues.
Subject: Test
From: Tester
To: All
Date Posted: 11:44:35 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h175.79.89.75.ip.alltel.net at 75.89.79.175
Message:
Testing
Subject: COMBATING CORRUPTION STAGE ONE
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 14:37:55 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Sierra Leone requires special clearance for outgoing officials to leave country
The Associated Press
Published: September 30, 2007
FREETOWN, Sierra Leone: Two weeks after taking office with a pledge to fight corruption, Sierra Leone's president banned all outgoing government officials from leaving the country without special clearance from police.
President Ernest Bai Koroma's government issued a statement late Saturday requiring outgoing ministers and other senior officials who have access to public funds to get permission from the inspector general of police to leave the West African country.
Though the statement did not give a reason for the edict, it follows on promises by Koroma when he was sworn in Sept. 17 that he would adopt "zero tolerance on corruption and the mismanagement of state resources" in the country, which is still recovering from years of bloodshed.
Tens of thousands died in Sierra Leone's decade-long civil war, while countless others had their limbs hacked off by rebels or were brutalized in rape campaigns. U.N. forces helped re-establish peace in 2002, but Sierra Leone has been struggling to recover from the scars and the economic devastation of the war.
Koroma, previously the country's major opposition leader, was elected in the first presidential ballot since U.N. peacekeepers withdrew two years ago — a vote in which the ruling party candidate had been considered the front-runner. He won with 55 percent of votes cast in a run-off election with the then-vice president. Koroma, 54, has yet to appoint a Cabinet.
Sierra Leone govt imposes travel check on ex-ministers
Freetown, Sierra Leone - The yet to be inaugurated government of President Earnest Bai Koroma of Sierra Leone has imposed travel restrictions on all former cabinet ministers, saying "it is imperative that they seek police clearance before departure" from the country.
According to National Secretary General of the ruling All People's Congress (APC) party, Victor Bockarie Foh, the decision was prompted by actions of outgoing government ministers, who keep travelling abroad "as and when they like without taking leave of the newly- elected government".
After his induction, President Koroma sacked no minister. "The President asked them to continue reporting for work in a bid to facilitate a smooth transition," Foh observed.
"It means that they are still serving. But, during this period, the ministers keep travelling out of the country without taking leave of the President or the Government. Is that right? Some of them are travelling every week: Why? For what? Foh retorted.
He said the police brought to government's attention information regarding frequent travels by ministers and heads of government institutions.
That is why the transitional committee decided to institute checks and balances on the travelling activities of government ministers and heads of government institutions, Foh explained to journalists here Sunday.
The Office of President Earnest Bai Koroma last Monday published names of a Presidential Transitional Team to speedily assess the current state of all government ministries, departments, agencies and institutions run with public funds.
The idea is to compile a clear stewardship picture and report that will also serve as a guide to assess past officials if they diligently carried out their duties according to their terms of reference.
Freetown - 30/09/2007
Panapress
Subject: COCORIOKO is still objective, but............
From: KALOS
To: All
Date Posted: 11:34:03 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-98-204-44-243.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 98.204.44.243
Message:
Below is how my revered news outlet, COCORIOKO, reported the failure
of EBK to name his cabinet within a reasonable time:
“They said he has no reason to rush when he has already mandated
SLPP ministers to keep holding the fort while a transition team worked
to ensure a peaceful and orderly transfer of power to incoming APC
ministers in the spirit of accountability and transparency , two
centerpieces of Mr. Koroma's governance.”
I will always come to the defense of COCORIOKO in my little way when
attacked because of its alleged political propensity. ALL news outlets
tilt one way or the other, but can they be objective most of the time?
Yes and Cocorioko is one of them. However, to arbitrarily just report
what “they said” without any further probing or introspection is not
helping EBK to further his goals. EBK has a thick skin; the guy can
absorb constructive criticism, especially coming from the Cocorioko
group. Let us delve in to the “running the country like a business”
phenomenon-like. Can you imagine a hostile take-over of CHRYSLER
corporation by Warren Buffet and the CEO mandates the former high-
level managers to hold the fort while a transition team is pondering
what to do? All their laptops, desktops…will be locked and their offices
secured within hours of the takeover. I hope Monday will be a good
day as we continue to pray for our country.
Subject: Re: COCORIOKO is still objective, but............
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:17:49 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: ip68-100-48-137.dc.dc.cox.net at 68.100.48.137
Message:
Indeed...
It is coming across as Coco rioko is now officially the spokesman (well alpha "hajj money" khan is busy securing his fortunes) for the APC...
That almost sounds like a press release from APC HQ than it is of news reporting.
A news paper making excuses for the rulling party..
What do expect, from the war room at somerset?
On another note..I hear Phillip "laybelleh en nabel" Neville is/was promised (ghadaffi res story) a job as information or sports minister..?
I thought we are heralding a new dawn. not pull 2 foot arata for put 2 foot leppet. Lajilaaaaaaa....
Subject: What does Bobson Sesay, Ernest Koroma, John Karimu,
From: Ronaldino
To: All
Date Posted: 08:37:56 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-17-83.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.17.83
Message:
and a couple of Roads Authority Directors have in common? They all live in or about Goderich which has the worst road in West Africa.
It amazes me that no one has seen it fit for the road construction to start at Juba which has traffic problems and is heavily populated than No.2 River.
I implore the Head of the Road Authority be dismissed and investigated. And his replacement be given the task to build 5 kilometres of town roads a year be it in Freetown,Bo or Makeni.
This can be done with the monies collected from the fuel road fund.
If the new head of RA is not up to it(after 18 months) he should be replaced ASAP.
Subject: Re: What does Bobson Sesay, Ernest Koroma, John Karimu,
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 10:07:56 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator6071.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.181.216
Message:
ROTFLMAO! Man stop exaggerating here! Have you been to other west african countries and see their roads? Have you been to specifically Mali or Nigeria?
Subject: Re: What does Bobson Sesay, Ernest Koroma, John Karimu,
From: Basco
To: All
Date Posted: 15:19:53 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-17-83.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.17.83
Message:
Google that strech of road and compare it with any other in West Africa!
Subject: Re: What does Bobson Sesay, Ernest Koroma, John Karimu,
From: M. Alieu Iscandari Esq.
To: All
Date Posted: 11:55:45 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Or Bai, I have beeen to those countries and believe me when I say that the road to Tokeh from Lumley is wonderfully bad.
Subject: Re: What does Bobson Sesay, Ernest Koroma, John Karimu,
From: Med
To: All
Date Posted: 10:11:30 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 82.114.66.82
Message:
What about the roads of Mali and Nigeria?
Subject: Re: What does Bobson Sesay, Ernest Koroma, John Karimu,
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 12:47:57 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: mfofana2004@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
Message:
Brothers and sisters,
Let us aim high. When we compare country with other countries, let us compare it with those countries more advanced than ours. That will give us the motivation to try to attain their level or come closer to them. The question, "You are talking about poor conditions what about others poor countries," is not a positive comparison. This reminds me of kids in classroom or in school. When they get a "D grade", the excuse is that "I am not they only one that got a "D grade", in fact other student got "F", which is worse than a D grade. Let us always discuss good examples of advanced countries and use them as a model to develop Sierra Leone. It can be done. Nothing tried, nothing succeeded. The problem is that we are not emulating or using advanced countries model. Corruption and unpatriotism!!!!
Subject: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 08:31:32 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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It is over two weeks since he was declared winner and sworn in as President of Sierra Leone, yet we have not seen his TEAM.
Are we in for another treat? Another KABBA or Joseph Momoh ?..
The honey-moon is over Mr President.. stop the appeasement, get to work. You were elected to serve the people and not TAXI DRIVERS...
Cronyism is one of the reasons SLPP lost the elections. If they are not qualified don't HIRE them. Our patience is running thin...
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: Pa Javombo
To: All
Date Posted: 14:50:42 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 209.214.214.3
Message:
The delay in naming the new president's cabinet is niether a sign of weakness nor an indicission.
It is a sign of good management. If you listened to the president when he addressed the SLPP ministers he told them to go back to their posts to ensure a proper handover of power. In the olden days permanent secretaries who are not the CEO's of the ministries did the handing over. This time it is the CEOs that are handing over to their successors.
This means there has to be an audit and I am sure the president wants to report to us the state of the nation. He wants us to know where he is taken from. How can we measure his success when we don't know what he had to start with?
This guy's swearing in was hush -hush after his election victory through no fault of his. What ever happened to the term presiden-elect. The framers of our constitution should be blamed for the pridicament Koroma finds himself in today.
First of all our constitution leaves the setting of election date in the hands of the president and where an incumbent party is contesting and hoping to win and in most cases at all cost like it was shown in the last elections, the party will have no plans for handover not to mention of thoughts of been audited.
We saw how the power to set the date for elections in one man's hand was abused. When Kabbah's date of July 28th was not seen by some SLPPers as been adequately prepared for them, it was moved to August and but for the will of the Sierra Leonean people and the international community that date was about to be changed again.
Sierra Leoneans cannot be placed in a position of palying a guessing game when it comes to election dates and the govt take over. It should not be an executive but legislative matter. The new parliamnet should move ahead and quickly fix this problem so that we all will know when elections are due.
Sierra Leone been a very religious tolerant nation Some suppose parliament chooses a date that falls within the month of Ramadan, a moveable period within the Islamic Calendar. In that case we can have elections on the first weekend following the the end of the month of Ramadan.
I belive the constituion should give a thirty day period from the day the winner is delclared for the new president to be sworn in. By then the new govt must be able to put in place a transition team to be able to take over the reins of power at the end of the 30 days.
Don't tell me we are not ripe for this kind of arrangements. We will never be if we don't try it first.
If Kabbah ever handed over to Koroma, It was not done in an orderly fashion.Did you see a sache around Koroma's neck during his swearing in ceremony? That may be because Kabbah may not even have known where he placed it. Koroma now has to go out and put the pieces together.
This guy should be given a pat on the back for what he has done so far to heal the nation.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 14:56:35 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Boss! Nice post... but the fact remains we will have to wait for another-----month or so for a new cabinet since tey have to go through a confirmation hearing... Do you see why people thuink he should name them now so as to start the hearings?
They are not going to BREEZE through conference and the floor.. that i can assure you.
They will be investigated, and drilled so as to get the right people...
so for him to waste so much time, for me is a SAD event.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: Mammy Blessing
To: All
Date Posted: 10:20:07 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: pool-151-202-41-6.ny325.east.verizon.net at 151.202.41.6
Message:
This delay has already cost the Prez a lot of goodwill, Alieu.
I know some people are trying to spin this delay as a positive sign of a man who is deliberative and serious. Methinks not. I think it is a case of hyenas fighting over the spoils. No matter what cabinet goulash the president finally serves, he will be viewed, fairly or unfairly, as an indecisive man, buffetted by powerful special interests.
He just made his job a lot harder. Unless he produces tangible results fast, the goodwill he now unjoys will disappear fast.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 10:42:59 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
"I think it is a case of hyenas fighting over the spoils"
They still have to make GOOD on their promise to the PMDC.. which according to sources, has not gone down well with APC-JCs.
Mr President we want the CABINET NOW..
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: FYI
To: All
Date Posted: 09:00:08 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-140-34-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.34.194
Message:
Allieu:
How long did it take the new Nigerian President to announce his cabinet?
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 09:05:51 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
No disrespect BRA but how long do we(sierra leoneans) have to follow? Why do we have to think because Nigeria did theirs in five weeks, it is Ok for us to wait longer...
The people expected the Preseident to be decisive and hit the Presidency RUNNING..
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: Kalos
To: All
Date Posted: 12:07:55 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-98-204-44-243.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 98.204.44.243
Message:
There was no change of party in Nigeria. Thanks Alieu for bringing it to
our attention; for a change let us be the leaders instead of followers.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: FYI
To: All
Date Posted: 09:53:30 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bra:
I am just trying to put things in perspective,I agree with you that we don't have to be followers.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: Mohamed Fofana
To: All
Date Posted: 13:01:35 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: mfofana2004@sbcglobal.net
Entered From: adsl-69-108-68-64.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net at 69.108.68.64
Message:
Sometimes, there is nothing wrong with following "A good or Excellent" examples. The trouble ariaes when you follow bad or poor examples.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: LIQCO
To: All
Date Posted: 08:50:28 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: liqco@yahoo.com
Entered From: pool-71-163-112-24.washdc.fios.verizon.net at 71.163.112.24
Message:
I agree with you MR. Alieu Sesay. I think H.E. needs to be reminded that he is a public employee and not the CEO of ENRON.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: alieu sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 10:46:14 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
He is a Business Man...and should know that TIME IS MONEY...The more time wasted, the less favorable we think of him as a swift ruler/leader.
Subject: Re: IS THIS A SIGN OF WEAKNESS AND INDECISION?
From: Candid Opinion
To: All
Date Posted: 12:06:55 09/30/07 ()
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Entered From: ip68-100-48-137.dc.dc.cox.net at 68.100.48.137
Message:
I have come across this business man label a trillion times attached to HE Mr KOROMA..
A candid question..
What did Mr Koroma do as a business man?
Did he own the insurance company?
What was the standing of that company in the industry under his helm?
What was the standing of that company when he got OUT?
Where does the company stand on the west african stage?
I want to see if Mr Koroma's stewardship was anything to write home about, if it was marginal of if it was just as everything else, lackluster.
For the amount of time i have heard him mentioned as a business man, i would expect a maverick who took a dying company to dissying heights. Of expanded to the gambia and ghana or guinea as south african and nigerian companies have been doing the past 10-15 years.
The best insurance brokerage south of the sahara or west of the niger should be a fitting tribute to his leadership skills and business prowess..
Anything else.. and he was just a day to day manager like almost all the other managers in salone.. and people should stop slapping me at every turn with HE is a businessman.
Subject: APC Government Imposes Traveling Check on Ex-Minister
From: What Do You Know?
To: All
Date Posted: 07:36:42 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 204.84.81.88
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Sierra Leone govt imposes travel check on ex-ministers
Freetown, Sierra Leone - The yet to be inaugurated government of President Earnest Bai Koroma of Sierra Leone has imposed travel restrictions on all former cabinet ministers, saying "it is imperative that they seek police clearance before departure" from the country.
According to National Secretary General of the ruling All People's Congress (APC) party, Victor Bockarie Foh, the decision was prompted by actions of outgoing government ministers, who keep travelling abroad "as and when they like without taking leave of the newly- elected government".
After his induction, President Koroma sacked no minister. "The President asked them to continue reporting for work in a bid to facilitate a smooth transition," Foh observed.
"It means that they are still serving. But, during this period, the ministers keep travelling out of the country without taking leave of the President or the Government. Is that right? Some of them are travelling every week: Why? For what? Foh retorted.
He said the police brought to government's attention information regarding frequent travels by ministers and heads of government institutions.
That is why the transitional committee decided to institute checks and balances on the travelling activities of government ministers and heads of government institutions, Foh explained to journalists here Sunday.
The Office of President Earnest Bai Koroma last Monday published names of a Presidential Transitional Team to speedily assess the current state of all government ministries, departments, agencies and institutions run with public funds.
The idea is to compile a clear stewardship picture and report that will also serve as a guide to assess past officials if they diligently carried out their duties according to their terms of reference.
Freetown - 30/09/2007
Subject: Re: APC Government Imposes Traveling Check on Ex-Minister
From: Bock Jah
To: All
Date Posted: 12:19:29 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-los-ae04.proxy.aol.com at 195.93.21.132
Message:
As the headline rightly suggests they are Ex-ministers and i see no reason why they are still occupying these offices. Which means if any thing goes wrong after the expiration of their term in office they can't be held liable.At the moment they are not facing any charges or appearing before any commissions of enquiry. Asking them to seek permission before travelling is ludicrous.They are not serving the current president because they have not taken an oath to do so which is the requirement to hold such an office.I wonder who advised the president on this issue given that there are quite a few brilliant lawyers in the APC.I am informed there are ex- ministers who have already left the country.
The constitution is quite clear about this:
Section 58
58. (1) The office of a Minister or a Deputy Minister shall become vacant—
a. on the expiration of the term of office of the President; or
b. if his appointment is revoked by the President; or
c. if he resigns or retires from office or dies; or
d. if he is elected as Speaker or Deputy Speaker of Parliament; or
e. upon the assumption of any other person to the office of President.(Constitution of sierra leone act no 6 1991)
Subject: Re: APC Government Imposes Traveling Check on Ex-Minister
From: Observer
To: All
Date Posted: 07:43:52 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 41.205.26.250
Message:
The Ministers were appointed by Kabbah, hence it is imperative that they go with Kabbah.
Never in Salone, or anywhere in the world,a Minister hands over to another one.
Subject: Re: APC Government Imposes Traveling Check on Ex-Minister
From: Pa Javombo
To: All
Date Posted: 05:55:12 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 209.214.214.3
Message:
But our constituion also says that they serve at the pleasure of the president. It did not specify which president and the last time I checked Koroma was president of Sierra Leone. The end of Kabbah's govt does not necessarily mean the end of the individuals holding cabinst offices. The president has the right to retain or sack them. It is all constitutional.
Subject: KICK BACK
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 07:35:56 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
I heard that Foday Mansaray gave APC $100,000 and now he is lobbying to become the bank governor. I also heard that Alex Mansaray is also lobbying to become the Sierra Leone permanent representative to the U.N. If these rumors are true, can someone tell me the qualifications of these two men. We all should know that Sierra Leone is not a dumpster where to dump garbage.
Subject: Re: KICK BACK
From: FYI
To: All
Date Posted: 08:25:53 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-69-140-34-194.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.140.34.194
Message:
Please do not bring Alex Mansaray into this,I know Alex when I use to live in NYC,he is a decent,honorable and educated man who is working hard for his living.
Subject: Re: KICK BACK
From: jamboria
To: All
Date Posted: 08:33:23 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
So! Those out ther fighting for positions are not decent, educated and honorable....
Subject: Re: KICK BACK
From: Basco
To: All
Date Posted: 07:49:44 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-17-83.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.17.83
Message:
Lie dog!!! I thought we had called a truce with you slppers? You still come along with your lies and propaganda. Go sought out your party and right your wrongs.You guys are lucky EK has not imprisoned the lot of you for mass vote rigging in Kailahun.
Subject: Re: KICK BACK
From: Curious
To: All
Date Posted: 07:44:44 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 41.205.26.250
Message:
Where di Foday Mansaray get $100,000 from???
Subject: Re: KICK BACK
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:04:09 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
This is what surprised me. That is why I want to know. As for Basco or whatever your name is, I am not here for war. I am just trying to find out. I am not supporting any party in Sierra Leone. I am just concern about things that are happening in our country. So please dont call me lie dog. Trying to find out the truth is not a crime.
Subject: Re: KICK BACK
From: Basco
To: All
Date Posted: 08:16:16 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: 82-44-17-83.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk at 82.44.17.83
Message:
John K or what ever your name is, do you think for yourself? Where would the man get 100,000k usd from to give EK for a job? Stop manufacturing rumours. As for Alex who I know personally,has never asked to be the Permanent Rep to the UN! Just sit tight and await the Cabinet like everyone else.
Subject: Re: KICK BACK
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:20:23 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
Bacso, it is a rumor. I want to prove the rumor mongers wrong. It will help me to tell them that they are liars. I just want to know, okay.
Subject: Re: KICK BACK
From: JARRO
To: All
Date Posted: 08:06:23 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-75-66-114-24.hsd1.tn.comcast.net at 75.66.114.24
Message:
"This is what surprised"
It should not.. siince Basco is Foday..Intilli?
Subject: Re: KICK BACK
From: John K.
To: All
Date Posted: 08:15:24 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: ginamissah@hotmail.com
Entered From: pool-71-187-169-29.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net at 71.187.169.29
Message:
Good luck to Basco. However, I hope HE koroma will not be like another JS Momoh. He should know that the expectations of the people are high. He should appoint a cabinet that will perform. Can anyone tell us the qualifications of Foday and Alex Mansaray? I just want to know.
Subject: WHY ERNEST STILL NOT ANNOUNCE THE CABINET YET
From: Bossman Himself
To: All
Date Posted: 07:01:38 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 217.172.33.56
Message:
Ernest Koroma asked a certain sierra leoneans to be one of his ministers and she responded that since she was not an apc member, she will go and sleep on it and give him her response the next day. the next day, she did something that has caused ernest koroma sleepless night and brought a big discussion into sierra leone. insiders know who and what i am talking about. ask true insiders why the delay in the cabinet and they will tell you the true story. simple newspaper article has put an entire nation on hold as a president grapples with what to do next. ignore the cabinet list posted here. it is a fake. it contains some names that are/were correct but when prezzo comes from his state of dilemma, we will proceed with true or false names. this is true story. ask the real insider man.
Subject: Re: WHY ERNEST STILL NOT ANNOUNCE THE CABINET YET
From: panlamp
To: All
Date Posted: 07:25:25 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-76-21-206-92.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 76.21.206.92
Message:
You are out of touch just like this Cocorioko newspaper. All that you just said makes no sense but to the editor of Cocorioko because you guys are are misleading the world but any way that is what this newspaper is good for .
Readers, please don't listen to this guy. The real story is that there is a FEUD AT STATEHOUSE. The JCs from America want top level positions so they can wreck our nation to the brinks since that was promised to them by the President.
Subject: news of cabinet
From: peter anthony
To: All
Date Posted: 06:31:35 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: apmac18@hotmail.com
Entered From: zixvpm01.ahsys.org at 198.140.183.1
Message:
is it realy true that the honorable president indeed said he was going to form/announce his cabinet this past friday?, or was it another rumour b/cos of anxiety?
i hope the latter is true.
we want a president that stand by what he says, comitted to his words, that thinks, cross checks before he speaks or commit himself.
we do not want another lungi bridge,or another josephine talker,...or simply put it another JOKER.
and if it was due to anxiety (i hope so), please let us be very careful this time....cos this is serious business...we are talking of the lives, future of people and a nation as a whole.
as Emmerson put it, "we don tire wit da long speech wey de mek de pepul den feel for sleep"
Subject: Re: news of cabinet
From: panlamp
To: All
Date Posted: 07:12:36 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: c-76-21-206-92.hsd1.va.comcast.net at 76.21.206.92
Message:
Anthony,
your question that reads
"is it really true that the honorable president indeed said he was going to form/announce his cabinet this past friday?, should be answered best by the editor of this Cocorioko because Cocorioko is the only newspaper that is spreading that rumor so that tells you how out of touch they are.
My advice to you is if you think all that you read from this newspaper is true, I wish you good luck. I don't read cocorioko to get the latest. I come hear just to mislead people on this forum and am not the only one I must admit. We figured the editor is misleading the world so we are helping him to achieve just that. Why do you think he has nothing new to update his fools?
There is a big feud at state house over high level appointments. Either he knows that and does not want to report it or he does not know.
Stay tuned and I will bring you the latest.
Subject: Re: news of cabinet
From: Mark Anthony
To: All
Date Posted: 09:49:32 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host-24-225-160-74.patmedia.net at 24.225.160.74
Message:
Try reading other news paper online like standard times,awoko and soforth. Standard times wrotes we can authoritatively comfirmed that president President will have his cabonet by weekened.
One more time you come out like this ,I WILL recommend you thrown out of the forum.
Capichi Mr Anthony?. Va bene.
Subject: Re: news of cabinet
From: Whispers
To: All
Date Posted: 06:58:56 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 41.205.26.250
Message:
I am told that it will come up on Monday the 1st October.Actually there are too many string pullings going on, and everyone wants a slice of the cake, namely,
1.PMDC
2.Old APC stalwarts
3.APC parliamentarians, who have been elected in Parliament, as they did not know that APC will win the run off.
4.Friends of HE
5.Donors.
6.Jumping opportunists SLPP to APC
7.Serious APC workers
8.Temne cabal
9.Limba cabal
10.Joindalists
Subject: Re: news of cabinet
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 07:15:12 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.243.137.17
Message:
8.Temne cabal
9.Limba cabal
Do you have any evidence of the above? if yes provide it otherwise you're just another dangerous tribalist.
Subject: APC GOVERNMENT NAMES FIRST CABINET TODAY
From: Tamba Moiwo
To: All
Date Posted: 06:18:53 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: moiwo@hotmail.co.uk
Entered From: at 86.156.238.175
Message:
SUCH WAS REV KABS KANU'S SREAMING AUTHORITATIVE HEADLINE.A CONFIDENT AIR OF A MAN WHO HAS THE EAR OF THE PRESIDENT.
WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THE QUALITY OF THE APPOINTEES.MAYBE PREZZO HAS CHANGED HIS MIND OR REVO HAS TRIED TO SPIN HIMSELF OUT AS HE NORMALLY DOES.YOU STILL ABOPE PAN DAE INFO JAB???
The All People's Congress ( APC ) will today unveil its cabinet , according to sources close to the government yesterday. After all the waiting and anxiety ,Sierra Leoneans will have a glimpse of the government's plan for the country by the quality of the men and women named in cabinet.
Already, rumor-mongers have been bandying around some names of the prospective
Subject: Re: APC GOVERNMENT NAMES FIRST CABINET TODAY
From: FRUSTRATED TA,MBA MOIWA
To: All
Date Posted: 15:08:43 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: bontilaynga@gmail.com
Entered From: 203-167-156-13.dialup.clear.net.nz at 203.167.156.13
Message:
Mr. Tamba bo go lap with you awareness times frustration. Go and wait till 2012 if you are not already worn out.
Subject: Re: APC GOVERNMENT NAMES FIRST CABINET TODAY
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 06:33:28 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator6071.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.181.216
Message:
Man you don't have to come down so heavily on Revo.Sometimes it happens that the info is reliable but things change at the last minute.I myself got the same info.I don't think he has done anything wrong by informing site visitors or readers.What if the cabinet was named on the given date? Relax man.
Subject: Re: APC GOVERNMENT NAMES FIRST CABINET TODAY
From: Cocorioko
To: All
Date Posted: 08:11:49 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253
Message:
It is this uncircumcised Tamba Moiwo guy who just cannot stop bashing Cocorioko for causing SLPP's defeat. He will always attack the Rev under different names.Did not other newspapers announce the same ? Why pick on Cocorioko ?
Subject: Re: APC GOVERNMENT NAMES FIRST CABINET TODAY
From: KABS KANU
To: All
Date Posted: 15:36:07 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: h167-156-253.63.chubb.com at 167.156.63.253
Message:
This post was not made by COCORIOKO.Please stop using other people's names.We won't call Tamba Moiwo names.
Subject: Re: APC GOVERNMENT NAMES FIRST CABINET TODAY
From: Atortor
To: All
Date Posted: 11:51:58 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: cache-ntc-ad04.proxy.aol.com at 207.200.116.198
Message:
Do you mean that he is UNCLEAN, like a leper revo? He has an ATOR TOR. Boy help me I can take thios to the bank and gert cash money
Subject: UPDATE_NEW APC CABINET
From: Very reliable source__Inside Statehouse
To: All
Date Posted: 03:56:23 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: acbd27e1.ipt.aol.com at 172.189.39.225
Message:
I swear on the quran this is authentic!
Vice President- Charles Margai
Minister of Finance- Hassan Gbessay Kanu
Foreign Minister- Zainab Bangura
Education- Sorie Dumbuya
Lands Minister- Alpha Kanu
Mines Minister - Momoh Konteh
Tourism Minister- Oluniyi Robin-coker
Sports Minister- Philip Neville
Information Minister- Paul Kamara
Health Misister- Victor Foh
Agriculture Minister- Sama Mondeh
Resident Minister East- Sam Sumana
Resident Minister North- Osman Yasaneh
Resident Minister South- Hindolo Trye
Defence-Maada Bio
Attorney-General- Charles Margai
Energy and Power-Foday Mansaray
Transporation-Jimmy Kandeh
Communication- N/A
Internal affairs - JB Dauda
JC's from UK and US are very dissapointed. Some have demanded their cash back. One US guy(Name withheld) ic threatening to go to court for his $100,000 dollars he gave APC. He has refused Nassit and wants bank Governship or Finance Ministry. This guy only has a diploma in financial management.
Got to go...There is some serious fisticuffs going on now nextdoor to my statehouse 'office'....oH Salone
Subject: Re: UPDATE_NEW APC CABINET
From: marlin
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Date Posted: 20:02:14 09/30/07 ()
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What? Charles Margai is BOTH Vice President and Attorney General?
Subject: Re: UPDATE_NEW APC CABINET
From: KKW
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Date Posted: 09:17:04 09/30/07 ()
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No Minister of Works?
Subject: Re: UPDATE_NEW APC CABINET
From: APC analyst
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Date Posted: 05:47:41 09/30/07 ()
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Ofcourse JCs will have to go back, as you cannot come here, splash a few dollars overnight and become a Minster.Anyway, there are 3 categories of people, who feel they are qualified to be Ministers:
1.Some of 1992 Minister-because they are totally broke, and want to rehabilitate themselves.
2.Some die hard APC members, who staked their lives in 1992, 1196,1197,1998 and 2000.
3.JCs and some local opportunist, who were APC then SLPP, then UNPP then SLPP.When they saw the table turning in the run off, they jumped into APC bandwagon, with substantial financial contributions.
Subject: Re: UPDATE_NEW APC CABINET
From: Na Lie
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Date Posted: 05:38:46 09/30/07 ()
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I cannot believe that a JC taxi driver can contribute USD100,000, unless he is involved in drugs
Subject: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 03:01:51 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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Message:
At have been brought to my attention that some misguide and ill-mannered members of the APC are spreading the false information that I had left the SLPP and joined the APC.
I want the whole wide world to know that this statement is false and baseless.
I APLHA SAIDU BANGURA had never and will never join the APC till the day I enter my grave. I don't believe in the APC and all what it stands for.
For example:
(1) I do not believe in thuggery and violence(the only things the APC know). That was why immediately after the elections they resulted to thuggery and violence.
(2)I am a devout Muslim who will always follow the teachings of the Quran. The first verse of " Surat Fatiha", chapter 1 of the Quran says:
" OH GOD, I SEEK YOUR PROTECTION(REFUGEE) AGAINST SATAN( the enemy of mankind)".What sense will it make for me to ask to Almighty God to save me from Satan and then I decide to join Satan and his certified agents in the APC?
I have sent a letter to Mr.Enest Koroma for onward transmission to the entire membership of his party, instructing them to put in jail for the rest of my life, if at any point, I decide to join the APC. I will prefer to languish in a jail cell then become a member of the APC.
I was a member of the SLPP yesterday.
I am a member of the SLPP today.
I will be a proud member of the SLPP tomorrow and forever.
We in the SLPP feel very satisfied that we won the past elections, but it was stolen from us by the NEC and the international community.
But because we can not afford to destroy the peace we brought to Sierra Leone, we allowed the Satanic APC to rule.
I will continue to be in the SLPP till I die, because:
IT IS THE ONLY POLITICAL PARTY THAT CAN TAKE
SIERRA LEONE FORWARD.
THE SLPP IS ALSO THE ONLY PARTY THAT WILL SURELY
TAKE OUR COUNRTY OUT OF THE APC MESS.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Brima Kamara
To: All
Date Posted: 11:00:30 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: Brimakam@yahoo.com
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I wonder why people on this forum continue to reply to this madman called Alpha Saidu Bangura. I sincerely believe this guy is going mad. I believe this forum has more important things to discuss. We should be discussing salient issues that will move our nation forward not which party a dissapointed guy belongs to. This guy has never contributed a sensible thing to this forum. He is either insulting people or coming up with outlandish claims against people. Though he claims to be a devout muslim, yet he is always trying to pull others down. He sees nothing good in anybody that does not belong to his cabal. I therefore suggest that we` care less about him and continue the fruitful discussions that have been going on. We are at the crossroads of our destiny. That is what we should be concerned with. The guy can belong to whatever party he wants. That is his prerogative and we dont even want to know. If he likes he can join Hezbolla or Al-Qaeda. We care less
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Nyangatkeh
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Date Posted: 11:20:40 09/30/07 ()
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Well he was a Rebel before and who cares now what he wants to be.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: LIQCO
To: All
Date Posted: 08:41:42 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: liqco@yahoo.com
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Message:
Alpha Saidu Bangura sounds pretty better over the elections. I strongly believe that NEC and the international committee did an excellent job in preventing SLPP from wiping Sierra Leone off the face of the map with there greed and selfishness. As for you jumping ships, who cares as long as your in intentions are for the betterment of our people and not for selfish reasons.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Dombolo
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Date Posted: 07:27:37 09/30/07 ()
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Alpha you should accept that this is a new beginning and it's good to know that you are "as constant as the northern star". But my advise to you is to reflect on this little prayer below and realise that life must go on and Sierra leone will be a better place in the next five years.
"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference"
Ramadan Mubarak
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Sabanoh
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Date Posted: 06:34:55 09/30/07 ()
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Maybe your SLPP that has been in power all these years walk with their backs. Thats the only way you can say that SLPP is the only party that can take us forward. Kabba and his old croonies have pushed us back about 20 years. They ruined our country. Kabba allowed the rebels to invade and destroy Freetown for his own personal gain.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Abubakarr Siaffa
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Date Posted: 11:24:02 09/30/07 ()
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Saidu was one of those rebels that invaded freetown. Ask him about where he was in January 1999. We all know where he was. With the rebels pointing out people whose houses should get burned, women who should get raped and men who should be robbed and killed.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 12:44:07 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
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Abubakarr, When the rebels attacked Freetown I was in my uncle Sheiki Bangura's(Mrs. ZAINAB BANGURA'S HUSBAND)house at Old Railway Line. That whole period I did not leave his house for any reason what so ever.
When the peace keeping forces took over the control of Freetown, all those who were with the rebels were killed. I walked up and down the city of Freetown for another month before I came back to the USA. I also took part in a lot of radio programmes.
If you believe what the drugs addict ALIEU ISCANDARI(who was not in Freetown) said about me on this forum, it means you are are also useless and God will punish you for falsely accusing me for something I did not do. It will interest you to know that the same good for nothing Alieu, told me to my face in Atlanta that he will always defend me on that allegation, because he knows that I will never be part of a rebel gang.
I am not a member of the APC therefore, I will never be involved in acts of thuggery and violence.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Dr. Nahim
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Date Posted: 13:38:06 09/30/07 ()
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Saidu you must have stopped taking the medications that I had prescribed for you. If its not working we can take you off that and prescribe a stronger dose. The lighter dose was because I thought that your madness was mild and that it would pass over. now I do believe that you are sinking deep into madness. You either take the meds now or have your family send you to mange where ther is a man better than me in dealing with your type of craziness. His name is Pa sorie at Mange Bureh. Becareful you dont start eating your own sheet.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: POLITICAL
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Date Posted: 14:30:53 09/30/07 ()
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Ha ha ha. That's funny
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Alhaji Kai Sowa
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Date Posted: 13:20:20 09/30/07 ()
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Saidu If me nar bin you ar go stop for atack alieu iscandari en im family dem becos ee dae mek you look bad amongs you yone people dem. Man dem nar de mary land area geh you nar liba becos of dem you unwarranted attak dem pan da family dae. dem dun warn tae you nor dae lef. nor forget say da foll wae nor yerri shee e go yeri stone.
You don passmark me man. Da man dae nar im hep you for cam nar dis contry. you sef don tok to we about ow da man dae dun do you good nar da same man dae en im family you dae attak nar www. Bra you nar man wae nor geh blessing bra. You call alieu good for nothing? You know omos people dem da man dae dun hep including you? Bra lef nor mek Allah subuhana watahaila vex pan you dis fas mont. wen man dae keep fas nar for atone for im sins dem. you nor go dae keep fas den you dae insult people dem. wen you yone torn go cam ah hope say you go able bear of. meanwhile we dae nar de gron nar ya so dae wach you, if you stumble en mess wit de wrong porsin nar yar bra we dae tos you up yu go wish fini nor bin born you. lek wae all man kno say you mama geh light wase so eny man wae cam e way ee go pull dross for am.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Abu Bakarr Siaffa
To: All
Date Posted: 13:03:44 09/30/07 ()
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What does alieu Iscandari have to do with your being a rebel and my post. Saidu I know you and if I take this mask off you will really know who I am Just think Lal at Kissy Road. Alieu Iscandari does not have to tell me what I know and I know that you were not at Sheki Banguras home. I would like to call your attention to the Burning of some homes in Foulah Town and where you were then. You sabi but you nor know. Keep insulting Alieu Iscandari but that is not going to mask the truth that YOU RE A REBEL AND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANY PEOPLE LOSING THEIR LIVES AND PROPERTY DURING JANUARY 1999.YOU LIED WHEN YOU SAID THAT YOU TOOK PART IN MANY RADIO PROGRAMS BECAUSE DR SPENCER CAN CONFIRM THAT YOU DID NOT.
ALL OF YOUR EXPLANATIONS DONT MAKE SENSE. SHEKI BANGURA HAS DENIED THAT YOU WERE EVER AT HIS HOME AT THAT TIME.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Question
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Date Posted: 05:41:28 09/30/07 ()
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Assuming you are right.Why do you think, International Community turned hostile towards SLPP???
Dont tell me, they were bribed, but can you come up with one serious reason??
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 03:46:23 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: master-02.brg.sgsnet.se at 193.11.202.74
Message:
Thankx a lot.By having professed you are still what you were,you have saved the APC from the most fearsome stigma.By the way which planet are you living? I admire die-hard fools like you who see but still don't understand or don't want to understand at all.If with such a horrible performance you still believe that the SLPP is the only party that can take Salone forward may Allah have mercy on you.You are one of those we call DUMHETER in swedish.I believe you have left Salone for more than a decade and so have never felt what it is like to be ruled by a band of corrupt, tribalistic, nepotistic and insensitive criminals.You need to visit Salone and see things for yourself.
You sound like someone whose family member took slices of the corruption cake in the former SLPP regime.If you are worried then I am sure you will die of heart attack because all the corrupt elements of that SLPP bandwagon will face the consequences of their hobby.
Your allegations of thuggery and corruption hold no water because it was your party that was going round terrorising people so as to prevent them from voting for the APC.And on the post-election violence,it has been proven that it was orchestrated by SLPP elements to tarnish the image of the new regime.How can a party just come to power and start harrassing those who voted them into power? Think again!
I am also counter-quoting from the Quran:You are one of those the Quran has refered to as SUMUL BUKUM i.e. DEAF,DUMB AND BLIND THEY WILL NOT RETURN TO THE RIGHT PATH. The right path here presently is the APC,face it.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: SUMUL BUKUM aka Labiiii
To: All
Date Posted: 11:34:08 09/30/07 ()
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walahai, how would the little boy not get upset. his team lost and now all hopes of taking his greedy self to freetown and holding some slppers bag like he did for thaimu is lost. he had his day as a rebel attacking peoples houses, robbing people, killing people, raping women with his rebel friends. Now he has to work for a living. every job he goes to he gets fired becasue he steals from the job. now he works as a mall security and he is about to get fired.
He is always looking for jobs where other peoples monies will cross through his hands. He used to be financial secretary for old prince waleans and he spent the schools money and stole and embezzled it. If it was not for Pa Iscandari he would have been locked up by the school. Same thing his mother was busted trying to do at St Josephs secondary school old girls association. Tiff man family
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: SANTOS MANGA
To: All
Date Posted: 05:53:36 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: santos@aol.com
Entered From: at 86.156.235.37
Message:
Who do you think you are Bai Bureh? Who has given you the right to be rude to everyone who post on this forum. Particularly those who disagree with your type of cabal thinking. In fact I am becoming suspicious that this Bai Bureh fellow is an insider of Cocorioko. If not, then can someone tell the world why he is getting away with been rude to all and sundry including women?
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Bai Bureh
To: All
Date Posted: 06:27:37 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: rastafari_ish@hotmail.com
Entered From: dator6071.161.gbgsd.se at 62.88.181.216
Message:
So for you rudeness has a different definition.When Abdul made his insulting post,it was O.K but when Bai Bureh replies he is being rude,kool.I challenge you to point out how many people I have been rude to in this forum or who have ever complained of my rudeness.
The problem with some of you SLPP bigots and bootlickers is that you are never willing to face the truth.Just because I contributed to Abdul's sober thinking by giving him the kind of reply he deserves, you think I am rude.Man you have really disappointed me by such biased translation of my response.I thought you should have congratulated or praised me for controlling the behaviour of an SLPPer who still needs to come to grips with the present situation.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 06:43:52 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Bai Bureh,
You don't have to defend yourself on this issue as it evident that you possesses a unique sense of professionalism and good manners.
Only those who're blind cannot see it and who're deaf that hear it and the ignorant that couldn't understand your purpose.
Don't waiste your energy on him.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Chez Winakabs Europe
To: All
Date Posted: 05:35:32 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: host86-129-207-10.range86-129.btcentralplus.com at 86.129.207.10
Message:
bai Bureh, you are yet to start - let us see how you fair in the next 12 months. i will follow up and give my appraisals after 12 months.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
To: All
Date Posted: 03:16:26 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Last word - what he's up against from an important SLPP seed:
"I APLHA SAIDU BANGURA had never and will never join the APC until the day I enter my grave"
We'll you've made it plain where you're going on your last day and what you DON*T Belive, all the negativity and shi ..... but what do you believe?
Could you please spell out what you stand for?
Let's hear it, please
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 05:49:13 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Brothers, I would like to calmly ask you not to follow this man SAIDU. He's insane and has no sense of humour.
It is very clear from the beginning when this mortal began sending his posts on this forum that he stands for nothing rather than just seeking to gain attention.
SAIDU, you've made it clear that, you do not have your country at heart otherwise you wouldn't have mention that you'll support SLPP till you die, even if the SLPP seek to destroy our country as they've done in the past 11 years.
I'm not seeking your support for APC as it stands for freedom and we only encourage people who share this value to join the crusade.
SAIDU, you did not stand for anything so your open tirade on the APC is nothing more than lack of understanding and humour.
Well, for your baseless belief that SLPP won the last elections, I just want to say sorry but they were so stupid and incompetent to loose and thats their final episode in the our political history they'll be mummified in the wilderness of power forever.
Lastly if you don't know the Quran, don't meddle with it. Your quotation is completely wrong there is nothing like that mention in "Suratul Fathia".
I urge you to please ask those close to you who knows the Quran better than you.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Boy
To: All
Date Posted: 19:03:22 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Eddie Grant, you sound very much like my friend Eddie Bwee in UK. Your attack against Saidu is biased because of your political affiliation with the APC. you mention SLPP's corrupt 11 years which is true. How about the APC's corrupt 24 years which led the civil carnage? I know your strong affiliation with the former APC criminals, some of whom financed your immigration to Europe. But please be objective; since when did you become a muslim reading quran. Whatever happened your christian roots?
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 05:58:11 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.222.95
Message:
I'm really sorry, but you mistaken me for someone else.
I've never associated myself with any politician so before you go any further, I'm not the one you're refering to as been financed by APC criminals I paid my way to the UK and I've never being a christian.
Mainwhile, for your information, I did not attack Alpha Saidu but instead I raised my point. I have no problem with anyone affiliated with another party. For myself, I've never supported any party. This time I see fit to support APC because I saw the potential of good governance for our country.
I decided to respond to SAIDU's article because I thought he showed no form of interest for his country rather he only considered party above all other things.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 05:53:35 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.240.63.104
Message:
I'm really sorry, but you mistaken me for someone else.
I've never associated myself with any politician so before you go any further, I'm not the one you're refering to as been financed by APC criminals I paid my way to the UK and I've never being a christian.
Mainwhile, for your information, I did not attack Alpha Saidu but instead I raised my point. I have no problem with anyone affiliated with another party. For myself, I've never supported any party. This time I see fit to support APC because I saw the potential of good governance for our country.
I decided to respond to SAIDU's article because I thought he showed no form of interest for his country rather he only considered party above all other things.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 14:47:44 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gw1.dc.gov at 164.82.146.3
Message:
I have enough intelligence to believe you are the right guy. Now you are denying your Christian roots. I have evidence to prove that too. Any way your postings shows you are a die hard APC supporter..Where did you get that from? From Albert Academy? Please stop because as I said, I have a lot of intelligence on you. Since when did you join these APC thugs? I always knew you as a gentleman, but it seems you have been radicalized by those fanatic muslim jihadists. Be careful!
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 15:35:02 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 78.146.235.201
Message:
Keep dreaming about me but am sure its a mistake to perceive me to be that way.
Furthermore, I never attended any school in Freetown let alone Albert Academy.
Moreover, continue to search for your lost friend but I'm not the one. Anyway I insist that I've never being a Christian.
By the way, can you please define the defination of a jihadist? Thank you my friend.
Stay blessed.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 15:42:38 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: gw1.dc.gov at 164.82.146.3
Message:
How can I define a definition? Eddie, stop playing this game. I have intelligence on you; stop!
A jihadist is an islamic fundamentalist who believe in killing others for Islam, in hopes of being rewarded one dozen virgins in HELL. This is Mohammed, the prophet's theory; you might expect to meet him in hell if you are his follower
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 16:19:58 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
I wish you never go the way of religious descrimination.
By the way, a jihadist is nothing of what you described but someone who makes very strong effort to defend his beleif. You're a jihadist in some way as you are trying very hard to justify your position about knowing me when I have no recollection of knowing you.
Could you please throw some light in to your story of knowing me?
Finally, my advise is that don't try instigate religious backlash. this is nothing about religion ok my friend.
I love you stay blessed.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Koroma
To: All
Date Posted: 18:04:22 10/01/07 ()
Email Address:
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Message:
Eddie, all jokes aside, I know you are not an APC financed thug. Also, I don't believe you're a jihadist. I was just pulling your legs. I am an APC supporter my self but I don't hate SLPP the way you do? We only choose the better of two evils.
By the way how is my aunty E. doing on the Island. How is A., my sister, and my other brother? Trust me, I'll not disclose my self to you.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Grant
To: All
Date Posted: 06:22:48 10/02/07 ()
Email Address:
Entered From: at 89.243.221.47
Message:
Eddie K,
I don't hate SLPP I hate what they did to our country. In 1996, I gave my support to SLPP because at the time, I beleive Kabbah was a very honest leader. At the time we badly needed peace I thought Kabba was the right person to deliver it to our country as he has worked for the world's mentor of peace and development (UN).
By the way, is that Vicky? or who common man tell me who you are. I would like to meet friends that I've not seen for very long time. You deliberately shut me out.
Bo duya me man tell me whoda you be en whosai wu sabi.
Stay blessed.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 03:49:55 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
Entered From: c-69-143-242-205.hsd1.md.comcast.net at 69.143.242.205
Message:
Cornelius, I stand for peace and tranquility.
I stand for true democracy in which every
vote will be counted before a winner is
announced.
I stand for total respect for the
institution of marriage, so that people
will be faithful to each other.
I stand for a government that is made up
of people with clean and credible records.
I don't want to see a cabinet that will
have people who smoke weed, cheat
on their partners, drink alcohol and
transfer public funds into private accounts.
I stand for holding all state actors
responsible for their actions.
I stand for all the things that will benefit
Sierra Leone and its people, because
politics is about people, not about
me, myself and I.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Kendall Street Chief
To: All
Date Posted: 13:49:54 09/30/07 ()
Email Address:
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Saidu was your mother faithful to any man that she has ever had including your mother? Didnt she try to invade Pa Komehs home even when she knew that he was married and she tried to break his home.
Didnt you so called very own father deny you as his child ( e nor answer you belleh) bevcause your mama was sleeping around like a SLUT.
first take the speck out of your own eyes before you can see the speck in other peoples eyes. do you know how many diamba smokers were in your so called slpp government.
I tell you why no one trusts you it is because you tak too much. Remember when you told us that Pa Berewah had a diabetic sore ( you called it Penda) had heard that word in a long time. You said that it was becasue of his oozing sore that was why his children and handlers didnt want you to go to his hotel room. Remember how you told us in the same conversation that Pa Berewah smells like pee because he wears PAMPERS. Saidu you talk too much and anyone in the slpp that accepts you into their fold is in for a surprise when you start speaking bad about them.
Just three weeks ago right here in Virginia your conversation was about the Berewah children. You said so many bad things aboy=ut them to us that all we could do was just look at ourselves and try to distance our selves from you becase other people were gathering and you never learned the art of speaking quietly.
GO QUIETLY TO HELL ME FREN YOU ARE AN EYESORE AND ALTHOUGH GOD DOESNT MAKE ANY MISTAKKES WE SOMETIMES WONDER IF HE DID WHETHER YOU WOWULD COME CLOSE TO BEING HIS MISTAKE. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER IF FINI HAD ABORTED YOUR PREGNANCY AND THE WORLD WOULD HAVE BEEN SAVE OF ONE MORE IMBECILE.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: FSM Sesay
To: All
Date Posted: 19:25:17 09/30/07 ()
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Kendall nar whodat nar dis saidu borbor ya so me man. Una say im mama nem fini en me sef nar area man wae sabi wan me aunty wae nem fini im mama nem Mama isatu. Nar de same porson una dae talk bot? becos wae me lef sa lone for england back in 1972 dis borbor wae nem saidu bin small boy. Ar later get for yerri say e bin don join debul sef.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: ALPHA SAID BANGURA
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Date Posted: 19:21:04 09/30/07 ()
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KENDALL, OBVIOUSLY FROM YOUR PSOTING, YOUR MOTHER MUST HAVE BEING THE SEX OBJECT OF ALL THE VILLAGERS. YOU YOUR SELF ARE A PRODUCT OF SUCH COMMERCIAL SEX PERFORMED BY YOUR MOTHER. SO DON'T EVEN START TALKNG ABOUT ME
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Eddie Grant
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Date Posted: 06:08:38 10/01/07 ()
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I'm advicing both SAIDU and Kendall,
This is absolutely disgraceful for both of you, there's no need to be so irresponsible by using obscene language in a pulic forum like this.
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Yalla boy
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Date Posted: 11:45:31 09/30/07 ()
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stand for total respect for the
institution of marriage, so that people
will be faithful to each other.
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Do you really? You mother had a child with Pa Komeh while Pa Komeh was married. Do you stand against that?
Subject: Re: I WILL BE A MEMBER OF THE SLPP FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
From: Mammy Blessing
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Date Posted: 09:49:42 09/30/07 ()
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Wow! But are you sure nobody in the former SLPP govt, that you so strenuously supported, ever cheated on their spouses? Never engaged in Sugardaddyism?
Do you for once seriously believe that the SLPP administration was as anti-alcohol as you? I have a feeling that most of those ministers were dedicated elbow-benders. In fact if Pa Berewa had heard of your Talibanic opposition to rum during the elections, he would have bribed you (and you would hungrily have accepted that brime, I am afraid) to leave the SLPP.
It's good that you oppose the stealing of public funds by politicians. I only regret that you did not howl this opposition loudly and clearly enough as hundreds of millions of dollars in donor aid and corrupt mining contracts disappeared in your beloved SLPP administration. I would have taken you more seriously if you had protested when more than $300 million dollars was looted in Kanja Sesay's SLPP NACSA piggy bank. I hope your strong moral voice against corruption will not become suddenly weak and whispery when the auditing of government ministries and finances is completed and the rapacious thievery of Kabbah's govt is exposed. Your nobility exudes when you declared that you "stand for holding all state actors responsible for their actions."
Please don't let us down when some in your party are exposed as crooks. Corruption is corruption, whether it comes in green or red.
You said: "I stand for true democracy in which every
vote will be counted before a winner is
announced".
I will support that declaration if you say "every CLEAN vote will be counted..". If 100 people are registered to vote in an election and I stuffed the ballot box at your expense and win by say 150 votes, will you accept that preposterous result?
Oppose if you choose to Imam Saidu, but please go easy on the hypocrisy, especially in this holy month of Ramadan...
Subject: PLEASE,FORGIVE MY MISTAKE.
From: ALPHA SAIDU BANGURA
To: All
Date Posted: 03:12:36 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: SAIDUBANGSO@AOL.COM
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The first line in my posting should begin with the words ;It has been brought to my attention-----
I am sorry for the mistake. Mistakes are a manifestation of humanity. It pains me whenever people assoicate my good name with the satanic APC.
Subject: Re: PLEASE,FORGIVE MY MISTAKE.
From: bkabisco
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Date Posted: 06:05:34 09/30/07 ()
Email Address: bkabisco@hotmail.com
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Pa Saidu, this is your bro in Sacramento. I am curious about one thing, since you claim to believe in all these lofty moral positions, where have you been for the last ten years when the 'keystone cops' who make up the leadership of your party violated every tenet that you hold so dear. You seemed to have been totally oblivious of the gross perversion of governance demonstrated by your party. Because you chose to look the other way, the people decided to indict them and their cabal on charges of benign neglect punishable by a rude extrication from the seat of power. Maybe in the future you should not absolve them of culpability when they violate those sacred values that you passionately believe in. Hope to talk to you soon. Rammadan Mubarak
Subject: Re: PLEASE,FORGIVE MY MISTAKE.
From: Cornelius Hamelberg
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Date Posted: 03:35:22 09/30/07 ()
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Forgiven and you are free
Subject: Open letter to President Koroma
From: Sorie Sudan Sesay
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Date Posted: 01:48:31 09/30/07 ()
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By Sorie Sudan Sesay, Freetown.
As Sierra Leone enters a new political millennium, there is this talk about so-called ?moderate SLPP members’ being brought into the proposed new cabinet of the ruling All People’s Congress (APC) party expected to be announced shortly.
Some hold the view that people who played an active role in the former ruling Sierra Leone People’s Party (SLPP), should be encouraged into the new cabinet. That they they should be included in the current political dispensation in the spirit of a government of national inclusion. To me, this is mere rubbish contrary to the spirit of the concept of a regime change which is the essence of democracy and the ballot box.
Personally, I have no doubt that we have people - hard working people who were very committed towards the development and progress of the country while serving in their respective positions. But as far as I am concerned, this presumably does not warrant an established fact that we must have them as part of the new government when we are talking about a regime change.
Sierra Leone has come a long way and we have had the terrible and negative political impact of personalities being incorporated into past governments and in the end succeeding in injecting bad influences into that very government - the National Provisional Ruling Council (NPRC) is a typical example or have we quickly forgotten how former President Ahmad Tejan Kabbah and his annointed son Solomon Berewa, negatively influenced the running of the NPRC government from behind the scenes? The facts are there.
Incorporating members of the past SLPP could well be a recipe for a chaotic administration, a bad start for the ruling APC party. We cannot deny the fact that the SLPP has failed this nation beyond imagination, to say the least, and I think if there was any minister or other highly placed government functionary holding very sensitive and important positions worth their proverbial salt, that person should have resigned considering the destructive direction the SLPP was going.
Of course, we may have exceptional cases of individuals who may have had their hands tied behind their backs and therefore could do nothing other than dancing to the prevalent music and I’m sure the new President could figure them out.
In short, a new APC administration should be ready to take direct responsibilities both for its successes and (God forbid,) its failures.
Many people have contributed immensely towards the making of the current president and this was not borne out of ulterior motives, but because they believe in what he stands for and therefore will do everything possible to ensure that he is not misled and / or misdirected.
This brings me to the other sensitive issue of former Head of State Julius Maada Bio and former Secretary of State Tom Nyuma, in the defunct National Provisional Ruling Party (NPRC).
Obviously, nobody will convince me to believe that Maada Bio did not make that sweeping statement that he was going to stage a coup should an APC government be elected when the record is all there for all to hear at FM 98.1 Radio Democracy. Bio indeed made this statement and even repeated it when he emphasised it during a political rally for the SL